[WEB4LIB] Regarding Job:Librarian at IBM Research

[Roy Tennant]

The Web4Lib Advisory Board 
(http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/#Administration) has consulted 
on this issue and we are unanimous. The posting is appropriate given 
the list policy (http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/#Policy), as the 
position announcement is related to the topic of the list. To make 
this painfully explicit, the policy is being amended to specifically 
allow job postings for positions related to the topic of the list:

"Advertisements are not appropriate. However, a simple statement that 
offers a way to follow-up for more information on a service or 
product is tolerated if it accompanies a substantive message 
discussing a subject appropriate to the list. Announcements of 
conferences, workshops, new publications, and position openings 
appropriate to the topic of the list are allowed. "

We find the arguments for not allowing postings based on the profit 
or non-profit status of the poster to be unconvincing. Neither are 
the conditions of employment nor the manner in which the person is 
hired appropriate criteria for excluding postings. Thanks,
Roy Tennant for the Web4Lib Advisory Board (Thomas Dowling, Bernie 
Sloan, and Karen Schneider)

At 10:19 AM -0700 9/29/00, David Johnson wrote:
>Am I mistaken or should private profit-making Head Hunters be restricted
>from participation in posting to this list?
>
>I understand the need for not-for-profits such as colleges and public
>libraries to post to this list;  advertising dollars are scarce and we need
>to gain as much exposure as possible.
>
>  BUT IBM RESEARCH is HARDLY  POOR!!
>
>If I could have some feedback on this ... does this list have a policy?  Can
>we "restrict" headhunters from accessing our membership?  Should we?
>
>That most recent listing from a Jerry Cohen doesnt impress me with
>sincerity, integrity, or anything, for that matter.  He states,
>
>  " Candidates must be able to start work within one week to ten days after a
>telephone interview."
>
>Now, my fellow library professionals,  have you ever heard of an employer of
>librarians who does ALL interviews by phone?  Have you ever heard of an
>employer of the status of IBM RESEARCH requiring librarian professionals to
>be "able to start work" within one week to ten days?  Supposedly librarians
>can convey enough by phone that a personal interview, site visit,
>presentation, and all the rest is unimportant now in the digital age.
>Something seems very amiss!!!!!
>No, Jerry, I don't want you to post a second time to this list!! I hope you
>get this message and go away.
>
>But that is just my opinion.
>If there is a policy on these kinds of posts, I would like to know it.  If
>there isnt, I would like to work with others to develp one.
>
>
>>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:17:18 -0700 (PDT)
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>>Reply-To: jerryc at computer.net
>>Originator: web4lib at webjunction.org
>>Sender: web4lib at webjunction.org
>>From: Jerry Cohen <jerryc at computer.net>
>>To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>>Subject: [WEB4LIB] Job:Librarian at IBM Research
>>X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas
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>>This notice Expires: October 8, 2000
>>
>>
>>FLASH!!!
>>
>>
>>LIBRARIANS WANTED
>>
>>
>>Immediate contract openings.
>>
>>We are recruiting a team to assist in the the development of an on-line
>>search tool at IBM Research in Westchester County, New York.
>>
>>We are seeking individuals with advanced training in Library Science.
>>
>>The contracted individuals will be engaged in a project developing new
>>technology in a search-related field. This will involve working as part
>>of a small team of programmers and librarians.
>
>Jerry Cohen
>IT Recuiter
>GONZER ASSOCIATES, INC.
>David  Johnson, Library Technology Consultant      	617-253-9327
>MIT Libraries			Room 14-0615
				77 Mass Ave  Cambridge, MA   02139