[Web4lib] RE: Amazon Deletes Orwell from Kindles

[C Ward Price]

It's not the same thing, but I believe it's That Hagen Girl
<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039892/>  that one cannot find anymore,
because the RNC went out and acquired/bought all the copies to destroy
them.  Unless that's an urban myth.

 

Ward Price, Librarian

Ivy Tech Community College, Northeast

3800 N. Anthony Blvd
Fort Wayne IN 46805

(260) 480-2033

cprice55 at ivytech.edu

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Foster
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:28 PM
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] RE: Amazon Deletes Orwell from Kindles

 

Making them all vanish would at least be noticeable. Changing a few

words here and there---then we're getting into Winston Smith

territory.

 

Sharon M. Foster, JD, MLS

Librarians bring order out of chaos.

http://www.vsa-software.com/mlsportfolio/ 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Tim Spalding<tim at librarything.com>
wrote:

> Yes, the point isn't that they were legal-they were only legal in some

> countries, not in others-the point is that buying a book that contains

> a copyright violation does not, in the real world, entitle the

> bookseller to enter your house and repossess the book, let alone take

> and destroy the notes you took about the book.

> 

> So, with respect, the problem isn't fact checking. The problem is the
facts.

> 

> The danger is that capabilities like this end up eroding our

> expectations of book privacy. That expectation is a cultural thing,

> built up over centuries and central to, well, western culture. It

> doesn't extend past books as easily: Apple has used, a similar "kill

> switch" on a number of apps it didn't like; but people don't have

> quite the same expectations for an iPhone app., so the fuss was more

> muted. If we let that sort of attitude take hold here, we may well

> wake up in a world where where our books change and even vanish

> without a trace, for any number of reasons.

> 

> The ability to delete something at any time, and to go after the

> reader, rather than the author and publisher, are new. Consider the US

> justice system's strong bias against preliminary injunctions on

> documents that end up being clear violations of one law or another.

> Publishers and authors are responsible, but nobody destroys books

> until the case is decided, and nobody goes out and collects all the

> violating copies from innocent readers either. So, for example, when

> Daniel Elsberg was indicted for leaking the Pentagon Papers, nobody

> worried all the copies out there would suddenly vanish.

> 

> Tim

> 

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Amy Rogers<rogers.a at comcast.net>
wrote:

>> For what it is worth, I came across this item the other day. Seemed
that if

>> some fact checking were done, there would not have been an outrage.

>> 

>> "The two books in question were published for the Kindle by a company
called

>> Mobile Reference, which offers public domain books for around $1.
Mobile

>> Reference did not have the right to sell Orwell's novels because 1984
and

>> Animal Farm are still under copyright protection in the United
States. They

>> were not legitimate or "perfectly legal" copies of the books, but
rather

>> illicit copies that should not have been sold in the first place.

>> "Contrary to what the New York Times reported, the publisher did not
change

>> its mind, nor did Amazon cave to pressure. Rather, Amazon was
notified that

>> copyrighted material was being sold on the Amazon store without
permission

>> and it removed said material."

>> 

>> More at http://bit.ly/hQDZQ

>> 

>> "Media goes crazy over Amazon deleting '1984' from Kindle, but
99-cent ebook

>> was illegal copy"

>> 

>> 

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