[WEB4LIB] Re: Hard hyphen and HTML validation

[Scritchfield, Larry]

Stacy,

I thought I was replying to the list when I suggested style sheets.
Usually it's the other way 'round.

Here is a resource:
http://www.webreview.com/style/css1/charts/mastergrid.shtml

It says the nowrap property is supported by
NN 6, IE 5.5, Opera 4 & 5 on Windows, and NN 6 and IE 5 on Mac.
(One would assume higher versions of these browsers would
retain support.)

But not NN4, IE 3, 4 nor 5, nor Opera 3 on Windows, nor NN4, IE 3 & 4
on Mac.

No mention of Linux, Konqueror, K-Meleon etc :-)

Larry

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Stacy Pober [SMTP:stacy.pober at manhattan.edu]
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:05 PM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	[WEB4LIB] Re: Hard hyphen and HTML validation
> 
> I knew the character validates as &
> 
> However...
> 
> The problem is Internet Explorer feels it's proper to do a 'line 
> break' at a hyphen or & character if the line length works out
> just right.  
> 
> For example, if IE sees that the line length is up, it will break
> AFL-CIO
> into:
> AFL-
> CIO
> 
> I'm doing a simple text menu.  The menu has with short one or 
> two word links. One of the links is a relatively short hyphenated 
> word. I don't want the browser to break that one word onto two
> lines. I'm currently using the <nobr> html tag for this, and, while
> it causes validation errors, it works okay for all the browsers I've
> tried. 
> 
> I know there must be all kinds of interesting ways to do menus that
> would get around this, but I don't want to do fancy stuff for this
> particular 'horizontal menu' of links.  It's for a simple, 
> low-graphics site and I would prefer that it display with reasonable
> consistency in everything from v.3 browsers on up. 
> 
> I just want this one hyphenated word to stay on ONE line. 
> 
> Someone privately wrote to suggest using a style sheet for this: 
> 
> <span style="white-space:nowrap;">Haagen-Dazs</span>
> 
> I'm considering doing that, but I'm curious which browsers it 
> will NOT work in. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Stacy
> 
> Robert Sullivan wrote:
> > > OTOH, I probably shouldn't worry too much about those validation
> > > errors.  I have come to the realization that some of our pages
> > > will *always* produce coding errors because of ampersands or
> > > other unusual characters that are a part of some of our database
> > > URL's.
> > 
> > Actually, if you convert & to &amp; they validate properly.  (Thanks to
> > Web4Lib for informing me of this.)
> > 
> > Bob Sullivan
> > Schenectady County Public Library (NY)  <http://www.scpl.org>
> 
> -- 
> Stacy Pober
> Information Alchemist
> Manhattan College Libraries
> Riverdale, NY 10471
> http://www.manhattan.edu/library/