text reference question

Heather Dalal hdalal at RIDER.EDU
Tue Mar 19 10:21:41 EDT 2013


Thank you all for your feedback and your research on this topic.
I can proceed without worry with libraryh3lp.

Heather

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Heather Dalal, MLIS, MEd (Instructional Design)
Assistant Professor I-Librarian
Moore Library, Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648-3099
609-895-5731

On 3/18/2013 12:25 PM, Tiffany Tawzer wrote:
> Most of what I see online is from Mosio. The current regulations from 
> the CTIA, who they quote, are located here: 
> http://files.ctia.org/pdf/SMS_Interoperability_Guidelines_V3-2-AsAdopted.pdf
>
> I think the question hinges on whether this type of service is an A2P 
> (application-to-person) or not; the regulations don't prohibit 
> business messaging from a 10-digit P2P (person-to-person) number per 
> se, but seek to protect consumers from unsolicited and spammy content 
> and ensure an actual person is on the other end of the line. Since 
> this is, by its nature, a two way conversation, it seems to follow the 
> spirit of the regulation, IMHO.
>
> While there might be a kernel of truth to what they are saying, it 
> definitely sounds like Mosio is playing with scare tactics.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Sellers, Minna 
> <SELLERS_M at fortlewis.edu <mailto:SELLERS_M at fortlewis.edu>> wrote:
>
>     I'm sure if you brought this up with Pam at Libraryh3lp she would
>     be glad to respond. It would be good to hear a technical comment
>     to what the Mosio rep is saying.
>
>     Minna Sellers
>     Information Services Librarian
>     John F. Reed Library
>     Fort Lewis College
>     Durango CO 81301
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Web technologies in libraries
>     [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU <mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>]
>     On Behalf Of Nancy Falciani-White
>     Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:38 AM
>     To: WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU <mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
>     Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] text reference question
>
>     All I can say is that we used libraryh3lp and twilio for over a
>     year and had no issues. I've never heard of what the Mosio rep was
>     talking about.
>
>     --
>     Nancy Falciani-White
>     Assistant Professor
>     Buswell Memorial Library
>     Wheaton College
>     Wheaton, IL 60187
>     Office: (630) 752-5447 <tel:%28630%29%20752-5447>
>
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>     On 3/18/13 10:03 AM, "Heather Dalal" <hdalal at RIDER.EDU
>     <mailto:hdalal at RIDER.EDU>> wrote:
>
>     >I started this message as a reply to Reference via Chat, but now
>     I have
>     >a question about text.
>     >We've been trialing libraryh3lp for a while. They are really
>     >understanding and will extend free trials as long as you need to
>     trial.
>     >They understand how busy it can be working in an academic library.
>     >
>     >However, Mosio called me up and they tried to warn me that the
>     >libraryh3lp/twilio service is a hack and it's not the legit way to
>     >provide text reference.  He said carriers (AT&T, Verizon, etc) prefer
>     >the short numbers and a carrier could shut the number down if
>     they found
>     >out about it.   If a patron called up and said none of his texts were
>     >being received, we couldn't investigate and if we did, then
>     that's how
>     >we'd get caught. Sounds so fishy!   I wasn't sure if he was just
>     trying
>     >to scare me or not.  But I couldn't come up with the right terms to
>     >google this to find out if he's employing sales tactics or if this is
>     >something we should worry about.
>     >
>     >Anyone have thought on this?
>     >Thank you,
>     >
>     >Heather
>     >
>     >--
>     >
>     >
>     >Heather Dalal, MLIS, MEd (Instructional Design)
>     >Assistant Professor I-Librarian
>     >Moore Library, Rider University
>     >Lawrenceville, NJ 08648-3099
>     >609-895-5731 <tel:609-895-5731>
>     >
>     >On 3/7/2013 3:41 PM, Ferree, Curtis wrote:
>     >> We use Library H3lp for both text and IM.  I believe they use
>     Twillio
>     >>as their SMS client. We've been very happy with them.  We can
>     embed chat
>     >>windows on the home page and in our libguides and in our databases.
>     >>Students are able to text us via their mobile device, but we
>     answer it
>     >>from the IM chat window.
>     >>
>     >> http://libraryh3lp.com/
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --CF
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Curtis Ferree
>     >> Reference and Electronic Resources Librarian
>     >> DiMenna-Nyselius Library
>     >> Fairfield University
>     >> 1073 North Benson Road
>     >> Fairfield, CT 06824-5195
>     >> Tel: 203.254.4000 Ext. 2185 <tel:203.254.4000%20Ext.%202185>
>     >> Fax: 203.254.4133 <tel:203.254.4133>
>     >> cferree at mail.fairfield.edu
>     <mailto:cferree at mail.fairfield.edu><mailto:cferree at mail.fairfield.edu
>     <mailto:cferree at mail.fairfield.edu>>
>     >> AIM: cferree1
>     >>
>     >> From: Melanie Hogue
>     >><mhogue at CHESTATEELIBRARY.ORG
>     <mailto:mhogue at CHESTATEELIBRARY.ORG><mailto:mhogue at CHESTATEELIBRARY.ORG
>     <mailto:mhogue at CHESTATEELIBRARY.ORG>>>
>     >> Reply-To: Web technologies in libraries
>     >><WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>     <mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU><mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>     <mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>>>
>     >> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:53:38 -0500
>     >> To: <WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>     <mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU><mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>     <mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>>>
>     >> Subject: [WEB4LIB] Reference via chat?
>     >>
>     >> Pardon cross-posting  What solutions are your libraries currently
>     >>using for reference via texting/chat? I find all sorts of great
>     articles
>     >>about successes but very little about workflows or tech info
>     about how
>     >>these are set up.
>     >>
>     >> Specifically, we would like patrons to be able to text to a
>     chat window
>     >>from their phones (but not have to answer with a phone. Multiple
>     devices
>     >>seem inefficient and small keyboards are awkward. I looked into
>     Google;
>     >>but it seems patrons have to be registered members before they can
>     >>initiate (call us instead of us  them) via chat.
>     >>
>     >> Melanie A. Hogue, Systems Librarian
>     >> Chestatee Regional Library System
>     >> Dawsonville, Georgia
>     >> 706-344-3690 Ext. 20 <tel:706-344-3690%20Ext.%2020>
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