[Web4lib] Microformats

[Ross Singer]

Roy roy roy...

The microformat community would beg to differ.  They don't like COinS
because it doesn't expose any of the semantics.

UnAPI uses a microformat, though.

There is still hope of some sort of crossover between the hCite
microformat and OpenURL, but my guess is that it won't explicitly be
Z39.88 as we know it (instead probably something more like Bibtex).

The jargon of OpenURL is just too much for the broader world to adopt, I fear.

-Ross.

On 7/28/06, Roy Tennant <Roy.Tennant at ucop.edu> wrote:
> Uh, the COinS microformat _is_ OpenURL: http://ocoins.info// .
> Roy
>
>
> On 7/28/06 8:03 AM, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all who answered my query. So, microformats carry/define
> > actionable data. Is there/could there be some synergy with the OpenURL?
> > I ask this because the microformats, as described on the wiki, seem to
> > me to be a bit kitchen-sink-y (one like this, another like that), and
> > I'd rather see some unification rather than a bunch of different formats.
> >
> > kc
> >
> > Ross Singer wrote:
> >> The intention of the microformat is to semantically mark up data that
> >> appears in HTML.
> >>
> >> This way, items on web pages can become more 'actionable' (machines
> >> can figure out what's there and do something with them) without the
> >> need for screen scraping (which is prone to failure).
> >>
> >> There are those (ok, it's me) that grow a little weary of their
> >> 'humans first' dogma; I'm not convinced that /everything/ needs to
> >> appear in the display.
> >>
> >> Still, when you start working with the concept of microformats it's
> >> tough to deny the usefulness.
> >>
> >> -Ross.
> >>
> >> On 7/27/06, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
> >>> I took a look at some of this and still can't quite figure out what
> >>> makes something a "microformat" as opposed to a "format." (Yes, I read
> >>> the definition page on the wiki.) Can anyone articulate that? It just
> >>> seems like an excuse to create YAF (yet another format).
> >>>
> >>> kc
> >>>
> >>> Ross Singer wrote:
> >>>> You'll also see librarians and their 'ilk' all over:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://microformats.org/wiki/citation
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> http://microformats.org/wiki/uid
> >>>>
> >>>> -Ross.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/27/06, Jeremy Frumkin <jeremy.frumkin at oregonstate.edu> wrote:
> >>>>> So, work related to microformats and libraries is already underway.
> >>>>> Check
> >>>>> out the unAPI work (http://unapi.info/), which evolved from earlier
> >>>>> work on
> >>>>> COinS (http://www.ocoins.info).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- jaf
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/27/06 12:03 PM, "Keith D. Engwall" <kengwall at catawba.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm curious as to what interest there is among the library
> >>>>> community for
> >>>>>> Microformats (http://microformats.org).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm still getting my head wrapped around them, but I think there's
> >>>>>> potential for developing microformats for digital collections,
> >>> brief
> >>>>>> catalog records, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For an excellent introduction to what Microformats are, check out:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Digital Web Magazine: Microformats Primer by Garrett Dimon
> >>>>>> (http://www.digital-web.com/articles/microformats_primer/)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Microformats Wiki: Introduction to Microformats
> >>>>>> (http://microformats.org/wiki/introduction)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Keith
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---------------------------------
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> >>>>>> Head of Library Systems and Technology
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