creating watermarks for photos

Roy Tennant roytennant at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jul 28 00:37:35 EDT 2013


Tom,
Thank you for both pointing out my error regarding Gallica and also
identifying the elegant way in which they navigated the shoals of
attribution. Kudos to Gallica for getting it right if attribution is
essential. I remain steadfast in my selection of options for my
personal work, but I'm perfectly fine with Gallica's choice as well.
The bottom line for me is still whether the image itself is
compromised -- if you do that, there should be a VERY good reason for
doing so. Again, a personal opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Roy

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Tom Cramer <tcramer at stanford.edu> wrote:
> Roy,
>
> Actually Gallica presents images with a kind of watermark--it's essentially
> a metadata subtitle that marks the source as gallica / BnF. Note that they
> don't alter the image itself--but dynamically generate an attribution line
> underneath the image that gets incorporated into their JPEG2000 / JPEG
> images (essentially adding pixels to the bottom).
>
> See http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b69267651.r=san+francisco.langEN
>
> I share your concern that libraries (nor museums nor archives) not degrade
> their resources as a means to monopolizing access to them--why put them on
> the web if you don't want people to view & use them? But I also know that we
> work with plenty of donors and partners who are not yet ready to embrace
> open and unencumbered access to their materials. I hope we'll get there. But
> until we do, personally I think the BnF's approach is an elegant compromise
> between preserving the integrity of the asset while tagging it with its
> provenance.
>
> - Tom
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:
>
> I'm a little surprised that so far no one is questioning the
> underlying motivation. If "watermarking" means what I think it means,
> then doing so basically ruins the photo for any reasonable use. Why
> would a public library wish to do this? I can remember discussions of
> watermarking in the 90s, but somehow I thought we were beyond that
> now. I guess not.
>
> Does the Library of Congress watermark their photos? No. Gallica? No
> again. In fact, who does except commercial companies like Corbis? I've
> put thousands of my images up for people to use sans watermark, and
> yet I still make some sales for commercial use. I ask that online use
> be credited, and many people have done that. Of course there will be a
> few bad actors, but there always will be no matter what you do. I'm
> having a hard time seeing the problem that is trying to be solved.
> Roy
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Young, Stephanie J. (CDC/OSELS/EAPO)
> (CTR) <wdq9 at cdc.gov> wrote:
>
> TechSmith's SnagIt is screen capturing software, but you can open images in
> their editor to add watermarks and tags. It's only $50 and very easy to use.
> http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.html
>
>
> Best,
>
> Steph
>
>
> Stephanie Young | Systems Librarian (LAC Group)
>
> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
>
> Public Health Library and Information Center
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Stephen ( Steve ) Sloan
>
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:10 PM
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> To: WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
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> Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] creating watermarks for photos
>
>
> Hello.
>
> One of the best technologies for photograph collections is Lightroom.
>
> It's an Adobe product that enables all sorts of enhancements to digital
> photographs and allows you to add metadata to items for later retrieval.
>
> Quite powerful, and easier to grasp than Photoshop.  An option is to add a
> watermark to all the images as you export them (usually in jpeg format).
>
> You can design the watermark yourself.
>
>
> It's around $200.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> Stephen Sloan
>
> Head Librarian
>
> Science and Forestry Library
>
> University of New Brunswick
>
> Fredericton, NB Canada
>
> (506) 453-4814
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> sloan at unb.ca
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>
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>
>
> On 13-07-18 3:29 PM, "Andy Boze" <Boze.1 at ND.EDU> wrote:
>
>
> If the idea is to create a visual watermark, IrfanView might be a good
>
> choice. It has a batch mode so you could watermark dozens of images at
>
> a time, as well as one at a time. It's free for home/educational use,
>
> very inexpensive otherwise.
>
>
> ???? 7/18/2013 1:50 PM, Andy Boze ??????:
>
> Are you looking to create a visual or digital (steganographic)
>
> watermark?
>
>
> ???? 7/18/2013 1:36 PM, Thomas Edelblute ??????:
>
> Our Local History curator is planning a project of posting
>
> additional historical  photos and we are finding that the photos
>
> currently available are ending up all  kinds of places. So she is
>
> asking what the best way is of creating a watermark  for the new
>
> photos that will be going up in the future to identify the source as
>
> coming from the City of Anaheim.
>
>
> Thomas Edelblute
>
>
> Public Access Systems Coordinator
>
>
> Anaheim Public Library
>
>
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