[Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
Robert Talbert
rtalbert at email.arizona.edu
Tue Apr 13 13:51:08 EDT 2010
You could do this with one Userful.com computer. We have an 8 headed
setup here which works great.
Robert E Talbert
Masters of Information Resources and Library Science (MLS) Candidate
Webmaster and Listserv Manager for the Library Students Organization (LSO)
President, Webmaster, & Listserv Manager for the Special Library
Association (SLA)
University of Arizona, Tucson
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> 2. Re: Thin client computer lab (Thomas Edelblute)
> 3. Re: Thin client computer lab (Thomas Edelblute)
> 4. Re: Anyone Using Google Wave? (Kimberly Silk)
> 5. Re: Thin client computer lab (John Lambertson)
> 6. Re: Thin client computer lab (Cab Vinton)
> 7. Re: Anyone Using Google Wave? (Norma Jean Hewlett)
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Regina Beach <regina_lee_beach at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Web4lib] Public Service Librarian (Atlanta, Ga)
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> Job Summary/Basic Function:? The
> Public Services Librarian is responsible
> for the delivery and supervision of reference and circulation services.
> Works
> with other librarians to develop and deliver library bibliographic
> instruction.
> Shares in reference desk duties; participates in collection development;
> and
> provides research support to faculty and staff. This position is
> responsible
> for maintaining and updating the GPC Decatur Library website.
>
> ?
>
> Required Experience:? Three
> (3) years public services/reference
> experience required; successful supervisory experience with a commitment
> to
> mentoring, training and staff development. Academic library experience
> preferred; demonstrated experience with collection development and
> bibliographic instruction required. A combination of education,
> training, and
> experience may be considered.
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> ?
>
> Required Education:? Master's
> degree in Library Science from an
> accredited ALA institution required.
>
> ?
>
> Preferred Qualifications:? Must
> have a working knowledge of electronic
> resources, informational resources and online library systems (the
> library
> currently uses Endeavor); knowledge of GALILEO is desirable. The
> successful
> candidate will have a good working knowledge of current library trends
> and
> innovations. Must possess excellent interpersonal and communication
> (written and
> verbal) skills. A working knowledge of FrontPage is preferred.
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> ?
>
> Physical Requirements: ? Position
> requires local travel. Ability to lift and carry files and
> materials. Ability to move from one office to another office on campus.
> Adequate vision, hearing and manual dexterity to interact with people in
> person, on the phone and in writing. Job takes place in normal
> environmental
> conditions.
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> Check
> required.
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> Work Hours:? Position
> may require non-standard work hours (nights and weekends).
>
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> Salary:? ($36,652-$45,815)
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> and experience with excellent benefits.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:46:53 -0700
> From: Thomas Edelblute <TEdelblute at anaheim.net>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
> To: 'John Lambertson' <JLambertson at ald.lib.co.us>,
> "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
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> I do not recommend netbooks or notebooks for public use. In our locations, the teenagers find it great sport in prying off the keyboard keys with a pencil.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of John Lambertson
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:54 AM
> To: web4lib at webjunction.org
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
>
> I would recommend against thin clients for a situation like yours.
>
> For the cost of thin clients + monitors, you could easily afford low-end
> notebooks or high-end netbooks with Windows. You can then choose to install
> Linux or not, or dual-boot for more learning options.
>
> You would have wireless built in, so you could explore networking as a
> learning option, without the need for a dedicated server.
>
> Depending on the models you pick, you would likely have built-in cameras, so
> video taking/editing would be open to you at no additional cost.
>
> If one computer goes down, you still have many computers. If one server
> goes down, all of your thin clients are down.
>
> Lending the computers would be an option, even if you don't want to go that
> way to start.
>
> Search and browse slickdeals.net for a few weeks, and you will see many
> deals on inexpensive hardware. For example, this one was linked yesterday:
>
> http://sellout.woot.com/?ts=1270979906&sig=512f37c2f5cfe136
>
> 11.6" netbook with a lot of extras for $270.
>
> I think you would really limit your teaching/learning choices with a
> thin-client solution.
>
> Full disclosure: I am not affiliated with any of the sites I list above, but
> I have found good deals through slickdeals.net and I have purchased from
> woot.com.
>
> John Lambertson
> III/Website Systems Administrator
> Arapahoe Library District
> webmaster at ald.lib.co.us
> 303.792.8948
> arapahoelibraries.org
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:49:23 -0700
> From: Thomas Edelblute <TEdelblute at anaheim.net>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
> To: 'leblanc.lee' <leblanc.lee at gmail.com>, Cab Vinton
> <bibliwho at gmail.com>
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> Just a funny note on thin clients. When we first implemented them some years ago, one of them was stolen the first day, but it mysteriously reappeared a week later.
>
> Tom
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of leblanc.lee
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 2:25 PM
> To: Cab Vinton
> Cc: web4lib at webjunction.org
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
>
> Not sure if these will fall within your budget but we've deployed them
> successfully in quite a few situations.
> http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/4AA0-1346ENW.pdf
> <http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/4AA0-1346ENW.pdf>
>
> Objective:
> Replace trouble-prone online public access catalog
> (OPAC) workstations in the university library
> Approach:
> Florida Gulf Coast University chose HP Compaq
> t5730 Thin Clients, which are solid-state devices
> that run on less power than traditional
> workstations and produce less heat
> IT improvements:
> * Less maintenance required
> * Elimination of hardware failures due to
> excessive heat
> * Improved security with reversion to pristine
> software image each night
> Business benefits:
> * Lower cost-roughly one-third the cost of
> previous OPAC workstations
> * Expected lifecycle of six to seven years versus
> less than five years with traditional workstations
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Cab Vinton <bibliwho at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A donor in town is interested in funding a small computer lab for our
>> small public library.
>>
>> Funds will be limited, both initially & down the road, so I'm
>> considering going the thin client route.
>>
>> Thoughts on thin clients as a solution?
>>
>> Rough cost estimate to set up an 8-10 client lab?
>>
>> Experiences with Pano Logic, MiniFrame, NComputing, Userful, or other
>> vendors?
>>
>> The clients would be used mainly for classes (internet skills, MS office,
>> etc.).
>>
>> Grateful for any advice!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Cab Vinton, Director
>> Sanbornton Public Library
>> Sanbornton, NH
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:05:42 -0400
> From: Kimberly Silk <kimberly.silk at Rotman.Utoronto.Ca>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Anyone Using Google Wave?
> To: "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
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> Hi Christine,
>
> I've played with Google wave, but find it frustrating to use, and I'm not quite sure how to apply it to my daily work, yet.
>
> I think that the delegates at Computers in Libraries are using Wave this week - check the #CIL2010 tag on Twitter to see if there's anything happening there. If you want to connect with the person organizing using Wave at CIL, let me know, and I'll make the virtual introduction.
>
> Kim
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Christine Peterson
> Sent: April 11, 2010 3:13 PM
> To: web4lib at webjunction.org
> Subject: [Web4lib] Anyone Using Google Wave?
>
> I'll be doing a short presentation on Google Wave this week and wanted
> to find out if anyone has started using it - either professionally or
> personally. I'm having a hard time finding real implementations (or
> even libraries that are testing for possible implementation).
>
>
>
> If you're using it - or know someone who is - please let me know.
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> Christine Peterson
>
> Continuing Education Librarian, Technology
>
> Amigos Library Services, Inc.
>
> 14400 Midway Road
>
> Dallas, TX 75244-3509
>
> 800-843-8482 x2891 * 972-991-6061 (fax)
>
> www.amigos.org <http://www.amigos.org/> * peterson at amigos.org
> <mailto:peterson at amigos.org>
>
>
>
> Assess>>Act>>Advance, the Amigos 2010 Annual Member Conference - online
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> May 5 and 6, 2010 http://conference.amigos.org/
> <http://conference.amigos.org/>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:22:54 -0600
> From: John Lambertson <JLambertson at ald.lib.co.us>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
> To: Thomas Edelblute <TEdelblute at anaheim.net>,
> "web4lib at webjunction.org" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
> Message-ID: <C7E8C11E.8E4A%JLambertson at ald.lib.co.us>
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> We seem to be very lucky in that respect - we had a couple of thefts of
> laptops available in our public areas before our locking mechanisms were
> adjusted correctly, but have had no vandalism to speak of. We have never
> had a problem in our training rooms.
>
> In this case, it sounds like it will be a monitored computer lab, so the
> risk of anonymous vandalism should be minimal.
>
> John
>
>
>> From: Thomas Edelblute <TEdelblute at anaheim.net>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:46:53 -0700
>> To: John Lambertson <jlambertson at ald.lib.co.us>, "web4lib at webjunction.org"
>> <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>> Subject: RE: Thin client computer lab
>>
>> I do not recommend netbooks or notebooks for public use. In our locations,
>> the teenagers find it great sport in prying off the keyboard keys with a
>> pencil.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org]
>> On Behalf Of John Lambertson
>> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:54 AM
>> To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
>>
>> I would recommend against thin clients for a situation like yours.
>>
>> For the cost of thin clients + monitors, you could easily afford low-end
>> notebooks or high-end netbooks with Windows. You can then choose to install
>> Linux or not, or dual-boot for more learning options.
>>
>> You would have wireless built in, so you could explore networking as a
>> learning option, without the need for a dedicated server.
>>
>> Depending on the models you pick, you would likely have built-in cameras, so
>> video taking/editing would be open to you at no additional cost.
>>
>> If one computer goes down, you still have many computers. If one server
>> goes down, all of your thin clients are down.
>>
>> Lending the computers would be an option, even if you don't want to go that
>> way to start.
>>
>> Search and browse slickdeals.net for a few weeks, and you will see many
>> deals on inexpensive hardware. For example, this one was linked yesterday:
>>
>> http://sellout.woot.com/?ts=1270979906&sig=512f37c2f5cfe136
>>
>> 11.6" netbook with a lot of extras for $270.
>>
>> I think you would really limit your teaching/learning choices with a
>> thin-client solution.
>>
>> Full disclosure: I am not affiliated with any of the sites I list above, but
>> I have found good deals through slickdeals.net and I have purchased from
>> woot.com.
>>
>> John Lambertson
>> III/Website Systems Administrator
>> Arapahoe Library District
>> webmaster at ald.lib.co.us
>> 303.792.8948
>> arapahoelibraries.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:12:46 -0400
> From: Cab Vinton <bibliwho at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin client computer lab
> To: web4lib at webjunction.org
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> Thanks to all for your various responses.
>
> Userful would require additional ongoing yearly costs of $60 per seat,
> plus $240 for the Userful Desktop. So, not particularly attractive to
> us.
>
> The lab would in fact be mostly unattended, so security concerns would
> certainly be a factor.
>
> Also, since we would plan on doing significant outreach to seniors for
> classes, netbooks & laptops would not be our first choice. Large
> screens & full-size keyboards would meet their needs much better.
>
> Have not made any decisions yet ...
>
> Cab Vinton, Director
> Sanbornton Public Library
> Sanbornton, NH
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:22:31 -0700
> From: Norma Jean Hewlett <hewlett at usfca.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Anyone Using Google Wave?
> To: Christine Peterson <peterson at amigos.org>, web4lib at webjunction.org
> Message-ID:
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> I suggested it to my workgroup (9 people in 5 geographically separated
> locations) but nobody wanted to try it.
>
> I also tried it with several groups of friends. We played with it for a
> while, some people figured out how to do very cool things with it, but then
> everybody seemed to loose interest.
>
> My sense was that it's a tool with a lot of potential, but it wasn't quite
> ready for prime time yet. Google should have rolled it out to teams who
> wanted to use it for a project, not to individuals.
>
> I found it especially irritating that the stuff I was actually working on
> all seemed me be in the lower right hand corner of the screen - if I could
> have resized and repositioned that window, it would have made a huge
> difference in usability for me. Interestingly enough, the new SecondLife
> viewer software does the same thing, so perhaps it's a current "in thing"
> for visual interface designers.
>
> Good luck with your presentation! What are you using Wave for? Did you have
> more success than we did?
>
> Jean Hewlett
> University of San Francisco
> aka
> Riven Homewood
> Director, Steelhead Public Library, SecondLife
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Christine Peterson <peterson at amigos.org>wrote:
>
>> I'll be doing a short presentation on Google Wave this week and wanted
>> to find out if anyone has started using it - either professionally or
>> personally. I'm having a hard time finding real implementations (or
>> even libraries that are testing for possible implementation).
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're using it - or know someone who is - please let me know.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Christine Peterson
>>
>> Continuing Education Librarian, Technology
>>
>> Amigos Library Services, Inc.
>>
>> 14400 Midway Road
>>
>> Dallas, TX 75244-3509
>>
>> 800-843-8482 x2891 * 972-991-6061 (fax)
>>
>> www.amigos.org <http://www.amigos.org/> * peterson at amigos.org
>> <mailto:peterson at amigos.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> Assess>>Act>>Advance, the Amigos 2010 Annual Member Conference - online
>>
>> May 5 and 6, 2010 http://conference.amigos.org/
>> <http://conference.amigos.org/>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:29:14 -0700
> From: Laura Krier <laura.krier at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Anyone Using Google Wave?
> To: web4lib at webjunction.org
> Message-ID:
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> I, too, have really been wanting to try Google Wave for several
> projects, and I've been having a hard time convincing anyone to try
> it. I've been wondering what it's going to take to get people to make
> the leap. If anyone has managed to convince their teams to give it a
> shot, I'd love to hear how you talked them into it.
>
> Laura
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Norma Jean Hewlett <hewlett at usfca.edu> wrote:
>> I suggested it to my workgroup (9 people in 5 geographically separated
>> locations) but nobody wanted to try it.
>>
>> I also tried it with several groups of friends. We played with it for a
>> while, some people figured out how to do very cool things with it, but then
>> everybody seemed to loose interest.
>>
>> My sense was that it's a tool with a lot of potential, but it wasn't quite
>> ready for prime time yet. Google should have rolled it out to teams who
>> wanted to use it for a project, not to individuals.
>>
>> I found it especially irritating that the stuff I was actually working on
>> all seemed me be in the lower right hand corner of the screen - if I could
>> have resized and repositioned that window, it would have made a huge
>> difference in usability for me. Interestingly enough, the new SecondLife
>> viewer software does the same thing, so perhaps it's a current "in thing"
>> for visual interface designers.
>>
>> Good luck with your presentation! What are you using Wave for? Did you have
>> more success than we did?
>>
>> Jean Hewlett
>> University of San Francisco
>> aka
>> Riven Homewood
>> Director, Steelhead Public Library, SecondLife
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Christine Peterson <peterson at amigos.org>wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be doing a short presentation on Google Wave this week and wanted
>>> to find out if anyone has started using it - either professionally or
>>> personally. ?I'm having a hard time finding real implementations (or
>>> even libraries that are testing for possible implementation).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're using it - or know someone who is - please let me know.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christine Peterson
>>>
>>> Continuing Education Librarian, Technology
>>>
>>> Amigos Library Services, Inc.
>>>
>>> 14400 Midway Road
>>>
>>> Dallas, TX ?75244-3509
>>>
>>> 800-843-8482 x2891 * 972-991-6061 (fax)
>>>
>>> www.amigos.org <http://www.amigos.org/> ?* peterson at amigos.org
>>> <mailto:peterson at amigos.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Assess>>Act>>Advance, the Amigos 2010 Annual Member Conference - online
>>>
>>> May 5 and 6, 2010 ? ?http://conference.amigos.org/
>>> <http://conference.amigos.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Web4lib mailing list
>>> Web4lib at webjunction.org
>>> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/
>>>
>>>
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