SOBA: How are MOOCs Changing Science Education? > December 10 2012 > 4PM - 5:30 PM ET

[Norma Jean Hewlett]

I definitely think that if you want to understand what moocs are about, the
way to do it is to enroll in a few.

During the past year, I've taken 6 moocs in varying online formats. With
one exception, none of them required any outside reading or research. Most
only required watching lecture videos and perhaps completing some related
projects.

The one exception is GamesMooc, where the badge I want requires playing a
number of online games, learning to share information via several different
online formats, and reading or viewing a great deal of online material
related to using games in education.

All of the moocs I've taken so far have been on subjects related to
computer science, business, or education. One of my goals for the coming
year is to try one or two that are about traditional humanities subjects
such as literature or history. I'm thinking those will probably involve
more outside reading and possibly some original research.

Jean Hewlett
Librarian, Santa Rosa Campus
University of San Francisco


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Steven E. Patamia, Ph.D.
<patamia at gmail.com>wrote:

> Short and to the point answer to Alan's question -- admittedly biased by
> particular interests of my own in establishing virtual research library
> resources:
>
> To the extent that coursework encourages or requires library resources, in
> the MOOC environment that cannot be a fair expectation unless there exists
> well-stocked virtual research libraries appropriate to the course.
>  Otherwise, those with established handy access -- virtual or otherwise --
> to that kind of resource will have an almost insurmountable practical
> advantage as competitive students.  This is already a huge problem for
> researchers with poor access competing with researchers who have superb
> access.  The Web has many wonderful sources of general technical
> information, but publishers of journals and monographs have a stranglehold
> on those kinds of resources and a low level battle to release that
> stranglehold is ongoing.  Open access is a campaign entwined with the
> future of libraries as well.
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> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Cockerill, Alan <alan.cockerill at jcu.edu.au
> > wrote:
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>>  Hi Steven****
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>> Thanks for sharing your MOOC experience – I found it really valuable and
>> have been thinking about immersing myself in one for the same overarching
>> reason as you – to find out what it’s like.****
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>> I’d encourage anyone else on the list to share any firsthand experiences.
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>> *From:* Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steven E. Patamia, Ph.D.
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 December 2012 5:52 AM
>> *To:* WEB4LIB at LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: [WEB4LIB] SOBA: How are MOOCs Changing Science Education?
>> > December 10 2012 > 4PM - 5:30 PM ET****
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>> Hello,****
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>> I actually took that headline-making Stanford course on artificial
>> intelligence.  I did it partly for the content and mostly to see how it was
>> done.  It was a massive undertaking with some rough edges and there is much
>> to say about it both positive and negative.  ****
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>> What I wanted to jump in and say to this audience is that this kind of
>> education delivery is certainly not for everyone or every situation.  It is
>> a taste of things to come at this stage primarily as a proof of concept
>> demonstration.  I chose to participate in it at a time when I did knew I
>> would not genuinely and reliably have the time to fully immerse myself in
>> it.  I was nevertheless able to periodically devote enough time to get
>> perfect scores on many assignments and high, but not perfect, scores on
>> some of the exams.  It was, overall, like a giant take-home exam spread
>> over the whole term.  ****
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>> Among those with enough available time, there was an enormous amount of
>> collaboration. Collaboration is good, but not all participants had equal
>> opportunity to indulge.  While I did not directly participate in any
>> collaboraions, I peeked in on the two forums set up for it to see how it
>> was done and even went back a few time to see if anyone else had noticed
>> errors in the presentations, assignments or tests which I did (usually they
>> did).  It was clear to me, however, that those forums revealed the presence
>> of some students with lots of time on their hands and strong backgrounds.
>>  Those advantages were amplified by the availability of lots of people to
>> have discussions with provided one had the time to really do that, of
>> course.  My recollection at the moment is that the percentage of students
>> active in the collaborations was quite small ... maybe a few percent.
>> Perhaps Gerry knows or can find out.****
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>> Here is one of several possible punch lines:  ****
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>> I have been a graduate student and taught at the undergraduate level in a
>> university.  A student immersed in a full class load in a major university
>> is very unlikely to have the kind of time it takes to achieve a perfect
>> performance in this kind of course presentation.  Out of 160,000
>> participants there are bound to be some very intelligent people who are
>> also obsessive enough to achieve that goal and also have enough available
>> time to achieve it.  So what?  It is what it is, but the observation that
>> the top performers were not even enrolled at Stanford is not a measure of
>> anything useful or new in this case.  ****
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>> I now find myself with very little time again, but I could not pass up
>> contributing this particular observation.  I wish I had time to go over
>> more in detail as I think there are useful things to notice about all this.
>> ****
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>>  Cheers!****
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>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, McKiernan, Gerard [LIB] <
>> gerrymck at iastate.edu> wrote:****
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>> *** Spoiler Alert > Possible Duplicate Posting *******
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>> Colleagues/****
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>> Free Streamed Event ****
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>> /Gerry****
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>> Stanford professor Sebastian Thrun's Introduction to Artificial
>> Intelligence made headlines from the New York Times to the Huffington Post
>> for having 160,000 students sign up, but did you know that none of the 248
>> students getting a perfect grade were actually enrolled at Stanford?
>> Clearly, the role of the classroom in higher education is changing and
>> Massively Open Online Courses (MOOCs) are leading the way. How will
>> extending high-quality science education to more people change how research
>> is done? Will MOOCs less to more factual discussions of controversial
>> scientific topics like climate change and genetically modified organisms?
>> Will the "flipped classroom" enable schools to get the spiraling cost of
>> higher education under control and train more scientists? Join Relly
>> Brandman, Keith E. Grant, and Kristin Sainani  for a discussion of these
>> questions and more at this month's SOBA.****
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>> Presentations are followed by a panel discussion moderated by Christian
>> Simm, swissnex San Francisco's Executive Director. The audience Q&A will be
>> followed by a conversation at a nearby bar (to be announced at the event).
>> During the discussion portion of the evening, we’ll probe the challenges
>> and opportunities of MOOCs. Bring your questions!****
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>> *Presentations and discussion livestreamed. Follow the event on Twitter
>> (@sciobayarea and #sobay), and like SOBA on Facebook.****
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>> Date: December 10th, 2012****
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>> Time: 7:00pm - 8:30pm PT****
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>> Location: swissnex San Francisco, 730 Montgomery Street, San Francisco,
>> CA 94111****
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>> Source and Speaker Profiles and Registration and Streaming Links
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>> http://alternative-educate.blogspot.com/2012/12/soba-how-are-moocs-changing-science.html
>>  ****
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>> Gerry McKiernan****
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