[WEB4LIB] RE: Hotmail IPs

[Bryan Williams]

Hotmail accounts are not created on the library computer.  They are created
on the Hotmail server, accessible from anywhere.  Individuals are refused
logon privileges, not organizations.  If JSmith were to threaten someone and
this were reported, the person could be put under survellience and an IP
trace could follow their activity to the library.  This is how some hackers
are found.  The authorities would then move on the person, not the library.
Just like if he used a pay phone, they wouldn't smash the phone or
disconnect it, just because it was the medium.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trupiano, Anna <ATrupiano at city.newport-beach.ca.us>
To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib at webjunction.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 4:38 PM
Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Hotmail IPs


>Which brings up a point that none have discussed here.
>
>If a person creates a "hotmail" account on a library computer...
>is it not the library's IP that gets disconnected from Hotmail?
>
>Is it not the police that may come knocking at your door (so to
>speak) to find out who is using the Internet from the IP (if other
>more illegal activities are discovered) in question?  At the time
>in question?
>
>
>> ----------
>> From: Isabel Danforth[SMTP:danforth at tiac.net]
>> Reply To: danforth at tiac.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 11:34 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>> Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: E-mail in libraries
>>
>> Hotmail email are traceable to ip addresses.  I have had spam from
>> hotmail
>> addresses, and admins at hotmail have revoked the account.
>>
>> On the other hand, I have known students with 2 or 3 email accounts on
>> academic servers.  Those also are just as anonymous to me as an
>> account
>> from hotmail.
>>
>> Isabel
>>
>>
>> At 11:04 AM 10/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>> >So.. Just for fun.. This comes to you all via hotmail. If I chose to
>> >flame/dis/rage on at you, could you tell who I am?
>> >
>> >I only just today joined hotmail, and from there subscribed to
>> web4lib.
>> >I have posted to web4lib before, under a real name.
>> >
>> >I think I will probably adopt a 'both worlds' approach.... I will
>> >disallow hotmail, botmail, freemail, etc, but allow registered users
>> >telnet access to their campus mail accounts.
>> >
>> >>From there, they are accountable for their e-mail.
>> >
>> >>From here, I don't think I can be made to be.
>> >
>> >I don't mean this to be a challenge... just a demonstration of the
>> power
>> >of anonymity.. Since I did it all from my personal workstation, I
>> >*might* be traceable by IP address. If I'd gone out to the floor, I
>> >don't think anyone could track me.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Isabel L. Danforth   Reference Librarian, Wethersfield Public Library
>> danforth at tiac.net       http://www.wethersfieldlibrary.org
>>      Coordinator of Librarians' Online Support Team
>>         http://admin.gnacademy.org:8001/~lost/
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
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