[Web4lib] Gracefully degrades to..?

[Hankinson, Andrew]

I've read one of Eric Meyer's books, "More Eric Meyer on CSS," and found
it decent.  The first of his books (conveniently titled "Eric Meyer on
CSS") I have not read.
 
However, the best learning tool is to find a site you like and dissect
the CSS.  I have found a number of Firefox extensions that help with
that (my favorite is one that dynamically updates a page as soon as you
make an edit on the stylesheet)
 
If you are interested in this, let me know.

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From: Jennifer Heise [mailto:jenne.heise at gmail.com] 
Sent: May 24, 2006 12:20 PM
To: Hankinson, Andrew; Web4Lib
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Gracefully degrades to..?


Can you recommend a good book on using CSS for positioning that DOES
degrade gracefully? I've really avoided using CSS-based layout myself
because I've seen it degrade horribly so many times, and I don't want to
take a chance on my users seeing all the text piled on top of each
other. 



On 5/24/06, Hankinson, Andrew <HankiA at parl.gc.ca> wrote: 

	One possible, standards-compliant way to degrade gracefully is
to use
	CSS-only layouts for your site, and allow users to switch the
stylesheet
	off.  If HTML is left only for markup, (i.e. tables are not used
for
	layout, unordered lists are used for menus, etc.), your site
will be
	functional, if not pretty, for your users.
	
	Possible, but not necessarily realistic given the wide range of
coding
	competencies out there.
	
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	[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Drew, Bill

	Sent: May 24, 2006 8:54 AM
	To: kgs at bluehighways.com; web4lib at webjunction.org
	Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Gracefully degrades to..? 
	
	I think all you need to do is have the validation graphic on
your
	webpages.  Considering how easy it is to get a browser that will
work up
	to standards any more, there is no need nor should anyone label
a page 
	to say it works best with  a specific browser.  The help
documents could
	make suggestions for the best version number of browsers to use.
	
	Wilfred (Bill) Drew
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