[WEB4LIB] Re: Netscape and the thin black line

[Rob Weidman]

These posts made me check a site I had worked on a while ago - I used 
tables in this fashion (probably much too heavily) to create a curved 
navigation bar so wanted to make sure it looked o.k. in netscape 6

well, what would you know: it has similar problems in netscape 6 as 
vicki describes, though it has always looked fine in IE and earlier netscape

I used the xhtml transitional dtd for the site, and I have found that 
the page displays correctly in netscape 6 as soon as I take out the 
xhtml doctype declaration: vicki - is your page xhtml?

could anyone tell me why netscape 6 does this - is this a correct 
implementation of the xhtml dtd? - and what the best solution would be.

thanks

-rob-

Rob Weidman <row3 at lehigh.edu>
Cataloging Librarian
Lehigh University
Library & Technology Services

Vicki Falkland wrote:

> reply to the list instead of individuals due to numerous personal responses.
> 
> i've become intrigued by this little bit of code. 
> 
> i've tried all suggestions: removed white space, put code all on one line,
> added height="1" to <td>, added <br> after <img> ... a bunch of things (oh,
> and obviously i've included bgcolor which i neglected to include that in my
> original question).
> people keep telling "i do <this> and it works for me". well, i paste their
> code into MY editor, display it in NS6, and i get a fat black line.
> older Netscapes display it fine, IE displays it fine. 
> whats up with NS6 ??
> or am i STILL missing something??
> 
> v.
> 
> 
> 
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Vicki Falkland" <library at cryptic.rch.unimelb.edu.au>
>>>>To: "Multiple recipients of list" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:40 PM
>>>>Subject: [WEB4LIB] Netscape and the thin black line
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Once upon a time, it was possible to create a thin black line across
>>>>>
>>part
>>
>>>>>of a table with the following code:
>>>>>
>>>>><td>
>>>>><img src="blank.gif" height="1" width="1" alt="" >
>>>>></td>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've been looking at one of our older, defunct sites on newer versions
>>>>>
>>of
>>
>>>>>Netscape, just out of curiosity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Funny thing is, Navigator stand-alone 4.08 displays it just fine, but
>>>>>
>>>>newer
>>>>
>>>>>Netscapes (6+) don't collapse the table row to a thin line - it
>>>>>
>>displays
>>
>>>>it
>>>>
>>>>>at full height as if there were text in it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I know that folk here in general say this practice is "not on", that it
>>>>>
>>is
>>
>>>>>not "good design", but I really am curious. A lot of sites still do
>>>>>
>>this.
>>
>>>>>How do they get this "thin black line" to display in Netscape?
>>>>>
>>>>>Or have I missed something entirely???
>>>>>
>>>>>vicki
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>