R: [Web4lib] Lack of discussion of Google CSE and Libraries

Thu Nov 9 09:23:21 EST 2006

Although I agree with John that the CSE (as most are using it) is little
more than a good interface for the "site:" operator, most are not making
full use yet of the marker functions.

These marker functions (http://www.google.com/coop/cse/marker) accomplish
two things.  First, they can make for faceted search results.  Second, they
motivate users to annotate the web for Google.

These two things are definitely worth blogging about.  The first because
custom faceted search results could be enormously useful within a specific
discipline (especially for academic, medical, and special libraries).  The
second because perhaps libraryfolk should consider carefully the benefits
and potential problems of gifting google the expert annotation of web
resources.

Dean Giustini has some interesting posts on Google Co-Op and "Google health"
relating to this that were written before the CSEs were announced by Google:

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/cgi-bin/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=161&search=co-op

It has been my impression that the Google CSE was created largely as a
motivator for users to annotate the web for Google- and I have been
surprised to see little discussion on this point in the biblioblogosphere.

Best,

-David

http://davidrothman.net

On 11/9/06, John Fink <john.fink at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been messing with it (and, although I am hardly anything even mildly
> approaching a prolific blogger, blogging about it at
> http://libgrunt.blogspot.com), drawing up a customized search for Ohio
> newspaper websites.  I've gotten a positive reaction from a couple of
> faculty, which is nice.
>
> I think perhaps people haven't been blogging about it because it's not
> really a quantum leap in search -- when you think about it, it's just a
> fancy way of defining google's "site:" operator -- so maybe it's not sexy
> enough to blog about.  But I can see it being very useful and based on the
> reaction I've gotten from the faculty I can see myself defining a few CSEs
> and working them into our library pages somehow.
>
> jf
>
>
> On 11/9/06, Bonaria Biancu <bonaria.biancu at unimib.it> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'm an italian librarian, and in the last months I've tried for my blog,
> > 'The Geek librarian' <http://bonariabiancu.wordpress.com/>, social
> search
> > engines Rollyo <http://www.rollyo.com/bonariabiancu/the_geek_librarian/>
> > and Swiki <http://biblioteca-20-swicki.eurekster.com/>.
> >
> > With Google CSE I've created the 'SO::LIB -- Social software for
> > libraries' search engine <
> > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=014695034523506990592%3A14_nfyc-lwq>.
> >
> > I think CSE is really easy to use - it's the 'Google style' :-) - and
> > offers functionalities that others search engines don't have - for
> example
> > Google marker and the 'Add to Google' button that I find very useful!
> >
> > Anyway, I think all these can serve in libraries in lots of ways - first
> > of all for reference services.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Bonaria
> >
> >
> > Bonaria Biancu
> > Biblioteca di Ateneo - Sede Centrale
> > Universita' di Milano Bicocca
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> > E-mail: bonaria.biancu at unimib.it
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> >
> > ׀ -----Messaggio originale-----
> > ׀ Da: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-
> > ׀ bounces at webjunction.org] Per conto di Drew, Bill
> > ׀ Inviato: giovedì 9 novembre 2006 0.49
> > ׀ A: web4lib at webjunction.org
> > ׀ Oggetto: [Web4lib] Lack of discussion of Google CSE and Libraries
> > ׀
> > ׀ I originally posted this on my blog yesterday but I thought I might
> get
> > ׀ some discussion here.
> > ׀
> > ׀ I have been disappointed in the lack of posts from the most prolific
> > ׀ library bloggers on the topic of Google Custom Search Engines.  In my
> > ׀ own opinion it is the most important development at Google since
> Google
> > ׀ went live.  Searching for the phrase "Google Custom Search " on LISZEN
> > ׀ gets me 58 pages listed in the results
> > ׀ <
> http://liszen.com/index.html?cx=007111056751095715160%3A3qdthmlca-m&q=%
> > ׀ 22google+custom+search%22&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A9> .  The articles are
> > ׀ not from many of the big names in library tech blogging.  Some you
> might
> > ׀ recognize are David Rothman <http://davidrothman.net/> , OA Librarian
> > ׀ <
> http://oalibrarian.blogspot.com/2006/10/cool-new-search-tool-for-oa-new
> > ׀ s.html> , and Christina's LIS Rant
> > ׀ <
> http://christinaslibraryrant.blogspot.com/2006/10/google-custom-search.
> > ׀ html> .  I am disappointed that ALA Tech Source nor any of the people
> at
> > ׀ Library Journal have not reported on it.  I can also think of several
> > ׀ other bloggers that should be covering this but are not.
> > ׀
> > ׀
> > ׀ Technorati Tags: GoolgeCSE <http://technorati.com/tag/GoolgeCSE> ,
> > ׀ Google <http://technorati.com/tag/Google> , Libraries
> > ׀ <http://technorati.com/tag/Libraries>
> > ׀
> > ׀ Wilfred (Bill) Drew
> > ׀ Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference
> > ׀ Morrisville State College Library
> > ׀ E-mail: mailto:drewwe at morrisville.edu
> > ׀ AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4
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> > ׀ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/
> > ׀ Library: http://library.morrisville.edu/
> > ׀ SUNYConnect: http://www.sunyconnect.suny.edu/
> > ׀ My Blog:http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com
> > ׀
> > ׀
> > ׀ "They that can give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety
> > ׀ deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin, 1759
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