[Web4lib] The Wikipedia Gotcha -- a cosmic perspective

[Micah Stevens]

I'd be willing to donate server space and setup the Wiki if anyone wants 
to try to organize this. I'd spend some time with submitting things too 
as I could manage.

-Micah

On 02/23/2007 12:18 PM, Binkley, Peter wrote:
> Within a wiki (in the librarians group at wikipedia or pbwiki or
> wherever), perhaps a format modelled on Talk Origins
> (http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html) would work: an index of
> claims (statements about wikipedia from librarians), each with its own
> page where the claim is articulated and sourced, and then responses are
> enumerated and sourced. The sources could be links to archived email
> messages or threads that capture a particular argument well. Links into
> Wikipedia's documentation would also be useful. 
>
> The difference would be that Talk Origins represents the efforts of one
> community to debunk the claims of another, whereas the Wikipedia wiki
> would represent a discussion within a single community which has not
> reached consensus. It would be possible to set up our site as a list of
> pro-Wikipedia claims with anti-Wikipedia responses or vice versa (and
> appear to favour one side over the other), or allow both with lots of
> interlinking of responses (and deal with a lot of redundancy).
>
> Of course, someone is going to have to do the work...
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org
> [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Marion
> Sumerianlibrarian
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:18 PM
> To: web4lib at webjunction.org; AWDobbs at ship.edu
> Subject: RE: [Web4lib] The Wikipedia Gotcha -- a cosmic perspective
>
> snip:
>
>   
>> Personally, the email-list format (using local filing rules) works 
>> fine for me.  I'll be interested in the resulting resource you create,
>>     
>
>   
>> as I can see possible benefits; but I think the ease of use of email 
>> lists will be a difficult "barrier" to surmount.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> -Aaron
>>     
>
> thanks for your reply.
>
> i'm very interested to know if you can you point to a single instance
> where an email format has carried the wikipedia discussion forward in
> either a productive or creative way?
>
> overall, i find the same issues are hashed, rehashed, and rehashed
> again, and again, over a long period of time on various listservs. 
>
> no, frankly, i don't see how email has helped to even define the issues,
> let alone advance them. i may be very wrong, but would like to see
> evidence of it.
>
> then again, the discussion around "how to discuss the wikipedia
> phenomenon -- and its various permutations.
> what would be the best format?" is yet another pertinent example of the
> dialog that needs to be addressed in a more organized, productive, and
> creative manner. 
>
> thanks again for your response, m
>
>
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