[WEB4LIB] Re: At the risk of being burnt... - college age

[GRAY, PAUL]

Ditto that -
While we are not a '4 year' institution and have no plans to become one.
We recently dropped the 'Junior' from our name due in no small part to that fact.

The days when our population was primarily high scholl graduates getting their basics out of the way before going on to a 'senior' college (if they ever existed) are long since gone.
So-called 'non-traditional' students - are now more the norm than the exception.

Paul H. Gray
Library Manager - LAN & CLC
Tarrant County College 
Northeast Campus
Hurst, TX


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Taylor [mailto:ptaylor at tln.lib.mi.us]
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:53 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: At the risk of being burnt...
> 
> 
> Watch what you say... 'College age' nowadays includes people 
> from 16 to 66, 
> and sometimes well beyond that!
> -Paul
> 
> 
> On Monday 05 August 2002 12:52 pm, Steve Garwood wrote:
> > to death by Flames :-)
> >
> > Flash, Java, Javascript, HTML, Animations, 8pt text....
> >
> > As long as we know our USERS and are meeting their needs 
> isn't that the
> > point?
> >
> > Granted we can't design all sites for all people, but I do 
> think that the
> > AUDIENCE focus is paramount. I.E. if I was designing a site 
> for College age
> > students, I'd want a different feel, look, etc. than a site for the
> > Elderly.
> >
> > IMHO, I think libraries as a whole can win the "Ugliest 
> sites ever created"
> > award as an "industry" and especially in this era of trying 
> to attract
> > younger audiences, perhaps including some of these 
> technologies (gratuitous
> > as they may seem to be) isn't such a bad idea.
> >
> > Flame Away :-)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Thomas Dowling [SMTP:tdowling at ohiolink.edu]
> > Sent:	Monday, August 05, 2002 12:26 PM
> > To:	Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject:	[WEB4LIB] Re: browser differences
> >
> > At 11:37 AM 8/5/2002, Steve Cramer wrote:
> > >The Journal of Electronic Publishing published an 
> interesting study of
> >
> > users'
> >
> > >perception of Flash-enable sites.
> > >
> > >http://www.press.umich.edu/jep/07-03/raney.html
> > >An Experimental Study: The Relationship Between Multimedia 
> Features and
> > >Information Retrieval
> >
> > This article was discussed in some detail back in April.  
> Comments that
> > stand out when I reread the thread:
> >
> > "The largest flaw that I see in the research is that the Flash and
> > HTML sites they chose for comparison were top of the line,
> > professionally produced commercial sites. The second gaping flaw was
> > no control for bandwidth limitations." - George Porter
> >
> > "As I read it, the study claims there is neither an advantage nor a
> > disadvantage to using Flash if you are measuring the ability to
> > retrieve information....So as I see it, the many other disadvantages
> > of Flash (proprietary standard, awful for document management,
> > bandwidth suck, inaccessible*) remain to advise one against its use
> > on serious sites." - Charles Gimon
> >
> > [*Flash MX is supposed to allow substantially accessible Flash
> > pages, so kudos to Macromedia in that regard.]
> >
> > "...HTML is not a good language choice for creating sites that look
> > like they were developed in Flash." - yrs trly
> >
> > I remain convinced that the great majority of pages using 
> Flash have no
> > good reason for doing so, and by supporting a reliance on 
> proprietary
> > software impede efforts to create similar open source 
> solutions.  All IMO,
> > of course.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thomas Dowling
> > OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network
> > tdowling at ohiolink.edu
> 
> -- 
> Paul Taylor
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