FW: [WEB4LIB] RE: Hotmail IPs

[Thomas Edelblute]

Earlier today I was involved in a series of e-mails with another person
on this list-serv where I sent him some e-mail that came from the return
address bogus at fake.domain.  As I told him in my last e-mail, as long as
I can telnet into his server with smtp, I win. How is this for
anonymity. Or better yet, I can impersonate him and get him in a lot of
trouble by sending e-mail to his boss.

I did notice that as I created fake.domain on his server, it identified
the IP address for the computer I was coming from. I can defeat this by
doing a telnet to another machine before I do a telnet to his server.
Thus, it would identify me at the first machine I was telnetted into.

Just more food for thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: dAVe burlingame [mailto:davidb at spl.lib.wa.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 5:47 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Hotmail IPs


On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Nick Arnett wrote:

}Furthermore, there are fairly straightforward ways to avoid even
}identifying oneself via IP.  See http://www.anonymizer.com , for
example.

Sure, but there are still no guarantees. Witness the case of the
"anon.fi" 
service (exact name escapes me) a couple years ago, which was the most
widely used anonymizer/remailer on the 'net. The autorities come
knocking,
and the owner buckles, giving the cops the logs of supposedly "stripped"
headers, thereby revealing the identities of everyone who had ever used
the service. 

The only way I can think of to begin to guarantee anonymity would be to
first secure a library card using bogus info (to help avoid the "who was
using what when" query). From there you could set up a HoTMaiL account,
which you use via proxy servers and remailers (at least two). By
sufficiently bouncing things around, you can make your path difficult
enough to trace (though not impossible) that others begin to wonder if
it's worth the time/effort. 

dAVe

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