[WEB4LIB] margins in Netscape

Fri Jan 21 09:20:20 EST 2000

Sam,

I think you are onto something.  I discovered that pages that "looked right" only did
so when the scroll bar was present.  When I hacked out the text so that the page
wouldn't scroll, the margin gap appeared.  Bob Duncan confirmed the same behavior on
his browser yesterday so I know it's not just me.  Now, I need to find out if this is
a "known" bug in Netscape and if there is anyway to fix it other than using a code
hack - which I've been known to use but would rather avoid.

Andrew

Samuel Mcdonald wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I started messing around the code from Andrew's page and from code scarps
> that I had kicking around.  After messing around for a bit I realized the
> rightmost white space was *EXACTLY* the same width as the scroll bar.
> (one of those in-your-face observations).
>
> Although this is not a truly elegant solution, one workaround is to put a
> bunch of <br>'s in the page to ensure that the page is long enough to
> scroll.  This will put in the scrollbar and it will look as if the bar
> truly spans the page.  Alternatively instead of <br>'s etc. stretching a
> transparent 1 pixel graphic long enough to ensure a scroll bar on even the
> largest monitors ought to do the trick as well.
>
> eg.
> (<br clear="all">)(?)
>
> <img src="transparent_1_pixel.gif" height="150" width="1">
>
> Sometimes the low-tech solution satisfies Occam's razor best.
>
> -Sam
>
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> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Andrew Mutch wrote:
>
> > I know that Netscape and IE handle body margins differently.  So, if you don't
> > want a page to have margins, you need to include the following:
> >
> > <BODY topmargin=0 leftmargin=0 marginwidth=0 marginheight=0  BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
> >
> > IE recognizes Top and Left but NN needs the others to eliminate the margins.
> > However, for some reason, I can't get Netscape to properly display the page
> > without the margins.  On the following page:
> >
> > http://www.twp.waterford.mi.us/admin.htm
> >
> > I want the colored bars to extend all the way to the right side of the page.  It
> > displays properly in IE but with Communicator 4.7, there is a gap between the
> > end of the table and the edge of the page. I know this isn't a problem with
> > Communicator itself because I was able to display a number of pages [and not in
> > frames] without any margins.  They also used the same code so I'm not sure where
> > the problem is occuring.  I'm sure someone out there can show me where this is
> > getting messed up.
> >
> > Andrew Mutch
> > Library Systems Technician
> > Waterford Township Public Library
> > Waterford, MI
> >
> >
> >
> >