[Web4lib] Netlibrary audiobooks (was RE: Overdrive)

Mark Ellis mark.ellis at yourlibrary.ca
Tue May 23 17:04:54 EDT 2006

Audible's format works on many non-Apple devices as well, but it doesn't
support content expiry, so Audible's library circulation model involved
handing out players to patrons which largely defeated the benefit of
downloadable audio books. 

Mark Ellis
Manager, Reference and Information Services
Richmond Public Library (BC)

-----Original Message-----
From: Hankinson, Andrew [mailto:HankiA at parl.gc.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:37 PM
To: web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Netlibrary audiobooks (was RE: Overdrive)

As one example of Apple working with a 3rd party on an initiative, check out

There is hope. 

-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Michael McEvoy
Sent: May 23, 2006 4:28 PM
To: Carol Bean
Cc: Web4lib at webjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Netlibrary audiobooks (was RE: Overdrive)

In many cases, NetLibrary subscribers are joining with the HOPE that
netLibrary gets the proper licensing for iPods soon...

The Govt can't force MS or Apple to use a competitors software just because
we demand them to. One or the other has to capitulate. I believe, in terms
of libraries, that if Overdrive adopting NetLibrary buffet style
offerings... NetLibrary would be wiped off the table almost immediately as a
valid Digital Audio Book source for Libraries.

But perhaps Overdrive just doesn't want that market

On Tue, May 23, 2006 16:24, Carol Bean wrote:
- > I've been tracking this out of the corner of my eye also.
- >
- > Interesting about the Mac.  Do the licensees of Netlibrary audiobooks
- > out there know how many of their patrons cannot use the product they're
- > paying for?  Or do we jump in and subscribe because everyone else is?
- > On the other hand, who among us is going to refuse a product simply
- > because it's discriminatory?  But we probably don't want to go there...
- >
- > Carol Bean
- > North County Regional Library
- > Palm Beach County Library System
- > 11303 Campus Drive
- > Palm Beach Gardens, FL  33410
- >
- >
- >
- >>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:56:04 -0500
- >>From: "Jesse Ephraim" <JEphraim at ci.southlake.tx.us>
- >>Subject: RE: [Web4lib] RE: Overdrive
- >><snip>
- >>
- >>
- >>
- >>>If Overdrive's business model was like the NetLibrary one (buffet
- >>>style), my bet is that we would already have purchased a subscription
- >>>and had everything up-and-running.
- >>>
- >>>
- >>
- >>I've been tracking this out of the corner of my eye, and it brings up
- >>the issue of Mac marginalization.  As far as I know, Macs still cannot
- >>use NetLibrary and there is no plan by OCLC to make NetLibrary
- >>Mac-compatible.  Is Overdrive Mac-friendly?  Will the popularity of the
- >>iPod change OCLC's marketing strategy?  To quote NetLibrary:
- >>
- >>" Q: Can I download and play an audiobook on a Mac?
- >>A: NetLibrary audiobooks cannot be played on Macs because the latest
- >>version of Window Media Player available for Macs (version 9) is based
- >>on Windows Media Rights Manager version 1.3. NetLibrary uses version 2.x
- >>licenses for eAudiobooks in order to maintain a high level of security.
- >>Because the latest version of Windows Media Player for Macs does not
- >>support 2.x licenses, NetLibrary audiobooks cannot be played on Macs at
- >>this point in time.
- >>
- >>Q: Can I download and play an audiobook on an iPod?
- >>A: No, NetLibrary audiobooks cannot be played on iPods. iPods use the
- >>.aac file format and the .aac file format does not support the Digital
- >>Rights Management protection required by NetLibrary audiobooks at this
- >>time. Digital Rights Management protection helps ensure that the content
- >>of our publishing partners is secure, especially when items are checked
- >>out from the library's collection and borrowed by a user rather than
- >>purchased. This Digital Rights Management technology allows checked out
- >>items to expire on the due date."
- >>
- >>http://netlibrary.com/Help/Default.aspx?Page=FAQ#AudiobooksFAQs
- >>
- >>John Marquette
- >>City of Commerce Public Library
- >>5655 Jillson Street
- >>Commerce, CA 90040
- >>
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