[Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
Morgan A. Brynnan
mbrynnan at gmail.com
Thu May 12 23:01:40 EDT 2011
IE 9 doesn't play well with Blackboard learning management system 9.x
either. I get a feeling that is not the only glitch we are going to have.
Thankfully, our IT folks are not upgrading *any* campus computers to IE 9
over the summer or upcoming fall.
Mary, I'm glad you posted this, it lets me know I may have to direct our
students to use the compatibility button when they are viewing in IE 9, or
downgrade their browser. I'll also recommend to our students that they hold
off on the next great browser until the bugs are worked out and it's proven
compatible with the resources they need and use.
Best,
Morgan Brynnan
Butte College
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1. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Leo Robert Klein)
2. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (jimm wetherbee)
3. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Popp, Mary Pagliero)
4. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Campbell, James (jmc))
5. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Thomas Dowling)
6. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Hoyte, Daniel)
7. Re: Web4lib Digest, Vol 74, Issue 9 (Sara Brownmiller)
8. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Bob Duncan)
9. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Comeaux, David)
10. custom form and web app development with wordpress (c)
11. Re: IE 9 and Firefox 4 (Leo Robert Klein)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:00:16 -0500
From: Leo Robert Klein <leo at leoklein.com>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
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Thompson runs according to its own rules. I don't think it works on
_any_ version of FF.
LEO
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On 5/11/2011 10:44 AM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> Why would you use a browser that does not work correctly with your
> target resources, or creates a potential support black hole?
>
> That said, I am surprised that the Thompson folks haven't made their
> databases IE9 compatible. Have you communicated with them about this?
>
> Cary
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:15:22 -0400
From: jimm wetherbee <jimm at wingate.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
Message-ID: <4DCAB61A.7050409 at wingate.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
We had seen the same sort of thing back with IE8. I forget which
textbook publishers this affected but what happened is that they took
advantage of certain IE7 features that ended up breaking in IE8 when
Microsoft began making its browser more standards compliant. OTOH,
these same publishers had trouble with FF and Safari.
--jimm
On 5/11/2011 11:44 AM, Cary Gordon wrote:
> Why would you use a browser that does not work correctly with your
> target resources, or creates a potential support black hole?
>
> That said, I am surprised that the Thompson folks haven't made their
> databases IE9 compatible. Have you communicated with them about this?
>
> Cary
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Popp, Mary Pagliero <popp at indiana.edu>
wrote:
>> Hi! We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and eventually
public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4.
Has anyone else done this?
>>
>> We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. In IE9, the user cannot see the search
results. But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon in the
address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results will
display.
>>
>> We are continuing to test databases. Has anyone found any other research
databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mary
>> _______________
>> Mary Pagliero Popp, Research & Discovery Services Librarian
>> Digital User Experience Department
>> Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
>> 1320 E. 10th Street
>> Bloomington, IN 47405
>> 812-855-8170 FAX: 812-856-2062 popp at indiana.edu
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:40:55 +0000
From: "Popp, Mary Pagliero" <popp at indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: Cary Gordon <listuser at chillco.com>
Cc: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
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HI! Even if we don't use the new browsers in the University and the
Libraries, our users ARE using the new browsers. We need to be prepared.
Thomson told us that the compatibility option in IE9 works (and it does) and
indicated that they will make their resources work with IE9 in 2012. These
databases work fine in Firefox 4.
Mary
_______________
Mary Pagliero Popp, Research & Discovery Services Librarian
Digital User Experience Department
Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
1320 E. 10th Street
Bloomington, IN 47405
812-855-8170 FAX: 812-856-2062 popp at indiana.edu
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From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listuser at chillco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:44 AM
To: Popp, Mary Pagliero
Cc: web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
Why would you use a browser that does not work correctly with your
target resources, or creates a potential support black hole?
That said, I am surprised that the Thompson folks haven't made their
databases IE9 compatible. Have you communicated with them about this?
Cary
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Popp, Mary Pagliero <popp at indiana.edu>
wrote:
> Hi! ?We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and eventually
public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4.
? Has anyone else done this?
>
> We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. ?In IE9, the user cannot see the search
results. ?But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon in the
address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results will
display.
>
> We are continuing to test databases. ?Has anyone found any other research
databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mary
> _______________
> Mary Pagliero Popp, Research & Discovery Services Librarian
> Digital User Experience Department
> Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
> 1320 E. 10th Street
> Bloomington, IN ?47405
> 812-855-8170 ? ?FAX: 812-856-2062 ? popp at indiana.edu
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:35:19 +0000
From: "Campbell, James (jmc)" <jmc at virginia.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
Message-ID:
<4B0528D64129674080F730A2EF012A79035A3A at WILSON.eservices.virginia.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mary,
We've seen problems with EbscoHost and Firefox 4 - clicking on some links
(most links) just doesn't work. When I reported this to EbscoHost, I was
told that it will be fixed in their next software update in July.
- Jim Campbell
Digital Access Librarian | Librarian for German
University of Virginia Library | Charlottesville, VA 22904-4112
513 Alderman | campbell at virginia.edu | 434-924-4985
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[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Popp, Mary Pagliero
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:48 AM
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
Hi! We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and eventually
public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4.
Has anyone else done this?
We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. In IE9, the user cannot see the search
results. But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon in the
address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results will
display.
We are continuing to test databases. Has anyone found any other research
databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
Thanks!
Mary
_______________
Mary Pagliero Popp, Research & Discovery Services Librarian
Digital User Experience Department
Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
1320 E. 10th Street
Bloomington, IN 47405
812-855-8170 FAX: 812-856-2062 popp at indiana.edu
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 13:51:33 -0400
From: Thomas Dowling <tdowling at ohiolink.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
Message-ID: <4DCACCA5.1060602 at ohiolink.edu>
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On 05/11/2011 12:40 PM, Popp, Mary Pagliero wrote:
>
> Thomson told us...that they will make their resources work with IE9 in
2012.
So..... right around the time IE10 is expected to come out? Genius.
--
Thomas Dowling
tdowling at ohiolink.edu
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:02:12 -0700
From: "Hoyte, Daniel" <hoyte at chapman.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: "Campbell, James \(jmc\)" <jmc at virginia.edu>,
<web4lib at webjunction.org>
Message-ID: <01781A56BA69ED479EF963E93C60EA4A36207E at ADAM.chapman.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I found a temporary fix for the tech adventurous. It requires using the
uacontrol extension and specifying the following user agent string for
the Ebscohost website:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8)
Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8
I have tested it with FF 4.0.1, and it works.
Daniel Hoyte M.R.S.
Senior Library Systems Technician
Leatherby Libraries, Chapman University
714-532-7745
Skype: daniel.hoyte
- Who knew a comma in the wrong place
- could make a floppy disk catch fire?
- Cary Gordon
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[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Campbell, James
(jmc)
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:35 AM
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
Mary,
We've seen problems with EbscoHost and Firefox 4 - clicking on some
links (most links) just doesn't work. When I reported this to EbscoHost,
I was told that it will be fixed in their next software update in July.
- Jim Campbell
Digital Access Librarian | Librarian for German
University of Virginia Library | Charlottesville, VA 22904-4112
513 Alderman | campbell at virginia.edu | 434-924-4985
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[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Popp, Mary
Pagliero
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:48 AM
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
Hi! We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and
eventually public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9
and Firefox 4. Has anyone else done this?
We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. In IE9, the user cannot see the
search results. But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon
in the address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results
will display.
We are continuing to test databases. Has anyone found any other
research databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
Thanks!
Mary
_______________
Mary Pagliero Popp, Research & Discovery Services Librarian
Digital User Experience Department
Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
1320 E. 10th Street
Bloomington, IN 47405
812-855-8170 FAX: 812-856-2062 popp at indiana.edu
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 12:16:03 -0700
From: Sara Brownmiller <snb at uoregon.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Web4lib Digest, Vol 74, Issue 9
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
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Mary,
This is curious. I have been using IE 9 for a while. I'm not having
any problems with Web of Science. I can search and display the results
as expected.
Sara
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:47:44 +0000
> From: "Popp, Mary Pagliero"<popp at indiana.edu>
> Subject: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
> To: "web4lib at webjunction.org"<web4lib at webjunction.org>
> Message-ID:
> <541EE672B5284B47AA5298C670D0F03F05005E51 at IU-MSSG-MBX107.ads.iu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi! We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and eventually
public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4.
Has anyone else done this?
>
> We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. In IE9, the user cannot see the search
results. But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon in the
address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results will
display.
>
> We are continuing to test databases. Has anyone found any other research
databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mary
> _______________
> Mary Pagliero Popp, Research& Discovery Services Librarian
> Digital User Experience Department
> Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
> 1320 E. 10th Street
> Bloomington, IN 47405
> 812-855-8170 FAX: 812-856-2062 popp at indiana.edu
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 08:44:24 -0700
> From: Cary Gordon<listuser at chillco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
> To: "Popp, Mary Pagliero"<popp at indiana.edu>
> Cc: "web4lib at webjunction.org"<web4lib at webjunction.org>
> Message-ID:<BANLkTiknpgiOUzo2K06A=AGynb_xw8D+Pg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Why would you use a browser that does not work correctly with your
> target resources, or creates a potential support black hole?
>
> That said, I am surprised that the Thompson folks haven't made their
> databases IE9 compatible. Have you communicated with them about this?
>
> Cary
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Popp, Mary Pagliero<popp at indiana.edu>
wrote:
>> Hi! ?We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and eventually
public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 4.
? Has anyone else done this?
>>
>> We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. ?In IE9, the user cannot see the search
results. ?But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon in the
address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results will
display.
>>
>> We are continuing to test databases. ?Has anyone found any other research
databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Mary
>> _______________
>> Mary Pagliero Popp, Research& Discovery Services Librarian
>> Digital User Experience Department
>> Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library W501
>> 1320 E. 10th Street
>> Bloomington, IN ?47405
>> 812-855-8170 ? ?FAX: 812-856-2062 ? popp at indiana.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:32:44 -0400
From: Bob Duncan <duncanr at lafayette.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
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At 03:16 PM 5/11/2011, Sara Brownmiller wrote:
>Mary,
>
>This is curious. I have been using IE 9 for a while. I'm not
>having any problems with Web of Science. I can search and display
>the results as expected.
WoS has always been a little finicky when proxies are involved,
especially if the proxy is III's WAM. In my experience when
troubleshooting WoS problems, the proxy involved (or not) is just as
important as the browser and/or browser version.
Bob Duncan
~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~
Robert E. Duncan
Systems Librarian
Lafayette College
Easton, PA 18042
duncanr at lafayette.edu
http://library.lafayette.edu/
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:44:05 -0500
From: "Comeaux, David" <dcomeaux at tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: <web4lib at webjunction.org>
Message-ID:
<E95C7ACB1529704999C97D5171573365040916AF at EX06.ad.tulane.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I find this troubling - I submitted a ticket to Thomson about this just
to be sure they're aware
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 08:44:24 -0700
From: Cary Gordon <listuser at chillco.com>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: "Popp, Mary Pagliero" <popp at indiana.edu>
Cc: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
Message-ID: <BANLkTiknpgiOUzo2K06A=AGynb_xw8D+Pg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Why would you use a browser that does not work correctly with your
target resources, or creates a potential support black hole?
That said, I am surprised that the Thompson folks haven't made their
databases IE9 compatible. Have you communicated with them about this?
Cary
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Popp, Mary Pagliero <popp at indiana.edu>
wrote:
> Hi! ?We are getting ready to change the browsers on staff (and
eventually public) workstations in our Libraries to Internet Explorer 9
and Firefox 4. ? Has anyone else done this?
>
> We did discover that the Thomson Reuters ISI databases (e.g., Web of
Science) do not work well with IE9. ?In IE9, the user cannot see the
search results. ?But, if the user clicks on the compatibility mode icon
in the address bar area to go to an older browser version, the results
will display.
>
> We are continuing to test databases. ?Has anyone found any other
research databases that don't work with either of these browsers?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mary
> _______________
> Mary Pagliero Popp, Research & Discovery Services Librarian Digital
> User Experience Department Indiana University Libraries, Wells Library
> W501
> 1320 E. 10th Street
> Bloomington, IN ?47405
> 812-855-8170 ? ?FAX: 812-856-2062 ? popp at indiana.edu
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
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> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:52:05 -0500
From: c <cbpurcell at gmail.com>
Subject: [Web4lib] custom form and web app development with wordpress
To: web4lib <web4lib at webjunction.org>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I have to develop several custom forms, some basic web apps and at least one
custom data type which tracks multiple pieces of information for each entry
for our new sites and I was wondering if there are any plugins or tools out
there that help with this sort of development with Wordpress. Or do people
pretty much universally just write them in php and interact with a custom
table in the WP db?
The forms will mostly be pretty basic requesting borrower proxies and things
like acquisitions request forms with 15 or so fields that I would need to
mail the submissions to our acquisitions department and to store all entries
in a table so I can run reports on requests later.
The basic web apps would be things like a leave request application for a
small group (25 or less). This would allow someone to submit a request for
time off with a begin date, end date, type of leave, number of days of
different types of leave and would automatically notify the supervisor of
the person who submitted the request. The supervisor would then need to be
able to approve or disapprove the leave request. If leave requests are
approved then it would need to generate an email to another person and for
the pie in the sky moment, if it could create entries on an outlook web
calendar, I would be filled with joy.
I also need to create a database of library databases (online access to full
text and other journals and resources). I need to track the db name, url,
brief description, long description, what searching methods use that
resource, related subject categories, tutorial links and the like. I need to
be able to allow a user to search for a given database and update its
information or add new entries. I will generate alphabetical and subject
listings based off of the content of the table.
So am I pretty much looking at fun with mysql, php, my favorite editor and
some custom templates for pages on sites, or are there any tools out there
that take some of the drudge work out of the experience?
Thanks,
Purcell
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:10:24 -0500
From: Leo Robert Klein <leo at leoklein.com>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] IE 9 and Firefox 4
To: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
Message-ID: <4DCAFB40.5020201 at leoklein.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Sorry, Thomson ONE Banker is what I was talking about and it's quite a
basket case.
LEO
On 5/11/2011 11:40 AM, Popp, Mary Pagliero wrote:
> Thomson told us that the compatibility option in IE9 works (and it does)
and indicated that they will make their resources work with IE9 in 2012.
These databases work fine in Firefox 4.
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