[Web4lib] Skills for Library 2.0 Leaders

tfitzger at pratt.edu tfitzger at pratt.edu
Mon Apr 30 20:04:36 EDT 2007 

I've tried Pot 3.0.  It links you directly to another's higher
consciousness . . .

Terence

> I don't think Web 2.0 is a fad, but it's clear the *term* has jumped
> the shark when the media starts talking about powerful marijuana as
> "Pot 2.0":
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18310976/
>
> Of course, everything will change when we have Pot 3.0, the Semantic Pot.
>
> Tim
>
> On 4/30/07, Ron Peterson <ronpeterson39401 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I don't think catching up is a real goal.  We should be looking past
>> the technology and trying to come up with ways to use it to anticipate
>> and meet the needs/goals of our users.  Do users really want to be
>> involved in the creation of services and products?  Don't they want to
>> use them?  I think libraries are trying to catch up to what some of the
>> web is doing in creating participatory environments -- and succeeding.
>> But I also think a lot of people are putting podcasts and blogs on their
>> website without any thought as to what value they provide to people.  So
>> I think we really need to give serious thought to what we are trying to
>> accomplish.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mark Costa <markrcosta at gmail.com>
>> To: Web4lib at webjunction.org
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:09:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Skills for Library 2.0 Leaders
>>
>> What are we really trying to accomplish? Perhaps we are trying to catch
>> up
>> to the rest of the web by creating participatory information
>> environments
>> using these neat tools? I think we are seeing a general trend where
>> people no longer want to be passive consumers of anything that they care
>> about. If you want to develop a passionate user base, you need to get
>> them
>> involved in the creation of services and the products you offer. Wikis,
>> blogs, etc are the best tools we have for that, at least for now.
>>
>> On 4/30/07, Hutchens, Chad <chutchens at montana.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hmmm...as a passing fad I guess I meant that I think the level of
>> > attention in libraryland to Library 2.0 will pass.  I do think that
>> > there will be things from Web/Library 2.0 that will stick, just not
>> all
>> > of it.
>> >
>> > It just seems that we're focusing on the specific technologies (e.g.
>> > blogs, wikis, podcasts, and RSS) themselves in the broad discussion of
>> > Library 2.0 (not just on this listserv) instead of focusing on what
>> > we're really trying to accomplish.  And in some ways, I think we might
>> > be losing sight of what our real goals are...you know, the old
>> > technology for technology's sake (something of which I'm quite guilty
>> I
>> > must admit).
>> >
>> > Chad E. Hutchens
>> > Electronic Resources Librarian
>> > Montana State University Libraries
>> > P.O. Box 173320
>> > Bozeman, MT  59717-3320
>> > (406) 994-4313 phone
>> > (406) 994-2851 fax
>> > chutchens at montana.edu
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org
>> > [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of David Kemper
>> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:41 PM
>> > To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Skills for Library 2.0 Leaders
>> >
>> > What a great discussion!
>> >
>> > I think everyone has brought up some very valid points and critical
>> > observations about the whole Web 2.0 phenomenon. While I do not
>> > believe Web 2.0 is a passing fad, as Chad mentioned, I can see where
>> > he is coming from on this.
>> >
>> > The terminology to be adopted by the public to describe and define
>> > "Web 2.0" will surface in due time. Someone mentioned the death of the
>> > term "Information Superhighway." I cringe when I hear those words
>> > nowadays. But back in 1995 or so, when I remember browsing the web
>> > using something called Lynx (I think), those were the coolest words to
>> > hit a computer screen. It eventually became what we affectionately
>> > call the Web.
>> >
>> > Right now (at least for me at my level of understanding), the term Web
>> > 2.0 still works, still describes in essence what I feel will not pass
>> > or fade away: the participatory web, the user-created web experience
>> > and the enabling of better search and discovery and collaboration and
>> > connection among users.
>> >
>> > As information professionals with an affinity for the Web and
>> > technology, I think it is tempting to run amok with "Library 2.0,"
>> > offering 2.0 solutions to every user need (well, I know I feel that
>> > way sometimes). But the real answer--rather, real strategy--still lies
>> > in listening to user needs and then responding to them, whether with a
>> > blog, podcast or a plain and simple Library 1.0 solution.
>> >
>> > David
>> > Archivist, Web Services
>> > IMF Archives
>> >
>> > On 4/30/07, Stevens, Julieanne H. <jhsteven at law.stetson.edu> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Like most everyone else, I think that more advanced programming type
>> > > skills are nice, but not particularly necessary. A little
>> Dreamweaver,
>> > > Front Page or a WYSIWYG editor and I think most of us are good to
>> go.
>> > > (Obviously depending on how much help you get from your IT
>> department
>> > > and what branding applies to web pages, even intranet pages)
>> > >
>> > >  We're in the process of making some basic additions to start with;
>> > > we're adding pertinent RSS feeds and Blog links to subject
>> > > bibliographies. My big project this summer is linking "lessons" for
>> > each
>> > > database to the database so that students can learn on their own how
>> > to
>> > > use it. Scope notes alone  are no longer enough information.
>> > >
>> > >  I'm also not seeing a "perfect world" solution to the interface of
>> > > databases and serials holdings. Serials Solutions is  awesome, with
>> > > their Journals A-Z list, even being able to incorporate bound
>> > holdings,
>> > > but   a database web page is LOT of information for 'one' page.  The
>> > > primary issue is accessibility; pop-ups, mouseovers and related
>> > > gimmicks don't work in a world where your web pages have to be
>> > > accessible.
>> > >
>> > > We want an intranet WIKI for both the library staff and a separate
>> > one
>> > > for faculty. (In the early planning stage; we're not sure whether
>> and
>> > > how these should be separated; faculty doesn't need to know  how to
>> do
>> > a
>> > > task in Millennium, but both groups would do well to see our new
>> > > acquisitions.  Faculty need quick access to passwords for services
>> > they
>> > > only need occasionally ( Pacer, NYT, Wall Street Journal, etc.) and
>> to
>> > > special announcements, services and contact information particular
>> to
>> > > them.
>> > >
>> > > We're in the process of setting up an RSS page for just our library
>> > > professional and paraprofessional with  news/feeds. This way, all of
>> > us
>> > > can catch up on our reading from a similar starting point. I know
>> who
>> > > else is on a routing slip for a particular journal; I don't know who
>> > > else is reading a particular blog.  With a common page, we can all
>> > > assume  the rest of the staff has read something.  We  have a yahoo
>> > > group for Library employees, for both emergency contacts and soon,
>> > > perhaps for the RSS access.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I think one of the stumbling blocks to the infamous Library 2.0  is
>> > that
>> > > it's LIFE 2.0; it's not particular to libraries, or any other
>> > > institution. As many other people have said with much more finesse,
>> > this
>> > > all is still about  what our client/patron base needs and wants.
>> > >
>> > > Juju
>> > > Julieanne Hartman Stevens, MLS, JD
>> > > Electronic Services and Reference Librarian
>> > > Stetson University College of Law
>> > > 1401 61st Street South
>> > > Gulfport, Florida 33707-3299
>> > > Direct Line 727-562-7304
>> > > Internal  Extension 7204
>> > > JHSteven at law.stetson.edu
>> > >
>> > > If librarianship is the connecting of people to ideas - and I
>> believe
>> > > that is the truest definition of what we do - it is crucial to
>> > remember
>> > > that we must keep and make available, not just good ideas and noble
>> > > ideas, but bad ideas, silly ideas, and yes, even dangerous or wicked
>> > > ideas."
>> > >  Graceanne A. Decandido
>> > >
>> > >
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>> --
>> Mark R. Costa, MLS
>>
>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>> depends on the unreasonable man."
>> --- George Bernard Shaw
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