Web4Lib Frequently Asked Questions List Jul 01
tdowling at ohiolink.edu
Thu Jul 1 08:10:01 EDT 2004
WEB4LIB FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
July 01, 2004
[Note: I am not the Web4Lib listowner. Please do not send
subscription problems to me. - Thomas]
This is the current set of Frequently Asked Questions (or, perhaps,
Frequently Needed Answers) for the Web4Lib mailing list.
Questions in this message:
How do I unsubscribe from Web4Lib?
What help is available if the list software won't do what I want?
Where are the list's archives? Where is its Web site?
What topics are usually considered on- and off-topic?
Is there a list for Internet filtering?
HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM WEB4LIB?
To unsubscribe from Web4Lib, you must e-mail the listproc program
that distributes the list. PLEASE NOTE: this is a different
address than the list itself. To unsubscribe, send e-mail to
listproc at webjunction.org with this single line in the body of
Shortly after you send this command, you should receive a
confirmation message from listproc reading, "You have been removed
from list web4lib at webjunction.org. Thanks for being with us."
This message usually arrives within a few minutes, but may take a
couple of hours if the server is busy; if you do not receive it in
a reasonable time, you should contact the list owner, Roy Tennant,
at roy.tennant at ucop.edu.
The software running Web4Lib is currently ListProc 6.0. This is a
powerful and flexible program, and it may offer you options for
management and receipt of Web4Lib that you did not know about. For
further options, send listproc at webjunction.org the message
"help", or consult the command reference at the Web4Lib Web site
WHAT HELP IS AVAILABLE IF THE LISTSERV WON'T DO WHAT I WANT?
There are two common reasons why the commands above don't work and
give you an error message. One is, ahem, operator error. If
you're trying to unsubscribe or issue other listproc commands, make
sure that you are spelling both the listproc address and the
The other common reason why unsubscribe and other commands fail is
that your e-mail address has changed since you first subscribed to
the list. Sometimes this is because you have chosen to forward
mail from your original address to a new one. Sometimes this is
due to your organization changing its entire e-mail addressing
structure en masse (for example, from addresses like
"chris at mailhost.domain.org" to "chris at domain.org"). For security
reasons, listproc will only process commands affecting your
subscription if the command is mailed from the same address as the
original subscription request. If your address has changed, and
you are still able to use the old address to send a message, use
the old address to unsubscribe from the list and then subscribe
from your new address.
If (and only if) you have exhausted all the alternatives available
at your end, you will need to send e-mail to the listowner, Roy
Tennant, at rtennant at library.berkeley.edu. Please be patient:
unlike listproc, Roy is a human and spends several minutes each
day doing things other than administering Web4Lib.
WHERE ARE THE LIST'S ARCHIVES? WHERE IS ITS WEB SITE?
Web4Lib's online home is
<URL:http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/>. Much of the
information in this message is based on material at that site.
The Web4Lib archives,
keyword searching of every message posted to the list since the
spring of 1995. The archive can also be browsed by date, subject,
WHAT TOPICS ARE USUALLY CONSIDERED ON- AND OFF-TOPIC?
The offical posting policy is located at
<URL:http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/#Policy>. Please read
Web4Lib is usually an easy-going place, open to posts that may only
be tangential to the core subject of the World Wide Web and
libraries. There are some helpful guidelines for keeping Web4Lib
productive, however: keep your posts concise and substantive; post
when you have something to add, and not simply when you want to
express agreement (or disagreement) with an earlier post; post when
you have something to say to all of the several thousand
subscribers, and not when your message is intended only for one or
two individuals; and be civil.
Those guidelines aside, some types of posting are always out of
line. Advertisements are inappropriate, although you may certainly
comment on the merits of a product within the context of a list
discussion. Vendors may discuss their products in the same
Personal attacks, insults, and name-calling may not be posted to
the list. Material with copyright restrictions that disallow
distribution on the list may not be posted; if you have permission
to redistribute the material, you should say so in your post.
Finally, virus warnings should NOT be posted to the list until and
unless they have been confirmed by CERT <URL:http://www.cert.org/>
or CIAC <URL:http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/>. Before forwarding a
virus warning to anyone, you may wish to acquaint yourself with the
history of virus hoaxes at
IS THERE A LIST FOR INTERNET FILTERING?
The subject of filtering software for Internet access is not off
topic for Web4Lib. However, it is a subject which is certainly
capable of generating enough traffic for its own list, and that
list is block-lib. For information on subscribing, please visit
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