[Web4lib] RE: Another Google question

[Amos Lakos]

I would advise all of you/us to take a deep breath and cool it.

Google is much more useful and simple that anything out there,
and it is the one software that delivers - almost always. I always FIND
something useful on Google when I ask, and I don't really care how they 
SEARCH.

Good enough for now - and from what I see, at least Google always
innovates.

Cheers for a nice weekend, Amos

--On Friday, July 15, 2005 7:52 AM -0700 Roy Tennant <roy.tennant at ucop.edu> 
wrote:

> So, in other words, the Google "link:" search is worse than useless.
> Useless because it fails to work as advertised and worse than useless
> because it will return just enough so one could imagine it was  working
> as they supposed (and as depicted by Google). Does anyone  else feel the
> wheels starting to come off the car? Roy
>
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 7:36 AM, Sloan, Bernie wrote:
>
>> I received an answer from Google regarding the question I had in the
>> following note. An excerpt:
>>
>> "Our link search does not return a comprehensive set of results. The
>> results will show a sample of the links that point to your page, but
>> this list is in no way indicative of the link structure utilized by
>> Google to formulate a page's PageRank."
>>
>> Bernie Sloan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sloan, Bernie
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:22 PM
>> To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>> Subject: Another Google question
>>
>> Here's another thing with Google that I don't get...
>>
>> Over the weekend I used the Page-Specific Search on the Advanced
>> Search
>> page to find pages that link to the page:
>> http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/~b-sloan/e-ref.html. I got five results.
>>
>> Then I did a Google search for the name of the document associated
>> with
>> that URL. I got quite a few results ("about 271"), but only went
>> through
>> the first 50. Twenty percent of those results (10 of 50) had live
>> links
>> imbedded in the corresponding documents matching the URL above.
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, none of these ten documents were included
>> in the five results from the "find pages that link to the page" search
>> off of the advanced search page.
>>
>> I'm probably missing something obvious, but why would a "link to"
>> search
>> come up with five documents, while the second search came up with ten
>> documents with the same URL as a live link, with little or no overlap
>> between the two result sets?
>>
>> Bernie Sloan
>> Senior Information Systems Consultant
>> Consortium of Academic & Research Libraries in Illinois
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>> Champaign, IL  61820-5752
>>
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>> E-mail: bernies at uillinois.edu
>>
>>
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Amos Lakos
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