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>			    WEB4LIB Digest 2526
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>  1) resticting users to one website
>	by Info Galway Library <info at galwaylibrary.ie>
>  2) Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>	by Thomas Dowling <tdowling at ohiolink.edu>
>  3) Re: resticting users to one website
>	by Robert Sullivan <scp_sulli at sals.edu>
>  4) Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>	by Jennie.McKee at directory.reed.edu (Jennie McKee)
>  5) Google Unveils New Enterprise "Search Appliance"
>	by gprice <gprice at gwu.edu>
>  6) academic library intranets
>	by "Drew, Bill" <drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU>
>  7) Re: academic library intranets
>	by "GraceAnne A. DeCandido" <ladyhawk at well.com>
>  8) Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>	by "Kenneth Irwin" <kirwin at wittenberg.edu>
>  9) Useful-But-Generally-Unknown Patent Web Resources
>	by "Gerry Mckiernan" <GMCKIERN at gwgate.lib.iastate.edu>
> 10) Re: academic library intranets
>	by Dan Lester <dan at riverofdata.com>
> 11) RE: academic library intranets
>	by "Drew, Bill" <drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU>
> 12) Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>	by Eric Hellman <eric at openly.com>
> 13) Clean Slate
>	by Connie Hudson <CHUDSON at flower-mound.com>
> 14) Re: Use of ssi's
>	by "Gimon, Charles A" <cagimon at mplib.org>
> 15) Re: resticting users to one website
>	by stephanie spearman <razl00 at yahoo.com>
> 16) RE: Library Web Page Design
>	by Donna Stewart <d.stewart at csuohio.edu>
> 17) Netsurfer Digest goes paid subscription
>	by "Reed, Tracey" <treed at clearwater-fl.com>
> 18) Vacancy Notice - Systems Librarian, Mankato, MN
>	by Julie Dornack <julie.dornack at mnsu.edu>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 1
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:32:36 +0000
>From: Info Galway Library <info at galwaylibrary.ie>
>To: "'web4lib at webjunction.org'" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: resticting users to one website
>Message-ID: <6F274B955A9BD311899A009027DEA655A9989C at galway-primary>
>
>Hi,
>
>I would like to restrict users to one website, viz. our library
catalogue,
>on some of our pcs. I am hoping to do this without using filtering
software.
>I am using Windows NT workstation and Internet Explorer 5.
>
>If I specify 127.0.0.1 as the proxy server and specify my allowed site
as
>the only site that is not to be retrieved by the proxy server, I meet
with
>some success. However, when any other website is requested, I get a
dialog
>box saying 'unable to open search page'. I cannot change the search page
or
>can I? I would like to create my own page that would explain that this
pc
>may only be used to access the library catalogue. This page would reside
on
>the hard disk and would open whenever any website other than the library
>catalogue is requested.
>
>Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>Regards
>John Fitzgibbon
> 
>Galway Public Library
>Island House
>Cathedral Square
>Galway
>Ireland
> 
>http://www.galwaylibrary.ie 
>
>Phone: 00 353 91 562471
>Fax: 00 353 91 565039 
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 2
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:05:19 -0500
>From: Thomas Dowling <tdowling at ohiolink.edu>
>To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>Subject: Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020211085627.0228f708 at ohiolink.edu>
>
>At 09:02 AM 2/10/2002, Nancy Sosna Bohm wrote:
>>I woke up this morning and thought first thing that y'all will NOT be
able
>>to see the code after the server has processed the ssi's.
>>First, to recap what I am asking:
>>Is it insanity to to recode 25 pages of links to & info about our
hundreds
>>of
>>databases using ssi's to "hide" and "show" the appropriate links when
>>students are on or off campus (depending on IP range)?
>
>
>I don't think it's insanity to use SSI for this, though I think other 
>server-side technologies will give you more flexibility in the 
>future.  You'll know better than we can whether this is likely to tax
your 
>server, but SSI is usually a pretty lightweight service.  (I'm speaking
as 
>an Apache person; if WebSTAR can't do SSI as easily, that's something
else 
>to consider.)
>
>That said, I think your approach has inefficiencies built in that will
make 
>your server work much harder than necessary.    It asks the "What's your

>IP?" question over and over, once per database.  It seems like you could

>ask the question once at the top to set a variable and then just refer
to 
>that variable, or use it once to do an include of either the on-campus 
>content or the off-campus content.
>
>
>Thomas Dowling
>OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network
>tdowling at ohiolink.edu
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 3
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 9:38:34 -0500
>From: Robert Sullivan <scp_sulli at sals.edu>
>To: WEB4LIB at webjunction.org
>Subject: Re: resticting users to one website
>Message-ID: <020211093834.896 at sals.edu>
>
>>I cannot change the search page or
>>can I? I would like to create my own page that would explain that this
pc
>>may only be used to access the library catalogue. This page would
reside on
>>the hard disk and would open whenever any website other than the
library
>>catalogue is requested.
>
>The location of the search page in NT and Internet Explorer is in this
>Registry key:
>
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search
>
>I set the "CustomizeSearch" value to nothing and the "SearchAssistant"
value to
>our chosen search page.
>
>Bob Sullivan                               scp_sulli at sals.edu
>Schenectady County Public Library (NY)     http://www.scpl.org
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 4
>
>Date: 11 Feb 2002 06:53:28 PST
>From: Jennie.McKee at directory.reed.edu (Jennie McKee)
>To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>Subject: Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>Message-ID: <4542535 at rosencrantz.reed.edu>
>
>Back when I used Webstar (4 years ago before we got a UNIX server and 
>changed to Apache) I used a couple of HTML commands that Webstar had -
HIDE and SHOW 
>to restrict access to passwords that we showed the students when on
logging in 
>from the campus IP range.  You could check into using those.  No, I
don't think it's 
>insanity to do what you are doing.
>
>Jennie McKee
>Systems Librarian
>Reed College
>
>--- You wrote:
>I woke up this morning and thought first thing that y'all will NOT be
able
>to see the code after the server has processed the ssi's.
>First, to recap what I am asking:
>Is it insanity to to recode 25 pages of links to & info about our
hundreds
>of
>databases using ssi's to "hide" and "show" the appropriate links when
>students are on or off campus (depending on IP range)?
>
>One of the current pages looks like this:
>http://www.lib.lfc.edu/journals/a-dbs.html
>
>Now, to see the code for new version:
>http://www.lib.lfc.edu/journals/a-dbstesty.html
>Look here:
>http://ulink.net/plum/Home/a-dbstesty.html
>
>And here again is the page we (3 of us) would fill in with data from the
>other 24 pages:
>http://www.lib.lfc.edu/journals/a-ztemplate.html
>With its code visible here:
>http://ulink.net/plum/Home/a-ztemplate.html
>
>Thank again in advance for any responses.
>
>--Nancy Bohm
>   Reference and Web Librarian
>   Donnelley Library
>   Lake Forest College
>
>--- end of quote ---
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 5
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:03:56 -0500
>From: gprice <gprice at gwu.edu>
>To: web4lib <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: Google Unveils New Enterprise "Search Appliance"
>Message-ID: <3C69AC15 at webmail3.gwu.edu>
>
>A bit of news (what else is new) from Google.
>
>Google Introduces Corporate "Search Appliance"
>
>>From the article, "By expanding into the corporate search business,
Mountain 
>View, California-based Google joins a number of companies including
Verity 
>Inc, Ask Jeeves Inc and CMGI Inc's AltaVista that are also selling
enterprise 
>software. What makes Google different is that it is selling search
hardware 
>and software, all contained in a slim device it calls the Google Search 
>Appliance, which businesses can install behind their own corporate
firewalls 
>and program to scan whichever documents they wish...The product comes in
two 
>versions; one that sells for $20,000 and scales to search up to 150,000 
>documents and a more powerful version for $250,000, which Google says
can scan 
>"millions and millions" of documents."
>
>Full-Text of article at:
>http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-8761996-0.html
>
>More new stuff on the blog:
>http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com
>
>cheers,
>gary
>
>Gary D. Price, MLIS
>Librarian
>Gary Price Library Research and Internet Consulting
>gprice at gwu.edu
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 6
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:06:34 -0500
>From: "Drew, Bill" <drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU>
>To: "Web4Lib (E-mail)" <web4lib at webjunction.org>,
>Subject: academic library intranets
>Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41BC86 at mail1.morrisville.edu
>
>
>We have just been given a location on our college intranet.  When
accessed
>from off campus the intranet requires a username/password to get to it. 
I
>just moved our architecture slide collection to it.  Other than obvious
>things such as online ILL forms and electronic course reserve, what
types of
>things are put on to such an intranet?  Can anyone refer me to any
journal
>or magazine articles?
>
>
>Wilfred (Bill) Drew
>Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference
>SUNY Morrisville College Library
>E-mail: mailto:drewwe at morrisville.edu
>BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/
>Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/
>Library: http://library.morrisville.edu
>Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/
>SUNY Morrisville College: America's Most Wired 2 Year College - 2001,
2000
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 7
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:21:32 -0500
>From: "GraceAnne A. DeCandido" <ladyhawk at well.com>
>To: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU, web4lib at webjunction.org
>Subject: Re: academic library intranets
>Message-ID: <3C679B2C.1785.2797A9 at localhost>
>
>Bill and all, 
>You may find useful info and a number of links in the Tech 
>Note I wrote for PLA on Intranets,
>
>http://www.pla.org/publications/technotes/technotes_intranet.html
>
>GraceAnne DeCandido
>
>Drew, Bill wrote on 11 Feb 2002, about [WEB4LIB] academic library
intranets
>
>> We have just been given a location on our college intranet. 
>> When accessed from off campus the intranet requires a
>> username/password to get to it.  I just moved our
>> architecture slide collection to it.  Other than obvious
>> things such as online ILL forms and electronic course
>> reserve, what types of things are put on to such an
>> intranet?  Can anyone refer me to any journal or magazine
>> articles?
>> 
>> 
>> Wilfred (Bill) Drew
>> Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference
>> SUNY Morrisville College Library
>> E-mail: mailto:drewwe at morrisville.edu
>> BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/
>> Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/
>> Library: http://library.morrisville.edu Wireless Librarian:
>> http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ SUNY
>> Morrisville College: America's Most Wired 2 Year College -
>> 2001, 2000
>> 
>> 
>
>
>GraceAnne A. DeCandido, MLS
>Blue Roses Consulting ~ Writing ~ Editorial ~ Web Content ~ New York
City ~ 
>ladyhawk at well.com http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/gadhome.html
>What's Ladyhawk reading now?
>http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/books.html
>
>To be involved with books is to live at the heart of light.
>Mary Cantwell
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 8
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:49:18 -0500
>From: "Kenneth Irwin" <kirwin at wittenberg.edu>
>To: web4lib at webjunction.org, plum at ulink.net
>Subject: Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>Message-ID: <4.1.20020211103827.00c64ad0 at mail.wittenberg.edu>
>
>Quoth "Nancy Sosna Bohm" <plum at ulink.net>:
>
>>First, to recap what I am asking:
>>Is it insanity to to recode 25 pages of links to & info about our
hundreds
>>of databases using ssi's to "hide" and "show" the appropriate links
when
>>students are on or off campus (depending on IP range)?
>
>Nancy,
>
>Our approach has been to use a redirection script to handle the on- and
>off-campus URL problem. All of our links look like:
>http://www6.wittenberg.edu/redirect.php?http://www.jstor.org
>The redirection script does a few things:
>1) logs the transaction for statistical purposes
>2) applies any temporary redirects (e.g. "our main server is down today,
so
>for just today send your users to this url instead...)
>3) detects IP addresses and reroutes to our proxy server if necessary.
>
>This approach could be adapted to your situation by doing what we should
>have done in the first place: call all databases by an ID number instead
of
>URL, look up the appropriate URL in a database. That way you could have
an
>"off-campus URL" field and an "on-campus URL", and the redirect would
fetch
>whichever one is appropriate. Our databases are stored in a database,
but
>we've been doing all logging on URL, which is great until URLs change
and
>stats start getting weirded. If you're going to put in lots of work to
>revise your links, how about going all the way to a solution that will
be
>easier to change later?
>
>As for the initial change, it looks like it *might* be an automatable
task
>if you have a Perl-junkie in-house. I wouldn't try to automate it for a
>small changeover, but 100s of DB's on 25 pages sounds like it might be
>worth putting in code-time. Of course, given a job that would take 2
hours
>to do by hand or 2 hours to automate, I'd rather take the automation
route
>because it'll be a challenge rather than a bore ;)
>
>I hope this helps,
>Ken
>
>
>Ken Irwin	                            		kirwin at wittenberg.edu
>Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian	(937) 327-7594
>Thomas Library, Wittenberg University
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 9
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:06:27 -0600
>From: "Gerry Mckiernan" <GMCKIERN at gwgate.lib.iastate.edu>
>To: <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: Useful-But-Generally-Unknown Patent Web Resources
>Message-ID: <sc6797ad.093 at 129.186.11.21>
>
>              _Useful-But-Generally-Unknown Patent Web Resources_
>
>   For my next 'Sci-5" column for _Science and Technology Libraries_, I 
>plan to profile a select set of five (5) Useful-But-Generally-Unknown
*PATENT* Web 
>resources and invite my Web colleagues to nominate candidate for review.
>
>   As Always, Any and All recommendations, suggestions, comments,
queries. 
>Cosmic Insights, Confessional Testimony, Etc. Etc. Etc. are Most
Welcome.
>
>   Regards,
>
>Gerry McKiernan
>Useful-But-Generally-Unknown Librarian
>Iowa State University
>Ames IA 50011
>
>gerrymck at iastate.edu  
>
>   
>
>   
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 10
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:36:51 -0700
>From: Dan Lester <dan at riverofdata.com>
>To: "Drew, Bill" <drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU>
>Subject: Re: academic library intranets
>Message-ID: <75341216523.20020211093651 at riverofdata.com>
>
>Monday, February 11, 2002, 8:08:26 AM, you wrote:
>DB> We have just been given a location on our college intranet.  When
accessed
>DB> from off campus the intranet requires a username/password to get to
it.  I
>DB> just moved our architecture slide collection to it.  Other than
obvious
>DB> things such as online ILL forms and electronic course reserve, what
types of
>DB> things are put on to such an intranet?
>
>Does the login and password mean that students and faculty can access
>the things on the intranet?  If so, the things you include make sense.
>If not, I hope you'll consider making those resources available off
>campus.
>
>To my way of thinking the above sounds more like an implementation of
>services that require authenticated access, which doesn't seem
>different from what you do for databases you license.  Our library
>intranet includes items that are probably of interest to library staff
>only, such as information from the Social Committee on forthcoming
>events, monthly acquisitions and cataloging statistics, minutes of
>meetings, and so forth.  Several corporate intranets with which I'm
>familiar include the same types of things, those that are of interest
>to, or should only be available to, employees of the organization.
>
>cheers
>
>dan
>
>-- 
>Dan Lester, Data Wrangler  dan at RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711
>3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho  83716-7115 USA
>www.riverofdata.com  www.gailndan.com  Stop Global Whining!
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 11
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:38:51 -0500
>From: "Drew, Bill" <drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU>
>To: "'Dan Lester'" <dan at riverofdata.com>,
>Cc: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: RE: academic library intranets
>Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41BC8B at mail1.morrisville.edu
>
>
>Users can access them off campus if they are a member of the college
>community.  There is a separate college staff/faculty intranet  as well
as
>one for the entire college community.  The intranets are accessible via
the
>web in the same way all of us (at Morrisville) can use the Webmail
version
>of Outlook to check our e-mail from any computer.  Sure it is a form of
>authentication.  I think that is good.  
>
>Bill Drew
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 12
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:07:55 -0500
>From: Eric Hellman <eric at openly.com>
>To: kirwin at wittenberg.edu
>Cc: web4lib at webjunction.org
>Subject: Re: Use of ssi's--CORRECTION
>Message-ID: <p04330107b88da8440cc9@[160.79.219.232]>
>
>Using database identifiers is definitely the right solution!
>
>the big payoff is when you use this type of link for everything on 
>your site, it becomes easier to maintain, upgrade, and switch.
>
>And for now, there's no need to switch technology- you can just put 
>SSI pages at the end of the database link.
>
>Eric
>
>>Quoth "Nancy Sosna Bohm" <plum at ulink.net>:
>>
>>>First, to recap what I am asking:
>>>Is it insanity to to recode 25 pages of links to & info about our
hundreds
>>>of databases using ssi's to "hide" and "show" the appropriate links
when
>>>students are on or off campus (depending on IP range)?
>>
>>Nancy,
>>
>>Our approach has been to use a redirection script to handle the on- and
>>off-campus URL problem. All of our links look like:
>>http://www6.wittenberg.edu/redirect.php?http://www.jstor.org
>>The redirection script does a few things:
>>1) logs the transaction for statistical purposes
>>2) applies any temporary redirects (e.g. "our main server is down
today, so
>>for just today send your users to this url instead...)
>>3) detects IP addresses and reroutes to our proxy server if necessary.
>>
>>This approach could be adapted to your situation by doing what we
should
>>have done in the first place: call all databases by an ID number
instead of
>>URL, look up the appropriate URL in a database. That way you could have
an
>>"off-campus URL" field and an "on-campus URL", and the redirect would
fetch
>>whichever one is appropriate. Our databases are stored in a database,
but
>>we've been doing all logging on URL, which is great until URLs change
and
>>stats start getting weirded. If you're going to put in lots of work to
>>revise your links, how about going all the way to a solution that will
be
>>easier to change later?
>>
>>As for the initial change, it looks like it *might* be an automatable
task
>>if you have a Perl-junkie in-house. I wouldn't try to automate it for a
>>small changeover, but 100s of DB's on 25 pages sounds like it might be
>>worth putting in code-time. Of course, given a job that would take 2
hours
>>to do by hand or 2 hours to automate, I'd rather take the automation
route
>>because it'll be a challenge rather than a bore ;)
>>
>>I hope this helps,
>>Ken
>>
>>
>>Ken Irwin	                           		kirwin at wittenberg.edu
>>Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian	(937) 327-7594
>>Thomas Library, Wittenberg University
>
>-- 
>Eric Hellman
>
>Openly Informatics, Inc.
>http://www.openly.com/1cate/      1 Click Access To Everything
>http://my.linkbaton.com/                Links that Learn
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 13
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:33:49 -0600
>From: Connie Hudson <CHUDSON at flower-mound.com>
>To: "'web4lib at webjunction.org'" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: Clean Slate
>Message-ID: <E8F1C174E71ED51185A500508B9366383200AE at MAIL>
>
>Is anyone on the list using Clean Slate on their public computers? I've
used
>Deep Freeze on my Win95 public computers and Centurion Guard on the
WinNT
>machines. I'm a lot happier with Deep Freeze, but since they don't make
it
>for WinNT yet, I am considering Clean Slate for a couple of WinNT
laptops. 
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>
>Connie Hudson, Systems Coordinator
>chudson at flower-mound.com
>Flower Mound Public Library
>3030 Broadmoor  Flower Mound, TX   75022
>972-874-6161  fax 972-874-6466
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 14
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:40:09 -0600
>From: "Gimon, Charles A" <cagimon at mplib.org>
>To: "'web4lib at webjunction.org'" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: Re: Use of ssi's
>Message-ID: <DF1BECFDA8D9D311BB7E00105A08EE280129F2AD at alpha>
>
>This is similar what we're doing as well:
>
>http://www.mplib.org/database.asp
>
>The URLs, titles, subject headings, descriptions, etc. are stored in a
>database on the web server. We look at the IP address, query the
database,
>and serve up to that user the links that they have access to. Users
outside
>the Library get links to databases available remotely, staff members get
>access to trials, and so on.
>
>We also count clickthroughs on the links, which gives us some quick
>"apples-to-apples" statistics on database usage between the many
different
>vendors.
>
>The content in the database of databases is managed by a librarian in
our
>Acquisitions Department, who can add and edit records whenever
necessary;
>the code in the actual pages never changes. The pages themselves are ASP
>with PerlScript (Perl instead of Visual Basic).
>
>--Charles Gimon
>  Web Coordinator
>  Minneapolis Public Library
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 15
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:13:18 -0800 (PST)
>From: stephanie spearman <razl00 at yahoo.com>
>To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>Subject: Re: resticting users to one website
>Message-ID: <20020211181318.80830.qmail at web13005.mail.yahoo.com>
>
>On our OPACs I create a persistent connection to the
>catalog with the DOS 'route' command on top or I guess
>you could say *behind* everything else. But I also
>pile on the reghacks & browser proxy restrictions and
>kiosk so they cannot type in a web address (IE5.5 &
>NT). A page with good DOS explanation is
>'computerhope' (isn't that a pleasant name?):
>http://www.computerhope.com/routehlp.htm
>
>Stephanie Spearman
>Electronic Services Librarian
>Northwest Ga Regional Library System
>Dalton, GA
>
>--- Robert Sullivan <scp_sulli at sals.edu> wrote:
>> >I cannot change the search page or
>> >can I? I would like to create my own page that
>> would explain that this pc
>> >may only be used to access the library catalogue.
>> This page would reside on
>> >the hard disk and would open whenever any website
>> other than the library
>> >catalogue is requested.
>> 
>> The location of the search page in NT and Internet
>> Explorer is in this
>> Registry key:
>> 
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet
>> Explorer\Search
>> 
>> I set the "CustomizeSearch" value to nothing and the
>> "SearchAssistant" value to
>> our chosen search page.
>> 
>> Bob Sullivan                              
>> scp_sulli at sals.edu
>> Schenectady County Public Library (NY)    
>> http://www.scpl.org
>> 
>
>
>=====
>Sometimes the only solution is to find a new problem...
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 16
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:28:34 -0500
>From: Donna Stewart <d.stewart at csuohio.edu>
>To: Carolyne.Sidey at crt.xerox.com,
>Subject: RE: Library Web Page Design
>Message-ID: <000201c1b343$10218ee0$f20b9489 at ulib.csuohio.edu>
>
>Hi, Carolyne -
>
>Not quite a month later, I'm finally catching up on Web4Lib mail and ran
>across your post.  This was exactly our intention when we redesigned our
>library's site a couple of years ago, and what a hard sell it was.  Not
>nearly stodgy - I mean professional - enough for the tastes of our
staff,
>but fortunately our users overruled us.  These days when I'm asked to
create
>a new page, people actually ask me to use the "find it" "get it" "do it"
>language.
>
>http://www.ulib.csuohio.edu/
>
>Miami University Libraries has a very nice combination of both
approaches:
>http://www.lib.muohio.edu/
>
>Donna Stewart
>Cleveland State University Library Systems
>d.stewart at csuohio.edu
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: web4lib at webjunction.org
>[mailto:web4lib at webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Sidey, Carolyne L
>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:18 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Library Web Page Design
>
>
>Trying again.
>
>Apologies if this has been discussed in the past.  I could not find
anything
>in the archives.
>
>I am looking for examples of library web pages designed around the
concept
>of what the user would be looking for (as opposed to what the library
has to
>offer)
>
>Something along the line of  the Microsoft ad - where do you want to go
>today?
>
>Currently my site is organized by services and holdings.  Any ideas,
>samples, comments????
>
>thanks
>
>Carolyne
>
>
>
>
>Carolyne Sidey
>Manager, XRCC Library
>Xerox Research Centre of Canada
>2660 Speakman Drive
>Mississauga, Ontario
>CANADA L5K 2L1
>1 (905) 823-7091 ext. 302
>1 (905) 822-7022 FAX
> <mailto:csidey at crt.xerox.com> csidey at crt.xerox.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 17
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:38:20 -0500
>From: "Reed, Tracey" <treed at clearwater-fl.com>
>To: "'web4lib'" <web4lib at webjunction.org>
>Subject: Netsurfer Digest goes paid subscription
>Message-ID: <F1411049DA08D1118BF100A024E130AEA53D54 at lib1.clearwater-fl.co
m>
>
>Greetings.....
>
>After 8 years, NSD is finally hitting the point that they need to start
>charging for their ezine.  Personally, I'm sad, but after doin' my time
at
>startups that failed because they had no $ coming in, I completely
>understand.  
>
>There is an upside to this though:  if you'd like to continue to give
your
>patrons free access to the site, they'll set up a free account for you. 

>
>More information can be found here:  http://www.netsurf.com/subs_letter.h
tml
>
>For those of you who don't know/haven't run across NSD, it's a great
>resource.
>
>-t
>
>___________________
>Tracey Reed
>Clearwater Public Library System
>treed at clearwater-fl.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Topic No. 18
>
>Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:13:44 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>From: Julie Dornack <julie.dornack at mnsu.edu>
>To: web4lib at webjunction.org
>Subject: Vacancy Notice - Systems Librarian, Mankato, MN
>Message-ID: <SIMEON.10202111644.L at manml1024878.mail.mankato.msus.edu>
>
>SYSTEMS LIBRARIAN, Minnesota State University, Mankato. 
>Tenure-track, faculty position, Assistant Professor rank.  
>
>For complete position vacancy:
>http://www.lib.mnsu.edu/lib/vacancies.html .  Applications 
>received by April 15, 2002 will receive priority consideration.  
>AA/EOE.
>
>RESPONSIBILITIES:  Provide leadership in planning, implementing, 
>and managing information technologies to facilitate library 
>service.  Responsible for long-range planning, maintenance, and 
>upgrades of the library's automated systems, hardware and 
>software. Oversee the library's website and provide leadership 
>and technical expertise in the integration of Web-based 
>resources.  Coordinate the Library Web Team and collaborate with 
>other campus units on digital initiatives. Lead team of 
>electronic resources librarians to ensure cohesion among all 
>technology-impacted areas. Provide technical expertise in the 
>selection, implementation, and maintenance of online databases. 
>Take leadership role in migration to new statewide integ





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