From rlcox at uncg.edu Wed Aug 1 07:31:51 2007 From: rlcox at uncg.edu (Richard Cox RLCOX) Date: Wed Aug 1 07:31:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Database Administrator Position Opening, University Libraries, UNCG Message-ID: The University Libraries (http://library.uncg.edu/) at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro (http://www.uncg.edu/) is seeking to fill a vacant position for a Database Administrator. The position will: 1. Architect and develop locally produced enterprise database solutions that are available to a global audience via the Internet 2. Administer local enterprise SQL Server database servers. 3. Maintain and upgrade locally produced enterprise database solutions that are available to a global audience via the Internet. 4. Consult with resource constituents to develop comprehensive, Web-based, database-driven enterprise applications. Enhance user access to Libraries and Libraries-hosted resources. 5. As a member of the Electronic Resources & Information Technology (ERIT) Development Team, the position's duties will include the maintenance and development of existing web applications, as well as the updating of programming and architecture of those applications as needed. 6. Under the supervision of the Digital Technology Consultant the emphasis of this position entails the maintenance, design, and architecture of enterprise database applications, as well as the ongoing administration of numerous Database Servers. We prefer candidates who have: 1. Experience in working with the Microsoft development environment utilizing either ASP or ASP.NET including Visual Basic. 2. Familiarity with Internet Information Server 6 and a working knowledge of SQL Server 2000 or 2005. 3. Experience in building front-end web interfaces including coding XHTML web pages using CSS 2. 4. Experience working in an academic setting or library. 5. An advanced technical degree or certification related to the position. You may apply for the position and get additional information by visiting UNCG's Human Resources web site at http://web.uncg.edu/hrs/employment/spa/ and selecting UNCG-Jobsearch for Applicants You may then search job postings either by position number (3225 ) or Vacant positions (Tech Support Analyst) Richard Digital Technology Consultant Electronic Resources & Information Technology University Libraries, UNC Greensboro http://library.uncg.edu/ From amudrock at yahoo.ca Wed Aug 1 08:19:05 2007 From: amudrock at yahoo.ca (Andy Murdoch) Date: Wed Aug 1 08:19:08 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Developing a thesaurus for portal Message-ID: <456237.70884.qm@web30112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi I just joined the list and coincidentally I have a question for it, too. I an a librarian in a medium sized regional law firm. We have implemented Lawport, which is an intranet portal that uses MS Sharepoint as its base. We've let a system of categories grow organically in the first few months of using the system. The categories act like a thesaurus in that we can organize/control the various postings and documents across the many pages through them. Now the number of terms are getting a little unweildy and we need to mold them in a more systematic way. Has anyone built a thesaurus for a portal from scratch? Any good ideas on where to start? Also, anyone with similar experience in a law library or specialized setting (academic or otherwise) would be ideal. The thesaurus will extend beyond the library to all parts of the portal. I suppose this is more of a KM question, but I know this kind of planning ought to fall within the library's domain. Thanks Andy Murdoch Librarian McInnes Cooper Halifax, NS _____________________________________________________________________________ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail From margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us Wed Aug 1 11:29:26 2007 From: margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us (HAZEL Margaret E) Date: Wed Aug 1 11:29:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] thesaurus for portal & MS wiki app? In-Reply-To: <456237.70884.qm@web30112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <456237.70884.qm@web30112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm interested in your post for two reasons: - The City of which we are a part recently implemented a Plumtree (now BEA) portal, and realized, after the librarians got up in arms, that they needed to work on their search engine, and one of the problems was the thesaurus. There is one, we're not sure if we can edit it, or even what's in it. Or how to decide what to add. We're at least adding keywords to pages, now, not just to documents linked to the site. - The City, being a Microsoft shop, is uninterested in non-Microsoft wiki apps, but think that Sharepoint might work as a wiki. But they don't have it high on their list. Do you or others on the list have experience using Sharepoint as a wiki, and can you talk about pros and cons? Thanks! -Margaret Margaret E. Hazel Principal Librarian, Technology Eugene Public Library Eugene, OR -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Andy Murdoch Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:19 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Developing a thesaurus for portal Hi I just joined the list and coincidentally I have a question for it, too. I an a librarian in a medium sized regional law firm. We have implemented Lawport, which is an intranet portal that uses MS Sharepoint as its base. We've let a system of categories grow organically in the first few months of using the system. The categories act like a thesaurus in that we can organize/control the various postings and documents across the many pages through them. Now the number of terms are getting a little unweildy and we need to mold them in a more systematic way. Has anyone built a thesaurus for a portal from scratch? Any good ideas on where to start? Also, anyone with similar experience in a law library or specialized setting (academic or otherwise) would be ideal. The thesaurus will extend beyond the library to all parts of the portal. I suppose this is more of a KM question, but I know this kind of planning ought to fall within the library's domain. Thanks Andy Murdoch Librarian McInnes Cooper Halifax, NS ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From smeyer at library.wisc.edu Wed Aug 1 11:45:45 2007 From: smeyer at library.wisc.edu (Stephen Meyer) Date: Wed Aug 1 11:45:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting: Metadata Librarian Message-ID: <46B0AAA9.6080203@library.wisc.edu> For a full job description and information on how to apply, see: http://www.ohr.wisc.edu/pvl/pv_057030.html The University of Wisconsin-Madison Libraries seek a creative, experienced, team-oriented professional to serve as Metadata Librarian for the University of Wisconsin Digital Collections Center (UWDCC). Working with UWDCC and other library staff and faculty, the successful candidate will coordinate the formulation and implementation of policies and standards for descriptive, structural, technical, and administrative metadata that are used to support the production and management of, and access to, the Libraries' digital collections. The Metadata Librarian will work with librarians, faculty, and other project partners to determine appropriate methods of developing metadata for the libraries' digital collections, train project participants in all areas of metadata creation, and collaborate with appropriate librarians and working groups locally and nationwide to advise on the application of current and emerging metadata standards to facilitate access to and preservation of digital content. The Metadata Librarian is responsible for planning and overseeing the implementation of UWDCC's metadata strategies, profiling existing standards to meet current needs while also researching emerging standards for potential future adoption. This position will also collaborate in the development of metadata workflow processes; manage metadata entry, quality control, and data exports performed by UWDCC student and other staff; and coordinate production schedules with Reformatting Unit, ensuring efficient and timely workflows to meet project deadlines. The Metadata Librarian will conduct workshops and presentations on UWDCC resources, tools and services to librarians, faculty, and students, and participate in other outreach activities. -- Stephen Meyer Library Application Developer UW-Madison Libraries 312F Memorial Library 728 State St. Madison, WI 53706 smeyer@library.wisc.edu 608-265-2844 (ph) "Just don't let the human factor fail to be a factor at all." - Andrew Bird, "Tables and Chairs" From Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu Wed Aug 1 11:58:13 2007 From: Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu (Karen Harker) Date: Wed Aug 1 12:13:40 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] thesaurus for portal & MS wiki app? In-Reply-To: References: <456237.70884.qm@web30112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46B06812.B74E.0013.0@UTSouthwestern.edu> We're implementing SP as an intranet portal for our Library staff (not the whole campus, which uses Vignette). The "wiki" site is not bad, but it's not as easy to use as the more specialized wiki services, like PBWiki or JotSpot. One very irritating aspect is adding images to a page. You have to first upload the image into the image library, then browse the library and select the image, then copy the URL of the image, then go back to your page to edit it, and enter the URL in the "add image" input box. For image-heavy sites, like for procedures and how-to sites, this can be much more laborious than PBWiki, where the upload function is embedded with the insert image feature. Another aspect that I have not figured out is creating a hierarchical page list. At least in PBWiki, you can fake it by manually creating a list of pages on the sidebar. But I haven't figured out yet how to do the same in SP. I think it won't be hard...at the very least, you can put it on the home page. Overall, though, the SP wiki is decent. It's easy to create and edit pages (aside from the image part) with a WYSIWYG editor. Besides linking, I haven't really used any wiki-syntax, but then I was never really a fan of that. WYSIWYG is much better. Karen R. Harker, MLS, MPH UT Southwestern Medical Library 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Dallas, TX 75390-9049 214-648-8946 http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/library/ >>> On 8/1/07 at 10:29 AM, in message , "HAZEL Margaret E" wrote: I'm interested in your post for two reasons: - The City of which we are a part recently implemented a Plumtree (now BEA) portal, and realized, after the librarians got up in arms, that they needed to work on their search engine, and one of the problems was the thesaurus. There is one, we're not sure if we can edit it, or even what's in it. Or how to decide what to add. We're at least adding keywords to pages, now, not just to documents linked to the site. - The City, being a Microsoft shop, is uninterested in non-Microsoft wiki apps, but think that Sharepoint might work as a wiki. But they don't have it high on their list. Do you or others on the list have experience using Sharepoint as a wiki, and can you talk about pros and cons? Thanks! -Margaret Margaret E. Hazel Principal Librarian, Technology Eugene Public Library Eugene, OR -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Andy Murdoch Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:19 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Developing a thesaurus for portal Hi I just joined the list and coincidentally I have a question for it, too. I an a librarian in a medium sized regional law firm. We have implemented Lawport, which is an intranet portal that uses MS Sharepoint as its base. We've let a system of categories grow organically in the first few months of using the system. The categories act like a thesaurus in that we can organize/control the various postings and documents across the many pages through them. Now the number of terms are getting a little unweildy and we need to mold them in a more systematic way. Has anyone built a thesaurus for a portal from scratch? Any good ideas on where to start? Also, anyone with similar experience in a law library or specialized setting (academic or otherwise) would be ideal. The thesaurus will extend beyond the library to all parts of the portal. I suppose this is more of a KM question, but I know this kind of planning ought to fall within the library's domain. Thanks Andy Murdoch Librarian McInnes Cooper Halifax, NS ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us Wed Aug 1 11:57:52 2007 From: margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us (HAZEL Margaret E) Date: Wed Aug 1 12:14:00 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] interlibrary cooperation - web content In-Reply-To: <1198792c0707311400u31f759e6rcfbbb793befcaadd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0707311359l3fa4e2fcp8cad625d10aa3809@mail.gmail.com> <1198792c0707311400u31f759e6rcfbbb793befcaadd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Are you talking about lists of links, or creating original content, Ray? We are heading in the direction of not making very many lists of links, or creating a lot of original content, unless it is specifically relevant to our locality, and is not being done by someone else. We do provide short lists of links to popular search engines, free email services, and basic web & email tutorials, however, for folks using our in-house internet access PCs. We just don't have the resources to do more, much as (some of) the librarians would like to do so. We refer, professionally, and are very selective in what we add. We have a collection of 500,000 items, and a circ of over 2.5 million a year, 130 FTE. Our current discussions are around creating a virtual branch out of our website. But that will require a reallocation of staffing resources. -Margaret Margaret E. Hazel Principal Librarian, Technology Eugene Public Library Eugene, OR -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:01 PM To: web4lib Subject: [Web4lib] interlibrary cooperation - web content Colleagues, Apologies for cross postings. I'm working on creating content for our website - links with annotations etc. I'm curious to hear of any experiences of librarians sharing actual content - the annotations themselves and the way they are organized. This might lend itself to more efficiency and less reinventing of the wheel. This might be similar to the open source movement, which is facilitating the sharing of technology - web design etc. I'm thinking that librarians within consortia and other library systems may tend to do this more often. Thanks very much. Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From scahilla at baypath.edu Wed Aug 1 15:25:25 2007 From: scahilla at baypath.edu (Sandra Cahillane) Date: Wed Aug 1 15:25:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] right margin won't show Message-ID: Hello all, Thanks to all who've responded to my cries for help. I've got my page looking almost exactly like I want. I have two last tweaks I need to make and that is to get the right margin to 1. not cutoff text on the second level that pops out on mouseover on the left column and 2. figure out how to scroll down the list of links without the page going wacky. To see an example of this, mouse over the Faculty Services link. You can see that some text is cutoff on the right down to a certain point in the list of links to choose from and then the section expands out. I want the section to expand out all the way up. I thought it was an overflow issue but have no overflow tags left to change. Also, when you try to use the mouse roller ball to move down the list the page goes all wacky. I don't know how to solve this problem. I don't want to use overflow: auto or scroll because I don't want another set of scroll bars to show up. Here are the links to the page and style sheet. http://library.baypath.edu/testpages/index-menu.html http://library.baypath.edu/testpages/hatch_main.css Thanks, Sandy Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 From gerrymck at iastate.edu Wed Aug 1 18:19:32 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed Aug 1 18:19:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Brief Survey of Social Networking Sites Presence of College and Research Libraries In-Reply-To: <46B0C060.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46B0C060.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46B0C0A4.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Brief Survey of Social Networking Sites Presence of College and Research Libraries Friends/ For a variety of purposes, I have created a brief 10-question SurveyMonkey survey on the presence of College and Research Libraries in one or more of the more popular Social Networking Sites (Facebook, MySpace, Orkut) I would most appreciate if my Friends (and/or Enemies) [:-)] take this survey within the next 10 days I have embedded the Survey Link within my posting on the survey in my _Friends_ blog [ http://onlinesocialnetworks.blogspot.com/2007/08/library-presence-in-social-networking.html ] The survey requests basic information about library and institutional presence in any of the major Social Networking Sites, as well personal and/or professional membership. The survey should take no longer than 10-15 minutes (15-20 if you*re over 50) [:-) NOTE: Survey Ends on Friday, August 10, 2007 (a week from this Friday) And Feel Free To Spread the Word About The Survey !!! Thanks for participating! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From conal.tuohy at vuw.ac.nz Wed Aug 1 21:02:03 2007 From: conal.tuohy at vuw.ac.nz (Conal Tuohy) Date: Wed Aug 1 21:02:15 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] interlibrary cooperation - web content In-Reply-To: <1198792c0707311400u31f759e6rcfbbb793befcaadd@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0707311359l3fa4e2fcp8cad625d10aa3809@mail.gmail.com> <1198792c0707311400u31f759e6rcfbbb793befcaadd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1186016523.14375.211.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 16:00 -0500, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan wrote: > I'm working on creating content for our website - links with annotations > etc. I'm curious to hear of any experiences of librarians sharing actual > content - the annotations themselves and the way they are organized. Have you considered using Institutional Repository software[1] to do this, Ray? This kind of software is widely used for archiving and cataloguging scholarly publications, and though typically such repositories contain actual content objects (often PDF files and similar), they may also just be metadata associated with external resources; that is to say, annotated links. A notable feature of this family of software products is their universal support for the Open Archive Initiative's Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (OAI-PMH), which they use to exchange this bibliographic (or webliographic) metadata in Dublin Core format. [2] Finally there is software available (for example, the open source "PKP Harvester"[3]) which will aggregate metadata from a number of repositories and allow it to be browsed and searched, and republished as RSS and OAI-PMH.[4] > This might lend itself to more efficiency and less reinventing of the > wheel. This might be similar to the open source movement, which is > facilitating the sharing of technology - web design etc. Also cf the "Open Access" movement in scholarly publishing.[5] Cheers! Con 1] Institutional repository software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Institutional_repository_software 2] Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting http://www.openarchives.org/pmh/ 3] Open Archives Harvester | Public Knowledge Project http://pkp.sfu.ca/?q=harvester 4] Exploiting "Light-weight" Protocols and Open Source Tools to Implement Digital Library Collections and Services http://www.dlib.org/dlib/october05/morgan/10morgan.html 5] Open access http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_access From sri_lib at yahoo.com Thu Aug 2 03:13:48 2007 From: sri_lib at yahoo.com (sri priya) Date: Thu Aug 2 03:14:48 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] IRISS conference Proceedings & some useful Links Message-ID: <205273.48824.qm@web57007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> The IRISS conference brought together social scientists who are interested in the Internet, either as a means of supporting and enhancing their work, or as a focus for their research and is based on the three themes of skills, sites and social effects. Full Conference Proceedings available: Links: http://www.intute.ac.uk/socialsciences/archive/iriss/ a Journals: http://dmoz.org/Reference/Libraries/Library_and_Information_Science/Journals/ Library Software: http://dmoz.org/Reference/Libraries/Library_and_Information_Science/Software/ A global directory of library home pages: http://lists.webjunction.org/libweb/ Regards, S.Sripriya --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! From infoscience1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 16:12:53 2007 From: infoscience1 at gmail.com (Raumin "Ray" Dehghan) Date: Thu Aug 2 16:12:56 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] presentations - google docs/apps In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708021311y7bd987aaw5698082b5d81f5cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708021311y7bd987aaw5698082b5d81f5cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1198792c0708021312j68acd446oc8009a6298c3588@mail.gmail.com> Greetings, Would anybody have experiences or resources related to giving presentations to their library on the advantages of implementing Google docs or Google apps? Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois From scahilla at baypath.edu Thu Aug 2 16:51:32 2007 From: scahilla at baypath.edu (Sandra Cahillane) Date: Thu Aug 2 16:51:38 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] book covers for sirsi unicorn webcat Message-ID: Hello all, I'm trying to find out if we can purchase or use book cover images that will work with webcat. That's really the only upgrade we want. We probably wouldn't upgrade to ilink if we could get book covers to show in webcat. Does anyone know a work-around for this? Thanks, Sandy Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 From fostersm1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 20:54:29 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Thu Aug 2 20:54:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] seriously mundane questions Message-ID: <4c5c30910708021754x28210c51x28d9aed400c15eb4@mail.gmail.com> 1. Is anyone using the new Google CSE as their library website's search engine? Do you have any control over when it indexes your site, or do you just have to wait for Google to do its thing? Or any I missing something? We have the "original" Google CSE, but our site hasn't been re-indexed for quite a long time, and no one knows who owns the account that set up the CSE. I looked at the new CSE, but it doesn't look like I would have much control over what it does or when it does it. I'm thinking of using FreeFind instead. 2. (this is a school question) I recently completed a course in Digital Libraries, and it seems to me from my reading that most of the standard (non-specialized) search engines do not look at any of the fancy metadata--Dublin Core, DOAP, etc.--schemas they we used in our projects. They only look at Description and Keywords (sometimes not even those) and the actual page content. Is this your understanding as well, or did I once again miss something? Thanks for all your help. Listening in on this list is the real education. Sharon -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.5 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From araby at unr.edu Thu Aug 2 22:45:32 2007 From: araby at unr.edu (Araby Y Greene) Date: Thu Aug 2 22:46:19 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] seriously mundane questions References: <4c5c30910708021754x28210c51x28d9aed400c15eb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7DFCFF4D7D728742B3EC03BB1216C48A01697578@UNRX.unr.edu> 1. Yes, we're using Google CSE as our library's search engine. It sometimes takes up to 3 weeks to re-crawl the site, but I have not actually documented the intervals. If you take the trouble to create an XML file for Google Sitemaps, crawling might be more predictable. 2. True. You can blame it on SEO weasels who have abused meta tags to manipulate search engine placement. Descriptions seem to show up in Google entries, although theoretically they are ignored. It's important to keep the description and keywords around 150 characters, and not over 250 characters. Once the wrath of the Googlebot is incurred, a site can be in indexing limbo for a long time. None of the big search engines care about D.C., but it has other uses. -araby __________________________________ Araby Greene Web Development Librarian Getchell Library/322 University of Nevada, Reno http://www.library.unr.edu ________________________________ From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Sharon Foster Sent: Thu 8/2/2007 5:54 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] seriously mundane questions 1. Is anyone using the new Google CSE as their library website's search engine? Do you have any control over when it indexes your site, or do you just have to wait for Google to do its thing? Or any I missing something? We have the "original" Google CSE, but our site hasn't been re-indexed for quite a long time, and no one knows who owns the account that set up the CSE. I looked at the new CSE, but it doesn't look like I would have much control over what it does or when it does it. I'm thinking of using FreeFind instead. 2. (this is a school question) I recently completed a course in Digital Libraries, and it seems to me from my reading that most of the standard (non-specialized) search engines do not look at any of the fancy metadata--Dublin Core, DOAP, etc.--schemas they we used in our projects. They only look at Description and Keywords (sometimes not even those) and the actual page content. Is this your understanding as well, or did I once again miss something? Thanks for all your help. Listening in on this list is the real education. Sharon -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.5 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From EAH0116 at ecu.edu Fri Aug 3 05:28:19 2007 From: EAH0116 at ecu.edu (Hirst, Edward Alan) Date: Fri Aug 3 05:28:23 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2 References: <20070802160009.2DFAC189AEE@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <692A06C6C9175146AC226FBF6E5D8FBDD112E9@ecust3.intra.ecu.edu> Hi Sandra, Looks to me like you need to make the nav ul a bit wider. It's at 225px now, make it 235px and see what that does. Then you can adjust up or down until it looks the way you want it. ed Edward Hirst Information Technology Librarian Rowan Public Library http://www.rowanpubliclibrary.org Salisbury, NC Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:25:25 -0400 From: Sandra Cahillane Subject: [Web4lib] right margin won't show To: web4lib@webjunction.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello all, Thanks to all who've responded to my cries for help. I've got my page looking almost exactly like I want. I have two last tweaks I need to make and that is to get the right margin to 1. not cutoff text on the second level that pops out on mouseover on the left column and 2. figure out how to scroll down the list of links without the page going wacky. To see an example of this, mouse over the Faculty Services link. You can see that some text is cutoff on the right down to a certain point in the list of links to choose from and then the section expands out. I want the section to expand out all the way up. I thought it was an overflow issue but have no overflow tags left to change. Also, when you try to use the mouse roller ball to move down the list the page goes all wacky. I don't know how to solve this problem. I don't want to use overflow: auto or scroll because I don't want another set of scroll bars to show up. Here are the links to the page and style sheet. http://library.baypath.edu/testpages/index-menu.html http://library.baypath.edu/testpages/hatch_main.css Thanks, Sandy Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ End of Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2 ************************************** From jarson at muhlenberg.edu Fri Aug 3 08:31:44 2007 From: jarson at muhlenberg.edu (Jennifer Jarson) Date: Fri Aug 3 08:32:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] job opening: Head, Library Systems and Information Transfer Services Message-ID: Apologies for cross-posting. Head, Library Systems and Information Transfer Services (LSITS) Muhlenberg College Allentown, PA FT position managing the LSITS team providing services for access, linking, and digital initiatives. Master?s degree from an ALA-accredited program and four years library systems (III Millennium) and automation experience in an academic library, or equivalent, required. Experience managing personnel, webdesign projects, and knowledge of OCLC products essential. Knowledge of industry standards, policy and planning development, and academic library settings preferred. View job description at http://jobs.muhlenberg.edu. To apply, send letter of interest, resume, and 3 references to Joyce Hommel, Director, Trexler Library, Muhlenberg College, Allentown, PA 18104. Electronic applications accepted at jhommel@muhlenberg.edu. E.O.E. From dcs26 at drexel.edu Fri Aug 3 08:43:54 2007 From: dcs26 at drexel.edu (Schwartz,Dorothy) Date: Fri Aug 3 08:44:29 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Opening: Head, Information Services (Search Re-opened) Drexel University Hagerty Library Message-ID: Dorothy ________________________________ From: Schwartz,Dorothy Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:43 AM To: 'PALINET Main ListServ' Subject: Job Opening: Head, Information Services (Search Re-opened) Drexel University Hagerty Library Drexel University Libraries are seeking a highly-motivated, service-oriented individual to serve as Head of Information Services at W. W. Hagerty Library. The successful candidate will lead and manage W.W. Hagerty Library's Information Services Department, which is responsible for reference service, research consultations, instructional programs, outreach, faculty liaison, web development, and collection development in all areas except health sciences and law. We are looking for an individual with a mentoring leadership style that empowers others to excel. The Head of Information Services supervises seven professional staff, two support staff, and several part-time staff. He/she reports to the Director of Libraries, and is a key member of the Library's senior management team team and will help formulate future library directions and priorities during a time of change, both within the Drexel community and the profession as a whole. Drexel University, a pioneer in the use of technology in higher education, is an accredited private non-profit institution located in the city of Philadelphia, which offers undergraduate and/or graduate education in arts and sciences, education, engineering, business, information science, media arts, medicine, nursing, and public health. The student population numbers more than 19,000. Most undergraduates participate in the co-operative education program and combine work with academics over a five-year college career. The Drexel University Libraries offer services at three facilities: Hahnemann Library in Center City and the Queen Lane Library primarily serve students, faculty, and staff in the Schools of Medicine, Nursing, and Public Health, while the Hagerty Library in University City primarily serves the other colleges. Drexel is noted for its strong and extensive electronic book and journal collections. The library staff consists of 32 professionals and 28 support staff. For complete job description and to apply, please go to www.drexeljobs.com , search on job title "Head, Information Services" From richard.wiggins at gmail.com Fri Aug 3 09:21:59 2007 From: richard.wiggins at gmail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Fri Aug 3 09:22:03 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] seriously mundane questions In-Reply-To: <7DFCFF4D7D728742B3EC03BB1216C48A01697578@UNRX.unr.edu> References: <4c5c30910708021754x28210c51x28d9aed400c15eb4@mail.gmail.com> <7DFCFF4D7D728742B3EC03BB1216C48A01697578@UNRX.unr.edu> Message-ID: The conventional wisdom is that Google ignores Meta Keywords, and a Google official has confirmed this in public. For some reason people extrapolate from this that Meta Description is ignored. This is not true. Recently for some reason www.msu.edu/ lost its Meta Description. Without it, the abstract on the SERP was random, chosen based on what happened to be on the home page. When we restored our Meta Description, the abstract once again exactly matched. It's great fun, you type it into your page, and Google magically shows what you typed the next time it crawls.. To see for yourself, search for: michigan state university What you'll see on the results page is: *Michigan State University*: Advancing Knowledge. Transforming Lives. * MSU's* teaching and research serve *Michigan*, the nation, and the world. Est. 1855. This exactly matches our Meta Description. I checked a number of large universities and found that of those who use the Meta Description, only about the first 150 characters show on the Google SERP. So ours is 149. As for Meta Keywords, I don't think it hurts to put them in, whether Google ignores them or not. /rich On 8/2/07, Araby Y Greene wrote: > > > 2. True. You can blame it on SEO weasels who have abused meta tags to > manipulate search engine placement. Descriptions seem to show up in Google > entries, although theoretically they are ignored. It's important to keep the > description and keywords around 150 characters, and not over 250 characters. > Once the wrath of the Googlebot is incurred, a site can be in indexing limbo > for a long time. None of the big search engines care about D.C., but it > has other uses. > > -araby > > __________________________________ > Araby Greene > Web Development Librarian > Getchell Library/322 > University of Nevada, Reno > http://www.library.unr.edu > > > ________________________________ > > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Sharon Foster > Sent: Thu 8/2/2007 5:54 PM > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] seriously mundane questions > > > > 1. Is anyone using the new Google CSE as their library website's > search engine? Do you have any control over when it indexes your site, > or do you just have to wait for Google to do its thing? Or any I > missing something? We have the "original" Google CSE, but our site > hasn't been re-indexed for quite a long time, and no one knows who > owns the account that set up the CSE. I looked at the new CSE, but it > doesn't look like I would have much control over what it does or when > it does it. I'm thinking of using FreeFind instead. > > 2. (this is a school question) I recently completed a course in > Digital Libraries, and it seems to me from my reading that most of the > standard (non-specialized) search engines do not look at any of the > fancy metadata--Dublin Core, DOAP, etc.--schemas they we used in our > projects. They only look at Description and Keywords (sometimes not > even those) and the actual page content. Is this your understanding as > well, or did I once again miss something? > > Thanks for all your help. Listening in on this list is the real education. > > Sharon > -- > Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.5 * (MLS) > F/OSS Evangelist > Cheshire Public Library > 104 Main Street > Cheshire, CT 06410 > http://www.cheshirelibrary.org > My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ > My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: > http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 > > Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From wkurt at bbn.com Fri Aug 3 11:43:15 2007 From: wkurt at bbn.com (Will Kurt) Date: Fri Aug 3 11:44:35 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Not Guybrarians? Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20070803113128.06a002a8@bbn.com> Knowing that some of you out there are probably Penny-Arcade fans, and that the NYT's use of the term "guybrarian'' caused a fair amount of discussion here, I figured today's PA comic would get some laughs as well as stir up some controversy (all of which can be good on a Friday): http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070803.jpg Either way more pr for librarians! -Will From margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us Fri Aug 3 12:43:19 2007 From: margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us (HAZEL Margaret E) Date: Fri Aug 3 12:47:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Not Guybrarians? In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20070803113128.06a002a8@bbn.com> References: <7.0.0.16.2.20070803113128.06a002a8@bbn.com> Message-ID: Ha, I'll take "sorceress", and the guys can be called "librarians"! ;-) -Margaret -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Will Kurt Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:43 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Not Guybrarians? Knowing that some of you out there are probably Penny-Arcade fans, and that the NYT's use of the term "guybrarian'' caused a fair amount of discussion here, I figured today's PA comic would get some laughs as well as stir up some controversy (all of which can be good on a Friday): http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070803.jpg Either way more pr for librarians! -Will _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From KWBrown at gwm.sc.edu Fri Aug 3 13:30:16 2007 From: KWBrown at gwm.sc.edu (Karen Brown) Date: Fri Aug 3 13:37:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Re: Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3 Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Friday, 8/3 and will not be back until Monday, 8/13. If you need immediate assistance please call the reference desk at 803-777-4267. From markus_wust at ncsu.edu Fri Aug 3 13:38:01 2007 From: markus_wust at ncsu.edu (Markus Wust) Date: Fri Aug 3 13:46:42 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Using IM applications to send and receive SMS Message-ID: <46B367F9.6090606@ncsu.edu> Dear all, does anybody know of a good solution for receiving and sending SMS from an instant messaging application? I was thinking about using a PC together with a GSM or EDGE modem for desktop-based text messaging, but am not sure how I can use IM apps for text messaging so that users do not have to use two separate interfaces for IM and SMS. Thank you, Markus Wust From emcaulay at library.ucla.edu Fri Aug 3 14:35:34 2007 From: emcaulay at library.ucla.edu (McAulay, Elizabeth) Date: Fri Aug 3 14:35:35 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Open: Digital Library Programming Team Leader and System Architect - UCLA Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, The UCLA Library has reopened its search for the Digital Library Programming Team Leader and System Architect (Programmer/Analyst IV) in Library Information Technology. This position leads development of digital asset management systems for all formats, including text, images, audio and video. Salary will be within the range $63,120 - $113,544 per annum Current development activities include a local system based on Oracle 10g, Java (including Struts, JSP, and JSTL), XML, and related technologies. Systems are being developed to manage digital object ingest and management, web delivery services, digital preservation, and metadata transformations. The Digital Library Architect also leads the development of open source solutions for digital asset management, including a learning object repository based upon DSpace repository software and OAI-based services, including data harvester, data provider, and a service provider. Future projects are anticipated to support learning and research activities across the University. The Digital Library Architect will be aware of and involved in standards and technologies relating to digital asset management and delivery, Digital Library services, standards for digital asset exchange, and digital technologies that support learning and research. The DL Architect works with staff within the Digital Library Program to set priorities and technical development goals to support local digital library infrastructure needs. The DL Architect also works with other campus groups--such as the Center for the Digital Humanities and Academic Technology Services--on cooperative projects and with the California Digital Library on projects across the University of California system, including data exchange between UCLA and CDL's Digital Preservation Repository. The DL Architect heads a development team of two full-time programmers, and, as funding permits, one or two additional grant-funded programmers. The DL Architect reports to the Head of Library Information Technology. LIT is a unit of approximately 25 people, responsible for the systems development and operations for all of the Libraries at UCLA. Systems include both custom-built and purchased applications for both web and client server systems. The infrastructure includes approximately 1000 workstations, 65 servers with over 100 terabyte SANs supporting applications used worldwide via the Internet. This is an unofficial job description. For the official announcement, and to apply for this position, visit: http://www2.library.ucla.edu/about/5363.cfm For more information about this position contact: Stephen Schwartz, Head of Library Information Technology shs@library.ucla.edu or Stephen Davison, Head of the UCLA Digital Library Program. sdavison@library.ucla.edu UCLA Digital Library collections website: http://digital.library.ucla.edu Best regards, Lisa Elizabeth "Lisa" McAulay Librarian for Digital Collection Development Digital Library Program UCLA Library 390 Powell Library Building Box 957201 Los Angeles, CA 90095-7201 (310) 825-7657 email: emcaulay@library.ucla.edu From johnsts at stolaf.edu Fri Aug 3 15:09:54 2007 From: johnsts at stolaf.edu (Sarah Johnston) Date: Fri Aug 3 15:09:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Opening: Head for Library Circulation and Interlibrary Loan Message-ID: <46B37D82.4030503@stolaf.edu> The St. Olaf College Libraries have an opening for the Head of Circulation & Interlibrary Loan. The Head of Circulation and Interlibrary loan (a) plans, organizes, and oversees the libraries' circulation and interlibrary loan operation and (b) serves as the point person for space planning and the use and care of Rolvaag's collection. Leads the staff in circulation and interlibrary loan in evaluating, improving, and streamlining their work. Establishes benchmarks for the department and its staff, evaluates performance, designs and improves workflow, and measures progress on high-priority projects. Identifies and implements new technologies. Serves with other departmental heads on the libraries' administrative council and advocates for the needs of faculty, students, departmental staff, and the library and college as a whole. Actively contributes to library-wide planning, policy-making, goal-setting and the development of new services and initiatives. Works with counterparts at Carleton College to develop consortial initiatives, and to manage and improve the shared library system. Supports the College Librarian in vetting new ideas, initiatives, and strategic plans. Works alongside staff in the circulation and interlibrary loan to run day-to-day operations. Salary: Minimum $47,000 - DOQ To apply, please visit http://jobs.stolaf.edu -- Sarah Johnston Head of Technical Services & Systems Rolvaag Library, Room 303 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 507.786.3771 johnsts@stolaf.edu From pxia at CRL.EDU Fri Aug 3 17:45:01 2007 From: pxia at CRL.EDU (Patricia Xia) Date: Fri Aug 3 17:45:33 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position opening: web and digital library specialist Message-ID: <9E612AEEF6ADB74A8690EC3F91B79C84D2E201@crlexchange.LAN_DOMAIN.EDU> WEB AND DIGITAL LIBRARY SPECIALIST The Center for Research Libraries is a consortium of more than 200 leading U.S. and Canadian academic and research libraries based adjacent to the University of Chicago's Hyde Park campus. Working under the direction of the Director of Information Systems, the candidate selected will design, develop and implement Web enabled solutions for grant and non-grant funded projects and provide technical expertise to support digital conversion and delivery projects. In addition to determine specifications, developing and implementing new or enhanced Web applications, the position is also responsible for maintaining and updating existing Web applications and support a robust Web hosting environment. Digital delivery accountability includes participate in hardware/software evaluations, testing and implementing scan and post processing strategies, inspecting the quality of scans from in-house and out-sources productions, monitoring the performance of digital conversion equipment and contacting system vendor for problem resolution and upgrades. Essential Duties: ? Develops and updates web applications with both static and dynamic database driven contents. ? Conducts interface design, integration and customization of Web applications and products acquired from third party. ? Ascertains requirements, designs, codes and implements new or enhanced applications. ? Develops templates and other tools needed to facilitate staff contribution of web contents. ? Assists with site wide contents updates, clean-up and data maintenance. ? Monitors, modifies and troubleshoots existing Web applications. ? Assists member institutions in developing best practice and optimize access to CRL Web resources. ? Sets-up and maintains problem and activity log. ? Researches digital conversion hardware/soft ware products and best practices in the field. ? Inspect the quality of scans produced internally and externally. ? Depending on assignments, may be required to coordinate the work of others. Experience: We are seek a creative and talented IT professional with a minimum of two years post academic experience programming web enabled applications, with some start to finish project responsibility. Experience must also include at least one year of relational database development. Prior work experience with digital conversion and integrated library systems is strongly preferred. Skills & Education: ? Solid skill in web development, proficient in HTML, CSS, DHML, XML and Web authoring tools, such as Dreamweaver. ? Proficient in at least one programming languages used in Web CGI and one scripting languages, such as ASP, Perl, PhP, ColdFusion, Java script. ? Knowledge and ability to build complex SQL queries against relational database. ? Broad knowledge of digital conversion activities and associated standards and technologies ? Demonstrated capacity of developing documentation and training material ? Knowledge and experience in UNIX/Linux administration strongly preferred ? Bachelor degree in Computer Science or related field, or equivalent experience is required. An MLIS, course work or seminars pertaining to digitization and Web development are preferred. The Center offers competitive salary an exceptional benefits package and a dynamic, quality driven work atmosphere. Forward resumes in Word format to: kibort@crl.edu CENTER FOR RESEARCH LIBRARIES 6050 S Kenwood Chicago, Illinois 60660 From swashburn at techsoup.org Fri Aug 3 18:35:27 2007 From: swashburn at techsoup.org (Sarah Washburn) Date: Fri Aug 3 18:35:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] laptop security Message-ID: <411437810651EC42B86228A4139DF4F60335F4C8@cmexch.compumentor.org> Hello, I work on The MaintainIT Project, spotlighting public libraries that are doing smart, interesting, and cool things to keep computers available to the public. We work hard to promote their stories so that libraries can learn from the experiences of others. A lot of libraries are trying to figure out how to secure their laptops, and I'm wondering if anyone on this list would share how your library does it. Some use barcodes, but many don't have the financial means to set up such a system. How do you do it? Please get in touch with me-off-list or on-and share how you do it. Other libraries would love to know how your library keeps them from walking out the door... Thanks for your help, -sarah swashburn at techsoup dot org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sarah Washburn The MaintainIT Project at TechSoup --> find out the latest at http://maintainitproject.org/blog From ndgmtlcd at yahoo.com Fri Aug 3 19:49:10 2007 From: ndgmtlcd at yahoo.com (Alain D. M. G. Vaillancourt) Date: Fri Aug 3 19:49:15 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Not Guybrarians? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <912694.8317.qm@web50111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'll take LIBRATORR anytime, as long as I can have a secret identity, or vice-versa. --- HAZEL Margaret E a ?crit?: > Ha, I'll take "sorceress", and the guys can be called "librarians"! > ;-) > -Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Will Kurt > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:43 AM > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Not Guybrarians? > > Knowing that some of you out there are probably Penny-Arcade fans, > and > that the NYT's use of the term "guybrarian'' caused a fair amount of > discussion here, I figured today's PA comic would get some laughs as > well as stir up some controversy (all of which can be good on a > Friday): > > http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070803.jpg > > Either way more pr for librarians! > > -Will > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > Le tout nouveau Yahoo! Courriel. Consultez vos fils RSS depuis votre bo?te de r?ception. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=cf From jomireyn3 at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 09:14:54 2007 From: jomireyn3 at gmail.com (John Reynolds) Date: Mon Aug 6 09:14:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Headphone for Library Internet use. In-Reply-To: <9361FF6DA66FD34FB64CD5C6589BFD0C04DF92C7@citp1mx03.city.wdm.loc> References: <9361FF6DA66FD34FB64CD5C6589BFD0C04DF92C5@citp1mx03.city.wdm.loc> <8654BD7CD94689439F96DEE02E19BD3302D01F88@pitmail.PIT.edu> <9361FF6DA66FD34FB64CD5C6589BFD0C04DF92C7@citp1mx03.city.wdm.loc> Message-ID: Our "Friends of the Library" group buys them for 99 cents at Big Lots or someplace like that and we sell them for $1.50, as part of their fund raising - we sell a couple dozen a week. I'm at a large regional library, which is always very busy. We used to have inexpensive ones that we checked out but they regularly disappeared and the ones that didn't disappear got fairly disgusting after a while - I'm not very squeamish, but I wouldn't have put those things on my head. On 7/30/07, Louise Alcorn wrote: > > Lynea wrote: > 3. Our IT office ordered computers with headphone jacks only in the > back, so students were constantly moving the CPUs to access the jack and > in the process, unplugging other cables. That meant we were regularly > hearing "this computer doesn't work." > > This was a major problem for us, too, with our old machines. We were > lucky that the ones we just installed in February all have front jacks. > I was considering doing exactly what Lynea did if we'd gone on much > longer with the jack-in-back PC's - it was driving me crazy to be > constantly moving PC's back into place and re-attaching cords. Plus the > USB ports were back there (we had *really* old machines). > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Louise E. Alcorn > Reference Technology Librarian > West Des Moines Public Library > 4000 Mills Civic Pkwy > West Des Moines IA 50265 > (515) 222-3573 louise.alcorn@wdm-ia.com > http://www.wdmlibrary.org > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From Tracy.Seneca at ucop.edu Mon Aug 6 14:39:58 2007 From: Tracy.Seneca at ucop.edu (Tracy Seneca) Date: Mon Aug 6 14:40:11 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting: Web Archiving Software Programmer Message-ID: <2C5A3EEFD5A6FF44B9B6A6B280A5ADF9018AD701@EXCHANGEMAIL.AD.UCOP.EDU> Web Archiving Software Programmer California Digital Library, University of California Office of the President http://jobs.ucop.edu/ Job #: 20070348 Close Date: August 23, 2007 TO APPLY: For a complete job description or to apply for this position, see: https://jobs.ucop.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=51882 The Web-At-Risk: Preserving Our Nation's Cultural Heritage Help save the web! Libraries are currently struggling to save crucial publications that disappear from the web before they can be archived for researchers and the general public. The California Digital Library has an open Web Archiving Software Programmer position on "The Web-at-Risk" project to develop tools to capture, analyze and preserve web sites. This is an exciting national grant effort working with a creative team of developers at the California Digital Library, New York University and the University of North Texas. The Web Archiving Service is a Java application with a Ruby on Rails front-end that enables non-expert users to capture government and political information from the web for use by researchers and libraries. While work is well underway, there are some interesting problems ahead to work on, including developing end-user access to large web archives. We're looking for people with strong Java skills, particularly those interested in working with an integrated Java/Ruby application. Experience with web crawling and open-source projects would be great additional skills. The California Digital Library (CDL) is a collaborative effort of the ten University of California campuses for the design, creation, and implementation of innovative systems that support the research, learning, and teaching of the UC system and its partners. The CDL assumes a leadership role in providing digital content to the citizens of the state, develops systems that encourage resource sharing, and provides for a focus for the development of strategies and initiatives that guide the University's libraries through the transition to the digital future. The University of California (UC), one of the largest and most acclaimed institutions of higher learning in the world, is dedicated to excellence in teaching, research and public service. The UC Office of the President is the corporate headquarters to the ten campuses, five medical centers and two Department of Energy National Labs and enrolls premier students from California, the nation, and the world. University benefits include medical, dental and vision insurance effective on the first day of employment, a generous sick, vacation and paid holiday program, an excellent retirement savings and investment plan, and more. To apply for this position, please be prepared to attach your resume and cover letter as part of the application process. HOW TO APPLY: For a complete job description or to apply for this position, see: https://jobs.ucop.edu/applicants/Central?quickFind=51882 For further information about the project, see: http://www.cdlib.org/inside/projects/preservation/webatrisk/ From gerrymck at iastate.edu Mon Aug 6 16:13:54 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Mon Aug 6 16:14:28 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] LibraryJobs-STM: Facebook Group for Science/Technical/Medical Vacancies References: <46B739E1020000670000F920@staff2.lib.iastate.edu> <46B73AB2020000670000F925@staff2.lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46B73AB2.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Friends/ I have created a Group in Facebook called **LibraryJobs-STM*** LibraryJobs-STM is a global Facebook Group that is intended to serve as a BulletinBoard on which Job Vacancies in Science/Technical/Medical can be posted.* LibraryJobs-STM is located at [ http://iastate.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2364024568 ] !!! Please consider joining and posting Any/All current S-T-M Position Vacancies !!! Thanks! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us Mon Aug 6 19:08:23 2007 From: Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us (Bret Parker) Date: Mon Aug 6 19:08:21 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for the Macintosh? Message-ID: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows them to run Windows programs? Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this operation? Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton-San Joaquin County Public Library 605 N. El Dorado St Stockton, CA 95202 bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us (209) 937-7148 http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us Stockton Reads! From margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us Mon Aug 6 19:20:14 2007 From: margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us (HAZEL Margaret E) Date: Mon Aug 6 19:20:39 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> Message-ID: Or for Overdrive media? -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bret Parker Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:08 PM To: Web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows them to run Windows programs? Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this operation? Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton-San Joaquin County Public Library 605 N. El Dorado St Stockton, CA 95202 bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us (209) 937-7148 http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us Stockton Reads! _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From beanworks at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 19:32:14 2007 From: beanworks at gmail.com (Carol Bean) Date: Mon Aug 6 19:32:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for the Macintosh? In-Reply-To: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> Message-ID: On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Bret Parker wrote: > We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able > to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. > > I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that > NetLibrary and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows > Media Player and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... > > What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows > them to run Windows programs? > > Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows > Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would > be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the > file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an > insider's view of this operation? Yeah, they could set up an intel Mac to run Windows as well as OSX, and download audiobooks there. But they'd have to have an MP3 player that met the audiobook requirements in order to make it portable. I don't know many (well, none, actually) Mac users who will choose an MP3 in addition to an iPod (or instead of an iPod). But yeah, it could be done... Carol Bean beanworks.wordpress.com From snb at uoregon.edu Mon Aug 6 19:41:58 2007 From: snb at uoregon.edu (Sara Brownmiller) Date: Mon Aug 6 19:51:11 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases In-Reply-To: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform as expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that might provide an answer. thanks, Sara -- Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) From fostersm1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 6 20:02:30 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Mon Aug 6 20:02:36 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases In-Reply-To: <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> References: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <4c5c30910708061702pccdd44dm1b95248ba5512ec1@mail.gmail.com> At the risk of starting a religious war ;-) I do install Firefox on the staff Windows computers, and I remove IE from the desktop and the Start menu and ask staff not to use it. Firefox has a better record overall on security and virus issues, it has more features and free plug-ins, and since it is open source, I expect that it will continue to be more responsive to needed changes than will IE. I do the same for the public Windows computers, and the remainder of the staff and public computers are Macs. (I didn't have to worry about IE on the Macs until last week's news.) On 8/6/07, Sara Brownmiller wrote: > We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing > whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer > Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically > offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the > major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform as > expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good > performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that > specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? > > I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that might > provide an answer. > > thanks, Sara > > -- > > > Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon Libraries > Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of Oregon > Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 > snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.5 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From lbspodic at ust.hk Mon Aug 6 21:05:21 2007 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick) Date: Mon Aug 6 21:25:53 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for the Macintosh? In-Reply-To: References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> Message-ID: At 7:32 PM -0400 8/6/07, Carol Bean wrote: >On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Bret Parker wrote: > >>We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. >> >>I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... >> >>What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows them to run Windows programs? >> >>Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this operation? > >Yeah, they could set up an intel Mac to run Windows as well as OSX, and download audiobooks there. But they'd have to have an MP3 player that met the audiobook requirements in order to make it portable. I don't know many (well, none, actually) Mac users who will choose an MP3 in addition to an iPod (or instead of an iPod). But yeah, it could be done... > >Carol Bean >beanworks.wordpress.com As a systems person, I would do it for testing. As a Mac *user*, I would certainly not bother, nor would I be willing to spend so much money to do so - Virtualization software license (possibly no cost), Windows OS license, MP3 player which is currently compatible, new MP3 player next year or the year after to maintain compatibility, etc. Of course, a similar problem arises with some iTunes store files - or at least it would if the iTunes store was even available here. :) Basically, I have given up on using digitally restricted media for my personal needs. -- Edward F Spodick, Information Technology Manager Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library lbspodic@ust.hk tel:852-2358-6743 fax:852-2358-1043 From dpapin at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 08:49:50 2007 From: dpapin at gmail.com (Dominique Papin) Date: Tue Aug 7 08:53:07 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Federated search with database suggestion Message-ID: <36adb6110708070549r6b63beb2o489593a9a449c2d1@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone I'm turning to this group of librarian brains to find something I've seen before but I can't seem to get my hands on it again. I've seen a library page offering a federated search. After the search was sent, while the results were being found, i believe there was suggestion of other(?) databases related to the keywords entered, offering users to move on to the page of those db to do more precise search. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Thanks Dominique From dorman at indexdata.com Tue Aug 7 09:28:42 2007 From: dorman at indexdata.com (David Dorman) Date: Tue Aug 7 09:29:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Federated search with database suggestion In-Reply-To: <36adb6110708070549r6b63beb2o489593a9a449c2d1@mail.gmail.co m> References: <36adb6110708070549r6b63beb2o489593a9a449c2d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200708071328.l77DSu7l029111@courier2.wesleyan.edu> At 08:49 AM 08/07/2007, Dominique Papin wrote: >Hello everyone > >I'm turning to this group of librarian brains to find something I've seen >before but I can't seem to get my hands on it again. > >I've seen a library page offering a federated search. After the search was >sent, while the results were being found, i believe there was suggestion of >other(?) databases related to the keywords entered, offering users to move >on to the page of those db to do more precise search. > >Anyone know what I'm talking about? Are you referring to Index Data's MasterKey federated search at http://masterkey.indexdata.com? David >Thanks > >Dominique >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ David Dorman US Marketing Manager, Index Data 52 Whitman Ave. West Hartford, Connecticut 06107 dorman@indexdata.com 860-389-1568 or toll free 866-489-1568 fax: 860-561-5613 INDEX DATA Means Business for Open Source and Open Standards - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.indexdata.com From dpapin at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 09:34:26 2007 From: dpapin at gmail.com (Dominique Papin) Date: Tue Aug 7 09:34:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Federated search with database suggestion In-Reply-To: <200708071328.l77DSu7l029111@courier2.wesleyan.edu> References: <36adb6110708070549r6b63beb2o489593a9a449c2d1@mail.gmail.com> <200708071328.l77DSu7l029111@courier2.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: <36adb6110708070634u4640c81au11ac919027c5b461@mail.gmail.com> This is an interesting federated search engine, but not what i'm looking for. It was actually on a library website (I'm guessing academic). What i understood is the suggestion of databases was not from the results themselves but from the keywords entered to do the search (i'm guessing a parallel search with those keywords within the list of db description) 2007/8/7, David Dorman : > > At 08:49 AM 08/07/2007, Dominique Papin wrote: > >Hello everyone > > > >I'm turning to this group of librarian brains to find something I've seen > >before but I can't seem to get my hands on it again. > > > >I've seen a library page offering a federated search. After the search > was > >sent, while the results were being found, i believe there was suggestion > of > >other(?) databases related to the keywords entered, offering users to > move > >on to the page of those db to do more precise search. > > > >Anyone know what I'm talking about? > > Are you referring to Index Data's MasterKey federated search at > http://masterkey.indexdata.com? > > David > > > >Thanks > > > >Dominique > >_______________________________________________ > >Web4lib mailing list > >Web4lib@webjunction.org > >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > David Dorman > US Marketing Manager, Index Data > 52 Whitman Ave. > West Hartford, Connecticut 06107 > dorman@indexdata.com > 860-389-1568 or toll free 866-489-1568 > fax: 860-561-5613 > > INDEX DATA Means Business > for Open Source and Open Standards > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > www.indexdata.com > > From kdevine at euclidlibrary.org Tue Aug 7 10:19:24 2007 From: kdevine at euclidlibrary.org (Kevin Devine) Date: Tue Aug 7 10:19:27 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for the Macintosh? In-Reply-To: References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> Message-ID: <46B87F6C.3060300@euclidlibrary.org> Or you can download Windows Media Player for the Mac... http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=windowsmedia The Quicktime plug-in doesn't support DRM'ed Windows Media files, but WMP9 for Mac does. Thank you, Kevin Devine Euclid Public Library www.euclidlibrary.org P.S. Of course, the real solution would be for the publisher to strip the DRM, but that is another discussion altogether... Edward Spodick wrote: > At 7:32 PM -0400 8/6/07, Carol Bean wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Bret Parker wrote: >> >> >>> We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. >>> >>> I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... >>> >>> What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows them to run Windows programs? >>> >>> Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this operation? >>> >> Yeah, they could set up an intel Mac to run Windows as well as OSX, and download audiobooks there. But they'd have to have an MP3 player that met the audiobook requirements in order to make it portable. I don't know many (well, none, actually) Mac users who will choose an MP3 in addition to an iPod (or instead of an iPod). But yeah, it could be done... >> >> Carol Bean >> beanworks.wordpress.com >> > > > As a systems person, I would do it for testing. As a Mac *user*, I would certainly not bother, nor would I be willing to spend so much money to do so - Virtualization software license (possibly no cost), Windows OS license, MP3 player which is currently compatible, new MP3 player next year or the year after to maintain compatibility, etc. Of course, a similar problem arises with some iTunes store files - or at least it would if the iTunes store was even available here. :) > > Basically, I have given up on using digitally restricted media for my personal needs. > > From Vernell.Ward at okbu.edu Tue Aug 7 09:42:28 2007 From: Vernell.Ward at okbu.edu (Vernell Ward) Date: Tue Aug 7 11:14:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting: Access and Outreach Services Librarian Message-ID: <46B83074.E21C.001A.0@okbu.edu> Position Opening Oklahoma Baptist University Mabee Learning Center Title: Access and Outreach Services Librarian Supervision received: Dean of Library Services Supervision given: Library student workers Purpose Provide leadership to plan, deliver, and assess access and outreach services to meet the information needs of the university community both on and off campus. Work with the librarians and staff of the Mabee Learning Center in professional development, campus service, library planning, and university-wide library initiatives. Essential functions Oversees and manages all aspects of policy generation for interlibrary loan services. Knows and recommends all current uses of OCLC, ARIEL, INGENTA, TRANS-AMIGOS for interlibrary loan and courier services. Pursues, recommends and implements innovative access services, document delivery and interlibrary cooperation plans of all kinds and descriptions in conjunction with the Dean of Library Services. Supervises the work of the Access and Outreach Services student workers. Develop and implement a promotion and marketing strategy for library services. Assist liaison librarians in promoting library services for all academic disciplines. Explore developments and models for outreach library services (local, regional and national) and make recommendations on the direction of the service. Other duties Serves as a reference librarian in the Mabee Learning Center an average of 8-10 hours per week. This position will require evening and weekend duty. Serves as liaison library to assigned teaching division providing collection development and library instruction Serves on faculty committees as assigned. Performs other duties as required to support the mission of the library. Qualifications Education Required: Master*s Degree in Library/Information Science from an ALA accredited library school/university. Experience Experience as a librarian in an academic library and use of a major library integrated system, preferred. Experience with HTML/Web design preferred. Equipment Basic computer skills, Microsoft Office, email, required. Application form available online at http://www.okbu.edu/businessaffairs/hr/application_administration.pdf Questions should be sent to Richard Cheek, Dean of Library Services richard.cheek@okbu.edu or phone 405-878-2249 Richard Cheek Dean of Library Services Mabee Learning Center Oklahoma Baptist University 405-878-2249 From snb at uoregon.edu Tue Aug 7 11:35:26 2007 From: snb at uoregon.edu (Sara Brownmiller) Date: Tue Aug 7 11:35:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases In-Reply-To: <4c5c30910708061702pccdd44dm1b95248ba5512ec1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> <4c5c30910708061702pccdd44dm1b95248ba5512ec1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46B8913E.4070706@uoregon.edu> Thanks to all who have responded. Responses seem to focus primarily on the configurability of Web browsers. What I am most interested in learning is whether you are aware of databases or electronic resources that you have licensed that will not work with a specific browser, or version of a browser. For example, we subscribe to Mediamark Reporter. To generate the reports, you must use Internet Explorer or Netscape. When you try to connect to the site with Firefox, the site does a browser check, tells you that you don't meet one of the access requirements, and suggests that you make an adjustment. Does anyone know of any other resources that have such restrictions? Sara > > On 8/6/07, Sara Brownmiller wrote: >> We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing >> whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer >> Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically >> offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the >> major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform as >> expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good >> performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that >> specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? >> >> I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that might >> provide an answer. >> >> thanks, Sara >> >> -- >> >> >> Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon Libraries >> Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of Oregon >> Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >> snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) >> _______________________________________________ >> Web4lib mailing list >> Web4lib@webjunction.org >> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ >> > > -- Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) From darci.hanning at state.or.us Tue Aug 7 11:34:21 2007 From: darci.hanning at state.or.us (Darci Hanning) Date: Tue Aug 7 11:36:33 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Federated search with database suggestion In-Reply-To: <36adb6110708070549r6b63beb2o489593a9a449c2d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Perhaps you're looking for LibraryFind? http://search.library.oregonstate.edu/record/search For additional info, see http://www.libraryfind.org/ Cheers, Darci ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Darci Hanning * Technology Development Consultant * Library Development Services Oregon State Library, 250 Winter St. NE, Salem, OR 97301 503-378-2527 darci.hanning@state.or.us Ask me about Plinkit! http://www.plinkit.org/ http://oregon.plinkit.org -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Dominique Papin Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 5:50 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Federated search with database suggestion Hello everyone I'm turning to this group of librarian brains to find something I've seen before but I can't seem to get my hands on it again. I've seen a library page offering a federated search. After the search was sent, while the results were being found, i believe there was suggestion of other(?) databases related to the keywords entered, offering users to move on to the page of those db to do more precise search. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Thanks Dominique _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com Tue Aug 7 11:47:19 2007 From: BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com (Benjamin Daeuber) Date: Tue Aug 7 11:49:02 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases Message-ID: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F61FF9@denali.cityoffargo.com> I have a grand total of 1 database that will not work in browsers other than IE, and there's a work around for that. Mitchell OnDemand needs ActiveX to run. There are options for making IE only sites render in firefox or Opera, but I've only needed it on the above site. We subscribe to a limited number of databases, being a public library, but all our EBSCO and ProQuest (including Ancestry.com) work with alternative browsers just fine. Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sara Brownmiller Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:35 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases Thanks to all who have responded. Responses seem to focus primarily on the configurability of Web browsers. What I am most interested in learning is whether you are aware of databases or electronic resources that you have licensed that will not work with a specific browser, or version of a browser. For example, we subscribe to Mediamark Reporter. To generate the reports, you must use Internet Explorer or Netscape. When you try to connect to the site with Firefox, the site does a browser check, tells you that you don't meet one of the access requirements, and suggests that you make an adjustment. Does anyone know of any other resources that have such restrictions? Sara > > On 8/6/07, Sara Brownmiller wrote: >> We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing >> whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer >> Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically >> offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the >> major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform >> as expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good >> performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that >> specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? >> >> I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that >> might provide an answer. >> >> thanks, Sara >> >> -- >> >> >> Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon >> Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of >> Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >> snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) >> _______________________________________________ >> Web4lib mailing list >> Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ >> > > -- Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com Tue Aug 7 11:47:34 2007 From: BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com (Benjamin Daeuber) Date: Tue Aug 7 11:49:03 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? Message-ID: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F61FFA@denali.cityoffargo.com> Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Daeuber Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:43 AM To: 'Kevin Devine' Cc: Benjamin Daeuber Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? WMP for Mac does not support Windows "Plays for Sure" DRM. Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Devine Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 9:19 AM To: Edward Spodick Cc: Web4Lib Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? Or you can download Windows Media Player for the Mac... http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=window smedia The Quicktime plug-in doesn't support DRM'ed Windows Media files, but WMP9 for Mac does. Thank you, Kevin Devine Euclid Public Library www.euclidlibrary.org P.S. Of course, the real solution would be for the publisher to strip the DRM, but that is another discussion altogether... Edward Spodick wrote: > At 7:32 PM -0400 8/6/07, Carol Bean wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Bret Parker wrote: >> >> >>> We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able >>> to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. >>> >>> I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary >>> and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player >>> and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... >>> >>> What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows >>> them to run Windows programs? >>> >>> Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows >>> Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this operation? >>> >> Yeah, they could set up an intel Mac to run Windows as well as OSX, >> and download audiobooks there. But they'd have to have an MP3 player >> that met the audiobook requirements in order to make it portable. I >> don't know many (well, none, actually) Mac users who will choose an >> MP3 in addition to an iPod (or instead of an iPod). But yeah, it >> could be done... >> >> Carol Bean >> beanworks.wordpress.com >> > > > As a systems person, I would do it for testing. As a Mac *user*, I > would certainly not bother, nor would I be willing to spend so much > money to do so - Virtualization software license (possibly no cost), > Windows OS license, MP3 player which is currently compatible, new MP3 > player next year or the year after to maintain compatibility, etc. Of > course, a similar problem arises with some iTunes store files - or at > least it would if the iTunes store was even available here. :) > > Basically, I have given up on using digitally restricted media for my > personal needs. > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com Tue Aug 7 11:47:55 2007 From: BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com (Benjamin Daeuber) Date: Tue Aug 7 11:49:05 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player forthe Macintosh? Message-ID: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F61FFB@denali.cityoffargo.com> Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Daeuber Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 10:40 AM To: 'Edward Spodick' Cc: Benjamin Daeuber Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player forthe Macintosh? -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Edward Spodick Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:05 PM To: Carol Bean; Web4Lib Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player forthe Macintosh? At 7:32 PM -0400 8/6/07, Carol Bean wrote: >On Aug 6, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Bret Parker wrote: > >>We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to >>use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. >> >>I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary >>and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and >>is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... >> >>What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows >>them to run Windows programs? >> >>Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media >>Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be >>adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file >>to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's >>view of this operation? > >Yeah, they could set up an intel Mac to run Windows as well as OSX, and >download audiobooks there. But they'd have to have an MP3 player that >met the audiobook requirements in order to make it portable. I don't >know many (well, none, actually) Mac users who will choose an MP3 in >addition to an iPod (or instead of an iPod). But yeah, it could be >done... > >Carol Bean >beanworks.wordpress.com >As a systems person, I would do it for testing. As a Mac *user*, I >would certainly not >>bother, nor would I be willing to spend so much money to do so - Virtualization software >>license (possibly no cost), Windows OS license, MP3 player which is currently compatible, >>new MP3 player next year or the year after to maintain compatibility, >>etc. Of course, a >>similar problem arises with some iTunes store >>files - or at least it would if the iTunes >>store was even available >>here. :) >Basically, I have given up on using digitally restricted media for my >personal needs. I have an mp3 player from prior to my owning a mac that I like quite a bit. I run Parrallels on my Intel Mac, which gives me pretty much everything I need from Windows, including the ability to sync my player. Of course... DRM is still bad, but *I* can work around it. Most customers, however... Well, lets hope Apple opens their DRM soon. From pshapiro at his.com Tue Aug 7 12:44:17 2007 From: pshapiro at his.com (Phil Shapiro) Date: Tue Aug 7 12:45:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] starting blogging for PCWorld.com Message-ID: <1186505057.46b8a1613eb5a@webmail2.his.com> hi web4lib community, some happy news to share. yesterday i started blogging for PCWorld.com on their new Community Voices blog. see my first blog post at http://tinyurl.com/2ewgkz if you'd like to follow the Community Voices blog, here is the web site address of the blog. http://blogs.pcworld.com/communityvoices/ this blog is a group blog, so there will be others blogging there alongside me. my editor at PCWorld.com tells me that the PCWorld.com gets about 30 to 35 million pageviews per month. do keep me posted about your ideas or news. it's easiest for me to blog about items where you yourselves have shared info, news or ideas via a blog. and please do remember to use youtube to express yourself. phil shapiro, public geek takoma park maryland library interestingly, within a few minutes of my first blog post someone submitted it to digg at http://tinyurl.com/2hwte8 if you have a digg account, thanks for digging this. -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro@his.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates "Learning happens through gentleness." From gerrymck at iastate.edu Tue Aug 7 13:25:04 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Tue Aug 7 13:35:47 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] REMINDER: Brief Survey of Social Networking by Academic Librarians and Libraries In-Reply-To: <46B86460.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46B86460.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46B864A0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Reminder: Brief Survey of Social Networking by Academic Librarians and Libraries Friends/ ***A Quick Reminder About a Quick Survey*** For a variety of purposes, I have created a brief 10-question SurveyMonkey survey on the presence of College and Research Libraries in one or more of the more popular Social Networking Sites (Facebook, MySpace, Orkut.etc.) For those who have not already done so, I would most appreciate if my Friends (and/or Enemies) [:-)] Complete The Survey by this Friday I have embedded the Survey Link within my posting on the survey in my _Friends_ blog [ http://onlinesocialnetworks.blogspot.com/2007/08/library-presence-in-social-networking.html ] The survey requests basic information about library and institutional presence in any of the major Social Networking Sites, as well personal and/or professional membership. The survey should take no longer than 5-10 minutes (10-15 if you*re over 50) [:-) [Like Moi] ***ACT NOW: The Sale Ends This Friday, August 10, 2007*** And Do Spread the Word About The Survey !!! Thanks for participating! ***BTW: I Plan/Hope to Post A Summary of Key Results by September 1st*** /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From Karen.Groves at exlibrisgroup.com Tue Aug 7 14:15:37 2007 From: Karen.Groves at exlibrisgroup.com (Karen Groves) Date: Tue Aug 7 14:16:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Federated search with database suggestion In-Reply-To: <8D054E2E14507243A096205AC4D6C260EEBC9A@il-ex01.Corp.Exlibrisgroup.com> References: <8D054E2E14507243A096205AC4D6C260EEBC9A@il-ex01.Corp.Exlibrisgroup.com> Message-ID: <4CB3E05044AE6D47989FF271DEF16ADA0181D0A3@us-ex02.Corp.Exlibrisgroup.com> One of our MetaLib customers - University of Groningen, the Netherlands - is working on a very interesting and innovative project that incorporates functionality similar to that you describe, and much more. This project is called 'Livetrix'. Groningen University uses MetaLib's X-Server - our suite of XML-based APIs - to integrate MetaLib functionality in Livetrix. For more information about Livetrix, see the project wiki at: http://livetrix.wiki.ub.rug.nl/index.php/Main_Page A demo version is available at: http://livetrix.ub.rug.nl/ - a login is required, but information is included about requesting one. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Karen Groves MetaLib Product Manager Ex Libris, Inc. Phone: 617 332 8800 ext. 529 Email: karen.groves@exlibrisgroup.com From listuser at chillco.com Tue Aug 7 15:10:43 2007 From: listuser at chillco.com (Cary Gordon) Date: Tue Aug 7 15:08:53 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> Message-ID: <137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://www.chillco.com -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bret Parker Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:08 PM To: Web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and is not part of the Mac or iPod world. But... What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows them to run Windows programs? Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate to at least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a compatible MP3 player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this operation? Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton-San Joaquin County Public Library 605 N. El Dorado St Stockton, CA 95202 bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us (209) 937-7148 http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us Stockton Reads! From andrew.hankinson at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 15:30:49 2007 From: andrew.hankinson at gmail.com (Andrew Hankinson) Date: Tue Aug 7 15:31:00 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> <137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> Message-ID: <0F56F2C1-747C-41C7-9499-A7D67BC3E681@gmail.com> Does VideoLAN play "Plays for Sure" DRM'd files? I know it can handle unDRM'd Windows Media, but I'd be shocked if it could handle the DRM stuff on a platform other than Windows. On 7-Aug-07, at 3:10 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? > > They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. > > Cary Gordon > The Cherry Hill Company > http://www.chillco.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bret Parker > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:08 PM > To: Web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for > theMacintosh? > > We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able > to use > downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. > > I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that > NetLibrary and > Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and > is not > part of the Mac or iPod world. But... > > What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows > them to > run Windows programs? > > Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows > Media Player > on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate > to at > least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a > compatible MP3 > player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this > operation? > > Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton- > San > Joaquin County Public Library > 605 N. El Dorado St > Stockton, CA 95202 > bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us > (209) 937-7148 > > http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us > Stockton Reads! > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ Andrew Hankinson andrew.hankinson@gmail.com From BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com Tue Aug 7 16:48:05 2007 From: BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com (Benjamin Daeuber) Date: Tue Aug 7 16:47:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player fortheMacintosh? Message-ID: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F62042@denali.cityoffargo.com> Nothing handles Windows DRM except Windows Media Player (10+) on Windows. Period, no questions asked. It sucks... And if you crack it you're in violation of the DMCA. Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hankinson Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:31 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player fortheMacintosh? Does VideoLAN play "Plays for Sure" DRM'd files? I know it can handle unDRM'd Windows Media, but I'd be shocked if it could handle the DRM stuff on a platform other than Windows. On 7-Aug-07, at 3:10 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? > > They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. > > Cary Gordon > The Cherry Hill Company > http://www.chillco.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bret Parker > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:08 PM > To: Web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for > theMacintosh? > > We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able > to use > downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. > > I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that > NetLibrary and > Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and > is not > part of the Mac or iPod world. But... > > What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows > them to > run Windows programs? > > Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows > Media Player > on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate > to at > least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a > compatible MP3 > player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this > operation? > > Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton- > San > Joaquin County Public Library > 605 N. El Dorado St > Stockton, CA 95202 > bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us > (209) 937-7148 > > http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us > Stockton Reads! > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ Andrew Hankinson andrew.hankinson@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 7 17:09:05 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Tue Aug 7 17:09:09 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Wikipedia nears 2 million articles Message-ID: <6004.35674.qm@web57104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> A New York Times interview with Jimmy Wales: Cohen, Noam. Jimmy Wales: 2 Million Articles Down and More to Do. New York Times. August 6, 2007. http://tinyurl.com/ywwwy4 Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us Tue Aug 7 17:28:58 2007 From: Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us (Bret Parker) Date: Tue Aug 7 17:29:01 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player fortheMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F62042@denali.cityoffargo.com> References: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F62042@denali.cityoffargo.com> Message-ID: <46B88156.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> NetLibrary supports Windows Media Player 9 or 10. >>> "Benjamin Daeuber" 8/7/2007 1:48 PM >>> Nothing handles Windows DRM except Windows Media Player (10+) on Windows. Period, no questions asked. It sucks... And if you crack it you're in violation of the DMCA. Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hankinson Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:31 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player fortheMacintosh? Does VideoLAN play "Plays for Sure" DRM'd files? I know it can handle unDRM'd Windows Media, but I'd be shocked if it could handle the DRM stuff on a platform other than Windows. On 7-Aug-07, at 3:10 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? > > They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. > > Cary Gordon > The Cherry Hill Company > http://www.chillco.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bret Parker > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:08 PM > To: Web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for > theMacintosh? > > We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able > to use > downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. > > I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that > NetLibrary and > Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and > is not > part of the Mac or iPod world. But... > > What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows > them to > run Windows programs? > > Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows > Media Player > on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be adequate > to at > least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a > compatible MP3 > player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this > operation? > > Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton- > San > Joaquin County Public Library > 605 N. El Dorado St > Stockton, CA 95202 > bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us > (209) 937-7148 > > http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us > Stockton Reads! > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ Andrew Hankinson andrew.hankinson@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com Tue Aug 7 17:33:30 2007 From: BDaeuber at cityoffargo.com (Benjamin Daeuber) Date: Tue Aug 7 17:33:21 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media PlayerfortheMacintosh? Message-ID: <5B618830B5A7184E99BC27A33103F04706F62049@denali.cityoffargo.com> You are correct on the Windows Media Version, it support 9, 10 and 11. However, it has to be Windows to get the DRM working. Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: Bret Parker [mailto:Bret.Parker@ci.stockton.ca.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:29 PM To: Benjamin Daeuber; web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media PlayerfortheMacintosh? NetLibrary supports Windows Media Player 9 or 10. >>> "Benjamin Daeuber" 8/7/2007 1:48 PM >>> Nothing handles Windows DRM except Windows Media Player (10+) on Windows. Period, no questions asked. It sucks... And if you crack it you're in violation of the DMCA. Benjamin Daeuber Technology and Electronic Resources Librarian Fargo Public Library Office- 701-241-1490 Cell- 701-541-3287 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Hankinson Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:31 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player fortheMacintosh? Does VideoLAN play "Plays for Sure" DRM'd files? I know it can handle unDRM'd Windows Media, but I'd be shocked if it could handle the DRM stuff on a platform other than Windows. On 7-Aug-07, at 3:10 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? > > They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. > > Cary Gordon > The Cherry Hill Company > http://www.chillco.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bret Parker > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:08 PM > To: Web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for > theMacintosh? > > We get complaints from time to time about Mac users not being able to > use downloadable audiobooks on their Macs or iPods. > > I realize the issue is Digital Rights Management and that NetLibrary > and Audible.com use a format that works with Windows Media Player and > is not > part of the Mac or iPod world. But... > > What if the Mac users ran leveraged the new technology that allows > them to run Windows programs? > > Would anyone download audiobooks from NetLibrary using Windows Media > Player on the Windows side of the Mac? Seems like that would be > adequate > to at > least listen. Maybe they could even transfer the file to a > compatible MP3 > player (not an iPod). Has anyone got an insider's view of this > operation? > > Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton- > San Joaquin County Public Library > 605 N. El Dorado St > Stockton, CA 95202 > bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us > (209) 937-7148 > > http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us > Stockton Reads! > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ Andrew Hankinson andrew.hankinson@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From bennetttm at appstate.edu Tue Aug 7 17:38:38 2007 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas Bennett) Date: Tue Aug 7 17:54:24 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases In-Reply-To: <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> References: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <200708071738.38189.bennetttm@appstate.edu> My results of testing a homespun captcha type product shows that JAWS only reads javascript alert boxes in IE. So if you have any accessibility concerns and you limit to one browser this would be a consideration. Otherwise I haven't seen any browser specific issues with databases and we use IE, Firefox and Opera on our public PCs. Thomas On Monday 06 August 2007 19:41, Sara Brownmiller wrote: > We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing > whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer > Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically > offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the > major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform as > expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good > performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that > specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? > > I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that might > provide an answer. > > thanks, Sara -- ==================================================================== Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Operations & Systems Analyst P O Box 32026 University Library Boone, North Carolina 28608 (828) 262 6587 They say a picture is worth a thousand words. As videos could be 25 pictures per second and might last several minutes, how many words is that? - Linux Journal, July 2007 Library Systems Help Desk: http://www.library.appstate.edu/help/ ==================================================================== From sri_lib at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 05:14:11 2007 From: sri_lib at yahoo.com (sri priya) Date: Wed Aug 8 05:14:15 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Internet Library for Librarians : Information portal Message-ID: <792188.41397.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Internet Library for Librarians has been a popular information resource site for librarians since 1994. It is an information portal designed for librarians to locate Internet resources related to their profession. It has received many awards, including SUNLINK Link of the Week, Digital Librarian Award from Argus Clearinghouse, the Best Library and Reference Site from LibrarySpot, and Five Stars from Anbar Cool Sites. Internet Library for Librarians is also linked and referenced by hundreds of libraries and other organizations, including the Library of Congress and OCLC. Internet Library for Librarians provides links to more than 3,000 resources. All the resources are recommended, selected, and reviewed by librarians. Each entry has a full description of the goals and /or scope of the resource, as well as the contact information if provided. Internet Library for Librarians is a handy and useful tool for both novices and experienced library staff. Links: http://www.itcompany2.com/inforetriever/index.htm Regards, S.Sripriya --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From nina.mchale at cudenver.edu Wed Aug 8 07:54:26 2007 From: nina.mchale at cudenver.edu (McHale, Nina) Date: Wed Aug 8 07:55:09 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] III WAM and 360 Search (Central Search) Message-ID: <38B838B2210D8749B82E5914B5E3FA5E06C21BF9@kelso.cudenver.edu> Hello, hello, Is anyone out there using III's WAM table proxy method and Serials Solutions' 360 Search/Central Search? We're having some trouble getting 360 Search to behave with our proxy server. Thanks in advance, Nina Nina McHale Assistant Professor, Web Librarian Auraria Library Denver, Colordo From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 09:53:58 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Wed Aug 8 09:54:02 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Indiana Univeristy, Cha-Cha, and guided search Message-ID: <944295.18446.qm@web57105.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Briggs, Linda L. Inside Indiana U's Move to Cha-Cha: University to bolster research with guided search functionality. Campus Technology, August 8, 2007. "Indiana University's alliance with search firm ChaCha, announced last week, may portend how universities, librarians, and Internet search engines will work together in the future. The arrangement points up how librarians or other experts can add huge value to scholarly searches through so-called "guided searches" by stepping in to offer access to vast amounts of material--and expertise--that conventional search engines don't touch." Full text: http://campustechnology.com/articles/49582/ Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From dirk.pieper at uni-bielefeld.de Wed Aug 8 11:09:26 2007 From: dirk.pieper at uni-bielefeld.de (Dirk Pieper) Date: Wed Aug 8 11:10:12 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Multi-lingual search in BASE Lab Message-ID: <200708081709.27008.dirk.pieper@uni-bielefeld.de> ** sorry for cross-posting ** Dear all, BASE (Bielefeld Academic Search Engine) is a multi-disciplinary search engine which was created and developed by Bielefeld University Library. It contains mostly scientific OAI-resources and is based on search technology provided by the Norwegian company FAST Search & Transfer (www.fastsearch.com). BASE currently comprises of some 7 million documents deriving from 452 sources. The BASE website has been expanded by a new public test area: the BASE Lab http://base.ub.uni-bielefeld.de/lab/index_english.html On the BASE Lab pages we will introduce new potential features. You are invited to test and give feedback, so that we can improve the features before they are finally implemented in the live version of BASE. At present, the BASE Lab features our proposition for a multi-lingual search based on the Eurovoc thesaurus. For example, if you switch on this option in the BASE Lab search mask and enter "market acces", the result list will bring up documents in German, Finnish, French and Spanish a.o. which include this word in the respective language. In addition, you may choose an option which retrieves even synonyms, if these are provided in the thesaurus. The thesaurus comprises 21 languages and is administered by the Office for Official Publications of the European Communities, for further information please visit the english version of: http://europa.eu/eurovoc/ Another feature offered for testing is a browsing option across three hierarchy levels of the Dewey Decimal Classification (DDC). However, browsing is only possible for documents, whose OAI metadata include classification information according to DDC. This condition is met for example by all German OPUS installations and repositories which are certified by DINI. However, the depth of indexing could be better as some of the classes are not in use. After all, at present some 54,000 documents can be browsed. We are truly looking forward to constructive criticism in order to optimize these new features. For further information please visit: http://www.base-search.net Regards ******************************************** Dirk Pieper BASE Bielefeld UL Universitaetsstrasse 25, D-33615 Bielefeld fon: +49 (0)521/ 106-4010 fax: -6452 www.ub.uni-bielefeld.de ******************************************** From randy.norwood at ttu.edu Wed Aug 8 12:07:05 2007 From: randy.norwood at ttu.edu (Randy Norwood) Date: Wed Aug 8 12:12:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Segregation of content between public websites and portals Message-ID: My law school is in the process of reworking our website (new design, reorganized/rewritten content). The intent is to make the site more of a vehicle for recruitment, focused on the needs of prospective students, than a catch-all information center for everyone associated with, or interested in, the law school. We also are implementing a portal/intranet using SharePoint, where most of the content is targeted to current students, faculty and staff, and would require authentication for access. We have been assuming that information about services (such as IT services) that are available only to students, faculty and staff would be mostly located on the intranet, with only a brief summary on the public website. The problem with this approach is that being able to see the extent and quality of services provided can be a powerful recruiting or PR tool. My question is how other libraries have approached the problem of where to put content (public web vs. secured portal/intranet). Is there a significant downside (e.g., security risks ) to keeping IT-related information (no applications) publicly-accessible? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Randy Norwood Sr Programmer/Analyst Texas Tech School of Law Library Office: 806-742-3990 x350 Support: 806-742-3990 x318, computersupport.law@ttu.edu E-mail: randy.norwood@ttu.edu From rolen at yu.edu Wed Aug 8 15:04:51 2007 From: rolen at yu.edu (Heather Rolen) Date: Wed Aug 8 15:07:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting: Systems Administrator University Libraries Message-ID: <008801c7d9ef$000bc150$7cd36281@DJJSP581> SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES Yeshiva University, ranked in the top tier of national research universities, seeks a professional to manage technology and computer services at its library locations in upper and midtown Manhattan. This individual will develop and maintain interfaces to web-enabled database applications (currently implemented in house CMS, Greenstone and more); establish and maintain guidelines for developing new applications in support of our students, library staff, faculty, and alumni; provide backup system administration and trouble-shoot computer issues; supervise, direct and assign staff as required; and perform other related duties as assigned. A Bachelor's degree and working knowledge of Microsoft IIS and network system administration, as well as IP addressing, subnet masks, DNS and default gateways necessary. We offer an attractive benefit package which includes health/dental/life insurance, retirement plan with immediate entry and vesting, 4 weeks vacation and a generous holiday schedule. For immediate consideration, forward your resume and salary history, in confidence, to: Human Resources Manager, Yeshiva University, 500 West 185th Street, New York, NY 10033; Fax: (212) 960-0080; Email: Orlando@yu.edu An EOE. From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 15:37:19 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Wed Aug 8 15:37:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools Message-ID: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Interesting blurb from Brock Read at the Chronicle of Higher Education: http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=2288 Basically there are no library resources on The Centre for Learning & Performance Technologies? list of Top 100 Tools for Learning. Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." But Read (referring to comments by Stephen Downes, a senior researcher for Canada?s National Research Council) suggests that perhaps "the lack of library services on the list could be evidence of bad tools, not a lack of publicity." Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From bennetttm at appstate.edu Wed Aug 8 15:37:32 2007 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas Bennett) Date: Wed Aug 8 15:53:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Segregation of content between public websites and portals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200708081537.32831.bennetttm@appstate.edu> See http://zope.org and http://plone.org download and test it out, its all Open Source and no charge. Security can be quite granular on Zope. We are using Zope behind Apache and a little bit of Plone. The entire site is stored in an Object Oriented database (ZODB) making backups easy. In Zope individual pages can have security settings. In fact this can be incorporated into sections of a page. For example a page might have:
This text would show as regular text on the WEB page.
CHECK FOR CERTAIN IP RANGE assign result (1 or 0) to hostname This is not exactly correct syntax but I think it conveys the idea of what may be done. The dtml-vars are individual documents in this example. Also, I have been using dtml for years but the better method would be Zope Page Templates which are more xml style syntax which can easily be edited in a commercial or Open Source WEB editor. You can specify global users and roles or local to individual directories. There are several authentication methods available such as LDAP and others. There are database adapters for most popular databases and a few odbc database adapters which allow you to use queries called from your page to display data. To use a database once an adapter is installed you create add a Z SQL Method that holds your query using the same syntax you would on a console interface for that database. See http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/RelationalDatabases.stx for more info on using external databases. With Paramiko you can create through the WEB scripts that us SSH or SFTP. One I have created is a link to a script that allows a user to backup a Postgresql database before making changes with other through the WEB forms. Most utility pages that staff and faculty use here are in a folder requiring a login and then all the pages may be viewed with a valid login such as the form to add online database information to the database server for dynamic pages. There is through the WEB editing, ftp, or webdav on the port of your choice. Our library help desk page requires a login and every faculty and staff member has a login on the server although this can be done through LDAP. There are many options for setting up Zope, look for ZEO storage server which allows Zope to be a client to the storage server. This lets you run multiple Zopes on different machines to one storage or one Zope to fail over to other storages. I could go on but this is probably more than some wanted to see for now anyway. Thomas On Wednesday 08 August 2007 12:07, Randy Norwood wrote: > My law school is in the process of reworking our website (new design, > reorganized/rewritten content). The intent is to make the site more of a > vehicle for recruitment, focused on the needs of prospective students, than > a catch-all information center for everyone associated with, or interested > in, the law school. > > We also are implementing a portal/intranet using SharePoint, where most of > the content is targeted to current students, faculty and staff, and would > require authentication for access. We have been assuming that information > about services (such as IT services) that are available only to students, > faculty and staff would be mostly located on the intranet, with only a > brief summary on the public website. The problem with this approach is that > being able to see the extent and quality of services provided can be a > powerful recruiting or PR tool. > > My question is how other libraries have approached the problem of where to > put content (public web vs. secured portal/intranet). Is there a > significant downside (e.g., security risks ) to keeping IT-related > information (no applications) publicly-accessible? -- ==================================================================== Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Operations & Systems Analyst P O Box 32026 University Library Boone, North Carolina 28608 (828) 262 6587 They say a picture is worth a thousand words. As videos could be 25 pictures per second and might last several minutes, how many words is that? - Linux Journal, July 2007 Library Systems Help Desk: http://www.library.appstate.edu/help/ ==================================================================== From Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu Wed Aug 8 16:12:22 2007 From: Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu (Karen Harker) Date: Wed Aug 8 16:12:39 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools In-Reply-To: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46B9DE34.B74E.0013.0@UTSouthwestern.edu> As I responded to this story, this is a list of "tools", not "resources" (Wikipedia and Google Scholar, aside), as noted by Mr. Ball. Libraries have traditionally provided access to primary and secondary resources, and the key tools we provide are not so much learning tools, but finding tools. Now, that should not exclude libraries from developing and providing learning tools, but exclusion from this list does not necessarily indicate we have bad tools, just tools for different purposes. Karen R. Harker, MLS, MPH UT Southwestern Medical Library 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Dallas, TX 75390-9049 214-648-8946 http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/library/ >>> On 8/8/07 at 2:37 PM, in message <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, "B.G. Sloan" wrote: Interesting blurb from Brock Read at the Chronicle of Higher Education: http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=2288 Basically there are no library resources on The Centre for Learning & Performance Technologies? list of Top 100 Tools for Learning. Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." But Read (referring to comments by Stephen Downes, a senior researcher for Canada?s National Research Council) suggests that perhaps "the lack of library services on the list could be evidence of bad tools, not a lack of publicity." Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From lbspodic at ust.hk Wed Aug 8 21:03:26 2007 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick) Date: Wed Aug 8 21:38:36 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> <137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> Message-ID: At 12:10 PM -0700 8/7/07, Cary Gordon wrote: >Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? > >They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. Oh yes - excellent tool, I use it heavily myself - especially for playing .wmv video files. But that does not deal with the DRM problem. If the audio subscription resources provided files which these tools could use then they might be a solution. But DRM severly limits opportunities and in this case, paves over the playground. -- Edward F Spodick, Information Technology Manager Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library lbspodic@ust.hk tel:852-2358-6743 fax:852-2358-1043 From mchampion at lvdl.org Thu Aug 9 09:19:30 2007 From: mchampion at lvdl.org (Michael L. Champion) Date: Thu Aug 9 09:20:11 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us><137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> Message-ID: <2C72EA41C716864B9D7F1AEFACBB0341010152D5@LVDL-SRV2.LVDL.LOCAL> I'm not a Mac user but has anyone tried this: Windows Media(r) Components for QuickTime http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=915d874d-d747-4 180-a400-5f06b1b5e559&DisplayLang=en#Overview Here is the "Advanced version" http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm Michael Champion Head, Information Technology Services Lake Villa District Library -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Edward Spodick Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:03 PM To: Cary Gordon; 'Bret Parker'; Web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? At 12:10 PM -0700 8/7/07, Cary Gordon wrote: >Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? > >They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. Oh yes - excellent tool, I use it heavily myself - especially for playing .wmv video files. But that does not deal with the DRM problem. If the audio subscription resources provided files which these tools could use then they might be a solution. But DRM severly limits opportunities and in this case, paves over the playground. -- Edward F Spodick, Information Technology Manager Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library lbspodic@ust.hk tel:852-2358-6743 fax:852-2358-1043 _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From andrew.hankinson at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 09:54:09 2007 From: andrew.hankinson at gmail.com (Andrew Hankinson) Date: Thu Aug 9 09:54:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <2C72EA41C716864B9D7F1AEFACBB0341010152D5@LVDL-SRV2.LVDL.LOCAL> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us><137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> <2C72EA41C716864B9D7F1AEFACBB0341010152D5@LVDL-SRV2.LVDL.LOCAL> Message-ID: <60852D0D-A0D8-47D1-B4A2-B36B750B80BB@gmail.com> I use it all the time. Microsoft has stopped producing Windows Media player for the Mac and have opted to promote this as the way to play WMV files on the Mac. It doesn't support the DRM features and it's still on WMV9 so any video in WMV10 is unplayable on the Mac. -Andrew On 9-Aug-07, at 9:19 AM, Michael L. Champion wrote: > I'm not a Mac user but has anyone tried this: > > Windows Media(r) Components for QuickTime > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=915d874d- > d747-4 > 180-a400-5f06b1b5e559&DisplayLang=en#Overview > > > Here is the "Advanced version" > > http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm > > Michael Champion > Head, Information Technology Services > Lake Villa District Library > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Edward Spodick > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:03 PM > To: Cary Gordon; 'Bret Parker'; Web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player > for theMacintosh? > > At 12:10 PM -0700 8/7/07, Cary Gordon wrote: >> Have you tried the free VideoLAN player - http://www.videolan.org/? >> >> They have versions for Mac and various Linux flavors. > > Oh yes - excellent tool, I use it heavily myself - especially for > playing .wmv video files. > But that does not deal with the DRM problem. If the audio > subscription > resources provided files which these tools could use then they > might be > a solution. But DRM severly limits opportunities and in this case, > paves over the playground. > > -- > Edward F Spodick, Information Technology Manager > Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library > lbspodic@ust.hk tel:852-2358-6743 fax:852-2358-1043 > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ __________________________ Andrew Hankinson, BMus, MLIS PhD Student, Music Technology McGill University andrew.hankinson@gmail.com (H) 514.692.6726 (W) 514.398.4535 x0300 (F) 514.398.8061 http://www.transientstudent.net From dbadman at temple.edu Thu Aug 9 09:56:49 2007 From: dbadman at temple.edu (Derik Badman) Date: Thu Aug 9 09:57:02 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Downloadable audiobooks - Windows Media Player for theMacintosh? In-Reply-To: <2C72EA41C716864B9D7F1AEFACBB0341010152D5@LVDL-SRV2.LVDL.LOCAL> References: <46B74723.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us><137f01c7d926$a7c1f780$e502a8c0@medusa> <2C72EA41C716864B9D7F1AEFACBB0341010152D5@LVDL-SRV2.LVDL.LOCAL> Message-ID: On Aug 9, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Michael L. Champion wrote: > I'm not a Mac user but has anyone tried this: > > Windows Media(r) Components for QuickTime > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=915d874d- > d747-4 > 180-a400-5f06b1b5e559&DisplayLang=en#Overview > > Here is the "Advanced version" > http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv.htm I've been using flip4mac for quite awhile. It works great for playing or streaming Windows media files but it won't work with the DRM. Derik A. Badman Digital Services Librarian Reference Librarian for Education and Social Administration Temple University Libraries Paley Library 121 Phone: 215-204-5250 Email: dbadman@temple.edu AIM: derikbad "Some people cry out against the acceleration of time, others cry out against stagnation. They're both right." -Henri Lefebvre From Primarydat at aol.com Thu Aug 9 14:32:28 2007 From: Primarydat at aol.com (Primarydat@aol.com) Date: Thu Aug 9 14:40:05 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Take the Survey of Institutional Digital Repositories & Receive Free Copy Message-ID: Primary Research Group is planning to publish a Survey of Institutional Digital Repositories. Take the survey and receive a free copy of the report. Libraries worldwide that have an institutional digital repository are eligible. All data is amalgamated and not presented for individual institutions. To take the survey, follow the link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=cI4gi6G2WPFHdIAemYJR0w_3d_3d James Moses, Research Analyst Primary Research Group Inc. 2753 Broadway, #156 NY, NY 10025 212-736-2316 _www.primaryresearch.com_ (http://www.primaryresearch.com/) _primarydat@mindspring.com_ (mailto:primarydat@mindspring.com) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From junus at mail.lib.msu.edu Thu Aug 9 16:03:38 2007 From: junus at mail.lib.msu.edu (Junus, Ranti) Date: Thu Aug 9 16:23:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools In-Reply-To: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AA263AB78B5394A8277D4C2A0EE490E0DFEC4F4@MAINLIB12.lib.msu.edu> Not to be a nitpick, but if I was asked about identifying tools in a learning context, it would probably won't cross my mind to put library resources as well. I'd list tools that I use to bring library resources to me (libX, zotero, and alike.) They have some interesting tools that I haven't encountered yet. Interesting... ranti. -- Ranti Junus, Web Services/Electronic Resources Michigan State University Libraries East Lansing, MI 48824 > -----Original Message----- > From: B.G. Sloan [mailto:bgsloan2@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:37 PM > To: lita-l@ala.org; web4lib@webjunction.org; dig_ref@listserv.syr.edu > Subject: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100 > learning tools > > > Interesting blurb from Brock Read at the Chronicle of Higher > Education: > > http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=2288 > > Basically there are no library resources on The Centre for > Learning & Performance Technologies' list of Top 100 Tools > for Learning . > > Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) > that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness > about these resources to the faculty and researchers who > should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." > > But Read (referring to comments by Stephen Downes, a senior > researcher for Canada's National Research Council) suggests > that perhaps "the lack of library services on the list could > be evidence of bad tools, not a lack of publicity." > > Bernie Sloan > > ________________________________ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge > ions/222> to see what's on, when. > > ________________________________ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > on Yahoo! Travel. > From ashkev at gmail.com Thu Aug 9 16:17:28 2007 From: ashkev at gmail.com (kevin smith) Date: Thu Aug 9 16:29:12 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Edubuntu Thin Clients Message-ID: Hello, I have installed Edubuntu server on an old Gates grant server. I have set up a couple of clients on old machines I had laying around, but I fear that I will run out of old computers before I get the number of stations I think we need. Also, all of the old machines have large CRT monitors that have seen better days. Is anyone out there using thin clients that they can recommend? Or does anyone know of a good cheap source of basic machines (new or used) that I could use as thin clients? Thanks, -- Kevin Smith Assistant Director Cass District Library AND The Fiddling Librarian: http://ashkev.weblogs.us From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 9 17:31:22 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Thu Aug 9 17:31:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools In-Reply-To: <4AA263AB78B5394A8277D4C2A0EE490E0DFEC4F4@MAINLIB12.lib.msu.edu> Message-ID: <882625.14854.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> This "top 100" list has a mighty long tail... Ninety experts each were asked to identify what they thought were their top ten learning tools. The "top 100" list was compiled from these "top 10" lists. Over half of the items on the top 100 list were mentioned by 4 or fewer (less than 5%) of the experts. Seventeen of the items were mentioned by only 2 of the 90 experts on their personal lists. I'm certainly no statistician, so I don't know how significant this is...still... Bernie Sloan "Junus, Ranti" wrote: Not to be a nitpick, but if I was asked about identifying tools in a learning context, it would probably won't cross my mind to put library resources as well. I'd list tools that I use to bring library resources to me (libX, zotero, and alike.) They have some interesting tools that I haven't encountered yet. Interesting... ranti. -- Ranti Junus, Web Services/Electronic Resources Michigan State University Libraries East Lansing, MI 48824 > -----Original Message----- > From: B.G. Sloan [mailto:bgsloan2@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:37 PM > To: lita-l@ala.org; web4lib@webjunction.org; dig_ref@listserv.syr.edu > Subject: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100 > learning tools > > > Interesting blurb from Brock Read at the Chronicle of Higher > Education: > > http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=2288 > > Basically there are no library resources on The Centre for > Learning & Performance Technologies' list of Top 100 Tools > for Learning . > > Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) > that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness > about these resources to the faculty and researchers who > should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." > > But Read (referring to comments by Stephen Downes, a senior > researcher for Canada's National Research Council) suggests > that perhaps "the lack of library services on the list could > be evidence of bad tools, not a lack of publicity." > > Bernie Sloan > > ________________________________ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge > > ions/222> to see what's on, when. > > ________________________________ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > lc=X3oDMTFhN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsL W5jbQ--> on Yahoo! Travel. > --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From mols at lvc.edu Fri Aug 10 10:15:29 2007 From: mols at lvc.edu (Mols, Frank) Date: Fri Aug 10 10:15:17 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Announcement - Lebanon Valley College - Systems and Reference Librarian Message-ID: Lebanon Valley College Systems and Reference Librarian The Vernon and Doris Bishop Library at Lebanon Valley College seeks a creative, service-oriented librarian who is prepared to provide leadership in the use of technologies to enhance information services for the college community. This 12 month full-time position reports to the Director of the Library. The Systems and Reference Librarian is responsible for the management and maintenance of the online integrated library system; development of information delivery systems; management of electronic information systems including online databases, electronic journal subscriptions, and Web resources; maintenance of the library Web pages; and other related system functions. The successful candidate will provide reference service and bibliographic instruction and assist with collection development and may also participate in some technical services activities including bibliographic control, cataloging, and serials management. Requirements: M.L.S. or M.I.S. from an accredited institution. Experience with information technology systems and web development is preferred. Programming skills in ASP.NET, HTML, Perl, and SQL and recent experience in reference and instruction as well as knowledge of electronic database vendor practices are preferred. Strong interpersonal skills; demonstrated initiative and ability to work independently and as a team member in developing services and completing projects; excellent oral and written communication skills; ability to manage multiple projects; and a strong commitment to service and professional development. Interested candidates should preferably email a letter of interest, resume, and three professional references to jobs@lvc.edu or mail materials to Human Resources, Lebanon Valley College, 101 N. College Ave., Annville, PA 17003 EOE Review of candidates will continue until the position is filled. Frank Mols Director of the Library Lebanon Valley College 101 North College Avenue Annville, PA 17003-1400 Phone: 717-867-6985 Mobile: 607-222-6003 Fax: 717-867-6979 From PSchoenberg at EPL.CA Fri Aug 10 14:25:43 2007 From: PSchoenberg at EPL.CA (Peter Schoenberg) Date: Fri Aug 10 14:25:48 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages In-Reply-To: <20070810163746.591D7189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20070810163746.591D7189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> We have put up a "tag cloud" based on words in the titles of all of our Subject Pages on the Edmonton Public Library site. Really not sure what to call the page or what words to use in the link text. I think tag cloud is hardly a common phrase among our users. You can find the Browse Subjects by Title link on the home page or go directly to the page using the following link. http://www.epl.ca/EPLCloudNine.cfm?all=yes Subject pages include booklists, pathfinders for kids, and all the normal subject pages you would expect. Any and all comments are appreciated as we determine the fate of the page and how else we might use the technique. Peter __________________________________________________ Peter Schoenberg????????????????? (780) 496 1855 Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library ?????????????????????????? www.epl.ca?????? From pdeanda at libraryassociates.com Fri Aug 10 14:45:07 2007 From: pdeanda at libraryassociates.com (Patty De Anda) Date: Fri Aug 10 14:45:18 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Available: Knowledge Management Content Specialist (Manhattan, NY) Message-ID: <2490B2A4A4320D43B3C2AB11B542177CA68F4D@hosted.netfusion.mail> Library Associates Companies (LAC) seeks a talented Knowledge Management Content Specialist for our client, an international and well respected law firm, to work with corporate content. This is an exciting opportunity to learn new skills and grow within an excellent environment that maintains a tradition of excellence in a comprehensive, modern practice. The KM Content Specialist will work as part of the firm's knowledge management team under the supervision of the KM Manager and Library & KM Director. This position is in Manhattan. RESPONSIBILITIES: * Supervise the addition of new corporate records to the firm's portal * Respond to requests for information on M&A, Private Equity, and other corporate finance transactions * Review corporate portal records to establish accuracy and consistency in search results * Monitor need for changes to metadata values based on new portal submissions * Monitor submission of new user-submitted corporate content * Review and process submissions to the portal and matter summary database * Work with other KM staff members to develop and maintain consistent metadata values and standard coding practices * Train and supervise the Metadata Specialist * Assist KM Counsel with corporate research and the publishing of a bi-weekly internal corporate newsletter QUALIFICATIONS: * 5 years experience as a Corporate Librarian, Corporate Paralegal / Legal Assistant or Corporate Information Specialist * An understanding of and familiarity working with corporate and securities documents, transactions and issues * Strong knowledge of the US & Global capital markets * In-depth knowledge of SEC filings content and procedures * Experience using Lexis, Westlaw and other financial or business research resources * Familiarity with database design principles - preferably in a legal environment * Intermediate Excel skills; including the ability to work with formulas, filters and auto-lookup * Familiarity with portals, especially Plumtree or BEA Aqualogic * Good internet research skills, writing skills, and attention to detail * Experience working with Microsoft FrontPage * A professional appearance and phone manner * Work in a fast paced environment * Highly motivated and a team player TO APPLY: Qualified applicants should submit resumes and cover letters via email to Brad Rogers, brogers@libraryassociates.com , with a courtesy copy to Keith Gurtzweiler, keith@libraryassociates.com . The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender. From drweb at san.rr.com Fri Aug 10 16:02:03 2007 From: drweb at san.rr.com (drweb@san.rr.com) Date: Fri Aug 10 16:02:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages In-Reply-To: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> References: <20070810163746.591D7189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> Message-ID: Cool effort, Peter.. what was the way you did this? I think we'd like to see here a short description of the how-to. Best, DrWeb P. Michael McCulley mailto:drweb@san.rr.com San Diego, CA http://drweb.typepad.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Schoenberg Date: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:27 am Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages To: web4lib@webjunction.org > We have put up a "tag cloud" based on words in the titles of all of > our Subject Pages on the Edmonton Public Library site. > > Really not sure what to call the page or what words to use in the > link text. I think tag cloud is hardly a common phrase among our > users. > You can find the Browse Subjects by Title link on the home page or > go directly to the page using the following link. > > http://www.epl.ca/EPLCloudNine.cfm?all=yes > > Subject pages include booklists, pathfinders for kids, and all the > normal subject pages you would expect. > > Any and all comments are appreciated as we determine the fate of > the page and how else we might use the technique. > > Peter > > __________________________________________________ > Peter Schoenberg (780) 496 1855 > Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library > www.epl.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From gerrymck at iastate.edu Fri Aug 10 16:42:59 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Fri Aug 10 17:00:04 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] The European Library: Search the Content of European National Libraries In-Reply-To: <46BC863F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46BC8498.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46BC863F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46BC8783.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Colleagues/ A Most Remarkable Service!! The European Library [ http://www.theeuropeanlibrary.org/portal/index.html ] What is The European Library? The European Library is a non-commercial organisation. It provides the services of a physical library and the opportunity to benefit from a virtual environment in 20 languages. This website allows to search through the resources of 30 of the 47 national libraries involved in The European Library. Resources can be both digital or bibliographical (books, posters, maps, sound recordings, videos, etc.). Currently The European Library gives access to 150 million entries across Europe. The amount of referenced digital collections is constantly increasing. Quality and reliability are guaranteed by the 47 collaborating national libraries of Europe. The European Library searches the content of European national libraries. The national libraries of Europe Albania Armenia Austria Azerbaijan Belgium Bosnia and Herzegovina Bulgaria Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Georgia Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Ireland Italy-Florence Italy-Rome Latvia Liechtenstein Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Moldova Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Republic of Macedonia Romania Russia-Moscow Russia-St.Petersburg San Marino Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine United Kingdom Vatican City Do Take Time to Explore! Lots and Lots of Great Content and Advanced Features !!! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] From richard.wiggins at gmail.com Fri Aug 10 17:05:23 2007 From: richard.wiggins at gmail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Fri Aug 10 17:05:28 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages In-Reply-To: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> References: <20070810163746.591D7189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> Message-ID: This is way cool, not only in terms of possible utility, but also just as a very cool poster to hang on the way into the stacks. /rich On 8/10/07, Peter Schoenberg wrote: > > We have put up a "tag cloud" based on words in the titles of all of our > Subject Pages on the Edmonton Public Library site. > > Really not sure what to call the page or what words to use in the link > text. I think tag cloud is hardly a common phrase among our users. > > You can find the Browse Subjects by Title link on the home page or go > directly to the page using the following link. > > http://www.epl.ca/EPLCloudNine.cfm?all=yes > > Subject pages include booklists, pathfinders for kids, and all the normal > subject pages you would expect. > > Any and all comments are appreciated as we determine the fate of the page > and how else we might use the technique. > > Peter > > __________________________________________________ > Peter Schoenberg (780) 496 1855 > Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library > www.epl.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From kcoyle at kcoyle.net Fri Aug 10 17:14:38 2007 From: kcoyle at kcoyle.net (Karen Coyle) Date: Fri Aug 10 17:15:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] The European Library: Search the Content of European National Libraries In-Reply-To: <46BC8783.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46BC8498.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46BC863F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46BC8783.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46BCD53E.2040707@kcoyle.net> I wonder how they handle the language issue in searching? I did a search on "Venice" and got hits from non-English language catalogs. kc Gerry Mckiernan wrote: > Colleagues/ > > A Most Remarkable Service!! > > The European Library > > [ http://www.theeuropeanlibrary.org/portal/index.html ] > > What is The European Library? > The European Library is a non-commercial organisation. It provides the services of a physical library and the opportunity to benefit from a virtual environment in 20 languages. > > This website allows to search through the resources of 30 of the 47 national libraries involved in The European Library. Resources can be both digital or bibliographical (books, posters, maps, sound recordings, videos, etc.). > > Currently The European Library gives access to 150 million entries across Europe. The amount of referenced digital collections is constantly increasing. Quality and reliability are guaranteed by the 47 collaborating national libraries of Europe. > > The European Library searches the content of European national libraries. > > The national libraries of Europe > Albania Armenia Austria Azerbaijan Belgium Bosnia and Herzegovina Bulgaria Croatia Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Georgia Germany Greece Hungary Iceland Ireland Italy-Florence Italy-Rome Latvia Liechtenstein Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Moldova Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Republic of Macedonia Romania Russia-Moscow Russia-St.Petersburg San Marino Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine United Kingdom Vatican City > > Do Take Time to Explore! > > Lots and Lots of Great Content and Advanced Features !!! > > /Gerry > > Gerry McKiernan > Associate Professor > Science and Technology Librarian > Iowa State University Library > Ames IA 50011 > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > -- ----------------------------------- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234 ------------------------------------ From tmehlin at u.washington.edu Fri Aug 10 17:19:27 2007 From: tmehlin at u.washington.edu (Tracy L. Mehlin) Date: Fri Aug 10 17:19:33 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages In-Reply-To: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> References: <20070810163746.591D7189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD555A@TRINITY.epl.ca> Message-ID: <46BCD65F.7030708@u.washington.edu> I just made one of these one of these browse-able subject keyword graphic displays too and I ended up calling it a Tag Cloud, despite the fact that NO ONE around here knew what a tag cloud was. I called it a tag cloud for two reasons: 1) it's an intriguing , evocative phrase that I think some people might click just to see what it is; and 2) in the web 2.0 world that's what it's called. EPL's version is a bit different in that it's not actual "tags" but title words, but I think the visual/graphic/cloud element is what makes this sort of display stand out, so why not call attention to it. Tracy L. Mehlin, MLIS Information Technology Librarian Elisabeth C. Miller Library University of Washington Botanic Gardens Box 354115 Seattle, WA 98195-4115 206-543-0415 ~ tmehlin@u.washington.edu ~ www.millerlibrary.org Peter Schoenberg wrote: > We have put up a "tag cloud" based on words in the titles of all of our Subject Pages on the Edmonton Public Library site. > > Really not sure what to call the page or what words to use in the link text. I think tag cloud is hardly a common phrase among our users. > > You can find the Browse Subjects by Title link on the home page or go directly to the page using the following link. > > http://www.epl.ca/EPLCloudNine.cfm?all=yes > > Subject pages include booklists, pathfinders for kids, and all the normal subject pages you would expect. > > Any and all comments are appreciated as we determine the fate of the page and how else we might use the technique. > > Peter > > __________________________________________________ > Peter Schoenberg (780) 496 1855 > Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library > www.epl.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From jtgorman at uiuc.edu Fri Aug 10 17:20:19 2007 From: jtgorman at uiuc.edu (Jonathan Gorman) Date: Fri Aug 10 17:23:23 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages Message-ID: <20070810162019.AVJ70159@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu> Hmmm.... Well, the point of a tag cloud is a way of showing words or concepts that have a large weight. This tag cloud in theory represents how many "subject guides" related to a keyword you have, correct? How about "browse subjects guide by the words in the title" or something, then on the page have a little blurb explaining that the more word occurs within the title the of subject guides, the larger it is? What would make this a little simpler to link to is if you could select various ways of seeing the list of subject guides. That way all links could go to "browse subject guides". Then perhaps a drop down box or something could say "by frequncy of word in title". The page with the tag cloud could show the tag cloud with an explanation of what it was. Of course, if the tag cloud is the only to browse the words Just musing, not sure if I've been of any help. Naming can be tricky. And often I find the trick isn't trying to come up with a name, but rather figuring out why it's tricky to come up with a name? Is the thing hard to describe? Is it not actually what it's supposed to be? Jon Gorman ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:25:43 -0600 >From: "Peter Schoenberg" >Subject: [Web4lib] Keyword (tag cloud) view of subject pages >To: > >We have put up a "tag cloud" based on words in the titles of all of our Subject Pages on the Edmonton Public Library site. > >Really not sure what to call the page or what words to use in the link text. I think tag cloud is hardly a common phrase among our users. > >You can find the Browse Subjects by Title link on the home page or go directly to the page using the following link. > > http://www.epl.ca/EPLCloudNine.cfm?all=yes > >Subject pages include booklists, pathfinders for kids, and all the normal subject pages you would expect. > >Any and all comments are appreciated as we determine the fate of the page and how else we might use the technique. > >Peter > >__________________________________________________ >Peter Schoenberg (780) 496 1855 >Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library > www.epl.ca > >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From Elena_OMalley at emerson.edu Fri Aug 10 17:38:12 2007 From: Elena_OMalley at emerson.edu (Elena OMalley) Date: Fri Aug 10 17:38:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] No library resources on list of top 100 Message-ID: <20EBF4F2D8307E4EAF71464CBE00559403EA90C6@HAIL.emerson.edu> "The written word: books, paper and sketchbooks," tied for 51st place, with Don Taylor noting, "The Book - if this weren't a technology-focused list, this would be number one." http://www.c4lpt.co.uk/Top100Tools/writtenword.html Points about tools vs resources and about library e-tools/resources/online stuff duly acknowledged, but I'm glad at least one person remembered one of the tools we supply. Elena O'Malley Assistant Director for Technology and Access Services Emerson College Library, Boston, MA 02116 From kgs at bluehighways.com Fri Aug 10 19:18:43 2007 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Fri Aug 10 19:18:52 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools In-Reply-To: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070810231849.2D8111EAF8@heartbeat2.messagingengine.com> Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." If a dozen self-designated e-learning specialists all bullet-voted for one library-related tool, such as SFX, maybe it might make the list. Karen G. Schneider kgs@freerangelibrarian.com From dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us Fri Aug 10 19:33:57 2007 From: dplumer at tsl.state.tx.us (Danielle Plumer) Date: Fri Aug 10 19:35:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100learning tools In-Reply-To: <20070810231849.2D8111EAF8@heartbeat2.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <45057232A4AC6444B0F9452131E7446E0508EAF6@exchange.win2k.tsl.state.tx.us> According to the researcher, Jane Hart, at least 6 more folks can contribute, so, if you're "a learning professional (e.g. consultant, developer, practitioner, analyst, academic) and active in the field of e-learning," send her a note. There's only one self-described librarian on her list of professionals, currently. http://www.c4lpt.co.uk/recommended/index.html Danielle Cunniff Plumer, Coordinator Texas Heritage Digitization Initiative Texas State Library and Archives Commission 512.463.5852 (phone) / 512.936.2306 (fax) dplumer@tsl.state.tx.us -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of K.G. Schneider Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 6:19 PM To: lita-l@ala.org; web4lib@webjunction.org; dig_ref@listserv.syr.edu Subject: [Web4lib] RE: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100learning tools Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." If a dozen self-designated e-learning specialists all bullet-voted for one library-related tool, such as SFX, maybe it might make the list. Karen G. Schneider kgs@freerangelibrarian.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From Greg.Barkovich at bpl.bc.ca Fri Aug 10 23:53:01 2007 From: Greg.Barkovich at bpl.bc.ca (Barkovich, Greg) Date: Fri Aug 10 23:53:05 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Funwebproducts, iwon and firewalls Message-ID: <4FF9E49B703EB245ABB61F9BBABC5F98862511@COBVS4.city.burnaby.bc.ca.proxy> Our City's IT department recently installed a new firewall which is denying access to our Library Catalogue to patrons with internet browsers that have utilites from Funwebsolutions or iWon installed on them. Apparently this software does some tracking and is considered spyware by some but not all spyware removal programs. This does not affect all of our patrons but we get calls everyday asking why the catalogue is no longer available online. I did see a post somewhere indicating that 4% of browsers have funwebproducts installed. Is anyone else having this problem? If so how are you dealing with it? In some cases we can ask patrons to uninstall this spyware but obviously this is not going to work for everyone. Thanks, Greg From sri_lib at yahoo.com Sat Aug 11 01:39:26 2007 From: sri_lib at yahoo.com (sri priya) Date: Sat Aug 11 01:39:29 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Useful Websites Message-ID: <633894.26799.qm@web57012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Surrey Public Library Is a valued public service at the heart of our diverse community. It inspires people to dream, enriches lives through access to the world of information and knowledge, promotes creative expression, and preserves our heritage. A gateway to lifelong learning, the Library reaches out to motivate all residents to share in the joy of reading and to connect with each other and with new ideas. http://www.spl.surrey.bc.ca/Databases+and+Links/Popular+Websites/default.htm Useful Websites http://www.lths.net/Academics/Library_Discovery_Center/PopWeb.html http://www.library.aurora.on.ca/dynamic/LinkViewer.php?k=10 http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?cc=US&ts_mode=country&lang=none http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/TeachingLib/Guides/Evaluation.html www.freewebs.com/importantsitelinks http://www.libsite.org/ Useful Links: cartographic research online http://www.bl.uk/collections/map_links.html Popular Government Websites http://library.montclair.edu/popgov.html BEST ONLINE REFERENCE SITES http://www.rcls.org/deskref/ A Typology for Ready Reference Websites in Libraries http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue3_5/sowards/index.html#author Regards, S.Sripriya --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? 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FareChase. --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. From emorgan at nd.edu Sat Aug 11 10:23:10 2007 From: emorgan at nd.edu (Eric Lease Morgan) Date: Sat Aug 11 10:17:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] open source software and xml hands-on workshop Message-ID: [Please excuse the cross postings.] At the end of this month I will have the privilege of a presenting a day-long, hands-on workshop on open source software and XML at the Ticer "digital library" school, and I have made much of my presentation available online in the hopes of getting some feedback from you, sets of my peers. Please see: About Ticer - http://tinyurl.com/yso2ey OSS and XML - http://boole.uvt.nl/ The OSS and XML workshop covers things such as: * reading and writing MARC records * indexing and searching MARC records * harvesting and serving metadata via OAI-PMH * moving from MARC to XML * designing and implementing XML vocabularies * transforming XML into other document types * indexing and searching XML * "mashing" content together From the workshop's summary: The combined use of open source software and XML are the current means for getting the most out of your computing infrastructure. Their underlying philosophies are akin to the principles of librarianship. They enable. They empower. They are flexible. They are "free". The way to get from here to there is through a bit of re-training and re-engineering of the way libraries do their work, not what they do but how they do it. Let's not confuse the tools of our profession with the purpose of the profession. If you think libraries and librarianship are about books, MARC, and specific controlled vocabularies, then your future is limited. On the other hand, if you think libraries are about the collection, organization, preservation, and dissemination of data, information, and knowledge, then the future is quite bright. Finally, be forewarned, the link to the workshop is temporary since the hosting machine will be wiped clean as soon as a the day after the workshop. -- Eric Lease Morgan Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department University Libraries of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604 From gerrymck at iastate.edu Sun Aug 12 17:50:26 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Sun Aug 12 17:50:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Top Ten Facebook Apps for Librarians | JSTOR Facebook App In-Reply-To: <46BF3A15.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46BF358C.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46BF396F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46BF3A15.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46BF3A52.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Top Ten Facebook Apps for Librarians | JSTOR Facebook App Friends/ Ellyssa Kroski, a Reference Librarian at Columbia University Butler library, recently posted a Three-Part series on the *Top Ten Facebook Apps for Librarians* on her _iLibrarian_ blog [ http://oedb.org/blogs/ilibrarian/2007/top-ten-facebook-apps-for-librarians-part-one/ ]. TheTopTenLibApps include: *** JSTOR Search - Enables to the user to search the JSTOR full-text scholarly journal archive in the humanities, social science, and other fields. NOTE: Users may need to sign in from their library website before attempting to use the Facebook JSTOR Search _AppAvailableAt_ [ http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=2412474777&b ] --------------------------------------------- *** LibGuides Librarian - Allows one to display Springshare LibGuides subject guides within your Facebook profile as well as to search your local OPAC. BTW: Don*t Forget To Join The Companion Facebook Group At [ http://iastate.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2376238057 ] ----------------------------------------------- *** Librarian -This virtual librarian service provides links to books, scholarly sources, open access reference resources, and a community-based *Ask A Librarian* service. _AppAvailableAt_: [ http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?api_key=4ba85acd652971a6a8633d919bb9a05a ] ------------------------------------------------ *** UIUC Library Search - An App that allows the user to search the OPAC of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign or request live assistance from a librarian. The App also permit the user to search the library*s journal article databases (but not retrieve full-text items unless university-affiliated) Other OPAC Apps: University of Michigan library catalog, , Ryerson University Library catalog, Hennepin County Library catalog. _AppAvailableAt_ [ http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?api_key=ad4ccedf62d21a09bf140d1533102b20&pwstdfy=fa0565221a24b781f7ef3d42d04a9c30 ] ------------------------------------------------------ The Three-Part Series is Available At [1] [ http://oedb.org/blogs/ilibrarian/2007/top-ten-facebook-apps-for-librarians-part-one/ ]. [2] [ http://oedb.org/blogs/ilibrarian/2007/top-ten-facebook-apps-for-librarians-part-two/ ] [3] [ http://oedb.org/blogs/ilibrarian/2007/top-ten-facebook-apps-for-librarians-part-three/ ] If You Have An Unlisted Favorite Facebook Library-Related App, Please Let Ellyssa Know [ http://oedb.org/blogs/ilibrarian/about/ ] ---------------------------------------------------------- BTW-2 If You Have Not Already Done So, Do Join The FacebookAppsForLibraries Group [ http://iastate.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2469777131 ] /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From dreww at tc3.edu Mon Aug 13 08:25:48 2007 From: dreww at tc3.edu (Bill Drew) Date: Mon Aug 13 08:23:44 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: [lita-l] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools Message-ID: I think there is a basic misunderstanding of what a tool is. A tool is used to manipulate or change something. A resource is manipulated or shaped with a tool. Information reosurces are not tools. Wilfred (Bill) Drew Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins-Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ 170 North St. P.O. Box 139 Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dreww@tc3.edu bill.drew@gmail.com Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 My Wiki: http://billdrew.pbwiki.com My Blog:http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com Al Gore quoting an African proverb: "If you want to go quickly, go alone. But if you want to go far, go together." >>> "K.G. Schneider" 8/10/2007 7:18 PM >>> Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." If a dozen self-designated e-learning specialists all bullet-voted for one library-related tool, such as SFX, maybe it might make the list. Karen G. Schneider kgs@freerangelibrarian.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From varnum at umich.edu Mon Aug 13 08:23:52 2007 From: varnum at umich.edu (Ken Varnum) Date: Mon Aug 13 08:23:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? Message-ID: I?m curious on this Monday morning... If your library?s web site has a place where experimental web tools and services are provided for public use and comment, what do you call the page or subsite where you describe those services? We?re trying to name our version and have considered names like ?betas? and ?pilot projects?; I?m curious if there?s a trend out there. Please reply to me directly; I?ll summarize for the list. Ken -- Ken Varnum Web Systems Manager University of Michigan Library E: varnum@umich.edu 309 Harlan Hatcher Graduate Library V: 734-615-3287 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1205 F: 734-647-6897 http://www.lib.umich.edu/ From john.fink at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 08:50:06 2007 From: john.fink at gmail.com (John Fink) Date: Mon Aug 13 08:51:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <502896f40708130550m625bb663r305a1a3e1e98cc67@mail.gmail.com> I call projects that are rattling around somewhere between my brain and public consumption "Skunkworks". jf On 8/13/07, Ken Varnum wrote: > > I?m curious on this Monday morning... If your library?s web site has a > place where experimental web tools and services are provided for public > use > and comment, what do you call the page or subsite where you describe those > services? We?re trying to name our version and have considered names like > ?betas? and ?pilot projects?; I?m curious if there?s a trend out there. > > Please reply to me directly; I?ll summarize for the list. > > Ken > > > -- > Ken Varnum > Web Systems Manager > University of Michigan Library E: varnum@umich.edu > 309 Harlan Hatcher Graduate Library V: 734-615-3287 > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1205 F: 734-647-6897 > http://www.lib.umich.edu/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- http://libgrunt.blogspot.com -- library culture and technology. From kteaze at las-cruces.org Mon Aug 13 10:26:57 2007 From: kteaze at las-cruces.org (Kathleen Teaze) Date: Mon Aug 13 10:27:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position opening Message-ID: Library Manager/Technical Services NATURE OF WORK Plans, coordinates and manages the operations, programs and services of a Technical Services and Acquistions unit and staff in accordance with Library goals and objectives; manages and trains staff to provide effective customer service; performs senior-level librarian duties as required. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: Masters Degree in Library Science, five years experience in a public library environment and one year of experience doing original cataloging required. Supervisory experience. KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS & ABILITIES REQUIRED: Knowledge of: Principles and practices of library technical services administration including personnel rules, budgeting, strategic planning and effective employee supervision; techniques and practices for efficient and cost effective management of resources. Cataloging experience and knowledge of acquisitions, serials, and collection development methods and procedures for developing and maintaining library collections. Experience with Innovative Interfaces library management system desirable. Skills In: Managing staff and delegating tasks and authority; utilizing and maintaining automated library systems and computer equipment; library database research & maintenance; identifying library collection issues and developing suggestions for enhancements; evaluating and determining community needs for library services; using initiative and independent judgment within established procedural guidelines; planning, organizing, and coordinating the work of professional, technical and clerical personnel; working with several disparate computer database systems; providing customer services to and interacting with people of different social, economic, and ethnic backgrounds; recognizing and resolving conflicts in library data entry; organizing workload to keep pace with flow of library materials. For more information and to apply go to: http://www.las-cruces.org/HR/jobs_htm/jobs.htm Kathleen Teaze Library Administrator Thomas Branigan Memorial Library 200 E. Picacho Ave. Las Cruces, NM 88001 505-528-4032 Mobile: 505-202-5820 From pierrenault at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 11:10:51 2007 From: pierrenault at gmail.com (Pierre Nault) Date: Mon Aug 13 11:10:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] About CMS... Message-ID: Hello, The university library where I'm working for is actually searching for a CMS to manage our library web site and intranet. This is our first experience with a CMS and we're searching for an Open Source Solution. We are experiencing with Joomla (on a local machine) but we found that there are some limitations on what you can do with it (few types of users, degrees of profoundness of the site (actually two levels); lack of respect for web standards; limited workflow; few out of the box options; etc.). We have to manage a very big site with different types of users and different types of pages (dynamic content), we were thinking about Drupal or SPIP. Is there anybody working with these two CMS? Do you have any suggestions regarding the choice of a CMS? If you're running your library's web site with a CMS, which one are you using? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------- Pierre Nault Biblioth?caire syst?me Technologies de l'information, Service des biblioth?ques de l'UQAM http://www.bibliotheques.uqam.ca/ From dpapin at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 11:44:15 2007 From: dpapin at gmail.com (Dominique Papin) Date: Mon Aug 13 11:44:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] About CMS... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36adb6110708130844v49ae47f6n67ba181ea2cfd023@mail.gmail.com> Hello Pierre I know you're specifically looking for real experiences using opensource CMS, but i think the following site might still be of interest (if not for you, for some people on this list): http://www.opensourcecms.com/. They installed a lot of open source CMS (and other opensource software) on a server and allow visitors to log in as admin to test them out. The software is installed as new every 2 hours so you don't have to worry about causing fatal errors. Hope it can be usefull.. Dominique Papin Analyste en syst?mes de documentation Universit? du Qu?bec 2007/8/13, Pierre Nault : > > Hello, > > The university library where I'm working for is actually searching for > a > CMS to manage our library web site and intranet. This is our first > experience with a CMS and we're searching for an Open Source Solution. We > are experiencing with Joomla (on a local machine) but we found that there > are some limitations on what you can do with it (few types of users, > degrees > of profoundness of the site (actually two levels); lack of respect for web > standards; limited workflow; few out of the box options; etc.). We have to > manage a very big site with different types of users and different types > of > pages (dynamic content), we were thinking about Drupal or SPIP. Is there > anybody working with these two CMS? Do you have any suggestions regarding > the choice of a CMS? If you're running your library's web site with a CMS, > which one are you using? > > Thanks. > > -------------------------------------------------- > Pierre Nault > Biblioth?caire syst?me > Technologies de l'information, Service des biblioth?ques de l'UQAM > http://www.bibliotheques.uqam.ca/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 13 11:54:47 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Mon Aug 13 11:54:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Amazon's "Askville" (question asking and answering) Message-ID: <579250.12567.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From the FAQ: "Askville is a place where you can share and discuss knowledge with other people by asking and answering questions on any topic. It?s a fun place to meet others with similar interests to you and a place where you can share what you know. You can learn something new everyday or help and meet others using your knowledge. Askville even helps you learn by giving you cool tools to help you find information online while you are answering questions. It?s all about sharing?what you know and what you want to know?so go ahead and meet someone new today and Askville!" http://askville.amazon.com/askville/faq.html Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From listuser at chillco.com Mon Aug 13 11:59:22 2007 From: listuser at chillco.com (Cary Gordon) Date: Mon Aug 13 11:57:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] About CMS... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05ed01c7ddc2$eb87adc0$e502a8c0@medusa> My company provides CMS installation, customization, hosting and training, primarily for libraries. After evaluating several CMS platforms, including Joomla, but not SPIP, which has little traction and community support in the U.S., we chose Drupal as our core platform because of its flexibility. open APIs, and strong developer community. Drupal scales well, although it lacks Oracle compatibility, which makes it a non-starter in some university environments. Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://www.chillco.com -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Nault Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:11 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] About CMS... Hello, The university library where I'm working for is actually searching for a CMS to manage our library web site and intranet. This is our first experience with a CMS and we're searching for an Open Source Solution. We are experiencing with Joomla (on a local machine) but we found that there are some limitations on what you can do with it (few types of users, degrees of profoundness of the site (actually two levels); lack of respect for web standards; limited workflow; few out of the box options; etc.). We have to manage a very big site with different types of users and different types of pages (dynamic content), we were thinking about Drupal or SPIP. Is there anybody working with these two CMS? Do you have any suggestions regarding the choice of a CMS? If you're running your library's web site with a CMS, which one are you using? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------- Pierre Nault Biblioth?caire syst?me Technologies de l'information, Service des biblioth?ques de l'UQAM http://www.bibliotheques.uqam.ca/ From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 13 12:10:56 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:24:28 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Re: No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <960037.48971.qm@web57112.mail.re3.yahoo.com> So is an OPAC a tool or a resource? Bernie Sloan Bill Drew wrote: I think there is a basic misunderstanding of what a tool is. A tool is used to manipulate or change something. A resource is manipulated or shaped with a tool. Information reosurces are not tools. Wilfred (Bill) Drew Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins-Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ 170 North St. P.O. Box 139 Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dreww@tc3.edu bill.drew@gmail.com Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 My Wiki: http://billdrew.pbwiki.com My Blog:http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com Al Gore quoting an African proverb: "If you want to go quickly, go alone. But if you want to go far, go together." >>> "K.G. Schneider" 8/10/2007 7:18 PM >>> Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." If a dozen self-designated e-learning specialists all bullet-voted for one library-related tool, such as SFX, maybe it might make the list. Karen G. Schneider kgs@freerangelibrarian.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From johnston at virginia.edu Mon Aug 13 12:15:43 2007 From: johnston at virginia.edu (Leslie Johnston) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:24:56 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070813161548.81EA31F5169@fork7.mail.virginia.edu> We call ours Library Lab, riffing off Google labs: http://lab.lib.virginia.edu/index.html At 08:23 AM 8/13/2007, Ken Varnum wrote: >I?m curious on this Monday morning... If your library?s web site has a >place where experimental web tools and services are provided for public use >and comment, what do you call the page or subsite where you describe those >services? We?re trying to name our version and have considered names like >?betas? and ?pilot projects?; I?m curious if there?s a trend out there. > >Please reply to me directly; I?ll summarize for the list. > >Ken > > >-- >Ken Varnum >Web Systems Manager >University of Michigan Library E: varnum@umich.edu >309 Harlan Hatcher Graduate Library V: 734-615-3287 >Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1205 F: 734-647-6897 >http://www.lib.umich.edu/ > > > >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ ------------ Leslie Johnston Head, Digital Access Services University of Virginia Library http://lib.virginia.edu/digital/ http://lib.virginia.edu/digital/das/ johnston@virginia.edu From JBalducci at iona.edu Mon Aug 13 12:32:15 2007 From: JBalducci at iona.edu (Balducci, Joseph) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:39:56 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ILL forms and openURL Message-ID: <7C327C42E02DA44EBAB53CFB9E19613D100C96CA@nrmail1.iona.edu> For Interlibrary Loan/Document Delivery requests we have a ColdFusion based form on our website. I'd like to update this form so it can read openURLs and auto-populate the fields it recognizes (like ILLIAD and others do). Has anyone done this or know of a website with instructions? Thanks! Joe --- Joseph Balducci CELTIC, Media Technology Iona College (914) 633-2353 From mindspiral at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 12:38:20 2007 From: mindspiral at gmail.com (Brian Gray) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:41:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools In-Reply-To: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <259869.14370.qm@web57101.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I posted my thoughts at my blog: http://blog.case.edu/bcg8/2007/08/08/resources_data_or_tools Brian Gray mindspiral@gmail.com On 8/8/07, B.G. Sloan wrote: > > Interesting blurb from Brock Read at the Chronicle of Higher Education: > > http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=2288 > > Basically there are no library resources on The Centre for Learning & Performance Technologies' list of Top 100 Tools for Learning. > > Steven Bell suggests at ACRLog (http://tinyurl.com/2rxvmk) that it may be "a case of our failing to create awareness about these resources to the faculty and researchers who should identify them as valuable e-learning resources." > > But Read (referring to comments by Stephen Downes, a senior researcher for Canada's National Research Council) suggests that perhaps "the lack of library services on the list could be evidence of bad tools, not a lack of publicity." > > Bernie Sloan > > > --------------------------------- > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From dreww at tc3.edu Mon Aug 13 12:46:22 2007 From: dreww at tc3.edu (Bill Drew) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:51:55 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] [lita-l] Re: No library resources on list of top 100 learning tools Message-ID: It is obviously a tool since an OPAC in the traditional sense can not provide content, only pointers to find content. Bill Drew Wilfred (Bill) Drew Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins-Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ 170 North St. P.O. Box 139 Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dreww@tc3.edu bill.drew@gmail.com Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 My Wiki: http://billdrew.pbwiki.com My Blog:http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com Al Gore quoting an African proverb: "If you want to go quickly, go alone. But if you want to go far, go together." >>> bgsloan2@yahoo.com 8/13/2007 12:10 PM >>> So is an OPAC a tool or a resource? Bernie Sloan From WrightJ at library.phila.gov Mon Aug 13 12:56:43 2007 From: WrightJ at library.phila.gov (Wright, Jen) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:59:14 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases In-Reply-To: <46B8913E.4070706@uoregon.edu> References: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu><4c5c30910708061702pccdd44dm1b95248ba5512ec1@mail.gmail.com> <46B8913E.4070706@uoregon.edu> Message-ID: We have a few resources that have had Firefox issues, but they are getting up to speed. Tutor.com looks like it just added Firefox support and we can't order downloadable media from Overdrive in Firefox. -Jen Jennifer R Wright Electronic/Digital Resources Coordinator Free Library of Philadelphia 215.686.2874 www.library.phila.gov -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sara Brownmiller Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:35 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases Thanks to all who have responded. Responses seem to focus primarily on the configurability of Web browsers. What I am most interested in learning is whether you are aware of databases or electronic resources that you have licensed that will not work with a specific browser, or version of a browser. For example, we subscribe to Mediamark Reporter. To generate the reports, you must use Internet Explorer or Netscape. When you try to connect to the site with Firefox, the site does a browser check, tells you that you don't meet one of the access requirements, and suggests that you make an adjustment. Does anyone know of any other resources that have such restrictions? Sara > > On 8/6/07, Sara Brownmiller wrote: >> We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing >> whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer >> Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically >> offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the >> major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform >> as expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good >> performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that >> specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? >> >> I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that >> might provide an answer. >> >> thanks, Sara >> >> -- >> >> >> Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon >> Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of >> Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >> snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) >> _______________________________________________ >> Web4lib mailing list >> Web4lib@webjunction.org >> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ >> > > -- Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From lists at lisnews.com Mon Aug 13 12:57:01 2007 From: lists at lisnews.com (Blake Carver) Date: Mon Aug 13 12:59:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] The Current State Of Full-text Searching in Books Message-ID: <443e04510708130957i600dc32dw812b07daab976e9c@mail.gmail.com> Just posted this one to LISNews: http://features.lisnews.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/13/1653245 Scott Boren has a great look at electronic searching of the full-text of books. He covers Several Book Search Web Sites, Text Archives for older materials, Proprietary Book Search sites, some Smaller Collections, Google Book Search, some Emerging Projects, and some sites for Further Reading. -Blake Carver LISNews.org From kcoyle at kcoyle.net Mon Aug 13 13:27:33 2007 From: kcoyle at kcoyle.net (Karen Coyle) Date: Mon Aug 13 13:33:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Amazon's "Askville" (question asking and answering) In-Reply-To: <579250.12567.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <579250.12567.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46C09485.1080302@kcoyle.net> Uh, is it just me or do the product recommendations along with the answers make this seem "shill-ish"? Personally, I rarely mention products in my discussions with folks. But these people seem to do it all of the time. kc B.G. Sloan wrote: > > From the FAQ: > > "Askville is a place where you can share and discuss knowledge with other people by asking and answering questions on any topic. It?s a fun place to meet others with similar interests to you and a place where you can share what you know. You can learn something new everyday or help and meet others using your knowledge. Askville even helps you learn by giving you cool tools to help you find information online while you are answering questions. It?s all about sharing?what you know and what you want to know?so go ahead and meet someone new today and Askville!" > > http://askville.amazon.com/askville/faq.html > > Bernie Sloan > > > --------------------------------- > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > -- ----------------------------------- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234 ------------------------------------ From robin.hastings at gmail.com Mon Aug 13 14:23:03 2007 From: robin.hastings at gmail.com (Robin Hastings) Date: Mon Aug 13 14:23:08 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] About CMS... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 8/13/07, Pierre Nault wrote: > Hello, > > The university library where I'm working for is actually searching for a > CMS to manage our library web site and intranet. This is our first > experience with a CMS and we're searching for an Open Source Solution. We > are experiencing with Joomla (on a local machine) but we found that there > are some limitations on what you can do with it (few types of users, degrees > of profoundness of the site (actually two levels); lack of respect for web > standards; limited workflow; few out of the box options; etc.). We have to > manage a very big site with different types of users and different types of > pages (dynamic content), we were thinking about Drupal or SPIP. Is there > anybody working with these two CMS? Do you have any suggestions regarding > the choice of a CMS? If you're running your library's web site with a CMS, > which one are you using? > > Thanks. We are using Drupal for our Intranet right now and planning to migrate our current site to Drupal in the near future. I tried out Joomla and Mambo as well, but Drupal seemed to be the easiest for people to get, and the easiest for me to administrate. -- Robin Hastings robin.hastings@gmail.com http://www.rhastings.net From lars at aronsson.se Mon Aug 13 15:02:15 2007 From: lars at aronsson.se (Lars Aronsson) Date: Mon Aug 13 15:00:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ken Varnum wrote: > I?m curious on this Monday morning... If your library?s web site has a > place where experimental web tools and services are provided for public use > and comment, what do you call the page or subsite where you describe those Eight years ago(*), the answer would have been your institution's name followed by "Labs", because all the dotcom startups thought that "Bell Labs" (where UNIX was created) sounded cool. And "our little technology playground" is just an embarrassing synonym. The worst example is "Google Labs", http://labs.google.com/ And that's older than calling every new thing a "beta" or "2.0". (*) And therefore, not anymore!!! Please! This has long since passed off of Wired Magazine's "wired, tired, expired" radar screen. Some pathetic examples of "not getting" this: http://labs.eventful.com/ http://labs.oshlack.com/ http://labs.metacarta.com/ http://labs.adobe.com/ http://labs.silverorange.com/ http://labs.autodesk.com/ http://labs.opera.com/ Lund University libraries used to have a "Netlab", but has wisely stopped using that name a few years ago, as can be seen here, http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lub.lu.se/netlab I'm not sure what's "wired" today, but perhaps a touch of steampunk? Launch things with brass ornaments and dark varnish, rather than shining new applications in beta. More like "we've taken this old application down from the attic", rather than "developed this new beta in our lab". Old is the new new. Instead of bragging about having replaced the card catalog with a computer, tell your patrons of when your library *introduced* the card catalog (in 1895 or 1915?) and what was used *before* that. Make a point of the fact that your library is *older* than Google. They can't really beat that. (But they could close down the "Labs" name and they could rewarp Google Book Search in steampunk, so watch out!) If you think a video interview with Brewster Kahle is an everyday item, just look at how the German business magazine Handelsblatt has framed this in their "Elektrischer Reporter" weekly video. (That's 1940s electric, not 1980s electronic or 1990s digital.) The interview is in English with German subtitles, and starts one minute into the video, but it's the first (and last two) minutes (in German) that I want you to watch, made in 2007, http://www.elektrischer-reporter.de/index.php/site/film/13/ The 2007 OpenLibrary website, http://demo.openlibrary.org/ definitely looks more "old" than the still very "2.0" LibraryThing from 2005, http://www.librarything.com/ -- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se From patrick.danowski at web.de Mon Aug 13 15:06:37 2007 From: patrick.danowski at web.de (Patrick Danowski) Date: Mon Aug 13 15:06:40 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] About CMS... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c0f8c1f0708131206r6402b356mab6b8fbfe5f5cffd@mail.gmail.com> Hello Pierre, in the moment I'm working in a project to implement a CMS at our library. We decided to use TYPO3 (http://www.typo3.org) because some other information institutions already use it and we have also a really big web site and some domains to care about. Also there are a lot of plug ins and its very big community but the biggest party of the community is in Europe when i see that right. There are also a lot of consultants for Typo3 here in Germany, what was an other reason to choose this system. Greetings from Berlin, Germany Patrick Danowski 2007/8/13, Pierre Nault : > > Hello, > > The university library where I'm working for is actually searching for > a > CMS to manage our library web site and intranet. This is our first > experience with a CMS and we're searching for an Open Source Solution. We > are experiencing with Joomla (on a local machine) but we found that there > are some limitations on what you can do with it (few types of users, > degrees > of profoundness of the site (actually two levels); lack of respect for web > standards; limited workflow; few out of the box options; etc.). We have to > manage a very big site with different types of users and different types > of > pages (dynamic content), we were thinking about Drupal or SPIP. Is there > anybody working with these two CMS? Do you have any suggestions regarding > the choice of a CMS? If you're running your library's web site with a CMS, > which one are you using? > > Thanks. > > -------------------------------------------------- > Pierre Nault > Biblioth?caire syst?me > Technologies de l'information, Service des biblioth?ques de l'UQAM > http://www.bibliotheques.uqam.ca/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From lars at aronsson.se Mon Aug 13 18:56:38 2007 From: lars at aronsson.se (Lars Aronsson) Date: Mon Aug 13 18:54:28 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] The Current State Of Full-text Searching in Books In-Reply-To: <443e04510708130957i600dc32dw812b07daab976e9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <443e04510708130957i600dc32dw812b07daab976e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Blake Carver wrote: > Just posted this one to LISNews: > http://features.lisnews.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/13/1653245 > > Scott Boren has a great look at electronic searching of the full-text > of books. He covers Several Book Search Web Sites, Text Archives for To that list, one could add the new German website www.zeno.org, where you can search several old German encyclopedias. Try to enter "England" and hit Enter. It looks nice and clean, much because it prioritizes hits in headwords above fulltext hits. When you click a search hit, a text version of the page displays. If you see something like [43=>] and click that, you get a scanned page display instead. Or look for the word "Faksimiles:" near the bottom of the page. This is a new service from the people at DirectMedia/Zenodot in Berlin, who also produce the German Wikipedia on DVD. -- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 13 22:08:11 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Mon Aug 13 22:08:14 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web 2.0: Andrew Keen vs Emily Bell Message-ID: <11188.2801.qm@web57104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Good debate from the Guardian (UK) on the pros and cons of Web 2.0: http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/take_two/2007/08/andrew_keen_v_emily_bell.html Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From lbspodic at ust.hk Tue Aug 14 02:35:19 2007 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick) Date: Tue Aug 14 02:35:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases In-Reply-To: References: <20070727160008.0C38F189AFF@lists.webjunction.org> <46B7B1C6.9070002@uoregon.edu> <4c5c30910708061702pccdd44dm1b95248ba5512ec1@mail.gmail.com> <46B8913E.4070706@uoregon.edu> Message-ID: We have had several with MSIE-specific limitations, some of which truly failed on other OS/Browser combos even when spoofing the MSIE useragent string. Most of these have since become more accessible, but not all. Several have limitations now only on older browsers of various flavors (e.g. Telford e-journals, among many others), but that's fine here. WIPSGlobal requires MSIE for their search function. They also require Windows-only plugins for a few added features, but the search functionality should be more cross-browser. (http://www.wipsglobal.com/) Until fairly recently (12-18 months ago?), one of our most popular databases was MSIE only, although some functions worked on the older MSIE for MacOS - not the search function. Fortunately, they finally redesigned everything to work more cross-browser. The database was WiseNews at http://libwisenews.wisers.net/ Our reference librarians have flagged certain resource descriptions with MSIE-specific limitation notes. The main web site for one of the two terrestrial television broadcast companies in Hong Kong requires MSIE to view their programming streams, although I have managed to spoof them a few times with Safari on a Mac - but with much less functionality. There are also several banks here whose online banking requires a windows platform with MSIE, but I am not sure those would fall in the purview of your question. Basically, these sort of access problems for electronic subscriptions seem to be fading out, fortunately for my workload. :) Edward F Spodick, Information Technology Manager Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library lbspodic@ust.hk tel:852-2358-6743 fax:852-2358-1043 p.s. -- Oh, yes - I should mention that the library catalog of the National LIbrary of China was running a very highly rated international ILS for several years (Ex Libris), but the interface was configured in such a way that only MSIE could view the catalog, or even get amn interface which was not garbage characters. MSIE on both Windows and Macintosh worked, but nothing else. That *really* gave me a negative opinion of that product for a number of years, even though I was pretty sure this could have been configured to work for all. This is a sample page which used to fail, and now works: http://210.82.118.4:8080/F They now have a specific English language login, although the URL is a bit much At 12:56 PM -0400 8/13/07, Wright, Jen wrote: > >We have a few resources that have had Firefox issues, but they are >getting up to speed. Tutor.com looks like it just added Firefox support >and we can't order downloadable media from Overdrive in Firefox.? > >-Jen > >Jennifer R Wright >Electronic/Digital Resources Coordinator >Free Library of Philadelphia >215.686.2874 >www.library.phila.gov > >-----Original Message----- >From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org >[mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sara Brownmiller >Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:35 AM >To: web4lib@webjunction.org >Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Web browsers and library databases > >Thanks to all who have responded. Responses seem to focus primarily on >the configurability of Web browsers. > >What I am most interested in learning is whether you are aware of >databases or electronic resources that you have licensed that will not >work with a specific browser, or version of a browser. For example, we >subscribe to Mediamark Reporter. To generate the reports, you must use >Internet Explorer or Netscape. When you try to connect to the site with >Firefox, the site does a browser check, tells you that you don't meet >one of the access requirements, and suggests that you make an >adjustment. > >Does anyone know of any other resources that have such restrictions? > >Sara > > >> >> On 8/6/07, Sara Brownmiller wrote: > >> We are upgrading our public workstations this fall and are reviewing >>> whether to offer only Internet Explorer or whether to also offer >>> Firefox. Has anyone compiled a list of databases/resources typically > >>> offered by a library and whether they are fully compatible with the >>> major browsers and versions? For example, do most databases perform >>> as expected in Internet Explorer 7, as opposed to 6? Do you get good > >>> performance with Firefox? Do you know of databases/resources that >>> specifically have problems either with IE7 or with Firefox? >>> >>> I've done some quick Web searching and haven't seen anything that >>> might provide an answer. >>> >>> thanks, Sara >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Sara Brownmiller . . . . . . . . . . . University of Oregon >>> Libraries Director, Library Systems . . . . . . . 1299 University of >>> Oregon Women's Studies Librarian . . . . . . . Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >>> snb@uoregon.edu . . . . . . . . . . . . 541-346-2368 (voice) > >> _______________________________________________ From rdickey at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 09:56:20 2007 From: rdickey at gmail.com (Rachel Holderied) Date: Tue Aug 14 09:58:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] DiscoverStation Message-ID: Good morning, My library is looking to purchase a computer and print management system. So far I am leaning towards DiscoverStation by Userful. Has anyone had any experience with this product? Thanks so much! Rachel Rachel Holderied Adult Services Dept. Head Robeson County Public Library Lumberton, NC From jlk34n at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 10:15:36 2007 From: jlk34n at gmail.com (James Knight) Date: Tue Aug 14 11:01:04 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] loading ebooks locally / archive? Message-ID: <7e5557150708140715r247ff732j75e3fff962793311@mail.gmail.com> Folks, For those of you out there who get backup copies (ftp download, CD; XML/PDF) of your ebook purchases from the likes of Gale, Ovid, et al., do you have plans to, or actually make use of this content by loading it into local DBs or exposing it on a search UI? If so, what technology is (or might be) involved? I know that most libraries nowadays post holdings records for these titles in their OPACs, but beyond that (and this really is a separate question), what other tools do you use to expose ebook content on your library's web(s). Thanks. -JamesK -- full disclosure: I work as a field engr for one of these companies, and am, amidst much conjecture by marketing and product managers, trying to get my head around just how exactly our constituency might use an electronic copy of a reference book, besides protecting the finish of ones desk from coffee stains ;o) From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 14 11:07:32 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Tue Aug 14 11:10:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] A Brief Survey of Google Books Message-ID: <355572.16088.qm@web57108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Duguid, Paul. Inheritance and loss? A brief survey of Google Books. First Monday, 12(8). August 2007. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue12_8/duguid/index.html From the conclusion: "The Google Books Project is no doubt an important, in many ways invaluable, project. It is also, on the brief evidence given here, a highly problematic one. Relying on the power of its search tools, Google has ignored elemental metadata, such as volume numbers. The quality of its scanning (and so we may presume its searching) is at times completely inadequate. The editions offered (by search or by sale) are, at best, regrettable." Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From haili at mtu.edu Tue Aug 14 11:23:36 2007 From: haili at mtu.edu (Haihua Li) Date: Tue Aug 14 11:40:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Opening Message-ID: <46C1C8F8.9080804@mtu.edu> Please excuse duplication caused by cross-posting. ** Senior System Administrator/Programmer** The J. R. Van Pelt/Opie Library at Michigan Technological University invites applications for a Senior System Administrator/Programmer to administer the Library?s Voyager Library Management System (LMS). The successful applicant will provide and maintain hardware and software systems for the LMS and serve as the primary technical support contact for library staff in resolving problems in the Voyager staff systems, webVoyage, and supporting programs. Applicants must have a Bachelor?s degree and four years experience with UNIX. Michigan Tech has one of the largest engineering programs in the country and offers quality programs in the sciences, business, technology, communications, and forestry environmental sciences. The University has just completed a state-of-the-art addition and total renovation of the Library. This versatile new facility is envisioned as an innovative and creative physical space in which traditional educational boundaries are minimized. The Library seeks applicants with a similar interest in providing services in progressive and innovative ways. To view the complete job description online, visit: http://www.admin.mtu.edu/hro/postings/srsysadminprogmr5libraryaug082007.07595.pdf Michigan Tech is located in Houghton on the Keweenaw Peninsula in Upper Michigan. Houghton was named one of the ?10 Top Adrenaline Outposts? by the National Geographic Adventure Magazine. In addition to offering year-round recreational activities, the local area is home to a growing arts community and the University boasts the Rozsa Center for the Performing Arts, an outstanding performing arts venue. To apply, complete a Michigan Tech application form online at: http://www.admin.mtu.edu/hro/postings/indexs.shtml Send a cover letter, resume, and names of three (3) references to: Michigan Technological University Human Resources 1400 Townsend Dr. Houghton, MI 49931-1295 Michigan Technological University is an Equal Opportunity Educational Institution, Equal Opportunity Employer. -- Haihua Li Web Services Librarian Collection Management & Reference J. Robert Van Pelt and John and Ruanne Opie Library Michigan Technological Univeristy 1400 Townsend Drive Houghton, MI 49931 Phone: 906-487-1482 Fax: 906-487-2357 Office: Library 223 Email: haili@mtu.edu From varnum at umich.edu Tue Aug 14 11:51:51 2007 From: varnum at umich.edu (Ken Varnum) Date: Tue Aug 14 11:51:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank to those who sent in replies. Here's the summary, with links where supplied. "Labs" or some version thereof is the most frequently used. Labs Library Lab (University of Virginia: http://lab.lib.virginia.edu/index.html) Library Labs (Syracuse) PennLab (University of Pennsylvania: http://labs.library.upenn.edu/) Pilot Labs (Vanderbilt: http://testpilot.library.vanderbilt.edu/) Sandbox (Colorado State University: internal use only) Sandbox (Monroe County Public Library, Florida) Skunkworks Toolbar Search Plugins (St. Mary's: http://www.smu.ca/administration/library/toolbarsearch.html) Ken -- Ken Varnum Web Systems Manager University of Michigan Library E: varnum@umich.edu 309 Harlan Hatcher Graduate Library V: 734-615-3287 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1205 F: 734-647-6897 http://www.lib.umich.edu/ > From: Ken Varnum > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:23:52 -0400 > To: Web4Lib Listserv > Conversation: What do you call your library's experimental web site? > Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? > > I?m curious on this Monday morning... If your library?s web site has a > place where experimental web tools and services are provided for public use > and comment, what do you call the page or subsite where you describe those > services? We?re trying to name our version and have considered names like > ?betas? and ?pilot projects?; I?m curious if there?s a trend out there. > > Please reply to me directly; I?ll summarize for the list. > > Ken > > > -- > Ken Varnum > Web Systems Manager > University of Michigan Library E: varnum@umich.edu > 309 Harlan Hatcher Graduate Library V: 734-615-3287 > Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1205 F: 734-647-6897 > http://www.lib.umich.edu/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From jtgorman at uiuc.edu Tue Aug 14 13:30:49 2007 From: jtgorman at uiuc.edu (Jonathan Gorman) Date: Tue Aug 14 13:34:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] loading ebooks locally / archive? Message-ID: <20070814123049.AVN21791@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu> > >-JamesK > >-- full disclosure: I work as a field engr for one of these companies, and >am, amidst much conjecture by marketing and product managers, trying to get >my head around just how exactly our constituency might use an electronic >copy of a reference book, besides protecting the finish of ones desk from >coffee stains ;o) I'll give my own disclosure. I'm not speaking out of any great experience or knowledge of ebooks. I'm certainly not speaking on behalf of my own employer. But in this situation I would imagine many people would be quite cautious about making these things available. At least as how you stated your question, backup copies are precisely that - backup copies. Given the standing of current copyright law, the DMCA, and most licensing agreements I imagine there would be great liability risks with making these copies publicly available or even using them for purposes other than backups. In an ideal world, I could see plenty of uses. Creating our own indexes for people searching, harvesting the reference materials to improve controlled vocabularies and make connections between other materials, performing textual analysis to see how this book compares to others and I'm sure I could come up with more with just a little bit of thinking. There's a whole wealth of things that could be done with ebooks in proper formats. These are all technically feasible now but are a legal landmine. Could I conjecture that what you're really asking about is what we would do with ebook content sold or given to us under an extremely permissive license? Jon Gorman >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From skowalcz at indiana.edu Tue Aug 14 14:10:21 2007 From: skowalcz at indiana.edu (Kowalczyk, Stacy T) Date: Tue Aug 14 14:10:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] IU Digital Library Usability & Interface Specialist Job Posting Message-ID: <20070814141021.mu9e5a4ckggw40ww@webmail.iu.edu> The Indiana University Digital Library Program has an immediate opening for a Usability and Interface Specialist (http://www.indiana.edu/~uitshr/services/jobs/Usability_11653.html). If interested, you must apply online at http://www.indiana.edu/%7Euhrs/jobs/index.html. Refer to position number #00011653. Usability and Interface Specialist - PA12/PA13 Under moderate supervision, the Usability and Interface Specialist (UIS) will work collaboratively with members of the Digital Library Program (DLP) and others to develop user-centered designs for web sites and applications that deliver digital collections, resources, and services to Indiana University affiliates including students, faculty and researchers and the general public. Responsibilities include: evaluating user needs following standard usability methods, establishing user requirements, designing prototypes and production user interfaces, and implementing and testing final designs according to web and accessibility standards and best practices. In the course of project development, the UIS will participate in planning, formulating objectives, and preparing proposals that inform the design of a digital resource; developing interfaces for web sites and web applications; preparing technical documentation; writing help documentation and other contextual content; and providing training. The UIS will coordinate usability assessment for the DLP and serve as a usability consultant for the Libraries. QUALIFICATIONS Required: A bachelor's degree and 2-3 years of related experience is required; advanced study or equivalent research experience is highly desirable Experience and/or training in the following areas: formal usability test design, implementation, and reporting Experience in graphic and/or user interface design Expert knowledge of web design standards (HTML/XHTML, CSS, JavaScript) Experience in the development of complex web sites Experience in the use of Windows, Macintosh, and Unix systems Experience in the use of an academic library and online information resources Excellent written and oral communication skills Must work well in a team environment Preferred: Experience in systems analysis or programming of complex software systems Experience with XML and XML-related technologies such as XST and XSLT Familiarity with metadata and document representation standards such as MODS, Dublin Core, MARC, METS, TEI and EAD From toddl at nwrel.org Tue Aug 14 14:24:14 2007 From: toddl at nwrel.org (Lisa Todd) Date: Tue Aug 14 14:24:23 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] (no subject) Message-ID: This might be an odd question to ask, but here goes anyway... I am one of two librarians in a small private research library. Recently, some staff researchers have written myself and my coworker into 2 years of a 5 year federal grant to study math and science education. One of the stipulations of our being part of this research is that we have to document systematic search strategies for literature reviews. Our company has just purchased Reference Manager as a means for managing bibliographies in the course of the research. As my coworker and I worked through Reference Manager's tutorial, we noticed that there is no means for us to document our search strategies via this software. Which is why I'm posting this long-winded explanation and questions here. Does anyone know whether Reference Manager does have the ability to allow us to document our search strategies, and attach each search string to a specific citation? If Reference Manager doesn't have this capability, is there such a software available which will help us with this required documentation? Someone from another listserv has suggested Trexy (http://trexy.com/index.html), which might solve the problem. But if anyone else has an idea for us, let me know. Thanks to anyone who can help us with this dilemma! Lisa R. Todd Professional Library Northwest Regional Educational Laboratory 101 SW Main St., Suite 500 Portland, OR 97204 503-275-9555 Books are the compasses and telescopes and sextants and charts which other men have prepared to help us navigate the dangerous seas of human life. -Jesse Lee Bennett From richard.wiggins at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 15:24:38 2007 From: richard.wiggins at gmail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Tue Aug 14 15:24:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow! Such vitriol over a single word. I think the expression "from our labs" or "in the labs" is pretty common, and it's a very apt, descriptive metaphor. "Beta" isn't supposed to mean "new"; it's supposed to be "still in test phase". You can diss Google for messing up the meaning of "beta" -- I'm typing this using Gmail, now in beta for 3 years with millions of satisfied customers -- but I see no reason to gainsay labs.google.com, where they really do experiment. I suppose it might come off as a tad pretentious to use the term when you're not really a research or development organization. test.acme.org would work. We've used new.xxxx.msu.edu a time or two. /rich On 8/13/07, Lars Aronsson wrote: > > Ken Varnum wrote: > > Eight years ago(*), the answer would have been your institution's > name followed by "Labs", because all the dotcom startups thought > that "Bell Labs" (where UNIX was created) sounded cool. And "our > little technology playground" is just an embarrassing synonym. The > worst example is "Google Labs", http://labs.google.com/ > > And that's older than calling every new thing a "beta" or "2.0". > > (*) And therefore, not anymore!!! Please! This has long since > passed off of Wired Magazine's "wired, tired, expired" radar > screen. Some pathetic examples of "not getting" this: > > http://labs.eventful.com/ > > http://labs.oshlack.com/ > > http://labs.metacarta.com/ > > http://labs.adobe.com/ > > http://labs.silverorange.com/ > > http://labs.autodesk.com/ > > http://labs.opera.com/ > > Lund University libraries used to have a "Netlab", but has wisely > stopped using that name a few years ago, as can be seen here, > http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lub.lu.se/netlab > > I'm not sure what's "wired" today, but perhaps a touch of > steampunk? Launch things with brass ornaments and dark varnish, > rather than shining new applications in beta. More like "we've > taken this old application down from the attic", rather than > "developed this new beta in our lab". Old is the new new. > > Instead of bragging about having replaced the card catalog with a > computer, tell your patrons of when your library *introduced* the > card catalog (in 1895 or 1915?) and what was used *before* that. > Make a point of the fact that your library is *older* than Google. > They can't really beat that. (But they could close down the > "Labs" name and they could rewarp Google Book Search in steampunk, > so watch out!) > > If you think a video interview with Brewster Kahle is an everyday > item, just look at how the German business magazine Handelsblatt > has framed this in their "Elektrischer Reporter" weekly video. > (That's 1940s electric, not 1980s electronic or 1990s digital.) > The interview is in English with German subtitles, and starts one > minute into the video, but it's the first (and last two) minutes > (in German) that I want you to watch, made in 2007, > http://www.elektrischer-reporter.de/index.php/site/film/13/ > > The 2007 OpenLibrary website, http://demo.openlibrary.org/ > definitely looks more "old" than the still very "2.0" > LibraryThing from 2005, http://www.librarything.com/ > > > -- > Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) > Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 14 18:04:23 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Tue Aug 14 18:04:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] What do you call your library's experimental web site? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <226360.62936.qm@web57108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Lars Aronson said: "Please! This has long since passed off of Wired Magazine's "wired, tired, expired" radar screen." Speaking of outdated terms, is it just me, or is the word "wired" getting a little "tired" itself? I've always thought it was ironic that Wired used the "wired, tired, expired" scale. With all the emphasis on being wireless lately, the term "wired" almost seems quaintly old-school. Funny that a magazine that keeps tabs on the latest technologies still ties itself to the old wired world. :-) Bernie Sloan Lars Aronsson wrote: Ken Varnum wrote: > I?m curious on this Monday morning... If your library?s web site has a > place where experimental web tools and services are provided for public use > and comment, what do you call the page or subsite where you describe those Eight years ago(*), the answer would have been your institution's name followed by "Labs", because all the dotcom startups thought that "Bell Labs" (where UNIX was created) sounded cool. And "our little technology playground" is just an embarrassing synonym. The worst example is "Google Labs", http://labs.google.com/ And that's older than calling every new thing a "beta" or "2.0". (*) And therefore, not anymore!!! Please! This has long since passed off of Wired Magazine's "wired, tired, expired" radar screen. Some pathetic examples of "not getting" this: http://labs.eventful.com/ http://labs.oshlack.com/ http://labs.metacarta.com/ http://labs.adobe.com/ http://labs.silverorange.com/ http://labs.autodesk.com/ http://labs.opera.com/ Lund University libraries used to have a "Netlab", but has wisely stopped using that name a few years ago, as can be seen here, http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lub.lu.se/netlab I'm not sure what's "wired" today, but perhaps a touch of steampunk? Launch things with brass ornaments and dark varnish, rather than shining new applications in beta. More like "we've taken this old application down from the attic", rather than "developed this new beta in our lab". Old is the new new. Instead of bragging about having replaced the card catalog with a computer, tell your patrons of when your library *introduced* the card catalog (in 1895 or 1915?) and what was used *before* that. Make a point of the fact that your library is *older* than Google. They can't really beat that. (But they could close down the "Labs" name and they could rewarp Google Book Search in steampunk, so watch out!) If you think a video interview with Brewster Kahle is an everyday item, just look at how the German business magazine Handelsblatt has framed this in their "Elektrischer Reporter" weekly video. (That's 1940s electric, not 1980s electronic or 1990s digital.) The interview is in English with German subtitles, and starts one minute into the video, but it's the first (and last two) minutes (in German) that I want you to watch, made in 2007, http://www.elektrischer-reporter.de/index.php/site/film/13/ The 2007 OpenLibrary website, http://demo.openlibrary.org/ definitely looks more "old" than the still very "2.0" LibraryThing from 2005, http://www.librarything.com/ -- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. From marshall.breeding at vanderbilt.edu Tue Aug 14 20:33:04 2007 From: marshall.breeding at vanderbilt.edu (Marshall Breeding) Date: Tue Aug 14 20:33:18 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Automation Survey Message-ID: I am conducting a survey on library automation trends. The survey aims to measure how well libraries are satisfied with their automation systems and the companies or other organizations that support them. It also attempts to get some indication of whether libraries are looking favorably on open source software for their automation system. The survey works through the lib-web-cats directory within the Library Technology Guides web site. This approach eliminates the need to retype any demographic information regarding your library. You will just need to navigate to your library in lib-web-cats. Here are the instructions on how to complete the survey: http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-survey-2007.pl I am hoping to get a very large response to this survey. I will publish the results of the study in an upcoming article, provided I get enough responses to ensure its validity. Thanks in advance for taking the time to participate in the survey. Please contact me directly if you have any problems accessing or completing the survey. -Marshall Breeding ----------------------------------------------------------------- Marshall Breeding Director for Innovative Technologies and Research Vanderbilt University Library 615-343-6094 Editor, Library Technology Guides http://www.librarytechnology.org From janettetreanor at gmail.com Tue Aug 14 21:49:42 2007 From: janettetreanor at gmail.com (janette treanor) Date: Tue Aug 14 21:49:44 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] alternative client communication technologies Message-ID: Morning. I am investigating alternative client communication technologies in order to offer additional, effective, efficient, low cost ways for our clients to contact us for information. At the moment, I am looking to test an SMS service, an IM service and a VoIP service. I would like to offer full range of text, voice, video with possible desktop sharing for training and demonstrating. I would like to learn from your experience and hear your advice ;-) Does anyone have any tip, tricks, does, donts, reports, papers, articles, statistics, survey results, how it worked best for you, what didn't work for you, and so on that you are able to share? If the results of this project become a conference presentation, I can share the information with anyone interested. Thank you in advance and enjoy the rest of the day janette From lbspodic at ust.hk Tue Aug 14 21:25:48 2007 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick) Date: Tue Aug 14 22:28:02 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] loading ebooks locally / archive? In-Reply-To: <7e5557150708140715r247ff732j75e3fff962793311@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e5557150708140715r247ff732j75e3fff962793311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We keep the archive. We have no current plans to do anything with them. We would like to have the option to actually do so. I was surprised to learn that some of the archives are quite incomplete and almost totally useless. Our Gale reference e-book archives, for example, are XML files with a DTD file reference, but the DTD file itself is not provided, which makes it difficult to even validate the data; and many elements of the content, such as graphics, are also not included in the so-called "archive". Edward F Spodick, Information Technology Manager Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library lbspodic@ust.hk tel:852-2358-6743 fax:852-2358-1043 At 7:15 AM -0700 8/14/07, James Knight wrote: >Folks, > >For those of you out there who get backup copies (ftp download, CD; XML/PDF) >of your ebook purchases from the likes of Gale, Ovid, et al., do you have >plans to, or actually make use of this content by loading it into local DBs >or exposing it on a search UI? > >If so, what technology is (or might be) involved? I know that most libraries >nowadays post holdings records for these titles in their OPACs, but beyond >that (and this really is a separate question), what other tools do you use >to expose ebook content on your library's web(s). > >Thanks. > >-JamesK > >-- full disclosure: I work as a field engr for one of these companies, and >am, amidst much conjecture by marketing and product managers, trying to get >my head around just how exactly our constituency might use an electronic >copy of a reference book, besides protecting the finish of ones desk from >coffee stains ;o) >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed Aug 15 07:36:39 2007 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed Aug 15 07:36:44 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] loading ebooks locally / archive? In-Reply-To: <7e5557150708140715r247ff732j75e3fff962793311@mail.gmail.com> References: <7e5557150708140715r247ff732j75e3fff962793311@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46C2E547.9090008@ohiolink.edu> OhioLINK is locally loading e-books from several publishers using the California Digital Library's XTF platform. We've been quite pleased with it for books that are natively XML, a little less so for books that consist of PDF files. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu On 8/14/2007 10:15 AM, James Knight wrote: > Folks, > > For those of you out there who get backup copies (ftp download, CD; XML/PDF) > of your ebook purchases from the likes of Gale, Ovid, et al., do you have > plans to, or actually make use of this content by loading it into local DBs > or exposing it on a search UI? > > If so, what technology is (or might be) involved? I know that most libraries > nowadays post holdings records for these titles in their OPACs, but beyond > that (and this really is a separate question), what other tools do you use > to expose ebook content on your library's web(s). > From Angela.Timmerman at springer.com Wed Aug 15 08:49:23 2007 From: Angela.Timmerman at springer.com (Timmerman, Angela, Springer SBM NL) Date: Wed Aug 15 08:49:29 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Springer Journal Price List 2008 Message-ID: As of today the Springer 2008 Subscription Prices are available on www.springer.com/pricelist. Please note that many subscriptions are now negotiated through academic consortia and/or corporate site licenses. If your institution or library is part of an academic consortia or corporate site license you will receive a customized holdings list with preferential pricing soon, via your licensing manager. If you question whether or not your institution is in a consortia and/or site license or would like to take advantage of a consortia and/or site license contact Springer: www.springer.com/salescontacts. eBook Pricing In addition to the Journal subscription prices, 2008 eBook prices are also available. Springer introduced the eBook program in 2006 and we are looking back on a very successful first year. For a customized eBook offer you can contact your licensing manager www.springer.com/salescontacts. Excellent Journals Transferring to Springer in 2008 Springer is the publisher of choice for academic and professional societies. So far 41 journals are confirmed moving to Springer for 2008. These include: Clinical Orthopaedics and Related Research (CORR), Journal of Mechanical Science and Technology, Mathematica Slovaca, Journal of Applied Mathematics and Computing, Estuaries and Coasts, Journal of Geometrical Analysis and many others. Please visit www.springer.com/forgetmenot for an overview of all transfer titles. Additional new titles will be posted here immediately as well and you can also keep an eye out for our serials updates. New Journals We believe in making long term investments to support new research areas with new journals. Our editors work together closely with the scientific community to analyze research movements and set up new journals where needed. In 2008, we are launching 31 journals; you can find them marked New start 2008 in the price list. On behalf of everyone at Springer, thank you for the time you have dedicated to help us continuously improve our efforts. Should you have questions or concerns, feel free to contact me or any of the licensing managers. Sincerely, Peter Hendriks President Global Sales and Marketing libraryrelations@springer.com From bgsloan2 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 15 09:43:44 2007 From: bgsloan2 at yahoo.com (B.G. Sloan) Date: Wed Aug 15 09:43:47 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Scan this Book - LJ interview with Brewster Kahle of the Open Content Alliance Message-ID: <786362.21984.qm@web57102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Albanese, Andrew R. Scan This Book! In the race to digitize the public domain, is the future of the library at stake? An interview with the Open Content Alliance's Brewster Kahle. Library Journal, August 15, 2007. http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6466634.html Bernie Sloan --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! From johnston at virginia.edu Wed Aug 15 09:47:28 2007 From: johnston at virginia.edu (Leslie Johnston) Date: Wed Aug 15 09:48:12 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Fwd: [Fedora-commons-users] FEDORA COMMONS AWARDED $4.9M Message-ID: <20070815134802.6D1A011B0CB@fork4.mail.virginia.edu> >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:14:21 -0400 >To: fedora-commons-users@lists.sourceforge.net, > fedora-commons-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >From: Carol Minton Morris >Subject: [Fedora-commons-users] FEDORA COMMONS AWARDED $4.9M > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >CONTACT: >Fedora Commons: Sandy Payette >(607) 255-9222, payette@cs.cornell.edu >http://www.fedora-commons.org >Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation: Greg Nelson >(415) 561-7427, greg.nelson@moore.org > >FEDORA COMMONS AWARDED $4.9M GRANT TO DEVELOP OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE >FOR BUILDING COLLABORATIVE INFORMATION COMMUNITIES >(Ithaca, New York, August 10, 2007) - Fedora Commons today announced >the award of a four year, $4.9M grant from the Gordon and Betty >Moore Foundation to develop the organizational and technical >frameworks necessary to effect revolutionary change in how >scientists, scholars, museums, libraries, and educators collaborate >to produce, share, and preserve their digital intellectual >creations. Fedora Commons is a new non-profit organization that >will continue the mission of the Fedora Project, the successful >open-source software collaboration between Cornell University and >the University of Virginia. The Fedora Project evolved from the >Flexible Extensible Digital Object Repository Architecture (Fedora) >developed by researchers at Cornell Computing and Information Science. > >With this funding, Fedora Commons will foster an open community to >support the development and deployment of open source software, >which facilitates open collaboration and open access to scholarly, >scientific, cultural, and educational materials in digital >form. The software platform developed by Fedora Commons with Gordon >and Betty Moore Foundation funding will support a networked model of >intellectual activity, whereby scientists, scholars, teachers, and >students will use the Internet to collaboratively create new ideas, >and build on, annotate, and refine the ideas of their colleagues >worldwide. With its roots in the Fedora open-source repository >system, developed since 2001 with support from the Andrew W. Mellon >Foundation, the new software will continue to focus on the integrity >and longevity of the intellectual products that underlie this new >form of knowledge work. The result will be an open source software >platform that both enables collaborative models of information >creation and sharing, and provides sustainable repositories to >secure the digital materials that constitute our intellectual, >scientific, and cultural history. > >Recognizing the importance of multiple participants in the >development of new technologies to support this vision, the Moore >Foundation funding will also support the growth and diversification >of the Fedora Community, a global set of partners who will cooperate >in software development, application deployment, and community >outreach for Fedora Commons. This network of partners will be >instrumental for making Fedora Commons a self-sustainable non-profit >organization that will support and incubate open-source software >projects that focus on new mechanisms for information formation, >access, collaboration, and preservation. > >According to Sandy Payette, Executive Director of Fedora Commons, >"the new Fedora Commons can foster technologies and partnerships >that make it possible for academic and scientific communities to >publish, share, and archive the results of their own work in a free, >open fashion, and make it possible to analyze and use content in novel ways." > >"Establishing a sustainable open-source software system that >provides the basic infrastructure for on-line communities of >scholars will have enduring impact. The unanticipated >cross-disciplinary uses of this open platform are the hallmark of >this revolutionary infrastructure," said Jim Omura, technology >strategist with the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation. >Payette also noted, "The open-source software that is developed and >distributed by Fedora Commons can impact the entire lifecycle of >what is often referred to as "e-Research" and "e-Science," including >storage of experimental data, analysis of experimental results, peer >review, publication of findings, and the reuse of published material >for the next generation of scholarly works. We will also continue >our work with libraries and museums to facilitate the sharing of >digitized collections, making previously locked away material >available to wide audiences. Also, building on our attention to >digital preservation in the Fedora open-source repository system, >Fedora Commons will continue to stress the importance of the >sustainability of digital information in applications of our work." > >About Fedora Commons >Fedora Commons is a non-profit >organization whose purpose is to provide sustainable open-source >technologies to help individuals and organizations create, manage, >publish, share, and preserve digital content upon which we form our >intellectual, scientific, and cultural heritage. Since 2001, with >support from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, Cornell University and >the University of Virginia have collaborated on the Fedora Project >which has developed, distributed, and supported innovative >open-source repository software that combines content management, >web services, and semantic technologies. The Fedora software has >been adopted worldwide to support an array of applications including >open-access publishing, scholarly communication, digital libraries, >e-science, archives, and education. > >Fedora Commons will initially be located in the Information Science >Building at Cornell University, Ithaca, New York. The Executive >Director of Fedora Commons is Sandy Payette, who co-invented the >Fedora architecture and led the Cornell arm of the open-source >Fedora Project. The Board of Directors of Fedora Commons provides >leadership from multiple communities, including open-access >publishing, digital libraries, sciences, and humanities. For more >information, visit http://www.fedora-commons.org. > >About the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation >The Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation, established in 2000, seeks to >advance environmental conservation and cutting-edge scientific >research around the world and improve the quality of life in the San >Francisco Bay Area. The Foundation's Science Program seeks to make >a significant impact on the development of provocative, >transformative scientific research, and increase knowledge in >emerging fields. For more information, visit http://www.moore.org. > > >-- >Carol Minton Morris >Communications Director >National Science Digital Library (NSDL) >http://NSDL.org > >Communications and Media Director >Fedora Commons >http://www.fedora-commons.org > >Cornell Information Science >301 College Ave. >Ithaca, NY 14850 >607 255-2702 >clt6@cornell.edu >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Fedora-commons-users mailing list >Fedora-commons-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fedora-commons-users From dreww at tc3.edu Wed Aug 15 11:28:01 2007 From: dreww at tc3.edu (Bill Drew) Date: Wed Aug 15 11:25:24 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Fwd: [Fedora-commons-users] FEDORA COMMONS AWARDED $4.9M Message-ID: This is great news for the open source community! What is interesting is that this sounds very similar to the large international Ubuntu community efforts. Congratulations to Cornell University and University of Virginia. Wilfred (Bill) Drew Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins-Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ 170 North St. P.O. Box 139 Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dreww@tc3.edu bill.drew@gmail.com Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 My Wiki: http://billdrew.pbwiki.com My Blog:http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com Al Gore quoting an African proverb: "If you want to go quickly, go alone. But if you want to go far, go together." >>> Leslie Johnston 8/15/2007 9:47 AM >>> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >CONTACT: >Fedora Commons: Sandy Payette >(607) 255-9222, payette@cs.cornell.edu >http://www.fedora-commons.org >Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation: Greg Nelson >(415) 561-7427, greg.nelson@moore.org > >FEDORA COMMONS AWARDED $4.9M GRANT TO DEVELOP OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE >FOR BUILDING COLLABORATIVE INFORMATION COMMUNITIES From jsutherl at qualcomm.com Wed Aug 15 19:21:43 2007 From: jsutherl at qualcomm.com (Sutherland, Jennifer) Date: Wed Aug 15 19:21:48 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Announcement -Technology Integration Librarian - QUALCOMM (San Diego, CA) Message-ID: QUALCOMM Incorporated (Nasdaq: QCOM), is a leading developer and innovator of Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) and other advanced wireless technologies. QUALCOMM has been named to FORTUNE's list of "100 Best Companies to Work For in America" for nine years in a row. Position Announcement: Technology Integration Librarian QUALCOMM, Inc. San Diego, CA Description: Successful candidate will be responsible for identifying and integrating information tools for planning, product development, and marketing support of the corporate direction. The individual's main responsibility is to provide technical expertise in delivering information to a global internal client base. Candidate will develop and maintain databases and applications, integrate current and future systems and maintain and trouble shoot technical aspects of critical library information tools. Experience: * Experience with electronic resource management systems or digital library implementations * Collection, analysis and presentation of library metrics; quality control of online cataloging; streamlining library systems and procedures * Anticipating and optimizing the use of new/emerging information technologies, including electronic access and desktop delivery to meet company strategic objectives. * Experience with access methods such as IP authentication, proxy servers, Shibboleth (Internet 2), and IP library address management and password management. * Experience with link resolver tools and methods * Experience and understanding of the licensing and purchasing of informational content and tools For more information please view the full Technology Integration Librarian job description . All resumes and cover letters should be submitted electronically via the QUALCOMM Careers website (http://www.qualcomm.com/careers Jenn Sutherland Librarian, Sr. QUALCOMM Library & Information Services 858-651-5418 (direct) 858-651-1942 (fax) jsutherl@qualcomm.com From nsmith at email.unc.edu Thu Aug 16 08:25:14 2007 From: nsmith at email.unc.edu (Natasha Smith) Date: Thu Aug 16 08:25:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Announcement: Project Manager, Digital Library, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill References: <786362.21984.qm@web57102.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <020b01c7e000$818de390$6401a8c0@lib.unc.edu> Hello: We have just started reviewing applications for this position, so please apply if you are interested. Best wishes, Natasha Smith Head, Digital Publishing/Documenting the American South ______________________________________ This position description is available online: http://www.lib.unc.edu/jobs/epa/nc_maps.html Position: North Carolina Maps Project Librarian (**Fixed Term Appointment**) Available: July 1, 2007 The University of North Carolina seeks a knowledgeable and resourceful librarian for the position of North Carolina Maps Project Librarian. The Project Librarian will serve as project manager for "North Carolina Maps," a three-year digitization project funded by the Library Services and Technology Act through North Carolina ECHO (Exploring Cultural Heritage Online). The Library, in collaboration with the North Carolina State Archives and the Outer Banks History Center, plans to digitize and publish online a comprehensive selection of early North Carolina Maps. This new digital collection will become part of an ever-growing library digital publishing program that includes the internationally renowned Documenting the American South (http://docsouth.unc.edu) and is part of the newly-established Carolina Digital Library. The Project Librarian will work with staff from the North Carolina Collection at UNC-Chapel Hill and the two partner repositories, who will provide support for archival and digitization activities. The PL will be part of the Carolina Digital Library's Digital Publishing Group. The project team will include several graduate student research assistants dedicated to the project. The Project Librarian will oversee the project through all stages of implementation to its completion, coordinating efforts among participating departments and repositories, managing the daily operation of the project and its budget, and maintaining efficient workflow. The Project Librarian will train and supervise several graduate student research assistants who will prepare selected documents for digitization, scan page images, and assign technical and administrative metadata. Preparation of the selected documents for digitization includes matching maps with existing catalog records, investigating and resolving bibliographic irregularities, and identifying conservation work that needs to be done before items are digitized. The Project Librarian will be responsible for the production of descriptive item-level metadata for digital objects to promote searchability and discovery via locations, names, dates, and subjects. The Project Librarian will also be responsible for the quality of digital conversion and conformity with national standards and best practices and oversee the online publication of materials. The Project Librarian and the CDL staff will develop the website architecture and design and conduct usability studies to assess the site interface and functionality. The Project Librarian will work with North Carolina Collection staff to develop a North Carolina map cataloging manual, which will serve as a guide for identifying and describing state maps for use by cultural heritage professionals around the state. The Project Librarian will also work with the Digital Library staff on the content synthesis and is responsible for the ongoing refinement of the Web presentation. The Project Librarian will work closely with other Library departments and University departments as needed for the successful and timely completion of the project. *Qualifications* *Required*: Graduate degree from an ALA-accredited program; demonstrated knowledge of archival and digital library technologies, standards, and best practices for metadata and information exchange; working knowledge of relational databases; enthusiasm for maps and other cartographic materials. Strong oral and written communication, interpersonal, and organizational skills; ability to work with faculty, staff, and students in a culturally diverse environment; commitment to service and to professional growth and development. *Preferred*: Practical experience with creating and managing digital library projects; working knowledge of HTML, MySQL, XML, and GIS; experience with cataloging maps and/or other cartographic materials. *The University and The Libraries* The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is the country's oldest state university. UNC-Chapel Hill has an enrollment of approximately 27,000 students, employs more than 3,100 faculty, offers 77 doctoral degrees as well as professional degrees in dentistry, medicine, pharmacy and law, and the Library collections include over 5.7 million volumes. The Library is a member of the Association of Research Libraries, the Center for Research Libraries, the Triangle Research Libraries Network (TRLN) and SOLINET . The TRLN libraries, including the Health Sciences and Lawlibraries at Chapel Hill plus the libraries at Duke University , North Carolina Central University, and North Carolina State University , have combined collections of over eleven million volumes. *The Region* The Triangle region is one of the most desirable places to live and work in North America and offers its residents a wide array of recreational, cultural, and intellectual activities. The mountains or the seashore are less than half day's drive from Chapel Hill. The University of North Carolina is an equal opportunity employer and is strongly committed to the diversity of our faculty and staff. *Salary and Benefits* This is a *twelve-month fixed-term appointment, with the possibility of a two year renewal*. Salary will be commensurate with qualifications and experience. Standard state benefits of annual leave, sick leave, and State or optional retirement plan. At the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, librarians enjoy the benefit of academic status and are represented on the faculty council. *Deadline for Application* Review of applications will begin on August 4, 2007. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. *To Apply*: Send a letter of application, a resume and the names, addresses and telephone numbers of three professional references to: North Carolina Maps Project Librarian c/o Tiffany Allen, Personnel Librarian The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB #3900, 213 Davis Library Chapel Hill, NC 27514-8890 Email: Tiffany_Allen@unc.edu *An Equal Opportunity Employer* From sdeng at ccclib.org Thu Aug 16 12:18:38 2007 From: sdeng at ccclib.org (sdeng@ccclib.org) Date: Thu Aug 16 12:39:42 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Opening Message-ID: Library Specialist, Contra Costa County Library Library Specialist ? Dougherty Station Library, located in San Ramon, California The Dougherty Station Library is a joint-use public and community college library operated through a partnership between Contra Costa County, the City of San Ramon and Diablo Valley College. The San Ramon campus of Diablo Valley College is located next to the library. The Contra Costa County Library provides library services at the Dougherty Station Library that benefit the students and faculty of the San Ramon campus and to the residents of San Ramon and the surrounding area. The San Ramon Senior Branch Librarian manages the library in partnership with a Joint Use Library Advisory Committee (JULAC), made up of representatives from the City, County and Community College District. The Library Specialist shall report to and receive direction from the San Ramon Senior Branch Librarian, in consultation with the College Dean of Library and Learning Resources and shall be liaison to College faculty and staff. The Library Specialist has primary responsibility for the development of library services to support College students and faculty. Duties associated with this responsibility include, but are not limited to: Collaboration with faculty and staff on matters such as course-related library instruction, curriculum development and assignment review, reference assistance, collection development, and smooth integration of college and general library service Development and maintenance of specialized collections for students and faculty Creation of information search tools and recommended reading lists for students and faculty Delivery of reference assistance and instruction on the use of library resources Delivery of training and presentations on library services and information literacy to students, community groups, staff and faculty, and the general public Attendance at relevant meetings held by the Diablo Valley College Library, the San Ramon Campus, and the Contra Costa County Library Compilation of statistics and preparation of regular reports as required by the Diablo Valley College Library, the San Ramon Campus, and the Contra Costa County Library Library Specialist ? Electronic Resources The Contra Costa County Library seeks a Library Specialist to plan, coordinate, implement and evaluate projects and activities related to electronic and online reference resources in all formats, including the Library catalog, Internet resources, online library database resources, the Library?s Internet and Intranet presence, and local community information. This position reports to the Information Systems Project Manager and serves on the Library?s Web Team. The Contra Costa County Library Web site is the virtual branch of the Library, a depository of CCCL information resources, available to all 24/7. Duties associated with this responsibility include, but are not limited to: Develop online readers? advisory services Oversee the transition of first and second tier library reference to online/virtual services Collaborate with library staff to train library customers in online information seeking Participate in the management and maintenance of the content of library Web pages and the staff Intranet (slight change) Collaborate with library staff in the development of service unit, department, or branch web pages, including content development and management Increase public awareness and use of the library?s electronic resources and services. Evaluate, recommend, and purchase database subscriptions The employment list established from this examination may remain in effect for six months. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS License Required: Valid California Motor Vehicle Operator?s License. Education: Possession of a graduate degree from a school of librarianship accredited by the American Library Association. Experience: Two years of full-time or its equivalent professional library experience. SELECTION PROCESS 1. Application Filing: A completed Contra Costa County employment application and supplemental questionnaire must be received or postmarked by September 14, 2007. Resumes may not be substituted for the official application or supplemental questionnaire and late applications will be disqualified. It is the applicant?s responsibility to allow adequate mail or delivery time. An application packet may be obtained by calling the Human Resources Department at (925) 335-1701, by calling the Contra Costa County Library at (925) 646-6423, or by applying online at http://www.ccclib.org/libraryjobs/. 2. Application Evaluation: Depending on the number of applications received, an Application Evaluation Board may be convened to review the application and supplemental questionnaire submitted by each applicant. Individuals deemed best qualified for the position by the Application Evaluation Board will be invited to participate in a competitive oral interview. 3. Oral Interview/Assessment Center: The examination will consist of an oral examination and assessment center. The Human Resources Department may change the examination process noted above in accordance with the Personnel Management Regulations and accepted selection practices. Stacie Deng Information Systems Programmer/Analyst Contra Costa County Library sdeng@ccclib.org From jessica at coalliance.org Thu Aug 16 15:18:15 2007 From: jessica at coalliance.org (Jessica Branco Colati) Date: Thu Aug 16 15:16:44 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RFP: Alliance Digital Repository User Interface Design and Development (Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries) Message-ID: <005d01c7e03a$323c8320$0702a8c0@JessicaLT> Please excuse any cross postings. The Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries [The Alliance] is seeking proposals for the design, development, and integration of a robust user interface for its Alliance Digital Repository service. The interface will provide a customizable "look and feel" to the ADR's initial discovery and access portal, encompassing the searching, browsing, and viewing actions related to digital content, including jpegs, pdfs, xml documents, and audio and video files. The interface will bring together multiple software platforms (Fedora, Fez, XTF) currently used within the ADR. The interface will need to interact with existing PHP and JAVA programming. Objectives of the user interface design work are to: * Create a granular, customizable interface that ultimately allows for institutional/community branding, adjustable labeling and positioning of components (i.e. search boxes, results lists, etc.) * Provide a centrally managed, but easily distributed design customization environment * Generate templates that are geared not only towards different institutions, but also content types and audiences * Support integration with other services (Uportal, widgets, etc.) * Support interactions with local authentication services (LDAP, etc.) * Build off of the existing interface foundations provided by Fez and XTF You will find a timeline within the RFP. Please address all questions To jessica[at]coalliance.org on or before August 20, 2007. The Alliance will consider proposals from both vendors and independent contractors. To access the RFP document, please go to http://www.coalliance.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=232&Item id=103g Jessica Branco Colati Project Director Alliance Digital Repository Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries 3801 E. Florida Ave., Suite 515 Denver, CO 80210 t: (303) 759-3399 x113 f: (303) 759-3363 e: jessica@coalliance.org w: http://www.coalliance.org From gerrymck at iastate.edu Thu Aug 16 15:26:15 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Thu Aug 16 15:26:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] The Facebook Platform: The Next Generation OPAC? / Library ? In-Reply-To: <46C45D7C.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46C45D7C.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46C45E87.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Friends/ A Radical Idea For A Thursday Afternoon [It's Amazing What Comes To Mind In The Middle of The Night [:-)] *** The Facebook Platform: The Next Generation OPAC? / Library ? *** >From A Recent TIME Magazine Interview with Mark Zuckerberg, Founder and CE0 of Facebook [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg ] TIME: Why do you describe Facebook as a "social utility" rather than a "social network?" Zuckerberg: I think there's confusion around what the point of social networks is. A lot of different companies characterized as social networks have different goals - some serve the function of business networking, some are media portals. *** What we're trying to do is just make it really efficient for people to communicate, get information and share information ***. We always try to emphasize the utility component. [ http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1644040,00.html ] What Do You Think ??? Consider The Possibilities ... Thanks! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From infoscience1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 21:11:51 2007 From: infoscience1 at gmail.com (Raumin "Ray" Dehghan) Date: Thu Aug 16 21:11:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Fwd: disappearing picture In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708161811k4cf34e19pfe83532f1177738e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708161811k4cf34e19pfe83532f1177738e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1198792c0708161811v64166e15w4c5a74c21db51366@mail.gmail.com> Colleagues, I am in the process of experimenting with a possible redesign to our website and have some issues. For this email, I will just mention one issue first, although my problems may be related. One issue I'm having is that the photo and any associated material (can be found within a div called "layer 6") front and center in the webpage immediately disappears when the mouse goes over to the left nav. I think it might be related to the javascript file, but I don't understand javascript enough yet. the web url is: http://www.westchicago.lib.il.us/r/stuff/chatt/scratchtakeout.htm the javascript file it calls up is: http://www.westchicago.lib.il.us/r/stuff/chatt/tree3.js the css file is: http://www.westchicago.lib.il.us/r/stuff/chatt/ada.css thanks very much for any help. Sincerely, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois From andrew.hankinson at gmail.com Thu Aug 16 22:10:47 2007 From: andrew.hankinson at gmail.com (Andrew Hankinson) Date: Thu Aug 16 22:10:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Fwd: disappearing picture In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708161811v64166e15w4c5a74c21db51366@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708161811k4cf34e19pfe83532f1177738e@mail.gmail.com> <1198792c0708161811v64166e15w4c5a74c21db51366@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5AE81E4F-E379-4E31-920A-37D395782F7F@gmail.com> Hi Ray, I'm no Javascript expert, but I think I found your problem. Here's your Javascript file: function collapse() { divs=document.getElementsByTagName("div") for (i=5;i<15;i++) { divs[i].style.display="none"; } } function expand(item) { collapse(); obj=document.getElementById(item); obj.style.display="block"; } I can't quite figure out the execution process for this, but it works something like this: - When expand(item) is called in the HTML, it starts looking for something to collapse. - When collapse() is called, it starts its counter at 5 and sets div #5 to display:none, which makes it disappear - in the tag hierarchy of your page, div #5 is, of course, the div holding the picture, so it goes away As for a solution - there are many slick javascript libraries out there (appropriately bug tested, of course) that will do things like this with little effort. My favourite is Script.aculo.us (http:// script.aculo.us) Try this: - download Script.aculo.us - Read the README (it's brief, but gives complete instructions on how to use these libraries) - put the javascript libraries on your server and include them in the head of your webpage. (i.e. ) - on the divs you want to control the show/hide (i.e. the main item for that submenu), put this: -Click to Toggle - and on the div you want to show/hide, put this: -
your content
Note that you need the nested divs in the above step - it won't work without them. For more information, see this page: http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/Effect.toggle Hope that helps! Andrew On 16-Aug-07, at 9:11 PM, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan wrote: > Colleagues, > > I am in the process of experimenting with a possible redesign to our > website and have some issues. For this email, I will just mention > one issue > first, although my problems may be related. > > One issue I'm having is that the photo and any associated > material (can be > found within a div called "layer 6") front and center in the webpage > immediately disappears when the mouse goes over to the left nav. > > I think it might be related to the javascript file, but I don't > understand > javascript enough yet. > > the web url is: > http://www.westchicago.lib.il.us/r/stuff/chatt/scratchtakeout.htm > > > the javascript file it calls up is: > http://www.westchicago.lib.il.us/r/stuff/chatt/tree3.js > > the css file is: http://www.westchicago.lib.il.us/r/stuff/chatt/ > ada.css > > thanks very much for any help. > > Sincerely, > Raumin "Ray" Dehghan > Adult Services Librarian > West Chicago Public Library > West Chicago, Illinois > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ Andrew Hankinson andrew.hankinson@gmail.com From jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie Fri Aug 17 09:51:29 2007 From: jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie (John Fitzgibbon) Date: Fri Aug 17 09:52:40 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] inability of browsers to differentiate DNS lookup failure from network connection failure Message-ID: Hi, Most, if not all, of the popular browsers do not distinguish between a DNS lookup failure and a network connection problem. For example, if you type a non-existent domain name into the address bar of your browser the browser will return a page stating that either the DNS lookup failed or there may be a problem with your network connection. If you disconnect your computer from the network and type a valid domain name in the address bar of the browser you will retrieve the same page. When DNS fails it returns a 'no such domain' message to the client but, clearly this is not being communicated to the browser. I'm sure there is a good reason for this, but, I am just wondering what it is. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards John John Fitzgibbon p: 00 353 91 562471 f: 00 353 91 565039 w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie ******************************************************************* Tá eolas atá príobháideach agus rúnda sa ríomhphost seo agus aon iatán a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine sin amháin a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. Mura seolaí thú, níl tú údaraithe an ríomhphost nó aon iatán a ghabhann leis a léamh, a chóipáil ná a úsáid. Má tá an ríomhphost seo faighte agat trí dhearmad, cuir an seoltóir ar an eolas thrí aischur ríomhphoist agus scrios ansin é le do thoil. This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. ********************************************************************* From erushton at binghamton.edu Fri Aug 17 09:54:51 2007 From: erushton at binghamton.edu (Rushton, Erin) Date: Fri Aug 17 09:55:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Head of Library Technology -Binghamton University Message-ID: Binghamton University State University of New York Head of Library Technology The Binghamton University Libraries are recruiting for a Head of Library Technology who will provide leadership for information technologies and digital initiatives and overall direction, administration and management of computer resources, systems, and networking in the Libraries. The incumbent will supervise the Systems Department; oversee the Libraries' technology infrastructure, web services, and other information access and production technologies; responsible for the Libraries' ILS (Ex Libris ALEPH); work with the Library faculty and staff to research and develop new and innovative technologies and services; recommend policies; plan upgrades; maintain current awareness of digital library technologies; work with University Information Technology Services; and represent the Libraries' information technology interests within the University and in SUNY-wide initiatives. This position reports to the Associate Director of Libraries. Librarians at Binghamton University are members of the faculty and are expected to contribute significantly to the profession as well as to perform their specific duties. Located in the Southern Tier of upstate New York, Binghamton University consistently ranks among the nation's best public universities and is recognized for its strong academic programs, distinguished faculty, and talented students. It is one of four doctoral granting institutions in the State University of New York system. The University enrolls over 14,000 students and is currently in its 57th year. This is a tenure track position with competitive salary commensurate with qualifications and experience plus excellent benefits including TIAA/CREF. Review of applications will begin on Friday, September 14, 2007 and continue until position is filled. Finalists invited for an interview will be asked to demonstrate communication skills and knowledge of trends in library technology through a presentation to library faculty, staff, and other members of the University community. Send letter, resume, and contact information for three professional references to: Cindy Olbrys, Team Leader for Human Resources Binghamton University Libraries P.O. Box 6012 Binghamton, NY 13902-6012 colbrys@binghamton.edu Detailed position description available at http://library.lib.binghamton.edu/webdocs/headlibtech.html Binghamton University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. From pshapiro at his.com Fri Aug 17 12:55:26 2007 From: pshapiro at his.com (Phil Shapiro) Date: Fri Aug 17 12:57:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] public libraries involved with citizen journalism Message-ID: <1187369726.46c5d2fe49f01@webmail2.his.com> hi web4lib community, for my PCWorld.com blog i'm interested in writing about any public libraries involved in rich media citizen journalism projects. does your library teach any digital storytelling workshops? workshops on how to put video on youtube? does your library loan out scanners or other equipment to community members? thanks for sending me an email off-list if your library is involved in anything along these lines. phil shapiro, public geek takoma park maryland library -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro@his.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates "Learning happens through gentleness." From gerrymck at iastate.edu Fri Aug 17 13:17:03 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Fri Aug 17 13:19:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] _Academic Ranking of World Universities_ In-Reply-To: <46C5916D.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <20070817T105230Z_19C900000000@dbu.edu> <46C58DFB.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46C5916D.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46C591BE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Colleagues/ An Limited Alternative to the US News & World Report College Rankings? [http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/ranknatudoc_brief.php ] ***Academic Ranking of World Universities - 2007*** The Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) has been published by the Institute of Higher Education, Shanghai Jiao Tong University (IHE-SJTU). [ http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2007/ranking2007.htm ] Includes *** Top 500 World Universities *** Ranking Methodology *** Ranking Statistics *** Comparison *** Frequently Asked Questions *** Contact OPTIONS 1. Top 500 World Universities **Top 100; 102-202; 203-304; 305-401; 402-508 **Download Full List in Microsoft Excel Format **Download Full List in PDF Format (Sort By Rank) **Download Full List in PDF Format (Sort By Institution) 2. Top 100 North & Latin American Universities 3. Top 100 European Universities 4. Top 100 Asia Pacific Universities >>>Other Editions Available 2003-2006<<< DISCLAIMER Although ARWU has ranked research universities in the world by their academic or research performance based on internationally comparable third-party data that everyone could check, there are still many methodological and technical problems. Please read the ranking methodology carefully and use ranking results with cautions. [ http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/disclaimer.htm ] /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From nancy at thesmudge.com Fri Aug 17 14:24:39 2007 From: nancy at thesmudge.com (Nancy E. Sosna Bohm) Date: Fri Aug 17 14:21:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] IE7 has no back button in popups In-Reply-To: <20070817160047.349C4189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20070817160047.349C4189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <001101c7e0fb$dfcf5af0$132944a4@lakeforest.edu> With FireFox and IE7 having tabbed browsing as the default, target="_blank" is no longer a viable option for links that have content that is peripheral to the purpose of an instructional web page and that are off-site. So I employed a small javascript, but discovered that when IE7 is open via a javascript popup command, even if toolbar=yes, there are no back or forward buttons. An example from the commercial sector is the SFX link resolver window when launched from PsycInfo via Ovid. I am as surprised about the lack of discussion of this that I have found online. Am I the only one perturbed by the disappearing back button in IE7? I realize that the use of javascript and target="_blank" are controversial, and perhaps even considered bad practices. But sometimes they make sense. The script-triggered window that opens at a small size is especially useful when the linked page serves as a footnote or illustration for the content of the parent page. Nancy E. Sosna Bohm Associate Reference Librarian Lake Forest College sosna@lakeforest.edu From chutchens at montana.edu Fri Aug 17 15:32:33 2007 From: chutchens at montana.edu (Hutchens, Chad) Date: Fri Aug 17 15:31:11 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web Services Librarian position opening at MSU Bozeman Message-ID: Apologies for cross-posting. Montana State University Libraries seeks a Web Services Librarian to explore, test, implement, and support our Libraries' web-based applications. The Web Services Librarian is responsible for oversight of the Libraries' website as well as the support and development of library web applications. The Web Services Librarian will work closely with all teams within MSU Libraries and will report to the Associate Dean. Required: ALA-accredited MLS, MIS, or equivalent; Working knowledge of HTML/XHTML/CSS and current trends in web design; Demonstrated skill with PHP and MySQL (or equivalent technologies) and relational databases to create dynamic web pages; Broad knowledge of information resources used in academic libraries. Preferred: Experience in an academic library; Knowledge of best practices, standards, issues, and trends relevant to web and information technology in academic libraries; Demonstrated experience with library technology integration using Open Source and Web 2.0 technologies; Basic knowledge of Linux/UNIX; Familiarity or experience with XML/XSL, Perl, CGI, AJAX, and Javascript; Experience conducting usability studies and other user interface design testing; Demonstrated experience with project management and building consensus. The successful candidate will have excellent oral, interpersonal, and written communication skills; exhibit creativity, enthusiasm, flexibility, critical thinking, and initiative; have the desire to work in a team environment; have a strong customer service focus and a commitment to service excellence and be an active tenure-track faculty member capable of meeting the university's promotion and tenure requirements which include research, creative activity, and service to the profession. Available January 1, 2008. $43,000. Screening begins Sept. 26, 2007. For full position description and application requirements, please see http://www.montana.edu/level2/jobs.html and look under "Faculty Positions" for Web Services Librarian or call (406) 994-3119. ADA/EO/AA/Veterans Preference. Chad E. Hutchens Electronic Resources Librarian Montana State University Libraries P.O. Box 173320 Bozeman, MT 59717-3320 (406) 994-4313 phone (406) 994-2851 fax chutchens@montana.edu From tripuran at ulv.edu Fri Aug 17 17:49:22 2007 From: tripuran at ulv.edu (Vinaya Tripuraneni) Date: Fri Aug 17 17:49:25 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Announcement -- Electronic Services Assistant, Univ of La Verne Message-ID: <20070817144922.BKE58676@mira.ulv.edu> Please excuse any cross-posting... Position #2831 - Electronic Services Technician, Wilson Library The University of La Verne has an opening for an Electronic Services Technician in the Wilson Library. The primary function of this position is to provide technical support for the computer hardware, library online system (Innovative Interfaces), library web site, electronic databases, and related computer systems of the University Library for both on and off-campus users. Duties include providing access support (in person, on phone, and via email) for internal and external use of electronic databases; assisting in all aspects of maintaining Library web site; providing technical support for library staff including training on library systems; providing library system help, in-person, phone, and email; supporting and troubleshooting library public terminals, staff machines and peripherals; assisting library staff with any software and hardware issues; liaison with university information technology department and other external vendors; gathering monthly, quarterly and yearly statistics on all online systems usage and providing analysis on usage and trends; assisting in documenting policies and procedures; assisting with any special projects; serving on library teams as necessary; and translating library team decisions into working practice; and additional duties as assigned. The requirements for this position include an Associate?s degree in Computer Science Information Systems, Business or related field, three years of experience which includes two years of information technology and knowledge/professional expertise in library computer systems and related software; extensive experience with Microsoft Office suite; web authoring using HTML, JAVA, CSS, PHP, ASP and/or PERL, experience with troubleshooting and providing support for computer systems, and experience producing statistical reports and data analysis. A Bachelor?s degree in Computer Science, Business Administration or Information Technology is preferred. An equivalent combination of training and experience that demonstrates required knowledge, skills and abilities may be considered. The hiring range for this position is dependent upon qualifications and departmental equity. Benefits of employment include a comprehensive health and welfare plan, tuition remission program for employee, spouse, and dependent children, and a generous 10% contribution to the University?s 403B retirement plan. To apply, please go to http://www.ulv.edu/hr/empc.htm ======================================= Vinaya Tripuraneni Interim University Librarian University of La Verne Library 2040 3rd Street, La Verne, CA 91750 Email: tripuran@ulv.edu Tel: (909) 593-3511 x4307 Fax: (909) 392-2711 http://www.ulv.edu/library ======================================= ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:30:48 -0400 >From: "Adam Brin" >Subject: [Web4lib] Position Announcement -- Web Developer / Application Support Specialist >To: > >-- Apologies for Cross Posting -- > > >Web Developer / Application Support Specialist >---------------------------------------------- >The Tri-College Library Consortium seeks a creative, collaborative, and >forward-thinking individual to develop online services and support digital >initiatives. Reporting to the Tri-Colleges Systems and Applications >Coordinator, the incumbent will be integral in the creation and >implementation of technologies to improve library services. Such >technologies include federated searching, streaming media, digital >repositories, the library catalog, and other projects. The Libraries of Bryn >Mawr, Haverford, and Swarthmore Colleges are located within 10 miles of each >other in the western suburbs of Philadelphia. The position is based at >Swarthmore College, but the incumbent will spend time on each campus for >meetings, project work, and collaboration with library staff. > >Review of resumes to begin August 1st. > > >To apply or for more information: >http://trilogy.swarthmore.edu/tricojob.html >Please include a cover letter, desired salary and a copy of your resume. > >Please send any questions to: tricolib@swarthmore.edu > > >Swarthmore College is a highly selective, liberal arts college situated on a >beautiful suburban Philadelphia campus. The College offers excellent health >benefits, a retirement plan, generous vacation, tuition benefits for you and >your family, an on- site fitness center and many other benefits. > >Swarthmore College has a strong institutional commitment to excellence >through diversity in its educational program and employment. The College >actively seeks and welcomes applications from candidates with diverse >backgrounds including those who have intercultural experience and those with >demonstrable commitments to an inclusive society and world. > > > >Adam Brin >_____________________________________ >Tri-Colleges Systems Coordinator >Bryn Mawr | Haverford | Swarthmore >610.526.5294 > > >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From isidro at cindoc.csic.es Mon Aug 20 05:26:06 2007 From: isidro at cindoc.csic.es (Isidro F. Aguillo) Date: Mon Aug 20 05:28:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] _Academic Ranking of World Universities_ Message-ID: <46C95E2E.605@cindoc.csic.es> Dear colleagues, An alternative to rankings based on bibliometric and other traditional indicators is the Webometrics Ranking that has ben updated last July. ***Webometrics Ranking of World Universities - July 2007*** http://www.webometrics.info/ Includes *** Top 4,000 World Universities *** Top 1,000 Research Institutes *** Regional and country-level lists *** Comparative analyisis *** Bilingual edition (English/Spanish) *** Detailed methodology The Ranking's aim is to show the commitment of the academic organizations to the electronic publication, the open access to scientific results and the internationalization of their activities. As other rankings are more focused on World Class Universities, our purpose is to offer an extended coverage including information about the developing countries' institutions. We intend to motivate both institutions and scholars to have a web presence that reflect accurately their activities. *If the web performance of an institution is below the expected position according to their academic excellence, university authorities should reconsider their web policy, promoting substantial increases of the volume and quality of their electronic publications.* The ranking is based on a combined indicator that takes into account both the volume of the Web contents and the visibility and impact of this web publications according to the number of external inlinks (sitations) they received. Gerry Mckiernan escribi?: > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > Colleagues/ > > An Limited Alternative to the US News & World Report College Rankings? > [http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/ranknatudoc_brief.php > ] > > ***Academic Ranking of World Universities - 2007*** > > The Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) has been published > by the Institute of Higher Education, Shanghai Jiao Tong University > (IHE-SJTU). > [ http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2007/ranking2007.htm ] > > Includes > > *** Top 500 World Universities > *** Ranking Methodology > *** Ranking Statistics > *** Comparison > *** Frequently Asked Questions > *** Contact > > OPTIONS > > 1. Top 500 World Universities > **Top 100; 102-202; 203-304; 305-401; 402-508 > **Download Full List in Microsoft Excel Format > **Download Full List in PDF Format (Sort By Rank) > **Download Full List in PDF Format (Sort By Institution) > > 2. Top 100 North & Latin American Universities > > 3. Top 100 European Universities > > 4. Top 100 Asia Pacific Universities > > >>>> Other Editions Available 2003-2006<<< >>>> > > DISCLAIMER > > Although ARWU has ranked research universities in the world by their > academic or research performance based on internationally comparable > third-party data that everyone could check, there are still many > methodological and technical problems. Please read the ranking > methodology carefully and use ranking results with cautions. > > [ http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/disclaimer.htm ] > > /Gerry > Gerry McKiernan > Associate Professor > Science and Technology Librarian > Iowa State University Library > Ames IA 50011 > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > -- ========================== Isidro F. Aguillo laboratorio de Cibermetria isidro @ cindoc.csic.es CINDOC - CSIC Joaqu?n Costa, 22 28002 Madrid. Spain 34-91-5635482 ext 313 ========================== -- ========================== Isidro F. Aguillo laboratorio de Cibermetria isidro @ cindoc.csic.es CINDOC - CSIC Joaqu?n Costa, 22 28002 Madrid. Spain 34-91-5635482 ext 313 ========================== From georgiawebgurl at yahoo.com Mon Aug 20 08:19:07 2007 From: georgiawebgurl at yahoo.com (robin na) Date: Mon Aug 20 08:19:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Examples of academic libraries using social bookmarking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199181.7514.qm@web90307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All~ I'm working on a brief presentation about social networking in academic libraries. If your library is doing something something inventive or interesting with social bookmarking (or if you are aware of others who are), would you please drop me a line? I'm not looking for individual librarians who are using social bookmarking, but actual libraries or divisions in libraries using it. Thanks. Rather than just have a long list of examples, I thought I'd actually try to pull out the "best of" which is proving a little more challenging. Robin http://robin-news.blogspot.com/ on technology, web 2.0/3.0, design, etc. --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From rolen at yu.edu Mon Aug 20 09:44:17 2007 From: rolen at yu.edu (Heather Rolen) Date: Mon Aug 20 09:43:01 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting: Systems Administrator University Libraries Message-ID: <009b01c7e330$34851220$7cd36281@DJJSP581> SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES Yeshiva University, ranked in the top tier of national research universities, seeks a professional to manage technology and computer services at its library locations in upper and midtown Manhattan. This individual will develop and maintain interfaces to web-enabled database applications (currently implemented in house CMS, Greenstone and more); establish and maintain guidelines for developing new applications in support of our students, library staff, faculty, and alumni; provide backup system administration and trouble-shoot computer issues; supervise, direct and assign staff as required; and perform other related duties as assigned. A Bachelor's degree and working knowledge of Microsoft IIS and network system administration, as well as IP addressing, subnet masks, DNS and default gateways necessary. We offer an attractive benefit package which includes health/dental/life insurance, retirement plan with immediate entry and vesting, 4 weeks vacation and a generous holiday schedule. For immediate consideration, forward your resume and salary history, in confidence, to: Human Resources Manager, Yeshiva University, 500 West 185th Street, New York, NY 10033; Fax: (212) 960-0080; Email: Orlando@yu.edu An EOE. From maxlibris at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 10:55:33 2007 From: maxlibris at gmail.com (Max Anderson) Date: Mon Aug 20 10:55:42 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Learn about XHTML, Resource Sharing, Digitization and RSS! Message-ID: <520a6f0c0708200755m1fb0efb5i989498bec8588ebe@mail.gmail.com> Please excuse any cross-posting. Thought you all might be interested in the following upcoming classes from SOLINET! Title: Coaching for Results (Face-to-Face) Date/Time: 9/17/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm EDT Location: Roanoke Higher Education Authority For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?mode=preview&doc_id=3924&WKSHPID=26CFR Title: Basic MARC Tagging for Books (Live Online) Date/Time: 9/17/2007-9/18/2007, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm EDT, (meets two hours a day for two consecutive days) Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?mode=preview&doc_id=3936&WKSHPID=05BMTBLO Title: Library as Place (Live Online) Date/Time: 9/18/2007, 10:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?mode=preview&doc_id=3928&WKSHPID=26LAP Title: CQ Press: Government: Politics and Policy (Live Online) **FREE!** Date/Time: 9/18/2007, 10:00 am - 11:00 am EDT **FREE!!** Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?mode=preview&doc_id=4599&WKSHPID=26CQDOLO Title: RSS for Libraries (Live Online) Date/Time: 9/18/2007, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?doc_id=4053&WKSHPID=26RSSL Title: XHTML: THE Future of Web Design (Live Online) Date/Time: 9/19/2007 - 9/21/2007, 10:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT (meets two hours a day, for three consecutive days) Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?doc_id=4344&WKSHPID=26XHTMLLO Title: Metadata for Digitization and Preservation (Live Online) Date/Time: 9/20/2007, 10:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?doc_id=3216&WKSHPID=26MDP Title: OCLC WOrldCat Resource Sharing Beyond the Basics (Live Online) Date/Time: 9/20/2007 - 9/21/2007, 10:00 am - 12:00 pm EDT (meets two hours a day for two consecutive days) Location: Live Online For more info: http://www.solinet.net/workshops/ws_details.cfm?doc_id=3809&WKSHPID=05OWRLO Thanks!!! Max --- "Dewey, you fool! Your decimal system has played right into our hands!" --Large floating brain (without hands), Futurama, "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid" From infoscience1 at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 11:35:30 2007 From: infoscience1 at gmail.com (Raumin "Ray" Dehghan) Date: Mon Aug 20 11:35:36 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts Message-ID: <1198792c0708200835s1cf2c4bbja5306ea1cc15ae55@mail.gmail.com> Colleagues, Just wanted to put out a message looking for feedback on what the best free internet sites are for javascript flyout menus. Thanks very much, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois From HYu3 at exchange.calstatela.edu Mon Aug 20 13:54:11 2007 From: HYu3 at exchange.calstatela.edu (Yu, Holly) Date: Mon Aug 20 13:58:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Announcement--CSU Los Angeles In-Reply-To: <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F022C3E22@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> References: <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F022C3E22@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> Message-ID: <249223C7F58DC140A96F27C89DBAF12F02CDF16D@santafe7.academic.ad.calstatela.edu> Associate University Librarian California State University, Los Angeles (CSULA) invites applications and nominations for the position of Associate University Librarian (AUL) with an anticipated starting date of March 2008. The John F. Kennedy Memorial Library is seeking an energetic, visionary, innovative, and creative individual with demonstrated understanding of emerging library technologies who can lead, develop, and motivate in a time of transition and change. The University: The California State University, Los Angeles is one of 23 campuses of the California State University system and is located at the eastern edge of Los Angeles, adjacent to the western San Gabriel Valley, and has more than 21,000 students reflecting the rich ethnic diversity of the area. Reporting to the University Librarian, the position of AUL is a senior administrator and has direct administrative responsibility for overseeing the activities of faculty unit librarians. The AUL coordinates internal operations and takes a lead role in strategic planning and coordinates the action plan process for the Library. He/she oversees the ongoing development of the Library's information literacy program, electronic and print resources, and library digitization initiatives. The AUL becomes acting administrator of the Library in the absence of the University Librarian and performs other related assigned tasks. Minimum qualifications include an ALA-accredited Master's Degree in Library/Information Science (MLS or MLIS); a strong record of scholarly professional achievement; experience as a collaborative team builder, excellent leadership skills and managing staff and services in an academic library; and a strong capability for strategic thinking including big picture perspectives. Demonstrated ability and/or interest in working in a multiethnic-multicultural environment; and strong commitment to excellence in the development of library collections and services. Additional qualifications for this position may be viewed from Human Resources Management's web site (Administrative/Management): http://www.calstatela.edu/univ/hrm/openings.htm Appointment and Compensation: The Administrator III appointment will be made under the guidelines for management and supervisory employees of The California State University. All rights and benefits associated with this appointment are governed by the Management Personnel Plan (MPP) . Salary is commensurate with experience and qualifications. A comprehensive benefit program is provided. Closing: Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. For full consideration, applicants are requested to submit the following materials by December 1, 2007: 1) letter of interest, 2) a current curriculum vitae, 3) three letters of recommendation, 4) an official transcript from the institution awarding your highest degree, and 5) a completed Cal State L.A. employment application (download from: http://www.calstatela.edu/univ/hrm/forms/appl_emp.xls). Please send documents to the attention of: Alice Kawakami, University Librarian John F. Kennedy Memorial Library, LN B537A California State University, Los Angeles 5151 State University Drive Los Angeles, CA 90032-8300 You may also apply to: jobopenings@cslanet.calstatela.edu OR mail to Human Resources Management, California State University, Los Angeles 5151 State University Drive, Los Angeles, CA 90032-8534 For further information, call (323) 343-3953 or visit the Library's Web site at the following URL: http://www.calstatela.edu/library. AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY / TITLE IX EMPLOYER Holly ________________________ Holly Yu Library Web Administrator / Reference Librarian University Library California State University, Los Angeles 5151 State University Dr. Los Angeles, CA 90032 Tel: (323) 343-4993 Fax: (323) 343-5600 Email: hyu3@calstatela.edu From chodgson at niso.org Mon Aug 20 15:21:04 2007 From: chodgson at niso.org (chodgson@niso.org) Date: Mon Aug 20 15:21:09 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] NISO E-Resource Management Forum to be Held September 24-25: Registration Now Open Message-ID: <10788.69.3.248.103.1187637664.squirrel@airweb.airband.net> Highlighting the issues of implementers, NISO is hosting with the Bibliographic Center for Research (BCR) a two-day forum on electronic resource management. Presentations designed to answer pressing questions about the impact of ERMs on internal management and workflow will come from all major sectors of the NISO community. NISO?s E-Resource Management Forum: The What, Why, and How for Managing E-Resources will take place September 24-25, 2007 at The Magnolia Hotel in Denver, Colorado. Early bird registration is now open. The how-to character of the Forum will provide practical guidance both to librarians currently implementing electronic resources management systems and those weighing ERM options. Subscription agents, ILS vendors, and publishers will also have a rare opportunity to integrate their perspectives and questions into sessions that examine ERM selection and operation. Beginning with discussions of the benefits and uses of ERMs, as well as selection criteria, the sessions move to project-specific implementation, including workflow/staffing, usage, reports, and case studies. Topics include: ? The role of ERM systems in helping users to locate and access materials ? How to choose an ERM and what information to include in your system ? Interoperability with ILS acquisition systems ? Different aspects of ERM use, including additional tools to plug into ERMs ? Formats for the exchange of serials subscription information ? Approaches to licensing in an ERM environment ? Data gathering techniques, including feeds and SUSHI ? Workflow from a management perspective ? Case studies: how ERMs can help maximize the user experience and how they improve work from the back-end Among the scheduled speakers are: Jill Grogg, Electronic Resources Librarian and Associate Professor, The University of Alabama Libraries; Norm Medeiros, Associate Librarian of the College & Coordinator for Bibliographic and Digital Services, Haverford College; Susan Davis, Head, Electronic Periodicals Management Department, University at Buffalo (SUNY); Angela Riggio, Head, Digital Collections Management, UCLA Library; Oliver Pesch, Chief Strategist, E-Resources, EBSCO Information Services; Helen Clarke, Head, Collections Services, University of Calgary Library; George Machovec, Associate Director, Gold Rush Product Manager, Colorado Alliance of Research Libraries; and Sandy Hurd, Director of Strategic Markets, Innovative Interfaces, Inc. Registration is now open. (http://www.niso.org/news/events_workshops/erm07/index.html#registration) The early bird discount closes September 7th. NISO and BCR members are eligible for substantial discounts. Visit the event webpage (www.niso.org/news/events_workshops/erm07) for details, or contact Karen Wetzel, NISO Standards Program Manager, at kwetzel@niso.org, for more information. The NISO ERM forum is cosponsored BCR. Major sponsors of the forum are EBSCO Information Services and Ex Libris, Inc. Additional sponsorship is provided by Innovative Interfaces, Swets Information Service, CrossRef, Serials Solutions, and Thomson. Cynthia Hodgson National Information Standards Organization Email: chodgson@niso.org Phone: 301-654-2512 From gwiseman at ci.waco.tx.us Mon Aug 20 16:29:53 2007 From: gwiseman at ci.waco.tx.us (Gillian Wiseman) Date: Mon Aug 20 16:29:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site Message-ID: I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo mail for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for example, finding a username that isn't already in use is a really time-consuming process - and wading through all the "new features" pages and the "set up your own webpage" pages, etc... can be confusing to new users. I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy to have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough similarity to yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can transfer what they learn when they later want to use other tools. Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that would be my first choice. If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the list. Gillian Wiseman Electronic Resources Librarian Waco-McLennan County Library (254)750-5944 gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us From AAbramson at ci.berkeley.ca.us Mon Aug 20 16:44:33 2007 From: AAbramson at ci.berkeley.ca.us (Abramson, Alicia) Date: Mon Aug 20 16:45:34 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9B0A94A3F3355049BF673A96D81C8F215A0E67@COBEXVS1.berkeley.root> I personally love gmail, and you can now signup without an invitation: http://www.gmail.com I like that it keeps conversations in a single thread instead of all over your mailbox, the labeling and searching capabilities are nice too. The model is different from Yahoo as you don't create folders, just labels. Finally, one of the biggest selling points is that its spam filter works much better than my Yahoo ever did. I stopped using Yahoo because so much spam got through, it was a chore to open the mailbox up. Some does occasionally sneak through in gmail, but my non-scientific guess is that it's about 95% less! Alicia Abramson Manager Library Information Technology Berkeley Public Library aabramson@ci.berkeley.ca.us 510-981-6131 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gillian Wiseman Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:30 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo mail for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for example, finding a username that isn't already in use is a really time-consuming process - and wading through all the "new features" pages and the "set up your own webpage" pages, etc... can be confusing to new users. I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy to have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough similarity to yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can transfer what they learn when they later want to use other tools. Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that would be my first choice. If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the list. Gillian Wiseman Electronic Resources Librarian Waco-McLennan County Library (254)750-5944 gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From WrightJ at library.phila.gov Mon Aug 20 16:51:52 2007 From: WrightJ at library.phila.gov (Wright, Jen) Date: Mon Aug 20 16:52:01 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll state the obvious: Gmail. It doesn't require understanding folders or too many tough concepts. It doesn't require you to have an email address to sign up for an email address. The inbox size is HUGE. The text resizes easily. It is easy to find your spam folder. Best search functions of the web based email programs. I'm sure others will add more. -Jen Jennifer R Wright Electronic/Digital Resources Coordinator Free Library of Philadelphia 215.686.2874 www.library.phila.gov -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gillian Wiseman Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:30 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo mail for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for example, finding a username that isn't already in use is a really time-consuming process - and wading through all the "new features" pages and the "set up your own webpage" pages, etc... can be confusing to new users. I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy to have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough similarity to yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can transfer what they learn when they later want to use other tools. Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that would be my first choice. If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the list. Gillian Wiseman Electronic Resources Librarian Waco-McLennan County Library (254)750-5944 gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From gwiseman at ci.waco.tx.us Mon Aug 20 17:22:27 2007 From: gwiseman at ci.waco.tx.us (Gillian Wiseman) Date: Mon Aug 20 17:22:30 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site In-Reply-To: <46CA034A.1020707@ualberta.ca> Message-ID: Thanks for this really good advice and pointers. Everyone has suggested g-mail so far, so tomorrow morning when I can get on a public computer and try it out, I'll make a quick decision. Gillian -----Original Message----- From: Marc Truitt [mailto:marc.truitt@ualberta.ca] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:11 PM To: Wright, Jen Cc: Gillian Wiseman; web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site Hi, I have a Gmail account (and a Yahoo! account) and agree with the previous postings about its simplicity and features. That said, I think that if you decide to proceed with it as your suggested e-mail solution, you ought to make a point of informing your audience also about Gmail's approach to privacy and targeted content advertising. Users need to understand the consequences of this before they are confronted with sidebar ads that appear to respond (however accurately or inaccurately) to the content of messages they might otherwise believe are personal and private. cheers, - mt ************************************************************************* Marc Truitt Associate Director, Bibliographic and Information Voice : 780-492-4770 Technology Services e-mail : marc.truitt@ualberta.ca University of Alberta Libraries fax : 780-492-9243 Cameron Library cell : 780-217-0356 Edmonton, AB T6G 2J8 "...really, who'd want to live in Santa Fe forever when Waco beckons?" -- Molly Ivins ************************************************************************* > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gillian Wiseman > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:30 PM > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site > > I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo mail > for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for example, finding > a username that isn't already in use is a really time-consuming process > - and wading through all the "new features" pages and the "set up your > own webpage" pages, etc... can be confusing to new users. > > I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy to > have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough similarity to > yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can transfer what they > learn when they later want to use other tools. > > Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are > easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer > terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that > would be my first choice. > > If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the > list. > > Gillian Wiseman > Electronic Resources Librarian > Waco-McLennan County Library > (254)750-5944 > gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From bkozlowski at sals.edu Mon Aug 20 17:21:20 2007 From: bkozlowski at sals.edu (Kozlowski,Brendon) Date: Mon Aug 20 17:24:36 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: javascript flyouts References: <20070820160031.7C8C3189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: >From a usability and standards compliancy perspective, if you're going to use JavaScript, then I'd say the following would be the best: http://www.brothercake.com/dropdown/ Due to the research involved in creating this, this is a retail script, not a freebie (just a heads up). Brendon Kozlowski Web Administrator Saratoga Springs Public Library 49 Henry Street Saratoga Springs, NY, 12866 [518] 584-7860 x217 ________________________________ From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of web4lib-request@webjunction.org Sent: Mon 8/20/2007 12:00 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 17 Message: 5 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:35:30 -0500 From: "Raumin \"Ray\" Dehghan" Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts To: web4lib Message-ID: <1198792c0708200835s1cf2c4bbja5306ea1cc15ae55@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues, Just wanted to put out a message looking for feedback on what the best free internet sites are for javascript flyout menus. Thanks very much, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ End of Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 17 *************************************** From jamieanderson1968 at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 17:25:22 2007 From: jamieanderson1968 at gmail.com (Jamie Anderson) Date: Mon Aug 20 17:27:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have to add to the Gmail chorus. I find their signup process very easy. It gives several suggestions for an email name based on the persons sign up info. I also like that it rates your password 'security' when you enter it. I find that to be an excellent jumping off point in classes to talk about online privacy and things Jamie On 8/20/07, Wright, Jen wrote: > > I'll state the obvious: Gmail. > It doesn't require understanding folders or too many tough concepts. > It doesn't require you to have an email address to sign up for an email > address. > The inbox size is HUGE. > The text resizes easily. > It is easy to find your spam folder. > Best search functions of the web based email programs. > > I'm sure others will add more. > > -Jen > > Jennifer R Wright > Electronic/Digital Resources Coordinator > Free Library of Philadelphia > 215.686.2874 > www.library.phila.gov > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gillian Wiseman > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:30 PM > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site > > I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo mail > for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for example, finding > a username that isn't already in use is a really time-consuming process > - and wading through all the "new features" pages and the "set up your > own webpage" pages, etc... can be confusing to new users. > > I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy to > have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough similarity to > yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can transfer what they > learn when they later want to use other tools. > > Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are > easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer > terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that > would be my first choice. > > If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the > list. > > Gillian Wiseman > Electronic Resources Librarian > Waco-McLennan County Library > (254)750-5944 > gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Jamie Anderson jamieanderson1968@gmail.com From beanworks at gmail.com Mon Aug 20 17:38:04 2007 From: beanworks at gmail.com (Carol Bean) Date: Mon Aug 20 17:38:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gillian, I have been doing this for years, and have tried several. We have been using Safe-mail.net because it is easy to sign up for, and one of the interfaces is very simple and easy to use (unfortunately, no longer the default, which makes setup a little more difficult). My second choice was gmail, but when it required an invitation the signup process was just too messy. Now that they've changed that, I'm going to give it a try once more (there were a few other issues, but they were minor compared to the sign-up hassle). If you are interested, we have the old class materials on e-snips: http://www.esnips.com/doc/a4522d31-c2d5-4796-a614-7512eee9e251/ Class4gmailhandout http://www.esnips.com/doc/bab8f061-d6e5-47a8-b2aa-137d0da561ec/ class5EmailHandoutGM http://www.esnips.com/doc/8007931f-6740-4b57-a309-0c5ef50afc76/ Class5EmailHandoutGMp2 although they probably need modifying by now. Feel free to use them and/or modify them as needed for your purposes. They're all creative commons licenses. Carol Bean beanworks@gmail.com On Aug 20, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Gillian Wiseman wrote: > I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo > mail for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for > example, finding a username that isn't already in use is a really > time-consuming process - and wading through all the "new features" > pages and the "set up your own webpage" pages, etc... can be > confusing to new users. > > I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy > to have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough > similarity to yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can > transfer what they learn when they later want to use other tools. > > Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are > easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer > terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that > would be my first choice. > > If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the > list. > > Gillian Wiseman > Electronic Resources Librarian > Waco-McLennan County Library > (254)750-5944 > gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From pdeanda at libraryassociates.com Mon Aug 20 17:47:16 2007 From: pdeanda at libraryassociates.com (Patty De Anda) Date: Mon Aug 20 17:47:23 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Positions Available: Electronic Resource/Web Librarians (Washington, DC) Message-ID: <2490B2A4A4320D43B3C2AB11B542177CAA82E7@hosted.netfusion.mail> LAC seeks Electronic Resource/Web Librarians to work in a government agency in Washington DC. Candidates must have either an MLS or 10+ years of relevant experience. Must have experience in the field of education. Familiarity with HTML, XML, Unix, and Sirsi strongly preferred. This is in support of a proposal we are currently bidding on. RESPONSIBILITIES: * Maintain and update library web site and portal * Select and recommend databases for inclusion * Manage access * Arrange for/provide training in the use of resources * Develop and apply evaluation methods, analyze results TO APPLY: For immediate consideration, please apply using our online registration at www.libraryassociates.com , or send your resume and cover letter to Jacques Domenge . Please remember to include the job title and number (#763) in your cover letter or email. The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender. From pfa at umich.edu Mon Aug 20 19:06:29 2007 From: pfa at umich.edu (Anderson, Patricia) Date: Mon Aug 20 19:06:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Examples of academic libraries using social bookmarking References: <199181.7514.qm@web90307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is one example of a handout / guide that we converted to an rss feed from del.icio.us. Avian Flu: -- Patricia Anderson, pfa@Umich.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of robin na Sent: Mon 8/20/2007 8:19 AM To: Web4Lib (web4lib@webjunction.org) Subject: [Web4lib] Examples of academic libraries using social bookmarking All~ I'm working on a brief presentation about social networking in academic libraries. If your library is doing something something inventive or interesting with social bookmarking (or if you are aware of others who are), would you please drop me a line? I'm not looking for individual librarians who are using social bookmarking, but actual libraries or divisions in libraries using it. Thanks. Rather than just have a long list of examples, I thought I'd actually try to pull out the "best of" which is proving a little more challenging. Robin http://robin-news.blogspot.com/ on technology, web 2.0/3.0, design, etc. --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From EAH0116 at ecu.edu Mon Aug 20 19:50:01 2007 From: EAH0116 at ecu.edu (Hirst, Edward Alan) Date: Mon Aug 20 19:50:19 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site References: Message-ID: <692A06C6C9175146AC226FBF6E5D8FBDD112F0@ecust3.intra.ecu.edu> I have found inbox.com to be pretty easy to use. They also have 5gb of storage space and user names have been easy to choose. ed Edward Hirst Information Technology Librarian Rowan Public Library http://www.rowanpubliclibrary.org Salisbury, NC -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Gillian Wiseman Sent: Mon 8/20/2007 4:29 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Your preferred web-based e-mail site I teach library patrons how to use e-mail. I've been teaching Yahoo mail for years, but their sign-up process is difficult - for example, finding a username that isn't already in use is a really time-consuming process - and wading through all the "new features" pages and the "set up your own webpage" pages, etc... can be confusing to new users. I'm looking for suggestions for web-based mail that would be easy to have patrons sign up for, are reliable, and have enough similarity to yahoo/outlook/other e-mail programs that people can transfer what they learn when they later want to use other tools. Most of my patrons are seniors or other new computer users who are easily confused by complexity and obscurity as well as computer terminology, so if there's a super simple or super basic site, that would be my first choice. If you want to reply to me privately, I'll report my results to the list. Gillian Wiseman Electronic Resources Librarian Waco-McLennan County Library (254)750-5944 gwiseman@ci.waco.tx.us _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From pdeanda at libraryassociates.com Mon Aug 20 20:21:20 2007 From: pdeanda at libraryassociates.com (Patty De Anda) Date: Mon Aug 20 20:21:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Available: Electronic Content Editor (Biz Dev) Los Angeles, CA Message-ID: <2490B2A4A4320D43B3C2AB11B542177CAA8320@hosted.netfusion.mail> LAC seeks an Electronic Content Editor (Biz Dev) for our client, a prestigious firm in Los Angeles. The Editor will manage editorial goals and ensure that all content is regularly updated and is consistent with editorial and brand standards. Responsibilities: * Manage the daily editorial and administrative maintenance of attorney biographies (print / non-print) and experience credentials for proposals; * Coordinate the editing and writing of content for the Firm's Marketing Center, as well as for the Firm's web site; * Ensure that content is regularly updated and consistent with editorial and brand standards; * Collaborate with proposal and web site stakeholders, content sponsors, attorneys and/or other business development personnel to finalize and approve content for publication; * Distribute proposal content for RFPs; * Updating and maintaining the Firm's editorial and brand style guide; Qualifications: * BA/BS degree required (English, Journalism, or a related field); * 3-5 years of professional information management and/or editorial experience; * 3-5 years of experience in web publishing or editing, and content or proposal management; * Law firm or professional services experience desired; * Proficient using: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook; * Knowledge of Worksite or similar document archiving system (advanced level); * Advanced knowledge of Content Management Systems and concepts; * Advanced knowledge of AP Style, English language, punctuation, spelling and grammar; * Non-programming knowledge of web technologies and functionality; * Online research and internet resources; To Apply Please email resume and cover letter to Keith Gurtzweiler, keith@libraryassociates.com, with a courtesy copy to Patty De Anda, pdeanda@libraryassociates.com. Please include what position you are applying for in your email and cover letter. EOE The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender. From nancy at thesmudge.com Tue Aug 21 00:38:43 2007 From: nancy at thesmudge.com (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Mon Aug 20 23:37:46 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts References: <20070820160034.71F23189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <005d01c7e3ad$281c7730$17cd6c40@nance> I've recently used: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/ and http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/ with a considerable amount of customizing. Nancy E. Sosna Bohm Associate Reference Librarian Lake Forest College Message: 5 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:35:30 -0500 From: "Raumin \"Ray\" Dehghan" Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts To: web4lib Colleagues, Just wanted to put out a message looking for feedback on what the best free internet sites are for javascript flyout menus. Thanks very much, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ End of Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 17 *************************************** From dcs26 at drexel.edu Tue Aug 21 12:39:37 2007 From: dcs26 at drexel.edu (Schwartz,Dorothy) Date: Tue Aug 21 12:40:38 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Opportunity - Drexel University - Head, Information Services - Search Re-opened Message-ID: The Drexel University Libraries seek an experienced and innovative leader to be Head of Information Services. The successful candidate will lead a team (9 FTE) that is responsible for reference and research services, print and electronic collection development, liaison, outreach, and instructional programs for students and faculty in all areas except health sciences and law. The Head of Information Services will provide leadership during a time of rapid and fundamental change in libraries both at Drexel and within higher education. In response to the University's new Strategic Plan and with the direction and support of the department head, the Information Services team will shape the development and implementation of user-centered services that meet the needs and expectations of today's students and faculty. This position reports to the Director of Libraries, is a key member of the libraries' management team, and actively participates in setting library goals and establishing library priorities. For a full position description, connect to http://www.drexeljobs.com and search for job title "Head, Information Services." Located in Philadelphia, a vital and growing city with an historic core, Drexel University enrolls more than 12,000 undergraduates and 7,000 graduate and professional students in its eleven schools and colleges . 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From mhampshire at cityofmillvalley.org Tue Aug 21 18:08:10 2007 From: mhampshire at cityofmillvalley.org (Michele Hampshire) Date: Tue Aug 21 18:08:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708200835s1cf2c4bbja5306ea1cc15ae55@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <995A163908335D4983530B312C6F0C77018DDA54@mail.mv.org> With just a teensy bit of javascript and some wicked cool CSS, Suckerfish deserves a look. http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/ Michele Hampshire Web Librarian Mill Valley Public Library 375 Throckmorton Ave. Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-389-4292 x107 http://millvalleylibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:36 AM To: web4lib Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts Colleagues, Just wanted to put out a message looking for feedback on what the best free internet sites are for javascript flyout menus. Thanks very much, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Adult Services Librarian West Chicago Public Library West Chicago, Illinois _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From saltar at btinternet.com Tue Aug 21 19:11:23 2007 From: saltar at btinternet.com (=?us-ascii?Q?saleem_akhtar?=) Date: Tue Aug 21 19:11:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTIMINATION? Message-ID: Hi collective wisdom Can libraries become source of contamination? Many people borrow books from library and they all have different hygiene levels. For instance they may not wash their hands, after nature's call, and with same dirty hands flip through library books. Some people carelessly/intentionally can leave all sorts of dirt or germs on library books, do we have or can we think of any safeguard against this health hazard to library staff and other patrons, who may borrow the same books later? Can this be reason why medical professionals don't visit libraries often? Further, please read following article written by an ENT specialist on WEB MD, which started me thinking on these lines. http://blogs.webmd.com/all-ears/2006/06/dirty-places-part-3-your-doctors.htm l Please press ctrl and click and not enter key. Or paste the link in your browser's window. The doctor concerned in this article recommends avoiding reading magazines etc. in doctor's waiting room, because of possible contamination and hence advice people to bring their own reading material and toys for children, etc. By this standard the libraries should be extinct? This doctor has counted "dirty dozen", the dozen dirty places to be careful about for possible disease catching places. Most of these places are public, why then, he did not mention libraries? What do you think about this article/matter? Regards Saleem Glasgow, Scotland From atroncale at yahoo.com Tue Aug 21 19:17:14 2007 From: atroncale at yahoo.com (Anthony Troncale) Date: Tue Aug 21 19:17:17 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Digital Library educational programs at METRO Message-ID: <150680.86639.qm@web55107.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I recently organized a series of digital library educational programs for METRO NY. You can register for these programs at the METRO site: www.metro.org If you have an interest in staging similar programs at your institution please contact me at: Anthony Troncale, Digital Library Consulting 140 Seventh Avenue Suite #3C New York, NY 10011 212-463-7947 office, 646-645-7947 cell atroncale@yahoo.com http://home.nyc.rr.com/atron/ATConsulting.html I want to thank all those instructors and presenters for their cooperation in agreeing to the below programs. Wednesday, September 19, 2007 Greenstone 1: Introduction To Greenstone Open Source Digital Library Software (10:00AM - 1:00PM) Presented by Ian Witten, professor of Computer Science at the University of Waikato in New Zealand. This workshop is designed for those who want an introduction to building a digital library using an open source software program. The Greenstone Librarian Interface is designed for end users who may not have any programming expertise. It allows users to gather sets of documents, import or assign metadata, build them into a Greenstone collection, and display it on their web site. Collections can include text (including PDFs), pictures, audio and video. Prerequisites: Attendees should be familiar with HTML and the Web, and be aware of representation standards such as Unicode and Dublin Core. Registration fees: $75 members; $100 non-members Thursday, September 20, 2007 Greenstone 2: Advanced Course On The Greenstone Open Source Digital Library Software (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Ian Witten, professor of Computer Science at the University of Waikato in New Zealand. This advanced workshop is designed for those who already have digital collections and metadata ready for import and wish to move towards implementing a full open source digital library program. In this workshop participants will install the software and perform activities demonstrated in the introductory course. Then they will work through a series of practical exercises that involve designing, building, and customizing collections. The workshop will end with a brief discussion of the upcoming Greenstone3 product. Prerequisites: Participants are assumed to be broadly familiar with the basic functionality of the Greenstone system as described in the introductory course. Equipment: Windows laptops will be provided. Participants may bring their own if they wish; the Greenstone software will be installed as part of the lab. Participants who prefer to use a Mac or Unix laptop will have to pre-install Greenstone before coming to the lab. Registration fees: $200 members; $250 non-members Thursday, October 04, 2007 Advanced Digital Capture Systems And Imaging Techniques, Part I (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Peter Siegel, Director of the Cultural Heritage Division of Digital Transitions, Inc. This advanced workshop is designed for those who are familiar with, but want to learn more about, current digital capture technologies and techniques for making high-quality, high-resolution digital images. Digital library administrators, digital librarians, photographers, and department heads of imaging labs for museums and cultural institutions will find this workshop useful. Topics covered include optical systems (cameras) and optics, lighting types and techniques, digital color management (including policies and best practices), quality control measures, and the interpretation of targets. The final portion of the session will cover how to prepare an image for high-quality publication, including proofing, screen matching and press matching. Registration fees for Parts I and II: $200 members; $250 non-members Friday, October 05, 2007 Advanced Digital Capture Systems And Imaging Techniques, Part II (10:00AM - 12:30PM) Site Visit to Digital Transitions, Inc. Part II of the course is an on-site visit to the offices of Digital Transitions, Inc. at 35 West 35th Street, 2nd floor, New York, NY 10001. On the visit participants will get to see demonstrations of a large array of state-of-the-art digital capture equipment and lighting systems. Registration fees for Parts I and II: $200 members; $250 non-members Tuesday, October 09, 2007 Understanding And Implementing EAD (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Tom Frusciano, University Archivist for Rutgers University. This workshop is designed for those who want to learn the basics of how to develop electronic finding aids for archival collections. Participants will get an introduction to the history and development of Encoded Archival Description (EAD) and will have the opportunity to create a finding aid using authoring tools and software. The course will touch upon the development of the EAD DTD, SGML/XLM vs. HTML, EAD structure and encoding issues, EAD-XML to HTML using XSLT and search and retrieval methods. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Tuesday, October 16, 2007 Community Forum: Introduction To OpenCollection (1:00PM - 4:00PM) Presented by Seth Kaufman, founder of Whirl-i-Gig, and Megan Forbes, Manager of Collection Information and Access at the Museum of the Moving Image in New York. This presentation is for those who are interested in collections management systems that are open sourced, thus freely available for download and implementation. OpenCollection is the product of collaboration between the Museum of the Moving Image and Whirl-I-Gig to produce a full-featured collections management and access application for museums, photo and moving-image archives and digital collections. It is designed to handle large, heterogeneous collections that have complex cataloguing requirements and require support for a range of metadata and media formats. Unlike other collections management applications, Open Collection is a true web-application. All cataloging, search and administrative functions are accessible via the Internet using common web-browser software, making cataloguing by distributed teams and online access to collections information simple, efficient and inexpensive. Support for the development of Open Collection has been provided by the Institute of Museum and Library Services and the New York State Council on the Arts. Registration fees: $10 member & nonmembers Friday, November 09, 2007 Digital Imaging For Libraries: Capture, Analysis And Quality Control (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Ray Murray, the Digital Conversion Specialist at the Library of Congress. Participants will be provided with an overview of how to determine what digital capture and conversion requirements are necessary and then be shown how to best describe proper capture specifications in a Request for Proposals or to instruct in-house scanning technicians on how to proceed. Participants will have a walk through on how to analyze and review digital images produced by vendors or by in-house staff using specific examples. The use of targets for determining tonal distribution, color accuracy, resolution and noise levels will be discussed. Other areas covered will be creating and managing administrative metadata, proper documentation of the conversion process, and establishment of a quality control workflow. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Wednesday, November 14, 2007Basic Color Management In Practice: Calibration, Configuration And Control (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Michael Bevans, partner and digital image software developer for Tribeca Imaging Labs, Inc., New York. The emphasis in this course will be on basic color management of computer and imaging equipment. The principles of color and color space in a digital environment will be discussed. Software used for calibrating and creating profiles for monitors and scanners will be demonstrated. Scanning targets for capture accuracy and evaluation will be displayed and discussed. Putting color management to practice will follow, including imbedding color profiles, white point and color temperature settings. Ambient light levels and other environmental workspace factors related to ISO 3664:2000 will be detailed so that participants may judge and color accuracy of image files by matching them with the original materials. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Friday, December 07, 2007 Teaching And Learning With Digital Images (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Elisa Lanzi, Director of the Imaging Center at Smith College. This workshop offers an opportunity for participants to examine issues and practices surrounding digital image use in teaching and learning. Focus will be on the pedagogical application of images in humanities teaching at colleges and universities. Issues related to image services for patrons, collaboration among disciplines and administrative units, and copyright will also be discussed. The workshop will include real-life examples, presentations, exercises, and moderated group discussions. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Anthony Troncale, Digital Library Consulting 140 Seventh Avenue Suite #3C New York, NY 10011 212-463-7947 office, 646-645-7947 cell atroncale@yahoo.com http://home.nyc.rr.com/atron/ATConsulting.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From waltcrawford at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 10:14:23 2007 From: waltcrawford at gmail.com (Walt Crawford) Date: Wed Aug 22 10:14:30 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Cites & Insights 7:10 available In-Reply-To: <1E41AE9AC12EA549BE5BC51A08DD8DC1212B4E@OAEXCH5SERVER.oa.oclc.org> References: <1E41AE9AC12EA549BE5BC51A08DD8DC1212B4E@OAEXCH5SERVER.oa.oclc.org> Message-ID: <1dc292630708220714r63dbe4fbu655d537a0ad8f39@mail.gmail.com> Cites & Insights 7:10, September 2007, is now available for downloading at http://citesandinsights.info/civ7i10.pdf The 26-page issue, PDF as usual with most essays also available in HTML form from http://citesandinsights.info/, includes: * Bibs & Blather - A new book is on its way, Public Library Blogs: 252 examples. * Making it Work - Successes and failures in changing libraries * Following Up and Feedback - Extending the conversation for eight or nine previous essays, including substantial new sections adding to "On the Literature" and "On Authority, Worth and Linkbaiting." * Net Media: Wikipedia and Other Wiki Notes * Trends & Quick Takes - Four trends (including notes on Second Life) and seven quicker takes * Interesting & Peculiar Products - Two products and seven editors' choice/roundup notes. * My Back Pages - six mini-rants. From hogue_m at lib.chattanooga.gov Wed Aug 22 12:05:49 2007 From: hogue_m at lib.chattanooga.gov (Hogue Melanie) Date: Wed Aug 22 12:15:00 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In my library, we do wipe off the books after each circulation. That doesn't clean the pages, though. Yes, libraries are a source of germs. Having said that, so are schools, post offices, supermarkets, WalMart, airplanes and buses and their terminals, and virtually EVERY public place that exists in the world. No one would suggest that we all live our entire lives in our homes for fear of touching something dirty. And, it certainly isn't a reason for the extinction of libraries! Having said THAT; it can't hurt to wash ones hands frequently. :) But, there are some who argue that trying too hard to live in a germ free environment makes people more likely rather than less likely to get sick because a person's body has no opportunity to develop immunity by gradual exposure. An example of this is the school/daycare experience. A child's first year in daycare or school is usually full of minor illnesses; then it slows or stops because the child has developed immunities to the common "germs". Here is an article that covers this topic relating to children and allergies- http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/00-01winter/germs.html . I have read loads of material over the years presenting this view point with regard to living in general. Does anyone have better access to journal articles about this? Melanie Amy Hogue, Librarian I Business, Science & Technology Chattanooga-Hamilton County Bicentennial Library The Smartest Card. Get it. Use it. @ the Chattanooga-Hamilton County Bicentennial Library -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of saleem akhtar Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:11 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTIMINATION? Importance: High Hi collective wisdom Can libraries become source of contamination? Many people borrow books from library and they all have different hygiene levels. For instance they may not wash their hands, after nature's call, and with same dirty hands flip through library books. Some people carelessly/intentionally can leave all sorts of dirt or germs on library books, do we have or can we think of any safeguard against this health hazard to library staff and other patrons, who may borrow the same books later? Can this be reason why medical professionals don't visit libraries often? Further, please read following article written by an ENT specialist on WEB MD, which started me thinking on these lines. http://blogs.webmd.com/all-ears/2006/06/dirty-places-part-3-your-doctors .htm l Please press ctrl and click and not enter key. Or paste the link in your browser's window. The doctor concerned in this article recommends avoiding reading magazines etc. in doctor's waiting room, because of possible contamination and hence advice people to bring their own reading material and toys for children, etc. By this standard the libraries should be extinct? This doctor has counted "dirty dozen", the dozen dirty places to be careful about for possible disease catching places. Most of these places are public, why then, he did not mention libraries? What do you think about this article/matter? Regards Saleem Glasgow, Scotland _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Wed Aug 22 12:26:37 2007 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (ponslm)) Date: Wed Aug 22 12:28:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Personal anecdote: My father was a virologist, and worked especially with the flu virus and Aids viruses. He worked with Nobel Prize winners (including one who developed polio vaccine). He said that over use of soaps and sanitizers to destroy germs could (to somehwat oversimplify) result in superbugs, as well as mutations. He did encourage us to wash our hands and such, but, as you said in your statement, a little exposure was not necessarily a bad thing. FWIW... Lisa Pons-Haitz University of Cincinnati > But, there are some who argue that trying too hard to live in > a germ free environment makes people more likely rather than > less likely to get sick because a person's body has no > opportunity to develop immunity by gradual exposure. An > example of this is the school/daycare experience. A child's > first year in daycare or school is usually full of minor > illnesses; then it slows or stops because the child has > developed immunities to the common "germs". Here is an > article that covers this topic relating to children and > allergies- > http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/00-01winter/germs.html . I > have read loads of material over the years presenting this > view point with regard to living in general. Does anyone have > better access to journal articles about this? > From jaf30 at cornell.edu Wed Aug 22 12:48:46 2007 From: jaf30 at cornell.edu (John Fereira) Date: Wed Aug 22 12:49:21 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20070822124529.0365c008@postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> At 12:05 PM 8/22/2007, Hogue Melanie wrote: >In my library, we do wipe off the books after each circulation. That >doesn't clean the pages, though. > >Yes, libraries are a source of germs. Having said that, so are schools, >post offices, supermarkets, WalMart, airplanes and buses and their >terminals, and virtually EVERY public place that exists in the world. No >one would suggest that we all live our entire lives in our homes for >fear of touching something dirty. And, it certainly isn't a reason for >the extinction of libraries! It seems to me that keep a few boxes of those inexpensive disposable rubber gloves might be a good idea, especially for handling rarer materials. John Fereira jaf30@cornell.edu Ithaca, NY From tim at librarything.com Wed Aug 22 12:49:40 2007 From: tim at librarything.com (Tim Spalding) Date: Wed Aug 22 12:50:24 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63d3c8ce0708220949h503f0e2fwe50750b138a043a0@mail.gmail.com> I'm something of a germ freak and the thing that gets me are the clear plastic wraps that some libraries put around their books. Being clear, they make every fingerprint and stain all the more apparent, and, whether from use, age or heat, they get *sticky*. I can't imagine they protect the book that much and, to me at least, they communicate "this isn't a normal book, it's worse." Off to wash my hands ten times, standing on one leg. Tim On 8/22/07, Pons, Lisa (ponslm) wrote: > Personal anecdote: > > My father was a virologist, and worked especially with the flu virus and > Aids viruses. He worked with Nobel Prize winners (including one who > developed polio vaccine). He said that over use of soaps and sanitizers > to destroy germs could (to somehwat oversimplify) result in superbugs, > as well as mutations. He did encourage us to wash our hands and such, > but, as you said in your statement, a little exposure was not > necessarily a bad thing. > > FWIW... > > Lisa Pons-Haitz > University of Cincinnati > > > > > But, there are some who argue that trying too hard to live in > > a germ free environment makes people more likely rather than > > less likely to get sick because a person's body has no > > opportunity to develop immunity by gradual exposure. An > > example of this is the school/daycare experience. A child's > > first year in daycare or school is usually full of minor > > illnesses; then it slows or stops because the child has > > developed immunities to the common "germs". Here is an > > article that covers this topic relating to children and > > allergies- > > http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/00-01winter/germs.html . I > > have read loads of material over the years presenting this > > view point with regard to living in general. Does anyone have > > better access to journal articles about this? > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From bkozlowski at sals.edu Wed Aug 22 13:03:30 2007 From: bkozlowski at sals.edu (Kozlowski,Brendon) Date: Wed Aug 22 13:04:39 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts References: <20070822160035.18EE0189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: For CSS only, if you don't want to rely on JavaScript (except for an IE6 lack of support), I use a variation on Nick Rigby's "dropdown3" example for our staff intranet navigational menu. The problems you may face with many or some of these examples are viewport issues. If a navigational item "flies out" or "drops down" outside of the visible area, you can't always access it. There are also issues when JavaScript isn't enabled in (or compatible with) the browser being used. This is why I recommend the previous link I suggested - however, there are many solutions out there, some may be more beneficial to you than others. Good luck! http://www.nickrigby.com/examples/ Brendon Kozlowski Web Administrator Saratoga Springs Public Library 49 Henry Street Saratoga Springs, NY, 12866 [518] 584-7860 x217 ________________________________ From: "Michele Hampshire" Subject: RE: [Web4lib] javascript flyouts To: "Raumin \"Ray\" Dehghan" , "web4lib" Message-ID: <995A163908335D4983530B312C6F0C77018DDA54@mail.mv.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" With just a teensy bit of javascript and some wicked cool CSS, Suckerfish deserves a look. http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/ Michele Hampshire Web Librarian Mill Valley Public Library 375 Throckmorton Ave. Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-389-4292 x107 http://millvalleylibrary.org From pat.knuth at us.army.mil Wed Aug 22 13:12:48 2007 From: pat.knuth at us.army.mil (pat.knuth@us.army.mil) Date: Wed Aug 22 13:14:55 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I seem to remember reading something about many bacteria drying out and dying quickly when they were on fabric. I suspect the same thing would be the case for most book pages. However, they probably wouldn't die as quickly on the clear book protectors. But the difference between a library or other public places and a Dr.'s office or a hospital is that there is a concentration of sick people at a Dr.'s office or hospital. There is more chance of touching something that was just touched/contaminated by a sick person. Lisa - was your father concerned about the overuse of soaps in general, or was it antibacterial soaps? I thought regular soap just made it easier to wash the germs away, rather than killing them. Pat Knuth Systems Librarian European Regional Librarian & Support Center DSN 314-370-7680 or 7430 Comm: +49-6221-57-7680 or 7430 pat.knuth@us.army.mil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pons, Lisa (ponslm)" Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 18:30 Subject: RE: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Personal anecdote: > > My father was a virologist, and worked especially with the flu > virus and > Aids viruses. He worked with Nobel Prize winners (including one who > developed polio vaccine). He said that over use of soaps and > sanitizersto destroy germs could (to somehwat oversimplify) result > in superbugs, > as well as mutations. He did encourage us to wash our hands and such, > but, as you said in your statement, a little exposure was not > necessarily a bad thing. > > FWIW... > > Lisa Pons-Haitz > University of Cincinnati > > > > > But, there are some who argue that trying too hard to live in > > a germ free environment makes people more likely rather than > > less likely to get sick because a person's body has no > > opportunity to develop immunity by gradual exposure. An > > example of this is the school/daycare experience. A child's > > first year in daycare or school is usually full of minor > > illnesses; then it slows or stops because the child has > > developed immunities to the common "germs". Here is an > > article that covers this topic relating to children and > > allergies- > > http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/00-01winter/germs.html . I > > have read loads of material over the years presenting this > > view point with regard to living in general. Does anyone have > > better access to journal articles about this? > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From msimon at desu.edu Wed Aug 22 13:18:17 2007 From: msimon at desu.edu (Matthew J. Simon) Date: Wed Aug 22 13:24:13 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: <63d3c8ce0708220949h503f0e2fwe50750b138a043a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3473359.89181187803097207.JavaMail.root@zimbra1.desu.edu> I sympathize with the concerns expressed about contamination in libraries.? As a librarian and as a very active consultant, I have written and advised on Sick (Library Building Syndrome).? Happily, I am not aware of a single, documented instance in which someone has become sick from e.coli or other pathogens that used books or periodicals as an intermediary host. Libraries, do however, pose health risks that come from dust, which is generated by paper and mites that live on dust.? This can be controlled by making certain that books on shelves are periodically dusted using an impregnated cloth that helps collect the dust particles and the mites rather than simply moving them around. Libraries also pose risks because, paper when exposed to prolonged humidity and air that doesn't circulate can encourage the growth of mold and mildew in concentrations that can pose health risks.? Mold and mildew are naturally present in most environments and only become problematic if the concentration of spores becomes too great.? When this happens, the spores are readily transported through the HVAC system and can spread throughout the building? The key to making certain that this doesn't happen is PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.? This is too often an underappreciated process in cash-strapped organizations where emptying waste paper baskets, pushing a vacuum cleaner and a mop and making certain that there is t-p in the restroom. What are basic PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE techniques? ? Make certain that all leaks from ceilings, windows, roofs, ventilating systems are promptly attended to.? Standing water is the breeding ground for mold and mildew. ? Make certain that air filtration systems in the library HVAC are checked and filters cleaned or replaced at the recommended time (as listed in the systems operator's manual) ? Ductwork should be cleaned periodically, and not everytime the library is replace as is the case in most libraries. ? Periodically wiping down books with treated clothes will remove spores and dust. ? Make certain that air distribution outlets (VAV's if you want to knock the socks off your builiding manager by talking "technical." are operable and the covers are dusted. ? If you should discover black mold or mildew, it must be removed immediately, again using treated cloths, or in extreme situations throwing out the infected books or periodicals, or carpeting or furmiture. ? Make certain that food is stored in sealed containers and not, unwrapped in your staff member's desk drawers.? This also discourages the invasion of mice, rats, roaches, and other crawlies which ARE real health risks. ? COMMON SENSE It is realy unfortunate that the nation's ad writers have deliberately created a climate of fear in which disinfect and 99% germ free have become the mantra chanted by many many people.? But there are those who believe the germs are going to get me and open doors with elbows, carry wipes, disinfectants, Purell, etc.and would happily invest in body condoms if they thought they could be protected.? For those who are fearful of "contamination" in libraries, I respectfully suggest that the library invest in some boxes of platic food handlers gloves.? It won't allay their fears, but they may actually believe that they won't get sick in the library if they wear them. Matthew Simon From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Wed Aug 22 13:23:14 2007 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (ponslm)) Date: Wed Aug 22 13:26:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for asking for clarification: he was concerned about antibacterial everything, not just soaps. He always told us regular soaps were fine for everyday needs. Basically, as has been said, some exposure was good to develop immunity. > -----Original Message----- > From: pat.knuth@us.army.mil [mailto:pat.knuth@us.army.mil] > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:13 PM > To: Pons, Lisa (ponslm) > Cc: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: Re: RE: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? > > I seem to remember reading something about many bacteria > drying out and dying quickly when they were on fabric. I > suspect the same thing would be the case for most book pages. > However, they probably wouldn't die as quickly on the clear > book protectors. > > But the difference between a library or other public places > and a Dr.'s office or a hospital is that there is a > concentration of sick people at a Dr.'s office or hospital. > There is more chance of touching something that was just > touched/contaminated by a sick person. > > Lisa - was your father concerned about the overuse of soaps > in general, or was it antibacterial soaps? I thought regular > soap just made it easier to wash the germs away, rather than > killing them. > > Pat Knuth > Systems Librarian > European Regional Librarian & Support Center DSN 314-370-7680 or 7430 > Comm: +49-6221-57-7680 or 7430 > pat.knuth@us.army.mil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pons, Lisa (ponslm)" > Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 18:30 > Subject: RE: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > > > Personal anecdote: > > > > My father was a virologist, and worked especially with the > flu virus > > and Aids viruses. He worked with Nobel Prize winners (including one > > who developed polio vaccine). He said that over use of soaps and > > sanitizersto destroy germs could (to somehwat oversimplify) > result in > > superbugs, as well as mutations. He did encourage us to > wash our hands > > and such, but, as you said in your statement, a little exposure was > > not necessarily a bad thing. > > > > FWIW... > > > > Lisa Pons-Haitz > > University of Cincinnati > > > > > > > > > But, there are some who argue that trying too hard to > live in a germ > > > free environment makes people more likely rather than > less likely to > > > get sick because a person's body has no opportunity to develop > > > immunity by gradual exposure. An example of this is the > > > school/daycare experience. A child's first year in > daycare or school > > > is usually full of minor illnesses; then it slows or > stops because > > > the child has developed immunities to the common "germs". > Here is an > > > article that covers this topic relating to children and > > > allergies- > > > http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/00-01winter/germs.html > . I have > > > read loads of material over the years presenting this view point > > > with regard to living in general. Does anyone have better > access to > > > journal articles about this? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > From tim at librarything.com Wed Aug 22 13:45:24 2007 From: tim at librarything.com (Tim Spalding) Date: Wed Aug 22 13:56:08 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <63d3c8ce0708221045m14c07ed7v1a5e9465d04e749e@mail.gmail.com> Well, the word on the street is that kids raised on farms have fewer allergies. But what about kids raised in reading rooms? T On 8/22/07, Pons, Lisa (ponslm) wrote: > Thank you for asking for clarification: he was concerned about > antibacterial everything, not just soaps. He always told us regular > soaps were fine for everyday needs. > > Basically, as has been said, some exposure was good to develop immunity. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pat.knuth@us.army.mil [mailto:pat.knuth@us.army.mil] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:13 PM > > To: Pons, Lisa (ponslm) > > Cc: web4lib@webjunction.org > > Subject: Re: RE: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? > > > > I seem to remember reading something about many bacteria > > drying out and dying quickly when they were on fabric. I > > suspect the same thing would be the case for most book pages. > > However, they probably wouldn't die as quickly on the clear > > book protectors. > > > > But the difference between a library or other public places > > and a Dr.'s office or a hospital is that there is a > > concentration of sick people at a Dr.'s office or hospital. > > There is more chance of touching something that was just > > touched/contaminated by a sick person. > > > > Lisa - was your father concerned about the overuse of soaps > > in general, or was it antibacterial soaps? I thought regular > > soap just made it easier to wash the germs away, rather than > > killing them. > > > > Pat Knuth > > Systems Librarian > > European Regional Librarian & Support Center DSN 314-370-7680 or 7430 > > Comm: +49-6221-57-7680 or 7430 > > pat.knuth@us.army.mil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pons, Lisa (ponslm)" > > Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 18:30 > > Subject: RE: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? > > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > > > > > Personal anecdote: > > > > > > My father was a virologist, and worked especially with the > > flu virus > > > and Aids viruses. He worked with Nobel Prize winners (including one > > > who developed polio vaccine). He said that over use of soaps and > > > sanitizersto destroy germs could (to somehwat oversimplify) > > result in > > > superbugs, as well as mutations. He did encourage us to > > wash our hands > > > and such, but, as you said in your statement, a little exposure was > > > not necessarily a bad thing. > > > > > > FWIW... > > > > > > Lisa Pons-Haitz > > > University of Cincinnati > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, there are some who argue that trying too hard to > > live in a germ > > > > free environment makes people more likely rather than > > less likely to > > > > get sick because a person's body has no opportunity to develop > > > > immunity by gradual exposure. An example of this is the > > > > school/daycare experience. A child's first year in > > daycare or school > > > > is usually full of minor illnesses; then it slows or > > stops because > > > > the child has developed immunities to the common "germs". > > Here is an > > > > article that covers this topic relating to children and > > > > allergies- > > > > http://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/hmm/00-01winter/germs.html > > . I have > > > > read loads of material over the years presenting this view point > > > > with regard to living in general. Does anyone have better > > access to > > > > journal articles about this? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Web4lib mailing list > > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From suethoma at iusb.edu Wed Aug 22 14:09:56 2007 From: suethoma at iusb.edu (Thomas, Susan Elaine) Date: Wed Aug 22 14:11:45 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20070822124529.0365c008@postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20070822124529.0365c008@postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu> Message-ID: A few years back I went to a disaster preparedness workshop, mostly for public librarians. Someone there asked a question about children's books being returned from a household known or busted for Meth. The response that came back was to throw them away. I have not seen anyone else really tackle this issue so it would be interesting to find out how much of a hazard books like that might really pose. Susan E. Thomas suethoma@iusb.edu South Bend, IN -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of John Fereira Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:49 PM To: Hogue Melanie; web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTAMINATION? At 12:05 PM 8/22/2007, Hogue Melanie wrote: >In my library, we do wipe off the books after each circulation. That >doesn't clean the pages, though. > >Yes, libraries are a source of germs. Having said that, so are schools, >post offices, supermarkets, WalMart, airplanes and buses and their >terminals, and virtually EVERY public place that exists in the world. No >one would suggest that we all live our entire lives in our homes for >fear of touching something dirty. And, it certainly isn't a reason for >the extinction of libraries! It seems to me that keep a few boxes of those inexpensive disposable rubber gloves might be a good idea, especially for handling rarer materials. John Fereira jaf30@cornell.edu Ithaca, NY _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From bonnie.tijerina at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 14:47:00 2007 From: bonnie.tijerina at gmail.com (Bonnie Tijerina) Date: Wed Aug 22 14:47:04 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Call for Manuscripts and Reviews Editor - Journal of Electronic Resources Librarianship Message-ID: The Journal of Electronic Resources Librarianship(JERL) is a peer-reviewed journal concerning issues in electronic resources librarianship. The journal is published quarterly by The Haworth Press (Taylor & Francis). Submissions are being accepted for the inaugural and future issues of this journal. http://www.jerl-info.com/announcement/view/1 JERL is also looking for a Reviews Editor who will be charged with editing a review section to include books and other resources of interest in the field. http://www.jerl-info.com/announcement/view/2 This journal aims to inform librarians and other information professionals about evolving work-related processes and procedures, current research and the latest news on topics related to electronic resources and the digital environment's impact on collecting, acquiring and making accessible library materials. Suggested topics include, but are not limited to, the following: Collecting electronic resources ? Assessment/evaluation of e-resources, Collection planning, Balancing Electronic with print, Determining value of e-resources, Policies and procedures in maintenance of digital resources and collections Managing electronic collections ? Licensing, negotiation, and alternatives, Stewardship and Preservation of e-resources, Standards, Cross-functional work/workflow, Library-vendor relations Making digital collections accessible to users ? User preferences and expectations, Digital Rights Management, E-resources delivery/promotion, Information needs and behavior of users, Marketing and promotion of e-resources, Search & Locate Tools Scholarly Communication issues ? Intellectual Property, Copyright and Fair Use, History of publishing, Changing nature of research in digital environment, Economics of e-resources in libraries Digital Libraries and digital collections ? Digitization/re-digitization projects, Digital repositories within the larger collection Changing environment and the effects on libraries ? Planning the digital future, Changing nature of librarianship, Organizational change, Collaboration/collaborative work environments JERL strives to find a balance between original, scholarly research, and practical communications about relevant topics in electronic resources librarianship. The journal will publish the following types of articles: ? Peer-reviewed articles of a scholarly (original research) nature ? Practice-related articles, such as case studies or pieces on the state of the field/new areas of work ? Review articles of books, conferences, and other resources of interest in the field ? Editorial/guest columns on topics of interest to those who work with electronic resources Query letters to the editor to determine suitability for the Journal of Electronic Resources Librarianship are welcome. Bonnie Tijerina Editor, Journal of Electronic Resources Librarianship http://www.jerl-info.com -- Bonnie Tijerina Electronic Resources Coordinator, Collection Development Georgia Institute of Technology Library and Information Center Atlanta, GA 30332-0900 404-385-2044 AIM: bltijerina bonnie.tijerina@library.gatech.edu From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed Aug 22 14:50:43 2007 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed Aug 22 14:51:29 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTIMINATION? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46CC8583.6060909@ohiolink.edu> Folks-- This thread is off-topic for Web4Lib. As described in the posting policy at , all posts "must relate, however slightly, to the general topic of World Wide Web systems and libraries or library staff." The board supports a very broad range of threads that touch on web-related technologies in libraries. But we've discussed this and decided that even with a broad interpretation, Web4Lib is just not the appropriate venue for this topic. -- Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From charleshobbs at cdrewu.edu Wed Aug 22 15:06:41 2007 From: charleshobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles Hobbs) Date: Wed Aug 22 15:06:45 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Clients and printing Message-ID: <2A1C3678D4175C4D942FDC8A420221E7911E8E@cdrew-exch1.cdrewu.edu> (Note, this message will be posted to Publib under a different account) We are considering using thin clients as our library and computer lab public workstations. We have a choice between Citrix-based and NComputing thin clients. Our question is: printing. We use a print manager (OCS) with our current workstations. The company that makes OCS has a Citrix-compatible version, but I haven't seen it work yet. As for the NComputing L200 thin clients, they are not Citrix based, and our current OCS doesn't really work well with them. (They'll print, but the user information screen shows up on the server, not on the workstation screen) Does anyone currently using either Citrix based or NComputing thin clients in their library have any insight into using managed printing? Thanks for any help. From leo at leoklein.com Wed Aug 22 16:52:46 2007 From: leo at leoklein.com (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed Aug 22 16:52:56 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] OneWebDay (9/22) - Any Plans? Message-ID: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> [sorry for cross-posting] OneWayDay is coming up in a month (Sat. 9/22) and it seems like something that might interest librarians: "The essence of OneWebDay is to create a global constituency that thinks of itself as responsible for the future of the internet, so that when negative things happen (censorship, restricted access, heavy-handed law enforcement control) people will act." http://www.onewebday.org/?p=228 One of the main organizers is Susan Crawford who's quite an impressive authority on telecommunications and net neutrality. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had anything planned. (FWIW, my own plans include taping some faculty/staff/students at UIC on how the Web has changed their lives and then putting the thing up on YouTube.) You can read more about the event at: http://www.onewebday.org LEO -- ------------------- www.leoklein.com (site) www.ChicagoLibrarian.com (blog) aim/msn/yhoo/goog: 'leorobertklein' From Stephen.Barnett at cdu.edu.au Wed Aug 22 19:52:10 2007 From: Stephen.Barnett at cdu.edu.au (Stephen Barnett) Date: Wed Aug 22 19:52:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 19 Can libraries be the source of contamination In-Reply-To: <20070822160038.82A4A189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: I already posted an item on this topic on one of my blogs last year: http://digitaldamage.blogspot.com/2006/11/times-past-or-have-you-washed- your.html Message: 4 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:11:23 +0100 From: saleem akhtar Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTIMINATION? To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi collective wisdom Can libraries become source of contamination? Many people borrow books from library and they all have different hygiene levels. For instance they may not wash their hands, after nature's call, and with same dirty hands flip through library books. Some people carelessly/intentionally can leave all sorts of dirt or germs on library books, do we have or can we think of any safeguard against this health hazard to library staff and other patrons, who may borrow the same books later? Can this be reason why medical professionals don't visit libraries often? Further, please read following article written by an ENT specialist on WEB MD, which started me thinking on these lines. http://blogs.webmd.com/all-ears/2006/06/dirty-places-part-3-your-doctors .htm l Please press ctrl and click and not enter key. Or paste the link in your browser's window. The doctor concerned in this article recommends avoiding reading magazines etc. in doctor's waiting room, because of possible contamination and hence advice people to bring their own reading material and toys for children, etc. By this standard the libraries should be extinct? This doctor has counted "dirty dozen", the dozen dirty places to be careful about for possible disease catching places. Most of these places are public, why then, he did not mention libraries? What do you think about this article/matter? Regards Saleem Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Anthony Troncale Subject: [Web4lib] Digital Library educational programs at METRO To: web4lib@webjunction.org Message-ID: <150680.86639.qm@web55107.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I recently organized a series of digital library educational programs for METRO NY. You can register for these programs at the METRO site: www.metro.org If you have an interest in staging similar programs at your institution please contact me at: Anthony Troncale, Digital Library Consulting 140 Seventh Avenue Suite #3C New York, NY 10011 212-463-7947 office, 646-645-7947 cell atroncale@yahoo.com http://home.nyc.rr.com/atron/ATConsulting.html I want to thank all those instructors and presenters for their cooperation in agreeing to the below programs. Wednesday, September 19, 2007 Greenstone 1: Introduction To Greenstone Open Source Digital Library Software (10:00AM - 1:00PM) Presented by Ian Witten, professor of Computer Science at the University of Waikato in New Zealand. This workshop is designed for those who want an introduction to building a digital library using an open source software program. The Greenstone Librarian Interface is designed for end users who may not have any programming expertise. It allows users to gather sets of documents, import or assign metadata, build them into a Greenstone collection, and display it on their web site. Collections can include text (including PDFs), pictures, audio and video. Prerequisites: Attendees should be familiar with HTML and the Web, and be aware of representation standards such as Unicode and Dublin Core. Registration fees: $75 members; $100 non-members Thursday, September 20, 2007 Greenstone 2: Advanced Course On The Greenstone Open Source Digital Library Software (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Ian Witten, professor of Computer Science at the University of Waikato in New Zealand. This advanced workshop is designed for those who already have digital collections and metadata ready for import and wish to move towards implementing a full open source digital library program. In this workshop participants will install the software and perform activities demonstrated in the introductory course. Then they will work through a series of practical exercises that involve designing, building, and customizing collections. The workshop will end with a brief discussion of the upcoming Greenstone3 product. Prerequisites: Participants are assumed to be broadly familiar with the basic functionality of the Greenstone system as described in the introductory course. Equipment: Windows laptops will be provided. Participants may bring their own if they wish; the Greenstone software will be installed as part of the lab. Participants who prefer to use a Mac or Unix laptop will have to pre-install Greenstone before coming to the lab. Registration fees: $200 members; $250 non-members Thursday, October 04, 2007 Advanced Digital Capture Systems And Imaging Techniques, Part I (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Peter Siegel, Director of the Cultural Heritage Division of Digital Transitions, Inc. This advanced workshop is designed for those who are familiar with, but want to learn more about, current digital capture technologies and techniques for making high-quality, high-resolution digital images. Digital library administrators, digital librarians, photographers, and department heads of imaging labs for museums and cultural institutions will find this workshop useful. Topics covered include optical systems (cameras) and optics, lighting types and techniques, digital color management (including policies and best practices), quality control measures, and the interpretation of targets. The final portion of the session will cover how to prepare an image for high-quality publication, including proofing, screen matching and press matching. Registration fees for Parts I and II: $200 members; $250 non-members Friday, October 05, 2007 Advanced Digital Capture Systems And Imaging Techniques, Part II (10:00AM - 12:30PM) Site Visit to Digital Transitions, Inc. Part II of the course is an on-site visit to the offices of Digital Transitions, Inc. at 35 West 35th Street, 2nd floor, New York, NY 10001. On the visit participants will get to see demonstrations of a large array of state-of-the-art digital capture equipment and lighting systems. Registration fees for Parts I and II: $200 members; $250 non-members Tuesday, October 09, 2007 Understanding And Implementing EAD (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Tom Frusciano, University Archivist for Rutgers University. This workshop is designed for those who want to learn the basics of how to develop electronic finding aids for archival collections. Participants will get an introduction to the history and development of Encoded Archival Description (EAD) and will have the opportunity to create a finding aid using authoring tools and software. The course will touch upon the development of the EAD DTD, SGML/XLM vs. HTML, EAD structure and encoding issues, EAD-XML to HTML using XSLT and search and retrieval methods. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Tuesday, October 16, 2007 Community Forum: Introduction To OpenCollection (1:00PM - 4:00PM) Presented by Seth Kaufman, founder of Whirl-i-Gig, and Megan Forbes, Manager of Collection Information and Access at the Museum of the Moving Image in New York. This presentation is for those who are interested in collections management systems that are open sourced, thus freely available for download and implementation. OpenCollection is the product of collaboration between the Museum of the Moving Image and Whirl-I-Gig to produce a full-featured collections management and access application for museums, photo and moving-image archives and digital collections. It is designed to handle large, heterogeneous collections that have complex cataloguing requirements and require support for a range of metadata and media formats. Unlike other collections management applications, Open Collection is a true web-application. All cataloging, search and administrative functions are accessible via the Internet using common web-browser software, making cataloguing by distributed teams and online access to collections information simple, efficient and inexpensive. Support for the development of Open Collection has been provided by the Institute of Museum and Library Services and the New York State Council on the Arts. Registration fees: $10 member & nonmembers Friday, November 09, 2007 Digital Imaging For Libraries: Capture, Analysis And Quality Control (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Ray Murray, the Digital Conversion Specialist at the Library of Congress. Participants will be provided with an overview of how to determine what digital capture and conversion requirements are necessary and then be shown how to best describe proper capture specifications in a Request for Proposals or to instruct in-house scanning technicians on how to proceed. Participants will have a walk through on how to analyze and review digital images produced by vendors or by in-house staff using specific examples. The use of targets for determining tonal distribution, color accuracy, resolution and noise levels will be discussed. Other areas covered will be creating and managing administrative metadata, proper documentation of the conversion process, and establishment of a quality control workflow. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Wednesday, November 14, 2007Basic Color Management In Practice: Calibration, Configuration And Control (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Michael Bevans, partner and digital image software developer for Tribeca Imaging Labs, Inc., New York. The emphasis in this course will be on basic color management of computer and imaging equipment. The principles of color and color space in a digital environment will be discussed. Software used for calibrating and creating profiles for monitors and scanners will be demonstrated. Scanning targets for capture accuracy and evaluation will be displayed and discussed. Putting color management to practice will follow, including imbedding color profiles, white point and color temperature settings. Ambient light levels and other environmental workspace factors related to ISO 3664:2000 will be detailed so that participants may judge and color accuracy of image files by matching them with the original materials. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Friday, December 07, 2007 Teaching And Learning With Digital Images (10:00AM - 4:00PM) Presented by Elisa Lanzi, Director of the Imaging Center at Smith College. This workshop offers an opportunity for participants to examine issues and practices surrounding digital image use in teaching and learning. Focus will be on the pedagogical application of images in humanities teaching at colleges and universities. Issues related to image services for patrons, collaboration among disciplines and administrative units, and copyright will also be discussed. The workshop will include real-life examples, presentations, exercises, and moderated group discussions. Registration fees: $150 members; $200 non-members Anthony Troncale, Digital Library Consulting 140 Seventh Avenue Suite #3C New York, NY 10011 212-463-7947 office, 646-645-7947 cell atroncale@yahoo.com http://home.nyc.rr.com/atron/ATConsulting.html ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:14:23 -0700 From: "Walt Crawford" Subject: [Web4lib] Cites & Insights 7:10 available To: publib@webjunction.org, web4lib@webjunction.org, "Michelle Manafy" , PACS-L , penny Message-ID: <1dc292630708220714r63dbe4fbu655d537a0ad8f39@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cites & Insights 7:10, September 2007, is now available for downloading at http://citesandinsights.info/civ7i10.pdf The 26-page issue, PDF as usual with most essays also available in HTML form from http://citesandinsights.info/, includes: * Bibs & Blather - A new book is on its way, Public Library Blogs: 252 examples. * Making it Work - Successes and failures in changing libraries * Following Up and Feedback - Extending the conversation for eight or nine previous essays, including substantial new sections adding to "On the Literature" and "On Authority, Worth and Linkbaiting." * Net Media: Wikipedia and Other Wiki Notes * Trends & Quick Takes - Four trends (including notes on Second Life) and seven quicker takes * Interesting & Peculiar Products - Two products and seven editors' choice/roundup notes. * My Back Pages - six mini-rants. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ End of Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 19 *************************************** From thadguidry at gmail.com Wed Aug 22 21:11:05 2007 From: thadguidry at gmail.com (Thad Guidry) Date: Wed Aug 22 21:11:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase invitations Message-ID: I have 5 Freebase.com invitations to give. Reply if you'd like one. First come first serve. Thad From dmattison at shaw.ca Thu Aug 23 01:49:27 2007 From: dmattison at shaw.ca (D.H. Mattison) Date: Thu Aug 23 01:50:18 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary In-Reply-To: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> References: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> Message-ID: <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> August 22, 2007 Freebase (http://www.freebase.com/signin) appears to be live and open in its alpha state and no invitation is necessary to register for a free account. I requested an invitation a day or two ago and received it today. During the time I registered, activated my account, and started putting in some information, the site appears to have opened itself up to the whole Internet. I checked with two different browsers just to make sure that URL worked. It's a pretty amazing system and I think it will rival Wikipedia in its utility over time. The initial content comes from Wikipedia and other open sources. With an open API, active development and reuse of the data is encouraged. David Mattison The Ten Thousand Year Blog (http://www.davidmattison.ca/wordpress) From RParker at groupwise.swin.edu.au Thu Aug 23 02:07:38 2007 From: RParker at groupwise.swin.edu.au (Rebecca Parker) Date: Thu Aug 23 02:08:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary In-Reply-To: <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> References: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> Message-ID: <46CDB0D0.A1B1.0016.0@groupwise.swin.edu.au> Hi everyone David is right: Freebase is now in public alpha, which means that anyone can view the data but write access is still restricted to registered users (see email news release below): --------------------------------------------- Rebecca Parker ARROW Project Officer Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn VIC 3122 Phone: +61 3 9214 4806 Email: RParker@groupwise.swin.edu From: Freebase Alpha List To: Date: 23/08/2007 07:24 am Subject: Freebase now open for public read access Freebase.com is now in "public alpha". Anybody in the world can search and browse the site. All applications based on the Freebase API have public read access. http://www.freebase.com Also, thanks to great feedback from an active alpha community, the Freebase site has improved quite a bit, and there is a growing group of enthusiastic contributors and developers. There is a lot of new data -- over 30,000 films, 500,000 notable people, more sports, businesses, science and so on. Regards Rebecca >>> From: "D.H. Mattison" To: web4lib Date: 23/08/2007 15:59 pm Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary August 22, 2007 Freebase (http://www.freebase.com/signin) appears to be live and open in its alpha state and no invitation is necessary to register for a free account. I requested an invitation a day or two ago and received it today. During the time I registered, activated my account, and started putting in some information, the site appears to have opened itself up to the whole Internet. I checked with two different browsers just to make sure that URL worked. It's a pretty amazing system and I think it will rival Wikipedia in its utility over time. The initial content comes from Wikipedia and other open sources. With an open API, active development and reuse of the data is encouraged. David Mattison The Ten Thousand Year Blog (http://www.davidmattison.ca/wordpress) _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ Swinburne University of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 00111D NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee. They may contain information that is privileged or protected by copyright. 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From pshapiro at his.com Thu Aug 23 11:34:06 2007 From: pshapiro at his.com (Phil Shapiro) Date: Thu Aug 23 11:34:16 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] profile article on linux.com Message-ID: <1187883246.46cda8eeb2647@webmail2.his.com> hi web4lib community, in case it might be of interest, there's a kindly worded profile article about me on linux.com at http://www.linux.com/feature/118670 while i like my current job a lot, i'm looking to move to a public library where there's a stronger digital vision -- a vision that includes citizen journalism training and other means of bringing voice to the community. there's so much that's possible in this digital age. we owe it to our communities to explore all the new ways public libraries can serve their needs, building upon library traditions of the past. phil shapiro, public geek takoma park maryland library -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro@his.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates "Learning happens through gentleness." From lfoley at nedcc.org Thu Aug 23 12:04:52 2007 From: lfoley at nedcc.org (Lori Foley) Date: Thu Aug 23 12:12:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position at Northeast Document Conservation Center Message-ID: <000601c7e59f$57664770$786410ac@NEDCC.local> The Northeast Document Conservation Center (NEDCC) has reopened the search for a Field Service Representative responsible for providing preservation education, consultation, and information through NEDCC?s well-established Field Service Program. This position focuses primarily on preservation education and outreach activities. The Field Service Representative reports to the Director of Field Service. Primary responsibilities: Develops and conducts workshops, lectures, training, and conference presentations throughout the NEDCC region and beyond; as part of NEDCC?s reference service, provides preservation information and referrals to specialists via telephone, e-mail, and mail; works with the Director of Field Service to coordinate and implement special events and grant projects; works with the Director of Field Service to develop workshop topics and implement NEDCC?s preservation workshop series; develops workshop calendar and maintains a list of potential speakers; serves as liaison with guest lecturers who contribute to preservation workshops on NEDCC?s behalf; works with the Bookkeeper to arrange for guest lecturers? honoraria and for reimbursement of workshop-related travel expenses incurred by guest lecturers; works with Development and Public Relations Coordinator to develop and process post-workshop evaluations. Secondary responsibilities: Maintains familiarity with preservation literature and resources; maintains the Field Service department technical files; assists in providing 24-hour disaster assistance over the telephone and/or on site; researches, writes, and edits various publications, including preservation leaflets, bibliographies, newsletter articles, and promotional literature; manages group tours of NEDCC facilities, including planning and scheduling, notification of department heads, and billing (if appropriate); also, conducts tours as required; conducts preservation planning surveys as required; other duties as assigned by the Director of Field Service. Position requirements: MLS plus one to two years of specialized preservation education or work experience; teaching experience; excellent oral and written communication skills; excellent interpersonal skills; strong project management skills; knowledge of current digitization trends and practices. This NEH grant-funded position offers competitive salary and benefits. NEDCC is an equal opportunity employer. To apply, send letter of application, r?sum?, writing sample, and three references to: Lori Foley Director of Field Service Northeast Document Conservation Center 100 Brickstone Square Andover, MA 01810 T: 978.470.1010 F: 978.475.6021 lfoley@nedcc.org www.nedcc.org From mbard at alawash.org Thu Aug 23 16:05:03 2007 From: mbard at alawash.org (Mark A. Bard) Date: Thu Aug 23 16:08:09 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting -> ALA Washington Office Communications Specialist Message-ID: <6EEF089FC9523345B836CAACBBD9F2CCFA5104@alaexch01.alawash.internal> Here is a job posting of potential interest: The American Library Association seeks a Communications Specialist for its office in Washington, DC. This position will manage the content, design and production of the ALA's Washington Office website and electronic and print publications. Responsibilities include: 1. Maintenance of a member-focused website and design of print publications and graphics for special events. 2. Seeking out new and emerging web technologies to serve the office's communication needs. 3. Translating complicated legislative and public policy jargon into easy-to- understand language. Requirements: 3-5 years related experience using web technologies; Bachelor's degree in English, Journalism or related field preferred as well as some experience working with libraries. Must possess electronic and print design skills including an interest in seeking out new and emerging web technologies, as well as excellent writing skills. Understanding of and interest in library issues, attention to detail, and excellent proofreading skills. Ability to manage shifting, multiple priorities and projects under pressure of tight deadlines. Advanced skills necessary using Quark Express or other desktop publishing software; Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator; and HTML as well as web content management software. Experience with JavaScript, CSS, streaming video, and other emerging web communication tools desired. Salary range to mid forties; negotiable based on experience level. Interested candidates should forward their resume and letter of application to: American Library Association, Human Resources Dept. Ref. CommSpecWashOffice, 50 E. Huron St, Chicago, IL 60611, fax: 312/944-6763, email: mpullen@ala.org. The American Library Association is an equal opportunity employer. Applications are invited from women, minorities, veterans, and people with disabilities. Mark Bard Information Technology Policy Specialist ALA Office for Information Technology Policy 1615 New Hampshire Avenue NW, First Floor Washington, DC 20009 voice (800) 941-8478 fax (202) 628-8419 From mark.gilman at dallaslibrary.org Thu Aug 23 16:19:15 2007 From: mark.gilman at dallaslibrary.org (Gilman, Mark) Date: Thu Aug 23 16:19:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Can Libraries be Sources of Contamination? In-Reply-To: <20070823160031.D8B39189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <8887EAE825FE224FAA0B46E01FF14388014D382D@EXCTY05.city.dallastx.cod> Japan is one place where there has been a bit of an obsession with antibacterial products and some recent thinking on the unintended consequences following therefrom. Here is a quick, interesting summary of the issues: http://web-japan.org/trends98/honbun/ntj970730.html Regards, Mark Gilman Municipal Reference Librarian Urban Information Center Dallas Public Library 1515 Young St., 6th floor. Dallas, TX 75201 214-670-1482 http://dallaslibrary.org/cgi/cui.htm -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of saleem akhtar Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:11 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTIMINATION? Importance: High Hi collective wisdom Can libraries become source of contamination? Many people borrow books from library and they all have different hygiene levels. For instance they may not wash their hands, after nature's call, and with same dirty hands flip through library books. Some people carelessly/intentionally can leave all sorts of dirt or germs on library books, do we have or can we think of any safeguard against this health hazard to library staff and other patrons, who may borrow the same books later? Can this be reason why medical professionals don't visit libraries often? Further, please read following article written by an ENT specialist on WEB MD, which started me thinking on these lines. http://blogs.webmd.com/all-ears/2006/06/dirty-places-part-3-your-doctors .htm l Please press ctrl and click and not enter key. Or paste the link in your browser's window. The doctor concerned in this article recommends avoiding reading magazines etc. in doctor's waiting room, because of possible contamination and hence advice people to bring their own reading material and toys for children, etc. By this standard the libraries should be extinct? This doctor has counted "dirty dozen", the dozen dirty places to be careful about for possible disease catching places. Most of these places are public, why then, he did not mention libraries? What do you think about this article/matter? Regards Saleem Glasgow, Scotland _______________________________________________ From sdeng at ccclib.org Thu Aug 23 16:57:22 2007 From: sdeng at ccclib.org (sdeng@ccclib.org) Date: Thu Aug 23 16:57:25 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Opening Message-ID: INFORMATION SYSTEMS PROGRAMMER/ANALYST II Monthly Salary Range $5,076- $6,171 The Contra Costa County Library is seeking an enthusiastic person to fill a full-time position of Information Systems Programmer/Analyst II. Contra Costa County is a growing community located directly east of San Francisco, and is one of the nine counties in the San Francisco/Bay Area. The current population is approximately 1,016,300. There are 25 community libraries, with plans to build or renovate multiple library facilities over the next 10 years. The Information Systems Programmer Analyst will provide project and technology leadership and participate in the implementation of an ambitious strategic plan that utilizes technology to enhance library service delivery. Incumbents in this class receive only occasional instruction or assistance as new or unusual situations arise and are fully aware of the operating procedures and policies of the work unit. Typical Projects Include: ? Preparing project descriptions, cost estimates, timelines, and justifications for new or enhanced library operations ? Operations Management for automated book dispensing machines ? Research and development of an automated call center ? Consult with customers to determine software and system design specifications ? Coordinating new building and library renovation projects Highly Desirable Skills: ? Demonstrated ability to work in team environment ? Familiarity with or interest in library technologies ? Knowledge of principles for project management ? Ability to work independently as well as in a collaborative environment ? Ability to refine project requirements ? Ability to coordinate activities with related units ? Ability to plan, document and complete projects independently or with a project team ? Ability to communicate effectively with non-technical staff The eligible list established as a result of this recruitment will remain in effect for six (6) months. PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES: Information Systems Programmer/Analyst II may promote after demonstrated proficiency to the class of Information Systems Programmer/Analyst III monthly salary $5605 - $6813. To find out more about the Contra Costa County Library and this position, visit http://ccclib.org MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS Education: Possession of an Associate of Arts degree from an accredited college with a major in computer science or information processing; OR completion of 24 semester units or 36 quarter units in computer science or information systems. Experience: Two (2) years of full-time or its equivalent experience performing software applications programming and/or systems analysis. SELECTION PROCESS 1. Application Filing: Applicants are encouraged to apply on-line at www.cccounty.us/depart/hr, or, a completed Contra Costa County application and supplemental questionnaire must be received or postmarked by the final filing date of September 7, 2007. An application packet may be obtained by calling Library Administration at (925) 646-6423. 2. Oral Interview: An oral interview will be conducted by a Qualifications Appraisal Board in Martinez, Ca. The Board will evaluate candidates in job-related areas. Candidates must receive a rating of at least 70 from a majority of the Board members to be ranked on the employment list. (Weighted 100%) Stacie Deng Information Systems Programmer/Analyst Contra Costa County Library sdeng@ccclib.org From ssalomone at metro.org Thu Aug 23 16:59:36 2007 From: ssalomone at metro.org (Susan Salomone) Date: Thu Aug 23 17:01:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] New METRO Job Magnet Posting: Systems Analyst/Programmer (Columbia University Libraries) Message-ID: <43FC1C5807C2C34883C27E030B782F2C0D9E46@metrosvr.metro.local> Please excuse cross-postings. This message is being posted to multiple lists. The Columbia University Libraries recently posted a METRO Job Magnet announcement for a Systems Analyst/Programmer to help design and program an innovative Java / XML / web-based research tool for bringing together images, descriptions and scholarly information about extant papyri and clay tablets in collections worldwide. The METRO Magnet is the online job bank and career center maintained by the Metropolitan New York Library Council (www.metro.org). For more information about the position and the application process, please see the announcement at http://metrojobs.metro.org/?a=j&ID=QHBYTSMH45. Other jobs and RSS subscription information may be found by visiting the METRO Magnet home page at www.metro.org/magnet. Please note that the RSS feed is now at http://mercury.metro.org/rss/AK5B-latestposting.xml. Thank you. Susan Salomone METRO Magnet Project Manager ssalomone@metro.org Metropolitan New York Library Council From pdeanda at libraryassociates.com Thu Aug 23 19:26:02 2007 From: pdeanda at libraryassociates.com (Patty De Anda) Date: Thu Aug 23 19:26:12 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Available: Systems Librarian for government agency (Washington DC) Message-ID: <2490B2A4A4320D43B3C2AB11B542177CAA8743@hosted.netfusion.mail> LAC seeks a Systems Librarian to work in a government agency in Washington DC. Candidates must have either an MLS or 10+ years of relevant experience. Must have experience in the field of education. This is in support of a proposal we are currently bidding on. Responsibilities * Maintain ILS (SirsiDynix); * Maintain and update the web page and portal; * Reference & outreach; * Liaison activities; * Collection development. To Apply, please email resume to Patty De Anda, pdeanda@libraryassociates.com. Please include "Position #774" in your email and cover letter. EOE The information contained in this e-mail message is privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender. From maxlibris at gmail.com Thu Aug 23 20:37:27 2007 From: maxlibris at gmail.com (Max Anderson) Date: Thu Aug 23 20:37:30 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] One Web Day Message-ID: <520a6f0c0708231737o6e252e55l644de924473eb6e6@mail.gmail.com> I really like this idea - I wish that Sept. 22 didn't fall on a weekend though - I'll have to come up with a creative idea. Max Anderson SOLINET __________________ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:52:46 -0500 From: Leo Robert Klein Subject: [Web4lib] OneWebDay (9/22) - Any Plans? To: Web4lib@webjunction.org Message-ID: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [sorry for cross-posting] OneWayDay is coming up in a month (Sat. 9/22) and it seems like something that might interest librarians: "The essence of OneWebDay is to create a global constituency that thinks of itself as responsible for the future of the internet, so that when negative things happen (censorship, restricted access, heavy-handed law enforcement control) people will act." http://www.onewebday.org/?p=228 One of the main organizers is Susan Crawford who's quite an impressive authority on telecommunications and net neutrality. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had anything planned. (FWIW, my own plans include taping some faculty/staff/students at UIC on how the Web has changed their lives and then putting the thing up on YouTube.) You can read more about the event at: http://www.onewebday.org LEO From leo at leoklein.com Fri Aug 24 00:52:00 2007 From: leo at leoklein.com (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Fri Aug 24 00:52:04 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] One Web Day In-Reply-To: <520a6f0c0708231737o6e252e55l644de924473eb6e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <520a6f0c0708231737o6e252e55l644de924473eb6e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46CE63F0.4040803@leoklein.com> Max Anderson wrote: > I really like this idea - I wish that Sept. 22 didn't fall on a weekend > though - I'll have to come up with a creative idea. > I agree it would be better during the week. That's why I was thinking of taping people at UIC on the Thursday before (i.e. 9/20). There'd be more people that day anyway. Then on the day itself (i.e. Sat. 9/22) I'd put the results on YouTube with the tag "onewebday2007". For online stuff, they have the following suggested topics: + how the web has changed your life + how you?d like the web to change the world in the future + highlights of what you?ve seen online the day you make the video + your favorite online event ever + something you?ve done online with other people in other countries http://www.onewebday.org/?p=228 LEO -- ------------------- www.leoklein.com (site) www.ChicagoLibrarian.com (blog) aim/msn/yhoo/goog: 'leorobertklein' -- ------------------------------- From sri_lib at yahoo.com Fri Aug 24 03:30:55 2007 From: sri_lib at yahoo.com (sri priya) Date: Fri Aug 24 03:30:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Library and Information Science: Institutes in India Message-ID: <813938.74532.qm@web57012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Webindia123.com, a concern of Suni System (Pvt) Ltd (a web designing and hosting company) is India's premier reference portal which offers integrated solutions for enterprises/ professionals desiring to market their products and services through the Internet. Library and Information Science: Institutes in India http://www.webindia123.com/career/Lib/list_all.asp Regards, S.Sripriya --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. From richard.wiggins at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 09:16:19 2007 From: richard.wiggins at gmail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Fri Aug 24 09:16:25 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] One Web Day In-Reply-To: <46CE63F0.4040803@leoklein.com> References: <520a6f0c0708231737o6e252e55l644de924473eb6e6@mail.gmail.com> <46CE63F0.4040803@leoklein.com> Message-ID: Not to rain on the parade, but isn't the Web (and the Internet, which it is distinct from, though not treated as such popularly) now a part of the fabric of life? It's used for good and for ill by millions if not billions worldwide. To me, in the year 2007, this is almost as quaint as having "One Cell Phone Day" or "One Fax Machine Day." The Web, at least for anyone who can read this message, is factored into daily life. It is 2007. The Web revolution began in 1993. (TimBL claims earlier but I date it to the arrival of practical browsers and servers from NCSA, and images in HTML.) Anyone entering college at age 18 today literally grew up with the Web. The Web is too much a part of our lives in 2007 for a 1996 "Cool Site of the Day" mentality. The Web is us. ("We are the Web"?) If I were to participate in a "Day" I'd rather it be a cause -- support your local library, rising cost of e-journals, climate change, poverty, disease, peace, even preserving digital legacy. The Web causes many things to be possible, but it isn't itself a cause. /rich On 8/24/07, Leo Robert Klein wrote: > > Max Anderson wrote: > > I really like this idea - I wish that Sept. 22 didn't fall on a weekend > > though - I'll have to come up with a creative idea. > > > > I agree it would be better during the week. > > That's why I was thinking of taping people at UIC on the Thursday before > (i.e. 9/20). There'd be more people that day anyway. > > Then on the day itself (i.e. Sat. 9/22) I'd put the results on YouTube > with the tag "onewebday2007". > > For online stuff, they have the following suggested topics: > > + how the web has changed your life > > + how you'd like the web to change the world in the future > > + highlights of what you've seen online the day you make the video > > + your favorite online event ever > > + something you've done online with other people in other countries > > http://www.onewebday.org/?p=228 > > > LEO > > > -- ------------------- > www.leoklein.com (site) > www.ChicagoLibrarian.com (blog) > > aim/msn/yhoo/goog: 'leorobertklein' > -- ------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From marshn at usa.net Fri Aug 24 10:54:33 2007 From: marshn at usa.net (marshn@usa.net) Date: Fri Aug 24 10:54:42 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ODF, OOXML, in Ghana and the developing world Message-ID: <290LHXoNV8620S01.1187967273@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> Ramblings of an African Geek http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/ Writes an article on: Background information on ODF, OOXML and why It matters in the developing world http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/background-information-on-odf-ooxml-and-why-it-matters/ Speaking as someone who has a home in Ghana as well as the US, this matters a great deal to Ghana's IT future and information accessibility. If anyone on Web4Lib is in the position of explaining ODF and OOXML to managers or is justifying funding, or hosting or attending a visit from Microsoft on this topic, particularly in a developing country, this is as neat and clear an explanation as you can find. It provides a good starting point for questions. He summarizes the background, and describes the problem clearly and succinctly. Microsoft is sending PR teams around the world to push their products and viewpoints, I understand IBM is making some counter efforts. He attended a visit of Microsoft in Ghana, and has indicated he will be writing about that meeting, and about his questions in an upcoming post, which should be entertaining as well. As he wrote before the meeting: the Ghana Standards Board is jointly hosting a seminar with Microsoft about their OOXML document standard which the Standards Board will be voting on as an ISO spec. . . . I get to ask the MS presenter questions. And this being Ghana, I?m willing to bet money they do not expect an informed audience. Excerpt from: Background information on ODF, OOXML and why It matters in the developing world Developing countries are still building the vast majority of their IT infrastructure. This means that they do not have a massive base of old documents in a restricted format. Those documents are on paper. Their offices are still being computerized. Their people are still learning how to use those computers. If you are going to teach someone to use an office suite anyway, what difference does it make if that suite is MS Office, Openoffice.org or Google Writer? What difference does it make if those legacy paper documents go to ODF or OOXML? Either way the work has to be done and the money has to be spent. The problem is, what happens when you lock yourself into a company?s proprietary format because they are giving you free stuff and claim the format is open, then they start charging you for it and you realize all those alternatives they assured you existed can?t fully open your documents and you are stuck with them and their licence fees? http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/background-information-on-odf-ooxml-and-why-it-matters/ Nell Marshall From leo at leoklein.com Fri Aug 24 11:04:58 2007 From: leo at leoklein.com (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Fri Aug 24 11:05:07 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] One Web Day In-Reply-To: References: <520a6f0c0708231737o6e252e55l644de924473eb6e6@mail.gmail.com> <46CE63F0.4040803@leoklein.com> Message-ID: <46CEF39A.5050008@leoklein.com> You're right, if someone hasn't heard about the web by now, there's little a OneWebDay can do about it. That's not the idea. As I mentioned in an earlier quote: "The essence of OneWebDay is to create a global constituency that thinks of itself as responsible for the future of the internet, so that when negative things happen (censorship, restricted access, heavy-handed law enforcement control) people will act." http://www.onewebday.org/?p=228 Everyone is free to interpret the day as they wish. I admit it's pretty open ended. But as our dependence on the Web, as you point out, becomes increasingly important, so then do issues of access/bandwidth and ownership of the pipes. I'm just not sure how successful a 'OneNetNeutralityDay' or a 'OneStopFilteringInLibrariesDay' would be. So the idea is to take a positive approach to the medium. Reason to celebrate, I say. LEO -- ------------------- www.leoklein.com (site) www.ChicagoLibrarian.com (blog) aim/msn/yhoo/goog: 'leorobertklein' -- ------------------------------- Richard Wiggins wrote: > Not to rain on the parade, but isn't the Web (and the Internet, which it is > distinct from, though not treated as such popularly) now a part of the > fabric of life? It's used for good and for ill by millions if not billions > worldwide. > > To me, in the year 2007, this is almost as quaint as having "One Cell Phone > Day" or "One Fax Machine Day." The Web, at least for anyone who can read > this message, is factored into daily life. > > It is 2007. The Web revolution began in 1993. (TimBL claims earlier but I > date it to the arrival of practical browsers and servers from NCSA, and > images in HTML.) Anyone entering college at age 18 today literally grew up > with the Web. > > The Web is too much a part of our lives in 2007 for a 1996 "Cool Site of the > Day" mentality. The Web is us. ("We are the Web"?) If I were to participate > in a "Day" I'd rather it be a cause -- support your local library, rising > cost of e-journals, climate change, poverty, disease, peace, even preserving > digital legacy. The Web causes many things to be possible, but it isn't > itself a cause. > > /rich From andrew.hankinson at gmail.com Fri Aug 24 11:30:56 2007 From: andrew.hankinson at gmail.com (Andrew Hankinson) Date: Fri Aug 24 11:31:03 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ODF, OOXML, in Ghana and the developing world In-Reply-To: <290LHXoNV8620S01.1187967273@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> References: <290LHXoNV8620S01.1187967273@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Hot on the heels of this fine article, I just saw this in my newsreader: "India Throws Microsoft Open Format out of the Window" http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Software/ India_throws_Microsoft_open_format_out_of_the_window/articleshow/ 2305780.cms -Andrew From anders.ericson at norskbibliotekforening.no Fri Aug 24 13:48:13 2007 From: anders.ericson at norskbibliotekforening.no (Anders Ericson) Date: Fri Aug 24 13:52:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Book digitization Message-ID: <000301c7e676$f222e110$7b00a8c0@anders30b85ebf> I'm looking for up to date information on rather large scale book digitization (Google Book Search, Library of Congress but even smaller, but not flatbed scanning of a handful titles per year) and a comparison of software, user interfaces etc. Anders Ericson From rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com Fri Aug 24 15:09:48 2007 From: rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com (Robert L. Balliot) Date: Fri Aug 24 15:10:02 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] The Power of Library Books In-Reply-To: <005d01c7e67b$881a2850$e6670a0a@jack.pac.org> References: <843249.82084.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005d01c7e67b$881a2850$e6670a0a@jack.pac.org> Message-ID: <000c01c7e682$57645a80$6401a8c0@junior> Greetings, Here is a wonderful video of William Kamkwamba who recently spoke at TED in Africa. His library provided the book and he provided the insight and ingenuity to bring light - at the age of 14. The video is in Flash and you should click on (click to play) to activate it. http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/fourth/sciences.htm The power of books! ************************************************* Robert L. Balliot 1-401-441-5763 Skype: RBalliot Bristol, Rhode Island http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm ************************************************* From andrewc at vicnet.net.au Sat Aug 25 01:57:34 2007 From: andrewc at vicnet.net.au (Andrew Cunningham) Date: Sat Aug 25 01:57:37 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ODF, OOXML, in Ghana and the developing world In-Reply-To: <290LHXoNV8620S01.1187967273@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> References: <290LHXoNV8620S01.1187967273@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <1332.203.134.172.86.1188021454.squirrel@newmail.vicnet.net.au> I'd argue that from an African perspective there are more fundamental issues than which office suite application or document format you are using. Personally I'd prefer an open, fully documented file format. But there are other issues that also need to be addressed. The availability of font rendering technologies, fonts and input systems for African languages would be more fundamental issues. I love the approach Microsoft took with Nigerian languages in Windows Vista. They added Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo to the list of input languages available in Vista, but when you install those languages they use the US English keyboard layout. I.e. there are no Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo layouts and no way of typing the full alphabet of those languages, but they are defined input locales in Windows Vista.? Go figure. Andrew On Sat, August 25, 2007 12:54 am, marshn@usa.net wrote: > Ramblings of an African Geek > http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/ > Writes an article on: > Background information on ODF, OOXML and why It matters in the developing > world > http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/background-information-on-odf-ooxml-and-why-it-matters/ > > Speaking as someone who has a home in Ghana as well as the US, this > matters a > great deal to Ghana's IT future and information accessibility. If anyone > on > Web4Lib is in the position of explaining ODF and OOXML to managers or is > justifying funding, or hosting or attending a visit from Microsoft on this > topic, particularly in a developing country, this is as neat and clear an > explanation as you can find. It provides a good starting point for > questions. > He summarizes the background, and describes the problem clearly and > succinctly. Microsoft is sending PR teams around the world to push their > products and viewpoints, I understand IBM is making some counter efforts. > He > attended a visit of Microsoft in Ghana, and has indicated he will be > writing > about that meeting, and about his questions in an upcoming post, which > should > be entertaining as well. > > > As he wrote before the meeting: > the Ghana Standards Board is jointly hosting a seminar with Microsoft > about > their OOXML document standard which the Standards Board will be voting on > as > an ISO spec. > . . . > I get to ask the MS presenter questions. And this being Ghana, I?€™m > willing > to bet money they do not expect an informed audience. > > > Excerpt from: > Background information on ODF, OOXML and why It matters in the developing > world > > Developing countries are still building the vast majority of their IT > infrastructure. This means that they do not have a massive base of old > documents in a restricted format. Those documents are on paper. Their > offices > are still being computerized. Their people are still learning how to use > those > computers. If you are going to teach someone to use an office suite > anyway, > what difference does it make if that suite is MS Office, Openoffice.org or > Google Writer? What difference does it make if those legacy paper > documents go > to ODF or OOXML? Either way the work has to be done and the money has to > be > spent. > > The problem is, what happens when you lock yourself into a company?€™s > proprietary format because they are giving you free stuff and claim the > format > is open, then they start charging you for it and you realize all those > alternatives they assured you existed can?€™t fully open your documents > and > you are stuck with them and their licence fees? > > http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/background-information-on-odf-ooxml-and-why-it-matters/ > > > > Nell Marshall > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Andrew Cunningham Research and Development Coordinator Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia andrewc@vicnet.net.au From andrew.hankinson at gmail.com Sat Aug 25 02:43:40 2007 From: andrew.hankinson at gmail.com (Andrew Hankinson) Date: Sat Aug 25 02:43:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ODF, OOXML, in Ghana and the developing world In-Reply-To: <1332.203.134.172.86.1188021454.squirrel@newmail.vicnet.net.au> References: <290LHXoNV8620S01.1187967273@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> <1332.203.134.172.86.1188021454.squirrel@newmail.vicnet.net.au> Message-ID: <021D4C88-03EE-4FDA-9348-98E177C10CA7@gmail.com> I think the key here is that the developed world provide the developing world with the advances in the tools and techniques, and then they apply these tools to their specific situations. Open Source / Open Document formats are designed especially for this. Otherwise we end up with the situation you highlighted: the languages are there, but they're still waiting for Microsoft ("The West", if you will) to fix it instead of taking the initiative, learning the code and fixing it themselves. This serves two purposes - it helps the person develop important skills, but it also helps their neighbours by giving them tools in their own language, which they'll then use to build more tools, and it snowballs from there. Sure the first generation had to learn english to cope, but hopefully by the third or fourth generation they're on the way to independent sustainability. I'd love to see programming languages develop with a 'human' language that is not english at the core.** In many ways the developing countries are much further ahead of us - much like the use of cell phones in these countries. They're not tied to huge investments in physical infrastructure just to maintain what they have, (i.e. our 'landline' systems) and starting from "day 1" with an open document format will spare them some of the tough lessons we've learned about vendor lock-in and how far back that can set you in the long run. The grassroots movements in these developing countries have to take ownership on developing their own new technologies - such as font rendering and input systems. Give a man a fish, etc. etc. Frankly, and tangentially, I'm appalled at the sheer volume of important data that our society has amassed that's locked into proprietary formats. Everything from important government documents to unique works of literature and digital art are all in danger of being lost simply because we aren't guaranteed to be able to open them in the future. Looking into the future, if the librarians and archivists of today want to have a lasting legacy in the preservation of human knowledge in the digital age, they'll start phasing out the day-to-day use of, and not accepting into their collections, documents or formats that aren't truly open. Andrew ** Also tangentially related, but I think this would be a significant advancement in Computer Science as a whole. People who speak different human languages structure thoughts in different ways, so how much further ahead would we be to bring these different thought processes to a computer and have it tackle some of the limitations that using "English" thought patterns imposes. On 25-Aug-07, at 1:57 AM, Andrew Cunningham wrote: > > > I'd argue that from an African perspective there are more fundamental > issues than which office suite application or document format you are > using. > > Personally I'd prefer an open, fully documented file > format. But there are other issues that also need to be addressed. The > availability of font rendering technologies, fonts and input > systems for > African languages would be more fundamental issues. > > I love the > approach Microsoft took with Nigerian languages in Windows Vista. They > added Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo to the list of input languages > available in > Vista, but when you install those languages they use the US English > keyboard layout. I.e. there are no Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo layouts > and no > way of typing the full alphabet of those languages, but they are > defined > input locales in Windows Vista. Go figure. > > Andrew > > On Sat, August 25, 2007 12:54 am, marshn@usa.net wrote: >> > Ramblings of an African Geek >> http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/ >> Writes an article on: >> Background information on ODF, > OOXML and why It matters in the developing >> world >> > http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/background-information-on- > odf-ooxml-and-why-it-matters/ >> >> Speaking as someone who has a home in Ghana as well as > the US, this >> matters a >> great deal to Ghana's IT future > and information accessibility. If anyone >> on >> Web4Lib > is in the position of explaining ODF and OOXML to managers or is >> > justifying funding, or hosting or attending a visit from Microsoft on > this >> topic, particularly in a developing country, this is as > neat and clear an >> explanation as you can find. It provides a > good starting point for >> questions. >> He summarizes the > background, and describes the problem clearly and >> succinctly. > Microsoft is sending PR teams around the world to push their >> > products and viewpoints, I understand IBM is making some counter > efforts. > >> He >> attended a visit of Microsoft in Ghana, and has > indicated he will be >> writing >> about that meeting, and > about his questions in an upcoming post, which >> should >> > be entertaining as well. >> >> >> As he wrote > before the meeting: >> the Ghana Standards Board is jointly hosting > a seminar with Microsoft >> about >> their OOXML document > standard which the Standards Board will be voting on >> as >> an ISO spec. >> . . . >> I get to ask the MS > presenter questions. And this being Ghana, I?€™m >> willing >> to bet money they do not expect an informed > audience. >> >> >> Excerpt from: >> > Background information on ODF, OOXML and why It matters in the > developing >> world >> >> Developing countries are > still building the vast majority of their IT >> infrastructure. > This means that they do not have a massive base of old >> documents > in a restricted format. Those documents are on paper. Their >> > offices >> are still being computerized. Their people are still > learning how to use >> those >> computers. If you are going > to teach someone to use an office suite >> anyway, >> what > difference does it make if that suite is MS Office, Openoffice.org or >> Google Writer? What difference does it make if those legacy > paper >> documents go >> to ODF or OOXML? Either way the > work has to be done and the money has to >> be >> spent. >> >> The problem is, what happens when you lock yourself into > a company?€™s >> proprietary format because they > are giving you free stuff and claim the >> format >> is > open, then they start charging you for it and you realize all those >> alternatives they assured you existed can?€™t > fully open your documents >> and >> you are stuck with them > and their licence fees? >> >> > http://ghanageek.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/background-information-on- > odf-ooxml-and-why-it-matters/ >> >> >> >> Nell Marshall >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Web4lib mailing list >> Web4lib@webjunction.org >> > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ >> > > > -- > Andrew Cunningham > Research and Development Coordinator > Vicnet > State Library of Victoria > Australia > > andrewc@vicnet.net.au > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ __________________________ Andrew Hankinson, BMus, MLIS PhD Student, Music Technology McGill University andrew.hankinson@gmail.com From KWBrown at gwm.sc.edu Sat Aug 25 12:07:52 2007 From: KWBrown at gwm.sc.edu (Karen Brown) Date: Sat Aug 25 12:10:19 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Re: Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 22 Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Monday 8/27 and will not be back until Thursday 8/30. If you need immediate assistance please call the reference desk at 803-777-4267. From julied at lrl.leg.mn Sat Aug 25 12:09:50 2007 From: julied at lrl.leg.mn (julied@lrl.leg.mn) Date: Sat Aug 25 12:14:35 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 22 Message-ID: I will be out of the library from Monday Aug. 27th until Tuesday Sept. 4th. If you have a reference question, please e-mail refdesk@lrl.leg.mn or call 651-296-8338. From JEphraim at ci.southlake.tx.us Sat Aug 25 15:50:34 2007 From: JEphraim at ci.southlake.tx.us (Jesse Ephraim) Date: Sat Aug 25 15:50:40 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] CAN LIBRARIES BE SOURCE OF CONTIMINATION? In-Reply-To: <20070824160028.3F267189AE7@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20070824160028.3F267189AE7@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: >The doctor concerned in this article recommends avoiding >reading magazines etc. in doctor's waiting room, because of >possible contamination and hence advice people to bring their >own reading material and toys for children, etc. My bet is that there is a pretty big difference in the risk of infection from reading a magazine in a doctor's office (high and recent concentration of sick people) and reading one in a library. Remember that many disease-causing agents don't live very long outside of a host body. If we start to worry about germs on books and magazines in libraries or bookstores, then we would need to worry about the handles on grocery carts, doors, gas pumps, etc. Western society tends to be preoccupied with germs. We have swung too far the other way, though, becoming so clean that our immune systems are less well-equipped to deal with contagion. A certain amount of exposure to non-fatal disease-causing agents can be healthier than little exposure at all. Jesse Ephraim Youth Services Librarian Southlake Public Library 1400 Main Street, Suite 130 Southlake, TX 76092 (817) 748-8248 jephraim@ci.southlake.tx.us From gerrymck at iastate.edu Sun Aug 26 14:06:56 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Sun Aug 26 14:07:11 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** SciTech Social Networking Sites? For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social Networks [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites ] To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature Network* [ http://network.nature.com/ ] [ http://blogs.nature.com/wp/nascent/2006/06/nature_network_boston_launches.html ] I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. ***IntRAnet*** (and Local Efforts) (_as well as_ **IntERnet** Social Networking Sites (SNSs)) are also of interest. BTW-1: Nothing about IntRAnet/ SNSs in The Business Databases (ABI/Inform; Business and Company ASAP) [?] BTW-2: I am aware of LinkedIn [ http://www.linkedin.com/ ] and its Company Pages [ http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=company_directory&trk=gfoot_comp ] Thanks! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From gerrymck at iastate.edu Sun Aug 26 16:19:15 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Sun Aug 26 16:19:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ToBeContinued: Survey on Use of Social Networking Sites By Academic Librarians In-Reply-To: <46D198F3.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D198F3.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46D199F3.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Friends/ Due To Popular Interest, I've Decided To Continue My Survey Of The Use Of Social Networking Sites By Academic Librarians And Libraries. The Survey has been Re-Opened and Is Available From [ http://onlinesocialnetworks.blogspot.com/2007/08/tobecontinued-survey-of-social.html ] TheSurvey is intended for Those Who Did Not Have An Opportunity To Complete before the August 10th Deadline. BTW: If you had previously completed the Survey, I ask that you do not re-visit. Thanks! ***The Survey Will Remain Open Until Further Notice*** NB: I Will Indeed Post The Survey Results (Through August 10th) [Most Likely After Labo(u)r Day] !!! SPREAD THE WORD !!! Thanks! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com Sun Aug 26 17:12:38 2007 From: rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com (Robert L. Balliot) Date: Sun Aug 26 17:12:46 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: <46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <000001c7e825$d4cd3240$6401a8c0@junior> Greetings, I am sure that there is quite of bit of intersection between these two groups: http://technorati.com/blogs/tag/science 18,442 Science Blogs http://technorati.com/blogs/tag/tech 19,090 Tech Blogs ************************************************* Robert L. Balliot 1-401-441-5763 Skype: RBalliot Bristol, Rhode Island http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm ************************************************* Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 2:07 PM To: BUSLIB-L@LISTS.NAU.EDU; LIBREF-L@LISTSERV.KENT.EDU; web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? SciTech Social Networking Sites? For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social Networks To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature Network* [ http://network.nature.com/ ] I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. Thanks! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 From cbisson at plymouth.edu Sun Aug 26 20:22:59 2007 From: cbisson at plymouth.edu (Casey Bisson) Date: Sun Aug 26 20:23:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: <46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <536D3DA6-6D24-42E9-94B2-BE85D6135356@plymouth.edu> I'd second Robert L. Balliot's suggestion that a successful sci tech- themed blog should be considered a social networking site, and add to that Arxiv.org. http://arxiv.org/ Arxiv may not at first look like a social networking site, but the process of endorsements and the invitation for peer review and discussion (including via trackbacks) give it the necessary features. http://arxiv.org/help/trackback It may not quite be Flickr for the hard sciences, but it's an inspiring example of how academic publishing is changing. Casey Bisson __________________________________________ Information Architect Plymouth State University Plymouth, New Hampshire http://maisonbisson.com/ ph: 603-535-2256 On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Gerry Mckiernan wrote: > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > SciTech Social Networking Sites? > > For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I > am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social > Networks > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites ] > > To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature > Network* > > [ http://network.nature.com/ ] > > [ > http://blogs.nature.com/wp/nascent/2006/06/ > nature_network_boston_launches.html > ] > > I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for > Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. > > ***IntRAnet*** (and Local Efforts) (_as well as_ **IntERnet** Social > Networking Sites (SNSs)) are also of interest. > > BTW-1: Nothing about IntRAnet/ SNSs in The Business Databases > (ABI/Inform; Business and Company ASAP) [?] > > BTW-2: I am aware of LinkedIn [ http://www.linkedin.com/ ] and its > Company Pages > [ http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=company_directory&trk=gfoot_comp > ] > > Thanks! > > /Gerry > > Gerry McKiernan > Science and Technology Librarian > Iowa State University Library > Ames IA 5011 > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From tito_sierra at ncsu.edu Mon Aug 27 09:50:44 2007 From: tito_sierra at ncsu.edu (Tito Sierra) Date: Mon Aug 27 09:50:28 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Opening: Digital Technologies Development Librarian, NCSU Libraries Message-ID: <28D24D35-CB4A-4361-81BC-85129F242936@ncsu.edu> Apologies for any cross-postings. North Carolina State University (NCSU) Libraries is pleased to announce a new position opening for a Digital Technologies Development Librarian. The full announcement and more information is located at: http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/jobs/epa/dtd/dtdva.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES The North Carolina State University Libraries, recognized as the first recipient of the Association of College and Research Libraries? Excellence in Academic Libraries Award, offers a working environment of innovation, teamwork, and continuous interaction with students and faculty to further the educational mission of NC State University. The Libraries invites applications and nominations for the following position: DIGITAL TECHNOLOGIES DEVELOPMENT LIBRARIAN Provides technical leadership and hands on programming expertise for digital library projects. Identifies emerging technologies that have potential for new and improved library services. Develops functional prototypes of new digital library services. Maintains and provides enhancements to existing digital library applications and collaborates closely with Information Technology staff to develop and maintain supporting technology infrastructure. Qualifications include: ALA-accredited MLS or equivalent advanced degree in information science, computer science or related field; two or more years of programming experience in a Unix environment; demonstrated application development experience with one or more open source programming languages; strong SQL and database development skills. Position Number: C-60-0717 Application process and schedule Applications will be reviewed upon receipt and will be accepted until a suitable candidate is identified. Candidates are encouraged to apply as soon as possible to receive full consideration. The nomination committee may invite candidates for confidential, pre- interview screenings. Appointment requires successful completion of background check. For assistance with this process contact NCSU Libraries Personnel Services Office (919) 515-3522. Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer From lars at aronsson.se Mon Aug 27 10:23:57 2007 From: lars at aronsson.se (Lars Aronsson) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:24:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary In-Reply-To: <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> References: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> Message-ID: D.H. Mattison wrote: > Freebase (http://www.freebase.com/signin) [...] During the time > I registered, activated my account, and started putting in some > information, the site appears to have opened itself up to the > whole Internet. I'm hearing all this buzz about Freebase and I've seen they have dumped in information from Wikipedia and MusicBrainz. It's all the traditional hype about "semantic web" and "the future will be wonderful" and "I can find a child-friendly dentist nearby" (can you really?), so the flying cars can't be far away now. In my mind, Wikipedia and MusicBrainz are wonderful, but I don't really understand what Freebase is for. I'd like to hear what kind of information *you* have found useful to input into Freebase. And what practical problems have you run into? Is there no vandalism, no spam, no copyright infringements, no authority/trustworthyness problems, no privacy or harassment problems? And didn't the hype around Google Base die away rather quickly? Wasn't that supposed to be the same thing? Or what's different? Today Google Base looks like an advertising platform for used cars. Was that the intention? Will the same happen to Freebase? -- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se From jessica.hess at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 10:34:05 2007 From: jessica.hess at gmail.com (Jessica Hess) Date: Mon Aug 27 10:34:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary In-Reply-To: References: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> Message-ID: <78b9d8300708270734k66bb93d8oa7411721efb77ef0@mail.gmail.com> Lars, I can't answer your [very good] questions, but I can report that, if it was open a few days ago, that is no longer the case. It appears that you need an invitation to get an account, now. -- Jess On 8/27/07, Lars Aronsson wrote: > D.H. Mattison wrote: > > > Freebase (http://www.freebase.com/signin) [...] During the time > > I registered, activated my account, and started putting in some > > information, the site appears to have opened itself up to the > > whole Internet. > > I'm hearing all this buzz about Freebase and I've seen they have > dumped in information from Wikipedia and MusicBrainz. It's all > the traditional hype about "semantic web" and "the future will be > wonderful" and "I can find a child-friendly dentist nearby" (can > you really?), so the flying cars can't be far away now. > > In my mind, Wikipedia and MusicBrainz are wonderful, but I don't > really understand what Freebase is for. > > I'd like to hear what kind of information *you* have found useful > to input into Freebase. And what practical problems have you run > into? Is there no vandalism, no spam, no copyright infringements, > no authority/trustworthyness problems, no privacy or harassment > problems? > > And didn't the hype around Google Base die away rather quickly? > Wasn't that supposed to be the same thing? Or what's different? > Today Google Base looks like an advertising platform for used > cars. Was that the intention? Will the same happen to Freebase? > > > -- > Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) > Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From mbard at alawash.org Mon Aug 27 11:17:55 2007 From: mbard at alawash.org (Mark A. Bard) Date: Mon Aug 27 11:27:59 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] One Web Day In-Reply-To: <46CEF39A.5050008@leoklein.com> References: <520a6f0c0708231737o6e252e55l644de924473eb6e6@mail.gmail.com> <46CE63F0.4040803@leoklein.com> <46CEF39A.5050008@leoklein.com> Message-ID: <6EEF089FC9523345B836CAACBBD9F2CCFA528D@alaexch01.alawash.internal> Hey All, The organizers of OneWebDay are especially interested in working with libraries this year. This is a perfect opportunity for libraries of all types to highlight their role within communities in the digital age. If you are organizing a OneWebDay event, they would like to hear from you via email at libraryevents@onewebday.org. Cheers, Mark Mark Bard Information Technology Policy Specialist ALA Office for Information Technology Policy -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Leo Robert Klein Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:05 AM To: Richard Wiggins Cc: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] One Web Day You're right, if someone hasn't heard about the web by now, there's little a OneWebDay can do about it. That's not the idea. As I mentioned in an earlier quote: "The essence of OneWebDay is to create a global constituency that thinks of itself as responsible for the future of the internet, so that when negative things happen (censorship, restricted access, heavy-handed law enforcement control) people will act." http://www.onewebday.org/?p=228 Everyone is free to interpret the day as they wish. I admit it's pretty open ended. But as our dependence on the Web, as you point out, becomes increasingly important, so then do issues of access/bandwidth and ownership of the pipes. I'm just not sure how successful a 'OneNetNeutralityDay' or a 'OneStopFilteringInLibrariesDay' would be. So the idea is to take a positive approach to the medium. Reason to celebrate, I say. LEO -- ------------------- www.leoklein.com (site) www.ChicagoLibrarian.com (blog) aim/msn/yhoo/goog: 'leorobertklein' -- ------------------------------- Richard Wiggins wrote: > Not to rain on the parade, but isn't the Web (and the Internet, which > it is distinct from, though not treated as such popularly) now a part > of the fabric of life? It's used for good and for ill by millions if > not billions worldwide. > > To me, in the year 2007, this is almost as quaint as having "One Cell > Phone Day" or "One Fax Machine Day." The Web, at least for anyone who > can read this message, is factored into daily life. > > It is 2007. The Web revolution began in 1993. (TimBL claims earlier > but I date it to the arrival of practical browsers and servers from > NCSA, and images in HTML.) Anyone entering college at age 18 today > literally grew up with the Web. > > The Web is too much a part of our lives in 2007 for a 1996 "Cool Site > of the Day" mentality. The Web is us. ("We are the Web"?) If I were > to participate in a "Day" I'd rather it be a cause -- support your > local library, rising cost of e-journals, climate change, poverty, > disease, peace, even preserving digital legacy. The Web causes many > things to be possible, but it isn't itself a cause. > > /rich _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From EAH0116 at ecu.edu Mon Aug 27 11:48:20 2007 From: EAH0116 at ecu.edu (Hirst, Edward Alan) Date: Mon Aug 27 11:48:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary References: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com><002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> <78b9d8300708270734k66bb93d8oa7411721efb77ef0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <692A06C6C9175146AC226FBF6E5D8FBDD1130D@ecust3.intra.ecu.edu> The email I received stated it was open for public read access, you still need an invite for write access. I have ten invitations, if anyone wants one, just email me. ed Edward Hirst Information Technology Librarian Rowan Public Library http://www.rowanpubliclibrary.org Salisbury, NC -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Jessica Hess Sent: Mon 8/27/2007 10:34 AM To: Lars Aronsson Cc: web4lib Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state,no invitation necessary Lars, I can't answer your [very good] questions, but I can report that, if it was open a few days ago, that is no longer the case. It appears that you need an invitation to get an account, now. -- Jess On 8/27/07, Lars Aronsson wrote: > D.H. Mattison wrote: > > > Freebase (http://www.freebase.com/signin) [...] During the time > > I registered, activated my account, and started putting in some > > information, the site appears to have opened itself up to the > > whole Internet. > > I'm hearing all this buzz about Freebase and I've seen they have > dumped in information from Wikipedia and MusicBrainz. It's all > the traditional hype about "semantic web" and "the future will be > wonderful" and "I can find a child-friendly dentist nearby" (can > you really?), so the flying cars can't be far away now. > > In my mind, Wikipedia and MusicBrainz are wonderful, but I don't > really understand what Freebase is for. > > I'd like to hear what kind of information *you* have found useful > to input into Freebase. And what practical problems have you run > into? Is there no vandalism, no spam, no copyright infringements, > no authority/trustworthyness problems, no privacy or harassment > problems? > > And didn't the hype around Google Base die away rather quickly? > Wasn't that supposed to be the same thing? Or what's different? > Today Google Base looks like an advertising platform for used > cars. Was that the intention? Will the same happen to Freebase? > > > -- > Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) > Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From david.rothman at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 11:57:49 2007 From: david.rothman at gmail.com (David Rothman) Date: Mon Aug 27 11:57:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state, no invitation necessary In-Reply-To: <692A06C6C9175146AC226FBF6E5D8FBDD1130D@ecust3.intra.ecu.edu> References: <46CCA21E.2070501@leoklein.com> <002501c7e549$5e0b9860$6901a8c0@BrainiacXX1> <78b9d8300708270734k66bb93d8oa7411721efb77ef0@mail.gmail.com> <692A06C6C9175146AC226FBF6E5D8FBDD1130D@ecust3.intra.ecu.edu> Message-ID: I also have R/W invitations if anyone wants them. :) On 8/27/07, Hirst, Edward Alan wrote: > > The email I received stated it was open for public read access, you still > need an invite for write access. I have ten invitations, if anyone wants > one, just email me. > > ed > > Edward Hirst > Information Technology Librarian > Rowan Public Library > http://www.rowanpubliclibrary.org > Salisbury, NC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Jessica Hess > Sent: Mon 8/27/2007 10:34 AM > To: Lars Aronsson > Cc: web4lib > Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Freebase appears to be live in its alpha state,no > invitation necessary > > Lars, I can't answer your [very good] questions, but I can report > that, if it was open a few days ago, that is no longer the case. It > appears that you need an invitation to get an account, now. > > -- > Jess > > On 8/27/07, Lars Aronsson wrote: > > D.H. Mattison wrote: > > > > > Freebase (http://www.freebase.com/signin) [...] During the time > > > I registered, activated my account, and started putting in some > > > information, the site appears to have opened itself up to the > > > whole Internet. > > > > I'm hearing all this buzz about Freebase and I've seen they have > > dumped in information from Wikipedia and MusicBrainz. It's all > > the traditional hype about "semantic web" and "the future will be > > wonderful" and "I can find a child-friendly dentist nearby" (can > > you really?), so the flying cars can't be far away now. > > > > In my mind, Wikipedia and MusicBrainz are wonderful, but I don't > > really understand what Freebase is for. > > > > I'd like to hear what kind of information *you* have found useful > > to input into Freebase. And what practical problems have you run > > into? Is there no vandalism, no spam, no copyright infringements, > > no authority/trustworthyness problems, no privacy or harassment > > problems? > > > > And didn't the hype around Google Base die away rather quickly? > > Wasn't that supposed to be the same thing? Or what's different? > > Today Google Base looks like an advertising platform for used > > cars. Was that the intention? Will the same happen to Freebase? > > > > > > -- > > Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) > > Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From julied at lrl.leg.mn Mon Aug 27 12:23:36 2007 From: julied at lrl.leg.mn (julied@lrl.leg.mn) Date: Mon Aug 27 12:36:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 24 Message-ID: I will be out of the library from Monday Aug. 27th until Tuesday Sept. 4th. If you have a reference question, please e-mail refdesk@lrl.leg.mn or call 651-296-8338. From PSchoenberg at EPL.CA Mon Aug 27 12:32:07 2007 From: PSchoenberg at EPL.CA (Peter Schoenberg) Date: Mon Aug 27 12:53:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Selling USB Drives to the public In-Reply-To: <20070827160028.B2318189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20070827160028.B2318189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD5630@TRINITY.epl.ca> For many years public libraries have been selling floppy disks to members of the public in support of their use of library internet / word processing computers. Would appreciate the public library perspective on the following question: Are you now selling USB drives? If yes, What size, format, brand is working for you? Words of advice, warnings, comments also appreciated. Have you stopped selling floppies? I will summarize to the list any off-list replies I get. (One small aside - we got our Facebook application approved late last week, the local newspaper ran a story about it on Saturday. Just seems to be a current topic the media cannot resist) Thanks Peter __________________________________________________ Peter Schoenberg????????????????? (780) 496 1855 Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library ?????????????????????????? www.epl.ca?????? From margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us Mon Aug 27 13:12:37 2007 From: margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us (HAZEL Margaret E) Date: Mon Aug 27 13:16:35 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Selling USB Drives to the public In-Reply-To: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD5630@TRINITY.epl.ca> References: <20070827160028.B2318189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD5630@TRINITY.epl.ca> Message-ID: We started researching vending machines that could handle USBs, floppies, pens, etc., but did not find a ready-made model. We would have had to buy a machine and stock it ourselves, and so research stopped. But we did like the idea of selling USB drives. We are still selling floppies. -Margaret Hazel Eugene Public Library Eugene, OR -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Peter Schoenberg Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:32 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Selling USB Drives to the public For many years public libraries have been selling floppy disks to members of the public in support of their use of library internet / word processing computers. Would appreciate the public library perspective on the following question: Are you now selling USB drives? If yes, What size, format, brand is working for you? Words of advice, warnings, comments also appreciated. Have you stopped selling floppies? I will summarize to the list any off-list replies I get. (One small aside - we got our Facebook application approved late last week, the local newspaper ran a story about it on Saturday. Just seems to be a current topic the media cannot resist) Thanks Peter __________________________________________________ Peter Schoenberg????????????????? (780) 496 1855 Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library ?????????????????????????? www.epl.ca?????? _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From darci.hanning at gmail.com Mon Aug 27 13:40:26 2007 From: darci.hanning at gmail.com (Darci Hanning) Date: Mon Aug 27 13:44:21 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Freebase Invites Message-ID: <7b0067070708271040k7513fac7y3f5c1de47e7be3d2@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, I have ten freebase invites available for the asking -- please email me privately at darci dot hanning at gmail dot com. Cheers! Darci From Elena_OMalley at emerson.edu Mon Aug 27 16:06:05 2007 From: Elena_OMalley at emerson.edu (Elena OMalley) Date: Mon Aug 27 16:06:09 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Book digitization In-Reply-To: <000301c7e676$f222e110$7b00a8c0@anders30b85ebf> References: <000301c7e676$f222e110$7b00a8c0@anders30b85ebf> Message-ID: <20EBF4F2D8307E4EAF71464CBE0055940432B7A7@HAIL.emerson.edu> Maybe the Open Content Alliance http://www.opencontentalliance.org/ or the Open-Access Text Archive http://www.archive.org/details/texts has some writeups that cover the technical details? Regards, Elena O'Malley, Assistant Director for Technology and Access Services Emerson College Library, Boston, MA 02116 -----Original Message----- From: Anders Ericson [mailto:anders.ericson@norskbibliotekforening.no] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 1:48 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Book digitization I'm looking for up to date information on rather large scale book digitization (Google Book Search, Library of Congress but even smaller, but not flatbed scanning of a handful titles per year) and a comparison of software, user interfaces etc. Anders Ericson From Karen.VanGodtsenhoven at UGent.be Tue Aug 28 05:40:19 2007 From: Karen.VanGodtsenhoven at UGent.be (Karen Van Godtsenhoven) Date: Tue Aug 28 05:40:28 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social utility sites Message-ID: <4D18163A3B5C4649A5BC4E3B087515A50C9F29@xchange4.UGent.be> Dear all, Positive positions towards Facebook as a social utility worry me a bit. Has anyone read the following article on the collaboration of Facebook with intelligence services? http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t349 49.html I realize it's the user's choice whether or not to share his/her personal info, but I think people should be made 'as aware as possible' of the consequences of 'joining up'. Or am I being paranoid? Thanks for sharing your opinion on this. Karen Van Godtsenhoven From maxlibris at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 09:23:50 2007 From: maxlibris at gmail.com (Max Anderson) Date: Tue Aug 28 09:23:59 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Upcoming Classes: Learn about ERM Systems, Blogs, Cataloging and more Message-ID: <520a6f0c0708280623u26f33da5kaafab040545660d6@mail.gmail.com> Please excuse Cross Postings Click on the title of a class to learn more... Managing Copyright Issues(Self-Paced) Date/Time: 9/24/2007- 11/16/2007 (self-paced) Digital Content Management: Compliance in the Digital Age(Self-Paced) Date/Time: 9/24/2007 - 11/16/2007 (self-paced) Serial Holdings(Face-to-Face, SOLINET Offices) Date/Time: 9/24/2007 - 9/25/2007 (Day 1: 9:00 am - 4:00 pm | Day 2: 9:00 am - 12:00pm) Advanced Local Holdings Maintenance(Live Online) Date/Time: 9/24/2007 - 9/25/200, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm (two hours each day) General Cataloging Principles & Practices(Face-to-Face, Wesleyan College) Date/Time: 9/25/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm Promoting Library Services Using Blogs and RSS(Face-to-Face, Mississippi Library Commission) Date/Time: 9/25/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm **Earn CEUs for this class!** Practical Approaches to Information Literacy(Live Online) Date/Time: 9/25/2007 - 9/27/2007, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm (two hours each day) Interpreting the MARC Record(Face-to-Face, Wesleyan College) Date/Time: 9/26/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm What's Next? Planning for Tomorrow's Technology Trends in Libraries(Face-to-Face, SOLINET Offices) Date/Time: 9/26/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm Xtreme Web Searching(Face-to-Face, SOLINET Offices) Date/Time: 9/27/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm Basic MARC Tagging for Serials(Live Online) Date/Time: 9/27/2007 - 9/28/2007, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm (two hours each day) ERM Systems: An Introduction(Live Online) Date/Time: 9/28/2007, 10:00 am - 12:00 pm Podcasting for Libraries(Live Online) Date/Time: 9/28/2007, 2:00 pm - 4:00 pm Hope to see you there! Max -- "Dewey, you fool! Your decimal system has played right into our hands!" --Large floating brain (without hands), Futurama, "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid" From maxlibris at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 10:25:15 2007 From: maxlibris at gmail.com (Max Anderson) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:25:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Correction: What's Next Planning for Tomorrow's Technology Trends in Libraries Message-ID: <520a6f0c0708280725o7f3cf936pcb38d2438040826f@mail.gmail.com> Corrected URL, thanks Karen! What's Next? Planning for Tomorrow's Technology Trends in Libraries(Face-to-Face, SOLINET Offices) Date/Time: 9/26/2007, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm Thanks Max -- "Dewey, you fool! Your decimal system has played right into our hands!" --Large floating brain (without hands), Futurama, "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid" From brown at hcplonline.info Tue Aug 28 10:29:11 2007 From: brown at hcplonline.info (Brown, Irmgarde) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:29:17 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Pounce invites... ? Message-ID: Ok. If we're passing around invites... has anyone got one for Pounce? http://www.pownce.com/ Just curious... Irmgarde Brown HCPL Web Services Manager 1221-A Brass Mill Road Belcamp, MD 21017 410.273-5600 x2274 brown@hcplonline.info From kayiwa at uic.edu Tue Aug 28 10:32:02 2007 From: kayiwa at uic.edu (Francis Kayiwa) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:35:24 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Pounce invites... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D431E2.2050408@uic.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brown, Irmgarde wrote: > Ok. > If we're passing around invites... has anyone got one for Pounce? > > http://www.pownce.com/ Sent it to your account. ./fxk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG1DHgN+YGKSXdLhkRAmCHAJsEPyHULeAipjAnm3G5Pyp14j6ggACfXrj3 T8SMy0HYfnn8puo/9KHrE0Y= =FomK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From marc at springshare.com Tue Aug 28 10:53:15 2007 From: marc at springshare.com (Marc Bertone) Date: Tue Aug 28 10:53:24 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Pounce invites... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01c7e983$2a580e70$0a00a8c0@singlewall> I have five, and will be happy to hand them out to the first people to contact me via email at marc@springshare.com. -Marc http://springshare.com -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Brown, Irmgarde Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:29 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Pounce invites... ? Ok. If we're passing around invites... has anyone got one for Pounce? http://www.pownce.com/ Just curious... Irmgarde Brown HCPL Web Services Manager 1221-A Brass Mill Road Belcamp, MD 21017 410.273-5600 x2274 brown@hcplonline.info _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From schwartz at mnstate.edu Tue Aug 28 11:06:55 2007 From: schwartz at mnstate.edu (Larry Schwartz) Date: Tue Aug 28 11:07:00 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Re: Social utility sites In-Reply-To: <4D18163A3B5C4649A5BC4E3B087515A50C9F29@xchange4.UGent.be> References: <4D18163A3B5C4649A5BC4E3B087515A50C9F29@xchange4.UGent.be> Message-ID: <46D43A0F.50809@mnstate.edu> Karen Van Godtsenhoven wrote: > Dear all, > > Positive positions towards Facebook as a social utility worry me a bit. > Has anyone read the following article on the collaboration of Facebook > with intelligence services? > > http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t349 > 49.html > > I realize it's the user's choice whether or not to share his/her > personal info, but I think people should be made 'as aware as possible' > of the consequences of 'joining up'. > > Or am I being paranoid? > > Thanks for sharing your opinion on this. > I took a look at the Facebook privacy policy. Though I can't speak to the connections between Facebook and the agencies and individuals mentioned in the link, I did note that the quote below from the Common Ground blog does not match Facebook's current privacy policy: "Some of the aspects of the privacy policy are downright creepy and confusing. This particular gem is especially disturbing: "Thefacebook also collects information about you from other sources, such as newspapers and instant messaging services. This information is gathered regardless of your use of the Web Site." And there's no telling when the privacy policy may change. As of when this was written (July 1, 2005), the policy was effective as of June 28, 2005." Current policy: "Facebook may also collect information about you from other sources, such as newspapers, blogs, instant messaging services, and other users of the Facebook service through the operation of the service (e.g., photo tags) in order to provide you with more useful information and a more personalized experience." "Who knows where the information they collect about these three million college students, alumni, and professors is going, or what they intend to do with it." Indeed, who knows? -- Larry Schwartz, Collection Management Librarian Livingston Lord Library Minnesota State University Moorhead 1104 7th Ave., S. Moorhead, MN 56563 (218) 477-2353 (vox) (218) 477-5924 (fax) http://www.mnstate.edu/schwartz http://www.myspace.com/msumlarry "People read books in order to gain the privilege of living more than one life." --Garrison Keillor Directory of Open Access Journals: http://www.doaj.org From tspindle at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 12:22:39 2007 From: tspindle at gmail.com (Tim Spindle) Date: Tue Aug 28 12:22:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] re: pounce invites Message-ID: I also have 5 Pounce invites. Reply to this email to receive one. Tim From bkozlowski at sals.edu Tue Aug 28 12:21:48 2007 From: bkozlowski at sals.edu (Kozlowski,Brendon) Date: Tue Aug 28 12:27:55 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Selling USB Drives to the public References: <20070828160033.CFE82189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: We've decided to stop selling floppy disks and have also purchased new computers to replace our slightly out-dated models, in doing so we've completely removed support for floppy disks (sans a USB floppy drive or two at the clerk's desk). Due to continued problems with CDs (people think that dragging and dropping files to the CD will always work, or wonder why they can't add more later, etc...) we always strongly suggest patrons purchase a USB "thumb" drive (memory stick). We sell basically at-cost for whatever the best prices we find at any given time that we need to resupply our stock. Typical sites we look for sales on are edealinfo.com, newegg, pricewatch.com, and pricegrabber.com. We factor in the price of shipping to the cost of the drives and average it out. All in all, we end up selling 512MB - 1GB drives depending on sale prices and they usually run for about $11 each for patrons. Brendon Kozlowski Web Administrator Saratoga Springs Public Library 49 Henry Street Saratoga Springs, NY, 12866 [518] 584-7860 x217 From NeffJ at jocolibrary.org Tue Aug 28 12:44:26 2007 From: NeffJ at jocolibrary.org (Neff, Joshua, JCL) Date: Tue Aug 28 12:46:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] re: pounce invites In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have 8 Pownce invites and I'm not using the site at all. If anyone wants an invite, email me back with your email address. Don't bother friending me, though, since as I said, I'm not using the site (having found no real use for it). --Joshua M. Neff Web Content Developer Johnson County Library (913)495-2449 neffj@jocolibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Tim Spindle Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:23 AM To: brown@hcplonline.info Cc: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] re: pounce invites I also have 5 Pounce invites. Reply to this email to receive one. Tim _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From robin.hastings at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 13:25:20 2007 From: robin.hastings at gmail.com (Robin Hastings) Date: Tue Aug 28 13:29:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Selling USB Drives to the public In-Reply-To: <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD5630@TRINITY.epl.ca> References: <20070827160028.B2318189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> <497AD7CB28DA1245BD7D44D5F1ECB5D703AD5630@TRINITY.epl.ca> Message-ID: On 8/27/07, Peter Schoenberg wrote: > Are you now selling USB drives? > > If yes, > What size, format, brand is working for you? > > Words of advice, warnings, comments also appreciated. > > Have you stopped selling floppies? > We are selling (sort of) 128MB USB drives that are all pretty with our logo on them and everything. Unfortunately, we are selling them for $15... At the time we ordered them, that was pretty reasonable. Now it's not. On the plus side, we have some really great prizes and promotional items! We are also still selling floppies - but we don't have floppy drives on any of our computers now - we also do the USB floppy drive behind the counter bit, as someone menitioned earlier. We sell CDs too, but we encourage folks to use USB drives - it's just easier to manage them, and easier for people to wrap their brains around the USB drive concept. > Thanks > Peter > __________________________________________________ > Peter Schoenberg (780) 496 1855 > Manager - eServices - Edmonton Public Library > www.epl.ca > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Robin Hastings robin.hastings@gmail.com http://www.rhastings.net From margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us Tue Aug 28 14:07:01 2007 From: margaret.e.hazel at ci.eugene.or.us (HAZEL Margaret E) Date: Tue Aug 28 14:07:35 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Selling USB Drives to the public In-Reply-To: References: <20070828160033.CFE82189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: Do you give a disclaimer as to whether they will work with your computers or not? -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Kozlowski,Brendon Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:22 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Selling USB Drives to the public We've decided to stop selling floppy disks and have also purchased new computers to replace our slightly out-dated models, in doing so we've completely removed support for floppy disks (sans a USB floppy drive or two at the clerk's desk). Due to continued problems with CDs (people think that dragging and dropping files to the CD will always work, or wonder why they can't add more later, etc...) we always strongly suggest patrons purchase a USB "thumb" drive (memory stick). We sell basically at-cost for whatever the best prices we find at any given time that we need to resupply our stock. Typical sites we look for sales on are edealinfo.com, newegg, pricewatch.com, and pricegrabber.com. We factor in the price of shipping to the cost of the drives and average it out. All in all, we end up selling 512MB - 1GB drives depending on sale prices and they usually run for about $11 each for patrons. Brendon Kozlowski Web Administrator Saratoga Springs Public Library 49 Henry Street Saratoga Springs, NY, 12866 [518] 584-7860 x217 From bonnie.swoger at gmail.com Tue Aug 28 14:36:25 2007 From: bonnie.swoger at gmail.com (Bonnie Swoger) Date: Tue Aug 28 14:36:31 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: <536D3DA6-6D24-42E9-94B2-BE85D6135356@plymouth.edu> References: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <536D3DA6-6D24-42E9-94B2-BE85D6135356@plymouth.edu> Message-ID: <22be023f0708281136q6e37ab03p7b914f7ef851e67b@mail.gmail.com> Are you aware of Connotea ? This works a lot like del.icio.us, but with some additional features for scientists (recognizing additional metadata for stored links), and a focus on the scientific community (it is associated with Nature Publishing Group). You can create groups, and see what other people are tagging. -Bonnie Swoger SUNY Geneseo > On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Gerry Mckiernan wrote: > > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > > > SciTech Social Networking Sites? > > > > For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I > > am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social > > Networks > > > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites ] > > > > To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature > > Network* > > > > [ http://network.nature.com/ ] > > > > [ > > http://blogs.nature.com/wp/nascent/2006/06/ > > nature_network_boston_launches.html > > ] > > > > I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for > > Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. > > > > ***IntRAnet*** (and Local Efforts) (_as well as_ **IntERnet** Social > > Networking Sites (SNSs)) are also of interest. > > > > BTW-1: Nothing about IntRAnet/ SNSs in The Business Databases > > (ABI/Inform; Business and Company ASAP) [?] > > > > BTW-2: I am aware of LinkedIn [ http://www.linkedin.com/ ] and its > > Company Pages > > [ http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=company_directory&trk=gfoot_comp > > ] > > > > Thanks! > > > > /Gerry > > > > Gerry McKiernan > > Science and Technology Librarian > > Iowa State University Library > > Ames IA 5011 > > > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > From rboulton at stcharleslibrary.org Tue Aug 28 15:30:14 2007 From: rboulton at stcharleslibrary.org (Robin) Date: Tue Aug 28 15:30:21 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: <22be023f0708281136q6e37ab03p7b914f7ef851e67b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><536D3DA6-6D24-42E9-94B2-BE85D6135356@plymouth.edu> <22be023f0708281136q6e37ab03p7b914f7ef851e67b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD2396@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> I'm reproducing here the text of a recent; posting on Web4Lib: " I'd second Robert L. Balliot's suggestion that a successful sci tech- themed blog should be considered a social networking site, and add to that Arxiv.org. http://arxiv.org/ Arxiv may not at first look like a social networking site, but the process of endorsements and the invitation for peer review and discussion (including via trackbacks) give it the necessary features. http://arxiv.org/help/trackback It may not quite be Flickr for the hard sciences, but it's an inspiring example of how academic publishing is changing. Casey Bisson _______________________________________" -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Swoger Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:36 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? Are you aware of Connotea ? This works a lot like del.icio.us, but with some additional features for scientists (recognizing additional metadata for stored links), and a focus on the scientific community (it is associated with Nature Publishing Group). You can create groups, and see what other people are tagging. -Bonnie Swoger SUNY Geneseo > On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Gerry Mckiernan wrote: > > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > > > SciTech Social Networking Sites? > > > > For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I > > am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social > > Networks > > > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites ] > > > > To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature > > Network* > > > > [ http://network.nature.com/ ] > > > > [ > > http://blogs.nature.com/wp/nascent/2006/06/ > > nature_network_boston_launches.html > > ] > > > > I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for > > Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. > > > > ***IntRAnet*** (and Local Efforts) (_as well as_ **IntERnet** Social > > Networking Sites (SNSs)) are also of interest. > > > > BTW-1: Nothing about IntRAnet/ SNSs in The Business Databases > > (ABI/Inform; Business and Company ASAP) [?] > > > > BTW-2: I am aware of LinkedIn [ http://www.linkedin.com/ ] and its > > Company Pages > > [ http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=company_directory&trk=gfoot_comp > > ] > > > > Thanks! > > > > /Gerry > > > > Gerry McKiernan > > Science and Technology Librarian > > Iowa State University Library > > Ames IA 5011 > > > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From chutchens at montana.edu Tue Aug 28 15:57:27 2007 From: chutchens at montana.edu (Hutchens, Chad) Date: Tue Aug 28 15:56:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD2396@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> References: <46D17ABE.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D17AF0.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><536D3DA6-6D24-42E9-94B2-BE85D6135356@plymouth.edu><22be023f0708281136q6e37ab03p7b914f7ef851e67b@mail.gmail.com> <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD2396@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> Message-ID: Add the Public Library of Science (PLoS), and Public Library of Science One (PLoSOne...in beta) to the list as well. PLoSOne is actually quite interesting. www.plos.org www.plosone.org Chad E. Hutchens Electronic Resources Librarian Montana State University Libraries P.O. Box 173320 Bozeman, MT 59717-3320 (406) 994-4313 phone (406) 994-2851 fax chutchens@montana.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:30 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? I'm reproducing here the text of a recent; posting on Web4Lib: " I'd second Robert L. Balliot's suggestion that a successful sci tech- themed blog should be considered a social networking site, and add to that Arxiv.org. http://arxiv.org/ Arxiv may not at first look like a social networking site, but the process of endorsements and the invitation for peer review and discussion (including via trackbacks) give it the necessary features. http://arxiv.org/help/trackback It may not quite be Flickr for the hard sciences, but it's an inspiring example of how academic publishing is changing. Casey Bisson _______________________________________" -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Swoger Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:36 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? Are you aware of Connotea ? This works a lot like del.icio.us, but with some additional features for scientists (recognizing additional metadata for stored links), and a focus on the scientific community (it is associated with Nature Publishing Group). You can create groups, and see what other people are tagging. -Bonnie Swoger SUNY Geneseo > On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Gerry Mckiernan wrote: > > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > > > SciTech Social Networking Sites? > > > > For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I > > am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social > > Networks > > > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites ] > > > > To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature > > Network* > > > > [ http://network.nature.com/ ] > > > > [ > > http://blogs.nature.com/wp/nascent/2006/06/ > > nature_network_boston_launches.html > > ] > > > > I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for > > Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. > > > > ***IntRAnet*** (and Local Efforts) (_as well as_ **IntERnet** Social > > Networking Sites (SNSs)) are also of interest. > > > > BTW-1: Nothing about IntRAnet/ SNSs in The Business Databases > > (ABI/Inform; Business and Company ASAP) [?] > > > > BTW-2: I am aware of LinkedIn [ http://www.linkedin.com/ ] and its > > Company Pages > > [ http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=company_directory&trk=gfoot_comp > > ] > > > > Thanks! > > > > /Gerry > > > > Gerry McKiernan > > Science and Technology Librarian > > Iowa State University Library > > Ames IA 5011 > > > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From gerrymck at iastate.edu Tue Aug 28 15:55:59 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Tue Aug 28 15:56:30 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] _Marketing to the Social Web: How Digital Customer Communities Build Your Business_ In-Reply-To: <46D436F7.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D43668.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D436F7.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46D4377F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ****APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS**** Colleagues/ New Book OF Potential Interest _Marketing to the Social Web: How Digital Customer Communities Build Your Business_ by Larry Webber [John Wiley & Sons, 2007 | ISBN: 978-0-470-12417-8 | 230 p. | $ 24.95] Today, marketing is exploding with possibilities and complexities as it reaches out into new forms, media, and models. Marketers have an exceptional opportunity to use these new tools and models to reach new markets, even in a fragmented media market. Marketing to the Social Web helps marketers and their companies understand the context of the new marketing, and prioritize what they need to do to build customer communities and maximize profit in a time of marketing confusion. Larry Weber presents specific ideas to find and engage customers, describes newly available tools and platforms, and shows readers how to apply them to see immediate results. [ http://onlinesocialnetworks.blogspot.com/2007/08/marketing-to-social-web-how-digital.html ] TABLE OF CONTENTS PREFACE. ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. PART I: PANDEMONIUM: THE LANDSCAPE OF THE SOCIAL WEB. Chapter 1. The Web Is Not a Channel (And You're an Aggregator, Not a Broadcaster). Chapter 2. Community and Content: The Marketer's New Job (Or How to Cut Your Marketing Budget and Reach More People). Chapter 3. Making the Transition to the Social Web (First Change Your Marketing Mindset). Chapter 4. How to Let Customers Say What They Really Think (And Keep Your Job). PART II: SEVEN STEPS TO BUILD YOUR OWN CUSTOMER COMMUNITY. Chapter 5. Step One: Observe and Create a Customer Map (Otherwise, You Can't Get There from Here). Chapter 6. Step Two: Recruit Community Members (With a New Toolbox and Your Own Marketing Skills). Chapter 7. Step Three: Evaluate Online Conduit Strategies (And Don't Forget Search). Chapter 8. Step Four: Engage Communities in Conversation (To Generate Word of Mouse). Chapter 9. Step Five: Measure the Community's Involvement (Who, What, Where, When, Why, and How). Chapter 10. Step Six: Promote Your Community to the World (Get 'Em Talking and Clicking). Chapter 11. Step Seven: Improve the Community's Benefits (Don't Just Set It and Forget It). PART III: MAKING USE OF THE FOUR ONLINE CONDUIT STRATEGIES. Chapter 12. The Reputation Aggregator Strategy (We're Number One!) Chapter 13. The Blog Strategy (Everybody's Talking at Me). Chapter 14. The E-Community Strategy (Go to Their Party or Throw Your Own). Chapter 15. The Social Networks Strategy (Connecting with a Click). Chapter 16. Living and Working in Web 4.0 (It's Right Around the Corner). NOTES. INDEX. SAMPLE TEXT INDEX TEXT /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From hannont at ohsu.edu Tue Aug 28 16:44:59 2007 From: hannont at ohsu.edu (Todd Hannon) Date: Tue Aug 28 16:45:21 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Online Northwest 2008 Call for Proposals Message-ID: PROPOSAL SUBMISSION DEADLINE: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 WHAT IS ONLINE NORTHWEST? Online Northwest is a one-day conference focusing on topics at the intersection of libraries, technology and culture. The conference is sponsored by the Oregon University System Library Council. WHEN IS THE CONFERENCE? Friday, February 22, 2008 WHAT TOPICS ARE APPROPRIATE? The coordinating committee seeks presentations that discuss how technology is being applied within library settings and how technology is affecting library patrons and services. We strongly encourage academic, public, school, and special librarians to submit proposals. All topics relating to technology and libraries are welcome, including: *Assessing the impact of technology on patrons or services *User interface design and evaluation *Implementation of Web 2.0 technologies in libraries *Collection development and assessment *Resource sharing (e.g. ILL, document delivery) *Information literacy and instruction *Metadata design, application, or evaluation *Management of electronic resources or digital repositories *Computer programming and development of computer applications to support delivery of library services HOW DO I SUBMIT A PROPOSAL? Please submit a 150-250 word abstract describing the presentation content and intended audience via the online submission form available at: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=328653886834 For examples of past presentations or more information, see: http://www.ous.edu/onlinenw/ WHERE IS THE CONFERENCE? CH2M Hill Alumni Center, Corvallis, Oregon (on the Oregon State University campus) Todd Hannon, MLS Reference & Instruction Librarian Oregon Health & Science University Library Research & Reference Dept. PO Box 573 Portland, OR 97207-0573 p:503.494.3474 f:503.494.3322 hannont@ohsu.edu From gemstonelogan at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 11:14:41 2007 From: gemstonelogan at gmail.com (Gem Stone-Logan) Date: Wed Aug 29 11:14:47 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions Message-ID: My manager is looking for opinions from organizations that are either moving toward or away from thin clients. We are specifically looking at using them for our public patron computers. We've completed an evaluation for our district but would like to know what other libraries are doing. If you wouldn't mind discussing this subject with her, send me an email and I'll forward it. Thanks, Gem Stone-Logan Weld Library District http://www.mylibrary.us/ gemstonelogan@gmail.com From infoscience1 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 12:05:46 2007 From: infoscience1 at gmail.com (Raumin "Ray" Dehghan) Date: Wed Aug 29 12:23:25 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Message-ID: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan From julied at lrl.leg.mn Wed Aug 29 12:16:38 2007 From: julied at lrl.leg.mn (julied@lrl.leg.mn) Date: Wed Aug 29 12:24:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 26 Message-ID: I will be out of the library from Monday Aug. 27th until Tuesday Sept. 4th. If you have a reference question, please e-mail refdesk@lrl.leg.mn or call 651-296-8338. From fostersm1 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 12:51:44 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:11:47 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c5c30910708290951j570c2bb9je45b80c27bd7c5f5@mail.gmail.com> I always find good introductory material at w3schools.com: http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp On 8/29/07, Raumin Ray Dehghan wrote: > Colleagues, > > I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to > any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in > javascript. > > Thanks > Raumin "Ray" Dehghan > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com Wed Aug 29 12:56:10 2007 From: rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com (Robert L. Balliot) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:12:10 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c7ea5d$80118b40$6401a8c0@junior> http://javaranch.com http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ ************************************************* Robert L. Balliot 1-401-441-5763 Skype: RBalliot Bristol, Rhode Island http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm ************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:06 PM To: web4lib; css Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From jml4n at virginia.edu Wed Aug 29 13:06:46 2007 From: jml4n at virginia.edu (John Loy) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:21:12 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3CDDC513-EA78-4F06-A418-598EEB334137@virginia.edu> If you've done any programming before, try running through Amy Hoy's Javascript boot camp slide presentation . It covers the most important points about the language. Also check out the book "Simply Javascript" by Kevin Yank and Cameron Adams. -- John Loy Web Designer, University of Virginia Library ph: (434) 924-7099, fax: (434) 924-1431 552 Alderman Library http://lib.virginia.edu On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan wrote: > Colleagues, > > I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate > links to > any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a > beginner in > javascript. > > Thanks > Raumin "Ray" Dehghan > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From MemoCordova at boisestate.edu Wed Aug 29 13:07:37 2007 From: MemoCordova at boisestate.edu (Memo Cordova) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:22:29 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D55378.1AED.006C.0@boisestate.edu> I've always been a fan of the website HTML Goodies: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/jsp/ Simple and sometimes funny "Primers" on various topics that are easy to understand and come loaded with examples. Memo Memo Cordova Reference/Instruction Librarian Albertsons Library Boise State University 1910 University Drive Boise, ID 83725 (208) 426-1270 memocordova@boisestate.edu http://library.boisestate.edu/ Yahoo IM: freerangelibrarian >>> "Raumin "Ray" Dehghan" 8/29/2007 10:05 AM >>> Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From jtgorman at uiuc.edu Wed Aug 29 13:17:09 2007 From: jtgorman at uiuc.edu (Jonathan Gorman) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:51:42 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Message-ID: <20070829121709.AWH64561@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu> ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:05:46 -0500 >From: "Raumin "Ray" Dehghan" >Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript >To: web4lib , css > > I would appreciate links to > any websites that explain javascript well, especially > for a beginner in > javascript. > Way, way back in the lost mists of time I remember liking http://www.webmonkey.com. The website last I heard was supposed to be taken down, but apparently hasn't been. I don't think it's being updated though. More recently I've grown fond of http://www.quirksmode.org/. The author of the site recently redesigned it for the release of his book, but I'm not a fan of the redesign. It seems much harder to navigate, but it still has some of the best resources on javascript that I've seen in a while. Jon Gorman Research Information Specialist University of Illinois From GRIESNER at ccbcmd.edu Wed Aug 29 13:20:04 2007 From: GRIESNER at ccbcmd.edu (Riesner, Giles) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:51:44 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <32AA4C7763CB33479AF73581514D57EB02778846@cwe.ccbc.ccbcmd.edu> Another resource you might consider is the group comp.lang.javascript Go to http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/topics There currently is an unanswered request from early this AM for a good js tutorial there. I had a Javascript file I was trying to modify a couple years back and posted it there and got help from a few folks the same day. Giles W. Riesner Jr. Library Tech Support / Library System Manager Community College of Balto. Co. - Catonsville 800 S. Rolling Rd., Baltimore MD 21228? USA Tel/V-Mail 1-410-455-4245 Fax????????? 1-410-455-6106 Email:?????? griesner@ccbcmd.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:06 PM To: web4lib; css Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From gilbertj at cliu.org Wed Aug 29 14:24:21 2007 From: gilbertj at cliu.org (James M. Gilbert) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:52:04 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c7ea69$d1df3380$40351dac@library.whitehallpl.org> Site has numerous language tutorials, link is to javascripting http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp James M. Gilbert Systems Librarian Whitehall Township Public Library 3700 Mechanicsville Road Whitehall, PA 18052 610-432-4339 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:06 AM To: web4lib; css Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us Wed Aug 29 13:41:38 2007 From: Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us (Bret Parker) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:55:47 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46D54CF4.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> Untested, but perhaps of interest: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Basic_JavaScript http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Web_Design/An_Introduction_to_Programming_with_Javascript If anyone can recommend either of these, please offer your comments to the list. Thanks. Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton-San Joaquin County Public Library 605 N. El Dorado St Stockton, CA 95202 bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us (209) 937-7148 http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us Stockton Reads! >>> "Raumin "Ray" Dehghan" 8/29/2007 9:05 AM >>> Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From jtgorman at uiuc.edu Wed Aug 29 13:44:57 2007 From: jtgorman at uiuc.edu (Jonathan Gorman) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:55:58 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Message-ID: <20070829124457.AWH68888@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu> ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:56:10 -0400 >From: "Robert L. Balliot" >Subject: RE: [Web4lib] understanding javascript >To: "'Raumin "Ray" Dehghan'" , "'web4lib'" , "'css'" > >http://javaranch.com > >http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ > > The question was about javascript resources, not Java ;). Jon Gorman University of Illinois From Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us Wed Aug 29 13:47:48 2007 From: Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us (Bret Parker) Date: Wed Aug 29 13:56:00 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <000001c7ea5d$80118b40$6401a8c0@junior> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> <000001c7ea5d$80118b40$6401a8c0@junior> Message-ID: <46D54E67.9C90.0010.0@ci.stockton.ca.us> The links you sent below are the wrong path to learning Javascript; they are for the Java language which is unrelated to Javascript. ECMA is another search string you might throw at Google. Bret Parker, Senior Applications Programmer Analyst (MLIS) Stockton-San Joaquin County Public Library 605 N. El Dorado St Stockton, CA 95202 bret.parker@ci.stockton.ca.us (209) 937-7148 http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us Stockton Reads! >>> "Robert L. Balliot" 8/29/2007 9:56 AM >>> http://javaranch.com http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ ************************************************* Robert L. Balliot 1-401-441-5763 Skype: RBalliot Bristol, Rhode Island http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm ************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:06 PM To: web4lib; css Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript Colleagues, I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in javascript. Thanks Raumin "Ray" Dehghan _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From wkurt at bbn.com Wed Aug 29 14:02:01 2007 From: wkurt at bbn.com (Will Kurt) Date: Wed Aug 29 14:24:40 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <000001c7ea5d$80118b40$6401a8c0@junior> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> <000001c7ea5d$80118b40$6401a8c0@junior> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20070829133804.05df8840@bbn.com> At 12:56 PM 8/29/2007, Robert L. Balliot wrote: >http://javaranch.com > >http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ These are both Java resources, I'm sure someone will likely beat me to it but... JAVA != JavaScript the only connection the 2 languages have is based almost solely on marketing. JavaScript is an interpreted scripting language which is officially named 'ECMAScript' and also developed under Netscape as 'LiveScript'. Netscape briefly partnered with Sun and they renamed it JavaScript purely for marketing purposes. Java is a compiled programming language which is syntactically much more like C++ than Javascript. Learning Java is nothing like learning JavaScript, and the 2 are almost never used for the same type of development work. Most of the Java you'll see on the web is server side ( .jsp is the JavaServer Page extension), all of the JavaScript work you'd do on the web will be used for client side scripting. Java- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_%28programming_language%29 JavaScript- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript I hope I don't come across as snarky, but I did want to clear that up as it can lead to a lot of confusion. --Will >************************************************* >Robert L. Balliot >1-401-441-5763 >Skype: RBalliot >Bristol, Rhode Island >http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm >************************************************* > >-----Original Message----- >From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org >[mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:06 PM >To: web4lib; css >Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript > >Colleagues, > >I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to >any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in >javascript. > >Thanks >Raumin "Ray" Dehghan >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From eden at library.ucsb.edu Wed Aug 29 14:16:31 2007 From: eden at library.ucsb.edu (Brad Eden) Date: Wed Aug 29 14:24:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job announcement: Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services In-Reply-To: <4533E4B1.400@library.ucsb.edu> References: <4533E4B1.400@library.ucsb.edu> Message-ID: <46D5B7FF.9090100@library.ucsb.edu> Please forward to appropriate listservs *HEAD OF CATALOGING AND METADATA SERVICES* The University of California, Santa Barbara, one of the ten campuses of the University of California, seeks an innovative, team-oriented and energetic leader as Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services. *RESPONSIBILITIES: *Reporting to the AUL for Technical Services and Scholarly Communication, the Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services has overall responsibility for providing innovative leadership, vision, enthusiasm, and supervision for cataloging and metadata services. The Department has a staff of some 26 FTE and many student assistants. Departmental services include cataloging processes involving monographic resources in all formats, authority control, database integration and maintenance, electronic resource support, special projects, technical processing of government publications, and digital initiatives, including those of the California Digital Library. The incumbent is responsible for establishing policies and procedures within the context of national standards, goal setting, designing and monitoring workflow, adopting and implementing new technologies, and for ongoing evaluation of services for the Department. Supervises, trains, and evaluates staff in cataloging and metadata services. S/he works cooperatively with other department heads, and is responsive to the needs of public services in providing user centered bibliographic services. As appropriate, the incumbent participates on library committees, serves on UC system wide committees and task forces, and represents the library in local, regional, and national associations. *QUALIFICATIONS: *Required - MLS from an ALA-accredited institution. Demonstrated knowledge and recent experience with provision of cataloging services, including those related to digital initiatives. Demonstrated leadership and increasingly responsible supervisory and management experience. Experience using a bibliographic utility in an integrated library system, preferably OCLC, and ExLibris. Familiarity and knowledge of various metadata formats, such as Dublin Core, EAD, METS, MODS, OAI, XML, etc. Knowledge of electronic and traditional cataloging as well as current standards, trends, and emerging technologies in cataloging services, including those related to digital libraries. Ability to manage multiple responsibilities in a dynamic and changing environment. Excellent oral, written, and interpersonal communication skills. Commitment to diversity and staff team development. Preferred - Experience using the ExLibris Aleph online system; experience with web technology, and various report generating and management software products. *ENVIRONMENT:* The UCSB libraries are committed to the pursuit of excellence, diversity, innovation, and collaboration. The libraries are active partners and full participants in the educational journey of discovery that centers on research, scholarship, creativity, and a dynamically evolving teaching and learning environment. Among the most prestigious research libraries in the country, the library collections include over two million volumes, digitized collections, government documents, sophisticated electronic resources, and numerous Special Collections. The libraries memberships include ARL, CRL, CLIR, and SPARC. The libraries are also active participants in the California Digital Library. Central to the campus skyline as well as to its mission, the UCSB libraries takes pride in providing outstanding service to all its clientele. UC, Santa Barbara occupies a picturesque 989-acre palm and eucalyptus lined plateau overlooking the Pacific Ocean. UCSB joined the University of California system in 1944. The University of California is widely recognized as the preeminent public university system in the world. UCSB is ranked as a category 1-research university by the Carnegie Commission, and is an elected member of the Association of American Universities. Offering a full range of undergraduate and graduate degrees, the campus serves some 18,000 students and has over 900 full time faculty, including members of leading academic societies as well as fellows and winners of national academic honors and Nobel Prize Laureates. /US News & World Reports/ guide to ?America?s Best Colleges? ranks UCSB as one of the best public universities in the nation. *SALARY AND BENEFITS:* Salary commensurate with qualifications, minimum $58,536, plus a monthly administrative stipend. Librarians at the University of California, Santa Barbara are professional academic appointees who accrue vacation at the rate of two days per month and sick leave at the rate of one day per month. The University has an excellent retirement system, which is coordinated with Social Security. A selection of group health, dental, vision, and life insurance plans are offered by the University. Consideration of applications begins immediately and continues until the position is filled; applications received by *November 1, 2007* will receive first consideration. Send resume, and the names, addresses, telephone numbers and email addresses of three references to: *Detrice Bankhead, Associate University Librarian, Human Resources, Davidson Library, University of California, Santa Barbara, CA 93106. *Applications may also be sent via email ? bankhead@library.ucsb.edu Appointment and/or continued employment is contingent on successful completion of a background check. /The University of California, Santa Barbara is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer and invites applications from all who meet the stated qualifications./ From kingsley at arsc.edu Wed Aug 29 14:23:21 2007 From: kingsley at arsc.edu (Ilana Kingsley) Date: Wed Aug 29 14:29:23 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] ASTM and ezproxy Message-ID: Does anyone know the config statement to use ASTM (standards) with ezproxy? I've tried the following, but neither work: T ASTM U http://www.astm.org D astm.org H astm.org T ASTM U http://enterprise.astm.org D astm.org Thanks, Ilana Kingsley, Web Librarian University of Alaska Fairbanks, Elmer E. Rasmuson Library 310 Tanana Drive,Room 449, Fairbanks, Alaska 997755 Tel: 907-474-7518 kingsley@arsc.edu || ffimk@uaf.edu From gerrymck at iastate.edu Wed Aug 29 14:24:04 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed Aug 29 14:52:34 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites In-Reply-To: <46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D56FCA.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5705F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57171.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5721A.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Friends/ ---Question Of The Day--- ***When is a Social Networking Site A Social Networking Site?*** >From Wikipedia: _Social Network Service_ A social network service focuses on the building and verifying of online social networks for communities of people who share interests and activities, or who are interested in exploring the interests and activities of others, and which necessitates the use of software. Most social network services are primarily web based and provide a collection of various ways for users to interact, such as chat, messaging, email, video, voice chat, file sharing, blogging, discussion groups, and so on. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking#Business_applications ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _Social Bookmarking_ On a social bookmarking system or network, users store lists of Internet resources that they find useful. These lists can be accessible to the public by users of a specific network or website. Other users with similar interests can view the links by topic, category, tags, or even randomly. Other than web page bookmarks, services specialized to a specific subject or format - feeds, books, videos, shopping items, map locations, wineries, etc. - can be found. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_bookmarking ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Both Are Social Media, But What is the Distinguishing Difference [If There Are Real Differences?] What Characteristics Do *YOU* Believe Make a Social Networking Site/Service a Social Networking Site/Service ? Thanks For Considering !!! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com Wed Aug 29 14:29:13 2007 From: rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com (Robert L. Balliot) Date: Wed Aug 29 14:53:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20070829133804.05df8840@bbn.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> <000001c7ea5d$80118b40$6401a8c0@junior> <7.0.0.16.2.20070829133804.05df8840@bbn.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7ea6a$80265fe0$6401a8c0@junior> Thanks for correcting my error. I think Will's explanation is very good. I put my glasses on and re-read Ray's question. I am unclear, however, on what Will means by "snarky". In this case, it would appear to mean: "posting to a discussion group as quickly as possible in order to correct disinformation thereby demonstrating prodigious proficiency in the nerdish arts" :) ************************************************* Robert L. Balliot 1-401-441-5763 Skype: RBalliot Bristol, Rhode Island http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm ************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: Will Kurt [mailto:wkurt@bbn.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:02 PM To: rballiot@oceanstatelibrarian.com; 'Raumin "Ray" Dehghan'; 'web4lib' Subject: RE: [Web4lib] understanding javascript At 12:56 PM 8/29/2007, Robert L. Balliot wrote: >http://javaranch.com > >http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ These are both Java resources, I'm sure someone will likely beat me to it but... JAVA != JavaScript the only connection the 2 languages have is based almost solely on marketing. JavaScript is an interpreted scripting language which is officially named 'ECMAScript' and also developed under Netscape as 'LiveScript'. Netscape briefly partnered with Sun and they renamed it JavaScript purely for marketing purposes. Java is a compiled programming language which is syntactically much more like C++ than Javascript. Learning Java is nothing like learning JavaScript, and the 2 are almost never used for the same type of development work. Most of the Java you'll see on the web is server side ( .jsp is the JavaServer Page extension), all of the JavaScript work you'd do on the web will be used for client side scripting. Java- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_%28programming_language%29 JavaScript- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript I hope I don't come across as snarky, but I did want to clear that up as it can lead to a lot of confusion. --Will >************************************************* >Robert L. Balliot >1-401-441-5763 >Skype: RBalliot >Bristol, Rhode Island >http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm >************************************************* > >-----Original Message----- >From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org >[mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Raumin "Ray" Dehghan >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:06 PM >To: web4lib; css >Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript > >Colleagues, > >I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to >any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in >javascript. > >Thanks >Raumin "Ray" Dehghan >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From rboulton at stcharleslibrary.org Wed Aug 29 15:10:18 2007 From: rboulton at stcharleslibrary.org (Robin) Date: Wed Aug 29 15:10:29 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites In-Reply-To: <46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> References: <46D56FCA.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D5705F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D57171.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D5721A.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> Message-ID: <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> The most visible difference I perceive is that one allows direct, unstructured communication/interaction between members (e.g. MySpace), while the other allows you to publish your information and make it accessible to others, but doesn't support direct interaction (e.g. LibraryThing). -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Mckiernan Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:24 PM To: lita-l@ala1.ala.org; asis-L@asis.org; web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** Friends/ ---Question Of The Day--- ***When is a Social Networking Site A Social Networking Site?*** >From Wikipedia: _Social Network Service_ A social network service focuses on the building and verifying of online social networks for communities of people who share interests and activities, or who are interested in exploring the interests and activities of others, and which necessitates the use of software. Most social network services are primarily web based and provide a collection of various ways for users to interact, such as chat, messaging, email, video, voice chat, file sharing, blogging, discussion groups, and so on. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking#Business_applications ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- _Social Bookmarking_ On a social bookmarking system or network, users store lists of Internet resources that they find useful. These lists can be accessible to the public by users of a specific network or website. Other users with similar interests can view the links by topic, category, tags, or even randomly. Other than web page bookmarks, services specialized to a specific subject or format - feeds, books, videos, shopping items, map locations, wineries, etc. - can be found. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_bookmarking ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Both Are Social Media, But What is the Distinguishing Difference [If There Are Real Differences?] What Characteristics Do *YOU* Believe Make a Social Networking Site/Service a Social Networking Site/Service ? Thanks For Considering !!! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From lbell927 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 29 15:51:47 2007 From: lbell927 at yahoo.com (Lori Bell) Date: Wed Aug 29 15:51:52 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Virtual World Librarianship classes in September Message-ID: <563809.59469.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> There is STILL TIME TO REGISTER for the September Virtual World Librarianship courses. Seats are available in all sections of both the Introduction and Intermediate Virtual World Librarianship in Second Life courses. Please note that we are offering the courses at a few different times of the day and night. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Graduate School of Library and Information Science at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign and the Alliance Library System of Illinois are pleased to offer two different six week online (in Second Life) courses to introduce you to libraries and information services in a virtual world. These are non-credit courses, but continuing professional education units (CEU and CPDU) are available upon request. INTRODUCTION TO VIRTUAL WORLD LIBRARIANSHIP (3 sections available) Section One: September 4, 11, 18, 25, October 2 and 9 from 6:00 - 8:00 pm SL (8:00 - 10:00 pm central) Section Two: September 14, 21, 28, October 19, 26, and November 9 from 7:30 - 9:30 a.m. SL (9:30 - 11:30 am central) Section Three: September 14, 21, 28, October 19, 26, and November 9 from 11:30 am - 1:30 pm SL (1:30 - 3:30 pm central) Location: Info Island, Second Life Cost: $200 Audience: Open to all library and information professionals Week One: Introduction to Libraries in Virtual Worlds Week Two: Second Life 101 Week Three: Collections, Resources, and Exhibits in Virtual Environment Week Four: Reference and Information Services in Virtual Worlds Week Five: Managing and Working in a Virtual Library or Department Week Six: Skills Needed by 21st Century Librarians in Virtual Worlds \u003cbr\>\u003cbr\>INTERMEDIATE VIRTUAL WORLD LIBRARIANSHIP (3 sections available) \u003cbr\>\u003cbr\>Section One: September 17, 24, October 1, 8, 15, and 22 from 6:00 -\u003cbr\>\n8:00 pm SL (8:00 - 10:00 pm central) \u003cbr\>Section Two: November 6, 13, 20, 27, December 4 and 11 from 7:30 - 9:30\u003cbr\>a.m. SL (9:30 - 11:30 am central) \u003cbr\>Section Three: November 6, 13, 20, 27, December 4 and 11 from 11:30 am\n\u003cbr\>- 1:30 pm SL (1:30 - 3:30 pm central) \u003cbr\>\u003cbr\>Location: Info Island, \u003cspan style\u003d\"border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed\"\>Second Life\u003c/span\> \u003cbr\>Cost: $250 \u003cbr\>Audience: Open to those who have completed the Introduction course or\n\u003cbr\>who have library experience in \u003cspan style\u003d\"border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed\"\>Second Life\u003c/span\> \u003cbr\>\u003cbr\>Week One: Overview of Virtual Worlds Including \u003cspan style\u003d\"border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed\"\>\nSecond Life\u003c/span\> &\u003cbr\>Others-What Libraries are Doing in Them \u003cbr\>Week Two: Library Programs and Events in \u003cspan style\u003d\"border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed\"\>Second Life\u003c/span\>\n \u003cbr\>Week Three: Introduction to Building and Scripting Items in \u003cspan style\u003d\"border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed\"\>Second Life\u003c/span\>\u003cbr\>\u003cbr\>Week Four: Virtual World Library Services for Teens and Young Adults \n\u003cbr\>Week Five: Introduction to Machinima - Creating Films in \u003cspan style\u003d\"border-bottom:#0066cc 1px dashed\"\>Second Life\u003c/span\> \u003cbr\>Week Six: Immersive Learning Environments and Libraries \n\u003cbr\>\u003cbr\>For additional information and to register, visit:\u003cbr\>\u003ca href\u003d\"http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/programs/cpd/Second_Life.html\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\"\>\u003cspan style\u003d\"background:none transparent scroll repeat 0% 0%\"\>\n\u003cfont color\u003d\"#003399\"\>http://www.lis.uiuc.edu\u003cWBR\>/programs/cpd/Second_Life.html\u003c/font\>\u003c/span\>\u003c/a\>? \u003cbr clear\u003d\"all\"\>\u003cbr\>-- \u003cbr\>Lori Bell\u003cbr\>Director of Innovation\u003cbr\>Alliance Library System\u003cbr\>600 High Point Lane\u003cbr\>East Peoria, IL 61611\n\u003cbr\>(309)694-9200 ext. 2128\u003cbr\>skype: lbell927\u003cbr\>\u003ca href\u003d\"mailto:lbell@alliancelibrarysystem.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\"\>",1] ); //--> Week Six: Skills Needed by 21st Century Librarians in Virtual Worlds INTERMEDIATE VIRTUAL WORLD LIBRARIANSHIP (3 sections available) Section One: September 17, 24, October 1, 8, 15, and 22 from 6:00 - 8:00 pm SL (8:00 - 10:00 pm central) Section Two: November 6, 13, 20, 27, December 4 and 11 from 7:30 - 9:30 a.m. SL (9:30 - 11:30 am central) Section Three: November 6, 13, 20, 27, December 4 and 11 from 11:30 am - 1:30 pm SL (1:30 - 3:30 pm central) Location: Info Island, Second Life Cost: $250 Audience: Open to those who have completed the Introduction course or who have library experience in Second Life Week One: Overview of Virtual Worlds Including Second Life & Others-What Libraries are Doing in Them Week Two: Library Programs and Events in Second Life Week Three: Introduction to Building and Scripting Items in Second Life Week Four: Virtual World Library Services for Teens and Young Adults Week Five: Introduction to Machinima - Creating Films in Second Life Week Six: Immersive Learning Environments and Libraries For additional information and to register, visit: http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/programs/cpd/Second_Life.html Lori Bell Director of Innovation Alliance Library System 600 High Point Lane East Peoria, IL 61611 (309)694-9200 ext. 2128 lbell@alliancelibrarysystem.com --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From ASchleigh at cse.edu Wed Aug 29 16:41:44 2007 From: ASchleigh at cse.edu (Amy Schleigh) Date: Wed Aug 29 16:45:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is also nanoHub: https://www.nanohub.org/home See this write-up from Grid Today: Scientists Create Their Own Web 2.0 Network with NanoHub http://www.gridtoday.com/grid/1743849.html Amy Schleigh Information Technology/Electronic Resources Librarian College of Saint Elizabeth Morristown, NJ 07960 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Hutchens, Chad Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:57 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? Add the Public Library of Science (PLoS), and Public Library of Science One (PLoSOne...in beta) to the list as well. PLoSOne is actually quite interesting. www.plos.org www.plosone.org Chad E. Hutchens Electronic Resources Librarian Montana State University Libraries P.O. Box 173320 Bozeman, MT 59717-3320 (406) 994-4313 phone (406) 994-2851 fax chutchens@montana.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:30 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? I'm reproducing here the text of a recent; posting on Web4Lib: " I'd second Robert L. Balliot's suggestion that a successful sci tech- themed blog should be considered a social networking site, and add to that Arxiv.org. http://arxiv.org/ Arxiv may not at first look like a social networking site, but the process of endorsements and the invitation for peer review and discussion (including via trackbacks) give it the necessary features. http://arxiv.org/help/trackback It may not quite be Flickr for the hard sciences, but it's an inspiring example of how academic publishing is changing. Casey Bisson _______________________________________" -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Swoger Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:36 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] SciTech Social Networking Sites? Are you aware of Connotea ? This works a lot like del.icio.us, but with some additional features for scientists (recognizing additional metadata for stored links), and a focus on the scientific community (it is associated with Nature Publishing Group). You can create groups, and see what other people are tagging. -Bonnie Swoger SUNY Geneseo > On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Gerry Mckiernan wrote: > > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > > > SciTech Social Networking Sites? > > > > For a future *Sci-5* column for _Science & Technology Libraries_, I > > am greatly interested in profiling Science and Technology Social > > Networks > > > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites ] > > > > To date, I*ve only been able to identify one, the *Nature > > Network* > > > > [ http://network.nature.com/ ] > > > > [ > > http://blogs.nature.com/wp/nascent/2006/06/ > > nature_network_boston_launches.html > > ] > > > > I would MostAppreciate Learning of Any and/or All similar sites for > > Scientists/Engineers/Technology Folk, Etc. > > > > ***IntRAnet*** (and Local Efforts) (_as well as_ **IntERnet** Social > > Networking Sites (SNSs)) are also of interest. > > > > BTW-1: Nothing about IntRAnet/ SNSs in The Business Databases > > (ABI/Inform; Business and Company ASAP) [?] > > > > BTW-2: I am aware of LinkedIn [ http://www.linkedin.com/ ] and its > > Company Pages > > [ http://www.linkedin.com/static?key=company_directory&trk=gfoot_comp > > ] > > > > Thanks! > > > > /Gerry > > > > Gerry McKiernan > > Science and Technology Librarian > > Iowa State University Library > > Ames IA 5011 > > > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Web4lib mailing list > > Web4lib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From gerrymck at iastate.edu Wed Aug 29 17:11:57 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed Aug 29 17:12:25 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] UnderAppreciated Facebook Apps For Library Use? Message-ID: <46D59ACE0200006700010A2C@staff2.lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** _UnderAppreciated Facebook Apps For Library Use_ Friends/ I am Greatly Interested in Learning of UnderAppreciated Facebook Apps That Can-May-Might-Could-Will Have Actual/Potential Application(s) for Enhanced/Engaged Library Services. In Twenty-Five Words (or Less) [:->], I Would Appreciate Learning of Your UnSung Favorite Facebook App [or Apps That That You Believe Must Be Developed [:-)] And Its/Their Actual/Potential Value(s). Please Post ToThe FacebookAppsFor Libraries Discussion Board At [ http://iastate.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2469777131 ] The Directory Of Facebook Apps Is Available At [ http://iastate.facebook.com/apps/ ] BTW: Your Home Site Will Replace Mine [:->] Thanks For Considering !!! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From gerrymck at iastate.edu Wed Aug 29 17:30:24 2007 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed Aug 29 17:31:00 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] UnderAppreciated Facebook Apps For Library Use? Message-ID: <46D59F200200006700010A3E@staff2.lib.iastate.edu> ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** _UnderAppreciated Facebook Apps For Library Use_ Friends/ I am Greatly Interested in Learning of UnderAppreciated Facebook Apps That Can-May-Might-Could-Will Have Actual/Potential Application(s) for Enhanced/Engaged Library Services. In Twenty-Five Words (or Less) [:->], I Would Appreciate Learning of Your UnSung Favorite Facebook App [or Apps That That You Believe Must Be Developed [:-)] And Its/Their Actual/Potential Value(s). Please Post ToThe FacebookAppsFor Libraries Discussion Board At [ http://iastate.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2469777131 ] The Directory Of Facebook Apps Is Available At [ http://iastate.facebook.com/apps/ ] BTW: Your Home Site Will Replace Mine [:->] Thanks For Considering !!! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor Science and Technology Librarian Iowa State University Library Ames IA 5011 !!! Social Networking is People !!! [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] From conal.tuohy at vuw.ac.nz Wed Aug 29 17:36:05 2007 From: conal.tuohy at vuw.ac.nz (Conal Tuohy) Date: Wed Aug 29 17:36:11 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1188423365.29565.12.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 11:05 -0500, Raumin "Ray" Dehghan wrote: > Colleagues, > > I really am trying to understand javascript. I would appreciate links to > any websites that explain javascript well, especially for a beginner in > javascript. > > Thanks > Raumin "Ray" Dehghan Javascript is a bit odd in that it is a kind of functional language but has a very procedural style. Many people coming to javascript don't realise that those functional features are available (and many tutorials don't cover it adequately), but it's definitely worth knowing. Try searching for "javascript functional language". http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/08/01.html Con From emolanphy at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 22:35:51 2007 From: emolanphy at gmail.com (Emily Molanphy) Date: Wed Aug 29 22:35:55 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites In-Reply-To: <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> References: <46D56FCA.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5705F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57171.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5721A.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> Message-ID: To continue along Robin's line of thought, I would break off a subgenre of sites that revolve around entities in addition to people. LibraryThing would be such a site because it is used to catalog (in the looser sense) books; del.icio.us is such a site because it is used to keep track of links. The additional entity serves as a focus for the site, usually searchable ("who likes 'To Kill a Mockingbird'?"), which you tend not to see emphasized in the same way on sites like MySpace, or LinkedIn, which are social networks in a more straightforward sense. I wrote a blog post a while back about what I called "inventory sites." Some have to do with physical objects (bottles of wine), others with electronic items (journal citations), and not all of them have a social aspect. Those that do seem to allow users to connect at the point of common interest rather than directly to each other, as Robin says. So I would see the distinction Gerry is making between social networking and social bookmarking sites as the point at which the social networking and inventory genres intersect. On 8/29/07, Robin wrote: > > The most visible difference I perceive is that one allows direct, > unstructured communication/interaction between members (e.g. MySpace), > while the other allows you to publish your information and make it > accessible to others, but doesn't support direct interaction ( e.g. > LibraryThing). > > From fostersm1 at gmail.com Wed Aug 29 22:48:11 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Wed Aug 29 22:48:15 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites In-Reply-To: <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> References: <46D56FCA.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5705F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57171.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5721A.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> Message-ID: <4c5c30910708291948n6ef01b57qf46bac04d90c319c@mail.gmail.com> Not sure if this is what you mean by direct interaction, but LibraryThing does have discussion forums and groups of users with special interests: librarians, science fiction fans, etc. Users can create a new group, start a new topic, and reply to other posts. On 8/29/07, Robin wrote: > The most visible difference I perceive is that one allows direct, > unstructured communication/interaction between members (e.g. MySpace), > while the other allows you to publish your information and make it > accessible to others, but doesn't support direct interaction (e.g. > LibraryThing). > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Mckiernan > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:24 PM > To: lita-l@ala1.ala.org; asis-L@asis.org; web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > Friends/ > > ---Question Of The Day--- > > ***When is a Social Networking Site A Social Networking Site?*** > > >From Wikipedia: > > _Social Network Service_ > A social network service focuses on the building and verifying of online > social networks for communities of people who share interests and > activities, or who are interested in exploring the interests and > activities of others, and which necessitates the use of software. > > Most social network services are primarily web based and provide a > collection of various ways for users to interact, such as chat, > messaging, email, video, voice chat, file sharing, blogging, discussion > groups, and so on. > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking#Business_applications ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > _Social Bookmarking_ > > On a social bookmarking system or network, users store lists of Internet > resources that they find useful. These lists can be accessible to the > public by users of a specific network or website. Other users with > similar interests can view the links by topic, category, tags, or even > randomly. > > Other than web page bookmarks, services specialized to a specific > subject or format - feeds, books, videos, shopping items, map locations, > wineries, etc. - can be found. > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_bookmarking ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------- > Both Are Social Media, But What is the Distinguishing Difference [If > There Are Real Differences?] > > What Characteristics Do *YOU* Believe Make a Social Networking > Site/Service a Social Networking Site/Service ? > > Thanks For Considering !!! > > /Gerry > > Gerry McKiernan > Associate Professor > Science and Technology Librarian > Iowa State University Library > Ames IA 5011 > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From siansleep at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 10:04:35 2007 From: siansleep at gmail.com (David Kemper) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:04:41 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Message-ID: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Colleagues, I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and website management in a library and/or information center environment. I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to archival material. Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that 1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I have been typecast, it seems. I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my next step. Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me off the list at siansleep@gmail.com Thank you. David From rdavis at thomas.lib.me.us Thu Aug 30 10:18:16 2007 From: rdavis at thomas.lib.me.us (Rachel Davis) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:22:46 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "David Kemper" writes: >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com Please reply on the list, please! I'm in the same boat! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 From fostersm1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 10:27:21 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:27:27 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c5c30910708300727r71cd46delad11892ac7827a21@mail.gmail.com> I would also appreciate the advice. I was an embedded software engineer, have done some web development for school and personal use, am teaching myself XML, PHP, Perl, SQL, and a few other acronyms, am half-way through library school, but fear I don't have enough library-specific experience in any of these areas to land a decent job after graduation. On 8/30/07, Rachel Davis wrote: > "David Kemper" writes: > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > Please reply on the list, please! I'm in the same boat! > > Rachel > > Rachel Q. Davis > Children's Librarian > Thomas Memorial Library > 6 Scott Dyer Road > Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 > 207-799-1720 > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From jtgorman at uiuc.edu Thu Aug 30 10:27:32 2007 From: jtgorman at uiuc.edu (Jonathan Gorman) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:34:22 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Message-ID: <20070830092732.AWJ08002@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu> ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:04:35 -0400 >From: "David Kemper" >Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths >To: web4lib > >Colleagues, > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my >next step. > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > In my opinion, stop trying for libraries. Sad to say, but most libraries want a web designer/web developer/database administrator all rolled up in one neat little package. Partly it's just limited resources and also amount of work. There's few libraries that change websites or add new pages frequently enough to require the services of a full-time designer. So most people round it out with programming experience. But if you're really interested in the field, develop a portfolio and try to start getting customers. You might be able to help with libraries, but more likely you'll have to do it pro bono. The sites that really, really need help also have little money. Not a lot of companies are probably going to hire you either. If you want to do this you'll have to think of it in terms of consulting or similar. You'll be self-employed, run your own studio, and actively seek out customers for the first few years till you make a reputation. Of course, my impression could be completely wrong. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find what you're looking for ;). Jon Gorman From amostrom at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 10:35:41 2007 From: amostrom at gmail.com (Amy Drayer) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:36:40 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Re: [css-d] understanding javascript In-Reply-To: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> References: <1198792c0708290905w9c9089bva17de4b34a099209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2dfe2dd0708300735w22368512pca37a4cfe4a79685@mail.gmail.com> Dear Raumin and Web4Libbers: I've been avoiding javascript for a long time, but after implementing several javascript solutions (mostly found at Dynamic Drive or Twin Helix), I decided that my basic knowledge of scripting didn't cut it. I highly recommend reading DOM Scripting by Jeremy Keith. I'm reading it now, and things make a lot more sense. In fact, if you want to get into web design, here's a short list of books I have found very useful: DOM Scripting by Jeremy Keith Designing with Web Standards by Jeffrey Zeldman Eric Meyer on CSS by Eric Meyer (as well as More Eric Meyer on CSS) and for more advanced ideas, I'm reading Transcending CSS by Andy Clarke Read, experiment, play. :-) I hope this helps. -- In peace, Amy M. Drayer Web Interface Designer amostrom@gmail.com http://www.puzumaki.com From beanworks at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 10:35:24 2007 From: beanworks at gmail.com (Carol Bean) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:36:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Aug 30, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Rachel Davis wrote: > "David Kemper" writes: >> Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to >> email me >> off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > Please reply on the list, please! I'm in the same boat! > > Rachel > > Rachel Q. Davis > Children's Librarian > Thomas Memorial Library > 6 Scott Dyer Road > Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 > 207-799-1720 FWIW, my reply to David's post: Have you tried "just doing it," as in have something akin to a portfolio to show prospective employers? I would suggest, rather than investing in more courses (unless you need them to do the next steps), purchase space on a webserver (or webhost), set up a site for something you like or are interested in (archiving issues?) using a CMS (content management system), and start filling it with content. You might want to play around with the site before taking it "live" to show others. You might even want to consider two sites - one as a playground, the other live. Some webhosts will give you an option for more than one site in their plan. Different webhosts have different CMS's available (like Mambo, Joomla, or Plone), but I don't think any particular one is more useful/important than another: just being able to use a CMS is important. Another aspect of gaining real experience to show others is being able to use some of the scripting languages, such as python, perl, ruby, to interact with a database backend such as MySQL. If the webhost has ruby for rails on their platform, consider setting up a site with rails. Don't get sidetracked into this, however. The most important thing is to just do it: produce something that demonstrates your knowledge and abilities (which, in the case of web design/management can include content as well as design). Carol Bean beanworks@gmail.com From gwiseman at ci.waco.tx.us Thu Aug 30 10:39:10 2007 From: gwiseman at ci.waco.tx.us (Gillian Wiseman) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:47:27 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, this may sound shallow, but if you are worried about not having experience, have you thought about doing volunteer work in the field? Maybe you could redesign a local library's website for them, or find some other project to spend some time and energy on that you can then use as a career promotional tool. I know that any number of folks have volunteered at our library over the summers and then found themselves employed come fall. Not in technical areas, but it does work... Gillian -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Rachel Davis Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:18 AM To: David Kemper Cc: web4lib Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths "David Kemper" writes: >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com Please reply on the list, please! I'm in the same boat! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com Thu Aug 30 10:42:44 2007 From: rballiot at oceanstatelibrarian.com (Robert L. Balliot) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:47:45 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites In-Reply-To: <4c5c30910708291948n6ef01b57qf46bac04d90c319c@mail.gmail.com> References: <46D56FCA.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D5705F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D57171.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D5721A.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu><0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> <4c5c30910708291948n6ef01b57qf46bac04d90c319c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c7eb14$06a52cf0$6401a8c0@junior> Greetings, I think it is somewhat awkward to try to redefine the words 'social' and 'networking' to fit within a restrictive concept. The applications within a social networking 'site' define usage. Web4lib itself is an application of social networking. Here is a good example of social networking with a common interest group using the web in pursuit of common goals. The web site has attracted many visitors which help sustain and perpetuate the social network: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/30/spider.web.ap/index.html ************************************************* Robert L. Balliot 1-401-441-5763 Skype: RBalliot Bristol, Rhode Island http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/contact.htm ************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Foster Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:48 PM To: Robin Cc: lita-l@ala1.ala.org; Gerry Mckiernan; web4lib@webjunction.org; asis-L@asis.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites Not sure if this is what you mean by direct interaction, but LibraryThing does have discussion forums and groups of users with special interests: librarians, science fiction fans, etc. Users can create a new group, start a new topic, and reply to other posts. On 8/29/07, Robin wrote: > The most visible difference I perceive is that one allows direct, > unstructured communication/interaction between members (e.g. MySpace), > while the other allows you to publish your information and make it > accessible to others, but doesn't support direct interaction (e.g. > LibraryThing). > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Mckiernan > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:24 PM > To: lita-l@ala1.ala.org; asis-L@asis.org; web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > Friends/ > > ---Question Of The Day--- > > ***When is a Social Networking Site A Social Networking Site?*** > > >From Wikipedia: > > _Social Network Service_ > A social network service focuses on the building and verifying of online > social networks for communities of people who share interests and > activities, or who are interested in exploring the interests and > activities of others, and which necessitates the use of software. > > Most social network services are primarily web based and provide a > collection of various ways for users to interact, such as chat, > messaging, email, video, voice chat, file sharing, blogging, discussion > groups, and so on. > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking#Business_applications ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > _Social Bookmarking_ > > On a social bookmarking system or network, users store lists of Internet > resources that they find useful. These lists can be accessible to the > public by users of a specific network or website. Other users with > similar interests can view the links by topic, category, tags, or even > randomly. > > Other than web page bookmarks, services specialized to a specific > subject or format - feeds, books, videos, shopping items, map locations, > wineries, etc. - can be found. > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_bookmarking ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------- > Both Are Social Media, But What is the Distinguishing Difference [If > There Are Real Differences?] > > What Characteristics Do *YOU* Believe Make a Social Networking > Site/Service a Social Networking Site/Service ? > > Thanks For Considering !!! > > /Gerry > > Gerry McKiernan > Associate Professor > Science and Technology Librarian > Iowa State University Library > Ames IA 5011 > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From Joan.Starr at ucop.edu Thu Aug 30 10:49:19 2007 From: Joan.Starr at ucop.edu (Joan Starr) Date: Thu Aug 30 10:58:02 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2C5A3EEFD5A6FF44B9B6A6B280A5ADF9019B7933@EXCHANGEMAIL.AD.UCOP.EDU> One suggestion: while you are in library or information school (the MLIS or MIS is still a preferred credential), do at least one internship with the kind of organization you'd like to work for. I did this while stillworking full time--it can be done. You use your vacation, you work remotely, you prove you are an excellent bet. This starts your resume on the turn you want to make and it also introduces you to people you'd like to have as colleagues. Or, it shows you the error of your thinking... :) Joan Starr Manager, Project Planning and Resource Allocation California Digital Library -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of David Kemper Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:05 AM To: web4lib Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Colleagues, I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and website management in a library and/or information center environment. I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to archival material. Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that 1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I have been typecast, it seems. I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my next step. Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me off the list at siansleep@gmail.com Thank you. David _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu Aug 30 11:03:09 2007 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Thu Aug 30 11:03:50 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Message-ID: <20070830110309.ANR61302@mozart.merit.edu> David, I would second the comments that you need to start developing a portfolio. As you've discovered, most organizations aren't going to take you on as a web developer without some examples that demonstrate your abilities. Gone are the days that people were hired for these positions because they knew a little bit about HTML or Javascript. If you already have the skills to be successful in that kind of position, you should be able to find work developing web sites for individuals, small companies and non-profits. There's a lot of people looking to establish or improve their presence on the web but who can't afford or don't want to work with a large organization or would prefer to work one-on-one with someone. You'll need to do some legwork to find potential clients. Perhaps you have friends or family who might have a need that would be willing to let you get started. Once you've done a few websites, you'll have something to show to potential employers or clients. As was suggested, at the minimum, you can demonstrate some of your skills and talents by putting together your own presence on the web. It's one way to show your abilities, will be needed if you do end up taking on clients and I think is pretty much expected by anyone looking to hire someone in this field. It's hard to talk about being a designer and not even having your own site. Good luck! Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:04:35 -0400 >From: "David Kemper" >Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths >To: web4lib > >Colleagues, > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and >website management in a library and/or information center environment. >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing >websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to >archival material. > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal >web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift >further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more >connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives >because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I >have been typecast, it seems. > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my >next step. > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > >Thank you. > >David >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From fostersm1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 11:05:35 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Thu Aug 30 11:08:35 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <2C5A3EEFD5A6FF44B9B6A6B280A5ADF9019B7933@EXCHANGEMAIL.AD.UCOP.EDU> References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> <2C5A3EEFD5A6FF44B9B6A6B280A5ADF9019B7933@EXCHANGEMAIL.AD.UCOP.EDU> Message-ID: <4c5c30910708300805rae7ac1fhb611b390a30cd506@mail.gmail.com> I've actually been working part-time in libraries for almost two years, since I started grad school, but I've been doing technical support, and only a little web design and development. I've done far more in that area for school projects. When I was a full-time software engineer, it was anathema to "give it away," even for a good cause. But I can certainly see working for libraries for a reduced rate at first, just to build up a portfolio of something other than school projects. On 8/30/07, Joan Starr wrote: > One suggestion: while you are in library or information school (the MLIS > or MIS is still a preferred credential), do at least one internship with > the kind of organization you'd like to work for. I did this while > stillworking full time--it can be done. You use your vacation, you work > remotely, you prove you are an excellent bet. > > This starts your resume on the turn you want to make and it also > introduces you to people you'd like to have as colleagues. Or, it shows > you the error of your thinking... :) > > Joan Starr > Manager, Project Planning and Resource Allocation > California Digital Library > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of David Kemper > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:05 AM > To: web4lib > Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths > > Colleagues, > > I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the archival > field but would like to move into the field of web design and website > management in a library and/or information center environment. > I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, while > mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was always > recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the > Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing > websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to > archival material. > > Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal > web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift > further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more > connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > > My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development > Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that > 1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough > technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives > because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I have > been typecast, it seems. > > I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I > have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online > information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real > keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to > better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a few > programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my next > step. > > Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me > off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > Thank you. > > David > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Thu Aug 30 11:28:07 2007 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (ponslm)) Date: Thu Aug 30 11:28:13 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well!-I did switch career paths ... I was in retail management, then managed a college bookstore. While at the bookstore, I became the "web person", and decided as you did, to try and make it my career. I would recommend several things, some of which others have recommended: - Buy server space and start doing sites. Might be for friends, local artists or authors, etc... And it might be for free, but it will build your portfolio. I use Hostgator which costs 6.95 a month, and I have 8 sites live and several to play, just on the hatchling plan. 4 of these are for non-profits, so I make nothing. - Use this space and buy your own domain name as well and use this for your portfolio. Hostgator uses cpanel and fantastico to install things like Drupal, joomla and such, and you can do this in a sub-folder of your domain to learn these tools...even if they never go live. The important thing is to just do it. - Continue to take web courses- especially in programming languages- I would recommend javascript, SQL, and either php or ruby to start off. You didn't say you particularly want to do just design, so make sure you are well rounded. Learn some Flash as well. Keep up as much as you can with the new stuff. - Puruse job ads and see what desired elements keep coming up. Learn those languages/programs. - Try for some certifications. WOW (World Association of Webmasters) offers discounted online courses for members. You didn't say where you work, so if it is a college or some such, can you take classes? Even stuff such as Programming, Server Administration, Networking, etc, will be beneficial. - There are several free-lance sites out there offering work for people- try some of these for small jobs building your portfolio. - Is there a project within your current job that you could do, even on your own time to "show your stuff". A database driven website of some of your archived stuff? - Apply for as many jobs as possible, for experience. Even if you don't get it, take the feedback they give you to learn what you must do in the future. - Know that you will start at the bottom of the totem pole- and the salary range. Basically, become a web professional - not a hobbyist. For now, until this can become a vocation, it should be your avocation- read a lot about everything, know the terminology, etc... HTH- feel free (anyone) to contact me for more info... Lisa Haitz Webmaster University Libraries University of Cincinnati > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of David Kemper > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:05 AM > To: web4lib > Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths > > Colleagues, > > I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in > the archival field but would like to move into the field of > web design and website management in a library and/or > information center environment. > I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that > time, while mixing in some archival research work and some > processing, I was always recognized by supervisors and > colleagues as the "web guy," the Webmaster, the guy tinkering > with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing websites, taking > advantage of web technology to give greater access to > archival material. > > Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy > to formal web professional has become stronger, as I feel my > interest drift further away from my current field. A case in > point: I often feel more connected by discussions occurring > here than on other listservs. > > My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web > Development Librarian positions (or something to that extent) > only to be told that > 1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have > enough technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should > remain in archives because I have been doing it for so long. > Like a Hollywood actor, I have been typecast, it seems. > > I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths > effectively. I have taken numerous courses on web and > multimedia design; online information organization; graphic > design and others. And I have a real keen interest in the web > and the latest trends, and how they work to better > communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a > few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what > should be my next step. > > Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to > email me off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > Thank you. > > David > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From wkurt at bbn.com Thu Aug 30 12:16:32 2007 From: wkurt at bbn.com (Will Kurt) Date: Thu Aug 30 12:17:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.co m> References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20070830121428.05e83668@bbn.com> Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web development work and also see around a thousand library job postings a year. My 2 cents are: Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want it. Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of qualifications for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant volumes about this, but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. The point is don't be discouraged, and also don't be afraid to look outside of library-land for positions that may be equally rewarding and better paying. To echo what everyone else is saying: build something! The site that I run has been an incredible learning experience, and continues to scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a useful service to a lot of people in the area. Don't be afraid of programming, find a language that works for you and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted language well it's fairly easy to at least understand what's happening in another. I'm going to have to put in my plug for Python, which is very easy to learn and works well for everything from simple procedural programming, to OOP and even Functional Programming. And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma that getting low wages is okay and just part of life, it's not. --Will At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: >Colleagues, > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and >website management in a library and/or information center environment. >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing >websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to >archival material. > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal >web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift >further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more >connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives >because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I >have been typecast, it seems. > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my >next step. > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > >Thank you. > >David >_______________________________________________ >Web4lib mailing list >Web4lib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From marshall.breeding at vanderbilt.edu Thu Aug 30 12:22:42 2007 From: marshall.breeding at vanderbilt.edu (Marshall Breeding) Date: Thu Aug 30 12:24:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Automation survey -- gentle reminder Message-ID: To the members of WEB4LIB: Earlier this month I sent a request to this list requesting participation in a survey that I am conducting on automation trends. I've gotten a fairly good response so far, but I'm hoping for considerably more. If you hadn't had a chance to respond, the survey is still active. Thanks for your consideration of this request. The original message follows: --------- I am conducting a survey on library automation trends. The survey aims to measure how well libraries are satisfied with their automation systems and the companies or other organizations that support them. It also attempts to get some indication of whether libraries are looking favorably on open source software for their automation system. The survey works through the lib-web-cats directory within the Library Technology Guides web site. This approach eliminates the need to retype any demographic information regarding your library. You will just need to navigate to your library in lib-web-cats. Here are the instructions on how to complete the survey: http://www.librarytechnology.org/lwc-survey-2007.pl I am hoping to get a very large response to this survey. I will publish the results of the study in an upcoming article, provided I get enough responses to ensure its validity. Thanks in advance for taking the time to participate in the survey. Please contact me directly if you have any problems accessing or completing the survey. -Marshall Breeding ----------------------------------------------------------------- Marshall Breeding Director for Innovative Technologies and Research Vanderbilt University Library 615-343-6094 Editor, Library Technology Guides http://www.librarytechnology.org From sattler9 at mail.lib.msu.edu Thu Aug 30 12:46:38 2007 From: sattler9 at mail.lib.msu.edu (Sattler, Kelly) Date: Thu Aug 30 12:48:47 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Posting - WEB DESIGNER/REFERENCE Librarian, Librarian I - Michigan State University Libraries, East Lansing MI, USA Message-ID: <4AA263AB78B5394A8277D4C2A0EE490E0BB36CB0@MAINLIB12.lib.msu.edu> Title: WEB DESIGNER/REFERENCE Librarian, Librarian I (1 year, fixed term appointment) Responsibilities: Reporting to the Manager of the Web Services Team, the successful candidate will be responsible for the overall web presence for the MSU Libraries. Duties will include creating and implementing designs for the libraries website, documenting work, maintaining currency of site, and participating in meetings with clients and team members. Provide leadership for current trends in library technology field. A secondary assignment will include working in Reference. This librarian will participate in Main Library Reference, providing some combination of desk, chat, and email services that include evening and weekend hours. Participates in professional development and scholarly activities and serves on library and university committees as elected or assigned. Other appropriate duties as assigned. Required: Master's degree from an ALA-accredited program; experience with computer graphics and web page design; HTML, CSS, Photoshop or similar product, and other related software; excellent interpersonal, oral and written communication skills; ability to work in a team environment; preparation and commitment to conduct independent scholarship consistent with a librarian appointment; capacity and commitment to engage independently in continuing professional development.. Desired: Knowledge of accessibility and usability of websites; section 508 compliance; education/experience in graphic design; JavaScript; RSS; Web 2.0; creation/modification of skins for applications; database-backed web applications (e.g. weblogs, wikis); photography skills; Reference desk experience. Campus and Libraries: Michigan State University Libraries serve more than 4,500 faculty, 34,000 undergraduates and 9,000 graduate and professional students on a park-like campus of over 5,000 acres. The Main Library and 8 branch libraries have combined holdings of over 4.8 million volumes. East Lansing is a community of approximately 50,000 located adjacent to Lansing, the state capital. Compensation: $40,000 minimum. MSU provides generous fringe benefits. Closing Date: Applications received prior to September 15, 2007, will receive priority consideration. Applications will be accepted until this position is filled. Applications: Interested applicants should submit a letter of application, resume, and the names, addresses and e-mail addresses of three references to: Apply by U.S. mail: Colleen Hyslop Michigan State University Libraries, 100 Library Department - Human Resources East Lansing, MI 48824-1048 Apply by fax: (517) 353-8577, attention Diane. Apply by email: mayers@mail.lib.msu.edu Please include the position number from the top of the posting when applying. For more information about Michigan State University Libraries, visit our website at: MSU is committed to achieving excellence through cultural diversity. The university actively encourages applications and/or nominations of women, persons of color, veterans and persons with disabilities MSU is an affirmative action, equal opportunity employer From jtgorman at uiuc.edu Thu Aug 30 13:06:19 2007 From: jtgorman at uiuc.edu (Jonathan Gorman) Date: Thu Aug 30 13:07:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Message-ID: <20070830120619.AWJ33093@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu> ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:16:32 -0400 >From: Will Kurt >Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths >To: "David Kemper" , web4lib > >Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run >a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web >development work and also see around a thousand library job postings >a year. My 2 cents are: > >Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and >everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want >it. Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of >qualifications for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant >volumes about this, but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. > I suppose I should clarify my statement about not getting a web design position. I think it would be nearly impossible to get a pure web design job as a full time regular position in a library. If the graphical art side of the job is really what you enjoy and don't want to work with the programming/database type stuff, it's not likely to happen. On the other hand, if you're willing to branch out to the web developer and database side it's much more feasible. To even round it out more, some knowledge of usability testing and managing life-cycles would be useful to pick up. Jon Gorman From nina.mchale at cudenver.edu Thu Aug 30 13:10:33 2007 From: nina.mchale at cudenver.edu (McHale, Nina) Date: Thu Aug 30 13:13:38 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Another web book/web job advice Message-ID: <38B838B2210D8749B82E5914B5E3FA5E06F52C58@kelso.cudenver.edu> I'd like to add one more book to Amy's excellent list: Michael Sauers, XHTML and CSS Essentials for Library Web Design. He has a knack for explaining technical things to non-technical people, and as you can see from the title, the focus is *library* web design. I'm another one who got sucked in to the library webosphere; my first job (and most of my library school electives) was in reference, and when the director asked me if I wanted to "do" the library web site, I said no. She said, "Tough!" signed me up for a Dreamweaver class, and here I am, two library webmaster jobs later. One thing that helped me transition from reference to systems was to stress in an interview my public service background--an archivist could do the same. If you have public service experience, you likely have a better sense of your patrons' wants and needs than one who's a straight technologist. This experience is obviously helpful to the person who's designing the library's online presence. I was short on programming skills, but I was up front about that, and indicated that I was more than willing to learn. (And since I've been here, I've been able to receive training in PHP/MySQL.) Don't be apologetic about your past experience; show the employer how it's relevant to what you want to do now, and how it lead you to this point. Nina Nina McHale, MA/MSLS Assistant Professor, Web Librarian Auraria Library Serving the University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center-Downtown Campus, Metropolitan State College and the Community College of Denver 1100 Lawrence Street Denver, Colorado 80204 303-556-4729 nina.mchale@cudenver.edu From siansleep at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 13:20:31 2007 From: siansleep at gmail.com (David Kemper) Date: Thu Aug 30 13:23:52 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20070830121428.05e83668@bbn.com> References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.2.20070830121428.05e83668@bbn.com> Message-ID: <279898a50708301020o59d1bc5en1abfa4c19dc9c095@mail.gmail.com> Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how each piece of advice can help. The hardest part for me so far has been getting potential employers to see beyond the archivist role I have held for many years. I think several assume--and a few have expressed directly to me--that I am an archivist who worked on web projects, not enough experience or qualifications for their particular Web Librarian / Web Development needs. Breaking free from this will require an image change and, as many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. Funny, I get caught up with creating web presences for others, but I forget about myself. I agree with those who suggested I look beyond library-land. I really like academic environments, and working in the library as part of a Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much luck. Sounds like a good reason to look elsewhere. While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I suspect more programming knowledge is in order, and I think the languages suggested are a good start Besides web design, the Web as a communication, collaboration, knowledge sharing, community-building tool fascinates me. Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. I think there are others in the same boat who could benefit from this advice. Thank you!! David On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web > development work and also see around a thousand library job postings > a year. My 2 cents are: > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want > it. Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of > qualifications for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant > volumes about this, but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also don't be afraid to look > outside of library-land for positions that may be equally rewarding > and better paying. > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build something! The site that > I run has been an incredible learning experience, and continues to > scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a useful service to a > lot of people in the area. > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language that works for you > and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted language well it's fairly > easy to at least understand what's happening in another. I'm going > to have to put in my plug for Python, which is very easy to learn and > works well for everything from simple procedural programming, to OOP > and even Functional Programming. > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma that getting low wages > is okay and just part of life, it's not. > > --Will > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > >Colleagues, > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the > >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and > >website management in a library and/or information center environment. > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, > >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was > >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the > >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing > >websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to > >archival material. > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal > >web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift > >further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more > >connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development > >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives > >because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I > >have been typecast, it seems. > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I > >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online > >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real > >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to > >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a > >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my > >next step. > > > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > >Thank you. > > > >David > >_______________________________________________ > >Web4lib mailing list > >Web4lib@webjunction.org > >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Thu Aug 30 13:55:13 2007 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (ponslm)) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:01:07 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Blackboard Scholar- Linking to Library Resources? In-Reply-To: <2C5A3EEFD5A6FF44B9B6A6B280A5ADF9019B7933@EXCHANGEMAIL.AD.UCOP.EDU> Message-ID: Have any libraries out there integrated their holdings, either in catalog or other places, in with Blackboard Scholar? Any plans to? If so, what tools are you using? Any other info? Thanks! Lisa Pons-Haitz Webmaster University Libraries University of Cincinnati From dan.kammer at gmail.com Thu Aug 30 14:11:47 2007 From: dan.kammer at gmail.com (Dan Kammer) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:17:12 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708301020o59d1bc5en1abfa4c19dc9c095@mail.gmail.com> References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.0.16.2.20070830121428.05e83668@bbn.com> <279898a50708301020o59d1bc5en1abfa4c19dc9c095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7b73f7910708301111r7170e7f1h6dcc44ce342f119a@mail.gmail.com> Another possibility might be to initially go to a smaller environment where there is an unfulfilled need in this area. At my last job (total library staff was 12) my title was "Reference Librarian" but I was able to become the web person and redesign the site and gain experience. At my current job (campus of 2,000 students), and in the midst of a campus-wide financial crunch, there was a vacancy for the campus webmaster position and I essentially volunteered to take on these duties. I now lead the campus web group and am learning details of networking, LAMP and CMS's. Of course I realize I'm being taken advantage of as these are duties way above and beyond my regular job, but it does fulfill my desire to be involved in these areas and in the long run believe it will benefit the library as I become more knowledgeable. Dan On 8/30/07, David Kemper wrote: > > Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how each piece of advice can > help. > > The hardest part for me so far has been getting potential employers to > see beyond the archivist role I have held for many years. I think > several assume--and a few have expressed directly to me--that I am an > archivist who worked on web projects, not enough experience or > qualifications for their particular Web Librarian / Web Development > needs. Breaking free from this will require an image change and, as > many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. Funny, I get caught > up with creating web presences for others, but I forget about myself. > > I agree with those who suggested I look beyond library-land. I really > like academic environments, and working in the library as part of a > Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much luck. Sounds like a > good reason to look elsewhere. > > While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I suspect more > programming knowledge is in order, and I think the languages suggested > are a good start > > Besides web design, the Web as a communication, collaboration, > knowledge sharing, community-building tool fascinates me. > > Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. I think there are > others in the same boat who could benefit from this advice. > > Thank you!! > > David > > On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run > > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web > > development work and also see around a thousand library job postings > > a year. My 2 cents are: > > > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and > > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want > > it. Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of > > qualifications for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant > > volumes about this, but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. > > > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also don't be afraid to look > > outside of library-land for positions that may be equally rewarding > > and better paying. > > > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build something! The site that > > I run has been an incredible learning experience, and continues to > > scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a useful service to a > > lot of people in the area. > > > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language that works for you > > and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted language well it's fairly > > easy to at least understand what's happening in another. I'm going > > to have to put in my plug for Python, which is very easy to learn and > > works well for everything from simple procedural programming, to OOP > > and even Functional Programming. > > > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma that getting low wages > > is okay and just part of life, it's not. > > > > --Will > > > > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > > >Colleagues, > > > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the > > >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and > > >website management in a library and/or information center environment. > > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, > > >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was > > >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the > > >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing > > >websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to > > >archival material. > > > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal > > >web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift > > >further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more > > >connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > > > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development > > >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that > > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough > > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives > > >because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I > > >have been typecast, it seems. > > > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I > > >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online > > >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real > > >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to > > >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a > > >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my > > >next step. > > > > > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me > > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > > > >Thank you. > > > > > >David > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Web4lib mailing list > > >Web4lib@webjunction.org > > >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Dan Kammer Library Director, NMSU at Alamogordo 2400 N. Scenic Dr. Alamogordo, NM 88310 Phone: 505-439-3806 dkammer@nmsu.edu From WrightJ at library.phila.gov Thu Aug 30 14:13:43 2007 From: WrightJ at library.phila.gov (Wright, Jen) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:17:18 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708301020o59d1bc5en1abfa4c19dc9c095@mail.gmail.com> References: <279898a50708300704o265563e1tb0f9e4fc74481879@mail.gmail.com><7.0.0.16.2.20070830121428.05e83668@bbn.com> <279898a50708301020o59d1bc5en1abfa4c19dc9c095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Another way to add experience in the library web world is to get involved with web committees in ALA. Some divisions have web positions that are partially pay, partially conference compensation. Being a section's web person will get your experience with content management systems (ALA has had 2 in the last few years, hopefully that will settle down), working within an approved design to make something nice, and project management (one of the most important skills I developed as a Web Development Librarian and supervisor). It looks good on a library resume, too. Jennifer R Wright Electronic/Digital Resources Coordinator Free Library of Philadelphia 215.686.2874 www.library.phila.gov -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of David Kemper Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:21 PM To: web4lib Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how each piece of advice can help. The hardest part for me so far has been getting potential employers to see beyond the archivist role I have held for many years. I think several assume--and a few have expressed directly to me--that I am an archivist who worked on web projects, not enough experience or qualifications for their particular Web Librarian / Web Development needs. Breaking free from this will require an image change and, as many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. Funny, I get caught up with creating web presences for others, but I forget about myself. I agree with those who suggested I look beyond library-land. I really like academic environments, and working in the library as part of a Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much luck. Sounds like a good reason to look elsewhere. While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I suspect more programming knowledge is in order, and I think the languages suggested are a good start Besides web design, the Web as a communication, collaboration, knowledge sharing, community-building tool fascinates me. Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. I think there are others in the same boat who could benefit from this advice. Thank you!! David On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web > development work and also see around a thousand library job postings > a year. My 2 cents are: > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want it. > Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of qualifications > for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant volumes about this, > but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also don't be afraid to look > outside of library-land for positions that may be equally rewarding > and better paying. > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build something! The site that I > run has been an incredible learning experience, and continues to scale > as I learn new things. Plus it provides a useful service to a lot of > people in the area. > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language that works for you and > enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted language well it's fairly easy > to at least understand what's happening in another. I'm going to have > to put in my plug for Python, which is very easy to learn and works > well for everything from simple procedural programming, to OOP and > even Functional Programming. > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma that getting low wages is > okay and just part of life, it's not. > > --Will > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > >Colleagues, > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the > >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design > >and website management in a library and/or information center environment. > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, > >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I > >was always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," > >the Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, > >designing websites, taking advantage of web technology to give > >greater access to archival material. > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to > >formal web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest > >drift further away from my current field. A case in point: I often > >feel more connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development > >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told > >that > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in > >archives because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood > >actor, I have been typecast, it seems. > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I > >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online > >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a > >real keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they > >work to better communications and information delivery. I am > >wondering if a few programming courses are in order? I am not sure > >what should be my next step. > > > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email > >me off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > >Thank you. > > > >David > >_______________________________________________ > >Web4lib mailing list > >Web4lib@webjunction.org > >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From taniaf at brandeis.edu Thu Aug 30 14:18:47 2007 From: taniaf at brandeis.edu (Tania Fersenheim) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:26:39 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Position Announcement - Digital Initiatives Librarian, Library and Technology Services, Brandeis University Message-ID: <46D70A07.5010905@brandeis.edu> Position Announcement - Digital Initiatives Librarian, Library and Technology Services, Brandeis University Job ID Number 200440 Brandeis University, a private research university in the metropolitan Boston area, seeks an enthusiastic, innovative and service-oriented Digital Initiatives Librarian to serve as an integral member of the Web and Library Application Services (WALAS) team. The WALAS team is part of the larger Library and Technology Services (LTS) organization. LTS encompasses the functions traditionally separated into Library Services and IT services, and leverages the strengths of each to provide high quality, accessible, and reliable systems and services to support learning and research activities, operational decision-making, planning, and analysis. Responsibilities The Digital Initiatives Librarian plays a leading role in technical planning, technical implementation, management and support of digital repository applications and projects. The Digital Initiatives Librarian is responsible for implementation and support of digital collections using applications such as DSpace and supporting tools. S/he works as a member of the team on planning and coordinating digital archiving of digitized and born-digital materials and drives technical activities associated with Brandeis' institutional repository including metadata standards, technical workflow and quality control. S/he works with technologists and with users of campus-wide applications to integrate digital collections and other library resources. This position works collaboratively with LTS departments to develop digital solutions in support of research, teaching and outreach efforts for the Brandeis University community. Qualifications ALA accredited MLS or MLIS degree and 3 to 5 years of experience. Demonstrated experience implementing and supporting digital collections and services including the following: electronic theses and dissertations, archives and special collections, manuscripts, photographs, and audio and video recordings. Experience with digital repository software such as DSpace or similar applications. Technical proficiency with Unix / Linux, XHTML, XML, XSLT, CSS, Oracle / SQL, PERL or PHP. Familiarity with Java, Javascript and experience with metadata standards including Dublin Core and MARC. Familiarity with OAI and Open URL standards and digital harvesting. Strong organizational, project management skills and communication skills. Experience in a research library or academic library. How To Apply Please apply directly online at http://www.brandeis.edu/humanresources/jobs.php . You will choose to apply as an "External Candidate". Please use the Job ID number listed above to quickly locate the appropriate job listing. Once you have located the desired job, click Apply Now. Closing Statement Brandeis University operates under an affirmative action plan and encourages minorities, women, disabled individuals, and special disabled and Vietnam-era and other eligible veterans to apply. It is the policy of the University not to discriminate against any applicant or employee on the basis of race, ancestry, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, age, genetic information, national origin, disability, Vietnam-era Veteran, special disabled veteran and other eligible veterans, or on the basis of any other legally protected category. From wyliea at dpls.lib.or.us Thu Aug 30 14:38:43 2007 From: wyliea at dpls.lib.or.us (Wylie Ackerman) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:38:55 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Defend Fair Use Message-ID: <396AD432920F5645B8F26ECC47D834430234382C@exchange2k.dpls.lib.or.us> Interesting artcle on arstechnica: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070828-google-microsoft-backed-gr oup-ready-to-defend-fair-use.html >From the article: "Earlier this month, the Computer & Communications Industry Association filed a complaint with the FTC alleging that professional sports leagues, Hollywood studios, and book publishers were all using copyright notices that misrepresented the law. Now, the group has launched a web site called Defend Fair Use that shows they are serious about making the complaint stick." The website referenced in the article is here: http://www.defendfairuse.org/ Wylie Ackerman eServices Manager Deschutes Public Library 541-312-1042 www.dpls.lib.or.us wyliea@dpls.lib.or.us From bergeron at macalester.edu Thu Aug 30 14:40:46 2007 From: bergeron at macalester.edu (Deb Bergeron) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:40:51 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Message-ID: <15031830.1188499246698.JavaMail.oracle@ocs-1.macalester.edu> David, I agree with the folks who chimed in with looking outside library-land and not to be discouraged. I don't know what your resume looks like, but you could re-write it to focus on your web development in tandem with your archivist position--if you haven't already done that. Volunteering in library-related associations also works. In addition to ALA your state should have a state-wide library association. Most often they will need web people to help maintain their sites or part of their sites. You could be the 'webmaster' for the association or a division of it. Good Hunting! Deb Deb Bergeron System Administrator User Support CLIC Cooperating Libraries in Consortium 1619 Dayton Ave. Suite 204A Saint Paul, MN 55104 tel: 651-644-3878 fax:651-644-6258 email: bergeron@macalester.edu --- Original Message --- > Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how each piece > of advice can help. > > The hardest part for me so far has been getting potential > employers to > see beyond the archivist role I have held for many years. I > think > several assume--and a few have expressed directly to me--that > I am an > archivist who worked on web projects, not enough experience > or > qualifications for their particular Web Librarian / Web > Development > needs. Breaking free from this will require an image change > and, as > many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. Funny, I > get caught > up with creating web presences for others, but I forget about > myself. > > I agree with those who suggested I look beyond library-land. > I really > like academic environments, and working in the library as part > of a > Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much luck. Sounds > like a > good reason to look elsewhere. > > While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I suspect more > programming knowledge is in order, and I think the languages > suggested > are a good start > > Besides web design, the Web as a communication, collaboration, > knowledge sharing, community-building tool fascinates me. > > Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. I think there > are > others in the same boat who could benefit from this advice. > > Thank you!! > > David > > On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run > > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web > > development work and also see around a thousand library job postings > > a year. My 2 cents are: > > > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and > > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want > > it. Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of > > qualifications for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant > > volumes about this, but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. > > > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also don't be afraid to look > > outside of library-land for positions that may be equally rewarding > > and better paying. > > > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build something! The site that > > I run has been an incredible learning experience, and continues to > > scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a useful service to a > > lot of people in the area. > > > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language that works for you > > and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted language well it's fairly > > easy to at least understand what's happening in another. I'm going > > to have to put in my plug for Python, which is very easy to learn and > > works well for everything from simple procedural programming, to OOP > > and even Functional Programming. > > > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma that getting low wages > > is okay and just part of life, it's not. > > > > --Will > > > > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > > >Colleagues, > > > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the > > >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and > > >website management in a library and/or information center environment. > > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, > > >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was > > >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the > > >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing > > >websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to > > >archival material. > > > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal > > >web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift > > >further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more > > >connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > > > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development > > >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that > > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough > > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives > > >because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I > > >have been typecast, it seems. > > > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I > > >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online > > >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real > > >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to > > >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a > > >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my > > >next step. > > > > > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me > > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > > > >Thank you. > > > > > >David > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Web4lib mailing list > > >Web4lib@webjunction.org > > >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ David, I agree with the folks who chimed in with looking outside library-land and not to be discouraged. I don't know what your resume looks like, but you could re-write it to focus on your web development in tandem with your archivist position--if you haven't already done that. Volunteering in library-related associations also works. In addition to ALA your state should have a state-wide library association. Most often they will need web people to help maintain their sites or part of their sites. You could be the 'webmaster' for the association or a division of it. Good Hunting! Deb From kcoyle at kcoyle.net Thu Aug 30 14:55:24 2007 From: kcoyle at kcoyle.net (Karen Coyle) Date: Thu Aug 30 14:57:19 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Defend Fair Use In-Reply-To: <396AD432920F5645B8F26ECC47D834430234382C@exchange2k.dpls.lib.or.us> References: <396AD432920F5645B8F26ECC47D834430234382C@exchange2k.dpls.lib.or.us> Message-ID: <46D7129C.4020502@kcoyle.net> I blogged this with some description and commentary at: http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2007/08/deceptive-copyright-notices.html It's a rather odd coalition for the action, but I do very much like their goals. kc Wylie Ackerman wrote: > Interesting artcle on arstechnica: > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070828-google-microsoft-backed-gr > oup-ready-to-defend-fair-use.html > >>From the article: > "Earlier this month, the Computer & Communications Industry Association > filed a complaint with the FTC alleging that professional sports > leagues, Hollywood studios, and book publishers were all using copyright > notices that misrepresented the law. Now, the group has launched a web > site called Defend Fair Use that shows they are serious about making the > complaint stick." > > The website referenced in the article is here: > http://www.defendfairuse.org/ > > > > Wylie Ackerman > eServices Manager > Deschutes Public Library > 541-312-1042 > www.dpls.lib.or.us > wyliea@dpls.lib.or.us > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > -- ----------------------------------- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 skype: kcoylenet fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234 ------------------------------------ From corrado at tcnj.edu Thu Aug 30 15:18:52 2007 From: corrado at tcnj.edu (Edward Corrado) Date: Thu Aug 30 15:20:49 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Blackboard Scholar- Linking to Library Resources? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D7181C.6050300@tcnj.edu> Hi Lisa, We do not use Blackboard Scholar, but we have integrated our new acquitions into our home grown course managem,ent system using RSS. Since I haven't used Blackboard Scholar, I'm not sure how this works with it, but if it can take RSS feeds, it should. You can read about our project at either: * Moulaison, Heather L. and Edward M. Corrado. (2007) Analog v. Google in the CMS: RSS Feeds to the Rescue! In Hugh A. Thompson (Ed.), /Sailing into the Future - Charting Our Destiny: Proceedings of the ACRL 13th National Conference, March 29 - April 1, 2007/. Chicago: Association of College and Research Libraries. Available at: http://www.tcnj.edu/~corrado/scholarly/acrl2007/moulaison_corrado.html * Corrado, Edward M. and Heather L. Moulaison (2006). Integrating RSS Feeds of New Books into the Campus Course Management System. /Computers in Libraries/, /26/(9). Retrieved from http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/oct06/Corrado_Moulaison.shtml For more details, see: http://www.tcnj.edu/~library/rss/ and http://www.tcnj.edu/~library/rss/rss_technicaldetails.html If you interested in the CiL article, you may wish to find either a print copy or look for a pdf in a database as it is more readable (not to mention prettier) than the HTML version on the Infotoday Web site. Edward Pons, Lisa (ponslm) said the following on 08/30/2007 1:55 PM: > > Have any libraries out there integrated their holdings, either in > catalog or other places, in with Blackboard Scholar? Any plans to? If > so, what tools are you using? Any other info? > > Thanks! > Lisa Pons-Haitz > Webmaster > University Libraries > University of Cincinnati > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Edward M. Corrado http://www.tcnj.edu/~corrado/ Systems Librarian The College of New Jersey 403E TCNJ Library PO Box 7718 Ewing, NJ 08628-0718 Tel: 609.771.3337 Fax: 609.637.5177 Email: corrado@tcnj.edu From NCormia at wmcnet.org Thu Aug 30 16:40:28 2007 From: NCormia at wmcnet.org (Nicole Cormia) Date: Thu Aug 30 16:40:57 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Message-ID: Colleagues, I've also been transforming myself with taking some online course work in web design. Throughout my education and experience as a librarian, I've been most interested in the technology side of librarianship. Right now I've volunteered to do some web design for the past couple of years. This has involved library committee responsibilities. I've also considered taking extra course work to guide me in the career direction of a systems librarian. Although I'm a medical librarian, I believe my skill sets, continuing education, and experience would allow me to explore and become an expert in any other area of librarianship I want to pursue. I've heard it's a harder sell, but not impossible. I wonder if the biggest obstacle is culture. If one has the extra course work, experience and interest, why would a library facility from a different culture such as academic, public, law, or medical discourage a fellow colleague from pursuing other interesting areas of librarianship. I would like to see this discussion continue on the list. I wonder if other professional library listservs have had this discussion. Thanks, Nicole Nicole Cormia, MLS, MS Medical Librarian Physician and Staff Health Science Library Community Medical Library Wyoming Medical Center 1233 East 2nd Street Casper, WY 82601 Phone: 307-577-2450 Fax: 307-577-7858 Email: ncormia@wmcnet.org >>> "David Kemper" 08/30/07 08:04AM >>> Colleagues, I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and website management in a library and/or information center environment. I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to archival material. Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that 1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I have been typecast, it seems. I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my next step. Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me off the list at siansleep@gmail.com Thank you. David _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From TEdelblute at anaheim.net Thu Aug 30 16:57:58 2007 From: TEdelblute at anaheim.net (Thomas Edelblute) Date: Thu Aug 30 17:03:32 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions References: Message-ID: If you are looking for a thin client that just uses a web browser, I would go for something with Windows XP Embeded like the HP t5720. I do not like Windows CE because it does not run java apps well enough to some of our databases like the library catalog and Mitchell's Auto-Repair. It works well with the Roaming Profiles and Group Policies from an AD server. ________________________________ From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Gem Stone-Logan Sent: Wed 8/29/2007 8:14 AM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions My manager is looking for opinions from organizations that are either moving toward or away from thin clients. We are specifically looking at using them for our public patron computers. We've completed an evaluation for our district but would like to know what other libraries are doing. If you wouldn't mind discussing this subject with her, send me an email and I'll forward it. Thanks, Gem Stone-Logan Weld Library District http://www.mylibrary.us/ gemstonelogan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAWS. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. From kkaltsas at winona.edu Thu Aug 30 18:08:08 2007 From: kkaltsas at winona.edu (Konstantin Kaltsas) Date: Thu Aug 30 18:08:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Userful has a product out there that is supposed to run 10 heads from one tower. I don't have any experience with it, but it does look interesting. Konstantin Kaltsas Library Technician - Evening Supervisor Winona State University (507) 457-2642 kkaltsas@winona.edu On 8/30/07 3:57 PM, "Thomas Edelblute" wrote: > If you are looking for a thin client that just uses a web browser, I would go > for something with Windows XP Embeded like the HP t5720. I do not like > Windows CE because it does not run java apps well enough to some of our > databases like the library catalog and Mitchell's Auto-Repair. It works well > with the Roaming Profiles and Group Policies from an AD server. > > ________________________________ > > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Gem Stone-Logan > Sent: Wed 8/29/2007 8:14 AM > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions > > > > My manager is looking for opinions from organizations that are either moving > toward or away from thin clients. We are specifically looking at using them > for our public patron computers. We've completed an evaluation for our > district but would like to know what other libraries are doing. If you > wouldn't mind discussing this subject with her, send me an email and I'll > forward it. > > > Thanks, > > Gem Stone-Logan > Weld Library District > http://www.mylibrary.us/ > gemstonelogan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > > > > THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH > IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, > AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAWS. If the reader of this > message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible > for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication > in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and > delete the original message immediately. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From sdeng at ccclib.org Thu Aug 30 19:18:22 2007 From: sdeng at ccclib.org (sdeng@ccclib.org) Date: Thu Aug 30 19:18:30 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <279898a50708301020o59d1bc5en1abfa4c19dc9c095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Here is a job to consider for those of you that are interested in working in a library web team. The responsibilities for the Electronic Resources Position is listed under the Library Specialist job. This position does web development projects also. http://www.ccclib.org/libraryjobs/ Stacie Deng Information Systems Programmer/Analyst Contra Costa County Library sdeng@ccclib.org "David Kemper" Sent by: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org 08/30/2007 10:24 AM To web4lib cc Subject Re: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how each piece of advice can help. The hardest part for me so far has been getting potential employers to see beyond the archivist role I have held for many years. I think several assume--and a few have expressed directly to me--that I am an archivist who worked on web projects, not enough experience or qualifications for their particular Web Librarian / Web Development needs. Breaking free from this will require an image change and, as many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. Funny, I get caught up with creating web presences for others, but I forget about myself. I agree with those who suggested I look beyond library-land. I really like academic environments, and working in the library as part of a Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much luck. Sounds like a good reason to look elsewhere. While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I suspect more programming knowledge is in order, and I think the languages suggested are a good start Besides web design, the Web as a communication, collaboration, knowledge sharing, community-building tool fascinates me. Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. I think there are others in the same boat who could benefit from this advice. Thank you!! David On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web Development Librarian, I do run > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a fair amount of web > development work and also see around a thousand library job postings > a year. My 2 cents are: > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully believe that you (and > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian job if you want > it. Too frequently libraries want an unreasonable number of > qualifications for an equally unreasonable low pay. I could rant > volumes about this, but needless to say I think it's a poor practice. > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also don't be afraid to look > outside of library-land for positions that may be equally rewarding > and better paying. > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build something! The site that > I run has been an incredible learning experience, and continues to > scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a useful service to a > lot of people in the area. > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language that works for you > and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted language well it's fairly > easy to at least understand what's happening in another. I'm going > to have to put in my plug for Python, which is very easy to learn and > works well for everything from simple procedural programming, to OOP > and even Functional Programming. > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma that getting low wages > is okay and just part of life, it's not. > > --Will > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > >Colleagues, > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am currently in the > >archival field but would like to move into the field of web design and > >website management in a library and/or information center environment. > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. Throughout that time, > >while mixing in some archival research work and some processing, I was > >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues as the "web guy," the > >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver and Photoshop, designing > >websites, taking advantage of web technology to give greater access to > >archival material. > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from informal web guy to formal > >web professional has become stronger, as I feel my interest drift > >further away from my current field. A case in point: I often feel more > >connected by discussions occurring here than on other listservs. > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, however. > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web Services / Web Development > >Librarian positions (or something to that extent) only to be told that > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) I do not have enough > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I should remain in archives > >because I have been doing it for so long. Like a Hollywood actor, I > >have been typecast, it seems. > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch career paths effectively. I > >have taken numerous courses on web and multimedia design; online > >information organization; graphic design and others. And I have a real > >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, and how they work to > >better communications and information delivery. I am wondering if a > >few programming courses are in order? I am not sure what should be my > >next step. > > > >Your input and advice would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > >Thank you. > > > >David > >_______________________________________________ > >Web4lib mailing list > >Web4lib@webjunction.org > >http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From stubaker at northwestern.edu Fri Aug 31 09:36:28 2007 From: stubaker at northwestern.edu (Stu Baker) Date: Fri Aug 31 09:36:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Opening: Digital Repository Developer: Northwestern University Library, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: (This job posting is being sent to multiple lists; please excuse any duplication.) Senior Information Systems Architecture Engineer (Digital Repository Developer) Interested applicants need to apply online via Northwestern's eRecruit web site, referencing Job Opening ID #12083, at: JOB SUMMARY: The Northwestern University Library is engaged in a number of data repository and data management initiatives at a regional and national level. The Senior IS Architecture Engineer works in a highly collaborative environment with library colleagues and external partners on digital repository development, digital preservation, metadata architecture, digital collections management and digital services development to explore, adapt and implement emerging digital repository and data repository technologies. PRINCIPLE ACCOUNTABILITIES: - Administering, managing and supporting the library's Fedora implementation, repository infrastructure, and other digital collection management tools; - Designing, developing, implementing and maintaining tools and applications in accordance with the Open Archival Information System reference model for use in support of a digital object repository; - Applying system analysis techniques and procedures to determine software and system functional and technical specifications; - Evaluating potential commercial and open-source solutions for repository application; - Ensuring established data standards are supported in the repository for metadata management, business logic, data modeling and metadata workflow management; - Designing and testing user interfaces; - Defining and implementing programmatic interfaces with other systems in support of the repository; - Performing other related duties as required or assigned. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: - A bachelor's degree in Computer Science, Information Science, or a related field or the equivalent combination of education and experience from which comparable knowledge and abilities can be acquired; - Three or more years of significant development experience in an object oriented development environment including experience with Web Services programming in a service-oriented architecture; - Knowledge of PHP, Java, SQL, JavaScript, CSS, XML, XPATH, and XSLT; Demonstrable experience in at least two of the following areas: information exchange protocols such as OAI-PMH, SRU, and OpenURL, Metadata standards, preferably METS, MODS, MARC, Dublin Core, PREMIS, and MIX), Encoding formats such as TEI and EAD or Programmatic image processing using TIFF or JPEG2000; - Strong analytical and problem solving skills; - Excellent verbal and written communication and interpersonal skills and the ability to work successfully in a collaborative environment; - Demonstrated ability to handle multiple priorities and deadlines; - Creativity in problem solving to independently resolve technical issues as well as extrapolate from one situation to another; - Demonstrated experience with Unix Linux server platforms, related software, and basic system administration utilities. PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS: - A masters degree in Computer Science, Information Science, or related field, or the equivalent combination of education and experience from which comparable knowledge and abilities can be acquired; - Experience with IT in a higher education environment; - Experience with repository software (such as DSpace, Greenstone, or Fedora). ENVIRONMENT: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, is a major private university with an extensive library system. This includes the Northwestern University Library, three branch libraries on the Evanston Campus, and three libraries on the Chicago Campus. Northwestern University Library is a member of the Association of Research Libraries (ARL) and participates in programs of the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC). The holdings of the libraries total over 4 million volumes. See more information about the Library at: . SALARY: Dependent on qualifications and experience. TO APPLY: Interested applicants need to apply online via Northwestern's eRecruit web site, referencing Job Opening ID #12083, at: Northwestern University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. Employment eligibility verification required upon hire. -- ---- Stu Baker Head, Digital Library Systems Development @ Northwestern University 1970 Campus Drive | Room 1177 | Evanston, IL | 60208-2300 847.467.1984 From Vermeersch.Scott at mayo.edu Fri Aug 31 09:59:57 2007 From: Vermeersch.Scott at mayo.edu (Vermeersch, Scott M.) Date: Fri Aug 31 10:03:38 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thin clients for Internet only workstations has worked well for us. We have been using a Windows Terminal server that serves 60+ thin clients for our Internet only workstations since 2000. Since implementing this system we have had 99% up time with very little maintenance on our part. All maintenance is done on the server and we rarely need to touch the thin clients. In the 7 years we have had this system in place our support for the 60+ computers has gone from several hours a week to an hour or two a month, and aside from a couple of thin clients having a hardware issue we have not had to replace any of the thin clients because of obsolescence. We were on a 3 year replacement cycle for the "normal" computers we had in place, so we have not only saved on support costs but also hardware costs. The only complaint we have had is when a patron visits a heavily animated web site, the thin client screen seems to blink as each frame is drawn and sent to the thin client. If you want the full details please feel free to email me direct. Scott Vermeersch Computer Systems Analyst Mayo Medical Library -----Original Message----- From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Konstantin Kaltsas Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:08 PM To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions Userful has a product out there that is supposed to run 10 heads from one tower. I don't have any experience with it, but it does look interesting. Konstantin Kaltsas Library Technician - Evening Supervisor Winona State University (507) 457-2642 kkaltsas@winona.edu On 8/30/07 3:57 PM, "Thomas Edelblute" wrote: > If you are looking for a thin client that just uses a web browser, I > would go for something with Windows XP Embeded like the HP t5720. I > do not like Windows CE because it does not run java apps well enough > to some of our databases like the library catalog and Mitchell's > Auto-Repair. It works well with the Roaming Profiles and Group Policies from an AD server. > > ________________________________ > > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Gem Stone-Logan > Sent: Wed 8/29/2007 8:14 AM > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions > > > > My manager is looking for opinions from organizations that are either > moving toward or away from thin clients. We are specifically looking > at using them for our public patron computers. We've completed an > evaluation for our district but would like to know what other > libraries are doing. If you wouldn't mind discussing this subject > with her, send me an email and I'll forward it. > > > Thanks, > > Gem Stone-Logan > Weld Library District > http://www.mylibrary.us/ > gemstonelogan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > > > > > THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY > TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS > PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE > LAWS. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or > the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ _______________________________________________ Web4lib mailing list Web4lib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From mbfaccioli at yahoo.com Fri Aug 31 10:29:48 2007 From: mbfaccioli at yahoo.com (Mary Beth Faccioli) Date: Fri Aug 31 10:29:54 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <7b73f7910708301111r7170e7f1h6dcc44ce342f119a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <876618.67783.qm@web56702.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi David, My success has come from being willing to work in other library positions, and encouraging job creep in the web arena. Example: I was charged with putting a print procedures manual online as part of my responsibilities as a trainer. I noticed that the staff that used this manual, who happen to be located all over the state, had issues with communication and feeling isolated. I developed an intranet that included the online procedures manual, but also allowed for additional information sharing, discussion, etc. I built it with Mambo (now Joomla). So when I apply for jobs I don?t just say I have Joomla experience ? I talk about how my web and other technical skills have been used to creatively address and solve problems in an organization. I think it is important to play as others are recommending, but I believe you need experience in context in the way I'm describing. The suggestion to work in a smaller library is a very good one ? more likely to be able to leverage the job creep in such a setting because there is often this kind of need. They are rarely looking for the kind of uber web programming and other skills that larger universities tend to ask for. I don't believe that having additional web responsibilities added to your non-web job is being taken advantage of - I think one is being given an opportunity to develop skills in context in a way that will apply to other jobs. It is how I've done what you're asking. There is so much happening in the web arena related to archives ? perhaps you can beef this up a bit, since you mention you have done it some in the past. E.g. get DSpace or another repository system going, digitize a bunch of material and make it available, etc. Build a bridge from your archival experience to more of the web stuff in this way. A possible approach? Best of luck! Mary Beth Faccioli, MLIS Training Consultant, Colorado State Library Web Support Specialist, EDUCAUSE --- Dan Kammer wrote: > Another possibility might be to initially go to a > smaller environment where > there is an unfulfilled need in this area. At my > last job (total library > staff was 12) my title was "Reference Librarian" but > I was able to become > the web person and redesign the site and gain > experience. At my current job > (campus of 2,000 students), and in the midst of a > campus-wide financial > crunch, there was a vacancy for the campus webmaster > position and I > essentially volunteered to take on these duties. I > now lead the campus web > group and am learning details of networking, LAMP > and CMS's. Of course I > realize I'm being taken advantage of as these are > duties way above and > beyond my regular job, but it does fulfill my desire > to be involved in these > areas and in the long run believe it will benefit > the library as I become > more knowledgeable. > > Dan > > > > On 8/30/07, David Kemper > wrote: > > > > Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how > each piece of advice can > > help. > > > > The hardest part for me so far has been getting > potential employers to > > see beyond the archivist role I have held for many > years. I think > > several assume--and a few have expressed directly > to me--that I am an > > archivist who worked on web projects, not enough > experience or > > qualifications for their particular Web Librarian > / Web Development > > needs. Breaking free from this will require an > image change and, as > > many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. > Funny, I get caught > > up with creating web presences for others, but I > forget about myself. > > > > I agree with those who suggested I look beyond > library-land. I really > > like academic environments, and working in the > library as part of a > > Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much > luck. Sounds like a > > good reason to look elsewhere. > > > > While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I > suspect more > > programming knowledge is in order, and I think the > languages suggested > > are a good start > > > > Besides web design, the Web as a communication, > collaboration, > > knowledge sharing, community-building tool > fascinates me. > > > > Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. > I think there are > > others in the same boat who could benefit from > this advice. > > > > Thank you!! > > > > David > > > > On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > > > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web > Development Librarian, I do run > > > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a > fair amount of web > > > development work and also see around a thousand > library job postings > > > a year. My 2 cents are: > > > > > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully > believe that you (and > > > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian > job if you want > > > it. Too frequently libraries want an > unreasonable number of > > > qualifications for an equally unreasonable low > pay. I could rant > > > volumes about this, but needless to say I think > it's a poor practice. > > > > > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also > don't be afraid to look > > > outside of library-land for positions that may > be equally rewarding > > > and better paying. > > > > > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build > something! The site that > > > I run has been an incredible learning > experience, and continues to > > > scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a > useful service to a > > > lot of people in the area. > > > > > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language > that works for you > > > and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted > language well it's fairly > > > easy to at least understand what's happening in > another. I'm going > > > to have to put in my plug for Python, which is > very easy to learn and > > > works well for everything from simple procedural > programming, to OOP > > > and even Functional Programming. > > > > > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma > that getting low wages > > > is okay and just part of life, it's not. > > > > > > --Will > > > > > > > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > > > >Colleagues, > > > > > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am > currently in the > > > >archival field but would like to move into the > field of web design and > > > >website management in a library and/or > information center environment. > > > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. > Throughout that time, > > > >while mixing in some archival research work and > some processing, I was > > > >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues > as the "web guy," the > > > >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver > and Photoshop, designing > > > >websites, taking advantage of web technology to > give greater access to > > > >archival material. > > > > > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from > informal web guy to formal > > > >web professional has become stronger, as I feel > my interest drift > > > >further away from my current field. A case in > point: I often feel more > > > >connected by discussions occurring here than on > other listservs. > > > > > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, > however. > > > > > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web > Services / Web Development > > > >Librarian positions (or something to that > extent) only to be told that > > > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) > I do not have enough > > > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I > should remain in archives > > > >because I have been doing it for so long. Like > a Hollywood actor, I > > > >have been typecast, it seems. > > > > > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch > career paths effectively. I > > > >have taken numerous courses on web and > multimedia design; online > > > >information organization; graphic design and > others. And I have a real > > > >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, > and how they work to > > > >better communications and information delivery. > I am wondering if a > > > >few programming courses are in order? I am not > sure what should be my > > > >next step. > > > > > > > >Your input and advice would be much > appreciated. Feel free to email me > > > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > > > > > >Thank you. > > > > > > > >David > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Web4lib mailing list > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From rboulton at stcharleslibrary.org Fri Aug 31 10:54:36 2007 From: rboulton at stcharleslibrary.org (Robin) Date: Fri Aug 31 10:54:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites In-Reply-To: <4c5c30910708291948n6ef01b57qf46bac04d90c319c@mail.gmail.com> References: <46D56FCA.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5705F.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57171.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D5721A.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57276.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <46D57374.B59E.0067.0@lib.iastate.edu> <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23B5@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> <4c5c30910708291948n6ef01b57qf46bac04d90c319c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0915B294B960404EA185F29E942D18CD23FE@svs-ex1.scplnet.lib.il.us> Sharon, thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't explored very much. That is what I meant. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Foster [mailto:fostersm1@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:48 PM To: Robin Cc: Gerry Mckiernan; lita-l@ala1.ala.org; asis-L@asis.org; web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites Not sure if this is what you mean by direct interaction, but LibraryThing does have discussion forums and groups of users with special interests: librarians, science fiction fans, etc. Users can create a new group, start a new topic, and reply to other posts. On 8/29/07, Robin wrote: > The most visible difference I perceive is that one allows direct, > unstructured communication/interaction between members (e.g. MySpace), > while the other allows you to publish your information and make it > accessible to others, but doesn't support direct interaction (e.g. > LibraryThing). > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Gerry Mckiernan > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:24 PM > To: lita-l@ala1.ala.org; asis-L@asis.org; web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Web4lib] Social Networking Sites | Social Bookmarking Sites > > ***APOLOGIES FOR RECEIPT OF DUPLICATE POSTINGS*** > > Friends/ > > ---Question Of The Day--- > > ***When is a Social Networking Site A Social Networking Site?*** > > >From Wikipedia: > > _Social Network Service_ > A social network service focuses on the building and verifying of online > social networks for communities of people who share interests and > activities, or who are interested in exploring the interests and > activities of others, and which necessitates the use of software. > > Most social network services are primarily web based and provide a > collection of various ways for users to interact, such as chat, > messaging, email, video, voice chat, file sharing, blogging, discussion > groups, and so on. > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking#Business_applications ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- > > _Social Bookmarking_ > > On a social bookmarking system or network, users store lists of Internet > resources that they find useful. These lists can be accessible to the > public by users of a specific network or website. Other users with > similar interests can view the links by topic, category, tags, or even > randomly. > > Other than web page bookmarks, services specialized to a specific > subject or format - feeds, books, videos, shopping items, map locations, > wineries, etc. - can be found. > > [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_bookmarking ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------- > Both Are Social Media, But What is the Distinguishing Difference [If > There Are Real Differences?] > > What Characteristics Do *YOU* Believe Make a Social Networking > Site/Service a Social Networking Site/Service ? > > Thanks For Considering !!! > > /Gerry > > Gerry McKiernan > Associate Professor > Science and Technology Librarian > Iowa State University Library > Ames IA 5011 > > !!! Social Networking is People !!! > [ http://www.facebook.com/p/Gerry_McKiernan/16926735 ] > > Iowa: Where the Tall Corn Flows and the (North)West Wind Blows ... > [ http://alternativeenergyblogs.blogspot.com/ ] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From robert at rlwconsulting.com Fri Aug 31 11:17:02 2007 From: robert at rlwconsulting.com (Robert L. Williams) Date: Fri Aug 31 11:20:43 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D830EE.5070008@rlwconsulting.com> Gem: I have presented introductory workshop sessions for small libraries on using terminal services (aka, thin-client technology) in a public access setting and found in my experience that terminal services provides an excellent platform for reducing ongoing costs/support for libraries. In my setup, I've used a commodity (consumer) low-end desktop computer to serve up to 15 recycled computers acting as thin clients (surprisingly, works incredibly well). Obviously, using a "real" server platform with a single- or dual-processor Xeon dual-core server with lots of RAM will allow you to serve many, many clients. Scott V., in his response earlier, demonstrates that result. The one sticky point with thin clients is motion video (whether online 3d gaming or simple video streams). Full motion video will bog down a terminal server and/or its network connection. In my mind, there are a couple of ways of handling video in a public access setting. First, if you allow video streams, be sure to analyze your current network environment. Gigabit networking will provide some relief from network congestions; the network link from your terminal server to your switch absolutely must be a gigabit link. Second, if you have the capability (using a proxy server, for example) of blocking specific types of files at specific client locations, you can designate certain stations to support video and restrict it on others. This way you can limit your performance hit. Third, you can also look at a multi-headed (multi-user) solution such as Userful's DiscoverStation (mentioned already). This works a bit differently than terminal services and limits the total users to about 8 or 10 per computer, requiring multiple host computers in a larger environment. Otherwise, for general web surfing, e-mail, and office functions (what most people use), terminal services provides a very, very good solution for minimizing technology costs. I highly recommend looking at its benefits for your library. You can implement a Windows Terminal Server solution ($, and there's a 180-day evaluation version of Windows Server 2003 you can download--you'll be able to implement a Windows Terminal Server and experiment with it for 120 days before it times out--http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/bb430831.aspx), a Citrix solution ($$$), or investigate the benefits of open source software ($0)--there is currently a Linux distribution slanted toward education environments with Linux terminal services available: Edubuntu. It's free to download and test/review/implement (http://www.edubuntu.org/Download). It uses LTSP, the Linux Terminal Server Project, which you can add to any Linux flavor. Good luck with your project! --Robert ******************************************** Robert L. Williams Technology Trainer/Consultant Williams Consulting 4206 Dakin Place Corpus Christi, TX 78411 361-855-2802 http://www.rlwconsulting.com/ Gem Stone-Logan wrote: > My manager is looking for opinions from organizations that are either moving > toward or away from thin clients. We are specifically looking at using them > for our public patron computers. We've completed an evaluation for our > district but would like to know what other libraries are doing. If you > wouldn't mind discussing this subject with her, send me an email and I'll > forward it. > > > Thanks, > > Gem Stone-Logan > Weld Library District > http://www.mylibrary.us/ > gemstonelogan@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Fri Aug 31 11:35:24 2007 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew) Date: Fri Aug 31 11:35:48 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thin Client Opinions In-Reply-To: <46D830EE.5070008@rlwconsulting.com> References: <46D830EE.5070008@rlwconsulting.com> Message-ID: <46D8353C.9020400@waterford.lib.mi.us> We run a pair of Windows 2003 servers to support OPACs terminals at two separate locations and it works great. I also had purchased some terminals to test out for replacing Internet and word processing PCs. At the time I tested them, the issues I ran into included: 1) Video and multimedia support 2) Support for USB devices 3) Support for CD burning If I had done this say 3 or 4 years ago, I could probably have made that work since #1 was really the only issue. But over the past couple of years, the demand and expectation by patrons for support for #2 and #3 has really grown significantly. I know that there are terminals that include USB ports and can be purchased to include CD and floppy drives. I also think that the more recent versions of MS's RDP client have decent support for redirect to peripherals, USB devices and audio. But to make those work well, the terminals that you have to purchase to include support for 1 - 3 approach the price of an equivalent PC. With tools like Active Directory and DeepFreeze, the hands on maintenance required to keep up PCs isn't as onerous as it once was. It just didn't seem like it was worth the trade-off, especially since I couldn't predict what new technology patrons would want/need in the next couple of years. For those who have gone the terminal route for public Internet computers, how well do they support 1 - 3 and how do you handle demand for those? Thanks, Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Robert L. Williams wrote: > Gem: > > I have presented introductory workshop sessions for small libraries on > using terminal services (aka, thin-client technology) in a public access > setting and found in my experience that terminal services provides an > excellent platform for reducing ongoing costs/support for libraries. In > my setup, I've used a commodity (consumer) low-end desktop computer to > serve up to 15 recycled computers acting as thin clients (surprisingly, > works incredibly well). Obviously, using a "real" server platform with a > single- or dual-processor Xeon dual-core server with lots of RAM will > allow you to serve many, many clients. Scott V., in his response > earlier, demonstrates that result. > > The one sticky point with thin clients is motion video (whether online > 3d gaming or simple video streams). Full motion video will bog down a > terminal server and/or its network connection. In my mind, there are a > couple of ways of handling video in a public access setting. First, if > you allow video streams, be sure to analyze your current network > environment. Gigabit networking will provide some relief from network > congestions; the network link from your terminal server to your switch > absolutely must be a gigabit link. Second, if you have the capability > (using a proxy server, for example) of blocking specific types of files > at specific client locations, you can designate certain stations to > support video and restrict it on others. This way you can limit your > performance hit. Third, you can also look at a multi-headed (multi-user) > solution such as Userful's DiscoverStation (mentioned already). This > works a bit differently than terminal services and limits the total > users to about 8 or 10 per computer, requiring multiple host computers > in a larger environment. > > Otherwise, for general web surfing, e-mail, and office functions (what > most people use), terminal services provides a very, very good solution > for minimizing technology costs. I highly recommend looking at its > benefits for your library. You can implement a Windows Terminal Server > solution ($, and there's a 180-day evaluation version of Windows Server > 2003 you can download--you'll be able to implement a Windows Terminal > Server and experiment with it for 120 days before it times > out--http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/bb430831.aspx), a > Citrix solution ($$$), or investigate the benefits of open source > software ($0)--there is currently a Linux distribution slanted toward > education environments with Linux terminal services available: Edubuntu. > It's free to download and test/review/implement > (http://www.edubuntu.org/Download). It uses LTSP, the Linux Terminal > Server Project, which you can add to any Linux flavor. > > Good luck with your project! > > --Robert > > ******************************************** > Robert L. Williams > Technology Trainer/Consultant > Williams Consulting > 4206 Dakin Place > Corpus Christi, TX 78411 > 361-855-2802 > http://www.rlwconsulting.com/ > > > Gem Stone-Logan wrote: >> My manager is looking for opinions from organizations that are either >> moving >> toward or away from thin clients. We are specifically looking at >> using them >> for our public patron computers. We've completed an evaluation for our >> district but would like to know what other libraries are doing. If you >> wouldn't mind discussing this subject with her, send me an email and >> I'll >> forward it. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gem Stone-Logan >> Weld Library District >> http://www.mylibrary.us/ >> gemstonelogan@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Web4lib mailing list >> Web4lib@webjunction.org >> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ From julied at lrl.leg.mn Fri Aug 31 12:20:08 2007 From: julied at lrl.leg.mn (julied@lrl.leg.mn) Date: Fri Aug 31 12:22:09 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Web4lib Digest, Vol 29, Issue 28 Message-ID: I will be out of the library from Monday Aug. 27th until Tuesday Sept. 4th. If you have a reference question, please e-mail refdesk@lrl.leg.mn or call 651-296-8338. From nina.mchale at cudenver.edu Fri Aug 31 13:06:43 2007 From: nina.mchale at cudenver.edu (McHale, Nina) Date: Fri Aug 31 13:09:59 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Hey, look, a job for David! Message-ID: <38B838B2210D8749B82E5914B5E3FA5E06F52F52@kelso.cudenver.edu> So, David, how do you feel about Michigan? East Lansing is lovely! And you're used to cold winters, right? :) A position like the one just posted (web/reference combined) might be the way to transition into a new web-focussed career. One word of caution, though: I held a similar position before coming to Auraria, and I ended up not liking it. (The position specifically, not the place, if any of my former colleagues are reading this!) It did, however, sucessfully transition me from reference to systems. It's my feeling that if you're responsible for the "entire web presence" of a large institution's library(ies), that ought to be all that you're doing. I didn't feel like I had time to do everything that I needed to do for reference (which included desk time, a bit of collection development, and a fair bit of instruction) and give the web site the attention it really needed in terms of maintenance and upkeep. I jumped from web project to web project with no time for basic cleanup, maintenance, and upgrades. The web site was 30% of my job description, and it took up 90% of my time. My dorky web analogy for all of this is that a combined reference/web job is like web design with table-based layouts: it works okay, and it's good enough for a small site. A web-only position in systems is like XHTML+CSS web design: by separating the content from the structure, your end product is more flexible, easier to maintain and upgrade, and is more standards-compliant. My current 100% web job is a better fit for me. I do miss contact with the students--and it's obviously crucial for the web person to understand their needs--but I find ways to sneak in reference-y activities here and there, like staffing the info desk we put by the entrance for the first 3 weeks of each semester and doing usability testing. Nina Nina McHale, MA/MSLS Assistant Professor, Web Librarian Auraria Library Serving the University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center-Downtown Campus, Metropolitan State College and the Community College of Denver 1100 Lawrence Street Denver, Colorado 80204 303-556-4729 nina.mchale@cudenver.edu From sbaldwin at nngov.com Fri Aug 31 16:07:28 2007 From: sbaldwin at nngov.com (Sue Baldwin) Date: Fri Aug 31 16:08:20 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] need database to collect our statistics Message-ID: <003401c7ec0a$9b627ea0$254f050a@NNPLS.ORG> Hi, We are looking for a database product we can use to collect all of our monthly statistics. We currently have a complicated Excel program that our branches use to input their monthly statistics. This program was written by an outside person and we have to contract with her every time we want to make a change to what we collect. What do other libraries, especially public libraries, use to collect their statistics?? Is there a company out there that has created a program libraries can use and customize?? We are in desperate need of new product that we can customize and query as needed. Any suggestions?? We are becoming desperate for something new. Thanks, Sue Sue Baldwin Technology Librarian Newport News Public Library System 700 Town Center Drive Suite 300 Newport News, VA 23606 757-926-1350 voice 757-926-1365 fax sbaldwin@nngov.com From f-cervone at northwestern.edu Fri Aug 31 16:07:54 2007 From: f-cervone at northwestern.edu (H. Frank Cervone) Date: Fri Aug 31 16:08:23 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Job Opening: Information Architecture and Design Specialist: Northwestern University Library, Evanston, IL USA Message-ID: <000f01c7ec0a$9dffe5d0$98cb6981@library.northwestern.edu> (This job posting is being sent to multiple lists; please excuse any duplication.) Senior Web Applications/Software Developer (Information Architecture and Design Specialist) Interested applicants must apply online via Northwestern's eRecruit website, referencing job opening ID #12084, at: The Northwestern University Library invites applications for the position of Senior Web Applications/Software Developer (Information Architecture and Design Specialist). The person filling this position will utilize web, graphics, usability, and programming knowledge and skills to create and enhance web-based services provided by the University Library. Working as part of a team within the IT division as well as cross-cutting implementation groups throughout the Library system, this position will have a primary role in creating a dynamic and interactive online environment that facilitates the mission of the University Library in providing an integrated research and learning environment. The person in this position will take a lead role in all aspects of web design and development such as defining interaction designs and functionality based on sound usability principles and research. Responsibilities: - Advocate for a culture of user-centered service throughout the organization - Apply principles of information architecture and usability to develop effective interfaces and navigation structures - Work with staff throughout the Library to develop a seamless web environment, integrating various library applications and services - Collaborate with library staff, faculty, and external constituencies to develop an information architecture for the University Library web site - Designs and tests user interfaces - Designs and writes programs to support integration of services and interfaces Minimum Qualifications: - Bachelor's degree in Information Architecture, Information Design, Information Studies, or Human-Computer Interaction or an equivalent combination of certification and experience - Three to five years experience designing and developing enterprise-level web-based interfaces based on diverse technologies - Demonstrated interest in the application of emerging technologies to meet the changing needs of users - Strong collaborative orientation - Excellent communication sand negotiation skills - Ability to facilitate groups representing diverse interests - Proficiency using Dreamweaver, PhotoShop, XML, HTML, CSS, Javascript and Flash - Knowledge of PHP, Java, or PERL - Demonstrated ability to handle multiple priorities and deadlines. - Creativity in problem solving to independently resolve technical issues as well as extrapolate from one situation to another. Preferred Qualifications: - Master's degree in Information Architecture, Information Design, Information Studies, or Human-Computer Interaction or an equivalent combination of certification and experience - Knowledge of XPATH, and XSLT. - Two or more years academic library experience Environment: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, is a major private university with an extensive library system. This includes the Northwestern University Library, three branch libraries on the Evanston Campus, and three libraries on the Chicago Campus. Northwestern University Library is a member of the Association of Research Libraries (ARL) and participates in programs of the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC). The holdings of the libraries total over 4 million volumes. See more information about the Library at: . Salary: Dependent on qualifications and experience. To apply: Interested applicants must apply online via Northwestern's eRecruit website, referencing job opening ID #12084, at: Northwestern University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. Employment eligibility verification required upon hire. H. Frank Cervone, Ph.D. Assistant University Librarian for Information Technology Northwestern University Library 1970 Campus Drive Evanston, IL 60208 847.491.8304 847.491.8306 (fax) From bergeron at macalester.edu Fri Aug 31 16:18:12 2007 From: bergeron at macalester.edu (Deb Bergeron) Date: Fri Aug 31 16:23:26 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] need database to collect our statistics In-Reply-To: <003401c7ec0a$9b627ea0$254f050a@NNPLS.ORG> References: <003401c7ec0a$9b627ea0$254f050a@NNPLS.ORG> Message-ID: <46D87784.5030007@macalester.edu> Sue, We currently use the III ILS It provides some nice stats and options. If you're collecting circ stats for one library, their stats work well. Deb Sue Baldwin wrote: > Hi, > > > > We are looking for a database product we can use to collect all of our > monthly statistics. We currently have a complicated Excel program that our > branches use to input their monthly statistics. This program was written by > an outside person and we have to contract with her every time we want to > make a change to what we collect. What do other libraries, especially public > libraries, use to collect their statistics?? Is there a company out there > that has created a program libraries can use and customize?? We are in > desperate need of new product that we can customize and query as needed. Any > suggestions?? We are becoming desperate for something new. > > > > Thanks, Sue > > > > Sue Baldwin > > Technology Librarian > > Newport News Public Library System > > 700 Town Center Drive Suite 300 > > Newport News, VA 23606 > > 757-926-1350 voice > > 757-926-1365 fax > > sbaldwin@nngov.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Deb Bergeron System Administrator User Support CLIC 1619 Dayton Ave. Suite 204A Saint Paul, MN 55104 T: 651.644.3878 C:651-487-7609 F:651.644.6258 bergeron@macalester.edu www.clic.edu From fostersm1 at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 16:40:00 2007 From: fostersm1 at gmail.com (Sharon Foster) Date: Fri Aug 31 16:40:06 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] need database to collect our statistics In-Reply-To: <003401c7ec0a$9b627ea0$254f050a@NNPLS.ORG> References: <003401c7ec0a$9b627ea0$254f050a@NNPLS.ORG> Message-ID: <4c5c30910708311340j5d1d733p311b6f922a0693c1@mail.gmail.com> I was an embedded software engineer before I left it to go to library school. Excel macros can't be that difficult to modify, unless they were badly written in the first place. In my opinion--and I realize that I haven't seen the program, but I have a good idea what you mean by monthly statistics--you're better off sending someone who shows a little aptitude for this sort of thing to a class or two and taking it over yourselves. On 8/31/07, Sue Baldwin wrote: > Hi, > > > > We are looking for a database product we can use to collect all of our > monthly statistics. We currently have a complicated Excel program that our > branches use to input their monthly statistics. This program was written by > an outside person and we have to contract with her every time we want to > make a change to what we collect. What do other libraries, especially public > libraries, use to collect their statistics?? Is there a company out there > that has created a program libraries can use and customize?? We are in > desperate need of new product that we can customize and query as needed. Any > suggestions?? We are becoming desperate for something new. > > > > Thanks, Sue > > > > Sue Baldwin > > Technology Librarian > > Newport News Public Library System > > 700 Town Center Drive Suite 300 > > Newport News, VA 23606 > > 757-926-1350 voice > > 757-926-1365 fax > > sbaldwin@nngov.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > -- Sharon M. Foster, B.S., J.D., 0.58 * (MLS) F/OSS Evangelist Cheshire Public Library 104 Main Street Cheshire, CT 06410 http://www.cheshirelibrary.org My library school portfolio: http://home.southernct.edu/~fosters4/ My final project for ILS655, Digital Libraries: http://www.vsa-software.com/ils655 Any opinions expressed here are entirely my own. From siansleep at gmail.com Fri Aug 31 17:06:51 2007 From: siansleep at gmail.com (David Kemper) Date: Fri Aug 31 17:06:56 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Seeking Advice: Switching Career Paths In-Reply-To: <876618.67783.qm@web56702.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <7b73f7910708301111r7170e7f1h6dcc44ce342f119a@mail.gmail.com> <876618.67783.qm@web56702.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <279898a50708311406g3c8dd557r692c78c5f93ff1ff@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, Thanks again to all those who commented, both on the list and off. I appreciate the advice...and I am relieved to hear that there is hope. As the discussion here simmers down, the thoughts and ideas will continue to percolate in my head. 1) Be active, proactive, take steps in the right direction, whether taking programming courses, building a portfolio, lending a hand in other web-related projects, setting up a personal web presence - just do something that gets me closer to the goal 2) Get involved with web-related organizations and groups One thought just came to me: Avoid falling back into the familiar job role that I have held for so long. Familiarity and comfort zones are hard to break and often trap one from moving on or switching careers. Have a great weekend. David On 8/31/07, Mary Beth Faccioli wrote: > Hi David, > > My success has come from being willing to work in > other library positions, and encouraging job creep in > the web arena. > > Example: I was charged with putting a print procedures > manual online as part of my responsibilities as a > trainer. I noticed that the staff that used this > manual, who happen to be located all over the state, > had issues with communication and feeling isolated. I > developed an intranet that included the online > procedures manual, but also allowed for additional > information sharing, discussion, etc. I built it with > Mambo (now Joomla). So when I apply for jobs I don't > just say I have Joomla experience ? I talk about how > my web and other technical skills have been used to > creatively address and solve problems in an > organization. > > I think it is important to play as others are > recommending, but I believe you need experience in > context in the way I'm describing. The suggestion to > work in a smaller library is a very good one ? more > likely to be able to leverage the job creep in such a > setting because there is often this kind of need. > They are rarely looking for the kind of uber web > programming and other skills that larger universities > tend to ask for. > > I don't believe that having additional web > responsibilities added to your non-web job is being > taken advantage of - I think one is being given an > opportunity to develop skills in context in a way that > will apply to other jobs. It is how I've done what > you're asking. > > There is so much happening in the web arena related to > archives ? perhaps you can beef this up a bit, since > you mention you have done it some in the past. E.g. > get DSpace or another repository system going, > digitize a bunch of material and make it available, > etc. Build a bridge from your archival experience to > more of the web stuff in this way. A possible > approach? > > Best of luck! > > Mary Beth Faccioli, MLIS > Training Consultant, Colorado State Library > Web Support Specialist, EDUCAUSE > > --- Dan Kammer wrote: > > > Another possibility might be to initially go to a > > smaller environment where > > there is an unfulfilled need in this area. At my > > last job (total library > > staff was 12) my title was "Reference Librarian" but > > I was able to become > > the web person and redesign the site and gain > > experience. At my current job > > (campus of 2,000 students), and in the midst of a > > campus-wide financial > > crunch, there was a vacancy for the campus webmaster > > position and I > > essentially volunteered to take on these duties. I > > now lead the campus web > > group and am learning details of networking, LAMP > > and CMS's. Of course I > > realize I'm being taken advantage of as these are > > duties way above and > > beyond my regular job, but it does fulfill my desire > > to be involved in these > > areas and in the long run believe it will benefit > > the library as I become > > more knowledgeable. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > On 8/30/07, David Kemper > > wrote: > > > > > > Thank you all for your suggestions. I can see how > > each piece of advice can > > > help. > > > > > > The hardest part for me so far has been getting > > potential employers to > > > see beyond the archivist role I have held for many > > years. I think > > > several assume--and a few have expressed directly > > to me--that I am an > > > archivist who worked on web projects, not enough > > experience or > > > qualifications for their particular Web Librarian > > / Web Development > > > needs. Breaking free from this will require an > > image change and, as > > > many have suggested, a portfolio and web presence. > > Funny, I get caught > > > up with creating web presences for others, but I > > forget about myself. > > > > > > I agree with those who suggested I look beyond > > library-land. I really > > > like academic environments, and working in the > > library as part of a > > > Web team sounds ideal, but I have had not much > > luck. Sounds like a > > > good reason to look elsewhere. > > > > > > While I have my XHTML/CSS and some JavaScript, I > > suspect more > > > programming knowledge is in order, and I think the > > languages suggested > > > are a good start > > > > > > Besides web design, the Web as a communication, > > collaboration, > > > knowledge sharing, community-building tool > > fascinates me. > > > > > > Anyway, please feel free to add more suggestions. > > I think there are > > > others in the same boat who could benefit from > > this advice. > > > > > > Thank you!! > > > > > > David > > > > > > On 8/30/07, Will Kurt wrote: > > > > Although I'm not a Web Services / Web > > Development Librarian, I do run > > > > a library job site in my spare time, so I do a > > fair amount of web > > > > development work and also see around a thousand > > library job postings > > > > a year. My 2 cents are: > > > > > > > > Jon makes some good points, although I fully > > believe that you (and > > > > everyone who's posted) can get a web librarian > > job if you want > > > > it. Too frequently libraries want an > > unreasonable number of > > > > qualifications for an equally unreasonable low > > pay. I could rant > > > > volumes about this, but needless to say I think > > it's a poor practice. > > > > > > > > The point is don't be discouraged, and also > > don't be afraid to look > > > > outside of library-land for positions that may > > be equally rewarding > > > > and better paying. > > > > > > > > To echo what everyone else is saying: build > > something! The site that > > > > I run has been an incredible learning > > experience, and continues to > > > > scale as I learn new things. Plus it provides a > > useful service to a > > > > lot of people in the area. > > > > > > > > Don't be afraid of programming, find a language > > that works for you > > > > and enjoy it. Once you know one interpreted > > language well it's fairly > > > > easy to at least understand what's happening in > > another. I'm going > > > > to have to put in my plug for Python, which is > > very easy to learn and > > > > works well for everything from simple procedural > > programming, to OOP > > > > and even Functional Programming. > > > > > > > > And finally- DO NOT accept the library dogma > > that getting low wages > > > > is okay and just part of life, it's not. > > > > > > > > --Will > > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:04 AM 8/30/2007, David Kemper wrote: > > > > >Colleagues, > > > > > > > > > >I am seeking advice on switching careers. I am > > currently in the > > > > >archival field but would like to move into the > > field of web design and > > > > >website management in a library and/or > > information center environment. > > > > >I have been an archivist for almost 6 years. > > Throughout that time, > > > > >while mixing in some archival research work and > > some processing, I was > > > > >always recognized by supervisors and colleagues > > as the "web guy," the > > > > >Webmaster, the guy tinkering with Dreamweaver > > and Photoshop, designing > > > > >websites, taking advantage of web technology to > > give greater access to > > > > >archival material. > > > > > > > > > >Lately, the desire to transform myself from > > informal web guy to formal > > > > >web professional has become stronger, as I feel > > my interest drift > > > > >further away from my current field. A case in > > point: I often feel more > > > > >connected by discussions occurring here than on > > other listservs. > > > > > > > > > >My attempts to switch gears have fallen short, > > however. > > > > > > > > > >On numerous occasions I applied for Web > > Services / Web Development > > > > >Librarian positions (or something to that > > extent) only to be told that > > > > >1) I do not not have enough web experience, 2) > > I do not have enough > > > > >technical know-how, and the most common 3) I > > should remain in archives > > > > >because I have been doing it for so long. Like > > a Hollywood actor, I > > > > >have been typecast, it seems. > > > > > > > > > >I am wondering what I should do to switch > > career paths effectively. I > > > > >have taken numerous courses on web and > > multimedia design; online > > > > >information organization; graphic design and > > others. And I have a real > > > > >keen interest in the web and the latest trends, > > and how they work to > > > > >better communications and information delivery. > > I am wondering if a > > > > >few programming courses are in order? I am not > > sure what should be my > > > > >next step. > > > > > > > > > >Your input and advice would be much > > appreciated. Feel free to email me > > > > >off the list at siansleep@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >Thank you. > > > > > > > > > >David > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >Web4lib mailing list > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC > _______________________________________________ > Web4lib mailing list > Web4lib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/ > From rbreu at cier.ca Fri Aug 31 17:32:21 2007 From: rbreu at cier.ca (Reegan D. Breu) Date: Fri Aug 31 17:33:48 2007 Subject: [Web4lib] Thesaurus Management Software Message-ID: Hello, I was wondering if anyone can recommend either open-source or commercial thesaurus management software? We're developing a controlled vocabulary for our catalogue and looking for a tool to create our own thesaurus. Thanks! Reegan D. Breu __________________________________________________________ Reegan D. Breu, MLIS, B.A. (Adv). Manager, Information Services Centre for Indigenous Environmental Resources (CIER) 3rd Floor, 245 McDermot Avenue Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3B 0S6 Phone: (204) 956-0660 ext. 400 Fax: (204) 956-1895 Email: rbreu@cier.ca Website: www.cier.ca Our mission is to assist First Nations with environmental issues and environmental capacity development. Through our programs, we take action on climate change, build sustainable communities, protect lands and waters, and conserve biodiversity.