[Web4lib] Re: Drupal Hosting

[Cary Gordon]

I don't think that anyone has a completely comprehensive view of the  
6-700 systems currently in production. The Web CMS Report from CMS  
Watch <http://www.cmswatch.com/CMS/Report/Vendors/> covers 42 systems,  
including Drupal (along with Vignette and Documentum), and I think  
that they do a good job of winnowing the field. I admit that I have  
never heard of the 10 (mostly european) mid-tier products they cover.  
If you can afford it -- $3,225 for the full version -- the report is a  
great product. I had a chance to peruse it and chat with the editor at  
the AIIM Conference in Boston earlier this month.

Our original LibrarySite product was a library-specific commercial  
content management system that we created in-house. After we started  
working with Drupal, we dropped our own product.

It is worth noting that in a few months Acquia will release a  
commercially supported version of Drupal, with a similar model to  
RedHat's commercially supported linux offerings. Acquila is a startup  
formed by Dries Buytaert, Drupal's creator, to serve the commercial  
market. My company will be an Acquia partner, although I expect that  
most of our library customers will continue to use the community  
version.

Cary Gordon, MLS
The Cherry Hill Company
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On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Blake Carver wrote:
> Good question, unfortunatly I've never looked at any commercial  
> alternatives.
>
> Maybe Cary Gordon over at The Cherry Hill Company has explored those  
> options?
>
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> Blake Carver
> LISHost.org
> Web Hosting For Librarians
> http://www.lishost.org
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Jorge Biquez <jbiquez at icsmx.com>  
> wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> Just curious.... and what would be your advise for alternatives to
>> CMS systems like Drupal but commercial ones? Do you recommend any of
>> them if they are not TOO expensive?
>>
>> Thanks for the advice.
>>
>> JB
>>
>>
>> At 05:24 a.m. 27/03/2008, Blake Carver wrote:
>>> David has some really good points, though assuming you're on a  
>>> decent
>>> server the load issues shouldn't come up most days. It takes quite a
>>> busy site (at least 50,000 pages, 200,000 hits a day) to really  
>>> make a
>>> noticeable difference on a mid sized server from what I've seen. So
>>> unless you have a really busy site I don't think you need to worry
>>> about too much traffic. There are of course a million other  
>>> variables
>>> to can cause troubles...
>>>
>>> Like the spammers. Drupal, Wordpress, etc. attract them like you
>>> wouldn't believe. Running things like mod_security on the server and
>>> all the plugins/modules available help quite a bit. At least you  
>>> won't
>>> see the comments show up, but I see huge load spikes beacause of  
>>> bots
>>> that attempt to leave thousands of comments all at once.
>>>
>>> --------------
>>> Blake Carver
>>> LISHost.org
>>> Web Hosting For Librarians
>>> http://www.lishost.org
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Cloutman, David
>>> <DCloutman at co.marin.ca.us> wrote:
>>>> Without knowing anything about your organization, and the amount of
>>>> traffic you get, I think it isn't really possible to give great  
>>>> advice
>>>> for you. You need to figure our what kind of hosting is  
>>>> appropriate for
>>>> you, as there are different options with different costs and  
>>>> benefits.
>>>>
>>>> The amount of traffic you'll get I think is a big consideration in
>>>> choosing a solution. If you're considering shared hosting, you  
>>>> should
>>>> think it through before making a committment. Running a CMS like  
>>>> Drupal
>>>> may create some scalability issues when you move your site from  
>>>> beta
>>>> testing to actual usage. In a shared environment, you are really  
>>>> at the
>>>> mercy of the hosting company, and you can only hope that they  
>>>> haven't
>>>> put you on a machine that isn't alreay over utilized. A CMS  
>>>> powered site
>>>> is going to require larger amounts of computing power than a flat  
>>>> HTML
>>>> site. So really, you need to make some guess as to both the  
>>>> amount of
>>>> traffic you'll be getting and the computing demands of the  
>>>> functionality
>>>> you'll be offering through your Drupal-based solution. Then you  
>>>> can make
>>>> an initial decision about whether you need dedicated hosting, or  
>>>> if a
>>>> shared solution a good fit.
>>>>
>>>> - David
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> David Cloutman <dcloutman at co.marin.ca.us>
>>>> Electronic Services Librarian
>>>> Marin County Free Library
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