[Web4lib] RE: Web4lib Digest, Vol 13, Issue 24[Scanned]

Stephanie Tetter stetter at mpc.edu
Fri Apr 28 13:25:30 EDT 2006


We charge 10 cents per page for B/W - we don't provide color printing in the library but it is available downstairs in the English & Study Skills Center for 50 cents per page. We charge the same for B/W and color photocopies. 

We use GoPrint and use the same cards for both Xerox copy machines and printers. GoPrint can be used with different prices at different printers...
http:/www.goprint.com
 

Stephanie Tetter
Electronic Resources/Instruction Librarian
Monterey Peninsula College
831.646.4082
 

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Open Source Image Repository Software (Rowan Brownlee)
   2. managing colour printing by the public (John Fitzgibbon)
   3. what would an ideal library look like? (Phil Shapiro)
   4. Re: managing colour printing by the public (Bill Teschek)
   5. Re: managing colour printing by the public (Michele Haytko)
   6. RE: managing colour printing by the public
      (jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu)
   7. Version 62, Scholarly Electronic Publishing Bibliography
      (Charles W. Bailey, Jr.)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:19:57 +1000
From: Rowan Brownlee <R.Brownlee at library.usyd.edu.au>
Subject: [Web4lib] RE: Open Source Image Repository Software
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No - but if you might be interested in aspects of the iSpheres project - developed at the University of Sydney.

http://www.ispheres.org/

"ISpheres provide a distributed interoperable solution to serving a range of data - from images, sound, video and text to databases and GIS datasets. Each ISphere can manage several heterogeneous collections of digital objects, translate metadata specific to each collection into a common interoperable format, and serve digital objects transformed as required by the requesting application.

ISpheres include their own web services, so they can be installed on any Internet-connected computer with the Java runtime, making their digital object collections discoverable, searchable, transformable and downloadable. Individual ISpheres are registered with a global directory at www.ispheres.org, making them and their collections discoverable.

Any ISphere can search and retrieve data from any other ISphere (subject to
authorisation) and present the results in an integrated list of resources, as well as serving data on-demand to client applications. Communication with an iSphere is through SOAP/XML."

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Greg Sennema gsennema at wlu.ca
Tue Apr 25 14:17:31 EDT 2006


Whilst taking a look at Greenstone as a possible solution for a digital image collection, I realized that Flikr has some collaboration attributes that might be helpful to our project.  Does anyone know of opensource software that would allow us to create and host an image database combining the metadata functionality of Greenstone or DSpace, the collaborative aspects of Flikr, and the customizability of WordPress?

thanks
greg


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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:06:25 +0100
From: John Fitzgibbon <jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie>
Subject: [Web4lib] managing colour printing by the public
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Hi,
 
We have received a grant from the government to install colour laser printers on the networks for the public. In our libraries, we charge for printing. Heretofore, we only provided black and white copies. Now that we have the option of colour the issue of charging different rates arises. The colour printer uses four toners (cyan, magenta, yellow, and
black) whereas the black and white printer uses one toner. This presumably will not quadruple the cost.  Few colours will require the use of all four toners and four popular colours require only one toner.
We are thinking of charging three times as much for a colour copy as for a black and white copy. Are our assumptions correct? Does colour printing cost approximately three times as much as black and white printing? We are only interested in recovering the cost of printing, not the cost of the printer.
 
Secondly, when a user clicks on print, we would like them to be given the option of choosing colour or black and white. Is there any software that will do this for us? At the moment the user has to go into properties and make the change here. It is difficult to always remember to do this and it is somewhat unfair to penalize someone for this oversight. In many of our libraries, the printer is at the circulation desk. The user goes to the circulation desk to receive their copies.
This means that we do not need a print server solution. In our larger libraries we use LPT1. Is there cheap software that will simply prompt the user to choose colour or black and white copies?
 
Regards
John

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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:09:09 -0400
From: Phil Shapiro <pshapiro at his.com>
Subject: [Web4lib] what would an ideal library look like?
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hi everyone -

     when google released the free version of sketchup, a 3D modeling program, i couldn't help but think this might be an excellent tool for youth and adults to describe the ideal library they would like to use. what shape would this library be in? and what services would be offered in the different rooms of the library?

       http://sketchup.google.com

       what could we as library practioners learn from the imaginations of those who use our libraries?  and how would the people who use our libraries feel about themselves if we asked them for their ideas?

            phil shapiro
            washington dc 

see also http://www.his.com/pshapiro/communitycontent.html


i'm thrilled to see that google has created a 3D Warehouse for 3D sketchup images to reside.  will the library community be one of the first communities to populate that warehouse? is our community a creative leader or a follower?


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:44:39 -0400
From: "Bill Teschek" <bteschek at hampton.lib.nh.us>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] managing colour printing by the public
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John,

One solution would be to have two printers available for printing -- one being your new color printer and the other being a plain B&W. Make the B&W the default printer, but have the color also available so that people wanting to use it can select it from the print dialog box. That way you are less likely to have people printing in color by mistake. You can even put the price of the copies in the printer name so that they will know what they are getting into when they select a printer.

We charge 10 cents for B&W copies and 25 for color at our library, but have never done any kind of cost study. I'd be interested to learn if someone has.

Bill Teschek
Assistant Director
Lane Memorial Library
2 Academy Ave.
Hampton, NH 03842
603.926.3368
bteschek at hampton.lib.nh.us

John Fitzgibbon wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> We have received a grant from the government to install colour laser 
> printers on the networks for the public. In our libraries, we charge 
> for printing. Heretofore, we only provided black and white copies. Now 
> that we have the option of colour the issue of charging different 
> rates arises. The colour printer uses four toners (cyan, magenta, 
> yellow, and
> black) whereas the black and white printer uses one toner. This 
> presumably will not quadruple the cost.  Few colours will require the 
> use of all four toners and four popular colours require only one toner.
> We are thinking of charging three times as much for a colour copy as 
> for a black and white copy. Are our assumptions correct? Does colour 
> printing cost approximately three times as much as black and white 
> printing? We are only interested in recovering the cost of printing, 
> not the cost of the printer.
>  
> Secondly, when a user clicks on print, we would like them to be given 
> the option of choosing colour or black and white. Is there any 
> software that will do this for us? At the moment the user has to go 
> into properties and make the change here. It is difficult to always 
> remember to do this and it is somewhat unfair to penalize someone for 
> this oversight. In many of our libraries, the printer is at the 
> circulation desk. The user goes to the circulation desk to receive their copies.
> This means that we do not need a print server solution. In our larger 
> libraries we use LPT1. Is there cheap software that will simply prompt 
> the user to choose colour or black and white copies?
>  
> Regards
> John
> 
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:32:14 -0400
From: "Michele Haytko" <michele.haytko at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Web4lib] managing colour printing by the public
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While we only have a B/W printer, a few months back, I posted a similiar "what do you charge" question and remember being amazed at the costs.  B/W averaged 10-20c a page, but colors averaged $1-$1.50 a page.  I remember someone replied that their colors were $3 per page!

Hope this helps,
~michele~

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:35:58 -0700
From: <jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Subject: RE: [Web4lib] managing colour printing by the public
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Our campus recently looked a bit at charges for printing across campus labs.
We found that on our own campus there is a very wide range of charges, from free to quite expensive.  Correspondingly there is a range of reasons given for the chosen charges, from cost recovery to saving trees to subsidizing particular instructional uses of printing or using low cost printing as a way to attract users to other services.  Those units who use cost recovery as a criterion report widely different prices, suggesting that the details of what printer you choose, what your volume is, how you account for maintenance and support, and how you manage the service can have a big impact on your actual costs.

Costs for b&w printing have been fairly stable for several years, but the cost of color printing and copying is falling quite quickly, mostly due to economies of scale and reductions in fixed costs rather than cost per page. 

Note that if you are doing color printing you may also want to consider various specialized color printing services (large formats, transparencies, glossy stock, etc.) which often have wildly different costs.  Also, toner costs vary widely depending on type of print job -- a web page with 5% spot color is very different from a full page photo.

You might also look at commercial providers for insight.  Our local Kinko's charges $.08 for single sided b&w on 8.5"x11" plain paper, and $.89 for single sided color.  I believe that most universities can get their actual costs down substantially below that for color, but I suspect the differential between mono and color is currently more like 5x than the proposed 3x.

JQ Johnson, Director                 Office: 115F Knight Library 
Center for Educational Technologies  mailto:jqj at uoregon.edu
1299 University of Oregon            phone: 1-541-346-1746; -3485 fax
Eugene, OR 97403-1299                http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jqj/



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:41:59 -0500
From: "Charles W. Bailey, Jr." <cbailey at uh.edu>
Subject: [Web4lib] Version 62, Scholarly Electronic Publishing
	Bibliography
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Version 62 of the Scholarly Electronic Publishing Bibliography is now available.  This selective bibliography presents over 2,680 articles, books, and other printed and electronic sources that are useful in understanding scholarly electronic publishing efforts on the Internet.

      http://epress.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepb.html

      http://epress.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepb.pdf

The Open Access Bibliography: Liberating Scholarly Literature with E-Prints and Open Access Journals, by the same author, provides much more in-depth coverage of the open access movement and related topics (e.g., disciplinary archives, e-prints, institutional repositories, open access journals, and the Open Archives Initiative) than SEPB does.

      http://www.digital-scholarship.com/oab/oab.htm

The Open Access Webliography (with Ho) complements the OAB, providing access to a number of Websites related to open access topics.

      http://www.digital-scholarship.com/cwb/oaw.htm


Changes in This Version

The bibliography has the following sections (revised sections are marked with an asterisk):

Table of Contents

1 Economic Issues
2 Electronic Books and Texts
      2.1 Case Studies and History*
      2.2 General Works*
      2.3 Library Issues
3  Electronic Serials
      3.1 Case Studies and History*
      3.2 Critiques
      3.3 Electronic Distribution of Printed Journals*
      3.4 General Works
      3.5 Library Issues*
      3.6 Research*
4 General Works*
5 Legal Issues
      5.1 Intellectual Property Rights*
      5.2 License Agreements
      5.3 Other Legal Issues
6  Library Issues
      6.1 Cataloging, Identifiers, Linking, and Metadata*
      6.2 Digital Libraries*
      6.3 General Works*
      6.4 Information Integrity and Preservation*
7 New Publishing Models*
8 Publisher Issues*
      8.1 Digital Rights Management*
9 Repositories, E-Prints, and OAI*
Appendix A. Related Bibliographies
Appendix B. About the Author
Appendix C. SEPB Use Statistics*

Scholarly Electronic Publishing Resources includes the following sections:

Cataloging, Identifiers, Linking, and Metadata Digital Libraries Electronic Books and Texts Electronic Serials* General Electronic Publishing*
Images*
Legal
Preservation
Publishers
Repositories, E-Prints, and OAI*
SGML and Related Standards

Further Information about SEPB

The HTML version of SEPB is designed for interactive use.  Each major section is a separate file.  There are links to sources that are freely available on the Internet.  It can be can be searched using Boolean operators.

The HTML document includes three sections not found in the Acrobat file:

(1) Scholarly Electronic Publishing Weblog (biweekly list of new resources; also available by mailing list--see second URL--and RSS Feed--see third URL)

      http://epress.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepw.htm
      http://epress.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepwlist.htm
      http://feeds.feedburner.com/ScholarlyElectronicPublishingWeblogrss

(2) Scholarly Electronic Publishing Resources (directory of over 270 related Web sites)

      http://epress.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepr.htm

(3) Archive (prior versions of the bibliography)

      http://epress.lib.uh.edu/sepb/archive/sepa.htm

The Acrobat file is designed for printing.  The printed bibliography is over 220 pages long.  The Acrobat file is over 580 KB.


Related Article

An article about the bibliography has been published in The Journal of Electronic Publishing:

http://www.press.umich.edu/jep/07-02/bailey.html
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Best Regards,
Charles

Charles W. Bailey, Jr., Assistant Dean for Digital Library Planning and Development, University of Houston Libraries

E-Mail: cbailey at digital-scholarship.com

Publications: http://www.digital-scholarship.com/
(Provides access to DigitalKoans, Open Access Bibliography, Open Access Webliography, Scholarly Electronic Publishing Bibliography, Scholarly Electronic Publishing Weblog, and others)



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