[WEB4LIB] Re: FW: RE: Kazaa/Morpheus/et.al.

[Andrew I. Mutch]

Dan,

You should contact Jeff Ogden at Merit here in Michigan. They mentioned a
similar problem here where students at Internet2 schools were using that
infrastructure for peer-to-peer file sharing. I believe that they ended up
limiting that traffic to a certain percentage of the bandwidth. 

I would agree with you that no matter how much bandwidth you provide,
people will find a way to use it.

Andrew Mutch
Library Systems Technician
Waterford Township Public Library
Waterford, MI


On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Dan Lester wrote:

> Thanks for the comments so far.  I may not have communicated clearly
> in my first message.  We have the ABILITY to block Kazaa or anything
> else with Packeteer.  We don't have the PERMISSION to do so due to
> campus politics, the "rights" of the dorm students to have
> unrestricted acces, and so forth.  To a certain extent we're dealing
> with dueling VPs.
> 
> What I'm MOST interested in is not the technology, but if any of you
> in academic libraries have dealt with the politics, if any.  Or, if
> you have any policies or documents, on the web or elsewhere that I
> could see, that address this.
> 
> Yes, bandwidth is relatively cheap.  We could go from the equivalent
> of 10 T-1s to a full T3  (i.e. from 15 MB to 45MB) for 24K to 42K a
> year over the current charges.  However, there is some concern that
> even that could be filled by Kazaa and similar.  There is also the
> question of money.  We just had our budget cut 13% (the university,
> not just the library), so money is very tight.
> 
> Anyway, thanks for the comments, both on and off list, and hope to get
> some more about policies.  Do you limit Kazaa, for example, during day
> and not at night, what percentage do you give to those services, and
> so forth.  Personally, I'm VERY unhappy that the less than ten percent
> who live on campus are ruining research and academic access for the
> whole university.  Yeah, I know I often say that no one promised me
> life would be fair, but that doesn't mean I don't want to correct the
> wrongs that I can.
> 
> Ammunition for me, y'all?
> 
> thanks again
> 
> dan
> 
> 
> Thursday, January 31, 2002, 7:50:03 AM, you wrote:
> MGE> Lots of companies are going bust because they constructed way more data
> MGE> lines than there is a market for, but the result is that we should be able
> MGE> to make good deals for a long time.  That is if some of them stay in
> MGE> business.
> MGE> Good comment, Bill.  This, if there is funding, is the way to go.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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