[lita-l] kaltura vs Vimeo

[Cary Gordon]

Understood, but what I really wanted to know is the actual basis of what
you are calling "true streaming".

Another question, directed to anyone who might have an answer would be:
Since Vimeo lets you choose your viewer (in the PRO version), and it does,
according to their claims, actually stream, would it be possible to use it
with a viewer that did not cache.

AFAIK. Vimeo is more for content creators, who using the PRO (their caps,
btw) version, want to sell their content. In the situation that we are
talking about, the content is presumably licensed from a third party, and
the delivery mechanism has to meet the requirements of that license.

I think that for one piece of content, using a service provider that meets
your licensing requirements is going to be the best fit. If you are going
to do thousands of these, you might consider AWS CloudFront and related
services, as it would permit you to configure the service you need.

Cary


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Jennifer Vinopal <vinopal at nyu.edu> wrote:

> Sure everything can be captured but there's a difference between actually
> downloading video to your workstation (which YouTube and Vimeo are doing
> when they buffer) and the ephemeral bits that flow when you have true
> streaming (like Real provides, or kaltura can provide). Nyu uses kaltura
> precisely because of this difference.
>
> --Jennifer
>
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and typos.
>
> On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Cary Gordon <listuser at chillco.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to here more about this. This is the first time I have seen a
> differentiation of "true streaming", and I haven't found anything else on
> the topic.
>
> It has always been my understanding that anything that shows up on a
> monitor can be captured, which is why fully DCMI protected things generally
> won't play on non-DCMI compliant monitors — monitors which typically use
> HDMI and preserve the encryption chain. Of course, these can be captured,
> as well. It is just a bit harder.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cary
>
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Jennifer Vinopal <vinopal at nyu.edu> wrote:
>
> Vimeo and YouTube are download services (the video caches on your hard
> drive. It's not true streaming). Thus Vimeo and youtube videos are quite
> easy to capture using services like Keepvid (*keepvid*.com/).  Kaltura,
> on the other hand, provides true streaming. So if security is a big concern
> you should go with a true streaming service.
>
> --Jennifer
>
> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse brevity and typos.
>
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Amy Jiang <ajiang at laverne.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
> Our library always got request from faculty to convert a DVD into a format
> on the web so that student can view in Blackboard.
>
>
> So we are looking into a hosted platform for us to stream video and embed
> into Blackboard.
>
>
> I looked at Vimeo, Limelight and Kaltura.
>
>
> It seems Kaltura is more enterprise level product. However because of the
> high cost, we are thinking of using Vimeo. I have a couple of questions to
> the listserv to see if anyone has used Vimeo before for your digital media.
>
> 1.       Does Vimeo work with blackboard? Can we embed vimeo video into
> Blackboard?
>
> 2.       Does Vimeo allow we do our own branding if we buy the enterprise
> level license?
>
> 3.       Does video secure? Since are going to convert copyrighted
> materials, the security is a top priority.
>
>
> I would love to hear any experience you have working with Vimeo or
> Kaltura. Or any other vendor you recommend. Thanks,
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Amy
>
>
>
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> Amy Jiang
>
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>
> Wilson Library, University of La Verne
>
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>
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Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com

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