[Web4lib] Subscriber Removal

[Sloan, Bernie]

Rebecca,

Just wanted to point out that Chuck wasn't banned for "using the 'f'
word" on the list. He was already banned from actions back in the last
century. 

And a request for clarification. You say "All the negative talk of
devolution and heavy sighing for a discussion most pertinent to our
profession is disheartening" and you talk about "ignoring the issues the
discussion brings up." I've lost track, which issue/element of the
discussion are you referring to?

Bernie Sloan

-----Original Message-----
From: web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org
[mailto:web4lib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca Ryan
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:43 PM
To: Roy Tennant; Web4Lib
Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Subscriber Removal

Please allow me to say that the portion of the policy: 

"Comments that are intended only to enrage the recipient rather than
contribute to thoughtful discussion are prohibited." has been violated
by
more than just Chuck Munson in this discussion, and removing only him
from
the list for using the "f" word is as juvenile as ignoring the issues
the
discussion brings up. All the negative talk of devolution and heavy
sighing
for a discussion most pertinent to our profession is disheartening. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Tennant [mailto:roy.tennant at ucop.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:24 PM
To: Web4Lib
Subject: [Web4lib] Subscriber Removal

A Web4Lib Advisory Board member was correctly attempting to remove Chuck
Munson (see below), which as it turns out, only I could do (and did).
Chuck
Munson was removed from Web4Lib in 1999 for repeatedly violating list
policy
(see <http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/
web4lib/1999-March/004882.html> for the removal notice). Web4Lib
Management
never removed that sanction, and therefore it remains in force.

We create and enforce policies to create a civil (even if
adversarial) discussion. Over the years that Web4Lib has existed we have
added policies only as required to by the force of events. Once created,
however, we have enforced them strictly -- some may think too strictly.
But
the end result has been a relatively civil and yet interesting and vital
forum for us all. The Web4Lib Advisory Board and the list owner will not
allow a very small number of individuals to ruin that for everyone.
Roy Tennant
Web4Lib Owner

On Dec 15, 2005, at 1:42 PM, Chuck0 wrote:

> I know that a few people here don't like my opinions, but it seem very

> silly that somebody submitted my email address for list removal.
>
> Chuck
>
> web4lib-request at webjunction.org wrote:
>> Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list Web4lib We 
>> have received a request for the removal of your email address, 
>> "chuck at mutualaid.org" from the web4lib at webjunction.org mailing list.
>> To confirm that you want to be removed from this mailing list, simply

>> reply to this message, keeping the Subject: header intact.  Or visit 
>> this web page:
>
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