[Web4lib] " ...lead to most of the document being markup and not data" - my OPAC

Thomas Zimoski tzimoski at gmail.com
Wed Oct 10 18:42:16 EDT 2007


>From a previous post about XML:
"Using XML for something like a spreadsheet would quickly lead to most
of the document being markup and not data."

This sentence prompts me to point out what seems like the extravagant
mark-up of my public library's OPAC, and perhaps OPACs in general.

To display:
Debating the good society : a quest to bridge America's moral divide /
Andrew Bard Schmookler.
(Number of characters: 79)

We have the following. (I arrived at this record by doing a title
keyword search for: debating good society.  The html, which triples
the number of characters, serves to highlight my keywords.) :

<font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 128);">Debating</font>
the <font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 128);">good</font>
<font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 128);">society</font> : a
quest to bridge America's moral divide / Andrew Bard Schmookler.
(Number of characters: 244)

____________________________________________
Or consider this:
Debating the good society : a quest to bridge America's moral divide /
Andrew Bard Schmookler.
by Schmookler, Andrew Bard.
		Cambridge, Mass. : MIT Press, c1999. c1999.
Subjects	Social values -- United States.
 	Social values -- United States.
 	United States -- Moral conditions.
 	United States -- Social conditions -- 1980-
 	United States -- Moral conditions.
 	United States -- Social conditions -- 1980-
ISBN: 		0262194147 (hc : alk. paper)

Description: 		viii, 378 p. ; 24 cm.
Requests: 		0
(Number of characters: 403)

The book title, author's name and each of the subject headings are
link text and I understand that the links themselves will require
additional characters, but 5,784 additional characters??

Would it be fair to say that economizing on the number of characters
was not a major consideration in designing this system?  Maybe it
wouldn't be fair, or maybe it's not important - I don't know.

It just seems  like the OPAC would respond more quickly if these file
sizes could be cut substantially.

Tom Zimoski
Fresno, CA


<font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 128);">Debating</font>
the <font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 128);">good</font>
<font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 128);">society</font> : a
quest to bridge America's moral divide / Andrew Bard
Schmookler.</a></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">by </a><a class="smallAnchor"
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=AL%7E%21Schmookler,%20Andrew%20Bard.&amp;ri=1&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">Schmookler,
Andrew Bard.</a></td></tr>**<td width="100%"><table
class="tableBackground" border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td
colspan="2" width="100%"><a class="normalBlackFont1">Cambridge, Mass.
: MIT Press, c1999. c1999.</a></td></tr><tr><td><a
class="boldBlackFont1" title="Subjects">Subjects</a></td><td><a
class="smallAnchor" title="Social values -- United States."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;term=Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon"></a><li><a
class="smallAnchor" title="Social values -- United States."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;term=Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">Social
values -- United States.</a></li></td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><a
class="smallAnchor" title="Social values -- United States."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;term=Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon"></a><li><a
class="smallAnchor" title="Social values -- United States."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;term=Social%20values%20--%20United%20States.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">Social
values -- United States.</a></li></td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Moral conditions."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon"></a><li><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Moral conditions."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">United
States -- Moral
conditions.</a></li></td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Social conditions --
1980-" href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon"></a><li><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Social conditions --
1980-" href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">United
States -- Social conditions --
1980-</a></li></td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><a class="smallAnchor"
title="United States -- Moral conditions."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon"></a><li><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Moral conditions."
href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Moral%20conditions.&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">United
States -- Moral
conditions.</a></li></td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp;</td><td><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Social conditions --
1980-" href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon"></a><li><a
class="smallAnchor" title="United States -- Social conditions --
1980-" href="http://hip1.sjvls.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=1192QQ18P2350.4269&amp;profile=fhq&amp;uri=search=SL%7E%21United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;term=United%20States%20--%20Social%20conditions%20--%201980-&amp;aspect=basic_search&amp;menu=search&amp;source=%7E%21horizon">United
States -- Social conditions -- 1980-</a></li></td></tr><tr><td
nowrap="true" valign="top" width="1%"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">ISBN:&nbsp;</a></td><td valign="top"
width="99%"><table class="tableBackground" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">0262194147 (hc : alk.
paper)</a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td nowrap="true"
valign="top" width="1%"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">Description:&nbsp;</a></td><td valign="top"
width="99%"><table class="tableBackground" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">viii, 378 p. ; 24
cm.</a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td nowrap="true"
valign="top" width="1%"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">Requests:&nbsp;</a></td><td valign="top"
width="99%"><table class="tableBackground" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><a
class="normalBlackFont1">0</a>

Number of characters: 6,187


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