[Web4lib] Lack of discussion of Google CSE and Libraries

[David Rothman]

Hi Ross-

That's true, and Google's CSE makes the placing of the frame on one's page
easy.

How is this sunstantially different (from the user's perspective) from
having it hosted at your own page?

-David

On 11/9/06, Ross Singer <ross.singer at library.gatech.edu> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> In fact that's /not/ placed on your website, that's merely a search
> box that is.  LISZEN's search works the exact same way -- it's just
> being placed in an iframe in their page.
>
> The question then becomes, how do you build on this?  What's the point
> of this?  Is it so very much better than doing a regular Google
> search?
>
> Are your users even going to bother with coming to you since you're
> obviously just giving them Google results?
>
> -Ross.
>
> On 11/9/06, David Rothman <david.rothman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Carol-
> >
> > While I think they rank significantly below sliced bread, CSEs CAN be
> placed
> > on one's own web site.  Look at LISZEN.com as an example, or the one I
> > embedded in my blog at
> >
> http://davidrothman.net/consumer-health-and-patient-education-information-search-engine/
> > .
> >
> > LISZEN's results even display under the LISZEN banner, and this isn't
> hard
> > to set up.
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> > On 11/9/06, Carol Bean <beanworks at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm with Ross on this.  What you say is true, but only from within
> > > Google.  Is there a way to take this tool and put it on our library
> > > website, or do we have to set up our CSE's on Google, and go there
> > > (or send patrons there) to use the tool?
> > >
> > > Cool tool, but better than sliced bread?
> > >
> > > Carol Bean
> > >
> > > On Nov 9, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Drew, Bill wrote:
> > >
> > > > You are missing one major point.  It does not take a programmer to
> do
> > > > anything with it.  The Google API and other APIs really require
> > > > programming skills.  To me it is the biggest thing since sliced
> bread
> > > > because it goes back to one of our basic functions as librarians,
> > > > collection development and selection of resources.  I wish it did go
> > > > further in going into the Invisible Web that is buried in our
> > > > databases.
> > > > I t could potentially serve as our federated search engine if it
> did.
> > > > The front line librarian who knows how to do searches and
> understands
> > > > Boolean logic can use the CSE to create great tools for our
> users.  I
> > > > think that is meaningful and significant!
> > > >
> > > > Bill Drew
> > > > drewwe at morrisville.edu
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: rossfsinger at gmail.com [mailto:rossfsinger at gmail.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of
> > > > Ross Singer
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:46 AM
> > > > To: Drew, Bill
> > > > Cc: web4lib at webjunction.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Lack of discussion of Google CSE and
> Libraries
> > > >
> > > > Bill,
> > > >
> > > > The problem with Google CSE, as I see it, is that there doesn't seem
> > > > to be an API for it (is there and I'm missing it?).
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