[Web4lib] Skills for Library 2.0 Leaders

Mon Apr 30 17:35:29 EDT 2007

I don't think Web 2.0 is a fad, but it's clear the *term* has jumped
the shark when the media starts talking about powerful marijuana as
"Pot 2.0":

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18310976/

Of course, everything will change when we have Pot 3.0, the Semantic Pot.

Tim

On 4/30/07, Ron Peterson <ronpeterson39401 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't think catching up is a real goal.  We should be looking past
> the technology and trying to come up with ways to use it to anticipate
> and meet the needs/goals of our users.  Do users really want to be involved in the creation of services and products?  Don't they want to use them?  I think libraries are trying to catch up to what some of the web is doing in creating participatory environments -- and succeeding.  But I also think a lot of people are putting podcasts and blogs on their website without any thought as to what value they provide to people.  So I think we really need to give serious thought to what we are trying to accomplish.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Costa <markrcosta at gmail.com>
> To: Web4lib at webjunction.org
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:09:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Skills for Library 2.0 Leaders
>
> What are we really trying to accomplish? Perhaps we are trying to catch up
> to the rest of the web by creating participatory information environments
> using these neat tools? I think we are seeing a general trend where
> people no longer want to be passive consumers of anything that they care
> about. If you want to develop a passionate user base, you need to get them
> involved in the creation of services and the products you offer. Wikis,
> blogs, etc are the best tools we have for that, at least for now.
>
> On 4/30/07, Hutchens, Chad <chutchens at montana.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm...as a passing fad I guess I meant that I think the level of
> > attention in libraryland to Library 2.0 will pass.  I do think that
> > there will be things from Web/Library 2.0 that will stick, just not all
> > of it.
> >
> > It just seems that we're focusing on the specific technologies (e.g.
> > blogs, wikis, podcasts, and RSS) themselves in the broad discussion of
> > Library 2.0 (not just on this listserv) instead of focusing on what
> > we're really trying to accomplish.  And in some ways, I think we might
> > be losing sight of what our real goals are...you know, the old
> > technology for technology's sake (something of which I'm quite guilty I
> > must admit).
> >
> > Chad E. Hutchens
> > Electronic Resources Librarian
> > Montana State University Libraries
> > P.O. Box 173320
> > Bozeman, MT  59717-3320
> > (406) 994-4313 phone
> > (406) 994-2851 fax
> > chutchens at montana.edu
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org
> > [mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of David Kemper
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:41 PM
> > To: web4lib at webjunction.org
> > Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Skills for Library 2.0 Leaders
> >
> > What a great discussion!
> >
> > I think everyone has brought up some very valid points and critical
> > observations about the whole Web 2.0 phenomenon. While I do not
> > believe Web 2.0 is a passing fad, as Chad mentioned, I can see where
> > he is coming from on this.
> >
> > The terminology to be adopted by the public to describe and define
> > "Web 2.0" will surface in due time. Someone mentioned the death of the
> > term "Information Superhighway." I cringe when I hear those words
> > nowadays. But back in 1995 or so, when I remember browsing the web
> > using something called Lynx (I think), those were the coolest words to
> > hit a computer screen. It eventually became what we affectionately
> > call the Web.
> >
> > Right now (at least for me at my level of understanding), the term Web
> > 2.0 still works, still describes in essence what I feel will not pass
> > or fade away: the participatory web, the user-created web experience
> > and the enabling of better search and discovery and collaboration and
> > connection among users.
> >
> > As information professionals with an affinity for the Web and
> > technology, I think it is tempting to run amok with "Library 2.0,"
> > offering 2.0 solutions to every user need (well, I know I feel that
> > way sometimes). But the real answer--rather, real strategy--still lies
> > in listening to user needs and then responding to them, whether with a
> > blog, podcast or a plain and simple Library 1.0 solution.
> >
> > David
> > Archivist, Web Services
> > IMF Archives
> >
> > On 4/30/07, Stevens, Julieanne H. <jhsteven at law.stetson.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > Like most everyone else, I think that more advanced programming type
> > > skills are nice, but not particularly necessary. A little Dreamweaver,
> > > Front Page or a WYSIWYG editor and I think most of us are good to go.
> > > (Obviously depending on how much help you get from your IT department
> > > and what branding applies to web pages, even intranet pages)
> > >
> > >  We're in the process of making some basic additions to start with;
> > > we're adding pertinent RSS feeds and Blog links to subject
> > > bibliographies. My big project this summer is linking "lessons" for
> > each
> > > database to the database so that students can learn on their own how
> > to
> > > use it. Scope notes alone  are no longer enough information.
> > >
> > >  I'm also not seeing a "perfect world" solution to the interface of
> > > databases and serials holdings. Serials Solutions is  awesome, with
> > > their Journals A-Z list, even being able to incorporate bound
> > holdings,
> > > but   a database web page is LOT of information for 'one' page.  The
> > > primary issue is accessibility; pop-ups, mouseovers and related
> > > gimmicks don't work in a world where your web pages have to be
> > > accessible.
> > >
> > > We want an intranet WIKI for both the library staff and a separate
> > one
> > > for faculty. (In the early planning stage; we're not sure whether and
> > > how these should be separated; faculty doesn't need to know  how to do
> > a
> > > task in Millennium, but both groups would do well to see our new
> > > acquisitions.  Faculty need quick access to passwords for services
> > they
> > > only need occasionally ( Pacer, NYT, Wall Street Journal, etc.) and to
> > > special announcements, services and contact information particular to
> > > them.
> > >
> > > We're in the process of setting up an RSS page for just our library
> > > professional and paraprofessional with  news/feeds. This way, all of
> > us
> > > can catch up on our reading from a similar starting point. I know who
> > > else is on a routing slip for a particular journal; I don't know who
> > > else is reading a particular blog.  With a common page, we can all
> > > assume  the rest of the staff has read something.  We  have a yahoo
> > > group for Library employees, for both emergency contacts and soon,
> > > perhaps for the RSS access.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think one of the stumbling blocks to the infamous Library 2.0  is
> > that
> > > it's LIFE 2.0; it's not particular to libraries, or any other
> > > institution. As many other people have said with much more finesse,
> > this
> > > all is still about  what our client/patron base needs and wants.
> > >
> > > Juju
> > > Julieanne Hartman Stevens, MLS, JD
> > > Electronic Services and Reference Librarian
> > > Stetson University College of Law
> > > 1401 61st Street South
> > > Gulfport, Florida 33707-3299
> > > Direct Line 727-562-7304
> > > Internal  Extension 7204
> > > JHSteven at law.stetson.edu
> > >
> > > If librarianship is the connecting of people to ideas - and I believe
> > > that is the truest definition of what we do - it is crucial to
> > remember
> > > that we must keep and make available, not just good ideas and noble
> > > ideas, but bad ideas, silly ideas, and yes, even dangerous or wicked
> > > ideas."
> > >  Graceanne A. Decandido
> > >
> > >
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> --
> Mark R. Costa, MLS
>
> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
> depends on the unreasonable man."
> --- George Bernard Shaw
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