WEB4LIB Digest - 26 Apr 2014 to 28 Apr 2014 (#2014-95)

Tue Apr 29 11:40:51 EDT 2014

Jorge,

Have you checked some of the more lightweight CMS platforms like Kirby?

http://getkirby.com/

I like Kirby a lot. It's set up to use to a flat file system instead of a
database by default, but could be configured to talk to one. It's quite
flexible if you can write PHP (header and footer to define the basic HTML
structure).

Free to download, with a $39 license per site (on the honor system).

Jerry

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jerry M. Spiller, MSIS
Web Design and Interactive Media Faculty
Ai Charleston
yeri.spiller at gmail.com

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>   1. Simplest Wordpress alike framework or tool? (3)
>   2. Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue (2)
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> Date:    Sun, 27 Apr 2014 23:35:06 -0500
> From:    Jorge Biquez <jbiquez at ICSMX.COM>
> Subject: Simplest Wordpress alike framework or tool?
>
> Hello all.
>
> I was wondering if you could share your thoughts about the following.
>
> Let's assume The following.
>
> That we already have a site running using Wordpress. A nice template
> we get with some plug ins. Banner rotating, security, edit, seo,
> simple ones I guess. It worked fine but with the grow of the web page
> we are facing a problem since the ajax in the ads (used by the plug
> in), the too much javascript on the page with the plug ins and the
> one used by the theme and with more visitors the page is getting
> daily ,now the site consumes, according to the isp we use, LOT of
> resources , more than the resources allowed by the isp on the level
> of account we have as a shared service. So we have to move to another
> level of service and use VPS virtual service or the smallest of a
> dedicated one. With the stats we have of the site, we can confirm the
> use of resources and yes, it is not normal, the iste s not hacked ,
> everything works fine, just at times the overload is very big and
> that is creating the problem.
>
> I know there are options for hosting companies specialized on
> Wordpress and even Wordpress itself offers VIP services. We know
> those services exist and we are evaluating what we could afford it.
> We know that we can also do load balancing maybe with some tools, or
> even simple dns services.
>
> When talking about the consumption of resources with some of the
> collages we were talking about doing something strange maybe, and
> here is when I ask for your comments.
>
> Our needs:
>
> - Being able to update easily as with Wordpress, different levels of
> user, several users, restrict sections. All like Wordpress does.
>
> - Being able to have responsive web pages that detect movile devices
> or desktop and adjust to different resolutions (like our theme does
> it under Wordpress)
>
> that's all.
>
> (yes we know drupal, joomla, and others could do the job also but we
> believe that at the end we would be finishing with the same load on the
> server)
>
> So we were thinking that maybe could be possible to construct
> all  using a tool that give us as a result simple html pages, that
> emulates, the best it could , the look and feel of a  complex
> Wordpress site. Yes, we know that could be lot of static web pages.
> In fact using a tool for editing HTML we could emulate the look and
> feel now. Besides our page it won't change frequently on menus,
> sections, etc but it will grow in content.
>
> Do you know tools that we can explore that allows to do that? In a
> framework or package ,open source or commercial? that acts like
> wordpress BUT that constructs simple and fast web pages , like plain
> HTML and do not abuse of Javascript , Ajax, etc and does not consume
> too many resources? Even that works on a lan and not online could
> work even when that means to FTP the changes every time. Yes, it
> sounds stupid maybe but we can explore possibilities. Yes, not too
> fancy and elegant like wordpress but with the same results using
> static web pages?
>
> I know this could be solved with money , getting a cheap dedicated
> service for $150-350 USD per month. Or contracting shared service
> with a professional Wordpress service provider but issue is that this
> project will involve at the end several web sites of non profit
> institutions with very few financial resources. So if we can give
> them functionality like Wordpress in their old equipment and low
> bandwidth they could get it would be great. NO way to get extra
> resources , for now, since this is for institutions in Mexico and
> Central America.
>
> Any comments are welcomed maybe off-line if the subject is of not
> interest on the list.
>
> Thanks for the time and I am sorry for the long email.
>
> Jorge Biquez
>
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> Date:    Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:11:35 +0000
> From:    "Pruntel,Alison" <Alison.Pruntel at FAUQUIERCOUNTY.GOV>
> Subject: Re: Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
> See below...
>
> Alison Pruntel
> Electronic Resources Librarian
> Fauquier County Public Library
> 11 Winchester Street
> Warrenton, VA 20186
> 540-422-8515
> Like Us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/fauquierlibrary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Elaine Anderson [mailto:eanderson at PELHAMLIBRARY.ON.CA]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
> We have had a patron with the same problem but at some point
> Outlook/Hotmail allowed us to put in an alternate email address instead
> which he already had set up. A verification code was supposedly sent to one
> of those addresses. When it didn't come into his Gmail account, we sent
> another request to his Yahoo account. He got into Outlook with the access
> code. However, I think when he tried to log into Outlook again, he was
> asked for a cell number. I wasn't in front of the computer when he was
> trying this, so I'm not sure exactly what happened but he couldn't access
> his account.[Pruntel,Alison]  Hotmail/Outlook has just been a pain for
> quite some time (rebranding, etc.).
>
> Does Gmail require a cell phone number for all new
> accounts?[Pruntel,Alison]  They ask for it, and I assumed it was required,
> but I left blank and I was able to create an account this morning.
>
> If anyone has a solution, I'd be interested in hearing what people have
> done to work around the problem.[Pruntel,Alison]  We are creating a matrix
> of options for reference staff to have on hand. I will pass along when
> completed.
>
> Thanks,
> Elaine
>
> Elaine Anderson
> Public Services Coordinator
> Pelham Public Library
> 43 Pelham Town Square
> Box 830
> Fonthill, ON  L0S 1E0
> 905.892.6443
> http://www.pelhamlibrary.on.ca<http://www.pelhamlibrary.on.ca/>
> http://www.pelhamlibrary.blogspot.com<
> http://www.pelhamlibrary.blogspot.com/>
>
> From: Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Pruntel,Alison
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:46 AM
> To: WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
> Subject: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
> Hi all,
>
> How are you dealing with library patrons who are being required to enter a
> mobile number to receive text notifications (receive security code) for
> authenticating their email account? I thought there were still a few free
> webmail apps out there that didn't require a mobile phone/text option for a
> security code, but did not have luck helping elderly gentleman yesterday
> (his Hotmail/Outlook account now requires a mobile; he doesn't have one and
> using his land line did not work). When I tried to help him create a new
> account on Yahoo, Aol, etc., they now all ask for a cell phone number when
> you sign up. The only one that didn't was mail.com, but when we tried to
> create a new account for him on that service, it kept giving the message to
> try again later.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice/tips...
>
> Alison Pruntel
> Electronic Resources Librarian
> Fauquier County Public Library
> 11 Winchester Street
> Warrenton, VA 20186
> 540-422-8515
> Like Us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/fauquierlibrary
>
>
>
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> Date:    Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:12:35 +0000
> From:    "Pruntel,Alison" <Alison.Pruntel at FAUQUIERCOUNTY.GOV>
> Subject: Re: Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
>
>
> Alison Pruntel
> Electronic Resources Librarian
> Fauquier County Public Library
> 11 Winchester Street
> Warrenton, VA 20186
> 540-422-8515
> Like Us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/fauquierlibrary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Salazar, Christina [mailto:christina.salazar at CSUCI.EDU]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
> According to Google, the mobile phone info is "optional, but strongly
> recommended if you have a mobile phone" -
> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1733224?hl=en
>
> Are you saying it's not possible to have a Gmail account without the
> mobile phone?[Pruntel,Alison]  I thought this was the case when he went to
> create an account, as it asked for mobile along with name, etc. (none of
> the fields said required or not, all appeared to be required). This morning
> I tried and was able to just leave that blank and I could create an account.
>
>
> Christina Salazar
> Systems Librarian
> John Spoor Broome Library
> California State University, Channel Islands
> 805/437-3198
> [Description: Description: CI Formal Logo_1B grad_em signature]
>
>
>
> From: Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Elaine Anderson
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:59 AM
> To: WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
> Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
> We have had a patron with the same problem but at some point
> Outlook/Hotmail allowed us to put in an alternate email address instead
> which he already had set up. A verification code was supposedly sent to one
> of those addresses. When it didn't come into his Gmail account, we sent
> another request to his Yahoo account. He got into Outlook with the access
> code. However, I think when he tried to log into Outlook again, he was
> asked for a cell number. I wasn't in front of the computer when he was
> trying this, so I'm not sure exactly what happened but he couldn't access
> his account.
>
> Does Gmail require a cell phone number for all new accounts?
>
> If anyone has a solution, I'd be interested in hearing what people have
> done to work around the problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Elaine
>
> Elaine Anderson
> Public Services Coordinator
> Pelham Public Library
> 43 Pelham Town Square
> Box 830
> Fonthill, ON  L0S 1E0
> 905.892.6443
> http://www.pelhamlibrary.on.ca<http://www.pelhamlibrary.on.ca/>
> http://www.pelhamlibrary.blogspot.com<
> http://www.pelhamlibrary.blogspot.com/>
>
> From: Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> ]<mailto:[mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf Of Pruntel,Alison
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:46 AM
> To: WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
> Subject: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
>
> Hi all,
>
> How are you dealing with library patrons who are being required to enter a
> mobile number to receive text notifications (receive security code) for
> authenticating their email account? I thought there were still a few free
> webmail apps out there that didn't require a mobile phone/text option for a
> security code, but did not have luck helping elderly gentleman yesterday
> (his Hotmail/Outlook account now requires a mobile; he doesn't have one and
> using his land line did not work). When I tried to help him create a new
> account on Yahoo, Aol, etc., they now all ask for a cell phone number when
> you sign up. The only one that didn't was mail.com, but when we tried to
> create a new account for him on that service, it kept giving the message to
> try again later.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice/tips...
>
> Alison Pruntel
> Electronic Resources Librarian
> Fauquier County Public Library
> 11 Winchester Street
> Warrenton, VA 20186
> 540-422-8515
> Like Us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/fauquierlibrary
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:31:33 -0500
> From:    Jorge Biquez <jbiquez at ICSMX.COM>
> Subject: Re: Simplest Wordpress alike framework or tool?
>
> Hello.
>
> I will tried WP super Cache.
> Before posting we tried to tweak all on WP with no good results. Yes
> you are right the problem is the plug ins we use. In a "normal"
> environment and a dedicated server it will be nor problem. This test
> site was done  mainly to measure the load since it has to run on low
> end servers. Not so powerful ones, old equipment from donations. The
> idea is not to move to another CMS but to try to manage all on static
> pages, like he old times but trying to emulate , the best we could,
> the functionality of Wordpress on beimng able to update easily with
> different levels of users and have response web pages for movile
> devices. The latest is not a problem but will imply extra work.
>
> We will continue looking alternatives for a couple of days and then
> we decide the path to follow.
>
> Thanks for the time and help.
>
> Jorge Biquez
>
>
>
> At 02:27 4/28/2014, you wrote:
> >Hi Jorge,
> >
> >You probably tried these but have you looked into caching? Using
> >plugins like WP Super Cache might help as it creates static html for
> >your site .This might lower the load on the web and db server having
> >fewer requests.
> >Generally with the info you give, it seems that the load is mainly
> >caused by the design and tools used for it and I'm not sure moving
> >away to another cms will help greatly. I believe work should focus
> >on caching and lowering the load of the UI. Have you implemented
> >sprites, compression? Tried looking for lighter plugins to replace
> >some used now etc.?
> >
> >Hth
> >Tulie
> >
> >
> >Tulie Amichal | Library Computer Systems Coordinator
> >Phone: 03-6407063 | Fax: 03-6407840 |
> >Email: tulie at tauex.tau.ac.il | Skype: tulieami
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU]
> >On Behalf Of Jorge Biquez
> >Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:35 AM
> >To: WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
> >Subject: [WEB4LIB] Simplest Wordpress alike framework or tool?
> >Importance: High
> >
> >Hello all.
> >
> >I was wondering if you could share your thoughts about the following.
> >
> >Let's assume The following.
> >
> >That we already have a site running using Wordpress. A nice template
> >we get with some plug ins. Banner rotating, security, edit, seo,
> >simple ones I guess. It worked fine but with the grow of the web
> >page we are facing a problem since the ajax in the ads (used by the
> >plug in), the too much javascript on the page with the plug ins and
> >the one used by the theme and with more visitors the page is getting
> >daily ,now the site consumes, according to the isp we use, LOT of
> >resources , more than the resources allowed by the isp on the level
> >of account we have as a shared service. So we have to move to
> >another level of service and use VPS virtual service or the smallest
> >of a dedicated one. With the stats we have of the site, we can
> >confirm the use of resources and yes, it is not normal, the iste s
> >not hacked , everything works fine, just at times the overload is
> >very big and that is creating the problem.
> >
> >I know there are options for hosting companies specialized on
> >Wordpress and even Wordpress itself offers VIP services. We know
> >those services exist and we are evaluating what we could afford it.
> >We know that we can also do load balancing maybe with some tools, or
> >even simple dns services.
> >
> >When talking about the consumption of resources with some of the
> >collages we were talking about doing something strange maybe, and
> >here is when I ask for your comments.
> >
> >Our needs:
> >
> >- Being able to update easily as with Wordpress, different levels of
> >user, several users, restrict sections. All like Wordpress does.
> >
> >- Being able to have responsive web pages that detect movile devices
> >or desktop and adjust to different resolutions (like our theme does
> >it under Wordpress)
> >
> >that's all.
> >
> >(yes we know drupal, joomla, and others could do the job also but we
> >believe that at the end we would be finishing with the same load on the
> server)
> >
> >So we were thinking that maybe could be possible to construct
> >all  using a tool that give us as a result simple html pages, that
> >emulates, the best it could , the look and feel of a  complex
> >Wordpress site. Yes, we know that could be lot of static web pages.
> >In fact using a tool for editing HTML we could emulate the look and
> >feel now. Besides our page it won't change frequently on menus,
> >sections, etc but it will grow in content.
> >
> >Do you know tools that we can explore that allows to do that? In a
> >framework or package ,open source or commercial? that acts like
> >wordpress BUT that constructs simple and fast web pages , like plain
> >HTML and do not abuse of Javascript , Ajax, etc and does not consume
> >too many resources? Even that works on a lan and not online could
> >work even when that means to FTP the changes every time. Yes, it
> >sounds stupid maybe but we can explore possibilities. Yes, not too
> >fancy and elegant like wordpress but with the same results using
> >static web pages?
> >
> >I know this could be solved with money , getting a cheap dedicated
> >service for $150-350 USD per month. Or contracting shared service
> >with a professional Wordpress service provider but issue is that
> >this project will involve at the end several web sites of non profit
> >institutions with very few financial resources. So if we can give
> >them functionality like Wordpress in their old equipment and low
> >bandwidth they could get it would be great. NO way to get extra
> >resources , for now, since this is for institutions in Mexico and
> >Central America.
> >
> >Any comments are welcomed maybe off-line if the subject is of not
> >interest on the list.
> >
> >Thanks for the time and I am sorry for the long email.
> >
> >Jorge Biquez
> >
> >============================
> >
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>
> Date:    Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:01:09 -0700
> From:    Cary Gordon <listuser at CHILLCO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Simplest Wordpress alike framework or tool?
>
> Why don't you just get a server on AWS? A new "medium" instance should be
> plenty, and with a three-year commit, it should be under $25/Mo.
>
> You are likely going to run into this kind of issue with your current
> commodity host no matter what you do.
>
> The other alternative might be to go with a node.js-based static site
> generator. You can build this with Grunt.js or, if you want something
> already built and expandable, perhaps Harp <http://harpjs.com/> or Jeckll
> <http://jekyllrb.com/>.
>
> You might want to take a look at the self-proclaimed definitive list of
> 240 static site generators at <http://staticsitegenerators.net/>. If you
> want to learn a new language (or work in a familiar one) there is something
> for everyone there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cary
>
> On Apr 27, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Jorge Biquez <jbiquez at icsmx.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I was wondering if you could share your thoughts about the following.
> >
> > Let's assume The following.
> >
> > That we already have a site running using Wordpress. A nice template we
> get with some plug ins. Banner rotating, security, edit, seo, simple ones I
> guess. It worked fine but with the grow of the web page we are facing a
> problem since the ajax in the ads (used by the plug in), the too much
> javascript on the page with the plug ins and the one used by the theme and
> with more visitors the page is getting daily ,now the site consumes,
> according to the isp we use, LOT of resources , more than the resources
> allowed by the isp on the level of account we have as a shared service. So
> we have to move to another level of service and use VPS virtual service or
> the smallest of a dedicated one. With the stats we have of the site, we can
> confirm the use of resources and yes, it is not normal, the iste s not
> hacked , everything works fine, just at times the overload is very big and
> that is creating the problem.
> >
> > I know there are options for hosting companies specialized on Wordpress
> and even Wordpress itself offers VIP services. We know those services exist
> and we are evaluating what we could afford it. We know that we can also do
> load balancing maybe with some tools, or even simple dns services.
> >
> > When talking about the consumption of resources with some of the
> collages we were talking about doing something strange maybe, and here is
> when I ask for your comments.
> >
> > Our needs:
> >
> > - Being able to update easily as with Wordpress, different levels of
> user, several users, restrict sections. All like Wordpress does.
> >
> > - Being able to have responsive web pages that detect movile devices or
> desktop and adjust to different resolutions (like our theme does it under
> Wordpress)
> >
> > that's all.
> >
> > (yes we know drupal, joomla, and others could do the job also but we
> believe that at the end we would be finishing with the same load on the
> server)
> >
> > So we were thinking that maybe could be possible to construct all  using
> a tool that give us as a result simple html pages, that emulates, the best
> it could , the look and feel of a  complex Wordpress site. Yes, we know
> that could be lot of static web pages. In fact using a tool for editing
> HTML we could emulate the look and feel now. Besides our page it won't
> change frequently on menus, sections, etc but it will grow in content.
> >
> > Do you know tools that we can explore that allows to do that? In a
> framework or package ,open source or commercial? that acts like wordpress
> BUT that constructs simple and fast web pages , like plain HTML and do not
> abuse of Javascript , Ajax, etc and does not consume too many resources?
> Even that works on a lan and not online could work even when that means to
> FTP the changes every time. Yes, it sounds stupid maybe but we can explore
> possibilities. Yes, not too fancy and elegant like wordpress but with the
> same results using static web pages?
> >
> > I know this could be solved with money , getting a cheap dedicated
> service for $150-350 USD per month. Or contracting shared service with a
> professional Wordpress service provider but issue is that this project will
> involve at the end several web sites of non profit institutions with very
> few financial resources. So if we can give them functionality like
> Wordpress in their old equipment and low bandwidth they could get it would
> be great. NO way to get extra resources , for now, since this is for
> institutions in Mexico and Central America.
> >
> > Any comments are welcomed maybe off-line if the subject is of not
> interest on the list.
> >
> > Thanks for the time and I am sorry for the long email.
> >
> > Jorge Biquez
> >
> > ============================
> >
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