From DobbsA at apsu.edu Wed May 9 09:44:55 2001 From: DobbsA at apsu.edu (Dobbs, Aaron) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet 5.5 Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE91E5CE@exchange.apsu.edu> first try checking http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com For any security or other "critical" updates. They will also give you a list of optinal or suggested updates, caveat emptor! second (if first option doesn't pan out) try upgrading the underlying operating system (a "newer" service pack would possibly work, too) -Aaron :-)' -----Original Message----- From: Illene Rubin [mailto:rubinir@pobox.upenn.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet 5.5 I have a question that I think was addressed a while back but I can't recall the answer. When we try hotmail and several other websites on our public workstations (using IE 5.5) we get a page that says our website cannot be displayed because it requires 128-bit connection security -- I've tried loading the Microsoft High Encryption Pack but it doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Illene Rubin Gloucester City Library -- From rhiebert at sd6.bc.ca Wed May 9 11:05:13 2001 From: rhiebert at sd6.bc.ca (rhiebert@sd6.bc.ca) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: .wav --> restore pristine computer Message-ID: <87256A47.0051D4AA.00@mail.sd6.bc.ca> We gave up on Foolproof 18 months ago and started using DeepFreeze, which claims to forget all changes made to the computer when it is rebooted. So far I have no reason to doubt it. Regards, Robert Robert Hiebert Librarian, Golden Secondary School www.sd6.bc.ca/gss/library/ Fax: 250 344 7116 rhiebert@sd6.bc.ca |--------+-----------------------> | | Mark Pecaut | | | | | | | | | 05/08/2001 | | | 11:18 AM | | | Please | | | respond to | | | pecautm | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Multiple recipients of list | | | | cc: (bcc: Robert Hiebert/SD6) | | Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files | >--------------------------------------------------------| On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: > > Block the use of Real Player :) > On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your > security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security programs, or are there other issues involved? Any thoughts? -Mark From bernies at uillinois.edu Wed May 9 12:24:51 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: Questia Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB042325A4@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> For those of you interested in Questia, here's a recent news item from the Houston Chronicle: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/business/903977 It appears that they are reducing staffing levels, and slowing the pace at which they'd been digitizing books. Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From cagimon at mplib.org Wed May 9 13:11:17 2001 From: cagimon at mplib.org (Gimon, Charles A) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Questia Message-ID: Oddly enough, I saw a TV commercial for Questia last weekend. (During, of all things, "Talk Soup" on the E! cable channel.) Not that that's any indication of a company's solvency or lack thereof, as we've seen from the dot-com meltdown... --Charles Gimon Web Coordinator Minneapolis Public Library > -----Original Message----- > From: Sloan, Bernie [mailto:bernies@uillinois.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:30 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Questia > > > > For those of you interested in Questia, here's a recent news > item from the > Houston Chronicle: > http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/business/903977 It appears that they are reducing staffing levels, and slowing the pace at which they'd been digitizing books. Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From phillipsc at bluffton.edu Wed May 9 15:00:50 2001 From: phillipsc at bluffton.edu (Carrie Phillips) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape Message-ID: <000f01c0d8ba$5db47c80$0c02010a@bluffton.edu> Does anyone have a tried-and-true website (or book) reference for working with JavaScript? I'm a JS rookie, and I've adapted some code that uses layers to create an LC call number sorting activity . It works fine in Netscape 4.76, but IE 5 gives me some errors. I think I can troubleshoot it, but I just need some help finding some sources to look at. Example snippets of code using layers that are known to work in IE would be a big help, if anyone has any examples! Thanks! -- Carrie Phillips Computer Technician/Reference & ILL Assistant/O-PCIRC Musselman Library Bluffton College - BLC 280 W. College Ave., Ste. 4 Bluffton, OH 45817 Ph. 419.358.3275 Fx. 419.358.3384 phillipsc@bluffton.edu From treed at clearwater-fl.com Wed May 9 15:08:37 2001 From: treed at clearwater-fl.com (Reed, Tracey) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape Message-ID: Try Builder.com's message boards. I've had great response from the moderators there as - not to mention the resource archive. Also good: webmonkey.com, javascript.com, javascript.internet.com. -tracey -----Original Message----- From: Carrie Phillips [mailto:phillipsc@bluffton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape Does anyone have a tried-and-true website (or book) reference for working with JavaScript? I'm a JS rookie, and I've adapted some code that uses layers to create an LC call number sorting activity . It works fine in Netscape 4.76, but IE 5 gives me some errors. I think I can troubleshoot it, but I just need some help finding some sources to look at. Example snippets of code using layers that are known to work in IE would be a big help, if anyone has any examples! Thanks! -- Carrie Phillips Computer Technician/Reference & ILL Assistant/O-PCIRC Musselman Library Bluffton College - BLC 280 W. College Ave., Ste. 4 Bluffton, OH 45817 Ph. 419.358.3275 Fx. 419.358.3384 phillipsc@bluffton.edu From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed May 9 15:21:42 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape References: <000f01c0d8ba$5db47c80$0c02010a@bluffton.edu> Message-ID: <006f01c0d8bd$6820ea20$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > I'm a JS rookie, and I've adapted some code that uses layers to create an LC > call number sorting activity . It works fine in Netscape 4.76, but IE 5 > gives me some errors. I think I can troubleshoot it, but I just need some > help finding some sources to look at. Example snippets of code using layers > that are known to work in IE would be a big help, if anyone has any > examples! > My own JS skills are mostly monkey see-monkey do, but I'm curious if anyone can explain what layers means in the IE context. I understand the Netscape 4 proprietary LAYER element (long discouraged even by Netscape and justly gone from NS6). Is the IE equivalent a matter of using DOM calls to change the z-index values of overlapping DIVs? Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From plum at ulink.net Wed May 9 15:24:14 2001 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape References: <000f01c0d8ba$5db47c80$0c02010a@bluffton.edu> Message-ID: <003f01c0d8bd$a2864160$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> Try: JavaScript for the World Wide Web, 4th Edition: Visual QuickStart Guide But layers don't work in IE. From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed May 9 16:27:41 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape References: <006f01c0d8bd$6820ea20$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <002501c0d8c6$8141a0e0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > My own JS skills are mostly monkey see-monkey do, but I'm curious if > anyone can explain what layers means in the IE context. I understand the > Netscape 4 proprietary LAYER element (long discouraged even by Netscape > and justly gone from NS6). Is the IE equivalent a matter of using DOM > calls to change the z-index values of overlapping DIVs? > Thanks for the several clarifications and examples I received. I have a better sense of what "layers" means in this context. It bears pointing out that this too universal snippet of code... if (document.all) { // IE //do IE stuff } else if (document.layers) { // Netscape //do NS4 stuff } ...works with neither Opera 5.11 nor Mozilla/NS6. It leaves out the one actual standard for doing this, the W3C Document Object Model, which I learned to test for with: ...else if (document.getElementsByTagName("*")) { // W3C DOM-compliant browser Browser sniffing is quicksand for the unwary web author; DOM sniffing is even trickier. Please don't fall into the "Works With BOTH Browsers" habit. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From Infoadvis2 at aol.com Wed May 9 16:27:39 2001 From: Infoadvis2 at aol.com (Infoadvis2@aol.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: Analyst Brokerage Research on the Web: Multex vs. Investext Message-ID: <91.a9c4238.282b023b@aol.com> (cross-posted: apologies for any duplication) Greetings--Below is a summary and excerpt from an article from the April, 2001 issue of The Information Advisor, which describes and compares Investext and Multex as sources for locating analyst brokerage reports on the Web. If there are questions or comments feel free to call or email me directly at rberkman@aol.com. The full article provides a detailed comparison table of features of the two products and a sidebar on searching Investext in PDF on Dialog. (Other articles in the April 2001 issue include: whether and how to use public relations personnel as trusted sources of expertise; a new "Best of the Business Web" alert service [which is free--see sign up information at the end of this message] and searching discussion group archives via Google). Robert Berkman Editor The Information Advisor www.informationadvisor.com Falmouth MA 508-540-5990 rberkman@aol.com ********************************************************************* (Excerpt from April, 2001 Information Advisor) INVESTMENT RESEARCH ON THE WEB The Web has had a huge impact in the availability and delivery of investment research reports. But, while there are many aggregators, discount brokerage sites, investment advice portals and the like, there are only two providers that offer top-notch and powerful databases of investment reports: Multex and Investext. Both firms offer various front-ends for accessing their investment reports, and this article identifies and compares the two firms'offerings. Multex Multex offers investment reports and information services to the financial community via three major services: MultexNET product for financial professionals; MultexInvestor.com for individual investors, and, MultexNET On-Demand for the information professional and business end user. When you log onto MultexNET On-Demand (www.multex.com), you begin by choosing either a "simple" or "advanced" search. To run a simple search, you enter a ticker or company name. At this point, you can also limit the search by "symbol origin" (you select a country), date, keyword (in full text or in headline), industry, region and/or country. If, on the other hand, you select the advanced search option, you have many more choices for narrowing and focusing your search. These are: *By Category Here you can limit your search to a certain type of research, e.g., commodity research, company (equity) reports, credit research, derivative research, economic reports, foreign exchange, industry focus, internal reports, market/country research, and so on. *By Keyword You can choose to search the full text of the reports or restrict the search to headlines. *By Document Language *By Specific Contributor *By Specific Analyst Name *By Currency *Sort By You may choose to sort your results by date, relevance, or length of report. Overall, we were quite pleased with MultexNET On-Demand. The system was simple, powerful, and had many helpful features. We have a few small complaints. We found that some publishers categorized as "market/country research" were a bit iffy, such as Hoovers and CNBC. While these firms provide useful company and industry information, we don't think they should be grouped together with the heavy-duty Wall Street research firms like Salomon Smith Barney or Morgan Stanley. Also, on the matter of report categorization, we'd like to see definitions of these categories and a list that identifies which publishers' reports are slotted into which categories. Thomson's Investext Thomson has created several sites where you can search and download Investext reports. These include: Research Bank Web (www.investext.com) Intelliscope (www.intelliscope.com) Thomson Investors Network (www.thomsoninvest.net) Global Access (www.primark.com/ga) [coming soon, to be moved from ThomsonDirect.com] Information professionals looking for a Thomson Web product to search Investext may want to choose Research Bank Web, with its archive dating back to 1982. In early March, Thomson introduced its latest edition of Research Bank Web called Version 1.5. We had a chance to try out this new version. Searching Research Bank Web When you log onto Research Bank Web, you have a few initial choices to make. First, you need to decide which of the Thomson databases you want to search. You can check or uncheck boxes to search Investext, Morning Notes (very brief investment reports), MarkIntel (market research reports), and/or Industry Insider (trade association research and reports). You also have a choice of two different search interfaces-"Full" search and "Expert Search." With Full Search, you can limit your search by clicking on any of the following: Company Free Text/Title (1999 and forward only) Ticker Symbol Author Industry Contributor Geography Report Type Report Date Report Number You create your search criteria, one at a a time, on the left-hand side of the screen, and you view how your search is being built, step by step on the right. When you have entered all your criteria, you can click on "list reports" on the right side to run your search. Comments Research Bank Web is a simple but powerful service. On the positive side, you can create precision searches to retrieve individual pages. It is also quite nice to be able to combine a search with the MarkIntel and Industry Insider databases. We also appreciate the free keyword-in-context display and the very long archive, back to 1982. Our gripes include the fact that free-text searching is only available for reports since 1999, the lack of Investext's precision subject index codes--which have been available on the traditional online services and the premium price for purchasing individual pages. Research Bank Web vs. MultexNET On-Demand The bottom line is that both MultexNET On-Demand and Research Bank Web are very good products. We found Multex's product to be better designed and more intuitive to use. We particularly liked its financial screening function. But the trade-off is that you must purchase the entire report on Multex and, for most information professionals searching for a table, statistic or focused information, a full report is going to be more than is required. ********************************************************************** The Information Advisor, an international monthly journal founded in 1987, is a guide for information professionals, who rely on its articles to help them identify, compare and select the best business sources from the myriad of information products and services available, whether in print, on a professional database or on the Web. Readers include business librarians, information brokers, market researchers, knowledge managers, competitive intelligence professionals and other hands-on researchers and information specialists. The April issue is available to non-subscribers for $20. Contact Ms. Sonia Bedikian at (212) 633-4539 or sbedikian@findsvp.com for further details. Also published by The Information Advisor is the "Best of the Business Web" E-letter, a free monthly e-mail alert identifying the five best business research sites found by the editor every month. To sign up, visit: www.bestbizweb.com The Information Advisor is published by FIND/SVP, Inc. (FSVP-NASDAQ), the global business advisory, research and consulting firm ( www.findsvp.com.) From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Wed May 9 19:32:35 2001 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Tom Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: disabling windows scripting host Message-ID: <3AF9D393.BEFB2032@anaheim.lib.ca.us> http://www.sophos.com/support/faqs/wsh.html http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-04.html The above links were forwarded to me as an anti-virus measure. I thought it looked good enough to share. However, if you disable the Windows Scripting Host, applications that rely on this will not work. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Edelblute Public Access Systems Coordinator Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us From dan at riverofdata.com Wed May 9 19:47:37 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files In-Reply-To: <20010508121836.A11809@missouri.edu> References: <20010508121836.A11809@missouri.edu> Message-ID: <1101057561212.20010509174737@riverofdata.com> We use DeepFreeze. It restores everything to the original state on each reboot. Let the anal reference folks reboot them whenever they want. cheers dan Tuesday, May 08, 2001, 11:19:14 AM, you wrote: MP> On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: >> >> Block the use of Real Player :) >> On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your >> security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video MP> Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and MP> just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some MP> like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? MP> If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local MP> network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security MP> programs, or are there other issues involved? MP> Any thoughts? MP> -Mark -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From j.sutherland at ecu.edu.au Wed May 9 20:38:29 2001 From: j.sutherland at ecu.edu.au (John Sutherland) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: Scanner for ariel Message-ID: Hi, We are a small hospital library looking to acquire a scanner to work with ariel, does anyone have any recommendations beyond what is on the ariel website? Please reply directly to me rather than the list: john.sutherland@health.wa.gov.au John Sutherland From gzaxos at cc.uoi.gr Thu May 10 00:46:15 2001 From: gzaxos at cc.uoi.gr (George Zachos) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:17 2005 Subject: Physical vs. Virual union catalogues Message-ID: I am doing research on physical vs. virtual union library catalogues. I am especially interested on the future prospects of both of them. What is your opinion on this matter? Any recent work on this subject is wellcome. Thank you in advance!!! George George Zachos, M.Sc., Ph.D. University Librarian University of Ioannina Central Library P.O.Box 1186 GR-45110 Ioannina Greece Tel.: +30-651-97138 Fax:+30-651-97003 gzaxos@cc.uoi.gr http://www.lib.uoi.gr From cayz at lib.de.us Sat May 12 13:41:47 2001 From: cayz at lib.de.us (James Cayz) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:18 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] VGA signal boosters In-Reply-To: <3AFC4368.139AD373@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 May 2001, Tom Edelblute wrote: >In our computer lab we have a VGA video splitter so we can divide the >signal from the instructors PC to go to the Instructors monitor, a >projection device and a 34 inch monitor. > >The problem we currently have is that with the 34 inch monitor on the >oposite side of the room, we are running a very long video extension >where the signal is being degraded. I have not found anything in the >way of video boosting technologies like I currently have with my cable >television. Is there any signal boosting devices that anyone is using >with a VGA plug? >-- >Tom Edelblute >Public Access Systems Coordinator >Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 >500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 >Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us > Tom, I am assuming (and please correct if I'm wrong) that the splitter that you already have is nothing more than a wire-to-wire 1-to-2 cable. You *can* buy splitter / boosters. They *are* expensive. Black Box has them, starting at $334.95 for a one-to-two box. They go up to $1,255.95 for a 1-to-10 box. I'm sure thay aren't the only ones who make / sell them. See this page for more info & specs on the BB ones: http://catalog.blackbox.com/BlackBox/templates/blackbox/itemgroup341guest.asp?param=233&ig_id=341&title=VGA+Video+Splitters&related= (www.blackbox.com / Product Listing / Video & Mass Storage / Splitters / VGA Video Splitters) We have a pair of the two-channel ones, running through 6 & 50 feet of cable on each unit. The 50' cables run up to the RGB1 & 2 inputs for our ceiling mounted projector. They work fine. BB claims 250' range. Just make sure that all of your devices (video card, splitter, monitors, etc.) are all set to a common, valid video frequency, resolution, etc. The signal can really get messed on all outputs by just having one device "out of sync". I hope this helps. James +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James Cayz Telecommunications / Network Technologist I | | Email:cayz@lib.de.us Voice:302-739-4748 x130 Fax:302-739-6787 | | Delaware Division of Libraries # 43 S. DuPont Hwy / Dover, DE 19901-7430 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mgold at bway.net Sun May 20 19:02:55 2001 From: mgold at bway.net (Michael L. Gold) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:20 2005 Subject: creating a taxonomy Message-ID: Hi All I am the content librarian for a Wall Street firm and am working on Intranet categorization and organization. I am looking at a tool called Semio to create taxonomies and a Yahoo type hierarchy to access information on the Intranet. I have also seen on the LOC and Dewey web pages approaches to web collections using Library classifications and will be researching those further. I was wondering what other librarians were doing when it comes to organizing content on Internets and Intranets. In addition, does anyone subscribe to the ideas of the content life cycle - similar to the Knowledge Management lifecycle? Any input on the above would be greatly be appreciated. Thanks. Michael L. Gold mgold@bway.net home 516.409.5511 mobile 516.658.7667 URL http//www.bway.net/~mgold/ ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From bennetttm at appstate.edu Mon May 28 08:26:05 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:29 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Libweb and the Seven Year Itch In-Reply-To: <009e01c0e566$54ee4460$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> Message-ID: I think Thomas has enough to do (and does a great job) without having to chase down a website every time it moves. A responsible webmaster should inform people and sites before moving if possible. After moving use the free tools on the web to submit your new URL to the search engines. If you are a webmaster on this list then you should be familiar with Libweb and think to send Mr. Dowling a note that your URL has changed and the new URL. IMHO any list like this is for mutual support and should be used as such, you don't have to be just a listener. Thanks Thomas, Roy, Karen, and Bernie, the W4L Advisory Board and list owner, for your continued support and work. Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Nancy Sosna Bohm Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Libweb and the Seven Year Itch >... However, I have the > time and inclination to do only a very little poking: sites that turn out > to be unfindable get deleted from the directory. This is especially > likely to happen with public libraries whose pages live at commercial > ISPs. When you move from there, there's usually no pointer to where > you've gone, and no obvious parent web site that might provide the new > link. I've actually deleted more sites than I've added over the last few > weeks - a good reason to get a reasonable domain name and stick with it. You don't just do a Google search for the missing Library page by titles? From library at cryptic.rch.unimelb.edu.au Sun May 6 20:17:23 2001 From: library at cryptic.rch.unimelb.edu.au (Vicki Falkland) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:51 2005 Subject: Killing the IE splash at bootup Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010507101723.006c104c@cryptic.rch.unimelb.edu.au> Hi folks, IE is installed on one of our public access systems, but we prefer our patrons to use Netscape (for reasons of our own). If i can kill the bootup splash screen for IE, i won't need to uninstall it completely. Is there an .ini file or a registry key somewhere in win95 that i can edit to prevent the IE (ver5) splash screen from popping up every time the system boots? TIA, Vicki ____________________________________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= J.W. Grieve Library Royal Children's Hospital Flemington Rd Parkville, VIC, 3052 Australia -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ph: 61 3 9345 5108 fax: 61 3 9347 8421 email: library@cryptic.rch.unimelb.edu.au URL: http://www.rch.unimelb.edu.au/library ____________________________________________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From dan at riverofdata.com Fri May 11 09:49:24 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Setting default telnet client in IE5.5 In-Reply-To: <211982100.20010510114542@riverofdata.com> References: <211982100.20010510114542@riverofdata.com> Message-ID: <325309212.20010511074924@riverofdata.com> Thursday, May 10, 2001, 11:57:48 AM, you wrote: DL> In older versions of IE there was a setting for your choice of default DL> telnet client. That doesn't seem to exist in IE5.5. How can we set DL> this? Registry hacks acceptable, but not preferred. Thanks to all for the information answering our question. The three of us here all said "well, duuuuhhhhh.....we know that" when we read the multitude of replies both on and off list. We can only attribute our "senior moments" to being elderly and it being the last day of finals of a rough semester. Thanks again, dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From kgs at bluehighways.com Fri May 11 10:10:12 2001 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: Webcasting input sought Message-ID: For my next column in American Libraries, I am going to write about webcasting (audio and/or video)--something I've been playing with and enjoying the "possibilitiness" of. Has your library or library-based business created webcasts? Are you planning to? What uses do you see for webcasting (staff resources, public information, instruction...)? Are you using some of the "free" encoding products now available, did you purchase software, are you using special servers? Did you come across issues related to format (e.g. Realplayer vs. Windows Media) and how did you resolve them? What recording hardware are you using (recorders, mikes, peripherals, etc.)? If you would like to share your webcasting experiences, questions, success stories, or lessons learned, email me no later than Friday, May 18, at kgs@bluehighways.com, and be sure to include your name, organization, and state or country. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com Assistant Director for Technology Shenendehowa Public Library www.shenpublib.org From gprice at gwu.edu Fri May 11 13:39:59 2001 From: gprice at gwu.edu (gprice) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: Update:(Week 10) The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk Message-ID: <3AFCB37A@webmail2.gwu.edu> The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk New and Useful Web Sites, Industry News, Full-Text Docs of Interest to the Info Professional http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com ---- 5/11/01 REMEMBER, this e-mail update is an abridged version of what you will find on the weblog. Feel free to stop by THROUGHOUT the week for new resources and news of interest to the information professional. Thanks for the continued support! If I can be of assistance, you know where to find me. Cheers, gary p.s. Links to past VAS&ND (archived postings) can be found in the left column of the weblog page. ---------------- Weekly Highlights #10 The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com ---- Thursday, May 10, 2001 Database of the Day--Invisible Web Salary Data--U.S. and International SalaryExpert.Com Information provided by Baker, Thomsen Associates. Select job title (several hundred) and limit by zip code or state. Web Based Research Tools--Questia Layoffs At Questia Source: Newsbytes Canada Resource Shelf (2 Items) Retail New Web Site: RetailInteractive.Ca >From the site, "Retail Council of Canada and Industry Canada have partnered to develop and publish retailinteractive.ca, a pipeline to practical, hands-on business information, resources and tools designed especially for Canada's retailers. Used properly, this site can give retailers the competitive edge they need to run their operations more effectively and profitably." & Electricity Industry Canadian Electricity Trends and Issues --- Wednesday, May 9, 2001 Education--Statistics Internet Usage--Statistics Internet Access in U.S. Public Schools and Classrooms: 1994-2000 Climate--United States--Fast Facts Comparative Climatic Data - Review Digital Information--Opinion A Must Read! "Assault on Paper, or Assault on Librarians? Barbara Quint Takes On Nicholson Baker" Source: InfoToday Newsbreaks ---- Monday, May 7, 2001 Information Visualization More On WebMap New Reading Material SearchDay Newsletter Full-Text Document Shelf (1 Item) Transportation--Traffic--United States Traffic--Statistics 2001 Urban Mobility Report ---- Saturday, May 5, 2001 Useful Web Compilations Weather Information WXUSA & Weatherhub Environment--Ozone New Web Site: NOAA Debuts Ozone Info Web Resource ---- Friday, May 4, 2001 Interesting Reading A Series of Articles From IT-Director.Com "From Taxonomy to the Semantic Web" "Taxonomy: Creating Knowledge from Chaos" "The Missing Links-The Navigation Alternatives" Australian Resource Shelf (1 Item) Venture Capital Venture Capital Survey ---- Thursday, May 3, 2001 Professional Reading "Smashing the Silos: Towards Convergence in Information Management and Resource Discovery" by: Warwick Cathro (National Library of Australia) You May Have Missed News Alerts--American City Business Journals Search Watch from Bizjournals.Com ---- http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com End Week #10 Update Gary D. Price, MLIS Librarian Information Consultant, George Washington University gprice@gwu.edu Looking for Info Industry News? New Search Resources? New Web Accessible Documents? Visit The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com From prx000 at mail.connect.more.net Fri May 11 15:26:55 2001 From: prx000 at mail.connect.more.net (Mike Novak) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: IE 5.5 print preview and frames Message-ID: <001f01c0da50$5729cd10$4a0eb8cc@ucpl.lib.mo.us> Greetings... I've started migrating over from the years-old Navigator stand alone to Teamsoft's Public Web Browser (based on IE 5.5.). Because we charge for printing, we encourage patrons to do a "Print Preivew" before printing. It's been brought to my attention that when you do a print preview in IE (and hence PWB) on a page with frames, the entire text of a long frame is not shown, instead a scroll bar is shown on the side of the frame and "page 1 of 1" is shown on the previewed page. However if you print the document, you get the entire frame contents. A search of the MS knowledge base returned Article Q255966, which says simply "This behavior is by design." Am I the only one who thinks this behavior is a little strange? Wouldn't it be nice if the Print Preview was actually a Preview of the Print? Or am I missing something? Mike Novak Technology Coordinator & Reference Librarian University City Public Library From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri May 11 15:43:08 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IE 5.5 print preview and frames References: <001f01c0da50$5729cd10$4a0eb8cc@ucpl.lib.mo.us> Message-ID: <002601c0da52$9bf9b2a0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > ... It's been brought to my attention that when you do a print > preview in IE (and hence PWB) on a page with frames, the entire text of a > long frame is not shown, instead a scroll bar is shown on the side of the > frame and "page 1 of 1" is shown on the previewed page. However if you > print the document, you get the entire frame contents. A search of the MS > knowledge base returned Article Q255966, which says simply "This behavior is > by design." Am I the only one who thinks this behavior is a little strange? > Wouldn't it be nice if the Print Preview was actually a Preview of the > Print? Or am I missing something? > That must be why it's fixed in IE6b1 :-) Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From dbell at loc.gov Fri May 11 15:44:15 2001 From: dbell at loc.gov (danna bell-russel) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: Announcement of Irving Fine Collection on American Memory Message-ID: <3AFC410F.806A2C8B@loc.gov> Good afternoon This announcement is being sent to a number of lists. Please accept our apologies for any duplicate postings. Irving Fine Collection Now available on American Memory. The work of Irving Fine, composer, conductor, writer and academic is now represented online as part of the American Memory online collections. This first release of materials coincides with the Music Division's concert tribute to Fine scheduled this evening at the Coolidge Auditorium of the Library of Congress. The Irving Fine collection can be found at the following url: Called a "remarkable American composer" by noted music lexicographer Nicolas Slonimsky, Irving Fine (1914-1962) was included in the so-called "American Stravinsky School"' by fellow composer and longtime friend Aaron Copland (1900-1990). Fine, whose compositional output was influenced by the music of Igor Stravinsky (1882-1971) and Paul Hindemith (1895-1963), died prematurely in 1962, thereby cutting short one of the most promising careers in twentieth-century American classical music. Fine's early, neoclassic works include his Music for Piano (1947) and Partita for Wind Quintet (1948). His later romantic style is represented by the orchestral works Notturno (1951) and Serious Song (1955), both often programmed by orchestras to this day. The most frequently performed of his choral works are Alice in Wonderland (1942), The Hour Glass (1949), and The Choral New Yorker (1944). With the completion of his String Quartet in 1952, it appears that Fine was able to combine his earlier tonal approach to music writing with the then new technique of "serialism," or twelve-tone technique. Fine taught music theory and history at Harvard University from 1939 to 1950 and music theory and composition at Brandeis University from 1950 to 1962. He also taught composition at the Berkshire Music Festival at Tanglewood from 1946 to 1957. This first online release of The Irving Fine Collection includes a selection of 57 photographs of Irving Fine (many of them with other notable musicians at Tanglewood and elsewhere). A special presentation consists of manuscript sketches and the score for the String Quartet, along with a recorded performance of this work by the Juilliard String Quartet. In addition, the site includes a timeline of the composer's life as well as the finding aid for the complete collection. Irving Fine's career is documented in the Library of Congress Music Division by approximately 4,350 items from the Irving Fine Collection. These materials were collected by the composer's widow, Verna Fine, who maintained a long relationship with the Music Division of the Library of Congress to which she donated the materials in stages just before and after the composer's death. She tirelessly devoted herself to promoting her husband's music until her own death in 2000. The collection contains manuscript and printed music, sketchbooks, writings, and personal and business correspondence from such twentieth-century musical luminaries as Leonard Bernstein (1918-1990), Aaron Copland, Lukas Foss (b. 1922), Alberto Ginastera (1916-1983), Ned Rorem (b. 1923), and William Schuman (1910-1992). The archival collection also contains scrapbooks, programs, clippings, and sound recordings. Please direct any questions to ndlpcoll@loc.gov From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Fri May 11 15:54:16 2001 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Tom Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: VGA signal boosters Message-ID: <3AFC4368.139AD373@anaheim.lib.ca.us> In our computer lab we have a VGA video splitter so we can divide the signal from the instructors PC to go to the Instructors monitor, a projection device and a 34 inch monitor. The problem we currently have is that with the 34 inch monitor on the oposite side of the room, we are running a very long video extension where the signal is being degraded. I have not found anything in the way of video boosting technologies like I currently have with my cable television. Is there any signal boosting devices that anyone is using with a VGA plug? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Edelblute Public Access Systems Coordinator Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Fri May 11 18:02:13 2001 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Physical vs. Virual union catalogues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To my way of thinking, virtual union catalogs are what you do when you can't do a physical union catalog. Virtual union catalogs have a set of problems that are more difficult to solve than with actual union catalogs. For example, de-duping (merging records that are for the same item). If you go search some large virtual union catalogs (for example, http://www.aclin.org/ or http://www.mnlink.org/) for an item you should quickly see what I mean. Multiple records come back for the same book, since records from different libraries are not merged. Merging records on the fly can be considerably more difficult than merging them in a batch-load operation -- particularly since there is no time to iron out problems that cause near-duplicate records not to merge. This alone is a serious enough issue to my way of thinking to make virtual union catalogs a *last* resort. But for an actual study on this issue, I don't think you can do better than an article by my colleague Karen Coyle, that ran recently in D-Lib Magazine: "The Virtual Union Catalog: A Comparative Study" (http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march00/coyle/03coyle.html). She found that VUCs came up seriously short (in a nutshell). Roy At 10:04 PM -0700 5/9/01, George Zachos wrote: >I am doing research on physical vs. virtual union library catalogues. I am >especially interested on the future prospects of both of them. > >What is your opinion on this matter? > >Any recent work on this subject is wellcome. > >Thank you in advance!!! > >George > >George Zachos, M.Sc., Ph.D. >University Librarian >University of Ioannina >Central Library >P.O.Box 1186 >GR-45110 Ioannina >Greece >Tel.: +30-651-97138 Fax:+30-651-97003 >gzaxos@cc.uoi.gr >http://www.lib.uoi.gr From dan at riverofdata.com Sat May 12 01:20:06 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IE 5.5 print preview and frames In-Reply-To: <001f01c0da50$5729cd10$4a0eb8cc@ucpl.lib.mo.us> References: <001f01c0da50$5729cd10$4a0eb8cc@ucpl.lib.mo.us> Message-ID: <17716552170.20010511232006@riverofdata.com> Yes, it is fixed in 6.x, but better yet, train your patrons to block the text they want to print. That is particularly helpful if what they want to print crosses a page break in print preview. It also means there's no extra garbage they don't want to see. And, it is easier and quicker than messing with print preview. cheers dan Friday, May 11, 2001, 1:28:08 PM, you wrote: MN> Greetings... I've started migrating over from the years-old Navigator stand MN> alone to Teamsoft's Public Web Browser (based on IE 5.5.). Because we MN> charge for printing, we encourage patrons to do a "Print Preivew" before MN> printing. It's been brought to my attention that when you do a print MN> preview in IE (and hence PWB) on a page with frames, the entire text of a MN> long frame is not shown, instead a scroll bar is shown on the side of the MN> frame and "page 1 of 1" is shown on the previewed page. However if you MN> print the document, you get the entire frame contents. A search of the MS MN> knowledge base returned Article Q255966, which says simply "This behavior is MN> by design." Am I the only one who thinks this behavior is a little strange? MN> Wouldn't it be nice if the Print Preview was actually a Preview of the MN> Print? Or am I missing something? -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From davidcj at MIT.EDU Thu May 17 08:51:39 2001 From: davidcj at MIT.EDU (David Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: Search for Assistant/Associate Director Information Technology Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010517084600.00b3c6c0@po10.mit.edu> For those with an interest in a Senior Library Management Position, MIT Libraries is commencing a search for an Assistant or Associate Director for Information Technology. The position is described at the following web site: http://libraries.mit.edu/admin/adtech.htm From mooredp at email.uah.edu Thu May 17 10:15:43 2001 From: mooredp at email.uah.edu (David Moore) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: library newsletters on the web? References: <200105162255.PAA17571@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <00d901c0dedb$dc2b4040$0f16e592@uah.edu> Roger, The url below is probably what you are looking for: http://libaxp.hartford.edu/llr/alinusin.htm >From the website: ALiNUS is an Internet gateway to more than 600 online academic library newsletters published by US institutions of higher education. The primary purpose of the ALiNUS Directory is to encourage communication among academic librarians. The prototype of this active database is the listing provided by the College Libraries Section, The Association of College & Research Libraries. David P. Moore Electronic Resources Librarian M. Louis Salmon Library University of Alabama in Huntsville Huntsville, AL 35899 256-824-6285 FAX: 256-824-6083 mooredp@email.uah.edu http://www.uah.edu/library ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:57:06 -0700 > From: "Harrison, Roger" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: library newsletters on the web? > Message-ID: <878426F37FAED311890C009027CC888506AD54E8@exch3.Fullerton.EDU> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Has anyone ever compiled a list of library newsletters available on the web? > I notice that many libraries now publish their newsletters on their sites, > either in HTML or PDF. > > Roger Harrison, Network Analyst > CSU Fullerton, Pollak Library > P.O. Box 4150 > Fullerton, CA 92834-4150 > Voice: 714-278-2666 Fax: 714-278-1333 > http://rharrison.fullerton.edu/ > mailto:rharrison@fullerton.edu > > ------------------------------ From omalleye at emmanuel.edu Thu May 17 11:06:11 2001 From: omalleye at emmanuel.edu (Elena O'Malley) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: SIRSI / DRA Message-ID: FYI: "SIRSI to Acquire Data Research Associates" http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010517/cgth015.html Elena O'Malley, Technology Librarian, Cardinal Cushing Library Emmanuel College, 400 The Fenway, Boston, MA 02115 omalleye@emmanuel.edu From digiref at loc.gov Thu May 17 12:44:22 2001 From: digiref at loc.gov (digiref@loc.gov) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: Interactive Sessions on E-Reference, ALA Message-ID: Register Now for E-Reference Interactive Sessions at ALA The Library of Congress, OCLC, LSSI, and RUSA invite you to join your colleagues at the June ALA meeting in San Francisco and on the Web to shape the future for e-reference services for libraries. Two 2-hour interactive sessions will be held on Saturday, June 16, at 1:00pm and 3:30pm at the Hyatt Regency San Francisco, Embarcadero Center. The interactive sessions will be an exciting venue of game show voting, audience interviewing, and Web polling and chatting about the value and promise of e-reference services. Diane Kresh, project director for the Collaborative Digital Reference Service (CDRS) at the Library of Congress, will be on hand to describe the latest plans for CDRS and how this e-reference service is making a real difference for its members. For more information about CDRS, please see Diane's feature article in the February issue of Cahners Library Journal and the CDRS Web site at: http://www.loc.gov/cdrs The sessions promise to be informative, and a fun and memorable experience for all. Space is limited, so register today at: https://www3.oclc.org/app/cdrs/ We look forward to your active participation in this exciting event! From koliver at mail.jhmi.edu Thu May 17 15:10:30 2001 From: koliver at mail.jhmi.edu (Kate Oliver) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: Position Open Message-ID: The Welch Library at Johns Hopkins University is recruiting for an open position in the Communications and Liaison Services Department. We are looking for a person with expertise in a biomedical science discipline. A more detailed description of the position and its requirements follows. COMMUNICATIONS LIBRARIAN (M01-2695) Acts as Welch Medical Library liaison to assigned Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions departments. Offers special expertise in the basic biomedical sciences providing needs assessment, information services and instruction to faculty, staff, and students. Leads the librarys web site content development and maintenance efforts with a focus on the relevant application of new functions, services, and technology and driven by identified user information needs. Participates in library sponsored instruction, and provides reference services. Master of Library Sciences degree from an accredited school of library and information science. Prior experience in an academic health or biomedical library or clinical environment. Background in basic biomedical sciences required. A degree in a biomedical science preferred. Experience in the use of information technologies and information management tools preferred. Analytical and searching skills and an understanding of literature database structure required. Presentation and instruction skills preferred. Computer skills should include working knowledge of html editing and other web site management software. Excellent interpersonal, oral and written communication skills required. The University offers an excellent benefits package, including a customized choice of health care plans, an exceptional retirement plan, 22 vacation days per year, and educational assistance programs for staff and their dependents. Minimum salary range is $39,000 $49,000, based on experience. Qualified candidates should send CV and cover letter Lyndie Vantine, Sr. Human Resources Coordinator, Welch Medical Library, The Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, 1900 E. Monument Street, Baltimore, MD 21205. E/O/E M/F/H From DLB at gml.lib.uwm.edu Thu May 17 15:46:50 2001 From: DLB at gml.lib.uwm.edu (Denise Babin) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: Position announcement: Digital Library Project Manager Message-ID: Please forgive the cross-posting. Digital Library Project Manager (Fixed Term Academic Staff Position) Golda Meir Library seeks an innovative individual to oversee a new digital initiative pilot project at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Golda Meir Library. This is an opportunity to work in a dynamic changing digital environment to enhance library services and resources in support of scholarship and research. Project team consists of the Project Manager working with liaisons in Technical Services, Public Services, Automation and student assistants to plan and develop procedures and complete selected pilot projects. The intent is to define a program that is scalable and sustainable. Position Summary: Enhance the Library's role in electronic scholarly communications through effective and responsive digitization, dissemination, and long-term storage of resource materials from the Library's collections. The Project Manager will report to the Head of Automation and be responsible for starting a digitizing operation to make selected library collections available in electronic format to students, faculty, scholars and the community. Duties and Responsibilities: 35% Meet established timeline to process and complete selected projects. 30% Project management, including establishing plans with timelines and producing reports and estimating resource requirements for each project. Supervise student assistants to complete selected pilot projects. 10% Develop appropriate benchmarking and quality control standards for each project. 10% Create coherent infrastructure for image creation, storage, retrieval, and presentation of large collections of digital materials; 10% Work collaboratively across library departments with staff to resolve issues, including networking, hardware, software, technology platforms, security, metadata creation, workflow, quality control and preservation of digital media. Foster a climate of collaboration, experimentation, and creativity 5% Maintain accurate statistics to measure resources usage Qualifications: Required: Bachelor's degree in library science, information science, management or related field. Project management skills and experience. Knowledge of emerging digital technologies and the ability to apply them within the research library environment. Basic computer skills including Microsoft Office applications. Understanding of electronic library standards, including knowledge of MARC format, XML, and EAD. Knowledge of the process of development and implementation of digital-library-related projects. Excellent communication and interpersonal skills. Preferred/Desired: ALA-accredited MLS/MLIS, and experience in Web-based information delivery. Salary and Appointment: Administrative Program Specialist. Fixed term academic staff appointment, salary range 5 ($38,882 annually) Benefits include paid vacation and sick time, health and life insurance. Application: Please submit letter of application, resume, transcripts, names/addresses/phone numbers of three current references to: Maureen Powless, Head of Personnel, Golda Meir Library, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, PO Box 604, Milwaukee, WI 53201. Applications must be postmarked by June 1, 2001. UWM is an AA/EO employer strongly committed to maintaining a climate supporting equality of opportunity and respect for difference based on gender, culture, ethnicity, disability, and sexual orientation. We particularly encourage applications from individuals who would enhance and diversify our workforce. Denise Babin Head of Automation Golda Meir Library University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee dbabin@uwm.edu 414-229-5979 fax 414-229-6766 From euan.morton at xrxgsn.com Thu May 17 16:02:39 2001 From: euan.morton at xrxgsn.com (Euan Morton) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:55 2005 Subject: FW: Web is 10 years old ! Message-ID: <004001c0df0c$53608550$d022fc0d@eng.mc.xerox.com> http://www.w3.org/History.html 17 May 1991 General release of WWW on central CERN machines. best Euan Morton, CIBER @ Xerox Web Developer, Xerox Global Service Net From mpugh at orcaslibrary.org Sat May 19 14:51:14 2001 From: mpugh at orcaslibrary.org (Mary Pugh) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:56 2005 Subject: SunOS/BoxPoison virus Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010519114301.00af99d0@libserver.orcaslibrary.org> Bad News Bears! We were hit with the SunOS/BoxPoison vius on our Dynix WebPac server. Our virus scanner caught it before any real damage. I have checked the McAfee and the CERT advisory and I still don't understand how this virus is spread. I did not pay great attention to the bulletin I received because we use NT and not Sun. It appears we needed a patch for our IIS and that is now fixed. But how does this thing work, where did it spread from? Mary Pugh Orcas Island Library District Network Administrator 500 Rose Street 360.376.4985 Eastsound, WA 98245 360.376.5750 fax www.orcaslibrary.org From glasgowdelegate at hotmail.com Sat May 19 16:36:04 2001 From: glasgowdelegate at hotmail.com (glasgow delegate) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:56 2005 Subject: Attending IFLA 2002 in Glasgow next year? Message-ID: If you are attending IFLA 2002 in Glasgow next year, then you may be interested in the Glasgow Delegate, a steadily growing web site for delegates attending library-related conferences and events in Glasgow. http://www.ifla2002.org/ At the heart of the site are a small number of guides concerning different aspects of Glasgow. However, most people appear to be skipping these and going straight to the gallery of pictures of Glasgow: http://www.ifla2002.org/gallery/all-thumbs.htm Enjoy! Yours, Glasgow Delegate _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From JJames at lva.lib.va.us Sat May 19 21:20:25 2001 From: JJames at lva.lib.va.us (Julie James) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:56 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] SunOS/BoxPoison virus Message-ID: <3B7104134F9BD311BEB80050041F8CE0013E4BA9@lva.lib.va.us> It's a worm http://vil.nai.com/vil/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99085 " Method Of Infection Infected machines scan random IP addresses looking for other systems to infect. When one is found, a buffer overflow exploit is used to compromise that computer which then propagates the virus as well. " ~~~ Julie James Technology Consultant The Library of Virginia 804/692-0800 jjames@lva.lib.va.us -----Original Message----- From: Mary Pugh To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 5/19/01 2:54 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] SunOS/BoxPoison virus Bad News Bears! We were hit with the SunOS/BoxPoison vius on our Dynix WebPac server. Our virus scanner caught it before any real damage. I have checked the McAfee and the CERT advisory and I still don't understand how this virus is spread. I did not pay great attention to the bulletin I received because we use NT and not Sun. It appears we needed a patch for our IIS and that is now fixed. But how does this thing work, where did it spread from? Mary Pugh Orcas Island Library District Network Administrator 500 Rose Street 360.376.4985 Eastsound, WA 98245 360.376.5750 fax www.orcaslibrary.org From doug_doremus at standardandpoors.com Wed May 30 09:39:31 2001 From: doug_doremus at standardandpoors.com (doug_doremus@standardandpoors.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: Doug Doremus/SP/FIS is out of the office. Message-ID: <200105301338.GAA15373@webjunction.org> I will be out of the office from 05/30/2001 until 05/31/2001. I will have limited access to e-mail, but you may leave a message on my voicemail at 212-438-1377. From coffmanfyi at earthlink.net Wed May 30 11:19:43 2001 From: coffmanfyi at earthlink.net (Stephen Coffman) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: What to Help Shape the Future of the Collaborative Digital Referenc e Service? Message-ID: <382883760.991235983743.JavaMail.root@web624-wrb.mail.com> You've probably heard about the new Collaborative Digital Reference Service --- we are a group of libraries and librarians from around the world working together to develop world-class digital reference services on the Net. We have over 100 members now, and they include libraries of all types from the large national libraries such as the Library of Congress and the British Library, academic libraries like Cornell and the University of Illinois, as well as public libraries of all shapes and sizes. But that is not enough. At CDRS, we take the word 'collaborative' very seriously --- and that is why we would like to hear from you --- the thousands of reference librarians, library directors, and others with an interest in digital reference who have not yet had an opportunity to share your thoughts and opinions on this critical issue. We would like invite all of you to join us for one of two live interactive sessions called "What Is It Worth to You: The CRDS Interactive Sessions” that we will be holding during the ALA Annual Conference in San Francisco on Saturday, June 16th from 1:00-3:00 PST and again from 3:30-5:30 PST at the Holiday Inn Financial District, 750 Kearny Street, 3rd Floor: Chinese Culture Center. These sessions are sponsored by CDRS, the Library of Congress, LSSI Virtual Reference Services and OCLC, and will give you an opportunity to express your opinions on key issues using live real-time audience survey technology. Here's the way it will work. We will first ask you to 'vote' on a series of questions regarding CDRS and various ways it might be packaged. You will cast your vote using an electronic handset similar to those used in movie previews or by clicking on a Web form (more about that in a minute). Voting results will be tabulated and displayed immediately and then we can all discuss what they might mean. Now we really wanted to make sure that as many of you as possible had a chance to attend these sessions ... so if you will not be coming to ALA, you will still be able to attend a live, online version of the CDRS Interactive Sessions using LSSI's Virtual Reference Software. The online sessions will also be 'broadcast' from the Holiday Inn and will take place at the same time as the live sessions. You will be able to vote on the same questions the San Francisco audience is voting on and your results will also be tabulated and displayed in real time. You will be able to ask questions of the presenters using live chat, and we've got some fast typists that will keep you up on the discussion taking place in the room. So, remember you now have two ways to participate ... 1. If you will be coming to San Francisco, and would like to join us live 'in the flesh' at the Holiday Inn, click here to register for the session of your choice on the OCLC site. https://www3.oclc.org/app/cdrs/ 2. If you are not coming to San Francisco and would like to join us live and online click here to register on the LSSI site. http://www.lssi.com/virtual/cdrs/ No matter how you join us, we want to thank you for helping to shape the future of digital reference, and we are all looking forward to meeting you ... either in person, or online ... at the CDRS Interactive Sessions this June. Sincerely, Your Colleagues at CDRS From libmill at isugw.indstate.edu Wed May 30 12:43:28 2001 From: libmill at isugw.indstate.edu (Marsha Miller) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: search engine presentation Message-ID: greetings from Indiana State University. i so rarely get a chance to present basic internet information anymore! but i was invited to present on 'search engines' to a counseling graduate class, 'information technology for student affairs professionals', a 3-week course packed with info! http://online.indstate.edu/courses/COUN595Y/ [login/id: guest/guest] i had most of 3 hours [with breaks] to go thru this info... wow! I got a lot of good ideas/links from web4lib, so in case you need a very simple approach to search engines, take a look at http://cml.indstate.edu/~libmill/willsurf.html note: when we got to the ISU handouts/website 'slide', we used it to do a number of sample searches before we moved on. ps: if you want to see my portals .ppt presentation for the same class, go to http://cml.indstate.edu/~libmill/portals2nd_files/v3_document.htm enjoy! Marsha Miller Instruction Librarian Indiana State University Terre Haute IN 47809 812 237 2606 marshamiller@indstate.edu Library: http://odin.indstate.edu From lindab at mabc.edu Wed May 30 15:04:32 2001 From: lindab at mabc.edu (Linda Bollenbacher) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: Job Opening Message-ID: <3B154440.36675F09@mabc.edu> Position: Mid-America Bible College, a private, four-year Bible college with an enrollment of 700 students, committed to academic excellence and located in Oklahoma City, invites applications for the position of Systems/Multi-Media Librarian. Duties: Manages library?s electronic services, automation system, and web site; works with library staff in addressing automation, training, and computing issues; participates in the planning, development, and maintenance of online library resources for traditional and distance education programs; troubleshoots library computers; acquires, maintains and troubleshoots AV equipment and trains faculty on usage of AV mediums; shares in reference service and bibliographic instruction as needed. Qualifications: M. L. S. or its equivalent; minimum two years experience in academic library; working knowledge of technology, including computers and AV teaching mediums in an academic setting; experience with library systems; knowledge and experience in web page development; knowledge of computer systems, networking basics, emerging technologies; experience with standard personal computing programs; some teaching and training experience; excellent leadership, communication and interpersonal skills; initiative; problem-solving and organizational skills; ability to work independently and collegially in a team environment. Salary: Full benefits package including retirement plan, health insurance, 12 paid holidays, 4 weeks vacation; salary commensurate with qualifications and experience. Twelve month, full-time position; faculty status. To Apply: Send cover letter, resume, unofficial copies of transcripts, and the names and telephone numbers of three references to: Dr. Ron Roddy, Academic Dean, Mid-America Bible College, 3500 SW 119th St., Oklahoma City, OK 73170 Review of applicants will begin immediately and continue until the position is filled. Mid-America Bible College is an equal opportunity employer. -- Linda Bollenbacher, Library Director Mid-America Bible College mailto://lindab@mabc.edu ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From davidcj at MIT.EDU Wed May 30 13:11:02 2001 From: davidcj at MIT.EDU (David Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Computer Technology staffing at Research Libraries Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010530130816.0186ec40@po10.mit.edu> I am re-posting this request in the hope that a few MORE very kind library technology folks will respond now that exam period at the colleges is drawing to a close. I have only one Academic Research Library response, and one from a community library so far. If you have a few minutes, I would appreciate any information you can give me... Thanks!!! Our Libraries at MIT are in the process of planning and investigating possible options for structuring technical computer hardware/software support to the libraries. We would like to gain your thoughts and insights from experience in your library. Perhaps there already are publications on this topic as well which would give some very up-to-date quantitative information. If so, we would love to know what is out there with shich you might be familiar. We are really looking for material or information from the year 2000 or 2001, not 1990's information. We have 11 libraries with 2.5 million items all in Cambridge Massachusetts, and several options for digital delivery, storage, and database/e-jounal subscriptions. Staffing of positions for the libraries in the hardware/software areas is a curious and challenging issue for us. We are most curious about how other leading academic research libraries have tackled the staffing issue. Ideally we would like to see organizational charts, etc. But we will certainly settle for what we can get here! Please don't feel you have to spend all day and all night answering these general questions. Ballpark figures are better than none. Feel free to leave out answers about money if you don't know or can't disclose that. Feel free also to send this material directly to me if you do not want others on this list to see it. Thanks David Johnson Library Technology Consultant MIT Libraries 77 Mass Ave Room 14-0615 Cambridge, MA 02139 617-253-9327 ********************************************************************* If some of you kind folk in academic research libraries, (like those at major colleges and universities), would give us the low-down on how you are put together, we would be mighty appreciative. Here are some questions In your college or university setting: How many Students are there ? Undergrad/ Graduate/ Total How many Campuses? In how many different cities/towns are these campuses in? How many total items does your library have in in its holdings? How many library FTE's (full time equivilent employees) How many total square feet of floor space if known? How many FTE's in computer/network support on library payroll? How many web design/digital rights management software/ database management/ other software specialist type FTE's on library payroll? What do you call them? Do you have job descriptions you can share to help us define and relate our staff positions to yours? How many dollars are spent per year by library budget on just hardware? How does this break down? How many dollars are spent per year on FTE's (personnel costs with fringe) for computer/network hardware/software support? Does this include digital rights management? Web support? etc. How many FTE MLS librarian positions are on the library payroll? What outside support, development, management or other hardware, software, programming, troubleshooting, repair, or other services are availabe to you and at what dollar cost to the libraries? For example, the university computer "server farm" or "data center" may house and maintain the servers used by your library management system along with the academic records computers, accounting and business services mainframes for the entire college. Another example would be hiring a web design consultant firm to design the web pages for your library. Again, this is work performed on behalf of the libraries, but work that is not done by library staff members. This might be either a "hidden" cost or a hidden "in kind" contribution to the library's bottom line. Any light you can shed on these values and costs would be helpful. Thanks in advance for your information! David Johnson Library Technology Consultant MIT Libraries 77 Mass Ave Room 14-0615 Cambridge, MA 02139 617-253-9327 From cagimon at mplib.org Wed May 30 13:23:22 2001 From: cagimon at mplib.org (Gimon, Charles A) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: How to Read a 10Q: Yahoo Message-ID: For those of you who haven't been following the series, NetSlaves is featuring Yahoo in the latest installment of its "How to Read a 10Q" series: http://www.netslaves.com/comments/990898532.shtml --Charles Gimon Web Coordinator Minneapolis Public Library From vrdconf at ericir.syr.edu Wed May 30 13:19:49 2001 From: vrdconf at ericir.syr.edu (VRD Conference) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: VRD 2001 Student Paper Competition Reminder Message-ID: ello, This is a reminder that the deadline to submit a paper for the VRD 2001 Student Paper Competition is June 29, 2001. The competition is open to all graduate students in the fields of library and information science. Details are included below and are available online at http://vrd.org/conferences/VRD2001/student.html. Please contact vrdconf@vrd.org with any questions. Thank you, Abby Kasowitz ------------------------------------- VRD 2001 Conference Call for Student Papers The Virtual Reference Desk 3rd Annual Digital Reference Conference Setting Standards and Making it Real November 12-13, 2001 - Orlando, Florida, USA CALL FOR STUDENT PAPERS The Virtual Reference Desk invites graduate students in the fields of library and information science to submit proposals for the VRD 2001 Student Paper Competition. The purpose of this competition is to highlight exemplary graduate student research or thesis work in the area of digital reference. Interested students are invited to submit a paper for consideration by June 29, 2001, along with a letter from an advisor verifying student status. All student submissions will be notified of acceptance no later than August 15, 2001. The author of the best student paper will win one free registration and free transportation to the VRD 3rd Annual Digital Reference Conference in Orlando, FL, where he/she will present the paper before an international audience. The winner(s) will be honored during an awards ceremony at the conference, and the paper will be published in the conference proceedings. The third annual VRD conference will highlight digital reference service in a variety of contexts: libraries and information centers, government, business, education, etc. This conference will explore the nature of Internet-based question-and-answer service as well as the specific issues involved in providing all types of digital reference service. For more information on the VRD annual conference, please see the conference Web site at http://www.vrd.org/VRD2001. Conference themes include: ·Technology for Digital Reference - Real-time/live reference, software solutions ·Digital Reference Service Management - Service development, policy, evaluation, staffing, marketing ·General Issues in Digital Reference - Partnerships, legal and ethical issues, current research, case studies ·Digital Reference Resources - Search tools and services, online resources, assessment methods ·Standards for Digital Reference - Quality criteria, technology standards, interoperability DEADLINES: Student papers will be accepted until June 29, 2001 (see submission instructions below). The winning student will be notified by August 15, 2001. PAPER SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: Papers should be 8-12 pages, double-spaced. For parenthetical citations, use the author-date system, as recommended by the APA Publication Manual. Acquiring permission to quote or to use illustrative material from both published (in copyright) and unpublished material is the responsibility of each author. Papers should reflect conference themes and can include descriptions of projects or services, proposals for research to be conducted or results of previously-conducted research, etc. Please include author’s name, institution, address, phone, fax, e-mail, brief biographical information, and a letter from an advisor verifying student status. Please e-mail your paper to the VRD Conference Committee (vrdconf@vrd.org) by June 29, 2001. ****************************************************** The VRD 2001 Annual Digital Reference Conference is hosted by the Information Institute of Syracuse, SOLINET, and the Information Institute at the School of Information Studies, Florida State University. Sponsors include The U.S. Department of Education, The National Library of Education’s ERIC Clearinghouse on Information & Technology, The Library of Congress, ALA RUSA, and Syracuse University’s School of Information Studies. For more information regarding the VRD 2001 Annual Digital Reference Conference, please contact Marilyn Schick, vrdconf@vrd.org, 800-464-9107 or 315-443-3640. The Virtual Reference Desk (www.vrd.org) is a project of the U.S. Department of Education, operated by the Information Institute of Syracuse, Syracuse University. ************************************************************************ Abby Kasowitz Coordinator, Virtual Reference Desk Project abby@vrd.org www.vrd.org ERIC Clearinghouse on Information & Technology/ Information Institute of Syracuse 315-443-3640 1-800-464-9107 *********************************************************************** ************************************************************************ VRD 2001 Conference: Setting Standards and Making it Real November 11-13, Orlando, FL http://vrd.org/conferences/VRD2001/ ************************************************************************* From murraylc at slscva.sysadm.suny.edu Wed May 30 14:06:50 2001 From: murraylc at slscva.sysadm.suny.edu (Laura K. Murray) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: Position Available: SUNY OLIS Message-ID: <3B1536B9.69C5718@slscva.sysadm.suny.edu> This position announcement was cross-posted to multiple lists. Please excuse any duplication. System Training Specialist The Office of Library & Information Services (OLIS) of the State University of New York (SUNY) is seeking an experienced librarian to play a key role in the multi-campus SUNYConnect project, especially the migration to the Ex Libris Aleph 500 library management system (LMS). The Training Specialist will be responsible for working in a team environment to develop a train-the-trainer curriculum for campuses migrating to Aleph 500 and will apply that curriculum in carrying out training of key library staff. The position will be based in Albany and will require frequent campus site visits throughout the state. Qualifications: The successful candidates must have an ALA-accredited MLS or equivalent degree, experience in training or instruction and experience with an integrated library management Library system. The candidates must have excellent written and oral communication skills and be very experienced in the use of common office/library computer applications, especially web browsers, e-mail and presentation software. A valid driver's license is required. Experience in academic libraries, library consortia and LMS migration and implementation is highly desirable. Salary: Up to $48,000 commensurate with qualifications. Send letter of application and resume to: Search Chair, State University of New York, Office of Library and Information Services, State University Plaza, Albany, New York 12246. Applications will be accepted until positions are filled. The State University of New York is an EEO/AA employer. Applications from women, minority persons, disabled workers and/or Vietnam Era Veterans are especially welcome. From JJames at lva.lib.va.us Wed May 30 14:33:57 2001 From: JJames at lva.lib.va.us (Julie James) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: Library Principles for the Networked World - input needed Message-ID: <3B7104134F9BD311BEB80050041F8CE0013E4BF6@lva.lib.va.us> [cross-posted to PUBLIB and Web4Lib] ***************************************************************** In April, more than 40 representatives from 22 ALA divisions, committees, round tables, and sister organizations met in Skokie, Illinois to revisit the 1993 Principles for the Development of the National Information Infrastructure. This document was designed to guide libraries in the significant policy reassessment predicated by major advances in telecommunications and technology. The result of the intensive, two-day workshop is a new document, Library Principles for the Networked World, in draft form. This document will provide a framework for addressing information technology policies that will best serve libraries and their users. It is hoped that this document will also be an important tool for library advocacy at the local, state and national levels. We need your help! Your feedback and input are essential for this document to accurately reflect the perspectives of the library community and to be useful to librarians, policy makers and government officials. Please review the draft principles at the OITP Web site, http://www.ala.org/oitp/prinintro.html, and submit feedback following the simple instructions on the "How to Comment" page (http://www.ala.org/oitp/comment.html). We really want to hear from you. Please direct all comments and questions to oitp@alawash.org. And don't forget to attend the public hearing on the Draft Principles at ALA Annual Conference: Saturday, June 16, 4:00 - 5:30 p.m., Moscone Center room 270-276. Your comments will ensure that these principles accurately reflect the needs of libraries and library users in the networked world. forwarded by: Julie James (OITP Advisory Committee) Technology Consultant The Library of Virginia 804/692-0800 jjames@lva.lib.va.us From jahb at lehigh.edu Wed May 30 14:43:31 2001 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] intenet porn in library: hostile.. References: Message-ID: <3B153F53.F9EA6FE2@lehigh.edu> Ok, I'm going to say it: why do people keep treating a behavior problem (public viewing of pornography, and placing of it in areas where other people have to view it) as a content problem? If a kid walked into a library brandishing Playboy's centerfold and stuck it under the librarian's nose, or started peeing in a corner, it would be considered a conduct issue and security and parents would be notified. If a patron started making verbally sexually harrassing remarks to me when I was on the desk, I'd call my supervisor, they'd call security, and the issue of the patron's BEHAVIOR would be addressed. Why is this a content issue at all? > Who is being "hostile" here? Me, for one. I'm very hostile towards labelling something or someone as 'PC'. I don't feel simply calling something a name is a) some sort of reasonable argument for or against it, or b) appropriate rhetoric for professional discussion. > Anyone out there sympathetic to the Minn. librarians and who can discuss > the real issues with sensible demeanor without dragging the reader through > a cesspool infected string of merely politically correct thought? > I think some of us should re-read the "guidelines for appropriate list > behavior" For instance, the tone of the above phrase ' cesspool infected string of merely politically correct thought', is not what I would call polite. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From eperez at sparkie.osl.state.or.us Wed May 30 19:45:57 2001 From: eperez at sparkie.osl.state.or.us (Ernest Perez) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: Web search assistant software freebie Message-ID: <3B158635.9E217C6B@sparkie.osl.state.or.us> You may be interested in taking a look at "Bingooo" Web searching software, a German freeware application located at . (Click the "English version" button at bottom of left column graphic, unless you sprech the Deutsch) Similar to Copernic & Bullseye, but freeware. Fast. Cheers, --ernest ----------------------------- Ernest Perez, Ph.D. Group Leader, Oregon State Library 250 Winter St. NE Salem OR 97301-3950 ernest.r.perez@state.or.us 503-378-4243, xt 257 From coffmanfyi at earthlink.net Thu May 31 02:17:18 2001 From: coffmanfyi at earthlink.net (Stephen Coffman) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:58 2005 Subject: Virtual Reference Veterans to Get Together at ALA Message-ID: <381976045.991289838677.JavaMail.root@web538-wrb> Over the past few months, a number of the libraries using LSSI's Virtual Reference software have asked us to sponsor an informal get-together for virtual reference veterans at ALA. At the same time, Jana Ronan, from the University of Florida and others using different kinds of software had also expressed an interest in sharing some 'face-time' at ALA. So instead of having a bunch of competing venues, we thought it would be a good idea if we all joined forces and put together one big meeting for everybody working in live virtual reference, regardless of what software you are using. Because, as all of you who do virtual reference know, there is one heck of a lot we have to learn from each other. So here are the details. First place it involves beer ... a necessary ingredient almost anytime virtual reference librarians get together. And we are holding it in the upstairs dining room at the Gordon Biersch Brewery Restaurant (http://www.gordonbiersch.com/restaurants/san_francisco.html) from 3-5pm (or as long as you want to go) on Saturday, June 16th. Gordon Biersch is at 2 Harrison Street, right near the waterfront and about a six block walk from the Moscone Center ... here's a map, so you won't get lost. (http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=2+harrison+&csz=san+francisco%2C+ca&country=us&Get%A0Map=Get+Map). You can also take the Muni or a taxi if you don't want to walk. The dining room we will be in is closed at that time, so we won't have to compete with all of other drunken louts to discuss the subjects that are dear to our hearts. I have promised to pick up a couple of platters of appetizers and the first few pitchers of beer, but after that, you are on your own ok. Jana Ronan will be there to welcome you all and to make sure you pay your bill (just kidding, just kidding) ... but you will want to give her an email at ronan@MAIL.UFLIB.UFL.EDU so we will have a rough idea of how many to expect. Now the only sad part is, I won't be able to be there, because I have to handle one of the CDRS Live Online Interactive sessions between 3:30-5:30, but Kay Henshall, LSSI's Head Trainer, and Michelle Fiander, our new Web Reference Center Manager will be, and I may try to make it over there after CDRS if you all hang around long enough. Meanwhile, have a round for me, and I hope everybody has a great time. ... and it is really something to see how far we have brought this in the past few years ... I mean not so very long ago it was hard to find two librarians who knew what virtual reference was ... now, there are so many of us that we can't even get together for a beer without making a special reservation .. now there's progress for you. See you alll in SF SC Steve Coffman Product Development Manager LSSI - Library Systems and Services LLC 20850 Century Blvd. Germantown, MD 20874 www.lssi.com/virtual stevec@lssi.com 800-638-8725 From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Fri May 4 11:13:28 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: Opera question Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B43F@mail1.morrisville.edu> I am having a strange problem that only shows up in Opera when viewing our library webpages. If you use Opera please take a look at our page at: http://www.morrisville.edu/library. Can anyone tell me why the text or form overlaps the background image? I am trying to use the same look for our logo as on our main page for the college. I have tried all sorts of variations on style settings and on align and valign for the table cells. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From digiref at loc.gov Fri May 4 12:06:24 2001 From: digiref at loc.gov (digiref@loc.gov) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: Digital Reference and Bibliographic Control, at ALA Message-ID: FORUM ON DIGITAL REFERENCE AND BIBLIOGRAPHIC CONTROL AT ALA The Library of Congress and RUSA, the Reference and User Services Association of the American Library Association, will sponsor the LC/RUSA Forum on Digital Reference and Bibliographic Control: Options for Collaboration during the upcoming ALA Annual Conference in San Francisco. The forum will take place on Sunday, June 17, from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. in the Dolores Room of the Grand Hyatt San Francisco. The program will address needs for bibliographic control of World Wide Web resources in library collections. Topics will include the uses made of CORC (OCLC's Cooperative Online Resource Catalog) by reference and cataloging librarians and a model for digital reference service, anytime, anywhere, to be provided by the Collaborative Digital Reference Service that is currently under development by LC and partner libraries. Intended as an opportunity for both public and technical services librarians, as well as other interested parties, to share their views on issues of mutual interest relating to the bibliographic control of World Wide Web resources in library collections, the forum is an outgrowth of a recommendation made at the Library of Congress Bicentennial Conference on Bibliographic Control for the New Millennium, held November 13-15, 2000, sponsored by the Cataloging Directorate. The forum will build on the momentum generated by the planning for the Collaborative Digital Reference Service. From PSchoenberg at publib.edmonton.ab.ca Fri May 4 12:06:45 2001 From: PSchoenberg at publib.edmonton.ab.ca (Peter Schoenberg) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Managing E-mail Reference Questions Message-ID: <30583CB50E86D11180A70000F805F2D901D5FD68@mail.publib.edmonton.ab.ca> Grant McEwan College in Edmonton (with funding from The Alberta Library) has developed and is using an "open source" based Virtual Reference Management package. It is being used collaboratively by a number of colleges in Alberta. They have been up and running for more than a year. http://www.lrc.gmcc.ab.ca/research/ask/ I wonder how many other libraries have built or are building similiar applications? __________________________________________________ Peter Schoenberg Manager - Virtual Library Services - Edmonton Public Library pschoenberg@publib.edmonton.ab.ca tel: (780) 496 1855 -----Original Message----- From: Caleb Tucker-Raymond [mailto:ctuckerr@stmarys-ca.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Managing E-mail Reference Questions We are actually working on an email reference management system. It's based on PHP and MySQL. Mostly, we're borrowing code from a multimedia collection development and acquisitions tracking system that is already in place here. I'm hoping the system will be in place for the fall semester, given the numerous other projects we have to do and a vacant position right now. We haven't planned to assign "owners" to reference questions. Whoever is on duty handles any questions or replies to answers that come in. It's worth considering though. One feature we are planning that we consider essential is the ability to wipe personal information related to reference questions. It won't be perfect unless someone goes through and deletes patrons' signature files from archived email, but it's a start. Also, for statistics, we plan on having an output to spreadsheet feature. Our "Ask a Librarian" service has been publicized through bibliographic instruction and a link from the main library home page. Response hasn't been overwhelming, but what little we have got has been encouraging, especially from our extended-education-distance-learning students. Caleb Tucker-Raymond Electronic Systems Librarian Saint Mary's College of California On Thu, 3 May 2001, Andrew Mutch wrote: > We are in the process of revamping our library web site. One element of the > site that we will be highlighting in the new design is our "Ask A Librarian" > service which allows patrons to submit reference questions through a web-based > form. Our current version of this service gets limited use and I know from what > others have reported that this type of service may take some time to generate > significant use by patrons. However, in the event that the redesign does > generate more responses from our site visitors, I would like to have a system in > place to manage the responses. > > I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel to do this. So, I'm curious as to > what systems people use to manage their e-mail reference questions. I would > envision that a good system would include the ability: > > * Route questions dependent upon departments/services > * Track the status of the various e-mail questions > * Allow questions to be assigned "owners" > * Archive questions > * Generate statistics > * Other things that I haven't thought of but people will tell me are "must have" > > I'm looking for something that is easy to set-up and maintain and relatively > easy for staff to utilize. I'm trying to avoid a proprietary or thrown-together > solution that runs on a wing and a prayer. > > Thank you, > > Andrew Mutch > Library Systems Technician > Waterford Township Public Library > Waterford, MI > > > From bennetttm at appstate.edu Fri May 4 12:11:35 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Opera question In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B43F@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: Of course there are several possibilities including your Opera settings: Enable Author CSS Check the Author CSS box only if you want Opera to give precedence to the CSS rules contained in the document. Check the User CSS box only if you want Opera to give precedence to your external CSS file. If both the Author CSS and User CSS are enabled, then the CSS from each will cascade, in the order specified in the CSS recommendations. Enable document mode default Enabling document mode default overrides your choices of user settings and allows author specified fonts, colors and backgrounds to take precedence. Enable tables Enable Tables - enables the (formatted) display of tables. DISABLING this option may conflict with certain background images in documents. Also from Opera's site: "H?kon Wium Lie, co-author of: Cascading Style Sheets: Designing for the Web and the person who proposed the concept of CSS is Opera Software's Chief Technology Officer. He came to Opera from the W3C, the organization that determines the specifications for the Web." This suggests to me that Opera is probably correctly interpreting your CSS where the other browsers may not be properly interpreting CSS. The main difference I noted between Opera 5.11, Netscape 4.77 and IE 5.0 is that from your Bobby image on down is centered in IE & Netscape and left justified in Opera and it appears that your last center tag (from the source code) is closed above this image. I am using all three browsers full screen at display setting of 1600x1200. You may want to look at the source of http://www.opera.com/support/resources/20000503.html where Opera uses forms in a table with different color backgrounds. Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Drew, Bill Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Opera question I am having a strange problem that only shows up in Opera when viewing our library webpages. If you use Opera please take a look at our page at: http://www.morrisville.edu/library. Can anyone tell me why the text or form overlaps the background image? I am trying to use the same look for our logo as on our main page for the college. I have tried all sorts of variations on style settings and on align and valign for the table cells. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Fri May 4 12:39:33 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Opera question Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B440@mail1.morrisville.edu> I solved the one problem I was having with Opera to my satisfaction. Opera did not like 'valign="center"' in my td tag. I changed it to valing="top" and the problem is solved. Don't know why this makes any difference. Some of you sent me some ideas about misplaced styles. I am looking into that as well. Bill Drew From PSchoenberg at publib.edmonton.ab.ca Fri May 4 12:54:28 2001 From: PSchoenberg at publib.edmonton.ab.ca (Peter Schoenberg) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: Broadcast Searching and z39.50 - impact on servers, networks and library systems Message-ID: <30583CB50E86D11180A70000F805F2D901D5FD69@mail.publib.edmonton.ab.ca> I would like to hear of any experience or publications on the impact of z39.50 broadcast searching. Possible scenarios: - a state-wide catalogue offers the public the ability to search all libraries catalogues, or sub-groups of catalogues or just the user's home catalogue - a search of a library catalogue (or catalogues) also queries some or all licensed products Questions: What is the impact on server load, ILS session loads? How would licensed product vendors react if every catalogue search also queried their server? (e.g. InfoTrac) How are customers encouraged to search their own library first? Why query 100 catalogues for the lastest by John Grisham when you are only going to get it from your local library anyway? How heavily used have such virtual/broadcast search based services been? Can smaller libraries servers handle the load of much larger numbers of searches being done at larger libraries? Have libraries had to limit or block z39.50 searches to maintain reasonable performance of their systems? Obviously I have lots of questions and would be very interested in hearing the answers. These questions are mine alone and not those of any particular library. __________________________________________________ Peter Schoenberg From digiref at loc.gov Fri May 4 13:30:37 2001 From: digiref at loc.gov (digiref@loc.gov) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: Cooperative Reference - A Pioneering Venture Message-ID: WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE TO GET A QUESTION ANSWERED ON THE WEB? Wouldn't it be great if most people answered this question, "At the library!"? Services like AskJeeves, Northern Light, and Google proliferate, but how many of their users' questions are answered completely? Accurately? Wouldn't it be great if you could participate in a pioneering collaborative service that provides quality, authoritative reference service by professional reference librarians 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year? A service that will position your library as the first place your patrons turn to for quality information on the Internet. Now you can! The Library of Congress, OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc., and over 80 participating institutions are collaborating to make this vision a reality. LC and OCLC, at the forefront of library cooperation efforts for over three decades in shared cataloging and resource sharing, are now beginning a brand new era in cooperative reference services. The Collaborative Digital Reference Service (CDRS) is a pioneering new service that will provide professional reference service to researchers - anywhere, anytime - through an international, digital network of libraries and related institutions. Librarians will assist their users by connecting to the CDRS to send questions that are best answered by expert staff. A large searchable archive of previous questions and answers will also be available to CDRS users. For more information on how to become a founding member in this exciting project, go to or Stop by the Library of Congress and OCLC booths at ALA Annual in San Francisco to learn more about CDRS and its information sessions during the conference. From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Fri May 4 15:40:24 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: Javascript or CSS question? Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B445@mail1.morrisville.edu> I have been upgrading our library webpages to use CSS and have also added a "quicklinks" pull down menu form to allow those who know where they want to got to do so more quickly. Is there any way other than SSI or such to get a pull down menu that I can modify from just one file that will either be called by a script in the pull down menu or via CSS? I am thinking along the lines of arrays but can't find a good example to work from. I want to be able to add new links to one file and have it appear from all the pages. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From strubsa at bu.edu Fri May 4 15:49:36 2001 From: strubsa at bu.edu (Sarah Struble) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Javascript or CSS question? In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B445@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: Well, If you are working from Dreamweaver, you could make the menu a library item. You have to re-upload all the pertinent pages after you make the change, but you only have to change it once, and DW makes the updating/uploading pretty easy. -ss **************************** Sarah Struble Health Sciences Bibliographer & Hospitality Administration Bibliographer Mugar Memorial Library Boston University Boston, MA 02215 strubsa@bu.edu phone 617.353.3714 fax 617.353.2084 **************************** On Fri, 4 May 2001, Drew, Bill wrote: > I have been upgrading our library webpages to use CSS and have also added a > "quicklinks" pull down menu form to allow those who know where they want to > got to do so more quickly. Is there any way other than SSI or such to get a > pull down menu that I can modify from just one file that will either be > called by a script in the pull down menu or via CSS? I am thinking along > the lines of arrays but can't find a good example to work from. I want to > be able to add new links to one file and have it appear from all the pages. > ___________________ > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu > BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ > Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ > Have Laptop -- Will Travel. > "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy > test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri May 4 15:59:29 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Javascript or CSS question? References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B445@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <006201c0d4d4$bf80f9f0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > I have been upgrading our library webpages to use CSS and have also added a > "quicklinks" pull down menu form to allow those who know where they want to > got to do so more quickly. Is there any way other than SSI or such to get a > pull down menu that I can modify from just one file that will either be > called by a script in the pull down menu or via CSS? I am thinking along > the lines of arrays but can't find a good example to work from. I want to > be able to add new links to one file and have it appear from all the pages. A couple of thoughts. As with *far* too many drop-down menus used for navigation, this one is absolutely unusable with no submit button when JavaScript is disabled (I don't think Bobby approves any more). To answer your question, this is a textbook example of something SSI does well. CSS is not about inserting content into your page; it's about formatting the content that's there. If SSI isn't an option, you'll need some other server-side scripting technology like PHP, or you'll need to commit to global search/replace operations whenever you change the form. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From btcarver at lisnews.com Fri May 4 18:55:55 2001 From: btcarver at lisnews.com (Blake Carver) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Javascript or CSS question? References: Message-ID: <00a301c0d4ed$60edaaa0$1e010a0a@chek.com> Here's an easy way to do it from PHP it just opens a little text file and reads from it and then spits the items into a drop down. I would assume it would be just as easy in asp, perl, etc... Javascript (I think) could do it too, though I may be wrong on that one. Your syntax will vary! "; while(list($i,$line) = each($array)) { echo "\n"; } echo " ?> --------------------- Blake Carver LISNews.com http://www.lisnews.com Librarian and Information Science News ----- Original Message ----- > > On Fri, 4 May 2001, Drew, Bill wrote: > > > I have been upgrading our library webpages to use CSS and have also added a > > "quicklinks" pull down menu form to allow those who know where they want to > > got to do so more quickly. Is there any way other than SSI or such to get a > > pull down menu that I can modify from just one file that will either be > > called by a script in the pull down menu or via CSS? I am thinking along > > the lines of arrays but can't find a good example to work from. I want to > > be able to add new links to one file and have it appear from all the pages. > > ___________________ > > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > > SUNY Morrisville College Library > > E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu > > BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ > > Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > > Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ > > Have Laptop -- Will Travel. > > "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy > > test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 > > > > From chrisd at lcls.org Fri May 4 16:15:40 2001 From: chrisd at lcls.org (Chris Deweese) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Javascript or CSS question? Message-ID: <200105041515.AA963379510@mailman.lcls.org> Could you make it a .js and just include it everywhere you want it? I myself just gave in and went with the SSI model to save myself some time :) We have a pulldown menu that appears on ours and I am still contemplating making it a .js file but I'm not exactly sure how those work. Most of my experience is with HTML and ASP + Access. So I'm new into the JS world. Chris Deweese Webmaster Lewis & Clark Library System http://www.lcls.lib.il.us/ Edwardsville IL 62025 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Drew, Bill" Reply-To: drewwe@MORRISVILLE.EDU Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:41:41 -0700 (PDT) >I have been upgrading our library webpages to use CSS and have also added a >"quicklinks" pull down menu form to allow those who know where they want to >got to do so more quickly. Is there any way other than SSI or such to get a >pull down menu that I can modify from just one file that will either be >called by a script in the pull down menu or via CSS? I am thinking along >the lines of arrays but can't find a good example to work from. I want to >be able to add new links to one file and have it appear from all the pages. >___________________ >Wilfred (Bill) Drew >Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference >SUNY Morrisville College Library >E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu >BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ >Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ >Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ >Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ >Have Laptop -- Will Travel. >"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy >test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 > From lstaples at bmcc.org Fri May 4 17:25:31 2001 From: lstaples at bmcc.org (Liz Staples) Date: Wed May 18 14:30:39 2005 Subject: Job Posting: AIHEC Virtual Library Manager Message-ID: <3AF31E4B.D889B969@bmcc.org> Forwarded by request of JoAnne M. Kerr , please do not reply to me. Thanks, Liz **************************************************************************** ********** Position Title: AIHEC Virtual Library Manager Date: 5/04/01 Location: Internet Telecommuting Position Classification: Full time, year round position Under the supervision of: Director of Virtual Library Project Definition and Purpose: This position is responsible for managing and developing the collection of the American Indian Higher Education Consortium (AIHEC) Virtual Library (www.aihecvl.org). The AIHEC Virtual Library's mission is to support the educational missions of AIHEC institutions by identifying, evaluating, describing, and organizing Internet resources for the intended use of their students, faculty, staff, and communities. The Library's mission and collection development policy are available at http://www.communitytechnology.org/aihec_vl/dbcommittee/avlcollect1.html. Characteristic Function and Duties: 1. Managing the AIHEC Virtual Library collection. Activities include identifying new entries that fit the library's mission, cataloging new entries, checking and correcting links, weeding the collection, reviewing and approving entries submitted by AIHEC Tribal College librarians and other authorized users, controlling the subject and other taxonomies, and generating and distributing statistical reports. 2. Promoting the AIHEC Virtual Library. Activities include communicating what's new to users and Tribal College librarians, encouraging AIHEC Tribal College librarians and other experts to contribute entries to the collection, and publicizing the Library through the Tribal College Journal and professional library journals. 3. Assisting users of the AIHEC Virtual Library. Activities include responding to email questions and comments from students and other users, helping faculty use the Library effectively as part of their on-campus or distance learning classes, and documenting the answers to frequently asked questions. 4. Working closely with the AIHEC Virtual Library Database Committee to maintain and enhance the Library's collection and to handle any challenges to items in the collection that may arise. 5. Establish and manage the working relationship with the technical services provider for the virtual library 6. Other duties as required. Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities: 1. Strong familiarity with Internet resources 2. The ability to evaluate Internet resources 3. Some library cataloging experience 4. Familiarity with the libraries at AIHEC institutions 5. Self-directed and able to work with minimal supervision 6. Good communication skills, including the ability to work with teachers, students, and community members, and the ability to collaborate with distant colleagues 7. Good organizational skills Minimum Training and Experience Requirements: 1. A Master's degree in Library Science is required. Candidates currently pursuing an MLS will also be considered. 2. A strong familiarity with Internet resources is required. 3. The ability to evaluate Internet resources is required. 4. Some library cataloging experience is required. 5. Preference will be given to candidates with experience working in a Tribal College or Tribal Community setting Location: Since the AIHEC Virtual Library and its administrative interface are Internet-based, the Virtual Library Manager may work from any location in the United States that has a connection to the Internet. Salary: Commensurate with experience in the range of $35,000-50,000 with benefits. Closing date: Open until filled Application: Send letter of application, resume, and tribal affiliation (if applicable) postmarked by June 6, 2001 to: JoAnne M. Kerr, Program Manager Alliance for Community Technology (ACT) University of Michigan 2281 Bonisteel Avenue, 2186 Media Union Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-2094 Phone: (734) 763-6414 Fax: (734) 936-3107 Email: jmkerr@umich.edu ==== From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Tue May 1 08:10:01 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:50 2005 Subject: Web4Lib Frequently Asked Questions List May 01 Message-ID: <200105011210.f41CA1c09005@ohiolink.ohiolink.edu> WEB4LIB FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS May 01, 2001 This is the current set of Frequently Asked Questions (or, perhaps, Frequently Needed Answers) for the Web4Lib mailing list. Questions in this message: How do I unsubscribe from Web4Lib? What help is available if the listserv won't do what I want? Where are the list's archives? Where is its Web site? What topics are usually considered on- and off-topic? Is there a list for Internet filtering? HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM WEB4LIB? 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Can anyone confirm this or point to its new location?] This list will be distributed to Web4Lib on the 1st and 15th of each month with the subject "Web4Lib Frequently Asked Questions List". If your mail client can filter incoming messages based on their subject lines, and if you would rather not see this message again, simply set it to delete or otherwise refile messages with that subject heading. If you think there are questions which should be addressed on this list (especially if you can provide the answer!) please contact Thomas Dowling, tdowling@ohiolink.edu. From dan at riverofdata.com Tue May 1 16:40:07 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Wireless In-Reply-To: <8CB72D8EAD84D411B3D600508BCF7B6C1C84D6@colorado.unn.ac.uk> References: <8CB72D8EAD84D411B3D600508BCF7B6C1C84D6@colorado.unn.ac.uk> Message-ID: <124355171179.20010501144007@riverofdata.com> The question isn't the frequency, but the power. The power level of a microwave oven is a couple of orders of magnitude higher than that of a wireless network. The same is true of cell phones. There is no documented proof of danger from cell phones (other than from idiots driving on the freeway while chatting, of course), and you're going to be much closer to the cell phone than to the wireless modem. dan Monday, April 30, 2001, 9:19:14 AM, you wrote: >> I'll second that security > comment:http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2681947, >> 00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews 01 IW> What about health hazards? Our IT people are testing wireless access at IW> present and since the frequency they are using is the same as a microwave IW> oven they wondered if there could be problems. I haven't looked for IW> information yet, but is anyone aware of any hazards? IW> Also if they decide to go for wireless they would like to run portable thin IW> clients from a Citrix server. Anyone have any relevant experience of this? IW> Thanks. IW> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IW> Ian Winship IW> Learning Resources, University of Northumbria at Newcastle IW> City Campus Library, Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 8ST, UK IW> ---------------- IW> e-mail: ian.winship@unn.ac.uk IW> phone: 0191 227 4150 fax: 0191 227 4563 IW> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From mills at htls.lib.il.us Tue May 1 17:32:00 2001 From: mills at htls.lib.il.us (Paul Mills) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:50 2005 Subject: Job Announcement for LLSAP Coordinator Message-ID: <009b01c0d286$27dfc180$298c7dd8@htls.lib.il.us> Please pardon me as this announcement has been/will be posted to multiple listservs. . . . The Heritage Trail Library System in Shorewood, IL is seeking an LLSAP (Local Library System Automation Plan) Coordinator. Our consortium consists of 38 libraries, primarily public and school, and we currently utilize the Geac PLUS software. Responsibilities of the position include the overall operation and development of the LLSAP in all aspects and the supervision and training of the LLSAP staff. Qualifications include a minimum of two years of original cataloging experience and a minimum of two years operating an integrated library system. An ALA accredited MLS strongly preferred or Bachelor's Degree in computer or information science. A working knowledge of OCLC, MARC and cataloging principles and practices, self motivated and able to work as a team member are required. The salary range for this position is $31,900 - $47,850 DOQ. HTLS offers an excellent benefits package. Heritage Trail Library System is an equal opportunity employer. Please send a letter of application, resume and 3 references to: Shirley Grasty Executive Secretary Heritage Trail Library System 405 Earl Road Shorewood, IL 60431 From mills at htls.lib.il.us Tue May 1 17:34:18 2001 From: mills at htls.lib.il.us (Paul Mills) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:50 2005 Subject: Job Announcement for Internet Services Administrator Message-ID: <00b701c0d286$7a703b00$298c7dd8@htls.lib.il.us> Please pardon me as this announcement has been/will be posted to multiple listservs. . . . The Heritage Trail Library System in Shorewood, IL is seeking an Internet Services Administrator. Responsibilities of the position include developing and enhancing our website, assisting member libraries with web development, managing Internet connectivity (including hardware), and developing other Internet-based services. Qualifications include an associate or bachelor degree in computer or information science, experience with html, javascript, IIS 5.0, and Cisco equipment. 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Search Engine Statistics: Database Relative Size From elilly at lms.kent.edu Thu May 3 09:11:58 2001 From: elilly at lms.kent.edu (Erica Lilly) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Innovative M.S. in Information Architecture and Knowldege Management at Kent State University Message-ID: Kent State University is pleased to announce an interdisciplinary Master of Science degree in Information Architecture and Knowledge Management (IAKM) to start in the Fall, 2001. A prospectus of this innovative and unique degree can be found at http://iakm.kent.edu This program is designed to be a flexible, rigorous program of study to prepare students for new and emerging roles for information professionals, such as digital archivists, information architects, e-content developers, knowledge engineers, or documentation managers. The IAKM Master's degree requires 48 credit hours: 24 hours in the core and 24 hours within a concentration. The core program provides competencies in information technologies, information design, information seeking behavior, strategic planning, and information users and uses. There are three concentrations: * Information Architecture: the art and science of organizing information and interfaces to help information seekers solve their information needs efficiently and effectively. * Information Use: the key concern of which is information ergonomics, the study of adapting information systems and sources to fit the environment of users and their information needs so as to achieve goals of maximum access, usability and efficiency. * Knowledge Management: the discipline concerned with how an organization's intellectual assets are exploited for greater productivity and increased competitiveness. The degree is sponsored by the School of Communication Studies, the School of Journalism and Mass Communication, the School of Library and Information Science, the Department of Management and Information Systems, the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science and Department of Visual Communication Design. It is administered by the School of Library and Information Science. Dr. Thomas J. Froehlich is the Program Director. For questions, contact the IAKM Program at iakm@kent.edu, (330) 672-5840 (voice) or (330) 672-2118 (FAX). Erica Lilly Assistant Professor and Biological Sciences Librarian Libraries and Media Services Kent State University Kent, OH 44242 elilly@lms.kent.edu From darganm at maple.iren.net Thu May 3 12:48:28 2001 From: darganm at maple.iren.net (Michael Dargan) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Printer Madness Message-ID: I've been running Public Browser 1.23 with good success. However, yesterday I came across a strange problem. I installed PB123 on a Windows 98SE machine and all seemed well. However, shortly thereafter I received a complaint: Webpages that should print out on one sheet of paper suddenly took as many as 40--with an element of the webpage on each sheet. I then tried printing with MSIE5.5 and got the same results. I tried changing the printer driver from HP5M to HPIII with no luck. I encountered this problem with PB1.19 and it went away when I upgraded to 1.23. This behavior shows up in Print Preview as well. Has anyone else seen this problem? Any ideas on what might be wrong are welcome. Win98SE MSIE5.5 Public Browser 1.23 Printing to an HP5M via JetDirect port Fortres 101 V4.0 --- Michael J. Dargan office: 319 291 4496 Technical Systems Administrator fax: 319 291 6736 Waterloo and Cedar Falls Public Libraries Waterloo, IA 50701 From gprice at gwu.edu Thu May 3 13:36:14 2001 From: gprice at gwu.edu (gprice) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Update Week 9: The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk Message-ID: <3AF242D5@webmail2.gwu.edu> The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk New and Useful Web Sites, Industry News, Full-Text Docs of Interest to the Info Professional. http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com 5/3/01 It's been quite a week for both news and content. Great stuff! I think most of you will find a story or site that you will want to explore. REMEMBER, this e-mail update is an abridged version of what you will find on the weblog. Feel free to stop by THROUGHOUT the week for new resources and news of interest to the information professional. --------- Thanks for the continued support! If I can be of assistance, you know where to find me. Cheers, gary p.s. Links to past VAS&ND (archived postings) can be found in the left column of the weblog page. ---------------- Weekly Highlights #9 The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com Thursday, May 3, 2001 The Packaging of Information XanEdu to Package Online Resources With Wiley Textbooks ---- Wednesday, May 2, 2001 Reference Books--The Dictionary of American Regional English "Dictionary Tracks American Language" Business--Statistics--United States Source: U.S. Census 1999 County Business Patterns Data Available Today ---- Tuesday, May 1, 2001 E-Government-Legislation Bill Introduced: E-Gov Act of 2001 International Development New Web Site from the World Bank: International Development Goals Canada Resource Shelf (1 Item) Environment--Wild Species Wild Species in Canada ---- Monday, April 30, 2001 Full-Text Document Shelf Criminal Justice--Wiretaps Source: Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts 2000 Wiretap Report Summary and News Release also available. ---- Federal Aid to Universities--Science & Engineering--United States Federal Aid to Non-Profits--Science & Engineering--United States Source: NSF Federal Science and Engineering Support to Universities, Colleges, and Nonprofit Institutions: Fiscal Year 1999 Lawyers--United States Source: Forbes Highest Paid Lawyers (U.S.) (Free Registration Required) Virtual Reference-Canada Collaborative Digital Reference Service Source: Ottawa Citizen "Canada Joins Global Online Answer Service" ---- Friday, April 27, 2001 Search Engine News Greg Notess Posts New Search Size Studies U.K. Resource Shelf (4 Items) A selection of new docs and resources from various departments and organizations in the U.K. Government Environment Digest of Environmental Statistics The Environment in your Pocket 2000 Employment Employment Rates 1959 to 2000/1 (Available in Excel Format) Transportation London Underground: Comparison with New York Subway The List and Rankings Drawer Broadcasting Industry--Television--United States Digital Television Stations In Operation Source: National Association of Broadcasters - Broadcasting Industry--Television--United States Top 25 Television Groups ---- Thursday, April 26, 2001 Academic Publishing "Scientists threaten journal protest" Source: BBC Online Web Search--Multimedia "Specialized Providers Zero In On Multimedia Content" Web Searching Internet Business--Lycos For A Fee, Surf By Phone ---- http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com End Week #9 Update Gary D. Price, MLIS Librarian Information Consultant, George Washington University gprice@gwu.edu Looking for Info Industry News? New Search Resources? New Web Accessible Documents? Visit The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com From doug_doremus at standardandpoors.com Thu May 3 13:09:52 2001 From: doug_doremus at standardandpoors.com (doug_doremus@standardandpoors.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Doug Doremus/SP/FIS is out of the office. Message-ID: <200105031709.KAA18015@webjunction.org> I will be out of the office from 05/03/2001 until 05/07/2001. I will have limited access to e-mail, but you may leave a message on my voicemail at 212-438-1377. From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu May 3 13:29:07 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Managing E-mail Reference Questions References: <013201c0d34e$e60263c0$02898c0a@elmira.edu> Message-ID: <3AF19563.4E001167@tln.lib.mi.us> We are in the process of revamping our library web site. One element of the site that we will be highlighting in the new design is our "Ask A Librarian" service which allows patrons to submit reference questions through a web-based form. Our current version of this service gets limited use and I know from what others have reported that this type of service may take some time to generate significant use by patrons. However, in the event that the redesign does generate more responses from our site visitors, I would like to have a system in place to manage the responses. I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel to do this. So, I'm curious as to what systems people use to manage their e-mail reference questions. I would envision that a good system would include the ability: * Route questions dependent upon departments/services * Track the status of the various e-mail questions * Allow questions to be assigned "owners" * Archive questions * Generate statistics * Other things that I haven't thought of but people will tell me are "must have" I'm looking for something that is easy to set-up and maintain and relatively easy for staff to utilize. I'm trying to avoid a proprietary or thrown-together solution that runs on a wing and a prayer. Thank you, Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From reitene at okstate.edu Thu May 3 13:49:59 2001 From: reitene at okstate.edu (Elizabeth A Reiten) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Managing E-mail Reference Questions Message-ID: Please please please if you have any suggestions, reply to the list!! I would love to actually have something other than my own brain to help me manage our email reference! Beth Reiten, Librarian Digital Library Services Edmon Low Library Oklahoma State University Phone: 405-744-9109 Email: reitene@okstate.edu Andrew Mutch Sent by: web4lib@webjunction.org 05/03/01 12:32 PM Please respond to amutch To: Multiple recipients of list cc: (bcc: Elizabeth A Reiten/lib/Okstate) Subject: [WEB4LIB] Managing E-mail Reference Questions We are in the process of revamping our library web site. One element of the site that we will be highlighting in the new design is our "Ask A Librarian" service which allows patrons to submit reference questions through a web-based form. Our current version of this service gets limited use and I know from what others have reported that this type of service may take some time to generate significant use by patrons. However, in the event that the redesign does generate more responses from our site visitors, I would like to have a system in place to manage the responses. I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel to do this. So, I'm curious as to what systems people use to manage their e-mail reference questions. I would envision that a good system would include the ability: * Route questions dependent upon departments/services * Track the status of the various e-mail questions * Allow questions to be assigned "owners" * Archive questions * Generate statistics * Other things that I haven't thought of but people will tell me are "must have" I'm looking for something that is easy to set-up and maintain and relatively easy for staff to utilize. I'm trying to avoid a proprietary or thrown-together solution that runs on a wing and a prayer. Thank you, Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Thu May 3 14:26:02 2001 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Scrolling Screen Saver for AUP display References: <3AF242D5@webmail2.gwu.edu> Message-ID: <3AF1A2BA.C64627BE@cdrewu.edu> I'm looking for a screen saver that can scroll a text file on the screen, movie-credit style. This is for displaying our "Acceptable Use Policy" on the public access machines. Thanks in advance. -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl From kgs at bluehighways.com Thu May 3 14:29:24 2001 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Input sought for updating Accessible Web Workstation Message-ID: Last October, with significant input from colleagues, I put together a budget for an Accessible Web Workstation. I am pleased to say that when a local bank unexpectedly gave us a gift of $1,000, our director immediately thought of this project and told me to use the $1,000 toward making it happen. The current version of this budget is at http://www.shenpublib.org/accessibility If you have updated information (feedback on a software product, a new product to list, a version change to be aware of, etc.), please get back to me by Friday, May 11, 2001. I will send out a message when I have incorporated all of the changes. I'm going to match the $1,000 by tweezing money from our own tech budget, but we aren't going to be able to get everything on the list. We are beginning this project by targeting visually-challenged but sighted users (typical of our older users who attend our computer classes) and focusing on the workstation and extra-large monitor, the large-print keyboard overlays, the oversized trackball, and the very bright task light. (We have a workstation table we can use.) If you have experience with Jaws, Zoomtext or IBM Home Page Reader, I'd be curious to hear what you had to say about usage and whether you would make any one of these a priority for our purchase. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com Assistant Director for Technology Shenendehowa Public Library www.shenpublib.org From ctuckerr at stmarys-ca.edu Thu May 3 14:33:02 2001 From: ctuckerr at stmarys-ca.edu (Caleb Tucker-Raymond) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Managing E-mail Reference Questions In-Reply-To: <3AF19563.4E001167@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: We are actually working on an email reference management system. It's based on PHP and MySQL. Mostly, we're borrowing code from a multimedia collection development and acquisitions tracking system that is already in place here. I'm hoping the system will be in place for the fall semester, given the numerous other projects we have to do and a vacant position right now. We haven't planned to assign "owners" to reference questions. Whoever is on duty handles any questions or replies to answers that come in. It's worth considering though. One feature we are planning that we consider essential is the ability to wipe personal information related to reference questions. It won't be perfect unless someone goes through and deletes patrons' signature files from archived email, but it's a start. Also, for statistics, we plan on having an output to spreadsheet feature. Our "Ask a Librarian" service has been publicized through bibliographic instruction and a link from the main library home page. Response hasn't been overwhelming, but what little we have got has been encouraging, especially from our extended-education-distance-learning students. Caleb Tucker-Raymond Electronic Systems Librarian Saint Mary's College of California On Thu, 3 May 2001, Andrew Mutch wrote: > We are in the process of revamping our library web site. One element of the > site that we will be highlighting in the new design is our "Ask A Librarian" > service which allows patrons to submit reference questions through a web-based > form. Our current version of this service gets limited use and I know from what > others have reported that this type of service may take some time to generate > significant use by patrons. However, in the event that the redesign does > generate more responses from our site visitors, I would like to have a system in > place to manage the responses. > > I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel to do this. So, I'm curious as to > what systems people use to manage their e-mail reference questions. I would > envision that a good system would include the ability: > > * Route questions dependent upon departments/services > * Track the status of the various e-mail questions > * Allow questions to be assigned "owners" > * Archive questions > * Generate statistics > * Other things that I haven't thought of but people will tell me are "must have" > > I'm looking for something that is easy to set-up and maintain and relatively > easy for staff to utilize. I'm trying to avoid a proprietary or thrown-together > solution that runs on a wing and a prayer. > > Thank you, > > Andrew Mutch > Library Systems Technician > Waterford Township Public Library > Waterford, MI > > > From prx000 at mail.connect.more.net Thu May 3 15:27:30 2001 From: prx000 at mail.connect.more.net (Mike Novak) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Scrolling Screen Saver for AUP display References: <3AF1A2BA.C64627BE@cdrewu.edu> Message-ID: <021401c0d407$197e48a0$6e0eb8cc@REFERENCE> For MS Windows? Windows includes the "Marquee Display" screen saver which scrolls text. Mike Novak Technology Coordinator & Reference Librarian University City Public Library ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles P. Hobbs" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Scrolling Screen Saver for AUP display > I'm looking for a screen saver that can scroll a text file on the screen, > movie-credit style. This is for displaying our "Acceptable Use Policy" > on the public access machines. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Charles P. Hobbs > King Drew Health Science Library > http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl > > > From pverhagen at sapl.ab.ca Thu May 3 15:38:59 2001 From: pverhagen at sapl.ab.ca (Peter Verhagen) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: Managing E-mail Reference Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2630.192.168.100.1.988918739.squirrel@akinsdale.sapl.ab.ca> I suppose you could talk to the poeple at http://www.ipl.org and ask them how they did it, and if they'd be willing to share the source with the rest of the Library Community (I've never asked). Personally (I am not a Librarian), but I've always found patron/user forums to be useful. Now, forums may not have everything, but at least they can be moderated, publicly/archival searched and a host of other things can be done depending on the forum package chosen and how you set them up. Check them out for yourself and see if they come close to fulfilling your needs. Problably the most popular forum on the Internet (creators of OpenTopic and UBB): http://www.infopop.com One freeware solution (PHP/MySQL) is BlazeBoard: http://www.bbhacks.com/ As always, good luck in your quest! Peter Verhagen Systems Administrator St. Albert Public Library St. Albert, Alberta, Canada > To: > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Managing E-mail Reference Questions > > > We are in the process of revamping our library web site. One > element of the site that we will be highlighting in the new design > is our "Ask A Librarian" service which allows patrons to submit > reference questions through a web-based form. Our current version > of this service gets limited use and I know from what others have > reported that this type of service may take some time to generate > significant use by patrons. However, in the event that the > redesign does generate more responses from our site visitors, I > would like to have a system in place to manage the responses. > > I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel to do this. So, I'm > curious as to what systems people use to manage their e-mail > reference questions. I would envision that a good system would > include the ability: > > * Route questions dependent upon departments/services > * Track the status of the various e-mail questions > * Allow questions to be assigned "owners" > * Archive questions > * Generate statistics > * Other things that I haven't thought of but people will tell me > are "must have" > > I'm looking for something that is easy to set-up and maintain and > relatively easy for staff to utilize. I'm trying to avoid a > proprietary or thrown-together solution that runs on a wing and a > prayer. > > Thank you, > > Andrew Mutch > Library Systems Technician > Waterford Township Public Library > Waterford, MI From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Thu May 3 16:46:18 2001 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Scrolling Screen Saver for AUP display References: <021401c0d407$197e48a0$6e0eb8cc@REFERENCE> Message-ID: <3AF1C39A.EE04CAB2@cdrewu.edu> Mike Novak wrote: > For MS Windows? Windows includes the "Marquee Display" screen saver which > scrolls text. > It's only one line wide, and scrolls horizontally instead of vertically. Too limited for my purposes...but thanks. -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl From cathy_cox at wvmccd.cc.ca.us Thu May 3 17:50:17 2001 From: cathy_cox at wvmccd.cc.ca.us (Cathy Cox) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Input sought for updating Accessible Web Workstation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010503140849.00a03990@mcmail> We are in the middle of setting up the computers in our new (open as of 5/1!) library, and will be configuring four workstations for students with various types of needs. In our old building, the only accessibility software we had was ZoomText level 2; the new stations will include ZoomText, JAWS, Dragon Dictate Naturally (which allows voice-control of the computer) and a Kurzweil read & scan station (in the future). Things you may want to consider in setting up your station: 1. Not all software packages will work together. From what I've been told, JAWS is particularly touchy about being loaded on machines with other packages. It also requires fairly significant training to use properly. On a college campus such as ours, students are trained in the use of the software by the Disabled Instructional Support Center and the library is not required to teach the users, but in a public library setting you might find yourself needing to do much more instruction on a fairly complicated program. However, it does things that no other program I know of does as well, such as allowing a non-sighted user to access information in databases or spreadsheets. If your users ONLY browse the web, you might not need all the features of JAWS and might do better with Home Page Reader (although I haven't heard as much about it and have no personal experience with it). 2. ZoomText is wonderful, easy to use, and includes a document reader that allows users to hear what they're reading as well. If you can only get one software package, this would be the one I'd recommend. 3. Pointing devices are relatively cheap. Why limit your users to either a trackball OR a mouse, when you can hook up both and let them use whichever works best for them? If you use a splitter such as the one from Ymouse you can accomodate users' needs more easily. ************************************************************ Catherine Cox Electronic Resources Librarian Mission College Library cathy_cox@wvmccd.cc.ca.us This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force. - Dorothy Parker ************************************************************ At 11:31 AM 5/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >Last October, with significant input from colleagues, I put together a >budget for an Accessible Web Workstation. I am pleased to say that when a >local bank unexpectedly gave us a gift of $1,000, our director immediately >thought of this project and told me to use the $1,000 toward making it >happen. > >The current version of this budget is at >http://www.shenpublib.org/accessibility > >If you have updated information (feedback on a software product, a new >product to list, a version change to be aware of, etc.), please get back to >me by Friday, May 11, 2001. I will send out a message when I have >incorporated all of the changes. > >I'm going to match the $1,000 by tweezing money from our own tech budget, >but we aren't going to be able to get everything on the list. We are >beginning this project by targeting visually-challenged but sighted users >(typical of our older users who attend our computer classes) and focusing on >the workstation and extra-large monitor, the large-print keyboard overlays, >the oversized trackball, and the very bright task light. (We have a >workstation table we can use.) If you have experience with Jaws, Zoomtext or >IBM Home Page Reader, I'd be curious to hear what you had to say about usage >and whether you would make any one of these a priority for our purchase. > >Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com >Assistant Director for Technology >Shenendehowa Public Library www.shenpublib.org From andrewc at mail.vicnet.net.au Thu May 3 19:51:17 2001 From: andrewc at mail.vicnet.net.au (Andrew Cunningham) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Input sought for updating Accessible Web Workstation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20010504095117.025d7384@mail.vicnet.net.au> HI Karen other possibilities really depend on what type of disabilities you're aiming for in some of the work my supervisor has trialled in libraries: the opera web browser is useful, its ability to engage/disengage images, resize size are quite good, we've also tested using high contrast css stylesheets to override web sites .. to provide large text and use high contrasting colours ... these stylesheets can be enabled/disable by keyboard sequences other issues: physical impairment and limited coordination ... hiiting individual keys can be hard for soem people, its possible to get perspex keyboard guards .. effectively a sheet of perspex fitted over the keyboard, with holes in the perspex in order to type a key ... aloows people with limited mobility/dexterity in their hands to rest on teh keyboard and type a key, without the possibility of typing more than one key at the same time, also useful for people with severe arthritis .. allows then to rest hands on keyboard. another suggestion is the possibility of using a touch screen ... just an idea ... Andj Andrew Cunningham Multilingual Technical Project Officer Accessibility and Evauluation Unit, Vicnet State Library of Victoria Australia andrewc@vicnet.net.au http://www.openroad.net.au/ http://go.to/andj/ At 11:34 AM 5/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >Last October, with significant input from colleagues, I put together a >budget for an Accessible Web Workstation. I am pleased to say that when a >local bank unexpectedly gave us a gift of $1,000, our director immediately >thought of this project and told me to use the $1,000 toward making it >happen. > >The current version of this budget is at >http://www.shenpublib.org/accessibility > >If you have updated information (feedback on a software product, a new >product to list, a version change to be aware of, etc.), please get back to >me by Friday, May 11, 2001. I will send out a message when I have >incorporated all of the changes. > >I'm going to match the $1,000 by tweezing money from our own tech budget, >but we aren't going to be able to get everything on the list. We are >beginning this project by targeting visually-challenged but sighted users >(typical of our older users who attend our computer classes) and focusing on >the workstation and extra-large monitor, the large-print keyboard overlays, >the oversized trackball, and the very bright task light. (We have a >workstation table we can use.) If you have experience with Jaws, Zoomtext or >IBM Home Page Reader, I'd be curious to hear what you had to say about usage >and whether you would make any one of these a priority for our purchase. > >Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com >Assistant Director for Technology >Shenendehowa Public Library www.shenpublib.org > > From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Thu May 3 20:22:49 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Managing E-mail Reference Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We're using a free help-desk product called RequestTracker http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/ for our technical support but I've thought it would make a great online reference desk tool. Users can submit requests via email -- different addresses relate to different queues -- or forms. There are a lot of tools there for commenting, replying and managing the response. -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz From esche_ma at oaklandlibrary.org Thu May 3 20:35:33 2001 From: esche_ma at oaklandlibrary.org (Margaret Escherich) Date: Wed May 18 14:51:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] help on capturing links? In-Reply-To: <3AF242D5@webmail2.gwu.edu> Message-ID: Hi - We are using proxy server on our public catalog PCs, and also want to provide access to our subscription databases on these machines. One of these databases is CollegeSource, which has links to a very large number of college web sites. Is there any software, preferably free or shareware, that will spider a site and return a text file list of the outbound links on that site? Thanks! -Margaret Escherich Senior Librarian/Webmistress Oakland Public Library Oakland, CA From jwilliams at jhubc.it Thu May 24 03:12:38 2001 From: jwilliams at jhubc.it (John Williams) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web References: Message-ID: <000701c0e420$ea323820$017fcec1@jhubc.it> See also Tom Christiansen on Perl v. Python: http://www.perl.com/pub/language/versus/python.html > > If you're just starting out, and if you're not generating dynamic content > right away, I feel like PERL is a better choice. > John Williams From bennetttm at appstate.edu Thu May 24 08:54:19 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: <000701c0e420$ea323820$017fcec1@jhubc.it> Message-ID: Being one of the foremost Perl gurus Tom Christiansen, he responded to the users question quite unbiasly I feel. Bear in mind this response was over 5 years ago and there have been a number of changes in Python including a total rewrite almost of the language with version 2.0. Just yesterday the LinuxWorld eNewsletter had an article _Python: The One Size Fits All Programming Language_ (URL may wrap to next line) http://www.itworld.com/jump/l0522_nl/www.itworld.com/AppDev/4073/LWD010518pe nguin3/ I learned a new trick that Python can do from that article. Python has always compiled a byte code version of the source, but yesterday I found out that you can also compile to java byte code from the python source. It appears to me that this is becoming a quite powerful language. My opinion has always been, if you're comfortable with Perl, understand it, and have been using it for a while (or not) then there's no reason why you need to change to Python. If you're new to both languages, give each a chance and see which you are most comfortable with and which language can do what you need to accomplish. This statement holds true today just as it did in June of 95: "The extent to which you prefer one over the other will probably depend on how comfortable you already are with C and Unix shell programming in general." -Tom Christiansen http://www.perl.com/pub/language/versus/python.html Thomas ps: I hope it is quite clear that this is not a flame toward any language or person. Use what you like. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web See also Tom Christiansen on Perl v. Python: http://www.perl.com/pub/language/versus/python.html > > If you're just starting out, and if you're not generating dynamic content > right away, I feel like PERL is a better choice. > John Williams From lytlea at oclc.org Thu May 24 09:29:19 2001 From: lytlea at oclc.org (Lytle,Amy) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Invitation: OCLC Institute ALA Presentation: Beyond the Buzz: Cr itical Issues for Action Message-ID: [Widely cross-posted with apologies. Please redistribute as appropriate.] The OCLC Institute invites you to join us at ALA for "Beyond the Buzz: Critical Issues for Action" Saturday, June 16 1:00-3:00 p.m. San Francisco Hilton & Towers, Continental Ballroom Parlor 9 Registration required, no cost to attend; seating is limited. Join OCLC Institute Founding Director Emeritus, Martin Dillon, Ph.D., for a lively discussion of key trends and new directions affecting libraries today. Topic include: Key Trends in Librarianship Measuring Library Performance Re-inventing fundamental services Creating global vision e-learning New Directions Plans for future seminars and conferences Key content form seminars Trends on the horizon The OCLC Institute as Resource for You Onsite Seminars Conferences e-learning Share your expertise and experience, and learn about how the OCLC Institute can be a part of your personal development and institutional growth. To register online: For more information, contact Amy Lytle, Event Coordinator, at lytlea@oclc.org . ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From ebro at loc.gov Thu May 24 10:42:02 2001 From: ebro at loc.gov (Elizabeth L. Brown) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: IrfanView In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010523202756.00aeb320@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010524101941.048a00e0@sun8.loc.gov> My problem with Irfan View is paying for it. The license agreement is pretty clear that it's freeware only for use on home computers (exact words: "this means at home"). But to use it anywhere else, you are supposed to send $10 (or DM20), in cash to an address in Austria. This information is here: . Click "Irfan View?" on the left and then scroll down to the usage agreement. Instead my work group has been using AlternaTIFF for TIFF viewing. If anyone wants my step-by-step instructions for disabling Quicktime from trying to view TIFF files, or for asking Alternatiff to ignore TIFF aspect ratio header tags (which are often incorrect), send a note to me off list. Elizabeth Brown At 05:33 PM 5/23/01 -0700, you wrote: >I see on www.download.com that IrfanView has gathered a few negative comments. I would recommend that anyone interested in downloading the program read the reviews first. I certainly don't want my recommendation to result in brickbats thrown my way. :| > >I think it's a great program. > >Phalbe Henriksen From michael-a-mayo at worldnet.att.net Thu May 24 10:45:03 2001 From: michael-a-mayo at worldnet.att.net (Michael A Mayo) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Creating local content for web References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CD@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <008601c0e460$2800ac60$d15a580c@elcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew, Bill" Subject: [WEB4LIB] Creating local content for web > I am > looking for a free or cheap database program that can be used to eventually > create such content. I am finding that Access is too complicated and > requires too much in the way of programming skills. Unfortunately, the use of dynamic content for the web has only recently become common. Content managment systems are still fairly primitive. Putting up dynamic content is nowhere near as easy as starting up a web server and making an HTML file. Access is pretty close to the best available in ease-of-use. The main alternative is FileMaker. Using FM, you can produce dynamic pages with a standard themeable look without any programming. However, the resulting pages will have a fairly primitive layout and the look will not fit in with your exisitng web site. This kind of thing is more suited to publishing an in-house database to the web than it is to producing dynamic content for a website. Using FM, you can also make up your own dynamic pages using a very simple programming language (CDML). CDML is fairly easy to learn. It's similar to PHP in that the programming is embedded in the HTML. Also, you must run the FMPro web server. While making dynamic content with FM/CDML is probably somewhat easier than doing it with Access/VB, it's not that much easier. If you want to produce dynamic content, you will either have to learn a programming language, hire someone who knows a programming language, or wait until there is a simple content managment system available suited to small sites. Don't hold your breath. =) >I am after something > that can be used now to create static pages that we will then move to the > webserver. There are plenty of content management systems that will automatically produce static files. However, I don't believe any of them are simple to use or require little/no programming knowledge. Sadly, I don't believe what you are looking for exists (yet). Maybe in another 2-3 years... -Mike From danforth at tiac.net Thu May 24 14:10:17 2001 From: danforth at tiac.net (Isabel Danforth) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: scheduling Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010524110750.00a7b790@pop3.norton.antivirus> We are looking for an inexpensive (or free) scheduling system to replace the paper pages in a notebook that is currentlyl used for patrons signing up to use public computers. We do not use Outlook within our library for email. Ideally it would reside on one computer and be accessible from several other PC's. One possible solution would be to use a set of Excel spreadsheets, but that can be a bit clunky. Any ideas would be appreciated. Isabel From mconroy at ohionet.org Thu May 24 11:44:03 2001 From: mconroy at ohionet.org (Mary Conroy) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: June 19,22: (web-based) Genealogical Research on the Internet Par t 1 Message-ID: <45E65FF9FB4BD3118912005004A2B8F058EBD3@ohionetmail.ohionet.org> Genealogical Research on the Internet Part 1 Reference, Documentation, Communication & Travel Web-based Workshop Sponsored by OHIONET Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 19 OR June 22 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Agenda Syllabus at http://www.kovacs.com/genpart1.html Overview In this hands-on Web-based workshop, students will learn to effectively and efficiently use the Internet for genealogical research or to assist others in doing genealogical research. Some basic knowledge of genealogical research is required. The focus is on the 'best' Internet resources to use in doing genealogical research or assisting others in doing genealogical research. The Internet is also a tool for communicating and planning correspondence and travel related to genealogical research. Audience This workshop is intended for people who want to learn about using the Internet to find high quality, authoritative information for genealogical research. The basic genealogical research knowledge and basic Internet knowledge provided in the free workshop "Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet" is assumed. Participants should know how to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to interact with the Web-based materials. Participants should know how to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to interact with the Web-based materials. Schedule Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 19 OR June 22 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 19, 2001. Registration and Tuition http://www.kovacs.com/register.html The workshop tuition is $100 per person. Materials All materials will be online on interactive Web pages. Color printed packets will be priority mailed to each participant on receipt of payment, or purchase order. Instructor: Diane K. Kovacs - Kovacs Consulting Internet & World Wide Web Training http://www.kovacs.com Genealogical Research on the Internet -Web-based Workshop in a Book Forthcoming from Neal-Schuman 2001 OHIONET contact: Mary Mlynar Conroy Library Services Coordinator OHIONET, 1500 West Lane Ave, Columbus OH 43221 Fax 614/486-1527 voice 800/686-8975 or 614/486-2966 ext 16 mailto:mconroy@ohionet.org : From mconroy at ohionet.org Thu May 24 11:46:50 2001 From: mconroy at ohionet.org (Mary Conroy) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Free Web-based Workshop Beginners Genealogical Research on the In ternet Message-ID: <45E65FF9FB4BD3118912005004A2B8F058EBD4@ohionetmail.ohionet.org> Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet Free Web-based Workshop Sponsored by OHIONET Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 18 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 18, 2001. Agenda Syllabus at http://www.kovacs.com/genbegin.html Overview In this Web-based hands-on workshop, students will learn the basics of genealogical research within the context of using the Internet for genealogical research. Audience No genealogical research knowledge is assumed. The workshop might also be useful for those who assist others in doing genealogical research. Participants should know how to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to interact with the Web-based materials. Schedule Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 18 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 18, 2001. Registration and Tuition http://www.kovacs.com/register.html The workshop tuition is free but registration is required Materials All materials will be online on interactive Web pages. Color printed packets will be priority mailed to each participant on receipt of payment, or purchase order. Instructor: Diane K. Kovacs - Kovacs Consulting Internet & World Wide Web Training http://www.kovacs.com Genealogical Research on the Internet -Web-based Workshop in a Book Forthcoming from Neal-Schuman 2001 OHIONET contact: Mary Mlynar Conroy Library Services Coordinator OHIONET, 1500 West Lane Ave, Columbus OH 43221 Fax 614/486-1527 voice 800/686-8975 or 614/486-2966 ext 16 mailto:mconroy@ohionet.org From mconroy at ohionet.org Thu May 24 11:47:47 2001 From: mconroy at ohionet.org (Mary Conroy) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: July 21 (web-based): Genealogical Research on the Internet Part 2 Message-ID: <45E65FF9FB4BD3118912005004A2B8F058EBD5@ohionetmail.ohionet.org> Genealogical Research on the Internet Part 2 International, African-American, Native American, and ... Web-based Workshop Sponsored by OHIONET Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meeting July 21 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins July 21, 2001 Agenda Syllabus at http://www.kovacs.com/genpart2.html Overview In this hands-on Web-based workshop, students will learn to effectively and efficiently use the Internet for advanced genealogical research or to assist others in doing advanced genealogical research. Knowledge of genealogical research is required. The focus is on the 'best' Internet resources to use in doing International, African-American, or Native American genealogical research or assisting others in doing genealogical research in these areas. Audience This workshop is intended for people who want to learn about using the Internet to find high quality, authoritative information for International, African-American, or Native American genealogical research. The basic genealogical research knowledge and basic Internet knowledge provided in the free workshop "Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet" is assumed. "Genealogy Research on the Internet Part 1" is recommended. Participants should know how to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to interact with the Web-based materials. Schedule Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meeting* July 21 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins July 21, 2001. Registration and Tuition http://www.kovacs.com/register.html The workshop tuition is $100 per person. Materials All materials will be online on interactive Web pages. Color printed packets will be priority mailed to each participant on receipt of payment, or purchase order. Instructor: Diane K. Kovacs - Kovacs Consulting Internet & World Wide Web Training http://www.kovacs.com Genealogical Research on the Internet -Web-based Workshop in a Book Forthcoming from Neal-Schuman 2001 OHIONET contact: Mary Mlynar Conroy Library Services Coordinator OHIONET, 1500 West Lane Ave, Columbus OH 43221 Fax 614/486-1527 voice 800/686-8975 or 614/486-2966 ext 16 mailto:mconroy@ohionet.org From RL-Frasier at wiu.edu Thu May 24 13:20:21 2001 From: RL-Frasier at wiu.edu (bob frasier) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Creating local content for web References: <3B0C53F8.A152F102@Goerwitz.COM> Message-ID: <3B0D42D5.338ACEA3@wiu.edu> A good point which brings us back to the original inquiry concerning an inexpensive, easy to use system to manage records in a web environment. If libraries had the budget/commitment required then perhaps fewer people would be looking at systems such as Filemaker. At least in the environments that I'm familiar with, it seems that the commitment extends as far as purchasing an opac. Since these have evolved into, or are maketed as, library management systems, perphaps the view is that these should satisfy the libraries' information systems needs. It seems that one measure of the effectiveness of an opac is the number of home grown systems that have to be grafted onto it in order to satisfy the user needs. (When I arrived here I discovered that virtually every department has their own home-grown records keeping mechanism independant of the opac. Some of these consist of notebooks with 25 years of pieces of paper inserted.) The end result is that much of what we are doing (or at least I am) is patchwork - fixing the holes in an opac - rather than the preferred goal of looking at the libraries needs overall. Bob Frasier Western Illinois University "Richard L. Goerwitz III" wrote: > I think this might move us into some bigger questions re what the > right overall information architecture might be for deployment of > web-based services in today's libraries. > > Libraries have intense information-systems needs, but often lack > the kinds of budgets and IT allocations (not to mention institu- > tional commitment) necessary to fill them. > > Are open-source systems the answer? They don't cost a lot. But > often there is more overhead getting them to interoperate. E.g., > you won't have much trouble getting FrontPage and SQL Server to > work with IIS. But they'll cost you. And FrontPage extensions > have historically be a source of many security problems. Also, > you'll have lots of fun trying to get Microsoft software to in- > teroperate with anything else. But it'll work. And with it you > get the warm feeling of working with an industry behemoth that > isn't going anywhere any time soon. > > Speaking of middle-tier technologies, what of CORBA and DCOM? Do > most libraries even have time to stop and think about what a sen- > sible middle-tier object technology is, still less select and build > one into their systems. I don't know how many of the big OPAC vend- > ors even care about such things. (I'd actually be interested in > knowing about people's experiences with the major OPACs in this > area. Do they offer, e.g., Java/J2EE integration?) > > -- > > Richard Goerwitz richard@Goerwitz.COM > tel: 401 438 8978 From george at library.caltech.edu Thu May 24 13:52:26 2001 From: george at library.caltech.edu (George Porter) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Do you know who is using your ejournals? How or Why? Message-ID: <0C2C50C9B668D311878100A0C9EA367645028E@dungeon.library.caltech.edu> Cross-posted. Please excuse duplication. Feel free to pass this along to others who may be interested. ******************************** There was a great deal of interest expressed in the results of the ejournal use studies announced on these lists in March. I'm happy to report that the presentations went well. ACRL has mounted the invited and contributed papers on their website , in addition to selling copies of the complete, printed proceedings. George Porter and Ed Sponsler conducted a study of electronic journal use using click-through tracking technology. Questions examined include the relationship between use of electronic journals and their print versions; the use of table of contents websites for print journals and its impact on document delivery and interlibrary loan. Both the contributed paper, as submitted, and the slides from the presentation are available . Reports from the conference have been posted on the C&RL News website, Part 1 (May 2001) ; Part 2 (June 2001) . George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 From george at library.caltech.edu Thu May 24 14:26:00 2001 From: george at library.caltech.edu (George Porter) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Creating local content for web Message-ID: <0C2C50C9B668D311878100A0C9EA3676450291@dungeon.library.caltech.edu> Ed Sponsler wrote a detailed account of the scripts developed for the Caltech Library System's Online Journal Database (OJDB) for a recent presentation. The technical sections of the paper detail the Microsoft SQL database design and perl scripts used to log usage and generate static HTML views. Database administration and the dynamic user interface to the database was programmed in Visual Basic using the Microsoft Visual Interdev environment. These .asp source pages will be made available on request. Ed is currently working on a port to purely open source technology: Apache, from IIS mySQL, from MS SQL Perl (Apache mod_perl), from MS Visual Interdev (VB) Linux, from NT Perl/Tk, to generate a GUI administrative interface The port should be completed this summer and will be licensed via the GNU General Public License. George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 From grace.agnew at library.gatech.edu Thu May 24 15:08:35 2001 From: grace.agnew at library.gatech.edu (Grace Agnew) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Workshop Announcement: Managing Digital Video Content Message-ID: <200105241950.OAA52938@libvid2.library.gatech.edu> Managing Digital Video Content Workshop August 15-16, 2001 Atlanta, Georgia http://www.vide.net/conferences/ The workshop will focus on practical applications of current and emerging standards --Dublin Core, ODRL, XrML, and MPEG7-- for describing and managing video assets for any digital video collection, as well as for sharing collection information in the global environment using the Open Archives Initiative (OAI) protocol. Who should attend: Anyone with an interest in managing digital resources (campus video departments, IT departments, librarians and archivists) Registration Fee: $80.00 Registration Deadline: July 1, 2001 Keynote speeches: Globally Sharing Information Assets Clifford Lynch, Executive Director, Coalition for Networked Information MPEG7: Transforming Digital Video Asset Description Jane Hunter, Distributed Systems Technology Centre (DSTC), Australia Presentations: --ViDe Dublin Core Application Profile for Digital Video --OAI Implementation for Dublin Core --XML rights metadata for digital video Putting the pieces together: --Practical experiences digital video and moving image archives --Digital asset management vendor panel --What to look for in a digital asset management system. --Hands-on breakout workshops for applying the standards, with databases and programming provided to attendees Exhibit area showcasing digital asset management system vendors will be available throughout the conference Conference sponsors: Coalition for Networked Information Internet2 Southeastern Universities Research Association ViDe Registration: The conference sponsors require a minimum advance registration of 50; the facilities can hold a maximum of 180. Therefore, please register as soon as possible. Conference web site: Contains registration, agenda, hotel & transportation info: http://www.vide.net/conferences/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20010524/6ebe4ecb/attachment.htm From jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu Thu May 24 19:29:30 2001 From: jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu (JQ Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: <45E65FF9FB4BD3118912005004A2B8F058EBD3@ohionetmail.ohionet.org> Message-ID: Richard Goerwitz writes: >It's interesting that you bring this up. I think the kinds of ab- >stractions you'd normally create with stored procedures and triggers >are normally implemented, in the Perl world (at least where possi- >ble), via object-oriented Perl modules and scripts. The classic reason for using stored procedures is to move some of the business logic out of middleware code and into a shared database. The claim is that it makes more sense to do it there rather than have the same code replicated in a bunch of scripts. As Richard notes, you can of course put the business logic code in a module and just use it from each of your perl scripts, but what happens when, as is becoming increasingly the case, we have web sites that are a mix of perl and PHP and cold fusion and ...? In such cases you need to reimplement your business logic in multiple languages. Say "version skew" 5 times fast. Another reason is abstraction. If I'm a DBA, I want to be able to redesign the database without having to touch a bunch of application code. Imagine a business rule that says "send email if X happens". That could be a trigger within the database. If it's not, then what do we do when a database reorganization implies that X will now happen due to a cascading update? Another practical issue that every database programmer should care about is support for transactions (commit/rollback). Perhaps the real issue here is that the kinds of SQL databases that are currently used in library applications are comparatively simple, and often just read-mostly. For example, except for interfacing to our SIS, our library doesn't maintain any really sophisticated database applications except our Blackboard course management system (which is a turnkey system). I suspect that as the complexity of database applications in the open source community increases we'll see increasing pressure on MySQL and PostGRES to implement more advanced features, which in turn will put pressure on the abstraction layer developers to figure out ways to include such advanced features in the layer. JQ Johnson Office: 115F Knight Library Academic Education Coordinator mailto:jqj@darkwing.uoregon.edu 1299 University of Oregon phone: 1-541-346-1746; -3485 fax Eugene, OR 97403-1299 http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jqj/ From dan at riverofdata.com Thu May 24 20:25:43 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:56:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: IrfanView In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010524101941.048a00e0@sun8.loc.gov> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010524101941.048a00e0@sun8.loc.gov> Message-ID: <16831103103.20010524182543@riverofdata.com> I'd say that Irfan does NOT expect payment from a nonprofit. Remember, though his English is quite good, he's Bosnian, going to school in Austria. He indeed says that it "is provided as freeware, but only for private, non-commercial use (that means at home)." But then goes on to say: "If you intend to use IrfanView at your place of business or for commercial purposes, please register and purchase it." To my way of thinking, that means that loc.gov or boisestate.edu can use it for free. We certainly do at Boise State. We are not a place of business or using it for commercial purposes. Also, he encourages anyone to send him a ten dollar bill or equivalent in cash if they like it and want it to continue to develop. I've done so, and may do so again. I'm one who is really righteous about paying for shareware, but I consider this to be freeware. One more reason to consider it freeware is because it is so labelled at download.com and elsewhere, and Irfan's own website labels it as freeware in large letters in the bottom left corner of the homepage. Even though he asks for cash, I'll bet that he'd be able to handle the bank charges if loc.gov cut him a check for a couple grand for all the copies you wanted to pay for. 8-) cheers dan Thursday, May 24, 2001, 8:43:02 AM, you wrote: ELB> My problem with Irfan View is paying for it. The license agreement is pretty clear that it's freeware only for use on home computers (exact words: "this means at home"). But to use it anywhere ELB> else, you are supposed to send $10 (or DM20), in cash to an address in Austria. ELB> This information is here: . Click "Irfan View?" on the left and then scroll down to the usage agreement. ELB> Instead my work group has been using AlternaTIFF for TIFF viewing. ELB> If anyone wants my step-by-step instructions for disabling Quicktime from trying to view TIFF files, or for asking Alternatiff to ignore TIFF aspect ratio header tags (which are often ELB> incorrect), send a note to me off list. ELB> Elizabeth Brown ELB> At 05:33 PM 5/23/01 -0700, you wrote: >>I see on www.download.com that IrfanView has gathered a few negative comments. I would recommend that anyone interested in downloading the program read the reviews first. I certainly don't want my >>recommendation to result in brickbats thrown my way. :| >> >>I think it's a great program. >> >>Phalbe Henriksen -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From Mvanhouten at albion.edu Wed May 2 08:40:39 2001 From: Mvanhouten at albion.edu (Michael VanHouten) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:30 2005 Subject: Indexing question Message-ID: Hello everyone - A patron is looking for some simple-to-use indexing software for someone who is working on a book and needs to develop an index. Can anyone suggest any programs that are relatively low in cost and easy to use (if there is such a thing)? Thanks! Mike Michael Van Houten Assistant Director of Libraries and Head of Public Services Stockwell-Mudd Libraries Albion College 602 E. Cass St. Albion, MI 49224 517-629-0382 mvanhouten@albion.edu From victoriawl at guigne.com Wed May 2 10:33:57 2001 From: victoriawl at guigne.com (Victoria Woodworth-Lynas) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:30 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: My name is Victoria Woodworth-Lynas. I am an employee with Guigne Technologies Ltd, in Newfoundland, Canada. Our company is endeavoring to create its own digital library for our intranet. I am looking for any information you may be able to give me pertaining to automation, technology, facilities, personnel, security, policies and procedures. I am also looking for types of software available when creating such a library. Any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I hope to hear from you as soon as possible. Thank you very much, Victoria Woodworth-Lynas victoriawl@guigne.com From wild at sfo.com Wed May 2 11:50:24 2001 From: wild at sfo.com (Will Doherty) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:30 2005 Subject: EFF: San Francisco May 6 Internet Blocking Panel Discussion Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010502084934.04e1aec0@va.eff.org> Media Advisory Contact: Katina Bishop Director of Education & Offline Activism Electronic Frontier Foundation +1 415 -436- 9333 x101 Join the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) in a Panel Discussion on Internet Blocking in Schools and Libraries WHO: Electronic Frontier Foundation: Will Doherty, Online Activist and Lee Tien, Senior Staff Attorney; James C. Hormel Gay and Lesbian Center: Jim Mitulski; N2H2: David Burt, Market Researcher; San Francisco Board of Supervisors: Mark Leno; San Francisco Public Library: Susan Hildreth; Santa Clara University: Tom Shanks, Ph.D, Professor. WHAT: "BayFF" Panel Discussion on Internet Blocking in Schools and Libraries: Law, Litigation, and Community Response WHEN: Sunday, May 6, 2001 at 2:00 PM Pacific Time WHERE: San Francisco Public Library Room: Koret Auditorium 100 Larkin Street, San Francisco, CA 94102 Tel: 415-557-4400 (for directions only) This event is free and open to the general public. With the United States Congress' passage of legislation requiring the use of Internet blocking technologies in all public schools and libraries participating in certain federal programs, it has become clear that these schools and libraries are facing a variety of challenges. This presentation, panel, and discussion session will provide a lively forum for discussion of Internet blocking technology and policy. Panelists: Will Doherty is the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Online Activist. He spearheads online outreach and grassroots organizing on EFF's pioneering work to protect Internet free speech and privacy rights. Doherty also currently serves as Founder and Executive Director of the Online Policy Group, dedicated to "one Internet with equal access for all." Doherty has designed and implemented Internet strategies and websites for many nonprofit community and advocacy organizations. David Burt is currently employed as a market researcher and analyst at N2H2, a leading Internet filtering company. Mr. Burt joined N2H2 in April 2000 after nearly three years as president of Filtering Facts, an organization devoted to the study and promotion of Internet content management software. Susan Hildreth is the City Librarian for the San Francisco Public Library.She has served as both Acting City Librarian and Deputy City Librarian since July 1998. She has previously worked with the California State Library, the Sacramento Public Library, the Placer County Library and other public libraries in northern California. She is active in both the American Library Association and the California Library Association and is an advocate for the library's role as a provider of all types of information for all users. Other Particiants: Tom Shanks, Ph.D., is Senior Fellow in Business and Public Policy at the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics and Associate Professor of Communication at Santa Clara University in Santa Clara, California. He is also a Senior Scholar with the Washington, D.C., Ethics Resource Center. Shanks is a nationally-recognized expert in ethical decision-making and has conducted workshops and teaching seminars on ethics and values for corporate and nonprofit leaders, business and professional organizations, educators, engineering professionals, health care providers, and students. Lee Tien is a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non profit public-interest organization based in San Francisco. He specializes in free speech law, including intersections with intellectual property law and privacy law. Before joining EFF, he also litigated FOIA cases. He has published articles on children's sexuality and information technology, anonymity, surveillance, and the First Amendment status of computer software. Mark Leno is a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. He recently introduced a Board resolution that prohibits the use of Internet blocking software on computers owned by the City or County of San Francisco. This event is sponsored by: Electronic Frontier Foundation, San Francisco Public Library, James C. Hormel Gay and Lesbian Center, Friends and Foundation of the San Francisco Public Library, Online Policy Group, and Mark Leno, Member of Board of Supervisors, San Francisco. The San Francisco Public Library is located across the street from the Civic Center BART/Muni stop. For directions to the event, you can use free services like: http://www.mapquest.com or http://maps.yahoo.com to generate driving directions or maps. For CalTrain and Muni directions,please call their information lines. You can subscribe to receive future BayFF announcements. To subscribe, email majordomo@eff.org and put this in the text (not the subject line): subscribe bayff. Continuing over 10 years of defending civil liberties online, EFF presents a series of monthly meetings to address important issues where technology and policy collide. These meetings, entitled "BayFF" (Bay-area Friends of Freedom), kicked off on July 10, 2000, and will continue on a monthly basis. For more information, see: The Electronic Frontier Foundation: http://www.eff.org BayFF Meetings Info Page: http://www.eff.org/bayff The Electronic Frontier Foundation is the leading civil liberties organization working to protect rights in the digital world. Founded in 1990, EFF actively encourages and challenges industry and government to support free expression, privacy, and openness in the information society. EFF is a member supported organization and maintains one of the most-linked-to websites in the world: http://www.eff.org From davidt at mathforum.com Wed May 2 14:47:45 2001 From: davidt at mathforum.com (David Tristano) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:30 2005 Subject: No subject (digital library software) References: Message-ID: <3AF05651.E7681BE5@mathforum.com> Here's a good resource for digital library info: IFLANET - DIGITAL LIBRARIES: Resources and Projects http://www.ifla.org/II/diglib.htm Concerning software, go to the site above, then follow the links to "DIGLIB mailing list" then check out the mailing list archive. There have been recent (April 2001) discussions of digital library software. David Tristano Developer The Math Forum / MathDL Victoria Woodworth-Lynas wrote: > > My name is Victoria Woodworth-Lynas. I am an employee with Guigne > Technologies Ltd, in Newfoundland, Canada. Our company is endeavoring to > create its own digital library for our intranet. I am looking for any > information you may be able to give me pertaining to automation, technology, > facilities, personnel, security, policies and procedures. I am also looking > for types of software available when creating such a library. Any > information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I hope to hear > from you as soon as possible. > Thank you very much, > Victoria Woodworth-Lynas > victoriawl@guigne.com From drobinson at hwwexch.hwwilson.com Wed May 2 15:56:16 2001 From: drobinson at hwwexch.hwwilson.com (Dan Robinson) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:30 2005 Subject: Filtering and frustrations Message-ID: <0DBB337BAB6ABA4F8F7772585216794F0C78C7@HWWEXCH.hwwilson.com> For a nice overview of problems with filtering and one person's frustrations take a look at Dan Robinson drobinson@hwwilson.com From jschult at elmira.edu Wed May 2 17:28:58 2001 From: jschult at elmira.edu (Julia Schult) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Impact of statewide database deals? References: <3AE81B2E.14C16A71@Goerwitz.COM> Message-ID: <013201c0d34e$e60263c0$02898c0a@elmira.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L. Goerwitz III" > Jerry Kuntz wrote: > > > > In New York State, remote access authentication methods are > > negotiated between the vendors and the separate library systems > > that register for access. > > This is interesting. Let me play the adversary for a moment - > > Frankly, that sounds like no remote access solution at all. NY > has constituent institutions negotiating authentication and author- > ization with each vendor, which isn't exactly efficient or con- > sistent. And each one has to negotiate remote access on its own, > necessitating more individual negotiations with each vendor and/or > individual and possibly redundant deployments of remote-access > solutions like regular and reverse/rewriting proxy servers (some- > thing many libraries don't have the systems people to support, and > that those who have the systems people will now have to do redun- > dantly). > > I'd be interested in hearing how you feel about this setup - and > if I've misunderstood what's going on, please correct me, or add > any details you think might interest those of us out here who are > grappling with these same issues! Okay, I'll bite... And may put my foot in my mouth, too... Having just moved to New York State <3 years ago, it is very interesting to grapple with how things work here. We have the opposite problems the Wyoming folks do. There are so many libraries, so many different types of libraries, and so many different communities with greatly differing needs, that it is amazingly difficult to get anything accomplished at the state level. People in this state haggle over everything, with the urban vs. rural, upstate vs. downstate, and other usually political differences adding to the usual library differences of library type, size, and funding source. That is why having the state do contractual pricing but leaving the details to individual libraries is the first solution that has really worked in this state; we sign our library up for the state contracted Health Reference Database (for instance) at no charge, and integrate it with the way the rest of our databases work. My small private college library will not be offering off-campus access until sometime this summer (knock on wood) while others have been offering it for years. But, there are so many people in this state (almost 19 million according to the 2000 census) that to set up a remote authentication system for all residents, that works, and to keep it up-to-date, would require a level of cooperation and funding that, well, seems rather out of reach. We have more separate colleges (319) than any other state in the country except California (396). The SUNY schools are starting to standardize services through state initiatives, but the public library systems either each do their own thing or are in regional consortia. When you have that broad a base of different technological yardsticks, getting everyone to agree to a standard is difficult. You used the phrase "isn't exactly efficient or consistent." That describes New York State to a T. However, that doesn't mean that useful things can't be done at the state level. Things like giving a tool and letting each library implement it within their own context. I like that better than giving a tool only to the public libraries and K-12s, or only to the state-funded college libraries, or other piecemeal solutions. ---Julia E. Schult Access/Electronic Services Librarian Elmira College Jschult@elmira.edu From dsaklad at gnu.org Mon May 7 05:53:21 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: How to set up our Boston Public Lib GNU/LINUX install fest. Message-ID: Via http://guidetoproblematicallibraryuse.weblogs.com How to set up our Boston Public Lib GNU/LINUX *N*X install fest How would our Chelsea and Boston Public Libraries Boston Public Schools GNU/LINUX install fest events be organized?... http://lxny.org http://www.njlug.org/ How would our Cambridge, Brookline and Somerville Public Libraries Public Schools GNU/LINUX install fest events be organized?... http://www.blu.org/cgi-bin/events.cgi/2001-ifest10 Add your comments, concerns, suggestions and questions! http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/discuss/edit/newStory oo__ dWs Guide to Problematical Boston Public Library Use http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com From dmadriga at MAIL.NYSED.GOV Mon May 7 09:39:25 2001 From: dmadriga at MAIL.NYSED.GOV (Diane Madrigal) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Opera question Message-ID: Shouldn't it be "middle" for vertical alignment? Diane Madrigal New York State Library New York State Education Department >>> "Drew, Bill" 05/04/01 12:47PM >>> I solved the one problem I was having with Opera to my satisfaction. Opera did not like 'valign="center"' in my td tag. I changed it to valing="top" and the problem is solved. Don't know why this makes any difference. Some of you sent me some ideas about misplaced styles. I am looking into that as well. Bill Drew From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Mon May 7 09:55:55 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Opera question Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B44C@mail1.morrisville.edu> Diane and others are correct. I just made the change. Logically it doesn't make sense to me to use different words for such things. Why not center or middle for both align and valign? Just a rhetorical question. Bill Drew From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon May 7 10:26:06 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Opera question References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B44C@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <003701c0d701$a90881a0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew, Bill" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Opera question > Diane and others are correct. I just made the change. Logically it doesn't > make sense to me to use different words for such things. Why not center or > middle for both align and valign? Just a rhetorical question. I believe the answer lies in the IMG tag, where some genius (*cough*Netscape*cough*) added an align attribute to handle both horizontal and vertical placement, thus requiring different words for horizontal and vertical centering. The center/middle distinction carried over to other tags, even when they more sensibly provided both align and valign attributes (though, of course, "halign" would have been even more obvious at that point, imo). It's enough to make you think the development of HTML should have had some sort of standards process involved, rather than corporate ad hockery. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From bennetttm at appstate.edu Mon May 7 10:40:45 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Javascript or CSS question? In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B445@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: I'm sure this wouldn't be feasible at this time but for future reference, this is where Zope would be ideal. I define a list in the parent directory which is the root directory for the WEB server. Then I can call that list as a tag from any directory below that and it is published dynamically so when I change the list it is automatically changed on every page. If I have a document that needs additional selections I can add those before calling the default list because I usually don't put the beginning selection tag on the list but rather on each page so I can use name= which is pertinent to the database that will be using the result. Being an object oriented WEB publishing environment, one of Zope's features I like most is this property of inheritance. This also works great if you have a static menu (text or graphic) to publish on every page. Define the menu one time in the top parent directory and just use one tag to call it from every page. The same with logos, a graphic. Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Drew, Bill Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Javascript or CSS question? I have been upgrading our library webpages to use CSS and have also added a "quicklinks" pull down menu form to allow those who know where they want to got to do so more quickly. Is there any way other than SSI or such to get a pull down menu that I can modify from just one file that will either be called by a script in the pull down menu or via CSS? I am thinking along the lines of arrays but can't find a good example to work from. I want to be able to add new links to one file and have it appear from all the pages. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Mon May 7 13:20:51 2001 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B44C@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <3AF6D973.90DF3053@cdrewu.edu> Ever run into one of those pop-up windows that just won't go away? Even if you get rid of it....in about two minutes it comes back up? http://clickz.com/article/cz.3860.html -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl From chrisd at lcls.org Mon May 7 14:17:49 2001 From: chrisd at lcls.org (Chris Deweese) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. Message-ID: <200105071317.AA4148298054@mailman.lcls.org> Weather.com has been popping up ads a lot on me lately. Anyone know a way to stop that? The ads on weather.com are not as bad as some of the horror stories I've heard where people say they eventually just have to press the reset button because so many windows just keep opening. It is just one of those annoying HTML tricks that they felt compelled to create :) Chris Deweese Webmaster http://www.lcls.lib.il.us/ Edwardsville IL 62025 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Charles P. Hobbs" Reply-To: chhobbs@cdrewu.edu Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:19:55 -0700 (PDT) >Ever run into one of those pop-up windows that just won't go away? Even if >you get rid of it....in about two minutes it comes back up? > >http://clickz.com/article/cz.3860.html >-- >Charles P. Hobbs >King Drew Health Science Library >http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl > > > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon May 7 14:10:37 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. References: <3AF6D973.90DF3053@cdrewu.edu> Message-ID: <002801c0d721$4984b3a0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > Ever run into one of those pop-up windows that just won't go away? Even if > you get rid of it....in about two minutes it comes back up? > > http://clickz.com/article/cz.3860.html Considering the load that a new browser window can put on some systems, I consider this a minor DOS hack. It's the number one reason I surf with JavaScript off. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From btcarver at lisnews.com Mon May 7 17:09:18 2001 From: btcarver at lisnews.com (Blake Carver) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. References: <200105071317.AA4148298054@mailman.lcls.org> Message-ID: <008401c0d739$faecbb20$1e010a0a@chek.com> I see that stupid webcam ad on more than just weather.com lately, the latimes does it now too. It really bothers me that big, popular sites like weather and the latimes have resorted to this kind of crap. The giant flash ads on news.com are totally unbearable as well. These ads are getting out of control, I understand they need to make some money, but it's just getting obscene. I dread the future of the web if this is what we are seeing now. You can turn off JavaScript or run webwasher to stop it. --------------------- Blake Carver LISNews.com http://www.lisnews.com Librarian and Information Science News ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Deweese" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. > Weather.com has been popping up ads a lot on me lately. Anyone know a way to stop that? The ads on weather.com are not as bad as some of the horror stories I've heard where people say they eventually just have to press the reset button because so many windows just keep opening. It is just one of those annoying HTML tricks that they felt compelled to create :) > > Chris Deweese > Webmaster > http://www.lcls.lib.il.us/ > Edwardsville IL 62025 > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Charles P. Hobbs" > Reply-To: chhobbs@cdrewu.edu > Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:19:55 -0700 (PDT) > > >Ever run into one of those pop-up windows that just won't go away? Even if > >you get rid of it....in about two minutes it comes back up? > > > >http://clickz.com/article/cz.3860.html > >-- > >Charles P. Hobbs > >King Drew Health Science Library > >http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl > > > > > > > From calumet at Mindspring.com Mon May 7 14:25:36 2001 From: calumet at Mindspring.com (Tara Calishain) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. In-Reply-To: <002801c0d721$4984b3a0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010507142450.024878f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> At 02:13 PM 5/7/2001, Thomas Dowling wrote: > > Ever run into one of those pop-up windows that just won't go away? Even >if > > you get rid of it....in about two minutes it comes back up? > > > > http://clickz.com/article/cz.3860.html > > >Considering the load that a new browser window can put on some systems, I >consider this a minor DOS hack. It's the number one reason I surf with >JavaScript off. Norton Internet Security allows you to block only JavaScript popups and allow other JavaScript. Handy for sites that use JavaScript validation in forms, etc. Tara From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Mon May 7 14:48:34 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. In-Reply-To: <3AF6D973.90DF3053@cdrewu.edu> References: <3AF6D973.90DF3053@cdrewu.edu> Message-ID: We had a user complain to the Library director (who complained to my boss, who complained to me) that the homepage on one of our public workstations was set to a porn site. Didn't we have some kind of security for preventing someone from messing with our settings? Well, yes we do (Fortres) and it works just fine. Turns out that the previous user had pointed the browser at one of these sites which keep generating new pages whenever you close one. He (gender assumed) apparently fled in shame and/ or fear, leaving the hydra-headed site for the next unsuspecting user. You can usually end such loops by quitting the browser but the new user misread the symptoms and blamed us for not taking better measures to protect him/her (gender not assumed) from offensive material. -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz >Ever run into one of those pop-up windows that just won't go away? Even if >you get rid of it....in about two minutes it comes back up? From dan at riverofdata.com Mon May 7 15:17:57 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: help on capturing links? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91868581103.20010507131757@riverofdata.com> Thursday, May 03, 2001, 6:36:23 PM, you wrote: ME> We are using proxy server on our public catalog PCs, and also want to ME> provide access to our subscription databases on these machines. One of ME> these databases is CollegeSource, which has links to a very large number of ME> college web sites. Is there any software, preferably free or shareware, ME> that will spider a site and return a text file list of the outbound links on ME> that site? I've not seen an answer to this, so I'll offer a couple of comments. First, I don't see why the proxy server is an issue here. CollegeSource runs through ours just fine. Second, though it has links to many college sites, you could also get those same links from Yahoo or other sources. Are you trying to build a page of college links? Also, the college catalogs themselves appear to be coming from the collegesource server, not from the institutional websites. If they didn't do it that way, they'd not have the control they need. Finally, as to the question, there are a host of programs that can harvest the pages in a website, but I'm not sure that any of them will do so from an ASP based site like CollegeSource. dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From dfk at snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu Mon May 7 15:40:16 2001 From: dfk at snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu (Dan Kissane) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Sleazy sites...it's not just porno anymore. In-Reply-To: <002801c0d721$4984b3a0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: http://tungacademy.virtualave.net/taichi/attention/popupclosers.html Here are some suppposed pop-up preventers. Dan Kissane Reference Librarian SUNY College at Oneonta Oneonta, NY 13820 dfk@oneonta.edu personal web site: www.dmcom.net/dkissane From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon May 7 15:56:44 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: Use of a collaborative 24x7 chat-based reference service Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB0423256A@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> A few weeks ago (April 19) I posted some preliminary usage data for the Ready for Reference pilot project, which is providing 24x7 live reference service to the users of eight academic libraries in central and western Illinois. The usage data I presented in April were based on 176 user-initiated live reference sessions from a roughly two-week period from March 28 through April 12. I now have usage data based on 474 sessions from a 13-week period from January 31 through April 29. These new data summarize use by hour of day (at one-hour intervals), by day of week, and by week. This brief report is available on the Web at: http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/~b-sloan/ready4ref.htm Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From Ldavids at northwestern.edu Mon May 7 16:59:45 2001 From: Ldavids at northwestern.edu (Lloyd Davidson) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: Subj: Clifford Lynch to speak - ALA Preconference on Ebooks Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010507155550.00d90280@casbah.it.northwestern.edu> Clifford Lynch will make a key note address at an ALA Preconference on Ebooks on June 15th 2001 in San Francisco. Other speakers include Dennis McNannay, Sandra K. Paul of SKP Associates, and Susan Gibbons of the Ebook Evaluation Project in NY. Denise Troll, Associate University Librarian at Carnegie Mellon will moderate the day's sessions. This all-day preconference will provide understandable background in ebook standards, businessness models and how these activities affect libraries and what libraries need to provide ebook services to their clientele. Attendees will leave with clear guidelines for evaluating potential ebook services for their situations. The full description of the preconference is at: http://www.lita.org/ac2001/ebooks.htm ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From benjes at hsc.usc.edu Mon May 7 17:06:17 2001 From: benjes at hsc.usc.edu (Candice Benjes-Small) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: plug-ins for librarians In-Reply-To: <200105070036.RAA21516@webjunction.org> Message-ID: I am trying to find out about plug-ins and other browser-extending tools that librarians may find useful in their jobs. For example, I've found Gator to be useful because I need to fill in many online forms. Some of my colleagues find the Yahoo toolbar to be a great device. So, for example, I use: Adobe Acrobat Shockwave RealMedia IPIX Gator If you use other plug-ins/tools, please e-mail me at: benjes@usc.edu. I'd love to hear from you! Thanks, Candice Candice Benjes-Small Information Specialist Norris Medical Library University of Southern California benjes@usc.edu From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon May 7 20:59:26 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: Updating My Digital Reference Services Bibliography Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB04232578@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> I am getting ready to update my digital reference services bibliography (see: http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/~b-sloan/digiref.html for the current version). In the past I've done the searching myself to find new entries. This time I'd also like to ask the assistance of the digital reference community at large. Do you know of any good recent articles or reports (either paper or Web-based) on the topic of digital/online reference services? Here are a few recent examples of what I am looking for: http://www.charlestonco.com/features.cfm?id=59&type=fr http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/apr01/broughton.htm http://www.infotoday.com/cilmag/apr01/coffman.htm http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/~b-sloan/ready4ref.htm Thanks in advance for any items you may contribute! Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From cchick at earthlink.net Tue May 8 00:06:16 2001 From: cchick at earthlink.net (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:31 2005 Subject: LLRX.com Update for May 7, 2001 Message-ID: New on LLRX.com for May 7, 2001: http://www.llrx.com **LLRX Buzz http://www.llrx.com/buzz/buzz55.htm Trademark.com Adds Canadian Files ADRWorld.com Launches ADR Website DOE Launches Directives, Regulations, Policies and Standards Portal Lots of Airport Information iLOR Introduces New Search Toolset Google Expands their Archives **LLRX News: updated daily http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm New Technology Helps Protect Data Loose on the Internet Digital Patents Go to Court Copyright Battle: Is an E-Book a Book? Oxford Creates World's First Internet Institute Hackers Cripple White House Site Flaw Found in Internet Standard SEC Launches Online Investment Study Hacker Group Launches Anti-MPAA Web Site Hackers Cripple White House Site Flaw Found in Internet Standard **Tech Trends: http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm#TechTrends Privacy Concerns for Google Archive Patents: Requests for New Trademarks by Patent Companies Have Fallen Defending the Cookie Monster A Review of Nicholson Baker's Double Fold: Libraries and the Assault on Paper Napster Alternatives Microsoft Office XP: Should you buy? **CongressLine News: http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm#CongressLine GAO Report - Financial Privacy: Too Soon to Assess the Privacy Provisions in the Graham-Leach-Bliley Act **LLRX Featured Site: http://www.llrx.com Biz.com Government and Business Directory This meta-site focuses on links to government and business sources on the Web. The directory is searchable, or you may click through a hierarchical list of topics and sub-topics. There are links to: federal government forms; gov't assistance, grants, and loans; 300 U.S. & int'l newspapers and periodicals; and you may search U.S. gov't procurements and contracts. **Law Pro Links http://www.llrx.com/llrxlink.htm -How Much Information? - A study was produced by faculty and students at the School of Information Management and Systems at the University of California at Berkeley about how big the information explosion really is. -Ross L. Kodner's ABA Tech Show Presentations -ResourceMate 2.0 - Inexpensive cataloging software. -Duke University's Survey of Live Online Reference Services From m.napier at ukoln.ac.uk Tue May 8 05:24:27 2001 From: m.napier at ukoln.ac.uk (Marieke Napier) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: Welcome to Issue 4 of Cultivate Interactive Message-ID: <02c201c0d7a0$ae09a220$d413268a@ukoln.ac.uk> Welcome to Issue 4 of Cultivate Interactive Issue 4 of Cultivate Interactive is now available: The highlights include: Feature Articles ---------------------- The Sign on the Door: Establishing a Top-level Museum Domain on the Internet http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/museum/ Cary Karp explains why we need the new .museum top level domain and details its evolution. Eurospeak http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/eurospeak/ The European Commission's Translation Service's Emma Wagner discusses what she calls 'the disease of Eurospeak' and details guidelines for improvement, which the Translation Service are trying to get across to authors inside the EC. Asia IT&C http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/asia/ Mike Robbins takes us on a tour of a European Commission Initiative that is attempting to bridge the digital divide in Asia. Global Museum http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/global/ Roger Smith, the founder and director of this highly successful international Webzine, shares his experiences of online publications and the rationale for establishing a museum-based compendium site. Regular Articles ---------------------- National Node Column http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/nodes/ Pascale Van Dinter of the Scientific and Technical Information Service (STIS) reports on the Belgian role in the Cultivate Project. OAI Open Meeting http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/oai/ Rachel Heery on the European Open Archives Initiative Meeting held in held in the Berlin State Library (Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin). 2 Articles on streaming video... An Introduction to Streaming Video http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/video/ David Cunningham and Neil Francis report on the technologies available, as well as some of the problems encountered when trying to stream video content across the Internet. Streaming Video: A Look Behind The Scenes http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/scenes/ Jim Strom gives us a behind the scenes look at what can be achieved with streaming video using a number of examples and case studies. JNUL's Ketubbot Digitisation Project http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/ketubbot/ Elhanan Adler and Orly Simon on the Jewish National University Library's digitisation project aimed at making many of its unique collections accessible to remote users. Other Areas ------------------ Competition Cultivate Interactive's Spot the European City Competition. http://www.cultivate-int.org/issue4/competition/ If you have any queries regarding Cultivate Interactive or writing for Cultivate Interactive please send them to -------------------------------------------------------- Marieke Napier, Information Officer Editor of the Cultivate Interactive Web magazine UKOLN, University of Bath, BATH, England, BA2 7AY Exploit Interactive: http://www.exploit-lib.org/ Cultivate Interactive: http://www.cultivate-int.org/ Homepage: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/ukoln/staff/m.napier/ Phone: 01225 826354 FAX: 01225 826838 From bennetttm at appstate.edu Tue May 8 10:42:27 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Managing E-mail Reference Questions In-Reply-To: <3AF19563.4E001167@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: Our "Ask A Librarian" page offers an email mailto link and a form which submits the information to, yep you guessed it, a PostgreSQL database through the Zope server. Librarians volunteer to support this service. The librarian goes to a web page to view new submissions and has the option to assign each submission individually to his/herself. Also on this page are links to email the library reference list, email a specific person in the library(to collaborate on answering the submission), view all records, view all records already processed, and view FAQ records. Next the librarian can choose his/her name in a drop down list of librarians to go to his/her page of unanswered/un-archived submissions. This interface gives the librarian the opportunity to reply to the question which emails it to the submitter and submits it into the database, add to the list of processed records which removes it from view on this page and sets a bool in the database, add to FAQ which can only be done before adding to processed records. Example of the Interface: (if your email wraps on a short character count the last word in each line is as follows: Status, Reply @, Done, FAQ) Info From Question Status Submitted on: bennett test reboot of linux server Reply @ 2001-02-26 15:00:33-05 ASU_Staff Addto Done Phone: bennetttm@appstate.edu Addto FAQ 123 456 7890 The Reply, Addto Done, and Addto FAQ are buttons and the @ is a little graphic that indicates the question has already been replied to if it is blue and the question has not been replied to if it is red. This graphic allows the librarian to keep the question on this page without having to archive it if he/she thinks there may be some additional follow-up. Archiving to a database made it easy to get stats for the annual report by doing a count on Affiliation field:(the default menu selection is ASU_Student) March 23, 2000 - April 19, 2001 Affiliation Count ----------------------------- ASU_Alumni 4 ASU_Distance_Learning 29 ASU_Faculty 31 ASU_Staff 18 ASU_Student 232 Other 4 Total 318 The limit to stats is only limited by what you can do with SQL and then you can always export the database to a comma delimited file and import into your favorite tool which takes this type of file. I don't have a count on email submissions. Email submissions are checked on a computer at the Reference Desk in Netscape Mail and archived on that computer. Cost of Server and Database Software $0.00. Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Mutch Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Managing E-mail Reference Questions We are in the process of revamping our library web site. One element of the site that we will be highlighting in the new design is our "Ask A Librarian" service which allows patrons to submit reference questions through a web-based form. Our current version of this service gets limited use and I know from what others have reported that this type of service may take some time to generate significant use by patrons. However, in the event that the redesign does generate more responses from our site visitors, I would like to have a system in place to manage the responses. I don't want to have to re-invent the wheel to do this. So, I'm curious as to what systems people use to manage their e-mail reference questions. I would envision that a good system would include the ability: * Route questions dependent upon departments/services * Track the status of the various e-mail questions * Allow questions to be assigned "owners" * Archive questions * Generate statistics * Other things that I haven't thought of but people will tell me are "must have" I'm looking for something that is easy to set-up and maintain and relatively easy for staff to utilize. I'm trying to avoid a proprietary or thrown-together solution that runs on a wing and a prayer. Thank you, Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From catherine at leo.scsl.state.sc.us Tue May 8 11:51:18 2001 From: catherine at leo.scsl.state.sc.us (Catherine Buck Morgan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: .wav files Message-ID: <3AF815F6.61908C77@leo.scsl.state.sc.us> Our public machines (Win95) are locked down with Fortres, and there are no saves to anything but the A: drive. However, whenever a patron accesses a file with RealPlayer, an icon gets placed on the desktop, which drives some of our ref lib nuts (they believe the patron has gotten through security), and they "hassle" the IT people to move it immediately. (It's been one of those days--, folks; I believe it's called Monday-- hey look, it's Tuesday.) The latest culprit is an Islam.wav file. For some reason, this icon doesn't disappear when we reboot. We have to disable Fortres, delete the icon, and re-enable the security. I've checked the Fortres settings, and they appear secure. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Catherine Buck Morgan Automation Librarian South Carolina State Library EMAIL: catherine@leo.scsl.state.sc.us Phone: 803.734.8651 Fax 803.734.4757 Home page: http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/ Web catalog: http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/scslweb/welcome.html The opinions stated herein are not necessarily those of SCSL. From Michel.Fingerhut at ircam.fr Tue May 8 12:23:17 2001 From: Michel.Fingerhut at ircam.fr (Michel Fingerhut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: ISMIR'2001 - CFP Message-ID: <001e01c0d7db$30219210$03c06681@ircam.fr> ISMIR *UPDATED* CALL FOR PARTICIPATION NEW DEADLINE: MAY 21ST, 2001 ___________________________________________________________________ ISMIR (International Symposium on Music Information Retrieval) 2001 October 15-17, 2001 @ Indiana University Bloomington http://ismir2001.indiana.edu/ ___________________________________________________________________ Join us for ISMIR 2001 - an intensive and lively forum on the rapidly emerging realm of Music Information Retrieval (Music IR)! ISMIR 2001 builds upon the very successful ISMIR 2000 meeting held last year in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Explore with your colleagues the exciting potential Music IR has for a wide variety of applications in the educational and academic domains as well as in the area of entertainment. ISMIR offers the only information exchange to focus exclusively on Music IR, enabling scholars to move more quickly toward viable solutions to many challenges. Call for participation submissions deadline is *now* extended to May 21st, 2001. (details below) Sincerely, The ISMIR Organizing Committee J. Stephen Downie, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (ISMIR Chair) David Bainbridge, University of Waikato, New Zealand (Program Chair) Gerry Bernbom, Indiana University Donald Byrd, University of Massachusetts - Amherst Tim Crawford, Kings College, London Michael Fingerhut, IRCAM - Centre Pompidou, Paris _________________________________________________________ *** CALL FOR PARTICIPATION *** DEADLINE: MAY 21, 2001 *** _________________________________________________________ PAPERS * Submissions must be received by May 21, 2001 * 3000 - 5000 words (approximately 10 pages) * Include 150-200 words abstract * Must consist of original contributions (not previously published, and not currently being considered for publication elsewhere) * To be peer-reviewed * In the event there are more excellent papers than can fit into the symposium program, we may request some paper submissions become poster sessions * To submit your paper, two steps are required: 1) Provide author information and paper title using using the Web form provided 2) Use the template for formatting instruction The Web form and template are provided at: http://ismir2001.indiana.edu/ _______________ POSTER SESSIONS * Submissions must be received by May 21, 2001 * Extended abstract 750 - 1000 words (2 pages maximum, including references, to be included in symposium proceedings) * Poster sessions will consist of printed posters - exact sizes TBA. * Internet connection will be provided for each poster session * You are encouraged to bring a laptop computer * To submit your poster, two steps are required: 1) Provide author information and paper title using using the Web form provided 2) Use the template for formatting instruction The Web form and template are provided at: http://ismir2001.indiana.edu/ _________________ ISMIR 2001 THEMES Topics to be covered may include, but are not limited to, the following: * Music representation and indexing * Estimating similarity of music - perceptual criteria such as pitch, rhythm, timbre; - musical criteria such as form, genre, etc. * Problems of recognizing music optically and/or via audio * Routing and filtering for music * Building up music databases * Evaluation of music-IR systems * Intellectual property rights issues * User interfaces for music IR * Issues related to musical styles and genres * Language modeling for music * User needs and expectations Music in this context is not restricted to a particular genre (monophonic, polyphonic, non-Western, microtonal, polyrhythmic, etc.) nor to a particular encoding or representation (sheet music, MIDI, recorded vocal and/or electroacoustic music, etc.). _______________ KEYNOTE ADDRESS David Cope is a composer, music theorist, and professor of music at the University of California, Santa Cruz. Cope has been interested for many years in what might be described as simulating specific musical styles by computer: he is the creator of software that implements, books that describe, and CDs that demonstrate (with Bach, Mozart, Prokofieff and other composers) his unique and remarkably successful approach. More recently, he has been working on a program that analyzes music for allusions to other music. Other invited speakers - to be announced. _______________ IMPORTANT DATES May 21, 2001 -- Deadline for Paper/Poster Submissions June 29, 2001 -- Authors Notified of Committee Decision August 6, 2001 -- Final Paper Submission September 29, 2001 -- Registration Deadline ______________________________________ ISMIR 2001 LOCATION AND ACCOMMODATIONS ISMIR will be held on the beautiful campus of Indiana University Bloomington (http://www.iub.edu/). You'll feel right at home in the casual, academic atmosphere during the most brilliantly colorful time of the fall season. The Indiana Memorial Union, (http://www.imu.indiana.edu/) the centerpiece of the campus, is the location for most ISMIR activities as well as the hotel. The ISMIR Web pages will be updated regularly to include an online registration form and program content and schedule. The registration fee for ISMIR will be $150. http://ismir2001.indiana.edu/ From chrisd at lcls.org Tue May 8 12:21:22 2001 From: chrisd at lcls.org (Chris Deweese) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] .wav files Message-ID: <200105081121.AA2092761398@mailman.lcls.org> Block the use of Real Player :) On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video application (in my opinion). Real Player has a tendency to take over a machine and change all sorts of settings (without asking of couse) you do not want it to. Make sure that Fortres does not allow write access to "c:\windows\desktop" and also you can put real player in the list of programs they are not allowed to use. -Chris D ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Catherine Buck Morgan Reply-To: catherine@leo.scsl.state.sc.us Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:49:54 -0700 (PDT) >Our public machines (Win95) are locked down with Fortres, and there are >no saves to anything but the A: drive. However, whenever a patron >accesses a file with RealPlayer, an icon gets placed on the desktop, >which drives some of our ref lib nuts (they believe the patron has >gotten through security), and they "hassle" the IT people to move it >immediately. (It's been one of those days--, folks; I believe it's >called Monday-- hey look, it's Tuesday.) The latest culprit is an >Islam.wav file. > >For some reason, this icon doesn't disappear when we reboot. We have to >disable Fortres, delete the icon, and re-enable the security. I've >checked the Fortres settings, and they appear secure. Any ideas? Thanks. > >-- >Catherine Buck Morgan >Automation Librarian >South Carolina State Library >EMAIL: catherine@leo.scsl.state.sc.us >Phone: 803.734.8651 Fax 803.734.4757 >Home page: http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/ >Web catalog: http://www.state.sc.us/scsl/scslweb/welcome.html > >The opinions stated herein are not necessarily those of SCSL. > From pecautm at missouri.edu Tue May 8 13:18:36 2001 From: pecautm at missouri.edu (Mark Pecaut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files In-Reply-To: <200105081121.AA2092761398@mailman.lcls.org>; from chrisd@lcls.org on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500 References: <200105081121.AA2092761398@mailman.lcls.org> Message-ID: <20010508121836.A11809@missouri.edu> On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: > > Block the use of Real Player :) > On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your > security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security programs, or are there other issues involved? Any thoughts? -Mark From chrisd at lcls.org Tue May 8 13:34:33 2001 From: chrisd at lcls.org (Chris Deweese) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files Message-ID: <200105081234.AA410779918@mailman.lcls.org> There are restore programs and devices. Our system started using the Centurion Guard. It is a hardware device that is plugged onto a floppy cable. The centurion uses a partition on the hard drive to save any changes/files the user creates. Then once the machine is rebooted the changes and files are gone. Pretty nice, but not cheap. Fortres sells some software that does the same thing. I have not tried the software but I was the "tester" here for the Centurion. It blocked a format c: and Fdisk. Pretty impressive. Chris D ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Mark Pecaut Reply-To: pecautm@missouri.edu Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT) >On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: >> >> Block the use of Real Player :) >> On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your >> security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video > >Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and >just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some >like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? > >If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local >network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security >programs, or are there other issues involved? > >Any thoughts? > >-Mark > From FarissS at mail.nlm.nih.gov Tue May 8 13:34:49 2001 From: FarissS at mail.nlm.nih.gov (Susan Fariss) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files Message-ID: There is a program called Ghost that allows you to create a ghost image of your hard drive for a quick restore later. I've known several libraries doing this and it seems to work wonders. This with the security options in NT would probably do the trick. Susan Fariss >>> Mark Pecaut 05/08/01 01:20PM >>> On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: > > Block the use of Real Player :) > On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your > security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security programs, or are there other issues involved? Any thoughts? -Mark From hgrossma at worldnet.att.net Tue May 8 14:10:44 2001 From: hgrossma at worldnet.att.net (Harris Grossman) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: MBA Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010508140813.00ab3ec0@127.0.0.1> Hello. I have been a lurker for quite some time. A friend of mine is interested in getting an MBA in Library Sciences. He is considering St. Johns Unviersity in New York. How does this school rate or is there a better one to consider in the New York area. Thanks you in advance. Harris M. Grossman Computer Software Trainer/Consultant From LBAyre at galecia.com Tue May 8 14:25:14 2001 From: LBAyre at galecia.com (Lori Bowen Ayre) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files In-Reply-To: <20010508121836.A11809@missouri.edu> Message-ID: You can setup a partition using Parition Magic and copy an image of C partition (and D if you're using a D partition as well) using Drive Image. You can then boot from a set of floppies or a CD and restore the images from disk. Takes 10 minutes or so and I'm not sure how easy it would be automate it, but it could be done fairly easily after someone messes with your computer. Not a solution for everyday though. They sell the two programs bundled as Drive Image Pro (http://www.partitionmagic.com/driveimagepro/). A commercial products that seems to do just what you want is Clean Slate (http://www.fortres.com/products/cleanslate.htm). Here's what their website says about it: "Clean Slate is designed to protect public access computers from malicious or inexperienced users. While not restricting users? activities, Clean Slate will scour drives back to their original state upon reboot. Clean Slate takes only minutes to install and needs no attention, ever, for most installations. Clean Slate restores the computer to its original configuration, no matter what users have done: including erasing files, installing software, downloading viruses and Trojan horses, and altering icons." -Lori Lori Bowen Ayre Library Technology Consultant The Galecia Group LBAyre@galecia.com (707) 763-6869 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Mark Pecaut Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: > > Block the use of Real Player :) > On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your > security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security programs, or are there other issues involved? Any thoughts? -Mark From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Tue May 8 14:26:58 2001 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: .wav files Message-ID: <010508142658.42094@sals.edu> >Block the use of Real Player :) >On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your security. >Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video application (in my >opinion). Real Player has a tendency to take over a machine and change all >sorts of settings (withou t asking of couse) you do not want it to. In the interest of serving the public, I'd prefer to make as much available as possible as long as it does not compromise the security of the computer. RealPlayer has annoying habits, but cannot get around properly-configured security... >Make sure that Fortres does not allow write access to "c:\windows\desktop" ...which would seem to be the right answer. The NT equivalent would be setting "C:\Winnt\Profiles\(name of public account)\Desktop" to read-only, and RealPlayer will not be able to leave any droppings on it. Software which has serious conflicts with other software or demands access to the system directory may be a candidate for banishment, but frequently a little ingenuity - can you say QuickTime and TIFF viewers? - can solve this problem and make our patrons happy. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From mbobkoff at ci.santa-fe.nm.us Tue May 8 14:51:36 2001 From: mbobkoff at ci.santa-fe.nm.us (Miriam Bobkoff) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: Fw: [WEB4LIB] plug-ins for librarians Message-ID: <015901c0d7ef$e87fa950$2e00010a@main-nt-2.ci.santa-fe.nm.us> >I am trying to find out about plug-ins and other browser-extending tools >that librarians may find useful in their jobs. AlternaTIFF for image files from the US Patent & Trademark office. (Do I often need an original patent drawing of a novel design of ice-cream scoop? Well, no. But it's a very tidy little plug-in. And free.) Miriam Bobkoff work: mbobkoff@ci.santa-fe.nm.us Santa Fe Public Library home: mbobkoff@rt66.com [ Santa Fe Poetry Broadside ] [ http://www.rt66.com/~sfpoetry/ ] [ Issue #20, May 2001 ] From nolan at adelphi.edu Tue May 8 14:58:45 2001 From: nolan at adelphi.edu (Kevin Nolan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] MBA Message-ID: I am currently an MLS student in the Library and Information Science program at St. John's. There are several Library/Information Science programs in the New York metro area: St. John's, C.W. Post, Queens College, Pratt, and Rutgers. I don't know much about these other programs - - I'd recommend a Peterson's search. For info on St. John's, I'd recommend that your friend call the Division of Library and Information Science directly at (718) 990-6200, Mon.-Thurs., 8:30am-4:30pm, Fri., 8:30am-3:00pm. Dr. James Benson is the Dean of University Libraries and Director of the program. Dr. Elizabeth Pollicino is Associate Director. I am sure Dr. Benson and Dr. Pollicino would be willing to talk with or meet with your friend. Or feel free to email me off list with any questions. Naturally, all programs have their strengths and their weaknesses. The St. John's program is small in comparison to other library science programs. But the faculty is very good, IMO, and the University is supporting several new initiatives, e.g. a plan to bolster its digital library and related offerings. There are also several faculty members who are prominent in their areas of research - - Dr. Bella Hass Weinberg (indexing, thesauri development) and Dr. Sherry Vellucci (cataloging, metadata) . . . just to name two. >From my experience, SJU-DLIS is an intimate, supportive, friendly atmosphere in which to study and learn. ------------------------ kevin nolan web site editorial director www.adelphi.edu e-mail: nolan@adelphi.edu ------------------------ >>> Harris Grossman - 5/8/01 2:11 PM >>> Hello. I have been a lurker for quite some time. A friend of mine is interested in getting an MBA in Library Sciences. He is considering St. Johns Unviersity in New York. How does this school rate or is there a better one to consider in the New York area. Thanks you in advance. Harris M. Grossman Computer Software Trainer/Consultant From ladyhawk at well.com Tue May 8 15:46:54 2001 From: ladyhawk at well.com (GraceAnne A. DeCandido) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: MLS at St John's University In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010508140813.00ab3ec0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <200105081947.MAA02601@smtp.well.com> My husband and I team-taught a course in preservation at St John's University for more than a decade. (We no longer do). I have taught in other programs, now and then, and lectured in them, and I was always favorably impressed with both the energy of my students and the liveliness of the faculty at St John's. SJU's mission since its founding was educating the immigrant population of New York. It is now building dorms, and so attracts a wider population. But its mission to immigrants is still present, and many of my students fell into that category. It made for a very diverse classroom. Good luck to you and your friend. GraceAnne DeCandido Harris Grossman sent an e-note on 8 May 01, about [WEB4LIB] MBA > Hello. > > I have been a lurker for quite some time. > > A friend of mine is interested in getting an MBA in Library > Sciences. > > He is considering St. Johns Unviersity in New York. > > How does this school rate or is there a better one to > consider in the New York area. > > Thanks you in advance. > > Harris M. Grossman > Computer Software Trainer/Consultant > > GraceAnne A. DeCandido Blue Roses Consulting ~ Writing ~ Editorial ~ Web Content ~ New York City ~ ladyhawk@well.com http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/gadhome.html What's Ladyhawk reading now? http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/books.html Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes, it rains. Crash Davis in Bull Durham From mercury at voicenet.com Tue May 8 16:31:53 2001 From: mercury at voicenet.com (Jeff Papier) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .wav files In-Reply-To: <20010508121836.A11809@missouri.edu> Message-ID: As always, I preach the gospel of Deep Freeze on this one (www.hypertec.com). Thanks to DF, my fellow computer librarian and I can actually do things other than stop security breaches. Rather than trying to keep folks out via lots of tweaking and ad hoc fixes, let 'em in, let 'em muck around, then reboot and watch the changes disappear. 'Tis the essence of satisfaction. On Tue, 8 May 2001, Mark Pecaut wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:01:06PM -0500, Chris Deweese wrote: > > > > Block the use of Real Player :) > > On the grounds that it allows patrons to somewhat circumvent your > > security. Besides that real player is the most annoying audio/video > > Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and > just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some > like to call it) the computer to a pristine state? > > If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local > network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security > programs, or are there other issues involved? > > Any thoughts? > > -Mark > From esoden at sps.edu Wed May 9 04:56:01 2001 From: esoden at sps.edu (Emily A. Soden) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: MBA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010509045601.009ad3d0@sps.edu> ALA has a handy list of all accredited MLS programs in the U.S. at . Then, of course, there's the old standby -- U.S. News -- for ranking info. Emily ____________________________________ Emily A. Soden Circulation Services Librarian Ohrstrom Library, St. Paul's School Concord, NH 03301 603-229-4865 esoden@sps.edu From lilsalem at jasper.uor.edu Tue May 8 17:22:16 2001 From: lilsalem at jasper.uor.edu (salem) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: LACASIS Workshop: Licensing Digital Resources Message-ID: Only 8 more days before the registration deadline! LOS ANGELES CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR INFORMATION SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY Be a Part of It All... "Licensing 101: a Workshop on Licensing Digital Resources" Workshop leaders: Sharon Farb and Barbara Schader The licensing of electronic or digital resources presents new and formidable challenges for those who must negotiate contracts for their library or information center. Ms. Farb's presentation will explore hot topics, challenges, and techniques for licensing electronic resources, with particular emphasis on the legal aspects of contract language and negotiation. Participants are encouraged to bring sample contracts that contain problematic language or clauses for a review and discussion session. Sharon Farb is the Coordinator for Digital Acquisitions for the UCLA Library. She oversees the licensing of digital resources and advises the Library on legal issues including copyright and intellectual property. Barbara Schader is the Head of Collection Development at the UCLA Biomedical Library. Date: Saturday, May 19, 2001 Location: UCLA Young Research Library West Electronic Classroom, 2nd floor Schedule: 9:00 am - 9:30 am Registration/continental breakfast 9:30 am - 12:30 pm Workshop Workshop Cost: ASIS Members $35.00 Non-Members $45.00 Students $35.00 RSVP BY: May 15, 2001 Registration limited, please reserve early Directions to the Young (formerly University) Research Library, UCLA: The Research Library is located at the north end of the UCLA Campus. From the 405 freeway take the Sunset Blvd. exit and go east. Turn right on Westwood Plaza into the campus. Stop at the parking and information kiosk and tell the parking attendant that you are attending the LACASIS workshop in the Young Research Library. You can purchase a one-day parking permit for $6.00 and will be given parking directions and directions to the Library. For more complete directions to UCLA, consult: http://www.transportation.ucla.edu/parking/spdirect.htm If you have registration questions, please contact Amy Wallace by email at amy.wallace@rocky.claremont.edu or by phone at (909) 607-7957. Reservations: Send this form and payment to: Amy Wallace Honnold Mudd Library 800 N. Dartmouth Claremont, CA 91711 -or- Register Online: http://www.lacasis.org ========================================================================= Make check payable to: LACASIS NAME/AFFILIATION _________________________________________________________ ADDRESS: _________________________________________________________________ DAYTIME PHONE:____________________ EMAIL ADDRESS: ________________________ LACASIS MEMBER: Y N STUDENT: Y N AMOUNT ENCLOSED: ___________ ========================================================================= From elutzow at csuniv.edu Tue May 8 18:48:51 2001 From: elutzow at csuniv.edu (Eileen Lutzow) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: .wav files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200105082144.RAA72465@bucky.csuniv.edu> Although the general labs on campus have started using Clean Slate (and are very happy with it), the library has chosen to stick with Fortres/Cooler instead. The philosophy in the campus labs is to let students experiment with the computers freely "so they can learn," which includes installing software, looking at the registry, and changing browser options/preferences. Here in the library, we prefer to retain more control over the look and feel of the browser every time someone sits down at the PC. That would happen if we rebooted with Clean Slate, but we don't want to have to reboot every 10-30 minutes between students, or after every student who decides to switch the home page to a porn site and then leaves it open for the next person who wanders up to that PC and then complains loudly to the closest library staffer and/or University President. With the librarians right there in the building and helping students use the PCs, there is an implied endorsement of the default home page on any PC in the library, which is not as true of the PCs in the campus labs since the labs often don't even have a student worker available for questions or problems. Also, since the library is open to the general public (including high school and younger students), we want to make sure that the home page stays put to the library's home page every single time. We also limit usage of the library PCs to Web browsing, catalog access, and (in our Technology Center only) Microsoft Office, so they shouldn't be doing anything, like installing software, which would be bothered by the security software. So the library will be sticking with Fortres/Cooler for the time being even though the general labs use Clean Slate. Eileen Lutzow Charleston Southern University Library On 8 May 01, at 13:35, Jeff Papier wrote: > > Has anyone decided to stop using these strange security programs and > > just come up with a good method for restoring (re-imaging, as some like > > to call it) the computer to a pristine state? > > > > If there was a way to restore a windows installation over the local > > network with just a floppy disk, would people stop using these security > > programs, or are there other issues involved? From rubinir at pobox.upenn.edu Tue May 8 23:16:07 2001 From: rubinir at pobox.upenn.edu (Illene Rubin) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:32 2005 Subject: Internet 5.5 Message-ID: <200105090316.f493G7i05202@pobox.upenn.edu> I have a question that I think was addressed a while back but I can't recall the answer. When we try hotmail and several other websites on our public workstations (using IE 5.5) we get a page that says our website cannot be displayed because it requires 128-bit connection security -- I've tried loading the Microsoft High Encryption Pack but it doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Illene Rubin Gloucester City Library -- From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu May 10 08:16:36 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] disabling windows scripting host References: <3AF9D393.BEFB2032@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Message-ID: <3AFA86A4.B96386DD@tln.lib.mi.us> I removed the Windows Scripting Host from all of our staff and public Windows98 machines back when it was first announced that viruses were using it to propogate themselves. I've also made sure to remove it when setting up new machines. In all that time, I've never had a situation where an application wouldn't function properly because of its absence. However, I have seen several instances where a virus slipped by our anti-virus software but wasn't able to run because WSH was removed. I think most libraries can do without WSH. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Tom Edelblute wrote: > http://www.sophos.com/support/faqs/wsh.html > http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-04.html > > The above links were forwarded to me as an anti-virus measure. I > thought it looked good enough to share. However, if you disable the > Windows Scripting Host, applications that rely on this will not work. > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Tom Edelblute > Public Access Systems Coordinator > Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 > 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 > Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Thu May 10 10:15:50 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: Nicholas Baker in the Chronicle of Higher Education Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B473@mail1.morrisville.edu> Here is the blurb from the Daily Chronicle: IN HIS LATEST BOOK, the author Nicholson Baker cautions libraries against moving forward too quickly with information technologies that could lead to the destruction of printed library materials. --> SEE http://chronicle.com/free/2001/05/2001051003t.htm While I haven't read his book, the interview in the Chronicle shows a well thought out argument for keeping the physical material after it has been digitized. I don't find much to argue with him on. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV Thu May 10 11:51:50 2001 From: GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV (Masters, Gary E) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Nicholas Baker in the Chronicle of Higher Education Message-ID: I hate to toss the paper, but sooner or later it can be a hazard. Does anyone know where we can get the money to save paper? Personally, I have sf magazines from the 50's and they are really yellow to brown. On the other hand, there are lots of horror stores about microforms that can not be read or have mold on them or for some reason don't work right. I know of several scanning projects that were not that great - some of the ProQuest stuff is average at best. What should we do? Gary Masters -----Original Message----- From: Drew, Bill [SMTP:drewwe@MORRISVILLE.EDU] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Nicholas Baker in the Chronicle of Higher Education Here is the blurb from the Daily Chronicle: IN HIS LATEST BOOK, the author Nicholson Baker cautions libraries against moving forward too quickly with information technologies that could lead to the destruction of printed library materials. --> SEE http://chronicle.com/free/2001/05/2001051003t.htm While I haven't read his book, the interview in the Chronicle shows a well thought out argument for keeping the physical material after it has been digitized. I don't find much to argue with him on. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu May 10 12:41:55 2001 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: Email support tracking package Message-ID: <200105101241.AA23593298@ansernet.rcls.org> After trialing an unrelated product from HumankindSystems, they sent me an announcement about their new AnswerTrack product: http://www.humankindsystems.com/answertrack/ ...which though designed for corporate customer support departments, looks like it has many features that would benefit email reference services. -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz@rcls.org Author, KidsClick! Web Searching Skills Guide, http://www.neal-schuman.com/db/3/173.html -- From Dietmar.Bussmann at mpiv-hd.mpg.de Thu May 10 13:41:29 2001 From: Dietmar.Bussmann at mpiv-hd.mpg.de (Dietmar Bussmann) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: OPAC Design Question Message-ID: <3AFAD2C9.C0FEDFA7@mpiv-hd.mpg.de> Hi all, see an upcoming new library system in our institute we are discussing the use of server based technology ( like Cold Fusion as we have at the moment ) or use the standard possibilities of the new ALEPH - System with Javascript, CSS and Frames.....and no opportunities for users with old browsers and low speed connections. What is your practice and experience here ? Thanks for ideas and comments. Dietmar -- Dietmar Bussmann, Max-Planck-Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Law ( http://www.virtual-institute.de ) Im Neuenheimer Feld 535 ; D-69120 Heidelberg Phone: +49-(0)6221-482273 ; Fax: +49-(0)6221-482278 From dan at riverofdata.com Thu May 10 13:45:42 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: Setting default telnet client in IE5.5 Message-ID: <211982100.20010510114542@riverofdata.com> In older versions of IE there was a setting for your choice of default telnet client. That doesn't seem to exist in IE5.5. How can we set this? Registry hacks acceptable, but not preferred. dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From bennetttm at appstate.edu Thu May 10 09:49:23 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape In-Reply-To: <000f01c0d8ba$5db47c80$0c02010a@bluffton.edu> Message-ID: For regular info and examples of JavaScript you may want to subscribe to the enewsletter form ITWorld - JAVASCRIPT --- May 01, 2001 Published by ITworld.com -- changing the way you view IT http://www.itworld.com/newsletters SUBSCRIBE/UNSUBSCRIBE Please click on the link below to modify your subscription, unsubscribe, or change your email address: http://itw.itworld.com/Change-Remove/a14724a76096245a12 Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Carrie Phillips Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] layers in Javascript with IE and Netscape Does anyone have a tried-and-true website (or book) reference for working with JavaScript? I'm a JS rookie, and I've adapted some code that uses layers to create an LC call number sorting activity . It works fine in Netscape 4.76, but IE 5 gives me some errors. I think I can troubleshoot it, but I just need some help finding some sources to look at. Example snippets of code using layers that are known to work in IE would be a big help, if anyone has any examples! Thanks! -- Carrie Phillips Computer Technician/Reference & ILL Assistant/O-PCIRC Musselman Library Bluffton College - BLC 280 W. College Ave., Ste. 4 Bluffton, OH 45817 Ph. 419.358.3275 Fx. 419.358.3384 phillipsc@bluffton.edu From edwardra at mail.nsuok.edu Thu May 10 14:17:32 2001 From: edwardra at mail.nsuok.edu (Rich Edwards) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: EZProxy? References: <200105101241.AA23593298@ansernet.rcls.org> Message-ID: <3AFADB37.AB01DF44@cherokee.nsuok.edu> We are considering EZProxy to help us connect authenticated off-campus users to our subscription databases. Does anyone with experience with this product have any comments? Pro or con or in general? For those not familiar with EZProxy, more information is available on their web site at http://www.usefulutilities.com/ joyfully, Rich Edwards Systems/Reference Librarian Northeastern State University Tahlequah, OK edwardra@nsuok.edu "You will be surprised to find how much that has seemed hopelessly disagreeable possesses either an instructive or an amusing side." The Heart of the New Thought (1902) by Ella Wheeler Wilcox. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From ctuckerr at stmarys-ca.edu Thu May 10 14:54:50 2001 From: ctuckerr at stmarys-ca.edu (Caleb Tucker-Raymond) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Nicholas Baker in the Chronicle of Higher Education In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B473@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 May 2001, Drew, Bill wrote: > Here is the blurb from the Daily Chronicle: > > IN HIS LATEST BOOK, the author Nicholson Baker cautions > libraries against moving forward too quickly with information > technologies that could lead to the destruction of printed > library materials. > --> SEE http://chronicle.com/free/2001/05/2001051003t.htm > > > While I haven't read his book, the interview in the Chronicle shows a well > thought out argument for keeping the physical material after it has been > digitized. I don't find much to argue with him on. Baker's statements like "The job of the research library is to keep the stuff that people read" and the idea that libraries throw out newspapers because microfilm is "exciting and new" are based on misconceptions, if not flat out wrong. Maybe some good will come out of it, either in clearing up these and similar misconceptions or in rallying support for funding of "newspaper wings" for every library in the country, nay, world. ctr elec. sys. libn. st. marys col. of ca. > ___________________ > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu > BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ > Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ > Have Laptop -- Will Travel. > "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy > test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 > From bennetttm at appstate.edu Thu May 10 11:03:04 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: Control Printing for MS Windows Message-ID: I know there has been talk in the past about controlling printing in public areas and Pharos seems to be the popular solution at a high cost. This appears to be a viable alternative I just received in a W2K enewsletter. There is an eval version available for download at the link below. minimum requirements is a Pentium 166, 8MB ram, 5 MB HD install, and 32MB HD operating. from Sunbelt W2Knews? Electronic Newsletter Over 600,000 Readers! Thu, May 10, 2001 (Vol. 6, #33 -- Issue #268) http://www.w2knews.com/ ------------- Schools On NT/W2K Recouping Millions On Student Printing Costs NT is worldwide a very popular platform in both middle schools and higher education. Many are upgrading or switching to Windows 2000. In every instance, as these platforms have no functionality to adequately control how much users can print, student printing is out of control knocking school budgets askew with paper and toner costs. ... A Network Administrator at a California University recently reported that the cost of student printing in toner and paper alone was breaking the budget ever since they had gone to NT. The only software package he could find that could limit student printing had taken him two months to set up and cost $18,000 and it still did not work. He had recently found Print Manger Plus and was completely thrilled that it worked at once upon installation and completely solved his problem. Print Manager Plus paid for itself in less than a week in saved toner and paper cost. It had cost $425.00 compared to an $18,000 package that never worked. Print Manager Plus is probably the most vital third party tool for any school that has gone NT or to Windows 2000. That tool alone can pay for the cost of not only itself but also the cost of the entire Microsoft software migration where there are lots of students. If your students or employees binge on printing, check: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=668 --------------- Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From pecautm at missouri.edu Thu May 10 15:24:28 2001 From: pecautm at missouri.edu (Mark Pecaut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] EZProxy? In-Reply-To: <3AFADB37.AB01DF44@cherokee.nsuok.edu>; from edwardra@mail.nsuok.edu on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:24:29AM -0700 References: <3AFADB37.AB01DF44@cherokee.nsuok.edu> Message-ID: <20010510142427.A19030@missouri.edu> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:24:29AM -0700, Rich Edwards wrote: > We are considering EZProxy to help us connect authenticated > off-campus users to our subscription databases. > > Does anyone with experience with this product have any comments? > Pro or con or in general? >From a users's perspective, nothing compares with ezproxy. They don't have to configure their browsers, they don't even have to know they are using it, except that they had to put in their password to get access. See http://web.missouri.edu/~ellisref/help/proxy.shtml for more information. Ezproxy is very easy for them. Plus you can authenticate users so many ways. Remote access has gotten so much better here after we started using ezproxy. I highly recommend it. -Mark > > For those not familiar with EZProxy, more information is available on their web site at http://www.usefulutilities.com/ > > joyfully, > > Rich Edwards > Systems/Reference Librarian > Northeastern State University > Tahlequah, OK > edwardra@nsuok.edu > > "You will be surprised to find how much that has seemed hopelessly disagreeable possesses either an instructive or an amusing > side." The Heart of the New Thought (1902) by Ella Wheeler Wilcox. > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* From dcruse at adrian.edu Thu May 10 15:27:06 2001 From: dcruse at adrian.edu (David Cruse) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Setting default telnet client in IE5.5 References: <211982100.20010510114542@riverofdata.com> Message-ID: <055d01c0d987$32f36c40$8b516cc6@adrian.edu> I set the default telnet client by opening "my computer" then choosing "view" and "file types". Scroll down to "URL: Telnet Protocol". Highlight, then click "edit" then "open" under actions, then "edit" again. There you should be able to browse to the .exe you wish to use for your telnet client. Seems to be working for me with WIN95 / IE5.5 Dave Cruse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Setting default telnet client in IE5.5 > In older versions of IE there was a setting for your choice of default > telnet client. That doesn't seem to exist in IE5.5. How can we set > this? Registry hacks acceptable, but not preferred. > > dan > > > -- > Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com > 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA > www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com > > From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Thu May 10 15:39:40 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: EZProxy? Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B47E@mail1.morrisville.edu> The entire State University of New York has a state wide license for it. Its a "no brainer". Buy it!! From bernies at uillinois.edu Thu May 10 15:53:53 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: The Future of Digital Reference Services?? Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB042325BE@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> I've been in the process of updating my digital reference services bibliography and, as I go through it, I notice some general patterns in papers written about various technologies used to support digital reference services. The first widespread use of technology in support of digital reference services seems to be e-mail. Howard and Jankowski wrote about e-mail reference in the January 1986 issue of the Bulletin of the Medical Library Association. Bristow described e-mail reference services at Indiana University in the November 1992 issue of College and Research Libraries News. Then a flurry of articles began in the mid 1990s, continuing until the present day. A number of articles on the use of MUDs and MOOs for reference services appeared in the mid 1990s, at about the same time that the interest in e-mail reference began in earnest. The interest in MUD/MOO technology tapered off after the closing of the Internet Public Library's pilot project, whcih met with limited success. Interest in the use of desktop videoconferencing also peaked in the mid 1990s, with a writeup in the Chronicle of Higher Education in the summer of 1996, and two papers presented at the 1997 ACRL conference. These two papers discussed pilot projects conducted at the University of Michigan, and at the University of California-Irvine. These two projects also met with limited success, and video reference faded from the public consciousness. While the experiments with MUDs and MOOs and videoconferencing were going on, e-mail reference services became more and more common, to the point where thousands of libraries offer such services today. Within the past year or two, chat-based technologies for reference services have replaced e-mail reference services in popularity, if not in actual use. Chat services started with the use of simple technologies such as AOL Instant Messenger. As e-commerce expanded, Web-based customer call center software appeared, and was adapted for use in digital reference services. These services were based on chat, but also offered such functionalities as co-browsing and pushing Web pages to the user. While live, interactive chat-based services have drawn some attention away from more prosaic services such as e-mail reference, I can't help but wonder what might be waiting on the horizon to steal the thunder away from chat-based services? What's the next technology that will impact digital reference services? Will videoconferencing make a comeback as cameras become more commonplace? Will voice-over-IP applications lessen the need for chat sessions in Web call center software as microphones become more common as computer peripherals? At least one call center software vendor (Convey Systems) already offers the options of interactive voice and video, in addition to chat. Or will digital reference services become more automated? The OPAL Project at the UK's Open University is described as "an eighteen month research project which is exploring the development of a fully automated online 24/7 reference service for students." Part of the project will attempt to use agent-based architecture to create a generic "artificial librarian", capable of answering complex questions about library resources. (See http://oulib1.open.ac.uk/wh/research/opal/intro.html). Or will e-mail continue to be the default medium for digital reference services as we experiment with other technologies that meet with "limited success"? I am interested in hearing what others might think about the future of digital reference services. Thanks! Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From george at library.caltech.edu Thu May 10 16:00:31 2001 From: george at library.caltech.edu (George Porter) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: Questia taking it on the chin Message-ID: <0C2C50C9B668D311878100A0C9EA36764501E9@dungeon.library.caltech.edu> FYI -- a free article appears in today's Chronicle of Higher Education , headlined "Digital-Library Company Lays Off Half Its Staff and Slows Conversion Effort." George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 From edwardra at mail.nsuok.edu Thu May 10 16:14:31 2001 From: edwardra at mail.nsuok.edu (Rich Edwards) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: EZProxy? In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B47E@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for the comments about EZProxy. They were unanimously positive. joyfully, Rich Edwards Systems/Reference Librarian Northeastern State University Tahlequah, OK edwardra@nsuok.edu From mjordan at sfu.ca Thu May 10 18:35:32 2001 From: mjordan at sfu.ca (Mark Jordan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: EZProxy Message-ID: Hi, We use EZProxy and I agree with Mark Pecaut -- it's really nice from the user's perspective. However, since every resource you are authenticating has to be entered into the ezproxy.cfg configuration file, you can spend a lot of time maintaining it. Mark Mark Jordan Librarian / Analyst, Systems Division W.A.C. Bennett Library, Simon Fraser University Burnaby, British Columbia, V5A 1S6, Canada Phone (604) 291 5753 / Fax (604) 291 3023 mjordan@sfu.ca / http://www.sfu.ca/~mjordan/ From raywood at magma.ca Thu May 10 21:19:59 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] EZProxy In-Reply-To: ; from mjordan@sfu.ca on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 03:35:47PM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010510201959.A280@magma.ca> I missed the 'context' of the original post, so this suggestion may or may not be applicable to your circumstances. Having said that you may be interested in an out-of-the-box, turnkey solution that runs on Linux called esmith. Very well done and extremely user-friendly. I've had non-geeks claim they had it up and running in 15 minutes. Linux for the New Millenium? :) The cost is free (like most decent Linux software), and there is an option for fee-based support. (Canadian talent too :) See http://www.esmith.com/ for more info. Hope that helps, Raymond On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 03:35:47PM -0700, Mark Jordan wrote: > Hi, > > We use EZProxy and I agree with Mark Pecaut -- it's really nice from the > user's perspective. However, since every resource you are authenticating > has to be entered into the ezproxy.cfg configuration file, you can spend a > lot of time maintaining it. > > Mark > > > Mark Jordan > Librarian / Analyst, Systems Division > W.A.C. Bennett Library, Simon Fraser University > Burnaby, British Columbia, V5A 1S6, Canada > Phone (604) 291 5753 / Fax (604) 291 3023 > mjordan@sfu.ca / http://www.sfu.ca/~mjordan/ > > > > > From coffmanfyi at earthlink.net Mon May 14 07:54:51 2001 From: coffmanfyi at earthlink.net (Stephen Coffman) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: Live from New York Global Web Broadcast featuring Steve Arnold, Content Managment ,Virtual Reference and more Message-ID: <384989447.989841291679.JavaMail.root@web313-wrb> Live From New York -- Global Broadcast on Content Management of Information Professionals -- live, free and online next week Wednesday, May 16, 2:30-3 EST To all librarians and information professionals: How would you like to go to New York to discuss one of our key challenges these days, content management, with your peers from around the world, or find out more about the new virtual reference technologies and how libraries are using them? Well here's your chance, and you don't even have to leave the comfort of your own home or office. Join content management expert, Steve Arnold, President, Arnold Information Technologies and others for this exciting event. InfoToday 2001 Conference and LSSI's Virtual Reference Services are co-sponsoring an interactive online global broadcast that will take place live from the exhibit floor of InfoToday 2001at the New York Hilton & Towers, and throughout the rest of the world, live on the Web using LSSI's new Virtual Reference technology. We think programs like these provide an unparalleled opportunity to meet and discuss common issues with your peers from around the world. In addition online interactive programs make it possible for librarians who would not otherwise be able to travel to conferences because of cost, physical disability, or other limitation to participate almost as if they were there. To attend online, come to www.lssi.com/virtual/livefromnewyork and click on join a session. You'll be able to see Steve Arnold's slide presentation and converse with him and members of the audience using chat. To attend in person, come to the National Online Meeting in New York, and join us on the Exhibit Floor. The choice is yours, so whether you join us live in New York ... or live online, we are looking forward to meeting you next week. Sincerely, Jane Dysart Program Chair, KnowledgeNets 2001 Steve Coffman LSSI From BSmith at imls.gov Mon May 14 08:52:45 2001 From: BSmith at imls.gov (Smith, Barbara) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: Web-based training on library skills Message-ID: <39513C7C5559D111AC7200600896B46803EE4AAB@MAIL> I'm gathering information about Web-based training on library skills for staff development in public, academic and special libraries. A number of library schools offer Web-based and other e-learning courses that lead to degrees. But what about training that supports the practical work in libraries, for all levels of staff? Examples might include a shelving tutorial for pages; circulation system basics; reference desk skills; customer service skills. Are you aware of training or people doing work in these areas? Do you know of any consultants (individuals or firms) that are developing coursware for libraries? Do you know an any Web-based library learning communities? I'll be glad to summarize information for the list. Barbara Smith ____________________________________ Barbara G. Smith, Technology Officer Institute of Museum and Library Services 1100 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Room 802 Washington, DC 20506 voice: 202/606-5254 fax: 202/606-1077 e-mail: bsmith@imls.gov on the Web: www.imls.gov From levinej at sls.lib.il.us Mon May 14 09:22:13 2001 From: levinej at sls.lib.il.us (Jenny Levine) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web-based training on library skills References: <39513C7C5559D111AC7200600896B46803EE4AAB@MAIL> Message-ID: <3AFFDC05.DF7A36AC@sls.lib.il.us> "Smith, Barbara" wrote: > I'm gathering information about Web-based training on library skills for > staff development in public, academic and special libraries. A number of > library schools offer Web-based and other e-learning courses that lead to > degrees. But what about training that supports the practical work in > libraries, for all levels of staff? Examples might include a shelving > tutorial for pages; circulation system basics; reference desk skills; > customer service skills. Although we can't show you anything tangible at the moment, this is one of the goals of the "LibraryU" project in Illinois. The Suburban Library System (where I work) applied for a LSTA grant to collaborate with three other regional Library Systems in the State to create a central repository of Web-based tutorials written by librarians. The two-tiered approach will target Joe Q. Public *and* librarians with WebCT modules. For example, the Illinois State Library provides access to some FirstSearch databases for all residents, so System staff are designing a tutorial that can be used statewide to teach the public how to access and use these resources. Other staff at multi-type libraries are creating modules to teach fellow librarians how to market their libraries and how to serve & partner with their business community. These tutorials (plus 8-10 others) are in the works now, and our target date to officially launch LibraryU is the week of Labor Day. We included a line item for PR and we are planning lots of trade advertising, radio spots, giveaways, etc., so hopefully you'll hear a lot about this project in September. For phase two, we are opening up participation beyond the original dozen libraries in order to expand our offerings. We are very open to partnerships, as we would like to reduce re-invention of the wheel everywhere. Some of the content is rather specific (training for specific OPACs), but other modules have a much broader base (searching for government documents online). Eventually you'll be able to find us at http://www.LibraryU.org/, although there's just a teaser page there now. We'd also be interested in hearing about any similar projects (we know of a few that are aimed more at the public), in part because we'd like to see a community grow up around this concept in order to exchange ideas and to further collaboration. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny Levine 125 Tower Drive Internet Development Specialist Burr Ridge, IL 60521 Suburban Library System +1 (630) 734 5141 http://www.sls.lib.il.us/ levinej@sls.lib.il.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From eckleyt at mville.edu Mon May 14 12:05:27 2001 From: eckleyt at mville.edu (Tami-Jo M. Eckley) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: library - 0 / college - 1 Message-ID: <200105141205.AA73335324@mail.mville.edu> Hi folks, I am sending an you all an update to my long ago problem of having to incorporate a "splash page." We have been living with the splash page and the inevitable has just happened. We have been told that we must conform to the corporate image (who are we kidding, here!) and use the college banner on all of our pages. At least this time our newly hired college webmaster is willing to compromise with me on the design of the banner! Unfortunately, even with our using the banner - they still want that splash page! Uggh. And on top of that - I had just created a newly designed home image which everyone so far loved (although I do need to create a text only link as well). Oh well, I can use it on my resume... http://www.mville.edu/library/newsite.htm -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library Tel:(914) 323-5274 Fax:(914) 694-8139 ______________________________________ -- From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Mon May 14 12:54:30 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: Mouse Platform? References: <3AFFDC05.DF7A36AC@sls.lib.il.us> Message-ID: <3B000DC6.4C821855@tln.lib.mi.us> We are migrating over to a web-based OPAC at our library. Our mice, which has been previously hidden away, are coming out for our patrons to use. The challenge I have is that our OPAC cabinets were not designed for both keyboard and mouse. Although I can fit a mouse next to the keyboard, it is a tight fit and doesn't allow a lot of maneuvering that some patrons need for moving the mouse around. We had previously experimented with a keyboard with a trackball mouse incorporated into the "keypad" portion of the keyboard but that didn't work very well. What I am looking for is a small platform that would ride over the "keypad" portion of the keyboard and would allow some extra room to allow the mouse to be maneuvered. I recall seeing this at a library that had the same space limitations with their OPACs and it seemed like a creative solution to a space-needs problem. The only problem is that I can't find anything like this anywhere and I can't recall where I saw this. I looked through a number of catalogs without success. I did see several "extensions" but I'm trying to avoid something pricey that needs to be installed on the cabinents. Before I call up the local high school and see if they can whip me out a dozen from the plastics section of the shop class, does anyone have any suggestions/sources/etc. for this product? Thank you, Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From eckleyt at mville.edu Mon May 14 13:45:49 2001 From: eckleyt at mville.edu (Tami-Jo M. Eckley) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: academic web administration Message-ID: <200105141345.AA48890344@mail.mville.edu> Hi Again, Is there any professional publication on the importance of the library's web presence. My main gripe in all of this "splash page" and college banner issue, is that they are forcing the library into being just a normal "department" of the college instead of the entity that it is. However, I have a heck of time getting administration to understand this - and I have really given up at this point but I did a quick search on the ALA website and other professional sites but have not yet found anything on the advocacy of the library's web presence. Anyone know of something that might be useful? Thanks. -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library Tel:(914) 323-5274 Fax:(914) 694-8139 ______________________________________ -- From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Mon May 14 14:09:15 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] academic web administration Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B48C@mail1.morrisville.edu> You need to ask if this battle is really worth fighting. What difference will it make to your users? Will it be more difficult for your users to reach you? I honestly don't think ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 its worth the effort and emotional stress. From jahb at lehigh.edu Mon May 14 14:15:13 2001 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B48C@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <3B0020B1.5EDA97FE@lehigh.edu> > You need to ask if this battle is really worth fighting. What difference > will it make to your users? Will it be more difficult for your users to > reach you? In cases like this, where multiple levels have to be traversed to get to the library, most times I've seen that it does make it much more difficult for users to reach you. One of the things we end up doing at the Help Desk is showing people how to get to the library page from the main university page. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From DobbsA at apsu.edu Mon May 14 14:31:06 2001 From: DobbsA at apsu.edu (Dobbs, Aaron) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE91E5F3@exchange.apsu.edu> We (in the library) emphasize our url & gloss over the campus www page (which is mostly geared to prospective & new students), it helps that the web server name is intuitive (library.apsu.edu) -Aaron :-)' "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." - Alexander Hamilton "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." - George W. Bush, Reuters, May 5, 2000 -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Heise [mailto:jahb@lehigh.edu] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration > You need to ask if this battle is really worth fighting. What difference > will it make to your users? Will it be more difficult for your users to > reach you? In cases like this, where multiple levels have to be traversed to get to the library, most times I've seen that it does make it much more difficult for users to reach you. One of the things we end up doing at the Help Desk is showing people how to get to the library page from the main university page. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From sgarwood at camden.lib.nj.us Mon May 14 14:27:45 2001 From: sgarwood at camden.lib.nj.us (Garwood, Steve) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration Message-ID: Ok here's my inside advice on this. I used to be of the administrators of the Rutgers University website and we decided early on not to put the library link on the main page, but rather put it on most of the secondary pages as a link...why is the link actually on the main page now? Because we got too many damn email messages asking how to get to the library page. Ergo, let the powers that be not list you, then make up a bunch of free accounts on Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. and send message after message about how to get to the library page...I can practically guarantee you a link soon thereafter. Yours in manipulation, :-) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Heise [mailto:jahb@lehigh.edu] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration > You need to ask if this battle is really worth fighting. What difference > will it make to your users? Will it be more difficult for your users to > reach you? In cases like this, where multiple levels have to be traversed to get to the library, most times I've seen that it does make it much more difficult for users to reach you. One of the things we end up doing at the Help Desk is showing people how to get to the library page from the main university page. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From CHHammer at olivet.edu Mon May 14 14:50:39 2001 From: CHHammer at olivet.edu (Craighton Hippenhammer) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration Message-ID: There are two problems here. First, which is my pet peeve, are institution web pages that have no obvious link to the library. This very much affects access to the library. The second, library addresses that are uncessarily long, is not as bad as the first but still makes it difficult to remember the library URL. We used to be http://www.olivet.edu/Departments/Library (yes, capital D and L) and now we are http://library.olivet.edu How much nicer and easier to get right, correct? I'm making a little progress on the other issue: the institution home page has a direct link; on the intranet home page, we're two clicks away (they want that page small enough to have no scroll bar). In our case it wasn't administrators making the decision; it was a techie. Maybe get to know your campus webmaster really, really well? Craighton Hippenhammer Information Technology Librarian Olivet Nazarene University chhammer@olivet.edu >>> Jennifer Heise 05/14/01 01:16PM >>> > You need to ask if this battle is really worth fighting. What difference > will it make to your users? Will it be more difficult for your users to > reach you? In cases like this, where multiple levels have to be traversed to get to the library, most times I've seen that it does make it much more difficult for users to reach you. One of the things we end up doing at the Help Desk is showing people how to get to the library page from the main university page. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard >>>>>>> Is there any professional publication on the importance of the library's web presence. My main gripe in all of this "splash page" and college banner issue, is that they are forcing the library into being just a normal "department" of the college instead of the entity that it is. However, I have a heck of time getting administration to understand this - and I have really given up at this point but I did a quick search on the ALA website and other professional sites but have not yet found anything on the advocacy of the library's web presence. Anyone know of something that might be useful? Thanks. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From bishopk at rpi.edu Mon May 14 14:58:17 2001 From: bishopk at rpi.edu (Kevin W. Bishop) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010514145354.01d5b120@mail.rpi.edu> Tami, We too were able to lobby successfully for a direct link to our libraries from the home page by showing that users consistently bemoaned the lack of a link from our (external) home page. You might also look at "peer institutions" to see what they're doing ... I hope you find that the majority of them allow users to go directly to your library's web site from the college's home page. Good luck! -kb At 11:36 AM 5/14/01 -0700, Garwood, Steve wrote: >Ok here's my inside advice on this. > >I used to be of the administrators of the Rutgers University website and we >decided early on not to put the library link on the main page, but rather >put it on most of the secondary pages as a link...why is the link actually >on the main page now? Because we got too many damn email messages asking how >to get to the library page. > >Ergo, let the powers that be not list you, then make up a bunch of free >accounts on Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. and send message after message about how to >get to the library page...I can practically guarantee you a link soon >thereafter. > >Yours in manipulation, :-) > >Steve > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jennifer Heise [mailto:jahb@lehigh.edu] >Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:16 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration > > > > You need to ask if this battle is really worth fighting. What difference > > will it make to your users? Will it be more difficult for your users to > > reach you? > >In cases like this, where multiple levels have to be traversed to get to >the library, most times I've seen that it does make it much more >difficult for users to reach you. > >One of the things we end up doing at the Help Desk is showing people how >to get to the library page from the main university page. >-- >/ Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information >Resources >\ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 > / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu > >"Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard _________________________________________ Kevin W. Bishop, Campus-Wide Info. Sys. Coord. Libraries and Information Services Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Mon May 14 15:11:59 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Mouse Platform? In-Reply-To: <3B000DC6.4C821855@tln.lib.mi.us> References: <3B000DC6.4C821855@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: >What I am looking for is a small platform that would ride over the >"keypad" portion of the >keyboard and would allow some extra room to allow the mouse to be maneuvered. Alimed (http://www.alimed.com/) markets several devices of this sort: "Mouse Stage", "Mouse Bridge" and "Mouse Caddy," -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Mon May 14 15:58:06 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When a new campus Web page was launched a few years ago, it didn't even mention the Library. We spent the next couple of months arguing for a Library link to be added. Eventually the point that seemed to win the day was that all of our sister campuses provided a link to their libraries on their homepages and therefore we looked like the only campus without a library. We got the link, not in the main menu, but off to the side and below the campus newsletter. -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz From jschult at elmira.edu Mon May 14 16:41:49 2001 From: jschult at elmira.edu (Julia Schult) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] academic web administration References: <200105141345.AA48890344@mail.mville.edu> Message-ID: <013501c0dcb6$4cec7f60$02898c0a@elmira.edu> > Is there any professional publication on the importance of the library's web presence. My main gripe in all of >this "splash page" and college banner issue, is that they are forcing the library into being just a normal >"department" of the college instead of the entity that it is. However, I have a heck of time getting >administration to understand this - and I have really given up at this point but I did a quick search on the ALA >website and other professional sites but have not yet found anything on the advocacy of the library's web >presence. Anyone know of something that might be useful? Thanks. Boy, I know the feeling. Some days I just want to become a College Webmaster just so that I can do it *right*! I'm doing a quick "survey" of the state of 15 small college web pages for other reasons, but one thing I'm checking is how many have links to the Library and to Computer Services from the front page. Out of 15 small colleges and universities, 12 have links to the library on their college home page, 3 do not. Several of them use a nice "Quick Jump" drop-down menu to things people might want to reach on campus, such as the library or IT. This allows them free play on their main categories ("Current Students" "Faculty & Staff" "Prospective Students" "Alumni & Friends" for instance) but still gives access on the front page to the sub-pages most people want, such as the library. ;-) Now, can anyone tell me where a survey of the "state of the current small College web page" could be published? Please? (Tami Jo, if you want the names of the 12 colleges, or the 15, let me know.) ---Julia E. Schult Access/Electronic Services Librarian Elmira College Jschult@elmira.edu From Anna_Wilsey at tamu-commerce.edu Mon May 14 16:50:25 2001 From: Anna_Wilsey at tamu-commerce.edu (Anna Loan-Wilsey) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: weird "submit" button display Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010514155025.008fd480@etsuodt.tamu-commerce.edu> Hi, I looked in the archives and couldn't find anything like what I'm experiencing. I have one PC that displays what looks like a symbolic font (boxes,backslashes,etc) on all of the "gray" submit buttons through my web catalog. It only happens in IE and as far as I can tell, only on the one PC. I have seen the display on other web pages besides our web catalog but not all submit buttons display this way. I have tried everything I can think of including upgrading IE to 5.5 SP1. Anyone have any ideas? I'm stumped! Thanks in advance, Anna Loan-Wilsey Systems Librarian Gee Library Texas A&M University-Commerce Commerce, TX 75428 (903)886-5727 Anna_Wilsey@tamu-commerce.edu From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Mon May 14 16:52:48 2001 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] weird "submit" button display References: <3.0.5.32.20010514155025.008fd480@etsuodt.tamu-commerce.edu> Message-ID: <00e601c0dcb7$d5c04f50$e84ae980@usask.ca> > I looked in the archives and couldn't find anything like what I'm > experiencing. I have one PC that displays what looks like a symbolic font > (boxes,backslashes,etc) on all of the "gray" submit buttons through my web > catalog. It only happens in IE and as far as I can tell, only on the one > PC. I have seen the display on other web pages besides our web catalog but > not all submit buttons display this way. I have tried everything I can > think of including upgrading IE to 5.5 SP1. Anyone have any ideas? I'm > stumped! Sounds like a document encoding problem. In the "View" menu, check "Encoding" to see what character set is being used by the browser. - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Education & Research Technology Services, http://gollum.usask.ca/ Department of Computing Services, University of Saskatchewan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes" From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon May 14 17:19:05 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] weird "submit" button display References: <3.0.5.32.20010514155025.008fd480@etsuodt.tamu-commerce.edu> Message-ID: <001d01c0dcbb$842cd6a0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > > I looked in the archives and couldn't find anything like what I'm > experiencing. I have one PC that displays what looks like a symbolic font > (boxes,backslashes,etc) on all of the "gray" submit buttons through my web > catalog. It only happens in IE and as far as I can tell, only on the one > PC. I have seen the display on other web pages besides our web catalog but > not all submit buttons display this way. I have tried everything I can > think of including upgrading IE to 5.5 SP1. Anyone have any ideas? I'm > stumped! > Here's the culprit: ========= INPUT {font-family: serif; font-weight: bold; font-size: 12pt;} ========= IE 5+ has a problem that affects more than a few installations when it comes to dealing with the CSS generic font families (serif, sans-serif, monospace, cursive, fantasy). I have never seen a good explanation, nor a bug fix. Some, but not all, installations of IE will select, um, questionable choices for these families. I've seen a lot of reports of the browser defaulting to Symbol for one or more of them. I can't offer a fix from the browser end. At the server, change the style property to include a real font name that's likely to be installed, so for example: INPUT {font-family: Utopia, "Times New Roman", sans-serif;} By the way, there are a number of reasons why specifying point sizes for onscreen display can be a bad idea. It's usually better to leave the font size alone or to use percentages (but not lower than about 85% IMO). Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From Anna_Wilsey at tamu-commerce.edu Mon May 14 17:53:52 2001 From: Anna_Wilsey at tamu-commerce.edu (Anna Loan-Wilsey) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: weird "submit" button display Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010514165352.00919c50@etsuodt.tamu-commerce.edu> Thanks to everyone who responded so quickly! It was indeed a problem with the way the style sheet generic font was displaying with my web catalog. At least in my case, it turned out to be vendor specific(DRA). I made the mistake of looking at other libraries' websites that were familiar to me (other DRA sites) and thought it wasn't just me! Oh well, so much for troubleshooting. This list is great! Thanks again, Anna Loan-Wilsey Systems Librarian Gee Library Texas A&M University-Commerce Commerce, TX 75428 (903)886-5727 Anna_Wilsey@tamu-commerce.edu From iachan at sccd.ctc.edu Mon May 14 17:57:06 2001 From: iachan at sccd.ctc.edu (Chan, Ian) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration Message-ID: A thought occurred to me while reading the responses to this topic: How many libraries out there are tracking hits/traffic to their web pages? And has anyone been comparing these numbers as a percentage of overall traffic for their parent institution? Ian Chan Librarian , Seattle Central Community College http://www.sccd.ctc.edu/~cclib/ http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/iachan/ : -----Original Message----- : From: Lee Jaffe [mailto:ldjaffe@cats.ucsc.edu] : Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:33 PM : To: Multiple recipients of list : Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration : : : When a new campus Web page was launched a few years : ago, it didn't even mention the Library. We spent the next : couple of months arguing for a Library link to be added. : Eventually the point that seemed to win the day was that all : of our sister campuses provided a link to their libraries on : their homepages and therefore we looked like the only campus : without a library. We got the link, not in the main menu, but : off to the side and below the campus newsletter. : : -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz : From me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au Mon May 14 18:54:04 2001 From: me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au (Tony Barry) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] library - 0 / college - 1 In-Reply-To: <200105141205.AA73335324@mail.mville.edu> References: <200105141205.AA73335324@mail.mville.edu> Message-ID: At 9:07 AM -0700 14/5/01, Tami-Jo M. Eckley wrote: >of the banner! Unfortunately, even with our using the banner - they >still want that splash page! Put an expired meta header in the splash page to redirect users automatically to the "real" page after a few seconds or Advertise the "real" page in your publicity and leave the splash page as the default. Tony -- phone +61 2 6241 7659 mailto:me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au http://purl.oclc.org/NET/Tony.Barry From me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au Mon May 14 18:59:10 2001 From: me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au (Tony Barry) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] academic web administration In-Reply-To: <200105141345.AA48890344@mail.mville.edu> References: <200105141345.AA48890344@mail.mville.edu> Message-ID: At 10:47 AM -0700 14/5/01, Tami-Jo M. Eckley wrote: > My main gripe in all of this "splash page" and college banner >issue, is that they are forcing the library into being just a normal >"department" of the college instead of the entity that it is. I'm afraid that it is. The library as a separate entity is a consequence of print technology. Electronically accessible publications make the "library" ubiquitous. Rather that pushing for for the library to be an isolated entity you should be pushing for the library to have a presence on every course page, and I don't mean links to the library's home page, I mean links to content provided by the library relevant to that page. Tony -- phone +61 2 6241 7659 mailto:me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au http://purl.oclc.org/NET/Tony.Barry From hck at lrz.uni-muenchen.de Tue May 15 03:51:53 2001 From: hck at lrz.uni-muenchen.de (Heinrich C. Kuhn) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lee Jaffe wrote i.a.: > Eventually the point that seemed to win the day was that all > of our sister campuses provided a link to their libraries on > their homepages and therefore we looked like the only campus > without a library. This is a good point, I think. Just let me tell you a story that happened here some 3 days ago: PRELUDE: One of our students was thinking about spending a year abroad as a student of university XYZ [somewhere in the USA]. She consulted the webpages and found the philosophy department. In order to find out whether that department is interested in what she is interested in, we looked for lists of publications by those teaching there; result: none found. We then checked the major library union catalogues available here for publications by those teachers: rather scarce results. Results from data- bases listing articles in journals etc. were better, but scarce nevertheless. INTERLUDE: The library of the university XYZ will most certainly hold most of the monographs by the members of that department, but we could not find a WWW-link to it. The holdings of that library might have served as an argument, that uni- versity XYZ has strong interest in those fields our student is interested in; but as said: we could not find a link to that library (local search and search engine search left us without results as well). OVERALL RESULT: The student with some probability will decide to go not to XYZ but to annother university (although it would have been XYZ in case we'd have found the URL of the libary of XYZ and in case there should have been "relevant" books by the teachers at that department in that library or if the holdings of that library would have looked "convincing" to our student). PERHAPS TO TELL TO YOUR WWW-GODS: Not making the WWW-pages of your library easily accessible will with some probability result in some of the more "inter- esting" students not coming to your university. Best regards Heinrich C. Kuhn +------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr. Heinrich C. Kuhn | Seminar fuer Geistesgeschichte der Renaissance | Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen | D-80539 Muenchen / Ludwigstr. 31/IV | T.: +49-89-2180 2018, F.: +49-89-2180 2907 | inst. URL: http://www.phil-hum-ren.uni-muenchen.de/ | priv. URL: http://www.phil-hum-ren.uni-muenchen.de/php/Kuhn/ +------------------------------------------------------------------- From doug_doremus at standardandpoors.com Tue May 15 04:22:32 2001 From: doug_doremus at standardandpoors.com (doug_doremus@standardandpoors.com) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Doug Doremus/SP/FIS is out of the office. Message-ID: <200105150821.BAA28511@webjunction.org> I will be out of the office from 05/15/2001 until 05/17/2001. I will have limited access to e-mail, but you may leave a message on my voicemail at 212-438-1377. 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You must get out there and market your library. Create an e-mail based newsletter. Send out notices to appropriate faculty groups about new books and new databases. Get out of the library and go to department meetings. Take part in college wide committees and activities. The first page of the most effective college webpages do not necessarily lit any departments. They usually list the type of user: prospective student; enrolled student; faculty/staff; general public; alumni. The library would then be liste don every one of those pages. Bill Drew drewwe@morrisville.edu From GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV Tue May 15 09:01:42 2001 From: GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV (Masters, Gary E) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Off topic - STB systems fate Message-ID: I know there has been some video board makers buying each outer out, but did not notice that STB systems had a problem. Can someone bring me up to date. It seems that they were bought by one company that has now been bought by nVida. Or and I wrong? I want to update my drivers for the STB Velocity 128 3D board, if that is possible. If not, what should I get for good 3D support (Myst III)? Thanks, Gary Gary E. Masters Librarian (Systems) CDRH - FDA (301) 827-6893 From wiggins at mail.com Tue May 15 10:34:21 2001 From: wiggins at mail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Graphic identity; site visibility Message-ID: <386468851.989937261647.JavaMail.root@web577-mc> Tami-Jo, Speaking as someone who launched a university on the Web in April 1993, and who has watched the evolution of the entire campus Web presence, I can see both sides of the argument in terms of imposing a look and feel... I recently visited the local community college and was impressed by the professional, Web-based kiosk in major buildings, offering a single directory to all major services. I asked myself "Why can't a university do this?" and came up with two answers: 1) Because it's a university and 2) Some do, but I bet a lot of college and departmental webmasters don't like it. One college at our university has adopted a consistent look and feel for all college and departmental Web pages, even down to the faculty. (Individual faculty can of course vary their own personal pages.) I think this imparts a sense of coherence and professionalism to the whole college. I bet some students and faculty were influenced in coming here because of this site. The consistent layout also simplifies navigation. But I wonder if the imposition of the standard ruffled any feathers? See http://cas.msu.edu/ ... You were concernced about your site's visibility within the university and imposed look-and-feel. There are other issues of visibility -- to non-traditional browsers, and to spiders. Twice recently I have discovered sites at my university that employ Javascript mouseovers for all internal navigation links. The result is these pages are invisible to spiders, and invisible to talker technology used by people with visual impairments. The sites were substantially redesigned by folks with a lot of coding talent, but they could have been more sensitive about accessibility. I viewed your page in a text-only browser, and it did a pretty good job of decoding your image map. Other sites that use pure Javascript with no graceful degradation can make pages that are virtually invisible other than to graphical browsers. As more people learn Javascript and as more authoring tools enable mouseovers, we're going to see more and more pages that are inaccessible in this way. That's at least as important an issue as how the rest of the institution links to your site.... /rich --------------------------- From: "Tami-Jo M. Eckley" Subject: library - 0 / college - 1 Hi folks, I am sending an you all an update to my long ago problem of having to incorporate a "splash page." We have been living with the splash page and the inevitable has just happened. We have been told that we must conform to the corporate image (who are we kidding, here!) and use the college banner on all of our pages. At least this time our newly hired college webmaster is willing to compromise with me on the design of the banner! Unfortunately, even with our using the banner - they still want that splash page! Uggh. And on top of that - I had just created a newly designed home image which everyone so far loved (although I do need to create a text only link as well). Oh well, I can use it on my resume... http://www.mville.edu/library/newsite.htm -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library Tel:(914) 323-5274 Fax:(914) 694-8139 ______________________________________ __________________________________________________ Richard Wiggins Consulting, Writing & Training on Internet Topics http://www.netfact.com/rww wiggins@mail.com 517-349-6919 (home office) 517-353-4955 (work) ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From gnt002 at mail.connect.more.net Tue May 15 10:29:31 2001 From: gnt002 at mail.connect.more.net (Rhonda Riley) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Web-based training on library skills Message-ID: <3B013D4B.B4AEDB3C@mail.connect.more.net> "Smith, Barbara" wrote: > I'm gathering information about Web based training on library skills for > staff development in public, academic and special libraries. A number of > library schools offer Web based and other e-learning courses that lead to > degrees. But what about training that supports the practical work in > libraries, for all levels of staff? Examples might include a shelving > tutorial for pages; circulation system basics; reference desk skills; > customer service skills. I know this isn't web base training, but for shelvers and new staff, we use Dewey Easy software. After completing the program a certificate is printed. Dewey Easy and LC Easy software are available at: http://www.librarytools.com/ They have a free demo of the software you can download from their site. This way you can try it out 10 minutes at a time to see if you like it. If you do they will give you a code so you can use the complete program. -Rhonda Riley gnt002@mail.connect.more.net Christian County Library http://www.mlnc.org/~ccl 1005 N 4th Ave. Ozark, MO 65721 (417)581-2432 From bishopk at rpi.edu Tue May 15 10:36:26 2001 From: bishopk at rpi.edu (Kevin W. Bishop) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B011C05B5@mail1.morrisville .edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010515103110.028bd880@mail.rpi.edu> How does one establish that "the most effective college web pages ... list the type of user"? Is this an opinion, or has it been demonstrated anywhere -- in any way -- that an audience-based architecture is more effective than, say, a task-based navigational system? This kind of thing keeps me up at night. -kb At 05:17 AM 5/15/01 -0700, Drew, Bill wrote: >You can't rely on being placed on the first page of the web to get people to >use your library webpages. That is the lazy person's way out. You must get >out there and market your library. Create an e-mail based newsletter. Send >out notices to appropriate faculty groups about new books and new databases. >Get out of the library and go to department meetings. Take part in college >wide committees and activities. > >The first page of the most effective college webpages do not necessarily lit >any departments. They usually list the type of user: prospective student; >enrolled student; faculty/staff; general public; alumni. The library would >then be liste don every one of those pages. > >Bill Drew >drewwe@morrisville.edu _________________________________________ Kevin W. Bishop, Campus-Wide Info. Sys. Coord. Libraries and Information Services Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | From plum at ulink.net Tue May 15 11:29:25 2001 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ] RE: academic web administration References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B011C05B5@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <002e01c0dd53$d2eac840$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> > You can't rely on being placed on the first page of the web to get people to > use your library webpages. I am wondering if registering a short, catchy-yet-appropriate domain name would help. For example (fictional) : harvardlib.org Have libraries done this? From esche_ma at oaklandlibrary.org Tue May 15 12:58:05 2001 From: esche_ma at oaklandlibrary.org (Margaret Escherich) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: <002e01c0dd53$d2eac840$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> Message-ID: Not an academic example, but yes, we did this for our public library. We originally were oak2.ci.oakland.ca.us. The city went with oaklandnet.com (I'm not even going to comment on that...!!), and we settled with oaklandlibrary.org, and it seems to be a great improvement over the old domain. -Margaret Margaret Escherich Senior Librarian/Webmistress Oakland Public Library http://oaklandlibrary.org > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Nancy Sosna Bohm > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:31 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ] RE: academic web administration > > > > You can't rely on being placed on the first page of the web to > get people > to > > use your library webpages. > > I am wondering if registering a short, catchy-yet-appropriate domain name > would help. For example (fictional) : harvardlib.org > Have libraries done this? > From ngeorge at salem.mass.edu Tue May 15 14:01:42 2001 From: ngeorge at salem.mass.edu (Nancy George) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Info. Tech. Interest Group June Program - ACRL/New England Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20010515140135.009a4400@clipper.salem.mass.edu> Please excuse cross postings. Thanks. >The ACRL/New England Chapter Information Technology Interest Group >Spring 2001 Program > >"Expanding the Library Catalog" > >Friday, June 8, 2001 >9:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. >Paff Auditorium, Feinstein College of Continuing Education >University of Rhode Island, Providence Campus >Providence, Rhode Island > >Presentations: > >"Connecticut History Online: A Collaborative Approach for Expanding >Online Collections." > Rutherford W. Witthus, UConn. > >"A Brave New World of Possibilities." > Barbara Herzog, Innovative Interfaces, Inc. > >"Beyond the Electronic Card Catalog." > Terry Ballard, Quinnipiac University > >"StatCat: Building a Statistical Data Finder." > by Julie Linden & Ann Green, Yale University > >Cost for the program is $10. > >For more information and to register, see the ACRL/NEC ITIG Web site at >http://www.acrlnec.org/sigs/itig >or email Colleen Anderson at canderso@bryant.edu > Nancy George Electronic Resources Librarian Salem State College Library 352 Lafayette St. Salem, MA 01970 phone: 978-542-7182 fax: 978-542-6596 email: ngeorge@salem.mass.edu From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Tue May 15 15:15:48 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B011C05B5@mail1.morrisville.edu> References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B011C05B5@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: Couldn't disagree more with the tone of this. Yes, we shouldn't rely on a link on a page as the only way for users to find us, but don't discount the importance of prominent links as a means of finding you. And don't underestimate the importance of Web presence as a means to reminding the "powers that be" that you exist. -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz At 5:17 AM -0700 5/15/01, Drew, Bill wrote: >You can't rely on being placed on the first page of the web to get people to >use your library webpages. That is the lazy person's way out. You must get >out there and market your library. Create an e-mail based newsletter. Send >out notices to appropriate faculty groups about new books and new databases. >Get out of the library and go to department meetings. Take part in college >wide committees and activities. > >The first page of the most effective college webpages do not necessarily lit >any departments. They usually list the type of user: prospective student; >enrolled student; faculty/staff; general public; alumni. The library would >then be liste don every one of those pages. > >Bill Drew >drewwe@morrisville.edu From scottp at moondog.usask.ca Tue May 15 15:40:47 2001 From: scottp at moondog.usask.ca (Peter Scott) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Web Site usability guidelines Message-ID: The U.S. National Cancer Institute did a major re-design of their web site, concentrating on usability, and they produced some guidelines that other web developers may find useful. http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue May 15 16:08:16 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ] RE: academic web administration Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B495@mail1.morrisville.edu> Task oriented sites do not require you to know your users. User oriented site means you must know the users you serve and what they want. I strongly suggest two books: Design Wise by Alison Head and Information architecture for the World Wide Web by Rosenfeld and Morville. I can't give you a specific reference other than them but there is a lot of discussion and writing on the web on user oriented design. ___________________ Bill Drew - SUNY Morrisville Library BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu "Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant." -- Robert Louis Stevenson. From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Tue May 15 16:06:38 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web Site usability guidelines References: Message-ID: <014f01c0dd7a$f19c8810$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > The U.S. National Cancer Institute did a major re-design of their web site, > concentrating on usability, and they produced some guidelines that other > web developers may find useful. > > http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ Good thing they're developing their own guidelines, as none of their pages will get past Bobby. There's some good stuff in there, but if you're going to reinvent the wheel, it should at least come out round in the end. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Tue May 15 16:31:15 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Physical vs. Virual union catalogues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I feel I need to disagree with Roy here. As someone who tried to put the virtual catalog idea into the pipeline during the MELVYL redesign discussion, I never felt that the concept got a fair hearing. No, the virtual union catalog technology is not yet mature enough to stand up to a real-world test. However, very little progress would be made if we applied the same test to every emerging technology. Certainly, prototypes of online catalogs faired very badly compared to card catalogs, but someone was smart enough to see the potential in the new technology and pursue it despite the superficial limitations. I've been working for a few years as part of a project team creating a virtual union catalog for our regional library system. Our system is based upon DRA's Web2 product, one of only a few commercial packages available for this purpose. Right from the start there have been problems and they persist despite some very talented folks working long and hard to fix them. I'll admit that I can't see the DRA product or any of its competitors taking the place of a really mature, well-supported physical union catalog on the order of MELVYL. On the other hand, our entire system cost less than $30,000 out of pocket, is supported by an existing tech support position (i.e., no new staff) and has required only a few hundred hours of support time over a period of 3 years. Imagine what we could have done if we'd had MELVYL's development budget behind us. Before writing off VUCs based either on Roy's comments or Karen Coyle's study, I think you should take a look at the bigger picture. As far as I can determine, the major limitation to VUCs raised here is record merging and deduplication. We should remember that these were also problems with physical union catalogs initially and that considerable work went into resolving those problems. Why can't the same efforts be applied to make VUCs work just as well? At the same time, I think it important to recognize that large, physical union catalogs are a dead-end technology. For one thing, they are just that -- catalogs -- and can't do much else. We have moved past the catalog as the epitome of library automation and our users are certainly expecting more from us. At the very least, they want to know whether the item is available (status) and likely want to be able to request a hold or delivery. (It is interesting that interactive features added to static online union catalogs are provided by tapping the same technology that is at the heart of virtual union catalogs.) To put this question another way, if you had to come up with a solution today where information needed to be collected from an assortment of dispersed systems and displayed real-time, what approach would you take? Would you create a new database, large and flexible enough to hold all the data from all the subject systems, setting up a structure that loaded static information periodically, with all the corresponding standards and protocols issues. Or, would you create a system which could poll just the required systems for the needed information real-time and display it as requested? If you picked the latter approach, then the fact that there isn't a good product at hand isn't the most important factor. To paraphrase G.B. Shaw, "Now we know where we want to go. All that left is to figure out how to get there." -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz At 3:06 PM -0700 5/11/01, Roy Tennant wrote: >To my way of thinking, virtual union catalogs are what you do when >you can't do a physical union catalog. Virtual union catalogs have a >set of problems that are more difficult to solve than with actual >union catalogs. For example, de-duping (merging records that are for >the same item). > >If you go search some large virtual union catalogs (for example, >http://www.aclin.org/ or http://www.mnlink.org/) for an item you >should quickly see what I mean. Multiple records come back for the >same book, since records from different libraries are not merged. >Merging records on the fly can be considerably more difficult than >merging them in a batch-load operation -- particularly since there >is no time to iron out problems that cause near-duplicate records >not to merge. This alone is a serious enough issue to my way of >thinking to make virtual union catalogs a *last* resort. > >But for an actual study on this issue, I don't think you can do >better than an article by my colleague Karen Coyle, that ran >recently in D-Lib Magazine: "The Virtual Union Catalog: A >Comparative Study" >(http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march00/coyle/03coyle.html). She found >that VUCs came up seriously short (in a nutshell). >Roy > >At 10:04 PM -0700 5/9/01, George Zachos wrote: >>I am doing research on physical vs. virtual union library catalogues. I am >>especially interested on the future prospects of both of them. >> >>What is your opinion on this matter? >> >>Any recent work on this subject is wellcome. >> >>Thank you in advance!!! >> >>George >> >>George Zachos, M.Sc., Ph.D. >>University Librarian >>University of Ioannina >>Central Library >>P.O.Box 1186 >>GR-45110 Ioannina >>Greece >>Tel.: +30-651-97138 Fax:+30-651-97003 >>gzaxos@cc.uoi.gr >>http://www.lib.uoi.gr From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue May 15 16:37:26 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ] RE: academic web administration Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B498@mail1.morrisville.edu> Several have asked me if my message was based on personal experience or research. The answer is yes to both (at least my interpretation of the research). Use of our website at SUNY Morrisville Library is higher now than it ever was when we were linked on the very front of the college website. Looking at our logs, most users are not referred by other webpages at our site are "direct requests". This may mean someone accessing a bookmark, has us set as the homepage, or typed in our address. We have had 27,000 unique visitors since I reset the logs back in August 2000. I think, my own opinion based on my experiences, people find us because we provide something they need. Having a link on the first page may be good or best for inTITLE exposure, but word of mouth and marketing efforts need to be given greater prominence in the equation of use. Bill Drew From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Tue May 15 16:47:13 2001 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web Site usability guidelines References: Message-ID: <00ef01c0dd80$3827d1e0$e84ae980@usask.ca> > The U.S. National Cancer Institute did a major re-design of their web site, > concentrating on usability, and they produced some guidelines that other > web developers may find useful. > > http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ I found the following page especially interesting, given the topic seems to crop up on web4lib every couple of months -- discussion of monitor size, screen resolution, and fluid vs. fixed width design. Has a few links to studies on this sort of thing as well (haven't checked those out yet). http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/softhard.html#three - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Education & Research Technology Services, http://gollum.usask.ca/ Department of Computing Services, University of Saskatchewan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes" From cagimon at mplib.org Tue May 15 17:00:01 2001 From: cagimon at mplib.org (Gimon, Charles A) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Web Site usability guidelines Message-ID: Indeed. I wanted to see if they had anything to say about validation, but they don't seem to offer any means of searching their site. I decided not to go through the process of retrieving and scanning every page on my own, one by one. I'm really starting to think that many--maybe not all, but many--usability studies are pure, unadulterated bunkum. Believe me, I could go on (and on and on...), but thankfully, I have real work to do. --Charles Gimon Web Coordinator Minneapolis Public Library > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Dowling [mailto:tdowling@ohiolink.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:34 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Web Site usability guidelines > > > > The U.S. National Cancer Institute did a major re-design of > their web > site, > > concentrating on usability, and they produced some > guidelines that other > > web developers may find useful. > > > > http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ > > Good thing they're developing their own guidelines, as none > of their pages > will get past Bobby. > > There's some good stuff in there, but if you're going to reinvent the > wheel, it should at least come out round in the end. > > > Thomas Dowling > OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network > tdowling@ohiolink.edu > From pfa at umich.edu Tue May 15 16:55:04 2001 From: pfa at umich.edu (P. F. (Pat) Anderson) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Web Site usability guidelines In-Reply-To: <014f01c0dd7a$f19c8810$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> References: <014f01c0dd7a$f19c8810$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: At 1:41 PM -0700 5/15/01, Thomas Dowling wrote: > > The U.S. National Cancer Institute did a major re-design of their web >site, >> concentrating on usability, and they produced some guidelines that other >> web developers may find useful. >> >> http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ > >Good thing they're developing their own guidelines, as none of their pages >will get past Bobby. > >There's some good stuff in there, but if you're going to reinvent the >wheel, it should at least come out round in the end. > > >Thomas Dowling >OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network >tdowling@ohiolink.edu Their main page doesn't flunk Bobby: http://www.usability.gov/ What I like about their guidelines is that it applies a review of the evidence along with a quality of evidence statement. Not perfect, but I think this is a very valuable approach for someone to have taken. I do wish they'd cut down on the images, though. Usability-wise, it is hard to justify using images to communicate textual content unless it is part of a larger non-text graphic. Pat Anderson -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . P. F. (Pat) Anderson 734/763-2953, voice Dentistry Library, Univ. Michigan 734/764-4477, fax 1100 Dental Bldg. 1011 North University Ave. WWW: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~pfa/ Ann Arbor, Michigan WWW: http://www.lib.umich.edu/dentlib/ 48109-1078 "No educational institutions ... can assume to be well equipped for their work without a good library and museum. The library should contain ... the entire literature of all subjects and branches taught in a given institution. Dental colleges should be no means be an exception in this respect." Taft, J. Dental Register 47 (1893):105-114. From bernies at uillinois.edu Tue May 15 17:05:36 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: Marketing Digital Reference Services Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB04232617@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> I'd like to hear from people who feel that they've done a good job of marketing their digital/online/electronic reference service. I'm interested in both synchronous services (e.g., chat reference) and asynchronous services (e.g., e-mail reference). I'm especially interested in hearing from folks who feel they've been successful at targeting their marketing efforts to "niche" groups such as such as specific college departments, online classes, or distance learners. Thanks! Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From plum at ulink.net Tue May 15 18:41:10 2001 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:36 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Web Site usability guidelines References: <014f01c0dd7a$f19c8810$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <00cb01c0dd90$2418ad40$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> > > The U.S. National Cancer Institute >>...concentrating on usability, and they produced some guidelines that other > > web developers may find useful. > > > > http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ > > There's some good stuff in there, but if you're going to reinvent the > wheel, it should at least come out round in the end. Just a cursory glance at the source code shows no styles, just font tags and tables. Perhaps the usability of the page itself is geered towards all levels of coders? From rharrison at Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU Tue May 15 18:57:06 2001 From: rharrison at Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU (Harrison, Roger) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:37 2005 Subject: library newsletters on the web? Message-ID: <878426F37FAED311890C009027CC888506AD54E8@exch3.Fullerton.EDU> Has anyone ever compiled a list of library newsletters available on the web? I notice that many libraries now publish their newsletters on their sites, either in HTML or PDF. Roger Harrison, Network Analyst CSU Fullerton, Pollak Library P.O. Box 4150 Fullerton, CA 92834-4150 Voice: 714-278-2666 Fax: 714-278-1333 http://rharrison.fullerton.edu/ mailto:rharrison@fullerton.edu From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue May 15 21:34:10 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:37 2005 Subject: TILT tutorial for information literacy Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B49B@mail1.morrisville.edu> Has anyone implemented a version of TILT from the University of Texas? I am working on a local version for our library to be used with the course I teach, Library Research Methods. I am curious as to what kinds of changes other are making. I am also looking for suggestions. I know it does not meet Bobby requirements yet. My version is at: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/TILT/intro/ The original is at: http://tilt.lib.utsystem.edu Information and an agreement for using TILT to create your own version is at: http://tilt.lib.utsystem.edu/yourtilt/ ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. From cchick at earthlink.net Tue May 15 23:25:22 2001 From: cchick at earthlink.net (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:37 2005 Subject: LLRX.com update for May 15, 2001 Message-ID: New on LLRX.com for May 15, 2001: http://www.llrx.com **Advanced Citation Tools and the Integration of the Legal Technology Workspace http://www.llrx.com/features/citationtool.htm This article by Roger Skalbeck is divided into three sections, beginning with a look at research and writing tools in the process of reviewing and drafting documents. Roger then provides detailed evaluations of West's citation software tools, West CiteLink 2.2 and WestCheck 4.11 (http://www.llrx.com/features/westcitetool.htm), and the Lexis-Nexis Citation Tools 2001, LexLink v. 8.2 and CheckCite v. 8.2 (http://www.llrx.com/features/lexnex.htm) **Computers in Libraries 2001 http://www.llrx.com/features/complibraries.htm Kumar Percy highlights topics covered at this conference held in Washington, D.C., including: search engine trends, dynamic web sites, useful tools and gadgets, and instant document delivery. **Researching U.S. Treaties and Agreements http://www.llrx.com/features/ustreaty.htm Marci Hoffman's comprehensive guide covers research guides, indexes and finding tools, full-text sources, status, updating and ratification information, legislative histories, treaties by popular name, and treatises and agreements on the Internet. **Researching Non-U.S. Treaties and Agreements http://www.llrx.com/features/non_ustreaty.htm Stefanie Wegman's extensive guide is on researching multilateral and bilateral agreements to which the United States is not a signatory. Stefanie covers topics including: locating and updating treaties; indexes to treaty collections; treaty research online; status information; implementation and interpretation; drafting of treaties; and bilateral treaties outside of the U.S. **Reference from Coast to Coast: If You're in Detroit Michigan, It Must be Wayne County http://www.llrx.com/columns/reference25.htm If you are given a street address or a city name, what is the best way to determine the county? Jan Bissett and Margi Heinen review a variety of resources that fit the bill. **Slip Opinions Listservers - Updated http://www.llrx.com/columns/roundup12.htm Kathy Biehl's updated, annotated list includes listservers and notification services that are free and fee-based. The sources range from the courts, to bar associations, commercial sites, and even a law firm. **One Stop Shopping for Company Data: A Comparison of CO-PROFILE and CompanyAnalyzer http://www.llrx.com/extras/company.htm Donna Cavallini compares and contrasts two useful corporate information gathering tools; CO PROFILE from West Group, and Company Analyzer from Lexis. **LLRX Buzz http://www.llrx.com/buzz/buzz56.htm SBA Launches New Marketing Tool Authentica Announces Free Document Protection Service California Legal Resources Chris Sherman Unleashes New Newsletter Upon the World VersusLaw Announces AdvanceLinks AltaVista Adds NY Times to Its Search Service BCL Computers Launches GoBCL.com **LLRX Latest Links http://www.llrx.com/links/index.htm Guide to Law Online Guide to Electronic Resources for Mexican Law LexNotes ICI Mutual Fund Connection Language Sites on the Net Web Robots Pages **LLRX Featured Site: http://www.llrx.com NewsFactor.com This portal provides, news, analysis and headlines on e-commerce and technology related information from the U.S. and abroad. Comprising seven publications, each one targets a large sector of the broad business technology marketplace. From among these publications, TechNewsWorld links to updated headlines every five minutes from around the Web and the world; E-Commerce Times is a reliable source for business and IT news and commentary; and Wireless News Factor focuses on a wide range of wireless industry issues. ** LLRX Newstand: Updated Daily http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm -VeriSign Nears Internet Domain Deal -Global E-Commerce Standard Proposed -Music Publisher, Labels Debate Online Music -E-Rate Funding for Schools and Libraries Falls Short According to GAO -Can Spam Ever Be Stopped? -AOL Time Warner May Face New Investigation -Backlash Over Gracenote Suit -Online News Operation Netimperative Gets Stay of Execution, Will Charge User Fees -Intelliseek Announces the New ProFusion.com -New Net Traffic Plan Snarled -Digital Signatures Spark Debate -Avant Case a Brazen Example of Intellectual Property Tech Theft CongressLine News: http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm#CongressLine -IT Training Tax Credit Bill Introduced in House -U.S. Senator: Cyberattacks Could 'Devastate' Nation -The Slippery Fight Over E-Mail Spam -Massachusetts Gives State Agencies Deadline for Privacy Policies on Web Sites -Senate Bill Would Ban Sale of Social Security Numbers Tech Trends: http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm#TechTrends -Newsbytes Has All New Look as of May 14, 2001 -Web Researchers Hunt Like Animals -What They (Don't) Know About You: Choicepoint's Personal Data Collection Service -Digital Storage: Computer Age Gets a Valhalla -State of the Art: Palmtops Add Spice to Staple -CNN, Martindale-Hubbell Announce Alliance; Publisher of Lawyer Directory to be Exclusive Provider for CNN.com, CNNfn.com -Reed Elsevier Launches New LexisNexis Brand, Logo, and Expanded Global Focus for Global Legal and Information Business From dsaklad at gnu.org Wed May 16 04:19:56 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Bobby, the free service provided by CAST Center for Applied Special Technology to help Web page authors identify and repair significant barriers to access by individuals with disabilities gives a great diagnosis. But it leaves you floundering a bit on how to implement changes depending on your expertise http://www.cast.org/bobby/ What can you do to improve a web log that it would be ever more accessible for anyone with different platforms, different web devices or retrocomputing technology?... http://web.mit.edu/retro-comp/www/ When you use a template from http://www.WebLogs.com exactly what are some examples of what can you do to make your web log ever more accessible for people with limited vision who use vocalization software to read what is on the screen?... oo__ dWs Guide to Problematical Regional and Massachusetts Library of Last Recourse Boston Public Library Use Contents http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories Updates http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com From me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au Wed May 16 08:17:10 2001 From: me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au (Tony Barry) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: Standards for library host names - was - academic web administration In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B011C05B5@mail1.morrisville.edu> References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B011C05B5@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: At 5:17 AM -0700 15/5/01, Drew, Bill wrote: >You can't rely on being placed on the first page of the web to get people to >use your library webpages. That is the lazy person's way out. You must get >out there and market your library. A standard host name for library web sites would help. I don't mean a domain *.lib but something along the lines of - library.institution.edu library.institution.edu.au library.institution.gov etc That way if you could find the institution the library is easily found. This could well run afoul of restrictive institutional policies which restrict the ability to subdivide the institutions host name. If enough major library bodies endorsed the idea it might fly. Tony -- phone +61 2 6241 7659 mailto:me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au http://purl.oclc.org/NET/Tony.Barry From davidcj at MIT.EDU Wed May 16 09:55:15 2001 From: davidcj at MIT.EDU (David Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: Computer Technology staffing at Research Libraries Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010515150055.01ea6c98@po10.mit.edu> This is an information request and possibly a research question for librarians. I hope it is appropriate here. Our Libraries at MIT are in the process of planning and investigating possible options for structuring technical computer hardware/software support to the libraries. We would like to gain your thoughts and insights from experience in your library. Perhaps there already are publications on this topic as well which would give some very up-to-date quantitative information. If so, we would love to know what is out there with shich you might be familiar. We are really looking for material or information from the year 2000 or 2001, not 1990's information. We have 11 libraries with 2.5 million items all in Cambridge Massachusetts, and several options for digital delivery, storage, and database/e-jounal subscriptions. Staffing of positions for the libraries in the hardware/software areas is a curious and challenging issue for us. We are most curious about how other leading academic research libraries have tackled the staffing issue. Ideally we would like to see organizational charts, etc. But we will certainly settle for what we can get here! Please don't feel you have to spend all day and all night answering these general questions. Ballpark figures are better than none. Feel free to leave out answers about money if you don't know or can't disclose that. Feel free also to send this material directly to me if you do not want others on this list to see it. Thanks David Johnson Library Technology Consultant MIT Libraries 77 Mass Ave Room 14-0615 Cambridge, MA 02139 617-253-9327 ********************************************************************* If some of you kind folk in academic research libraries, (like those at major colleges and universities), would give us the low-down on how you are put together, we would be mighty appreciative. Here are some questions In your college or university setting: How many Students are there ? Undergrad/ Graduate/ Total How many Campuses? In how many different cities/towns are these campuses in? How many total items does your library have in in its holdings? How many library FTE's (full time equivilent employees) How many total square feet of floor space if known? How many FTE's in computer/network support on library payroll? How many web design/digital rights management software/ database management/ other software specialist type FTE's on library payroll? What do you call them? Do you have job descriptions you can share to help us define and relate our staff positions to yours? How many dollars are spent per year by library budget on just hardware? How does this break down? How many dollars are spent per year on FTE's (personnel costs with fringe) for computer/network hardware/software support? Does this include digital rights management? Web support? etc. How many FTE MLS librarian positions are on the library payroll? What outside support, development, management or other hardware, software, programming, troubleshooting, repair, or other services are availabe to you and at what dollar cost to the libraries? For example, the university computer "server farm" or "data center" may house and maintain the servers used by your library management system along with the academic records computers, accounting and business services mainframes for the entire college. Another example would be hiring a web design consultant firm to design the web pages for your library. Again, this is work performed on behalf of the libraries, but work that is not done by library staff members. This might be either a "hidden" cost or a hidden "in kind" contribution to the library's bottom line. Any light you can shed on these values and costs would be helpful. Thanks in advance for your information! David Johnson Library Technology Consultant MIT Libraries 77 Mass Ave Room 14-0615 Cambridge, MA 02139 617-253-9327 From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed May 16 10:30:17 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Web Site usability guidelines References: <00cb01c0dd90$2418ad40$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> Message-ID: <00a101c0de15$07ee9690$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> From: "Nancy Sosna Bohm" > > > The U.S. National Cancer Institute > >>...concentrating on usability, and they produced some guidelines that > other > > > web developers may find useful. > > > > > > http://www.usability.gov/guidelines/ > > > > There's some good stuff in there, but if you're going to reinvent the > > wheel, it should at least come out round in the end. > > Just a cursory glance at the source code shows no styles, just font tags and > tables. Perhaps the usability of the page itself is geered towards all > levels of coders? It is misleading to equate use of stylesheets with some advanced level of coder. Freeing beginners from deeply nested tables and proliferating font tags is instead a big help to them. Regardless, a page can get meet at least the priority 1 requirements in WCAG (and therefore in Bobby) using tables and fonts till the cows come home. Making those tables 700 pixels wide is not a good way to get started, though. Putting almost the whole page inside and tags is a big clue that they Don't Get It. I appreciate the effort they put into collating sources for each of their recommendations. But they don't seem to extrapolate well from them. They identify the most common monitor size as 17", 800x600, but they don't understand that an usable page has to work on a 500px-wide *window* within that screen. They don't even seem to mention the possibility of a page without a fixed width. They recognize the importance of not rendering fonts too small, but don't mention that all graphical browsers put the default size in the user's control, and don't recognize that a recommendation about paper-based point sizes has no exact correlation to onscreen size. As I said before, the site collects a lot of good tips into one location. They need to think through some of their material a little more and have their own developers apply it to their site. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From schnell.9 at osu.edu Wed May 16 10:49:17 2001 From: schnell.9 at osu.edu (Eric Schnell) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: New Prospero Email Discussion List Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20010516103017.00aeb528@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Sorry for duplicate postings.... In response to several requests we have established a Prospero email discussion list. To subscribe, go to: http://auto.med.ohio-state.edu/mailman/listinfo/prospero The postings to this list are also stored in a Web archive for future reference. http://auto.med.ohio-state.edu/pipermail/prospero/ Happy posting -Eric Eric Schnell Assistant Professor Head, Information Technology Services Prior Health Sciences Library The Ohio State University schnell.9@osu.edu / 614-292-4870 http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/eric.html "You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of employing wild animals as librarians." --Monty Python's Flying Circus From bishopk at rpi.edu Wed May 16 11:15:54 2001 From: bishopk at rpi.edu (Kevin W. Bishop) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ] RE: academic web administration In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B495@mail1.morrisville.e du> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010516103455.028fa640@mail.rpi.edu> I respectfully disagree. (And as long as we're shooting from the hip here, I don't believe ANY navigational system allows its designers to ignore the users; EVERY navigation system must "know" its users to some extent.) A Xerox PARC study recently analyzed web user behavior from the perspective of "foraging theories," and have found it useful to explain the navigational strategies of users as following the strength of the information "scent." That scent is, of course, strong or weak based on the user's frame of reference, his/her experience. Although this is a fine and delicate distinction to make, to me it seems more productive to concentrate on WHY a user comes to our site ("what would someone want from our jungle?") rather than telling our users who we think they are and, as a consequence, what they want. I would argue that users generally come to us not to be told that they are this or that type of user, but to find the answer to a question. But then again, unless and until we have studies to support our assertions, we could probably argue till the cows come home. ;) Thanks. -kb At 01:26 PM 5/15/01 -0700, Drew, Bill wrote: >Task oriented sites do not require you to know your users. User oriented >site means you must know the users you serve and what they want. I strongly >suggest two books: Design Wise by Alison Head and Information architecture >for the World Wide Web by Rosenfeld and Morville. I can't give you a >specific reference other than them but there is a lot of discussion and >writing on the web on user oriented design. > >___________________ >Bill Drew - SUNY Morrisville Library BillDrew.Net: >http://billdrew.net >E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu >"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant." >-- Robert Louis Stevenson. _________________________________________ Kevin W. Bishop, Campus-Wide Info. Sys. Coord. Libraries and Information Services Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute | From stevenxz45 at hotmail.com Wed May 16 11:34:06 2001 From: stevenxz45 at hotmail.com (Steven Zhou) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: looking for help to kill virus Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Norton AntiVirus discovers my pc is affected by "32.Badtrans.13312@mm" virus, but it can not kill it. The virus is found in several files such as "hkkdll.dll" and "kern32.exe" at the directory of c:\windows\system. Currently the computer is working well. It seems that only MS-Outlook is hit by the virus. I'll appreicate it if some one on the list can tell me how to remove the virus. Thanks, Steven _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Wed May 16 11:52:14 2001 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] looking for help to kill virus References: Message-ID: <003b01c0de20$3216d210$e84ae980@usask.ca> > Norton AntiVirus discovers my pc is affected by "32.Badtrans.13312@mm" > virus, but it can not kill it. The virus is found in several files such as > "hkkdll.dll" and "kern32.exe" at the directory of c:\windows\system. > Currently the computer is working well. It seems that only MS-Outlook is hit > by the virus. I'll appreicate it if some one on the list can tell me how to > remove the virus. Check out these for more info: http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/badtrans.shtml http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99069& The McAfee site lists some steps for removal. - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Education & Research Technology Services, http://gollum.usask.ca/ Department of Computing Services, University of Saskatchewan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes" From drobinson at hwwexch.hwwilson.com Wed May 16 12:06:41 2001 From: drobinson at hwwexch.hwwilson.com (Dan Robinson) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] looking for help to kill virus Message-ID: <0DBB337BAB6ABA4F8F7772585216794F0C7982@HWWEXCH.hwwilson.com> Are you running the latest update (5/13/2001). If not, get it and try again. These are the removal instructions from Norton: if the program won't remove it. It's always a good idea to keep the url for the antivirus updates for the program that you're running handy. Dan Robinson drobinson@hwwilson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Zhou [mailto:stevenxz45@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:35 AM > > > Hello Everyone, > > Norton AntiVirus discovers my pc is affected by > "32.Badtrans.13312@mm" > virus, but it can not kill it. The virus is found in several > files such as > "hkkdll.dll" and "kern32.exe" at the directory of c:\windows\system. > Currently the computer is working well. It seems that only > MS-Outlook is hit > by the virus. I'll appreicate it if some one on the list can > tell me how to > remove the virus. > > Thanks, > > Steven >> From victoriawl at guigne.com Wed May 16 14:45:03 2001 From: victoriawl at guigne.com (Victoria Woodworth-Lynas) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Does anyone out there have any names of software companies that manufacture software for creating digitial libraries, preferrably relatively inexpensive ones? I am currently working with a company that is researching digital libraries in order to begin its own implementation of such technology. The library is going to be used on our own intranet and is to have restricted access even to employees. If anyone has any information pertaining to this, PLEASE email me. Cheers, Victoria Woodworth-Lynas mailto:victoriawl@guigne.com From george at library.caltech.edu Wed May 16 15:09:05 2001 From: george at library.caltech.edu (George Porter) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: Chronicle takes on libraries and e-library companies Message-ID: <0C2C50C9B668D311878100A0C9EA3676450229@dungeon.library.caltech.edu> Goldie Blumenstyk's article, "Companies Find Academic Libraries a Key Target and a Tough Sell" , is the clearest statement I've read thus far on the dodgy relationship between academic libraries/librarians and the commercial e-library ventures. Worth the reading and conveniently priced (read: free). George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 From beden at ccmail.nevada.edu Wed May 16 14:58:55 2001 From: beden at ccmail.nevada.edu (beden@ccmail.nevada.edu) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Message-ID: <88256A4E.006946AB.00@ccmail.nevada.edu> Please post this information to the list as well, as we would all benefit from the information. Dr. Brad Eden Head of Cataloging University of Nevada, Las Vegas beden@ccmail.nevada.edu Victoria Woodworth-Lynas on 05/16/2001 11:53:55 AM Please respond to victoriawl@guigne.com To: Multiple recipients of list cc: (bcc: Brad Eden/UNLV) Subject: [WEB4LIB] Does anyone out there have any names of software companies that manufacture software for creating digitial libraries, preferrably relatively inexpensive ones? I am currently working with a company that is researching digital libraries in order to begin its own implementation of such technology. The library is going to be used on our own intranet and is to have restricted access even to employees. If anyone has any information pertaining to this, PLEASE email me. Cheers, Victoria Woodworth-Lynas mailto:victoriawl@guigne.com From duda at library.ucsb.edu Wed May 16 18:10:58 2001 From: duda at library.ucsb.edu (Andrea Duda) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: ISTL: Spring 2001 now available Message-ID: The Spring 2001 issue of Issues in Science and Technology Librarianship is now available at: http://www.istl.org/ The theme for this issue is Collection Development in the Internet Age. TABLE OF CONTENTS: ARTICLES * Collection Development in the Internet Age: An Introduction by David Flaxbart, Editorial Board, Issues in Science & Technology Librarianship * Selecting Electronic Publications: The Development of a Genre Statement by Lila A. Faulkner and Karla L. Hahn, University of Maryland * Developing an Online Science Journal Collection: A Quick Tool for Assigning Priorities by Anne Christie and Laurel Kristick, Oregon State University * E-Journal Bundling and Its Impact on Academic Libraries: Some Early Results by Jonathan Nabe, Brandeis University * Aggregated Science: An Examination of Three Multi-Disciplinary Databases by J.B. Hill, Southeastern Louisiana University * Managing Access to a Publisher Package: IEE, IEL, and Xplore by John Matylonek, Oregon State University and Denise Bennett, University of Florida * Collection Management Strategies in a Digital Environment by Cecily Johns, University of California, Santa Barbara REFEREED ARTICLES * Characterization of Unique Serials Indexed in the Zoological Record by Janet Hughes, The Pennsylvania State University BOOK REVIEWS * Readers' Guide to the History of Science by Arne Hessenbruch Reviewed by David Farrell, University of California, Berkeley JOURNAL REVIEWS AND REPORTS * Journal of SMET Education: Innovations and Research Reviewed by Teresa Larkin-Hein, American University SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES ON THE INTERNET * Internet Teaching Resources in Chemical Research Ethics by K.T.L. Vaughan, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CONFERENCE REPORTS * Science and Information Literacy on the Internet: Using the ACRL and Project 2061 Standards to Create a Science Web Page Evaluation Tool, ACRL Conference, March 16, 2001 by Kate Manuel, California State University, Hayward =========================================================== Andrea L. Duda Sciences-Engineering Library University of California, Santa Barbara E-mail: duda@library.ucsb.edu =========================================================== From diane at kovacs.com Wed May 16 17:57:20 2001 From: diane at kovacs.com (Diane K. Kovacs) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: "Designing and Implementing Web-based Training" August, 2001 Web-Based Workshop Message-ID: "Designing and Implementing Web-based Training" August, 2001 Web-Based Workshop Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* August 8 & 15 Noon-3 EST (11-2 CST, 10-1 MST, 9-12 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students through e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Agenda Syllabus at http://www.kovacs.com/webtrain.html Part 1 - Introduction to Web-Based Training Options, Instructional Design and Web Page Design for Instruction. Part 2. - Designing and Creating Web pages for Web-based Training (options: DreamWeaver, Netscape Composer, WebCT, Blackboard) Part 3. - *This will be an online meeting will be arranged by appointment with the instructor to discuss the communications options and clarify the workshop project requirements. Java enabled Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher are required for the live online sessions. If you are using Netscape 6.0 or IE 5.5 that came with Windows ME or 2000 please let the instructor know. Overview This hands-on Web-based workshop will provide experience in designing and constructing several forms of web-based training. The intellectual focus will be on using good instructional design and Web page design principles. Students will develop Web-based training using standard Web pages and free or low-cost communications tools. We will not work with high end multi-media plug-ins or high cost communications tools, although we will review some of these. After an introduction to instructional design and Web design for Web-based training and an overview of the state-of-the-art of web-based instructional technology and its applications, students will be guided through the process of constructing their own web-based training unit. This workshop requires a significant amount of Web-based activities, project work, and readings. Plan to spend at least 12 hours on Web-based work and readings. The 6 hours of scheduled online meeting time is in addition to Web-based work time. Student's working independantly will also want to plan for time in communication with the instructor. Audience This workshop is intended for trainers who work in libraries, businesses or other organizations. No Web-based training experience is expected. We will review the basics of Instructional Design for computer assisted instruction. Students should know how to use e-mail. Ideally students should know how to build at least a basic Web page. Part 2 Activities will provide the basic Web page construction skills (options: Netscape Composer, DreamWeaver, WebCT, Blackboard). The minimum Web page construction skills may be acquired by anyone interested by connecting to http://www.kovacs.com/basicreviews/basicpage.html The Instructor will assist students to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to participate in the real-time classes and to interact with the Web-based materials. Schedule Students working independently may begin the workshop at any time after August 1, 2001. Optional online live meetings are scheduled August 8 & 15, 2001 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) *Additional meeting dates are optional and alternative meeting times may be arranged by appointment with the instructor. Scheduling in each online live meeting be limited to 5 students per session. Schedule Arrangements for other small groups (minimum of 3 persons) may be made by contacting the instructor. diane@kovacs.com, 877-408-5812 (toll free in U.S. and Canada) or 330-273-5032 Registration and Tuition $300.00 per person Registration Form http://www.kovacs.com/register.html Materials All materials will be online on interactive Web pages. Color printed workshop materials will be sent to each registered participant via priority mail. Instructor: Diane K. Kovacs - Kovacs Consulting Internet & World Wide Web Training http://www.kovacs.com Genealogical Research on the Internet -Web-based Workshop in a Book Forthcoming from Neal-Schuman 2001 From lim at smccd.net Wed May 16 21:29:01 2001 From: lim at smccd.net (Lim, Poh Kim) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:38 2005 Subject: DeepFreeze-Professional Version Message-ID: <4371F723B565D31196C2009027B0FE1976E47A@smcxsrv2.smccd.net> Hi all, We wonder if anyone in this group is using the Professional verion of DeepFreeze to schedule tasks, and what is your experience with this software. We bought a copy from Hyper Technology, but it has not been working right. We loaded the software on our PCs and scheduled for the PCs to download the latest McAFee files from the Web every Friday at 4 p.m. But the software has been turning off the PCs at random time on random days, and it shuts down the PCs twice each time. This is driving our staff crazy because each time the PCs reboots themselves we have to go around and hit the enter key on each PC for them to really turn on. We are at the point of giving up, but I thought perhaps someone who has better experience with this software can help us. Kim Lim Skyline College Library From lisbk at ukoln.ac.uk Fri May 18 05:40:42 2001 From: lisbk at ukoln.ac.uk (Brian Kelly) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: library newsletters on the web? Message-ID: <036001c0df7e$9abbb4c0$d513268a@ukoln.ac.uk> > Has anyone ever compiled a list of library newsletters available on the web? > I notice that many libraries now publish their newsletters on their sites, > either in HTML or PDF. > > Roger Harrison, Network Analyst > CSU Fullerton, Pollak Library > P.O. Box 4150 > Fullerton, CA 92834-4150 > Voice: 714-278-2666 Fax: 714-278-1333 > http://rharrison.fullerton.edu/ > mailto:rharrison@fullerton.edu Hi Roger I don't have a list of online library newsletters, but I'm interested in the approaches taken by libraries which publish (or intend to publish) online newsletters. Recently I ran a workshop on this topic at the Internet Librarian International conference in London. The resources used in the workshop are available at: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/conferences/ili-2001/workshop/ I'd be interested in feedback, or hearing from people about the architectural designs people have chosen. Thanks Brian PS One resource you should look at it is . -------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Kelly UKOLN University of Bath BATH BA2 7AY Email: B.Kelly@ukoln.ac.uk Phone: (+44) 1225 323943 From bradzo at ozemail.com.au Fri May 18 05:38:42 2001 From: bradzo at ozemail.com.au (Brad Thomas) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? References: <036001c0df7e$9abbb4c0$d513268a@ukoln.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001c01c0df7e$549ecae0$24dd25cb@bonzo> Hi all The Visual Basic Programmers Journal had an interesting article about generating newsletters using XML and VBA (Visual basic for applications) in the April 2001 issue (Vol 11, No 4) pp: 46-53 ISSN: 1075-1955) see www.vbpj.com "Combine XML, Word, and VB to create a nicely formatted inbox newsletter" Using the DevX locator code of VB104JZ (available at http://www.devx.com/free/locatorplus/search.asp) allows you to download the code that accompanies the article. Might be useful for someone who knows XML and VB. Hope this helps.... Brad Brad Thomas IT Director Braddon Computing Services enquiries@braddoncs.com.au Creators of Ingenieum. www.ingenieum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kelly" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? > > > Has anyone ever compiled a list of library newsletters available on the > web? > > I notice that many libraries now publish their newsletters on their sites, > > either in HTML or PDF. > > > > Roger Harrison, Network Analyst > > CSU Fullerton, Pollak Library > > P.O. Box 4150 > > Fullerton, CA 92834-4150 > > Voice: 714-278-2666 Fax: 714-278-1333 > > http://rharrison.fullerton.edu/ > > mailto:rharrison@fullerton.edu > > Hi Roger > I don't have a list of online library newsletters, but I'm interested in > the approaches taken by libraries which publish (or intend to publish) > online newsletters. > Recently I ran a workshop on this topic at the Internet Librarian > International conference in London. The resources used in the workshop are > available at: > http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/conferences/ili-2001/workshop/ > I'd be interested in feedback, or hearing from people about the > architectural designs people have chosen. > > Thanks > > Brian > > PS One resource you should look at it is > . > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Brian Kelly > UKOLN > University of Bath > BATH > BA2 7AY > Email: B.Kelly@ukoln.ac.uk > Phone: (+44) 1225 323943 > > From bradzo at ozemail.com.au Fri May 18 05:41:00 2001 From: bradzo at ozemail.com.au (Brad Thomas) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? References: <036001c0df7e$9abbb4c0$d513268a@ukoln.ac.uk> Message-ID: <002001c0df7e$a6935280$24dd25cb@bonzo> Hi all - sorry :) In reference to my last message, the locator code should be: VB0104JZ not VB104JZ as in my last message. My sincere apologies..... Brad Brad Thomas IT Director Braddon Computing Services enquiries@braddoncs.com.au Creators of Ingenieum www.ingenieum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kelly" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? > > > Has anyone ever compiled a list of library newsletters available on the > web? > > I notice that many libraries now publish their newsletters on their sites, > > either in HTML or PDF. > > > > Roger Harrison, Network Analyst > > CSU Fullerton, Pollak Library > > P.O. Box 4150 > > Fullerton, CA 92834-4150 > > Voice: 714-278-2666 Fax: 714-278-1333 > > http://rharrison.fullerton.edu/ > > mailto:rharrison@fullerton.edu > > Hi Roger > I don't have a list of online library newsletters, but I'm interested in > the approaches taken by libraries which publish (or intend to publish) > online newsletters. > Recently I ran a workshop on this topic at the Internet Librarian > International conference in London. The resources used in the workshop are > available at: > http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/conferences/ili-2001/workshop/ > I'd be interested in feedback, or hearing from people about the > architectural designs people have chosen. > > Thanks > > Brian > > PS One resource you should look at it is > . > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Brian Kelly > UKOLN > University of Bath > BATH > BA2 7AY > Email: B.Kelly@ukoln.ac.uk > Phone: (+44) 1225 323943 > > From dsaklad at gnu.org Fri May 18 11:14:22 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: How to improve city public documents transmittal from City Halls to Public Libraries Message-ID: 1. How much collaborative effort is there out there among city halls and respective public libraries for the transmittal of city documents to the public libraries for readers' access?... In Boston, public access to city documents has been limited by a lack of a cooperative arrangement between city hall and Boston Public Library Government Documents http://www.bpl.org/WWW/govdocs/ http://cityofboston.gov/cityclerk For example, consider the minutes of city council meetings transactions. 2. a. Have any cities access to city documents such as minutes via web links?... b. Have city public libraries been involved in getting this information to the people via web links?... oo__ dWs Guide to Problematical Regional and Massachusetts Library of Last Recourse City of Boston Public Library Departments Use Contents http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com/stories Updates http://GuideToProblematicalLibraryUse.WebLogs.com From gprice at gwu.edu Fri May 18 13:03:28 2001 From: gprice at gwu.edu (gprice) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: Update: (Week 11) The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk Message-ID: <3B05E626@webmail2.gwu.edu> 5/18/01 Update Week 11 The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com New and Useful Web Sites, Industry News, Full-Text Docs of Interest to the Info Professional. If you are looking to stay current with news and new resource you will enjoy stopping by this week. REMEMBER, this e-mail update is a HEAVILY abridged version of what you will find on the weblog. Don't hesitate to share this message or simply the url with others. Feel free to stop by throughout the week for new resources and news of interest to the information professional. http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com Thanks for the continued support. If I can be of assistance, you know where to find me. Cheers, gary gprice@gwu.edu p.s. Links to past VAS&ND (archived postings) can be found in the left column of the page. Happy Browsing! ---------------- Weekly Highlights #11 The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com Thursday, May 17, 2001 Info Industry--Factiva Factiva Will License It's Taxonomy Canadian Resource Shelf Enviroment--Overview "Tracking Key Environmental Issues" Source: Environment Canada >From the update, "...an overview of the key environmental challenges facing Canada and the measures to address them." - Aerospace/Defense Industry--Statistics 1999/2000 Aerospace and Defence Survey Source: Industry Canada - Election Results Poll-by-Poll Result Files, 1997 and 2000 General Elections Raw Data Files Full-Text Document Shelf State Level Demographic Profiles from Census 2000 Now Online You'll want to bookmark this page as new profiles come online in the next few days. - Justice--Statistics--United States New/Updated Resources from the Bureau of Justice Statistics Drug and Crime Facts (Site Update) - Public Libraries--Internet Filtering "Libraries Win Delay in Installing Internet Filters" Source: AP --- Wednesday, May 16, 2001 Business--E-Commerce--Retail--Statistics Retail E-Commerce Sales, 1st Quarter, 2001 Source: U.S. Census/ESA A Few Notes About U.K. Resources Design--Searchable Database Image Databases Design Council Slide Collection - Legal Research More About the Resource Discovery Network Source: LLRX.com ----- Tuesday, May 15, 2001 Full-Text Document Shelf Campaign Finance--United States Congressional Financial Activity for 2000 Political Party Fundraising 2000 Both news releases contain many links to tables in both HTML and spreadsheet formats. - Demographics--United States Profile of General Demographic Characteristics for the U.S.-2000 Source: U.S. Census Direct to Highlights and News Release||| Direct to Full-Text Document - Manufacturing--United States Source: BLS Productivity and Costs: Manufacturing: 1990-1999 Kudos and Congratulations Libraries of the Future ALA/Information Today Library of the Future Award Winner Announced ---- Monday, May 14, 2001 Fee-Based Resources Trade Data--European Union New Resource: EuroTrade Online Knowledge Management "Managing the Knowledge Manager" Source: The McKinsey Quarterly Information Industry--LexisNexis Forget the Hyphen, LexisNexis Unifies Brands With New Name, Icon WOW! Internet Training Materials RDN (Resource Discovery Network) Virtual Training Suite ERIC--Guides ERIC: User's Guide For Librarians A new User's Guide aimed at the librarian audience. ---- Sunday, May 13, 2001 Professional Reading Online Databases via the Web "Playing Twenty Questions to Test Low-Cost, Free, or Subscription Databases for End-User Online Service" Source: Searcher (May, 2001) ---- Saturday, May 12, 2001 Business--Rankings The Forbes/Milken Institute Best Places for Business and Career-2001 Source: Forbes ---- Friday, May 11, 2001 Census 2000 Free E-Mail Tutorial The Alaska Library Association is offering a free e-mail tutorial on the 2000 Census. >From a recent e-mail posting, "Modeled after ALA's successful e-mail tutorial on copyright, this nine week, once-a-week tutorial will unravel many of the mysteries of Census 2000." Energy Crisis--California Source: EIA "Subsequent Events--California's Energy Crisis" ---- Thursday May 10, 2001 Database of the Day--Invisible Web Salary Data--U.S. and International SalaryExpert.Com Information provided by Baker, Thomsen Associates. Select job title (several hundred) and limit by zip code or state. Plenty of additional salary resources. An online International Version is also available. Even Better! Download the Full Version (free) that contains data for Over 32,000 Job Titles. Canada Resource Shelf Retail New Web Site: RetailInteractive.Ca ---- ---- ---- http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com End Week #11 Update Gary D. Price, MLIS Librarian Information Consultant, George Washington University gprice@gwu.edu Looking for Info Industry News? New Search Resources? New Web Accessible Documents? Visit The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Fri May 18 14:18:42 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: Mouse Platform - SUMMARY Message-ID: <3B056782.477BB33C@tln.lib.mi.us> Thank you to everyone who responded to my query about the need for: "a small platform that would ride over the "keypad" portion of the keyboard and would allow some extra room to allow the mouse to be maneuvered." I received a number of responses. The product I was specifically looking for was available as a "mouse" bridge and was available from AliMed at: http://www.alimed.com/ They run about $20 so I'm still thinking about seeing if I can get the high school shop kids to make something similar. There were another of other creative suggestions. One person pointed out that there are now touch-screen units that use a stylus to get around. Actually, I have been asked by my boss to investigate touch-screen technology. But, I'm not sold on the ergonomics of that route. I envision a lot of tired arms! The article on this is availabe from the NYT: April 26, 2001, Thursday STATE OF THE ART; Makeover for Desktop PC Adds Style, and a Stylus By David Pogue Source: The New York Times One person suggested a mouse with a "tracker ball" which is offered by Logitech. It's better designed than the traditional "track ball" and you maneuver the track ball with your thumb.. You can see it here: http://www.logitech.com/cf/products/productoverview.cfm/89 Thanks again to everyone for their responses! Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From duda at library.ucsb.edu Fri May 18 14:39:55 2001 From: duda at library.ucsb.edu (Andrea Duda) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:39 2005 Subject: Job Announcement, University of California Santa Barbara Message-ID: ASSOCIATE UNIVERSITY LIBRARIAN, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNICAL SERVICES The University of California, Santa Barbara, one of the nine campuses of the University of California system, invites applications and nominations for an Associate University Librarian, Information Technology and Technical Services. The AUL reports to the University Librarian and serves as member of the Library Administrative Group. Has line responsibility and provides leadership and management for the planning, development, implementation and assessment of the university libraries information systems and technical services departments. The AUL will head the library systems operations and will have direct responsibility for overseeing the online integrated system (currently installing the ExLibris Aleph system), local area network (450 public and staff workstations), desktop applications, library's web site, digital library initiatives, hardware and software installation, operation, and maintenance and all library related telecommunication services. The incumbent will also provide leadership and management for the technical services departments including acquisitions, cataloging, database maintenance, preservation, and serials management. H/she will direct the development, implementation, and evaluation of innovative tools, methods, and strategies for use in acquiring, cataloging, and processing materials. Works with managers and supervisors to establish goals, sets priorities, and is responsible for the overall planning, resource allocation and administration of the technical services division. The combined technical services departments and the systems operations include approximately 60 FTE and a host of student and limited appointment employees. MLS from an ALA accredited program. Record of responsible leadership and management experience in information technology and/or technical services. Knowledge of one or more areas of technical services (cataloging, acquisitions, serials). Successful supervisory experience in a complex environment as well as demonstrated decision making, problem solving ability, and planning skills. Demonstrated knowledge, experience and management of networked environments, integrated library systems, web architecture, hardware and software applications, servers, and telecommunication systems. Strong user centered approach to technical services and information technology. Excellent oral, written, and interpersonal communication skills, including the ability to communicate technical information clearly and effectively. Ability to work in a team environment. A demonstrated commitment and sensitivity to diversity in the workplace. Salary commensurate with experience and qualifications. Consideration of applications begins August 1, 2001 and continue until the position is filled. Send resume, and names and addresses of three references to: Detrice Bankhead, Associate University Librarian, Human Resources, Davidson Library, University of California, Santa Barbara, CA 93106. Complete job announcement available at: http://www.library.ucsb.edu/depts/lpo/ The University of California is an AA/EOE committed to diversity in the workplace and invites applications from candidates who can contribute in this area. From bennetttm at appstate.edu Mon May 21 09:08:33 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] VGA signal boosters In-Reply-To: <3AFC4368.139AD373@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Message-ID: Belkin makes a VGA Monitor Extender we purchased to amplify the signal. I have no idea of the price or supplier off hand but a search for vga monitor extender or Belkin may bring up the results on the WEB. The Belkin VGA ME has a single input and a single output. Cyberguys has a splitter of 1-to-2, 1-to-4, and 1-to-8 starting at 47.20 and each will transmit up to 210 feet they advertise. Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Tom Edelblute Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 3:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] VGA signal boosters In our computer lab we have a VGA video splitter so we can divide the signal from the instructors PC to go to the Instructors monitor, a projection device and a 34 inch monitor. The problem we currently have is that with the 34 inch monitor on the oposite side of the room, we are running a very long video extension where the signal is being degraded. I have not found anything in the way of video boosting technologies like I currently have with my cable television. Is there any signal boosting devices that anyone is using with a VGA plug? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Edelblute Public Access Systems Coordinator Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us From cbailey at uh.edu Mon May 21 10:35:44 2001 From: cbailey at uh.edu (Charles W. Bailey, Jr.) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: library newsletters on the web? Message-ID: <200105211446.JAA08457@Bayou.UH.EDU> Try Academic Library Newsletters in the United States: http://libaxp.hartford.edu/llr/alinusin.htm Best Regards, Charles Charles W. Bailey, Jr., Assistant Dean for Systems, University of Houston, Library Administration, 114 University Libraries, Houston, TX 77204-2000. E-mail: cbailey@uh.edu. Voice: (713) 743-9804. Fax: (713) 743-9811. http://info.lib.uh.edu/cwb/bailey.htm From bennetttm at appstate.edu Mon May 21 11:12:20 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lizard Tech has a product that I learned about in the December 2000 issue of _Professional Surveyor_ Vol. 20, number 11. In this article the National Land Survey of Sweden (NLS)sought "Internet Solutions for Archived Documents" for more than 50 million documents. An additional requirement was that file size had to be kept to a minimum for fast transfers. "After considering a variety of options for reducing the file size of the archived documents, NLS selected LizardTech's DjVu technology for the [pilot] Stockholm project." Files were converted from tiff G4 to DjVu. A plugin is required fro the WEB Browser. While all their software is not free, there are some free downloads that will probably give you an idea of its capabilities. Thomas Below is a(n) (auto?) response from Lizard Tech after I downloaded some free software from them. ********************************************** ********************************************** Since you've downloaded one or more of our products in the past, you're probably familiar with the benefits of MrSID for images and DjVu for documents, as well as their incredibly small file sizes. There's more to come as LizardTech continues to develop software that optimizes bandwidth usage and makes it easier to view, store, print and distribute high-quality digital images and scanned documents. The free downloads linked here are just two examples of the kind of developments we'd like to keep you informed about. DjVu ActiveX Control for Microsoft? Office http://www.lizardtech.com/cgi-bin/products/desc.pl?tsb=1711232 Open and use your DjVu documents inside Word, Excel and PowerPoint. DjVu Release Script for Kofax Ascent Capture 4.0 http://www.lizardtech.com/products/utilities/kofax.html Route documents being scanned through DjVu Enterprise 3.0 for output directly into DjVu format If you'd like to receive updates and special offers, go to: http://www.lizardtech.com/cgi-bin/contact/sign-up.pl?email=bennetttm@appstat e.edu If you would prefer that we did not contact you again by email, do nothing. Either way, we thank you for using LizardTech products! ********************************************** ********************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Victoria Woodworth-Lynas Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Does anyone out there have any names of software companies that manufacture software for creating digitial libraries, preferrably relatively inexpensive ones? I am currently working with a company that is researching digital libraries in order to begin its own implementation of such technology. The library is going to be used on our own intranet and is to have restricted access even to employees. If anyone has any information pertaining to this, PLEASE email me. Cheers, Victoria Woodworth-Lynas mailto:victoriawl@guigne.com From lilsalem at jasper.uor.edu Mon May 21 13:52:05 2001 From: lilsalem at jasper.uor.edu (salem) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: LACASIS Event: Information Architecture: Practice & Perils Message-ID: LOS ANGELES CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR INFORMATION SCIENCE Be A Part Of It All... June Business Meeting and Program INFORMATION ARCHITECTURE: PRACTICE AND PERILS Speakers: Jason Binford, Information Designer, IBM Lynn Boyden, Lead Information Architect, Rare Medium Chris Chandler, Information Architect At-Large This panel of practicing information architects shares a wide variety of work experiences. Our speakers will provide an overview of their field and address some hot issues and challenges that face information architects and web designers today. Prior to this program will be a brief general business meeting. We encourage members and non-members alike to come and hear more about LACASIS activities. The site of our meeting is the historic and recently restored Culver Hotel, in the "Heart of Screenland". Formerly owned by John Wayne, it is where the Munchkins of the Wizard of Oz stayed when making the film. Date: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 Location: The Culver Hotel Culver City, CA Time: 6:00pm Networking & Social Hour 6:30pm Buffet dinner 7:30 pm Business Meeting 7:45 pm Program Dinner Cost: ASIS Members $26.00 Non-Members $28.00 Students $23.00 RSVP BY: June 22, 2001 Directions and parking information: The Culver Hotel, 9400 Culver Blvd. Culver City, CA 90232. Please consult http://www.maps.com/ or http://www.mapquest.com/ for detailed driving directions. Free parking is available in the city parking lot behind the hotel. If you have any registration questions, please contact Amy Wallace by email at amy.wallace@rocky.claremont.edu or by phone at (909) 607-7957. Reservations: Send this form and payment to: Amy Wallace Honnold Mudd Library 800 N. Dartmouth Claremont, CA 91711 or Register Online: http://www.lacasis.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Make check payable to: LACASIS NAME/AFFLIATION _____________________________________________________________________________ ADDRESS:_____________________________________________________________________ DAYTIME PHONE:_______________________ E-MAIL ADDRESS: ___________________ LACASIS MEMBER: Y N STUDENT: Y N AMOUNT ENCLOSED: _________ From GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV Mon May 21 14:26:23 2001 From: GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV (Masters, Gary E) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: Acrobat document - print disabled Message-ID: Has anyone had any success in printing Acrobat document with the print feature disabled. I have an idea about the security password but don't know how to address it to the program. Or are there any cut and paste methods that work. Is it a violation of copyright to try this? If so, I won't. Thanks, Gary Gary E. Masters Librarian (Systems) CDRH - FDA (301) 827-6893 From wellsat at MAIL.LIB.MSU.EDU Mon May 21 14:48:57 2001 From: wellsat at MAIL.LIB.MSU.EDU (Amy Tracy Wells) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: RUSA/LAMA: Having it All? Work and Family Message-ID: <31D68DFD51F1D011B2F7006097B918C6040EBA78@mail.lib.msu.edu> Program Title: RUSA/LAMA: Having it All? Work and Family Date: Saturday, June 16th, 2001 Location: Moscone, Rooms 250-262 Program Description: Balancing the competing demands of work and family is for many the most difficult challenge of our professional career. Whether the demands are related to having a child(ren), or caring for a spouse or partner, or an aging parent, our family/work decisions have long-term significance. The issues involve income, retirement, and professional security; part-time and non-standard work arrangements vs. full-time; family leave; acceptance at home and at work; and self-identity. "Having it All?" will present in a speaker format the personal, professional, and on-going decisions and reflections of four librarians along with some critical background and context on family/work issues. Speakers will give a chronology of their family and career, discuss their decisions and how they try to achieve a balance, as well as how their personal experiences have informed their own decisions as managers. Speakers: Karen Diaz, User Education Librarian for Internet Instruction, Ohio State University; Karen Muller, Knowledge Manager, ALA; Peggy Seiden, College Librarian, Swarthmore College; and Tom Wilding, Director of Libraries, University of Texas at Arlington. Please join us! Amy Tracy Wells, Co-Chair Pam Sieving, Co-Chair *** Amy Tracy Wells 100 Library Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 48823 wellsat@msu.edu (V) 517.432.9857 (F) 517.432.8050 From esche_ma at oaklandlibrary.org Mon May 21 15:18:43 2001 From: esche_ma at oaklandlibrary.org (Margaret Escherich) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: SunOS/BoxPoison virus In-Reply-To: <3B7104134F9BD311BEB80050041F8CE0013E4BA9@lva.lib.va.us> Message-ID: Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... Margaret Escherich Senior Librarian/Webmistress Oakland Public Library http://oaklandlibrary.org > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Julie James > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:23 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: SunOS/BoxPoison virus > > > It's a worm > http://vil.nai.com/vil/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99085 > " > Method Of Infection > Infected machines scan random IP addresses looking for other systems to > infect. When one is found, a buffer overflow exploit is used to compromise > that computer which then propagates the virus as well. > " > ~~~ > Julie James > Technology Consultant > The Library of Virginia > 804/692-0800 > jjames@lva.lib.va.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Pugh > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: 5/19/01 2:54 PM > Subject: [WEB4LIB] SunOS/BoxPoison virus > > Bad News Bears! We were hit with the SunOS/BoxPoison vius on our Dynix > WebPac server. Our virus scanner caught it before any real damage. I > have > checked the McAfee and the CERT advisory and I still don't understand > how > this virus is spread. I did not pay great attention to the bulletin I > received because we use NT and not Sun. It appears we needed a patch for > > our IIS and that is now fixed. But how does this thing work, where did > it > spread from? > > > Mary Pugh Orcas Island Library District > Network Administrator 500 Rose Street > 360.376.4985 Eastsound, WA 98245 > 360.376.5750 fax www.orcaslibrary.org From dan at riverofdata.com Mon May 21 15:45:24 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: SunOS/BoxPoison virus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <368024508.20010521134524@riverofdata.com> http://vil.nai.com/vil/virusSummary.asp?virus_k=99085 tells how it spreads from Solaris (7 or earlier, unpatched) to IIS. Although this is new (last 13 days), the Solaris vulnerability goes back to late 99, according to Sun. We've checked our Sun box and it isn't contaminated, but it did hit http://lester.boisestate.edu/ yesterday. I've left an affected page up at http://lester.boisestate.edu/images/ Basically, it puts a new, identical page to that shown in every occupied directory under your IIS root web, putting copies in as index.htm, index.asp, default.htm, and default.asp, thus covering all the bases that most boxes would use. I left the nasty page in the images directory since no one would ever put a page there anyway. The fixes are relatively simple (replacing pages from backup) and there is no apparent contamination to the IIS server. But those running Solaris should check carefully, as after it hits 2000 IIS servers it then trashes index pages on the Sun box too. And some ask why I support capital punishment..... And why I'm about to put ZoneAlarm or something on the boxes in question. Suggestions for the firewall? cheers dan Monday, May 21, 2001, 1:19:15 PM, you wrote: ME> Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... ME> Margaret Escherich ME> Senior Librarian/Webmistress ME> Oakland Public Library ME> http://oaklandlibrary.org >> -----Original Message----- >> From: web4lib@webjunction.org >> [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Julie James >> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:23 PM >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: SunOS/BoxPoison virus >> >> >> It's a worm >> http://vil.nai.com/vil/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99085 >> " >> Method Of Infection >> Infected machines scan random IP addresses looking for other systems to >> infect. When one is found, a buffer overflow exploit is used to compromise >> that computer which then propagates the virus as well. >> " >> ~~~ >> Julie James >> Technology Consultant >> The Library of Virginia >> 804/692-0800 >> jjames@lva.lib.va.us >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary Pugh >> To: Multiple recipients of list >> Sent: 5/19/01 2:54 PM >> Subject: [WEB4LIB] SunOS/BoxPoison virus >> >> Bad News Bears! We were hit with the SunOS/BoxPoison vius on our Dynix >> WebPac server. Our virus scanner caught it before any real damage. I >> have >> checked the McAfee and the CERT advisory and I still don't understand >> how >> this virus is spread. I did not pay great attention to the bulletin I >> received because we use NT and not Sun. It appears we needed a patch for >> >> our IIS and that is now fixed. But how does this thing work, where did >> it >> spread from? >> >> >> Mary Pugh Orcas Island Library District >> Network Administrator 500 Rose Street >> 360.376.4985 Eastsound, WA 98245 >> 360.376.5750 fax www.orcaslibrary.org -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Mon May 21 15:47:19 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: Security Holes on IIS References: Message-ID: <3B0970C7.B53FA7DB@tln.lib.mi.us> If you are an administrator of a Microsoft NT 4 box running IIS 4.0, I highly recommend that at the minimum, you should be aware of the following resources: 1) The Microsoft Security site with information on the latest patches for IIS here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/ If you have not been keeping up with the security patches that have been released for IIS, you are in luck as Microsoft has released a comprehensive patch for IIS to address almost all of the patches released since SP5. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-026.asp 2) Microsoft makes it easy for you so that you can receive Security bulletings automatically as soon as they are released: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/notify.asp 3) You should read this security checklist for IIS 4.0 to help you eliminate other security vulnerabilities. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/iischk.asp While none of this will guarantee that you won't be attacked, hacked or otherwise compromised, it will at least save one the embarassment of trying to explain to the Boss why the server was hacked through a hole that has been public knowledge for a number of months. It has been our experience from checking our server logs and dealing with some minor hacks that if your server is accessible to the public, you can expect it to be under continuous attack from various hacking-types around the world. Most of them don't seem to know what they are doing but don't make it easy for them. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Margaret Escherich wrote: > Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... > > Margaret Escherich > Senior Librarian/Webmistress > Oakland Public Library > http://oaklandlibrary.org > From dbell at loc.gov Mon May 21 16:00:51 2001 From: dbell at loc.gov (danna bell-russel) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: Announcement of New Ameritech Collections on American Memory Message-ID: <3B0973F3.2F080F9C@loc.gov> With a gift from Ameritech in 1996, the Library of Congress sponsored a three-year competition ending in 1999 to enable public, research, and academic libraries, museums, historical societies, and archival institutions (except federal institutions) to create digital collections of primary resources. These digital collections complement and enhance the collections of the National Digital Library Program at the Library of Congress. The most recent additions to the Ameritech collections available online are Edward S. Curtis's The North American Indian: Photographic Images and Emergence of Advertising in America, 1850-1920: Selections from the Collections of Duke University The Northwestern University Library has made available images from The North American Indian by Edward S. Curtis, one of the most significant and controversial representations of traditional American Indian culture ever produced. Issued in a limited edition from 1907-1930, the publication continues to exert a major influence on the image of Indians in popular culture. Curtis said he wanted to document "the old time Indian, his dress, his ceremonies, his life and manners." In over 2000 photogravure plates and narrative, Curtis portrayed the traditional customs and lifeways of eighty Indian tribes. The twenty volumes, each with an accompanying portfolio, are organized by tribes and culture areas encompassing the Great Plains, Great Basin, Plateau Region, Southwest, California, Pacific Northwest, and Alaska. Featured here are all of the published photogravure images including over 1500 illustrations bound in the text volumes, along with over 700 portfolio plates. An Advisory Board of educators and researchers in American Indian history and culture helped to recommend means of setting the work of Curtis in context, including soliciting essays by well-known scholars, addressing questions of how Curtis worked, what his work has meant to Native peoples of North America, and how he promoted the view dominant in the early twentieth century, that American Indians were becoming a "vanishing race." The collection can be viewed at < http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/award98/ienhtml/curthome.html> The Emergence of Advertising in America, 1850-1920 presents over 9,000 images relating to the early history of advertising in the United States. The images are drawn from over a dozen separate collections in the Hartman Center for Sales, Advertising & Marketing History, one of the nation's pre-eminent programs for the study of sales, advertising, and marketing, and the Rare Book, Manuscript, and Special Collections Library at Duke University. Included in this collection are cookbooks, photographs of billboards, print advertisements, trade cards, calendars, almanacs, and leaflets for a multitude of products. Highlights include early advertisements from Kodak and Lux, materials documenting the first tobacco advertising and scrapbooks showing a variety of advertising media. Together, they illuminate the early evolution of this most ubiquitous feature of modern American business and culture. The collection also documents the rise of consumer culture and the development of a professionalized advertising industry in the United States. Of special interest to those studying the development of the advertising industry are textbooks and other instruction resources used to provide instruction in developing advertising campaigns and the creation of advertising agencies. This collection can be viewed at Those interested in learning about the Ameritech competition, the awards made in each of the three years for which the competition ran, and the guidelines that were given to applicants can locate information at the following url: Please send any questions to ndlpcoll@loc.gov From cagimon at mplib.org Mon May 21 16:20:38 2001 From: cagimon at mplib.org (Gimon, Charles A) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: FW: [WEB4LIB] Security Holes on IIS Message-ID: Note that a lot of the known holes in IIS have historically involved either the IIS online (web-based) Admin system or Front Page extensions. Disabling or removing those can solve a lot of problems in one swoop--and possibly avoid future ones as well. Most of the unsuccessful "script kiddie" attacks that we see here involve the iisadmin stuff. --Charles Gimon Web Coordinator Minneapolis Public Library > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Mutch [mailto:amutch@waterford.lib.mi.us] > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Security Holes on IIS > > > If you are an administrator of a Microsoft NT 4 box running > IIS 4.0, I highly > recommend that at the minimum, you should be aware of the > following resources: > > 1) The Microsoft Security site with information on the latest > patches for IIS > here: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/ If you have not been keeping up with the security patches that have been released for IIS, you are in luck as Microsoft has released a comprehensive patch for IIS to address almost all of the patches released since SP5. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-026.asp 2) Microsoft makes it easy for you so that you can receive Security bulletings automatically as soon as they are released: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/notify.asp 3) You should read this security checklist for IIS 4.0 to help you eliminate other security vulnerabilities. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/iischk.asp While none of this will guarantee that you won't be attacked, hacked or otherwise compromised, it will at least save one the embarassment of trying to explain to the Boss why the server was hacked through a hole that has been public knowledge for a number of months. It has been our experience from checking our server logs and dealing with some minor hacks that if your server is accessible to the public, you can expect it to be under continuous attack from various hacking-types around the world. Most of them don't seem to know what they are doing but don't make it easy for them. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Margaret Escherich wrote: > Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... > > Margaret Escherich > Senior Librarian/Webmistress > Oakland Public Library > http://oaklandlibrary.org > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon May 21 16:21:34 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: SunOS/BoxPoison virus References: Message-ID: <017601c0e233$e2dc9410$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Escherich" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:20 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: SunOS/BoxPoison virus > Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... > Our jobs keep all of us busy, sysadmins no less than others, but it's hard to believe how easily this worm got around when it depended on a SunOS bug that was patched in December 1999 and an IIS bug that was patched in October 2000. I also find it hard to believe that the library world (or anyone, actually) uses IIS almost as frequently as Apache; but if you're going to use a program that's a hack magnet, at least keep on top of the patches. And lest the Apache admins chuckle too loudly, I also can't believe the number of library web servers that run versions of Apache that are years behind--especially considering the security fixes Apache puts in from version to version. My current survey from Libweb shows only about a quarter of library Apache sites are within the most recent three releases of the software (1.3.19, 1.3.17, or 1.3.14). Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From raywood at magma.ca Mon May 21 21:21:17 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Acrobat document - print disabled In-Reply-To: ; from GEM@CDRH.FDA.GOV on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:27:29AM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010521202117.A370@magma.ca> IIRC there is an app call xpdf that makes its source code freely available. Although this app honours PDF printing functionality restrictions, etc., I am given to understand that it would not be *too* difficult to modify the source code to bypass these restrictions. That's about all I know at the moment =) Raymond On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 11:27:29AM -0700, Masters, Gary E wrote: > Has anyone had any success in printing Acrobat document with the print > feature disabled. I have an idea about the security password but don't know > how to address it to the program. Or are there any cut and paste methods > that work. > > Is it a violation of copyright to try this? > > If so, I won't. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > > > > Gary E. Masters > Librarian (Systems) > CDRH - FDA > (301) 827-6893 > From wiggins at mail.com Mon May 21 20:26:37 2001 From: wiggins at mail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:43 2005 Subject: Acrobat document - print disabled Message-ID: <389265419.990491197708.JavaMail.root@web394-mc> Hmmm.... Good question. I'm not sure you can answer this in the abstract. If you have rights to view the content on screen, my guess is you can print it, or take a digital photo of it, or dictate it into your voice recorder. On the other hand, if you take something you had rights for one individual to view, and print 1000 copies for mass distribution, that'd seem to be a whole 'nother question. A possibly more important issue: would it specifically violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's provisions against reverse engineering to defeat a digital copy protection scheme? As I understand it, that section of the law doesn't look at rights or intent, it just proscribes behaviors that defeat protection schemes. These would be really good questions for the CNI Copyright mailing list... /rich Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:26:23 -0400 From: "Masters, Gary E" To: "'web4lib@webjunction.org'" Subject: Acrobat document - print disabled Has anyone had any success in printing Acrobat document with the print feature disabled. I have an idea about the security password but don't know how to address it to the program. Or are there any cut and paste methods that work. Is it a violation of copyright to try this? If so, I won't. Thanks, Gary __________________________________________________ Richard Wiggins Consulting, Writing & Training on Internet Topics http://www.netfact.com/rww wiggins@mail.com 517-349-6919 (home office) 517-353-4955 (work) ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue May 22 09:50:58 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: Microsoft Access and webpages Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4C2@mail1.morrisville.edu> I am taking Not Just Cows and inputting it into an Access database. Eventually it will be a database driven site, with pages generated on the fly. Right now I am creating webpages form it by doing reports and exporting the results. The problem I am having is that Access wants to create a separate webpage for each record in the database. How do I get rid of page breaks in my report? Any ideas or suggestions? I am unable to find anything in the help for Access or on the Microsoft website. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From MMelia at iona.edu Tue May 22 10:26:09 2001 From: MMelia at iona.edu (Melia, Michele) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: IE and pdf Message-ID: <63AAC79ACC12D311B1100060081EF9E7E2601A@ionanrmail1.iona.edu> I've encountered a problem viewing electronic database articles in pdf format when using Internet Explorer (specifically, with Ebsco databases). IE does work with pdf when viewing documents on a general web site. Can anyone help me correctly configure IE? I am using IE 5.0 on a Windows 98 platform with Acrobat Reader 4.0. Thanks for your help! Michele Melia Michele Melia Coordinator of Information Access/Library Technology Iona College, Helen T. Arrigoni Library/Technology Center 715 North Avenue, New Rochelle, NY 10801 914.633.2000x4248 mmelia@iona.edu From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Tue May 22 10:40:36 2001 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: IE and pdf Message-ID: <010522104036.50a03@sals.edu> >I've encountered a problem viewing electronic database articles in pdf >format when using Internet Explorer (specifically, with Ebsco databases). IE >does work with pdf when viewing documents on a general web site. Can anyone >help me correctly configure IE? I am using IE 5.0 on a Windows 98 platform >with Acrobat Reader 4.0. Are you sure you have 5.0 and not 5.01? We also had this problem, and I believe it was one of the lesser-known bugs (as opposed to say, the NoRun problem) fixed in 5.01 Service Pack 1. These days you should probably just upgrade to 5.5. There was some problem with extremely long URLs, which are common in these periodical services. Should that not be an option for you, Ebsco tech support told me to go into Acrobat's Preferences | General menu and uncheck the "Web Browser Integration" box. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From jaiyef at yahoo.com Tue May 22 11:10:26 2001 From: jaiyef at yahoo.com (Jaiye Fagbemi) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] In-Reply-To: <010522104036.50a03@sals.edu> Message-ID: <20010522151026.43287.qmail@web10707.mail.yahoo.com> Hello guys, I was just wondering if any one knows of any opening for an entry level QA/Software Tester Analyst. i just completed one and a half year Software Testing Training and now a certified QA/Software Tester. I'm currently based in the Northwest Surburb of Chicago, but also looking for an opening in Atlanta area. Thanks a lot guys. JayneFagbs Jaiyef@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions $2 Million Sweepstakes - Got something to sell? ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From mgroff at sylvia.Harvard.EDU Tue May 22 11:20:21 2001 From: mgroff at sylvia.Harvard.EDU (Melissa Groff) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: Job Posting: E-Journal Archiving Project Manager, Harvard Message-ID: <4.1.20010522111932.00a7eec0@hulmail.harvard.edu> Position Title: E-Journal Archiving Project Manager Harvard University Library, Office for Information Systems The Office for Information Systems in the Harvard University Library provides large-scale systems support to the libraries at Harvard. This involves supporting HOLLIS, the integrated library system, as well as providing public access to a wide variety of information resources located both at Harvard and elsewhere through HOLLIS Plus, a web-based information system. For more information, see Library Digital Initiative web site http://hul.harvard.edu/ldi/. Duties & Responsibilities: Reporting to the Manager of the Digital Library Program in the Harvard University Library’s Office for Information Systems, the position has responsibility for creating a grant proposal to develop a major program in e-journal archiving. The project manager will work with a steering committee to develop functional and business requirements for the archive, and with a technical team to develop system requirements, a technical architecture and implementation plan. Research in relevant archiving and e-journal publishing standards is an important aspect of the job, both in general and at other institutions. Works collaboratively with other institutions interested in e-journal archiving to develop specifications and discuss common issues. Communicates widely within Harvard and the digital library community about the initiative. Note: 2-year funded term appointment ending June 2003 with possibility of renewal. Required Education, Experience, Skills: Masters in Library Science or related degree, or equivalent experience required. Significant project management experience, and 5-8 years in systems analysis or development. Ability to function effectively as a team member in a consensus-driven environment. Strong verbal and written communication skills. Background in digital libraries, digital preservation, electronic journals, or archiving desirable. To apply: Send resume and cover letter to: Harvard University Employment Office, Resume Processing Center, Req. #9981, 11 Holyoke Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 or apply online at http://jobs.harvard.edu. EEO Statement: The Harvard University Library is committed to its policy of equal opportunity and affirmative action. Employment and advancement are based upon merit and availability without regard to race, color, creed, sex, sexual orientation, disability, national origin, or status as a disabled or Vietnam-era veteran. Melissa Groff Harvard University Library Wadsworth House Cambridge, MA 02138 ph 617/495-3650 fax 617/495-0370 From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Tue May 22 11:24:42 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IE and pdf References: <63AAC79ACC12D311B1100060081EF9E7E2601A@ionanrmail1.iona.edu> Message-ID: <005801c0e2d3$90aa4a70$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > I've encountered a problem viewing electronic database articles in pdf > format when using Internet Explorer (specifically, with Ebsco databases). IE > does work with pdf when viewing documents on a general web site. Can anyone > help me correctly configure IE? I am using IE 5.0 on a Windows 98 platform > with Acrobat Reader 4.0. > You don't actually say what the problem is, but the most likely bet is that IE displays a blank window. If so, this has been a known and apparently insoluble problem in IE for several versions, including 6.0b1. MS Knowledge Base article Q177321 attributes this to PDFs retrieved by POST requests in IE versions before 5.5. Article Q247663 attributes it to IE 5.01 receiving a PDF after a redirect and suggests installing IE5.01 service pack 1. In my experience, there is a more substantial problem with IE handling any PDF file when the HTTP request is not simply "GET http://somewhere.org/filename.pdf". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Also IME, IE has problems restarting the Acrobat plugin if you've opened and closed Acrobat standalone in the meantime. Upgrading or reinstalling the browser or the plugin may help, at least for a while. This might be a good reason to upgrade to Acrobat Reader 5.0 and IE 5.5. In all cases, you should be able to right-click on the link to the PDF file and select "Save Target As..." to save the PDF file for later standalone viewing. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From bspiers at mail.gcsu.edu Tue May 22 11:36:30 2001 From: bspiers at mail.gcsu.edu (Bonnie Spiers) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: ergonomic desk chair? Message-ID: Hi everyone, Can anyone recommend a good, sturdy ergonomic chair? Our reference desk setup is causing some problems, and we are looking for a better chair for both reference and computer use. Thanks for any recommendations! Bonnie Bonnie Spiers Electronic Services Librarian Russell Library From razl00 at yahoo.com Tue May 22 11:39:01 2001 From: razl00 at yahoo.com (stephanie spearman) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: IE and pdf In-Reply-To: <005801c0e2d3$90aa4a70$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <20010522153901.49164.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> We had a problem with pdfs when I completely disabled all Active X controls. That was several months ago. I had to give the users back some control in order to use IRS forms. I plan to look into this someday to see if that really was the problem or something else. Anyway, putting back some control worked. Stephanie Spearman Electronic Services Librarian NGRL --- Thomas Dowling wrote: > > I've encountered a problem viewing electronic > database articles in pdf > > format when using Internet Explorer (specifically, > with Ebsco > databases). IE > > does work with pdf when viewing documents on a > general web site. Can > anyone > > help me correctly configure IE? I am using IE 5.0 > on a Windows 98 > platform > > with Acrobat Reader 4.0. > > > > You don't actually say what the problem is, but the > most likely bet is > that IE displays a blank window. If so, this has > been a known and > apparently insoluble problem in IE for several > versions, including 6.0b1. > > MS Knowledge Base article Q177321 attributes this to > PDFs retrieved by > POST requests in IE versions before 5.5. Article > Q247663 attributes it to > IE 5.01 receiving a PDF after a redirect and > suggests installing IE5.01 > service pack 1. > > In my experience, there is a more substantial > problem with IE handling any > PDF file when the HTTP request is not simply "GET > http://somewhere.org/filename.pdf". Sometimes it > works, sometimes it > doesn't. Also IME, IE has problems restarting the > Acrobat plugin if > you've opened and closed Acrobat standalone in the > meantime. > > Upgrading or reinstalling the browser or the plugin > may help, at least for > a while. This might be a good reason to upgrade to > Acrobat Reader 5.0 and > IE 5.5. > > In all cases, you should be able to right-click on > the link to the PDF > file and select "Save Target As..." to save the PDF > file for later > standalone viewing. > > > Thomas Dowling > OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network > tdowling@ohiolink.edu > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From mmartin at fspl.lib.ar.us Tue May 22 11:44:48 2001 From: mmartin at fspl.lib.ar.us (Mary Martin) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: 28-modem Modem Bank Message-ID: <3B0A8970.6E072741@fspl.lib.ar.us> Hi everyone, I'm posting this message on behalf of my friend Beth, who runs an ISP in North Carolina. They have an old Microcom HDMS Plus Chassis with 28 modems that they have outgrown. She would like it to go to either a library or a school system who could use it. If you want it, all you would have to pay is shipping. She's put together a web page with pictures of the chassis and information about it, which can be viewed at: http://raq1.pinehurst.net/hdms.htm If you're interested in this, please contact her directly at admin@pinehurst.net to arrange shipping. Thanks! Mary Martin Fort Smith Public Library From ladyhawk at well.com Tue May 22 11:46:38 2001 From: ladyhawk at well.com (GraceAnne A. DeCandido) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ergonomic desk chair? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200105221547.IAA21628@smtp.well.com> Since 1994, I have used a Harter chair, first in an office and now in my home office. They are adjustable in many directions, and they have saved me from further bouts of debilitating RSI. They are also available in versions that serve very short people (I am just under five feet tall) and tall folk. I have no relationship with the company, but I have been recommending them for years. See http://www.harter.com GraceAnne DeCandido Bonnie Spiers sent an e-note on 22 May 01, about [WEB4LIB] ergonomic desk chair? > > Hi everyone, > > Can anyone recommend a good, sturdy ergonomic chair? > > Our reference desk setup is causing some problems, and we > are looking for a better chair for both reference and > computer use. > > Thanks for any recommendations! > > Bonnie > > Bonnie Spiers > Electronic Services Librarian > Russell Library > GraceAnne A. DeCandido Blue Roses Consulting ~ Writing ~ Editorial ~ Web Content ~ New York City ~ ladyhawk@well.com http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/gadhome.html What's Ladyhawk reading now? http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/books.html the net is just like everywhere else, only more so. From jkb at ix.netcom.com Tue May 22 12:00:31 2001 From: jkb at ix.netcom.com (Jim Barrentine) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ergonomic desk chair? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20010522115703.02da8470@popd.ix.netcom.com> At 08:35 AM 05/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Can anyone recommend a good, sturdy ergonomic chair? Well, if your budget will go to about $1,000 the top of the line is probably the Herman Miller Aeron. See http://www.hermanmiller.com/CDA/product/0,1469,c225-pss4-p8,00.html Jim James K. Barrentine Information Partners, Inc. Technology Solutions for Libraries 2697 Euclid Hts. Blvd. Suite 3 Cleveland, OH 44106-2828 216-371-2415 (voice) 216-932-4980 (fax) mailto:jkb@ix.netcom.com From DobbsA at apsu.edu Tue May 22 11:52:49 2001 From: DobbsA at apsu.edu (Dobbs, Aaron) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Security Holes on IIS Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE91E637@exchange.apsu.edu> Most importantly, don'tdo default installs. The majority of IIS security holes can be plugged by moving the install folder to a folder at a different "depth" from the root (C:\) and / or having the server redirect requests from the default web folder to a different folder. -Aaron :-)' -----Original Message----- From: Gimon, Charles A To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 5/21/01 3:15 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] FW: Security Holes on IIS Note that a lot of the known holes in IIS have historically involved either the IIS online (web-based) Admin system or Front Page extensions. Disabling or removing those can solve a lot of problems in one swoop--and possibly avoid future ones as well. Most of the unsuccessful "script kiddie" attacks that we see here involve the iisadmin stuff. --Charles Gimon Web Coordinator Minneapolis Public Library > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Mutch [mailto:amutch@waterford.lib.mi.us] > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Security Holes on IIS > > > If you are an administrator of a Microsoft NT 4 box running > IIS 4.0, I highly > recommend that at the minimum, you should be aware of the > following resources: > > 1) The Microsoft Security site with information on the latest > patches for IIS > here: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/ If you have not been keeping up with the security patches that have been released for IIS, you are in luck as Microsoft has released a comprehensive patch for IIS to address almost all of the patches released since SP5. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-026.asp 2) Microsoft makes it easy for you so that you can receive Security bulletings automatically as soon as they are released: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/notify.asp 3) You should read this security checklist for IIS 4.0 to help you eliminate other security vulnerabilities. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/iischk.asp While none of this will guarantee that you won't be attacked, hacked or otherwise compromised, it will at least save one the embarassment of trying to explain to the Boss why the server was hacked through a hole that has been public knowledge for a number of months. It has been our experience from checking our server logs and dealing with some minor hacks that if your server is accessible to the public, you can expect it to be under continuous attack from various hacking-types around the world. Most of them don't seem to know what they are doing but don't make it easy for them. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Margaret Escherich wrote: > Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... > > Margaret Escherich > Senior Librarian/Webmistress > Oakland Public Library > http://oaklandlibrary.org > From sdk at tampabay.rr.com Tue May 22 11:59:31 2001 From: sdk at tampabay.rr.com (Shirl Kennedy) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ergonomic desk chair? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010522115703.02da8470@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: Or $699 here: http://www.sit4less.com/ I got one for $649 via eBay. Shirl Kennedy Web Guide Topic Manager eCompany Now http://www.ecompany.com Got a DSL horror story? http://www.ecompany.com/comp/0,2107,181|102,00.html -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Jim Barrentine Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 11:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ergonomic desk chair? At 08:35 AM 05/22/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Can anyone recommend a good, sturdy ergonomic chair? Well, if your budget will go to about $1,000 the top of the line is probably the Herman Miller Aeron. See http://www.hermanmiller.com/CDA/product/0,1469,c225-pss4-p8,00.html Jim James K. Barrentine Information Partners, Inc. Technology Solutions for Libraries 2697 Euclid Hts. Blvd. Suite 3 Cleveland, OH 44106-2828 216-371-2415 (voice) 216-932-4980 (fax) mailto:jkb@ix.netcom.com From memort at earthlink.net Tue May 22 12:25:42 2001 From: memort at earthlink.net (Mary-Ellen Mort) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ergonomic desk chair? References: <4.2.2.20010522115703.02da8470@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <3B0A9306.BDAF97F3@earthlink.net> Jim Barrentine wrote: > Well, if your budget will go to about $1,000 the top of the line is > probably the Herman Miller Aeron. > > See http://www.hermanmiller.com/CDA/product/0,1469,c225-pss4-p8,00.html I have spent the last five years sitting at the computer trying to avoid injuries. A year and a half ago I decided I DESERVED an Aeron chair (based mostly on the buzz as opposed to personal sitting experience.) By calling around local (San Francisco) office furniture resale stores, I found a few who would take my name & call me when they got a used Aeron. I got one for $600 in good condition after only a wait of a week or two. Report after 547.5 days of sitting in it: It's a good chair but not the miracle I had hoped for at that price. I think to get the benefit of the chair's support you have to sit up rather straight. Plus the chair is designed so that you can't shift into odd positions easily--one leg under you or sitting forward. Perhaps this is all to the good as I expect those odd positions aren't good postures anyway... But I had HOPED the chair would be doing most of the work in keeping me straight and comfortable. I know that's unreasonable but at a list price of $1,000 I thought it might be true. The support mesh that makes up the chair is one of the selling points...what makes it different from other chairs. I find this mesh very good on the back, cool and comfortable in our low electricity use/warm temperatures. But the seat is less comfortable for me after a few hours (and 547.5 days)--it seems unduly hard. So now I am using a cushion on the seat of my Aeron. But the chair LOOKS very impressive...and at $600 is comparable to computer chairs I have purchased in the past. At $1,000 I'd have been very disappointed. Mary-Ellen Mort JobStar Director http:///jobstar.org From wbarnes at husky.bloomu.edu Tue May 22 12:25:06 2001 From: wbarnes at husky.bloomu.edu (William Barnes) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Security Holes on IIS Message-ID: Also if you remove all the default "applications" such as IISADMIN, IISADMPWD, IIS..., and MSDAC removed lots of holes. Finally, I found if you install more than you need, you set yourself up as well. Don't need SMTP? Don't install it. Don't need FTP? don't install it. Site server? Why ever install this? It seems to me that IIS defaults to "loose security", and Apache seems to defaults to "standard security." If you have Cold Fusion, make sure you delete that CFDOCs directory as well... Same deal as some of the IIS holes... Thanks! --Bill ******************************************* * Bill Barnes, RHCE, CNA, MCP, A+ * Library Network Administrator * Harvey A. Andruss Library * Bloomsburg University * ph: 570-389-2813 * e-mail: wbarnes@bloomu.edu ******************************************* >>> "Dobbs, Aaron" 05/22/01 11:58AM >>> Most importantly, don'tdo default installs. The majority of IIS security holes can be plugged by moving the install folder to a folder at a different "depth" from the root (C:\) and / or having the server redirect requests from the default web folder to a different folder. -Aaron :-)' -----Original Message----- From: Gimon, Charles A To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: 5/21/01 3:15 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] FW: Security Holes on IIS Note that a lot of the known holes in IIS have historically involved either the IIS online (web-based) Admin system or Front Page extensions. Disabling or removing those can solve a lot of problems in one swoop--and possibly avoid future ones as well. Most of the unsuccessful "script kiddie" attacks that we see here involve the iisadmin stuff. --Charles Gimon Web Coordinator Minneapolis Public Library > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Mutch [mailto:amutch@waterford.lib.mi.us] > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 2:48 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Security Holes on IIS > > > If you are an administrator of a Microsoft NT 4 box running > IIS 4.0, I highly > recommend that at the minimum, you should be aware of the > following resources: > > 1) The Microsoft Security site with information on the latest > patches for IIS > here: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/ If you have not been keeping up with the security patches that have been released for IIS, you are in luck as Microsoft has released a comprehensive patch for IIS to address almost all of the patches released since SP5. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-026.asp 2) Microsoft makes it easy for you so that you can receive Security bulletings automatically as soon as they are released: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/notify.asp 3) You should read this security checklist for IIS 4.0 to help you eliminate other security vulnerabilities. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/iischk.asp While none of this will guarantee that you won't be attacked, hacked or otherwise compromised, it will at least save one the embarassment of trying to explain to the Boss why the server was hacked through a hole that has been public knowledge for a number of months. It has been our experience from checking our server logs and dealing with some minor hacks that if your server is accessible to the public, you can expect it to be under continuous attack from various hacking-types around the world. Most of them don't seem to know what they are doing but don't make it easy for them. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Margaret Escherich wrote: > Ugh, just discovered we have gotten this, too.... > > Margaret Escherich > Senior Librarian/Webmistress > Oakland Public Library > http://oaklandlibrary.org > From goochm at kenyon.edu Tue May 22 12:32:50 2001 From: goochm at kenyon.edu (Mark Gooch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: Position: Librarian and Technology Consultant--Kenyon College Message-ID: <3B0A94B2.BCC35915@kenyon.edu> Librarian and Technology Consultant Kenyon College is searching for an information professional with skills and interests in supporting the library and the computing needs of faculty and students. We are especially interested in candidates with a background in social sciences, legal research, government documents, science, or mathematics. The selected candidate will work closely with faculty and students, doing collection development, teaching effective use of the library and technology, and promoting innovative applications of information literacy across the liberal arts. An MLS degree is preferred, but we welcome and will consider otherwise qualified candidates with interesting alternative credentials. Library and Information Services, an integrated information services division, meets the library, technology, and communications needs of the faculty, students, and administration of the College. We need people who are creative, energetic, interested and quick learners, and ambitious to play important and formative roles in an evolving, innovative, team-oriented organization. The starting salary will depend on qualifications and is negotiable. We welcome candidates with different backgrounds, experiences and skills, and with different levels of experience, and so the potential range of starting salary is quite wide. We want the best people, and we will compete to get them. Kenyon College is a highly selective, highly rated, national liberal arts college. Kenyon is the oldest private college in Ohio, and is particularly known for a literary tradition that includes the Kenyon Review. For much more information, and for instructions on how to apply, please visit our Web Page at http://www.kenyon.edu/access Review of applications will begin immediately and will continue until the position is filled. Applications received by June 15, 2001, will be guaranteed full consideration. An equal opportunity employer, Kenyon is committed to building a culturally diverse faculty, staff and administration. -- Mark D. Gooch Librarian and Technology Consultant Olin and Chalmers Libraries Kenyon College Gambier, Ohio 43022 Voice: (740) 427-5873 FAX: (740) 427-5272 goochm@kenyon.edu From kenausisv at WCSU.EDU Tue May 22 16:17:00 2001 From: kenausisv at WCSU.EDU (Veronica Kenausis) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: Position posting: Western CT State Univ, Danbury, CT Message-ID: <85256A54.006F6C0A.00@WCSU.EDU> Professional position: Library Systems Assistant Responsibilities - Under the supervision of the Electronic Systems Librarian, the incumbent performs the following duties in accordance with institutional and library policies and procedures in support of library information technology. Several of the specific duties include: supervises the operations of the library 's servers, including any web servers, print servers, etc.; maintains hardware (PCs, servers, printers, multimedia equipment), diagnoses malfunctions and performs preventative maintenance; plans, recommends, and supports hardware, software and multimedia additions and upgrades of the library systems, including evaluation, installation and troubleshooting; installs, configures and provides operational support for computer, network and multimedia applications used in delivery of library services; Provides technical support and training for staff use of computer applications in an academic environment. Qualifications - The successful candidate will possess a Bachelor's Degree in Computer Science, Systems Engineering, Information Systems or a closely related discipline, three years experience in a networked PC environment required. Experience with NT client and server software, MS Windows, MS Office suite, and multimedia development tools, knowledge of Internet and WWW are also required. Good oral and written communication skills and the ability to get along with people, work independently and engage in teamwork in a flexible changing work environment, and relate well to culturally diverse client population are also required Application process: - Send letter of application indicating which position you are applying for along with a resume, and three professional references by June 29, 2001 to Mr. Ralph Holibaugh, Director of Library Services, WCSU, 181 White Street, Danbury, CT 06810. WCSU is an AA/EEO Educator/Employer From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Tue May 22 20:47:28 2001 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: Off-topic postings Message-ID: Lately I've seen a number of messages that have very little or nothing to do with the list topic of web systems in libraries. I would like to remind everyone that your contributions, welcome as they are, must adhere to the Web4Lib Posting Policy, which you can see at: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/#Policy Rule One is that all postings must relate to the topic of the discussion. Putting "off-topic" in the subject line does not excuse abuse of the list. It is also not our collective problem that you wish to have access to a large group of library staff - if your message is not appropriate it shouldn't be posted. There are approximately 3,300 subscribers worldwide, and one of the reasons why this list continues to be popular is that it is focused. Those who repeatedly ignore the rules will be removed. Thank you for your cooperation, Roy Tennant Web4Lib Owner From cchick at earthlink.net Wed May 23 00:06:08 2001 From: cchick at earthlink.net (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:44 2005 Subject: LLRX Update - May 21, 2001 Message-ID: New on LLRX.com for May 21, 2001: http://www.llrx.com **LLRX Buzz http://www.llrx.com/buzz/buzz57.htm All Research Launches TrademarkTracker Air Safety Online Releases Report and crashDATABASE.com OMB Watch Assesses State Legislative Websites Carfax Adds Canadian Records to Database U.S. Tax Court Site Launched IntelliSeek Launches ProFusion.com ADA Offers Directory of Dentists in the USA **LLRX Featured Site: http://www.llrx.com Business 2.0 Research Center If you are looking for a wealth of free data on public companies, this site is a great place to begin, and perhaps even end, your search. Simply enter the ticker symbol for the company (a look up list is provided), click 'Go', and the site returns a list of available links, arranged by category, including: company profiles, press releases, financial data, quotes and charts, SEC filings, earnings reports, competitive intelligence, analyst recommendations, insider trading data, patents information, and company contact info. **LLRX Newstand http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm Use of Web for Motor Vehicle Services Accelerates Like the Tech Firms They Courted, Law Firms Feel the Pinch Supreme Court to Review Online Child Pornography Law As Revenues Fall, More Sites are Moving from Free to Fee Vivendi Universal Buying MP3.com in $372 Million Deal Lots New is On Deck for FirstGov Trade Group Says 37% of Business Software is Pirated Arbitrators: Aimster's a Cybersquatter **Tech Trends: http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm#TechTrends New Survey Dispels Myths On Citizen Engagement The Day I Got Napsterized New Site Out Goggles-Google with Added Search Engine Features A Front Row Seat As Amazon Gets Serious For Used Books, a Shelf in Cyberspace Adobe Co-Founder Says Media Integrating on Web Access vs. Excess: Use of Internet Filters Poses Thorny Question The End of Subject Specific Scout Reports Open-Source Browser Aim: No Limits Speednames Launches Intellectual Property Claim Service How to Squeeze More Into the Digital Attic CongressLine News: http://www.llrx.com/newstand/index.htm#CongressLine Congress, Critics Wrinkle Nose at Spam Bills Tech Leaders to Lawmakers: Don't Forget R&D Tax Credit Senator Kerry: Online Taxes, Privacy Changes Coming From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Wed May 23 09:29:24 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: Creating local content using database programs Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CC@mail1.morrisville.edu> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38C.62058770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38C.62058770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Heron Crossing by artist Peter R. Gerbert, from Cloudeight Wildlife II Stationery collection
 

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Wilfred (Bill) Drew
Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference
SUNY Morrisville College Library
E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu
BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/
Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/
Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/
Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/
Have Laptop -- Will Travel.
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''— George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38C.62058770-- ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Wed May 23 09:35:18 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: Creating local content for web Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CD@mail1.morrisville.edu> I am looking for better ways to create locally produced content for our website. Currently we can't mount any database driven functions on our web. That will change after our computer center people get more training. I am looking for a free or cheap database program that can be used to eventually create such content. I am finding that Access is too complicated and requires too much in the way of programming skills. I am after something that can be used now to create static pages that we will then move to the webserver. Access will create static pages but when a report is exported to the web each record from the database is made into a separate web page. I want the ability to create a single file. Any suggestions? The content we have is lists of resources as well as more substantial projects. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From MSomers at Harford.cc.md.us Wed May 23 10:27:11 2001 From: MSomers at Harford.cc.md.us (Mary Somers) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ergonomic desk chair? Message-ID: or this?? >>> "GraceAnne A. DeCandido" 05/22/01 11:50AM >>> Since 1994, I have used a Harter chair, first in an office and now in my home office. They are adjustable in many directions, and they have saved me from further bouts of debilitating RSI. They are also available in versions that serve very short people (I am just under five feet tall) and tall folk. I have no relationship with the company, but I have been recommending them for years. See http://www.harter.com GraceAnne DeCandido Bonnie Spiers sent an e-note on 22 May 01, about [WEB4LIB] ergonomic desk chair? > > Hi everyone, > > Can anyone recommend a good, sturdy ergonomic chair? > > Our reference desk setup is causing some problems, and we > are looking for a better chair for both reference and > computer use. > > Thanks for any recommendations! > > Bonnie > > Bonnie Spiers > Electronic Services Librarian > Russell Library > GraceAnne A. DeCandido Blue Roses Consulting ~ Writing ~ Editorial ~ Web Content ~ New York City ~ ladyhawk@well.com http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/gadhome.html What's Ladyhawk reading now? http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/books.html the net is just like everywhere else, only more so. From RL-Frasier at wiu.edu Wed May 23 10:33:57 2001 From: RL-Frasier at wiu.edu (bob frasier) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Creating local content for web References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CD@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <3B0BCA55.BFEC5491@wiu.edu> I'm moving some records systems that were originally created in Access to a MySQL database - I don't think there was much thought in selecting Access other than that the University has a site license & it was readily available. The motive for the change are essentially those that you mention. MySQL seems to handle everything that I've needed. I've switched from Perl DBI to PHP to build the web pages that access the MySQL database. PHP seems to work so well with web based documents and has a number of handy functions to interact with MySQL. It is relatively painless to build a user interface that has the look and feel of your library pages. There are a number of other possible approaches - but this seems to be a good solution for us. Bob Frasier Western Illinois University "Drew, Bill" wrote: > I am looking for better ways to create locally produced content for our > website. Currently we can't mount any database driven functions on our web. > That will change after our computer center people get more training. I am > looking for a free or cheap database program that can be used to eventually > create such content. I am finding that Access is too complicated and > requires too much in the way of programming skills. I am after something > that can be used now to create static pages that we will then move to the > webserver. Access will create static pages but when a report is exported to > the web each record from the database is made into a separate web page. I > want the ability to create a single file. Any suggestions? The content we > have is lists of resources as well as more substantial projects. > ___________________ > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu > BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ > Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ > Have Laptop -- Will Travel. > "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy > test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Wed May 23 10:52:07 2001 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt_Crawford@notes.rlg.org) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: Cites & Insights 1:6 now available Message-ID: Cites & Insights: Crawford at Large v. 1 no. 6 (June 2001) is now available, ready to be retrieved from the CI:CAL home page: http://cical.home.att.net This issue is 18 pages and includes: *You and Me and RLG *PC Values: June 2001 - including the new "One Good Configuration" *Trends and Quick Takes - nine items *Ebook Watch - catching up, 1: 14 items, five pages *Feedback and Following Up - including some of your mail *The Convergence Chronicles - five items *Bibs & Blather *Product Watch - eight items *Press Watch I - six items. Review Watch and Press Watch II should return in July. -walt crawford- From richard at goerwitz.com Wed May 23 11:01:58 2001 From: richard at goerwitz.com (Richard L. Goerwitz III) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web References: <3B0BCA55.BFEC5491@wiu.edu> Message-ID: <3B0BD0E6.D1D6C99@Goerwitz.COM> bob frasier wrote: > I've switched from Perl DBI to PHP to build the web pages that access the MySQL > database. The only caution here is that MySQL-specific functions are just that: MySQL-specific. One of the big reasons to go to a system like PHP or Embperl is that it's open, and generally more standards conformant than what you'd see in the commercial world. As soon as you start using MySQL-specific functions, you may find you aren't a whole lot better off than you'd gone with a Microsoft-only (or other proprietary) solution. If you know Perl already, have you tried Embperl? Embperl is a great server-side scripting language, like PHP. It's built on top of Perl, however, so you get to ride the coattails of a mature, general-purpose programming language - which isn't the case with PHP. I find I can teach Embperl to people who already know Perl in just two half-hour sessions. Within days they are able to use it fluently and productively. -- Richard Goerwitz richard@Goerwitz.COM tel: 401 438 8978 From korvinc at oclc.org Wed May 23 12:11:32 2001 From: korvinc at oclc.org (Korvin,Catherine) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: FW: 2 editorial positions at OCLC PAIS--NYC Message-ID: <69B539772492D311BC2800062950C94B2EAF8C@oapais1-server.remote.oclc.org> OCLC Public Affairs Information Service has openings for an Assistant Editor and for an Editorial Assistant in New York City. Thank you for helping us advertise these positions on Web4Lib. > ---------------------------------------- > > OCLC Online Computer > Library Center, Inc. > > Employment Opportunity > > OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. is an innovative, > high-tech library computer services > and research organization that creates state-of-the-art online > services and software used by more > than 37,000 libraries in 76 countries and territories around the > world. > > Assistant Editor > > REQUISITION: > #3800-R00304-00 > DIVISION: > Marketing & Planning > DEPARTMENT: > Public Affairs Information Service (PAIS) > LOCATION: > New York, NY > > > REQUIREMENTS: > > Masters degree in library or information science. > Knowledge of the social sciences and current events. > Knowledge of or experience in cataloging or subject > indexing. > Familiarity with database searching and the Internet. > Ability to write clearly and concisely in English. > Ability to utilize computer keyboard. > Reading knowledge of one or more languages (French, Spanish, > German, Italian, or > Portuguese). > Detail orientation and ability to concentrate. > > RESPONSIBILITIES: The assistant editor is responsible for the > selection, indexing, and > abstracting of print and electronic materials for the PAIS > International database. 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OCLC maintains an ongoing > commitment to equal opportunity and affirmative action, and seeks > to sustain a diverse workplace. > > Pre-employment Drug Screening Requirement. OCLC Online Computer > Library Center, Inc. has a vital interest > in maintaining safe, healthful and efficient working conditions > for its employees and members. Being under the > influence of illegal drugs poses a serious threat to the health > and safety of the user, and to others. Recognizing > this, all applicants considered for employment with the OCLC > Online Computer Library Center, Inc. > organization must successfully complete a drug screening > evaluation prior to employment. We appreciate your > concern and cooperation in this matter. > From ctuckerr at stmarys-ca.edu Wed May 23 12:24:18 2001 From: ctuckerr at stmarys-ca.edu (Caleb Tucker-Raymond) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: <3B0BD0E6.D1D6C99@Goerwitz.COM> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 May 2001, Richard L. Goerwitz III wrote: > The only caution here is that MySQL-specific functions are just that: > MySQL-specific. Isn't any database package going to need functions that are specific? I don't see any disadvantage. If you really don't want to learn programming, and depending on how cheap is cheap, go for Filemaker. At any rate, I'm into MySQL and PHP. They are widely used in generating dynamic content and the community is out there to answer your questions. They are also widely documented (see mysql.com and php.net). If you're just starting out, and if you're not generating dynamic content right away, I feel like PERL is a better choice. First of all, the PERL community is way larger than the PHP community. PERL is available for your PC (ActivePerl), Mac (MacPerl), various Linux/Unix servers, and anything else you can think of. In terms of starting out with generating static pages from dynamic content and then moving towards generating dynamic pages, you can start everything on your PC and later move your scripts to the server (and maybe use EmbPerl as Richard suggests) without too much editing. What I really like about PERL, and took for granted when I started working with PHP, is that you can run it from the command line. With PHP (and someone tell me how if I'm wrong about this), you have to do all your testing with your browser. If you go with PERL, get a book or two or three (or check them out of your library). Don't rely on the man pages unless you read them start to finish first and understand everything. Caleb T-R Electronic Systems Librarian St Marys College of Ca. From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Wed May 23 12:42:32 2001 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web References: Message-ID: <003f01c0e3a7$5ce37cf0$e84ae980@usask.ca> > Isn't any database package going to need functions that are specific? > I don't see any disadvantage. No. You can write SQL queries that will work against (almost) any SQL server. Or you can use queries that use database specific functions, then rewrite them all when you switch the backend from mSQL to MySQL to MS SQL to Oracle. There's the disadvantage. > If you really don't want to learn programming, and depending on how > cheap is cheap, go for Filemaker. [shudder] > If you're just starting out, and if you're not generating dynamic > content right away, I feel like PERL is a better choice. Maybe, although the syntax of PHP and Perl is very close. > PERL is available for your PC (ActivePerl), Mac (MacPerl), various > Linux/Unix servers, and anything else you can think of. So is PHP though. > What I really like about PERL, and took for granted when I started > working with PHP, is that you can run it from the command line. With > PHP (and someone tell me how if I'm wrong about this), you have to do > all your testing with your browser. This is true when PHP is compiled as a web server "module" (for Apache or any other web server that supports ISAPI, NSAPI etc). That's one of it's strengths; it's bundled into the web server, so it doesn't need to spawn a separate process when processing your script/page. However, the CGI version of PHP functions just like the external Perl parser (i.e. the server spawns the CGI version of PHP to process the page). You can also use the CGI version from the command line just like you would Perl. I've got both the module and CGI versions installed on our Digital Unix box. I use the CGI version for testing and for some scripts run through cron. Works pretty well. - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Education & Research Technology Services, http://gollum.usask.ca/ Department of Computing Services, University of Saskatchewan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes" From benjes at hsc.usc.edu Wed May 23 12:52:08 2001 From: benjes at hsc.usc.edu (Candice Benjes-Small) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: database solutions In-Reply-To: <200105231642.JAA17151@webjunction.org> Message-ID: We use a FileMakerPro/Lasso combination that works well for static pages. We had some problems with stability, but I believe that had more to do with unreliable hardware than with the software. We've outgrown our combination, but it was a very good introduction to the land of database-driven Web sites. Candice Benjes-Small Information Specialist Norris Medical Library University of Southern California benjes@usc.edu From bennetttm at appstate.edu Wed May 23 13:02:09 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas M G Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CD@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: Zope is free, runs on Linux, Windows, Solaris, Amiga, and maybe others. It contains its own database or you can use a database adapter to connect to PostgreSQL, MySQL, Oracle, ODBC, or Sybase (and maybe some others). SQL is limited by the database you choose. Although based on Python, I think the newest version supports external Perl scripts(maybe ActivePerl http://www.activestate.com ) in addition to external Python scripts. If you're running on Linux then PostgreSQL and MySQL are free to use. If I'm not mistaken, MySQL is not totally free to run on Windows (read the fine print) and I'm not sure about PostgreSQL on Windows. I have had success testing Zope with MySQL on an NT server and then moved to Linux and PostgreSQL. Support is great through the Zope and Zope-Dev lists. Thomas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Use The Help Desk at http://linux.library.appstate.edu/help ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant III University Library Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 2797 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Drew, Bill Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Creating local content for web I am looking for better ways to create locally produced content for our website. Currently we can't mount any database driven functions on our web. That will change after our computer center people get more training. I am looking for a free or cheap database program that can be used to eventually create such content. I am finding that Access is too complicated and requires too much in the way of programming skills. I am after something that can be used now to create static pages that we will then move to the webserver. Access will create static pages but when a report is exported to the web each record from the database is made into a separate web page. I want the ability to create a single file. Any suggestions? The content we have is lists of resources as well as more substantial projects. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From raywood at magma.ca Wed May 23 14:19:37 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: ; from ctuckerr@stmarys-ca.edu on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:25:14AM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010523131937.A1588@magma.ca> On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:25:14AM -0700, Caleb Tucker-Raymond wrote: > If you really don't want to learn programming, and depending on how cheap > is cheap, go for Filemaker. IMO, if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing well. Filemaker (and even Access for that matter) is a half-baked solution - really. > At any rate, I'm into MySQL and PHP. They are widely used in generating > dynamic content and the community is out there to answer your questions. > They are also widely documented (see mysql.com and php.net). I have to support this recommendation. These 2 are a very popular combination and would doubtless work very nicely unless you need a gigantically scaleable system. > If you're just starting out, and if you're not generating dynamic content > right away, I feel like PERL is a better choice. Again IMHO, the only time that I would recommend PERL over PHP specifically for database-driven web sites is if the developer *already* knew PERL. Otherwise, if you are starting from square one, PHP is surely the better choice of the two. [snip] My $0.02, Raymond From blayton at gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Wed May 23 14:19:21 2001 From: blayton at gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Beth A.Layton) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: New Posting: Electronic Resources/Web Services Coordinator Message-ID: The George Washington University Medical Center seeks an innovative librarian to serve as the manager of the Medical Center's Web Services. Under the direction of the Associate Vice President, Educational Resources, the incumbent will work with other Educational Resources' Departmental Directors and Medical Center and University leadership to coordinate and manage the Medical Center's web presence. In addition this position serves as a member of the Library's Operations Management Team and shares responsibility for the planning, coordination, and implementation of electronic information resources and overall coordination of the library's web pages. Medical Center Web responsibilities include: Manage Medical Center web site; point of contact for all GWUMC web inquiries Work closely with IT units to insure proper network and server operations Compile/evaluate statistics for web pages Work closely with Communication & Marketing staff who field webmaster questions Evaluate site's functionality/usability; make recommendations for improvement Chair Medical Center Web Advisory Committee Chair Distance Education Technical Support Group Administration of accounts on Medical Center Web Server Liaison to University's Web Advisory Committee Project Manager for outsource web contract Library responsibilities include: Develop web pages and databases to support library resources, programs, services Participate in Library's Electronic Resources Committee Acts as liaison to major vendors for electronic resources Track and document license agreements Troubleshoot network problems as they relate to web access Compile/evaluate usage statistics for web resources Evaluate web-based information resources Investigate new technologies for delivery of web-based resources Maintain current knowledge of web design and development 'tools' Train other professionals in use of new web tools Supervise the work of the Library's Publications Specialist Administration of Prometheus accounts Qualifications: MLS from an ALA accredited school; strong oral and written communication skills, including experience in group leadership and project management; extensive computer skills required including web page development, HTML toolkits and templates, Dreamweaver, Cold Fusion; database design and development; and networking experience. Position open; review of resumes will begin immediately. SALARY: $42,000 minimum. Excellent academic benefits, including tuition remission for employee and family, TIAA/CREF, health and life insurance, 21 days paid vacation. Please send letter of application and resume including the names of three references to: Shelley Bader, Associate Vice President, Educational Resources Himmelfarb Health Sciences Library 2300 Eye Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20037 mlbsab@gwumc.edu The George Washington University is an affirmative action, equal opportunity employer. From TSmith2 at lansing.cc.mi.us Wed May 23 14:36:35 2001 From: TSmith2 at lansing.cc.mi.us (TSmith2@lansing.cc.mi.us) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: Trixi Smith/Student Academic Support/LCC is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 05/21/2001 and will not return until 06/04/2001. I will respond to your message when I return. From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Wed May 23 14:58:57 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] database solutions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our experience seems similar. We've run a fairly large stable of Web services via FilemakerPro via Lasso. It seems to be an easy way to get started in this area. Though it remains useful for our current projects and we still use it to build short term projects such as surveys, we have been migrating to Zope/PostgreSQL for the last 1-2 years for newer and larger services. See http://libweb.ucsc.edu/ -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz At 9:52 AM -0700 5/23/01, Candice Benjes-Small wrote: >We use a FileMakerPro/Lasso combination that works well for static >pages. We had some problems with stability, but I believe that had more >to do with unreliable hardware than with the software. > >We've outgrown our combination, but it was a very good introduction to the >land of database-driven Web sites. > >Candice Benjes-Small >Information Specialist >Norris Medical Library >University of Southern California >benjes@usc.edu From phenriksen at earthlink.net Wed May 23 18:39:30 2001 From: phenriksen at earthlink.net (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: .tiff files from the Veteran's Admin. and our solution In-Reply-To: <20010523131937.A1588@magma.ca> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010523181322.00b39310@mail.earthlink.net> After having read the archives on .tiff files, I felt I had to contribute our library's solution: I came across our first .tiff file problem this afternoon with a patron using a Gates Foundation computer (Windows NT). I d/l'ed the file and took it to my office and opened it without problem in IrfanView, a freeware graphics viewer, which I had d/l'ed previously. IrfanView can be found at . It was recommended to me by a professor who teaches programming and (I've heard) has a master's degree in astrophysics. He thinks it's great software and in my very humble and limited view, I think it is, too. (Standard disclaimer here -- I do not know Irfan Skiljan, nor will I make even a cent from recommending his software.) Tomorrow, I will d/l Irfanview on all four of our Gates Foundation computers. No prob with .tiff files here. Phalbe Henriksen Director Bradford County Public Library Starke, FL "I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."--Jorge Luis Borges From jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu Wed May 23 18:58:30 2001 From: jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu (JQ Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: Creating local content for web Message-ID: >The only caution here is that MySQL-specific functions are just that: >MySQL-specific. PHP programmers should generally be using the PEAR DB module and database-independent functions, rather than the mysql-specific functions. That means giving up a bit of mysql-specific power, but not much (you'd be giving up a lot more power if you switched from Oracle or MS SQL Server native routines to a database abstraction layer). Database abstraction layers are also de rigeur for perl programmers. Does anyone use oraperl any more for new projects? I think most of us use DBI. The PEAR DB modules for PHP aren't as mature as DBI/DBD for perl, but they are getting there. One area where database abstraction layers tend to lose big time is in handling of stored procedures and triggers. I'd be interested in any code examples you sophisticated perl database programmers may have that access such features of the database engine. JQ Johnson Office: 115F Knight Library Academic Education Coordinator mailto:jqj@darkwing.uoregon.edu 1299 University of Oregon phone: 1-541-346-1746; -3485 fax Eugene, OR 97403-1299 http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jqj/ From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Wed May 23 19:09:03 2001 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: .tiff files from the Veteran's Admin. and our solution Message-ID: <010523190903.4a98f@sals.edu> >I came across our first .tiff file problem this afternoon with a patron >using a Gates Foundation computer (Windows NT). I d/l'ed the file and took >it to my office and opened it without problem in IrfanView, a freeware >graphics viewer, which I had d/l'ed previously. Could you tell us the location at va.gov where it showed TIFF images? I'd like to test my setup against them. In the ensuing months since the original discussion, I have had a chance to see how the Gates PCs handled TIFFs. On "our" PCs, I succeeded in tweaking QuickTime so that I was able to view patent images and the government documents scanned by our state library. On the Gates PCs, I installed AlternaTIFF (our viewer of choice) but left QuickTime off, as I didn't want to modify the Gates configuration more than necessary. For reasons which elude me, we can view patents but not New York state documents on our Gates PCs. This is probably caused by a fairly obscure setting, but the two sites also point out something else: all TIFFs are not created equal. When you view a Patent Office image, skipping between pages requires you to use the links in the left menu. AlternatTIFF's page number box is disabled. Images posted by the New York State Library, on the other hand, have this feature available. I suppose this means the USPTO creates one image per page, while NYSL uses a multipage format. It would be interesting to see how IrfanView handles these. My test URL is , because that's the one my patron wanted to view. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From phenriksen at earthlink.net Wed May 23 19:36:02 2001 From: phenriksen at earthlink.net (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: .tiff files and IrfanView In-Reply-To: <010523190903.4a98f@sals.edu> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010523192719.00b22980@mail.earthlink.net> The file the patron wanted is at: . I have no trouble opening it here at home with IrfanView. Phalbe Henriksen At 04:12 PM 5/23/2001 -0700, Robert Sullivan wrote: > >I came across our first .tiff file problem this afternoon with a patron > >using a Gates Foundation computer (Windows NT). I d/l'ed the file and took > >it to my office and opened it without problem in IrfanView, a freeware > >graphics viewer, which I had d/l'ed previously. > >Could you tell us the location at va.gov where it showed TIFF images? I'd >like >to test my setup against them. > >In the ensuing months since the original discussion, I have had a chance to >see how the Gates PCs handled TIFFs. On "our" PCs, I succeeded in tweaking >QuickTime so that I was able to view patent images and the government >documents >scanned by our state library. > >On the Gates PCs, I installed AlternaTIFF (our viewer of choice) but left >QuickTime off, as I didn't want to modify the Gates configuration more than >necessary. For reasons which elude me, we can view patents but not New York >state documents on our Gates PCs. > >This is probably caused by a fairly obscure setting, but the two sites also >point out something else: all TIFFs are not created equal. > >When you view a Patent Office image, skipping between pages requires you >to use >the links in the left menu. AlternatTIFF's page number box is disabled. >Images >posted by the New York State Library, on the other hand, have this feature >available. I suppose this means the USPTO creates one image per page, while >NYSL uses a multipage format. > >It would be interesting to see how IrfanView handles these. My test URL is >, because that's the one >my patron wanted to view. From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Wed May 23 20:06:01 2001 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: .tiff files and IrfanView Message-ID: <010523200601.4a98f@sals.edu> >The file the patron wanted is at: >. I have no trouble opening >it here at home with IrfanView. Works fine with AlternaTIFF. I see it's one of those multipage images. BTW, Phalbe has informed me that the NYSL link I gave doesn't retrieve anything. It worked a few days ago...maybe it will again if you're reading this later. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From richard at goerwitz.com Wed May 23 20:21:12 2001 From: richard at goerwitz.com (Richard L. Goerwitz III) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web References: Message-ID: <3B0C53F8.A152F102@Goerwitz.COM> JQ Johnson wrote: > One area where database abstraction layers tend to lose big time is in > handling of stored procedures and triggers. I'd be interested in any code > examples you sophisticated perl database programmers may have that access > such features of the database engine. It's interesting that you bring this up. I think the kinds of ab- stractions you'd normally create with stored procedures and triggers are normally implemented, in the Perl world (at least where possi- ble), via object-oriented Perl modules and scripts. That's why MySQL is a decent fit for a lot of what Perl programmers are doing. They don't want that level of abstraction in the data- base. They want to control it using their own abstractions. I think this might move us into some bigger questions re what the right overall information architecture might be for deployment of web-based services in today's libraries. Libraries have intense information-systems needs, but often lack the kinds of budgets and IT allocations (not to mention institu- tional commitment) necessary to fill them. Are open-source systems the answer? They don't cost a lot. But often there is more overhead getting them to interoperate. E.g., you won't have much trouble getting FrontPage and SQL Server to work with IIS. But they'll cost you. And FrontPage extensions have historically be a source of many security problems. Also, you'll have lots of fun trying to get Microsoft software to in- teroperate with anything else. But it'll work. And with it you get the warm feeling of working with an industry behemoth that isn't going anywhere any time soon. Speaking of middle-tier technologies, what of CORBA and DCOM? Do most libraries even have time to stop and think about what a sen- sible middle-tier object technology is, still less select and build one into their systems. I don't know how many of the big OPAC vend- ors even care about such things. (I'd actually be interested in knowing about people's experiences with the major OPACs in this area. Do they offer, e.g., Java/J2EE integration?) -- Richard Goerwitz richard@Goerwitz.COM tel: 401 438 8978 From phenriksen at earthlink.net Wed May 23 20:30:11 2001 From: phenriksen at earthlink.net (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: IrfanView In-Reply-To: <010523200601.4a98f@sals.edu> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010523202756.00aeb320@mail.earthlink.net> I see on www.download.com that IrfanView has gathered a few negative comments. I would recommend that anyone interested in downloading the program read the reviews first. I certainly don't want my recommendation to result in brickbats thrown my way. :| I think it's a great program. Phalbe Henriksen From me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au Wed May 23 20:53:19 2001 From: me at Tony-Barry.emu.id.au (Tony Barry) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CD@mail1.morrisville.edu> References: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4CD@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: At 6:42 AM -0700 23/5/01, Drew, Bill wrote: >I am after something >that can be used now to create static pages that we will then move to the >webserver. Eric Lease Moragn does/did this with FileMaker Pro http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/staff/morgan/i-like-filemaker/index.html I'm doing something like that but it's a work in progress [not finished, flayey etc :-)] You out there Eric? Tony -- phone +61 2 6241 7659 mailto:me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au http://purl.oclc.org/NET/Tony.Barry From george at library.caltech.edu Thu May 24 14:54:24 2001 From: george at library.caltech.edu (George Porter) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: MARS Hot Topics DG in SF -- OpenURL & Link Servers tackle "Approp riate Copy" Problem Message-ID: <0C2C50C9B668D311878100A0C9EA3676450297@dungeon.library.caltech.edu> Cross-posted. Please excuse duplication. Feel free to pass this along to others who may be interested. ******************************** Silver Bullet? OpenURL and Link Servers (SFX, Openly Jake) Take Aim at the "Appropriate Copy" Problem MARS Hot Topics Discussion Group American Library Association Annual Conference San Francisco, CA Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Moscone Convention Center, Room 236 Librarians and library users have been wishing for simple access from bibliographic indexes to the text of the articles since the first index rolled off a printing press. CD-ROMs and web-based databases were major advances in providing powerful reference services, but have generally fallen short by failing to point to all copies of the full text available to a library user at a particular site, i.e., the "appropriate copy" problem. OpenURL and link servers may be the wish come true. Join Margery Tibbetts, California Digital Library, and Eric Hellman, Openly Informatics, to discuss the potential offered by these new technologies. George Porter, Caltech Library System, will demonstrate SFX, a production system based on OpenURL and link server technology. Chair: Linda Keiter, lkeiter@library.utah.edu Vice-Chair: George Porter, george@library.caltech.edu George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Fri May 25 11:44:25 2001 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Internet porn in library: a 'hostile work environment'... References: <45E65FF9FB4BD3118912005004A2B8F058EBD3@ohionetmail.ohionet.org> Message-ID: <3B0E7DD9.62007018@cdrewu.edu> http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?story=84238770&template=metro_a_cache -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl From dan at riverofdata.com Fri May 25 12:08:47 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet porn in library: a 'hostile work environment'... In-Reply-To: <3B0E7DD9.62007018@cdrewu.edu> References: <3B0E7DD9.62007018@cdrewu.edu> Message-ID: <19487685084.20010525100847@riverofdata.com> Interesting case. Also interesting that the changes in policy don't seem like they'd have any effect on porn viewing, or whether or not the librarians would/could see porn accidentally. Of course I think that librarians are regularly exposed to things they don't like, whether things done by patrons, information that we may find offensive (and certainly not just visual information), and so forth, so I think this case is a stretch. But considering a lady getting millions of bucks for her own stupidity (the mcdonalds coffee in the lap case), nothing would surprise me. Maybe some librarians should file a case because they had to provide information on holocaust revisionism, or abortion, or birth control, or religion or . dan Friday, May 25, 2001, 9:42:33 AM, you wrote: CPH> http://www.startribune.com/viewers/qview/cgi/qview.cgi?story=84238770&template=metro_a_cache CPH> -- CPH> Charles P. Hobbs CPH> King Drew Health Science Library CPH> http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From pecautm at missouri.edu Fri May 25 12:09:44 2001 From: pecautm at missouri.edu (Mark Pecaut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] scheduling In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010524110750.00a7b790@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from danforth@tiac.net on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:08:30AM -0700 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010524110750.00a7b790@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: <20010525110943.A13534@missouri.edu> If you have a Microsoft IIS webserver (bleah) you can use this: http://web.missouri.edu/~ellisref/help/calendar.shtml You could even run it on Personal Web Server on Windows 98, but I wouldn't recommend this unless its the only way. -Mark On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:08:30AM -0700, Isabel Danforth wrote: > > We are looking for an inexpensive (or free) scheduling system to replace > the paper pages in a notebook that is currentlyl used for patrons signing > up to use public computers. We do not use Outlook within our library for > email. > > Ideally it would reside on one computer and be accessible from several > other PC's. One possible solution would be to use a set of Excel > spreadsheets, but that can be a bit clunky. > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > Isabel From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Fri May 25 12:23:50 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Mozilla-based Library Browser? References: <16831103103.20010524182543@riverofdata.com> Message-ID: <3B0E8716.A1EE8C64@tln.lib.mi.us> For those of us who are still trying to keep the flame burning for the Mozilla browser, one of the frustrations has been the clunkiness of the interface (why, oh why is the home button next to bookmarks) and its slowness in loading compared to IE. However, for those who are looking for a Mozilla-based browser that would be suitable for library use, you might want to check out K-Meleon browser. http://www.kmeleon.org/ and http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/article1926.html A Windows-only (sorry Mac users) browser, it looks a lot like Internet Explorer. In fact, those who have used Public Web Browser will think you've found its cousin. However, unlike PWB, which is built on IE, K-Meleon is built on gecko, which is the rendering engine for Mozilla. It's the first custom-build that I've seen that has a "smart" and clean interface. It has a "small" footprint and doesn't appear to be cluttered up with all of the gunk that the big 2 insist on throwing into the mix. It doesn't have all of the security features of PWB. However, it does appear that you can do some editing so it might be possible to create a kiosk-mode browser without too much hassle. It will be interesting to see what people are able to work out with this browser. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From dan at riverofdata.com Fri May 25 12:24:39 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: scheduling In-Reply-To: <20010525110943.A13534@missouri.edu> References: <20010525110943.A13534@missouri.edu> Message-ID: <3888636732.20010525102439@riverofdata.com> Unfortunately the tarball of the software has a broken link on your web page. I'd like to snag it if you can advise where it is. dan Friday, May 25, 2001, 10:13:58 AM, you wrote: MP> If you have a Microsoft IIS webserver (bleah) you can use this: MP> http://web.missouri.edu/~ellisref/help/calendar.shtml MP> You could even run it on Personal Web Server on Windows 98, MP> but I wouldn't recommend this unless its the only way. MP> -Mark MP> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:08:30AM -0700, Isabel Danforth wrote: >> >> We are looking for an inexpensive (or free) scheduling system to replace >> the paper pages in a notebook that is currentlyl used for patrons signing >> up to use public computers. We do not use Outlook within our library for >> email. >> >> Ideally it would reside on one computer and be accessible from several >> other PC's. One possible solution would be to use a set of Excel >> spreadsheets, but that can be a bit clunky. >> >> Any ideas would be appreciated. >> >> Isabel -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From pecautm at missouri.edu Fri May 25 12:34:31 2001 From: pecautm at missouri.edu (Mark Pecaut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: scheduling In-Reply-To: <3888636732.20010525102439@riverofdata.com>; from dan@riverofdata.com on Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:24:39AM -0600 References: <20010525110943.A13534@missouri.edu> <3888636732.20010525102439@riverofdata.com> Message-ID: <20010525113431.A6258@missouri.edu> Sorry about that. It should be up now. -Mark On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:24:39AM -0600, Dan Lester wrote: > Unfortunately the tarball of the software has a broken link on your > web page. I'd like to snag it if you can advise where it is. > > dan > > Friday, May 25, 2001, 10:13:58 AM, you wrote: > > MP> If you have a Microsoft IIS webserver (bleah) you can use this: > MP> http://web.missouri.edu/~ellisref/help/calendar.shtml > > MP> You could even run it on Personal Web Server on Windows 98, > MP> but I wouldn't recommend this unless its the only way. > > MP> -Mark > > MP> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 08:08:30AM -0700, Isabel Danforth wrote: > >> > >> We are looking for an inexpensive (or free) scheduling system to replace > >> the paper pages in a notebook that is currentlyl used for patrons signing > >> up to use public computers. We do not use Outlook within our library for > >> email. > >> > >> Ideally it would reside on one computer and be accessible from several > >> other PC's. One possible solution would be to use a set of Excel > >> spreadsheets, but that can be a bit clunky. > >> > >> Any ideas would be appreciated. > >> > >> Isabel > > > > -- > Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com > 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA > www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com > > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri May 25 12:54:09 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Mozilla-based Library Browser? References: <3B0E8716.A1EE8C64@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: <003601c0e53b$6aa0fb20$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > For those of us who are still trying to keep the flame burning for the Mozilla browser, one of the frustrations has been the clunkiness of the interface (why, oh why is the home button next to bookmarks) > and its slowness in loading compared to IE. However, for those who are looking for a Mozilla-based browser that would be suitable for library use, you might want to check out K-Meleon browser. > > http://www.kmeleon.org/ > > and > > http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/article1926.html > I exchanged e-mail with a couple of librarians when Beonex (another Mozilla offshoot) appeared, wondering about exactly how much work would be involved in creating the killer browser interface for public workstations. Of course, the outcome of those conversations was, "It would sure be cool if someone did that." As more Mozilla-based projects appear, I wonder if it's time to approach this more directly. Has anyone toyed around with this? Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Fri May 25 12:38:22 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Pocket PCs, the web and web based databases Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4DC@mail1.morrisville.edu> Our college has a grant from the SUNY United University and Professionals union to do a pilot program and research on using Pocket PCs (Compaq IPaq 3650) in an academic environment. I will be participating in the pilot using the IPaq to access library webpages and web based databases that the library subscribes to. The Ipaq uses Windows CE with Internet Explorer and can access HTML based webpages like a regular computer can. Anyone out there have any experience using the IPaq 3650 or other Pocket PCs? I will probably be using one with an expansion pack for wireless LAN and wireless cellular connectivity. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From dhamilto at wlu.ca Fri May 25 13:09:27 2001 From: dhamilto at wlu.ca (Don Hamilton) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Mozilla-based Library Browser? In-Reply-To: <003601c0e53b$6aa0fb20$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: I wondered how adaptable the Teamsoft PWB shell would be for Mozilla, and so am including 'Scott' in this. I'm just an interested tinkerer, who sees an area for joint development here. I don't know or understand (or even care, really) what the structural differences are between IE and Mozilla. I do know that PWB seems to be moving quickly towards becoming the "killer browser interface for public workstations". don -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Dowling Sent: May 25, 2001 12:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Mozilla-based Library Browser? > For those of us who are still trying to keep the flame burning for the Mozilla browser, one of the frustrations has been the clunkiness of the interface (why, oh why is the home button next to bookmarks) > and its slowness in loading compared to IE. However, for those who are looking for a Mozilla-based browser that would be suitable for library use, you might want to check out K-Meleon browser. > > http://www.kmeleon.org/ > > and > > http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/article1926.html > I exchanged e-mail with a couple of librarians when Beonex (another Mozilla offshoot) appeared, wondering about exactly how much work would be involved in creating the killer browser interface for public workstations. Of course, the outcome of those conversations was, "It would sure be cool if someone did that." As more Mozilla-based projects appear, I wonder if it's time to approach this more directly. Has anyone toyed around with this? Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From dsaklad at gnu.org Fri May 25 14:01:52 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Free Web-based Workshop Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet Message-ID: Via http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/PubLib/ Topic No. 6 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Conroy To: publib Subject: Free Web-based Workshop Beginners Genealogical Research on the In Message-ID: Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet Free Web-based Workshop Sponsored by OHIONET Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 18 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 18, 2001. Agenda Syllabus at http://www.kovacs.com/genbegin.html Overview In this Web-based hands-on workshop, students will learn the basics of genealogical research within the context of using the Internet for genealogical research. Audience No genealogical research knowledge is assumed. The workshop might also be useful for those who assist others in doing genealogical research. Participants should know how to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to interact with the Web-based materials. Schedule Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 18 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 18, 2001. Registration and Tuition http://www.kovacs.com/register.html The workshop tuition is free but registration is required Materials All materials will be online on interactive Web pages. Color printed packets will be priority mailed to each participant on receipt of payment, or purchase order. Instructor: Diane K. Kovacs - Kovacs Consulting Internet & World Wide Web Training http://www.kovacs.com Genealogical Research on the Internet -Web-based Workshop in a Book Forthcoming from Neal-Schuman 2001 OHIONET contact: Mary Mlynar Conroy Library Services Coordinator OHIONET, 1500 West Lane Ave, Columbus OH 43221 Fax 614/486-1527 voice 800/686-8975 or 614/486-2966 ext 16 mailto:mconroy@ohionet.org ------------------------------ End of PUBLIB Digest 1684 ************************* http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/PubLib/ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 07:48:39 -0700 (PDT) From: publib@webjunction.org To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [PUBLIB] PUBLIB digest 1684 X-Comment: publib Information - http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/PubLib/ PUBLIB Digest 1684 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) List rules by "Karen G. Schneider" 2) 10th Annual Free Speech Buffet - 6 to 9 pm, Monday June 18 by Rory Litwin 3) Invitation: OCLC Institute ALA Presentation: Beyond the by PUBLIB 4) free speech buffet what about free speech in Cuba? by mao66@att.net 5) Job Opportunites, Jefferson County Public Library by Nancy Seibert 6) Free Web-based Workshop Beginners Genealogical Research on the In by Mary Conroy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:54:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Karen G. Schneider" To: publib Subject: List rules Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Diedre asked a question about the list rules... actually... we don't have a limit on the number of posts! However, this is a good reminder that it's time to repost the current PUBLIB guidelines... 1. All messages must relate, however tangentially, to the general topic of public libraries. Messages that are clearly off-topic will not be posted. 2. Advertisements will be labeled, "AD." Only advertisements of interest to the PUBLIB community will be posted. In practice, this means you will almost never see an ad posted on its own merits. 3. Messages must be no longer than 15 kilobytes in length. Posters are strongly encouraged to post summaries and direct readers to websites or similar external sources in lieu of posting entire resources verbatim to the list. Responses to messages should, whenever possible, include only enough of the previous post to continue the thread of the discussion. If your email software makes it impossible to do this, you may have to explain this to the moderators. 4. Because PUBLIB and PUBLIB-NET are heavy-traffic lists, the moderators strongly encourage you to suspend mail if you go on vacation and resume it on your return. Instructions are below. The new archive for PUBLIB and PUBLIB-NET makes it very easy to view earlier messages, so you will not lose information by signing off. 5. Messages must be in plain ASCII. In practice, unless you attempt to forward a graphic or an encoded or word-processed document to the list, you will not have to worry about this rule. 6. No four-letter words or ad hominem attacks. You may criticize a policy or a point of view, but you must substantiate your comments. In other words, you may not say, "you stink," but you may say, "your library policy stinks because..." 7. The moderators are not responsible for copyright violations. It is the responsibility of the poster to ensure that his or her post does not violate copyright law. 8. Threads that have run their course but refuse to die may be terminated by the moderators. 9. Virus warnings: ONLY official CERT advisories are acceptable. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com Assistant Director of Technology Shenendehowa Public Library, Clifton Park, NY http://www.shenpublib.org ------------------------------ Topic No. 2 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Rory Litwin To: publib Subject: 10th Annual Free Speech Buffet - 6 to 9 pm, Monday June 18 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 10th Annual Free Speech Buffet - 6 to 9 pm, Monday June 18 The SRRT Alternatives In Print Task Force is sponsoring the 10th Annual FREE SPEECH BUFFET during the ALA annual conference in San Francisco. This free event features dozens of local alternative and independent publishers and distributors of books and periodicals displaying their wares to local and visiting librarians.  It is a great opportunity to find out about significant and interesting new publications that won't be on display in the exhibit hall.  It is also a perennial networking opportunity and a lot of fun. There are free hors d'oevres and a cash bar. This year's event will take place at Saint Mary's Cathedral (the giant modern one) on: *** Monday evening, June 18th, from 6 to 9 pm. *** Saint Mary's Cathedral is at 1111 Gough Street at Geary.  Take the 38 bus on Geary, (2 blocks from the Convention Center at Kearny and Market).  It runs every 5 minutes and is a 12 ride to Geary & Gough.  The entrance to the lower level of the Cathedral is on Gough underneath the main entrance.  Take a left to get to Room A. Free parking is also available if you are driving. Social Responsibilities Round Table: http://libr.org/SRRT/ Alternatives In Print Task Force: http://libr.org/AIP/ -- ================================================================= Rory Litwin, PO Box 720511, San Jose, CA 95172 rory@libr.org - http://libr.org/rory/ Registered Linux user #88673 "What seemed to me to be at stake at this time was a kind of censorship by effect, at the very source, where decisions are made as to what is identified as news, what information is chosen for dissemination, what ideas and views are considered acceptable, or desireable, to publish and disseminate. And the source was shrinking. Open censorship can be fought openly, and often successfully. But, how can librarians assure the broadest representation of information, opinions, and creative expression in the face of the growing concentration of ownership of communication channels?" -Zoia Horn, _Zoia! Memoirs of Zoia Horn, Battler for the People's Right to Know_, McFarland, 1995 ------------------------------ Topic No. 3 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) From: PUBLIB To: publib Subject: Invitation: OCLC Institute ALA Presentation: Beyond the Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="----_=_NextPart_000_01C0E455.89A292E0" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0E455.89A292E0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:29:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lytle,Amy" To: plib2@webjunction.org Subject: [PUBLIB] Invitation: OCLC Institute ALA Presentation: Beyond the Buzz: Cr [Widely cross-posted with apologies. Please redistribute as appropriate.] The OCLC Institute invites you to join us at ALA for "Beyond the Buzz: Critical Issues for Action" Saturday, June 16 1:00-3:00 p.m. San Francisco Hilton & Towers, Continental Ballroom Parlor 9 Registration required, no cost to attend; seating is limited. Join OCLC Institute Founding Director Emeritus, Martin Dillon, Ph.D., for a lively discussion of key trends and new directions affecting libraries today. Topic include: Key Trends in Librarianship Measuring Library Performance Re-inventing fundamental services Creating global vision e-learning New Directions Plans for future seminars and conferences Key content form seminars Trends on the horizon The OCLC Institute as Resource for You Onsite Seminars Conferences e-learning Share your expertise and experience, and learn about how the OCLC Institute can be a part of your personal development and institutional growth. To register online: For more information, contact Amy Lytle, Event Coordinator, at lytlea@oclc.org . ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0E455.89A292E0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: Content-Description: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED--- * * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * * This mail list only accepts PLAIN TEXT * * If your postings display this message your mail program * * may not be set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and may need * * adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0E455.89A292E0-- ------------------------------ Topic No. 4 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:56:07 -0700 (PDT) From: mao66@att.net To: publib Subject: free speech buffet what about free speech in Cuba? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How nice that Rory Litwin would advertise a "free speech" buffet when he is the antithesis of everything that has to do with "free speech". Firstly, he and his cohorts censor the plgnet-l@listproc.sjsu.edu list in the worst Stalinist manner - for "progressives" they contradict themselves and void out all forms of dissent that can flourish between adults "within the revolution everything, without the revolution nothing!" - and then he is critical of any measures that would allow the Cuban people a democratic alternative to four decades of anti free speech, anti intellectual freedoms by his infatuation with a one party status quo junta in Havana that is the last and longest running dictatorship in the Western Hemisphere. So talk all you want about censorship because it's alive and well on plgnet-l@listproc.sjsu.edu and in Cuba. > > 10th Annual Free Speech Buffet - 6 to 9 pm, Monday June 18 > > The SRRT Alternatives In Print Task Force is sponsoring the 10th > Annual FREE SPEECH BUFFET during the ALA annual conference in San > Francisco. > > This free event features dozens of local alternative and independent > publishers and distributors of books and periodicals displaying their wares > to local and visiting librarians.  It is a great opportunity to find out > about significant and interesting new publications that won't be on display > in the exhibit hall.  It is also a perennial networking opportunity > and a lot of fun. There are free hors d'oevres and a cash bar. > > This year's event will take place at Saint Mary's Cathedral (the giant > modern one) on: > > *** Monday evening, June 18th, from 6 to 9 pm. *** > > Saint Mary's Cathedral is at 1111 Gough Street at Geary.  Take the 38 > bus on Geary, (2 blocks from the Convention Center at Kearny and > Market).  It runs every 5 minutes and is a 12 ride to Geary & > Gough.  The entrance to the lower level of the Cathedral is on Gough > underneath the main entrance.  Take a left to get to Room A. Free > parking is also available if you are driving. > > Social Responsibilities Round Table: http://libr.org/SRRT/ > Alternatives In Print Task Force: http://libr.org/AIP/ > > -- > ================================================================= > > Rory Litwin, PO Box 720511, San Jose, CA 95172 > rory@libr.org - http://libr.org/rory/ > Registered Linux user #88673 > > "What seemed to me to be at stake at this time was a kind of > censorship by effect, at the very source, where decisions are > made as to what is identified as news, what information is > chosen for dissemination, what ideas and views are considered > acceptable, or desireable, to publish and disseminate. And the > source was shrinking. Open censorship can be fought openly, and > often successfully. But, how can librarians assure the broadest > representation of information, opinions, and creative expression > in the face of the growing concentration of ownership of > communication channels?" > > -Zoia Horn, _Zoia! Memoirs of Zoia Horn, Battler for the People's > Right to Know_, McFarland, 1995 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Topic No. 5 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Nancy Seibert To: publib Subject: Job Opportunites, Jefferson County Public Library Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 2 Positions opening 5/24. Please excuse cross postings. POSITION: Library Manager #21-420 Jefferson County Public Library, Columbine Library APPLICATION DEADLINE: 6/28/01. QUALIFICATIONS: Requires a MLS and a minimum of 3 years supervisory and program development experience in a library. Must be flexible to work some evenings, weekends, and minor holidays. DUTIES: Manages the branch and supervises a staff of 24 including, professional, paraprofessional and clerical employees. The Library Manager also directs and coordinates library services, staff, and building operations as well as, contributing a voice to long-range planning, collection development, and library services, for the entire system. Position conducts unit head and branch meetings, participates in a Public Service Management Team with other branch managers, and represents branch interests to Administration, Public Services and the community. Individual must be comfortable with technology, and possess excellent communication skills. SALARY: $46,600 Annual BENEFITS: * Excellent benefits package including health, dental, vision and retirement. * Vacation, holiday, sick leave, and personal days. * Training Opportunities. APPLY: A Jefferson County application form must be completed along with a list of 3 references. Applications are available by fax (303) 271-8411 or http://jefferson.lib.co.us Please return to Jefferson County Human Resources Dept. 800 Jefferson Pkwy, Suite .140, Golden CO 80401; 303-271-8400. POSITION: Web Technician, Library #21-425 Jefferson County Public Library APPLICATION DEADLINE: 6/14/01. QUALIFICATIONS: Requires a Bachelors Degree and computer software, information systems, or database experience, preferably in a web-enabled library environment; or any equivalent combination of training and experience which provides the required knowledge and skills. May require working on some evenings, weekends, and minor holidays. DUTIES: Performs routine maintenance of library's web data, links, indexes and resources. Collects and prepares statistical reports, processes routine web site revisions, loads files, and uses software to create brief MARC catalog records. Position will also assist with research, reports, upgrades, and new projects as directed. Experience with web-authoring tools or HTML, desktop applications, operating systems and in using the Internet for research or operations is helpful. SALARY: Annual $31,000. BENEFITS: * Excellent benefits package including health, dental, and retirement. * Vacation, holiday, sick leave, and personal days. * Training Opportunities. APPLY: A Jefferson County application form must be completed. Applications are available by fax (303) 271-8411 or online http://jefferson.lib.co.us "Join Our Team" Return to Jefferson County Human Resources Dept. 800 Jefferson Pkwy, Ste .140, Golden CO 80401; 303-271-8400. ------------------------------ Topic No. 6 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:56:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Conroy To: publib Subject: Free Web-based Workshop Beginners Genealogical Research on the In Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet Free Web-based Workshop Sponsored by OHIONET Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 18 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 18, 2001. Agenda Syllabus at http://www.kovacs.com/genbegin.html Overview In this Web-based hands-on workshop, students will learn the basics of genealogical research within the context of using the Internet for genealogical research. Audience No genealogical research knowledge is assumed. The workshop might also be useful for those who assist others in doing genealogical research. Participants should know how to use Netscape or Internet Explorer 4.5 or higher to interact with the Web-based materials. Schedule Students may choose to participate in scheduled live online meetings* June 18 Noon-2 EST (11-1 CST, 10-12 MST, 9-11 PST) OR Register for individually paced work with the instructor and other students via e-mail and online meetings by appointment. Begins June 18, 2001. Registration and Tuition http://www.kovacs.com/register.html The workshop tuition is free but registration is required Materials All materials will be online on interactive Web pages. Color printed packets will be priority mailed to each participant on receipt of payment, or purchase order. Instructor: Diane K. Kovacs - Kovacs Consulting Internet & World Wide Web Training http://www.kovacs.com Genealogical Research on the Internet -Web-based Workshop in a Book Forthcoming from Neal-Schuman 2001 OHIONET contact: Mary Mlynar Conroy Library Services Coordinator OHIONET, 1500 West Lane Ave, Columbus OH 43221 Fax 614/486-1527 voice 800/686-8975 or 614/486-2966 ext 16 mailto:mconroy@ohionet.org ------------------------------ End of PUBLIB Digest 1684 ************************* http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/PubLib/ From pecautm at missouri.edu Fri May 25 14:03:49 2001 From: pecautm at missouri.edu (Mark Pecaut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Creating local content for web In-Reply-To: ; from jqj@darkwing.uoregon.edu on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:34:04PM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010525130349.A4299@missouri.edu> On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:34:04PM -0700, JQ Johnson wrote: > Another practical issue that every database programmer should care about is > support for transactions (commit/rollback). > > I suspect that as the complexity of database applications in the open source > community increases we'll see increasing pressure on MySQL and PostGRES to > implement more advanced features, which in turn will put pressure on the > abstraction layer developers to figure out ways to include such advanced > features in the layer. PostgreSQL already supports transactions, sub-selects, triggers, foreign key referential integrity, and some other stuff. Plus it smokes MySQL for large number of users. http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim20000705.php3?page=1 http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/tim20001112.php3 -Mark From dennism at library.tmc.edu Fri May 25 14:34:22 2001 From: dennism at library.tmc.edu (Dennis Moser) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Mozilla-based Library Browser? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.1.4.1.20010525132748.01d41aa0@library.tmc.edu> Has anyone interested in this thread been monitoring the discussion the past few days over on the oss4lib-discuss list? (Or do you know about it? If not, here: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oss4lib-discuss The point is that there are a lot of the pieces out there, waiting to be put together; browsers, OPACs, you name it. Dennis At 10:12 AM 5/25/01 -0700, Don Hamilton wrote: >I wondered how adaptable the Teamsoft PWB shell would be for Mozilla, and so >am including 'Scott' in this. I'm just an interested tinkerer, who sees an >area for joint development here. I don't know or understand (or even care, >really) what the structural differences are between IE and Mozilla. I do >know that PWB seems to be moving quickly towards becoming the "killer >browser interface for public workstations". > >don > > >-----Original Message----- >From: web4lib@webjunction.org >[mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Dowling >Sent: May 25, 2001 12:55 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Mozilla-based Library Browser? > > > > For those of us who are still trying to keep the flame burning for the >Mozilla browser, one of the frustrations has been the clunkiness of the >interface (why, oh why is the home button next to bookmarks) > > and its slowness in loading compared to IE. However, for those who are >looking for a Mozilla-based browser that would be suitable for library >use, you might want to check out K-Meleon browser. > > > > http://www.kmeleon.org/ > > > > and > > > > http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/article1926.html > > > > >I exchanged e-mail with a couple of librarians when Beonex (another >Mozilla offshoot) appeared, wondering about exactly how much work would be >involved in creating the killer browser interface for public workstations. >Of course, the outcome of those conversations was, "It would sure be cool >if someone did that." As more Mozilla-based projects appear, I wonder if >it's time to approach this more directly. Has anyone toyed around with >this? > >Thomas Dowling >OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network >tdowling@ohiolink.edu *************************************************************************** Dennis Moser, MILS Web Librarian, McGovern Historical Collections & Research Ctr HAM-TMC Library / 1133 M. D. Anderson Blvd / Houston, TX *************************************************************************** From lwhyman at pacbell.net Fri May 25 14:58:17 2001 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: bogus survey? Message-ID: <3.0.32.20010525115816.00694e48@postoffice.pacbell.net> There was a mention a couple of days ago about a bogus library survey that's going around. Not sure if it was this list or CalibK12? Anyway, I just received a message about a survey being conducted by the Evaluation and Training Institute to determine library staff continuing education needs for the Stanford-California State Library Institute on 21st Century Librarianship, InFoPeople Project, and the California Library Association. Is this one legit? Thanks. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu Fri May 25 14:35:30 2001 From: ldjaffe at cats.ucsc.edu (Lee Jaffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? In-Reply-To: <200105211446.JAA08457@Bayou.UH.EDU> References: <200105211446.JAA08457@Bayou.UH.EDU> Message-ID: >Try Academic Library Newsletters in the United States: > >http://libaxp.hartford.edu/llr/alinusin.htm Here's an interesting case. I looked at this site and checked my own library's entry. The item listed here didn't point to our newsletter, so I sent a note the editor, per the notice at the bottom of the page: Institutions that wish to suggest publications for inclusion in this database should email the editor, Well, the resulting entry has a typo in it which leads to a 404 error. And the old, wrong link still shows up. (i.e., There are now two entries for our library: one points to the wrong page and the other has a bad URL.) I've written to the editor twice now over several days and have received no response and the problems persist. It's pretty frustrating how easily someone can establish themselves as the "official" site for any field and yet have no accountability. If you've ever tried to get your site listed in a major directory, you know what I mean. -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz From dan at riverofdata.com Fri May 25 15:38:36 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <146100273315.20010525133836@riverofdata.com> It isn't just you, Lee. I just looked at that page again and found that Bowie State has a duplicate entry, that the Claremont College entries have one broken (at least they have two different newsletters...but one link goes to both, another to nowhere), that Coll of Wm and Mary goes to the homepage, not the newsletter, that one of the links for Colorado College goes to their "about the library" page instead of a newsletter, and so forth. I didn't look past "C" in the list of libraries, so imagine this continues. Maybe the compiler turned it all over to a student assistant who can't type and who doesn't look at what is there. Among other things, this shows the problems of automatic link checking, assuming they were actually checked. cheers dan Friday, May 25, 2001, 1:25:36 PM, you wrote: >>Try Academic Library Newsletters in the United States: >> >>http://libaxp.hartford.edu/llr/alinusin.htm LJ> Here's an interesting case. I looked at this site and checked my own LJ> library's entry. The item listed here didn't point to our newsletter, LJ> so I sent a note the editor, per the notice at the bottom of the page: LJ> Institutions that wish to suggest publications for inclusion LJ> in this database should email the editor, LJ> Well, the resulting entry has a typo in it which leads to a 404 error. LJ> And the old, wrong link still shows up. (i.e., There are now two entries LJ> for our library: one points to the wrong page and the other has a bad URL.) LJ> I've written to the editor twice now over several days and have received LJ> no response and the problems persist. LJ> It's pretty frustrating how easily someone can establish themselves as LJ> the "official" site for any field and yet have no accountability. If you've LJ> ever tried to get your site listed in a major directory, you know what I LJ> mean. LJ> -- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Fri May 25 15:50:54 2001 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library newsletters on the web? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmmm...my mileage definitely varied. I noticed a typo in a link, reported it, and it was fixed within a day or so. Perhaps the editor is away for a few days. I'd also like to point out that declaring yourself to be the "official" site for something and actually *being* it are two different things. If users get a bunch of 404s when using a directory, they won't be coming back soon and no matter how "official" a directory was to that point, it's toast. Besides, no one has ever let the existence of one directory prevent them from establishing another. That's why we have several directories of library web sites, for example, despite the fact that Thomas Dowling established his before most librarians even knew what the Web was. Roy At 12:26 PM -0700 5/25/01, Lee Jaffe wrote: >>Try Academic Library Newsletters in the United States: >> >>http://libaxp.hartford.edu/llr/alinusin.htm > >Here's an interesting case. I looked at this site and checked my own >library's entry. The item listed here didn't point to our newsletter, >so I sent a note the editor, per the notice at the bottom of the page: > > Institutions that wish to suggest publications for inclusion > in this database should email the editor, > >Well, the resulting entry has a typo in it which leads to a 404 error. >And the old, wrong link still shows up. (i.e., There are now two entries >for our library: one points to the wrong page and the other has a bad URL.) >I've written to the editor twice now over several days and have received >no response and the problems persist. > >It's pretty frustrating how easily someone can establish themselves as >the "official" site for any field and yet have no accountability. If you've >ever tried to get your site listed in a major directory, you know what I >mean. > >-- Lee Jaffe, UC Santa Cruz From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri May 25 16:05:53 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Libweb and the Seven Year Itch Message-ID: <005401c0e556$5c5caee0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> My own little contribution to the Web's grand collection of lists of lists, Libweb, turns seven tomorrow. Within the last month or so, Libweb passed the 6000-site mark. My continued thanks go out to the many people who have submitted sites to help maintain this commercial-free site, and to the Berkeley SunSITE for hosting it. Libweb now includes regular link checking, which has helped to cut down on the inevitable occurrences of 404 errors. As a by-product of this, its search engine now reports the date of the last successful check and some HTTP header information you may find interesting, in a techie-nerd sort of way. Now that I'm getting updates on which sites have gone missing, I can do a little poking around to discover their new locations. However, I have the time and inclination to do only a very little poking: sites that turn out to be unfindable get deleted from the directory. This is especially likely to happen with public libraries whose pages live at commercial ISPs. When you move from there, there's usually no pointer to where you've gone, and no obvious parent web site that might provide the new link. I've actually deleted more sites than I've added over the last few weeks - a good reason to get a reasonable domain name and stick with it. In addition to the main location at , Libweb is available at several mirror locations, and any non-commercial site is welcome to mount their own copy, provided they're willing to update it at least once a month. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From dmesser at yvrls.lib.wa.us Fri May 25 16:09:26 2001 From: dmesser at yvrls.lib.wa.us (Daniel Messer) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Internet porn in library: a 'hostile work environment'... Message-ID: Dan Lester said: > Of course I think that librarians are regularly exposed to things they > don't like, whether things done by patrons, information that we may > find offensive (and certainly not just visual information), and so > forth, so I think this case is a stretch. But considering a lady > getting millions of bucks for her own stupidity (the mcdonalds coffee > in the lap case), nothing would surprise me. > > Maybe some librarians should file a case because they had to provide > information on holocaust revisionism, or abortion, or birth control, > or religion or . I am in 100% agreement with you. I hate that "new age" EEOC term- "hostile work environment." Let me tell you all something, that term is sanctimonious bureaucratic nonsense. Working in a library and accidentally being exposed to online porn is not creating a hostile work environment. A guy coming in with a semi-automatic pistol in each hand blazing away like he's in a John Woo movie is creating a hostile work environment. Being forced to deal with an axe wielding maniac is creating a hostile work environment. Having to deal with online porn is something that inconveniences one's morals. Your comment about filing a lawsuit because of other things that might offend them is right on the money. These are the same people that will sue because they saw some pornography that some jerk patron intentionally left on the screen but happily direct people in their efforts to find Lady Chatterly's Lover or the Joy Of Sex. And one other thing before I step down off of this soap box: I wonder if it ever occured to these people that some patron figured he'd have a little fun and see if he could whip up a little animosity amongst the librarians? How better to do that than to leave a picture of some totally depraved pornography on the screen for them to find? Okay, ranting mode off, just food for thought on a Friday afternoon. :) Have a good three day weekend (If you live in the United States) and a good two day weekend (If you don't.). Dan -- Mondai wa The subject in question... ------------- Daniel Messer Technologies Instructor Yakima Valley Regional Library dmesser@yvrls.lib.wa.us 509-452-8541 ext 712 102 N 3rd St Yakima, WA 98901 ----------- When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson From dan at riverofdata.com Fri May 25 16:36:07 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Internet porn in library: a 'hostile work environment'... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81103724237.20010525143607@riverofdata.com> Friday, May 25, 2001, 2:11:34 PM, you wrote: DM> I am in 100% agreement with you. DM> I hate that "new age" EEOC term- "hostile work environment." DM> Let me tell you all something, that term is sanctimonious DM> bureaucratic nonsense. Of course it is. But so are a lot of the other contemporary "politically correct" bits of nonsense floating around. The reader may compile her/his own list, of course. DM> Working in a library and accidentally DM> being exposed to online porn is not creating a hostile work DM> environment. Right. And the same thing can happen anywhere. What if I left a copy of Hustler or some porn mag sitting around in McDonald's or Burger King? (Most likely another patron or one of the teenage crew members cleaning the lobby would scarf it up quickly and never complain at all). Is it a hostile environment when you find an art book open to a nude picture and the picture with a "deposit" left on it by some poor horny guy? Is it a hostile environment when you've got a patron on a porn machine with (as a colleague describes it) "one hand on the mouse and one on the joystick"? I figure if I don't see his joystick and he isn't doing anything blatant, and no one complains, it isn't my problem. Supporting a couple hundred computers doesn't leave me much time to go looking for more problems. DM> A guy coming in with a semi-automatic pistol in DM> each hand blazing away like he's in a John Woo movie is creating DM> a hostile work environment. Being forced to deal with an axe DM> wielding maniac is creating a hostile work environment. Having DM> to deal with online porn is something that inconveniences one's morals. Absolutely. I've dealt with a guy with a (legal) ten inch hunting knife on his belt, but threatening to use it on me while three cops were watching. Another guy had a .45 auto stuck in his pants. No, I don't know if it was loaded. We've had our share of drinkers, smokers, flashers, and lately a foot fondler (who was probably the guy who was regularly searching for "stockings" and "footjob", as shown by our proxy server logs). You work in ANY public service job and you may potentially face such things, whether in fast food, a store, a library, a government office (you think people get upset about their overdue fines, try working in the state tax office), a public school. DM> And one other thing before I step down off of this soap box: I DM> wonder if it ever occured to these people that some patron figured DM> he'd have a little fun and see if he could whip up a little animosity DM> amongst the librarians? How better to do that than to leave a picture DM> of some totally depraved pornography on the screen for them to find? You could be right, but it does sound like more than one patron. But nothing was said in the article about changes in policies that COULD make a difference, as opposed to ones that are useless to make the changes that some desire. I'll bet that there is a hidden agenda....the claimants were passed over for promotion? didn't get the schedule they wanted? are all members of the same religious denomination? have a lawyer who is looking for his 40% cut and has convinced them he can get the 5% each that would remain for each of them? something else I've not thought of? I'd love to hear more from someone in Minnesota...but maybe all those folks are involved and enjoined from addressing the issue. Happy holidays to those who have them dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From John_Seery at asburyseminary.edu Fri May 25 18:02:10 2001 From: John_Seery at asburyseminary.edu (John Seery) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: intenet porn in library: hostile.. Message-ID: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- dan@riverofdata.com,Internet writes: >>Friday, May 25, 2001, 2:11:34 PM, you wrote: >>DM> I am in 100% agreement with you. >>DM> I hate that "new age" EEOC term- "hostile work environment." >>DM> Let me tell you all something, that term is sanctimonious >>DM> bureaucratic nonsense. etc..etc... I see jaded and completely unsympathetic responses which in themselves reveal more about the respondent than treat the issue.. Who is being "hostile" here? Anyone out there sympathetic to the Minn. librarians and who can discuss the real issues with sensible demeanor without dragging the reader through a cesspool infected string of merely politically correct thought? I think some of us should re-read the "guidelines for appropriate list behavior" John A. Seery Instructional Services Librarian: B.L. Fisher Library 204 N. Lexington Ave. Wilmore, Ky 40390 - 1199 e-mail: John_Seery@asburyseminary.edu phone: 606-858-2236 Regarding Truth: Everything is relative... and of that I am absolutely certain! The early bird gets the worm... but the second mouse gets the cheese. From plum at ulink.net Fri May 25 18:02:03 2001 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Libweb and the Seven Year Itch References: <005401c0e556$5c5caee0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <009e01c0e566$54ee4460$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> >... However, I have the > time and inclination to do only a very little poking: sites that turn out > to be unfindable get deleted from the directory. This is especially > likely to happen with public libraries whose pages live at commercial > ISPs. When you move from there, there's usually no pointer to where > you've gone, and no obvious parent web site that might provide the new > link. I've actually deleted more sites than I've added over the last few > weeks - a good reason to get a reasonable domain name and stick with it. You don't just do a Google search for the missing Library page by titles? From dmesser at yvrls.lib.wa.us Fri May 25 19:05:14 2001 From: dmesser at yvrls.lib.wa.us (Daniel Messer) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] intenet porn in library: hostile.. Message-ID: John Seery said: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > dan@riverofdata.com,Internet writes: > >>Friday, May 25, 2001, 2:11:34 PM, you wrote: > >>DM> I am in 100% agreement with you. > > >>DM> I hate that "new age" EEOC term- "hostile work environment." > >>DM> Let me tell you all something, that term is sanctimonious > >>DM> bureaucratic nonsense. > > etc..etc... > > I see jaded and completely unsympathetic responses which in themselves > reveal more about the respondent than treat the issue.. > > Who is being "hostile" here? > > Anyone out there sympathetic to the Minn. librarians and who can discuss > the real issues with sensible demeanor without dragging the reader through > a cesspool infected string of merely politically correct thought? > > I think some of us should re-read the "guidelines for appropriate list > behavior" To be honest, I think you're absolutly right. I might have come across as being completely unsympathetic to the Minn. librarians, and let me assure everybody, it's because I AM completely unsympathetic to their case. It's frivolous and takes advantage of a court system that is already plagued by other frivolous cases which have no merit other than a plantiff wanting to capitalize on a false hardship. So if people think that I'm "hostile" towards such cases, then their thoughts are absolutly correct. And last time I checked, the language I used was quite proper English for describing something I disagree with. There were no vulgarities in my response and the solilquy was on par with the standards of the "guidelines for appropriate list behavior." Finally, I was led to believe that this was a listserv where librarians could bring up and discuss issues and how they feel about said issues. From where I stand, an issue was brought up, someone discussed how they felt about it, and I replied in agreement with their statement and made additional comments of my own. I see no cesspool or infection here. If it is to be said that the issue wasn't properly addressed, so be it. Here is my personal take on the issue. I feel that the Minn. librarians need to mature to the point that they can deal with things they don't agree with being on their library's computer monitors. I agree that the library is not the proper place to view pornography. However I also note that legal pornography (ie Hustler, Playboy, Penthouse, etc.) is still just that... LEGAL. Just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean that it is illegal or wrong to view it. I'm not a big fan of smoking, but smoking is legal so I tolerate smokers and smoking on that basis. I don't go on moralistic crusades to stop smoking, I don't go on religious rampages to end the scourge of tobacco, and I don't judge people harshly because they smoke. Smokers are not breaking any laws as long as they do it in acceptable places. The same should be applied to internet terminals at public libraries. Just as there are smoking and non-smoking areas in restaurants, there should be filtered and unfiltered areas in the library to access the internet. Does that mean I agree with filtering? NO! Filtering internet is just about as useful as filtering cigarettes, it only takes some of the bad stuff out. So you filter SOME of the internet terminals, to keep half of the people happy and you place these terminals in another section totally removed from the unfiltered terminals which are making the other half happy. Then you interview librarians just like they do at video rental places that rent adult videos. My friend worked for one for years and one of the questions they asked him was "Would you have a problem renting, shelving, or stocking videos of a sexually explicit nature?" If the interviewee (if that's a word) said yes they did have a problem, then they would not be asked to work in that area of the store. If they replied in the negative, then they would be allowed to work in the adult section as needed. So you ask librarians, "Do you have a problem dealing with sexually explicit materials that may be left on a machine?" I was asked a variation of this question when I was interviewed for my job. And there's an understanding amongst the other librarians already working here: If you don't want to deal with it, you don't have to. This doesn't seem to be the case in Minnesota. The article mentioned that negotiations were failing and that a lawsuit might be pressed. Well when reasonable people sit down and say "I'm sorry this happened, we'll see to it that you don't have to deal with it again." Other reasonable people tend to say things like "Okay, let's give it another shot." From the little bit the article mentioned, negotiations are failing, which means someone is being unreasonable. Logically, the library probably doesn't want or need the lawsuit; they have nothing to gain from one. They have at least made SOME consessions, whether they be good or bad. So who does that leave? Who has something to gain from this? There's my take on the issue, someone is being selfish. Someone is being unreasonable, and I think it's the librarians. Dan -- Mondai wa The subject in question... ------------- Daniel Messer Technologies Instructor Yakima Valley Regional Library dmesser@yvrls.lib.wa.us 509-452-8541 ext 712 102 N 3rd St Yakima, WA 98901 ----------- When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson From dsaklad at gnu.org Fri May 25 21:00:54 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Richard Stallman Delivers Speech at NYU, Countering Mundie's Attack on Free Software - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) Message-ID: X-URL: http://www.gnu.org/press/2001-05-25-NYU.html A plain text version of this press release is available. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Media Contact: Free Software Foundation Bradley M. Kuhn Phone: +1-617-542-5942 Richard Stallman Delivers Speech at NYU, Countering Mundie's Attack on Free Software Boston, Massachusetts, USA - May 25, 2001 - Richard M. Stallman, president of the Free Software Foundation, announced today that New York University has asked him to deliver a talk that will counterbalance the speech made on May 3, 2001 at NYU by Craig Mundie of Microsoft. Stallman, author of the GNU General Public License, will deliver this speech, entitled "Free Software: Freedom and Cooperation" at Warren Weaver Hall, Room 109 at 251 Mercer Street on the New York University campus. The speech will be held at 10:00 AM on Tuesday, May 29, 2001, and a press conference will immediately follow the speech at 12:15 PM. The press is also invited to a reception at 09:30 AM at the same location. Stallman's speech will cover the importance of software freedom and cooperation among programmers and users, and why the GNU project developed the GNU General Public License to facilitate sharing, cooperation and freedom. To help correct the myths propagated by Mundie's statements, the Free Software Foundation has published a frequently asked question (FAQ) list about the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL). This FAQ list addresses many misconceptions about the GNU GPL. That FAQ list is available at: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl-faq.html. In Microsoft's first attack against the GNU GPL earlier this year, Jim Allchin of Microsoft, claimed the GNU GPL threatens the American Way. Stallman responded with an essay that shows how the GNU GPL reflects and embodies the American spirit. That essay is available at: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gpl-american-way.html. __________________________________________________ About Richard M. Stallman: Richard Stallman is the founder of the GNU project, launched in 1984 to develop the free operating system GNU (an acronym for "GNU's Not Unix"), and thereby give computer users the freedom that most of them have lost. GNU is free software: everyone is free to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes either large or small. Stallman received the Grace Hopper Award from the Association for Computing Machinery for 1991 for his development of the first Emacs editor in the 1970s. In 1990 he was awarded a MacArthur Foundation fellowship, and in 1996 an honorary doctorate from the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden. In 1998 he received the Electronic Frontier Foundation's Pioneer award along with Linus Torvalds; in 1999 he received the Yuri Rubinski memorial award. About the Free Software Foundation: The Free Software Foundation, founded in 1985, is dedicated to promoting computer users' right to use, study, copy, modify, and redistribute computer programs. The FSF promotes the development and use of free (as in freedom) software---particularly the GNU operating system (used widely today in its GNU/Linux variant)--- and free documentation. The FSF also helps to spread awareness of the ethical and political issues of freedom in the use of software. This web site, located at http://www.gnu.org is an important source of information about GNU/Linux. The FSF is headquartered in Boston, MA, USA. About GNU: GNU is a Free Software Unix-like operating system. 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Updated: $Date: 2001/05/25 17:57:31 $ $ Author: bkuhn $ __________________________________________________ http://www.gnu.org/press/2001-05-25-NYU.html From dsaklad at gnu.org Fri May 25 22:59:01 2001 From: dsaklad at gnu.org (Don Saklad) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: library newsletters on the web? Message-ID: Published for generations, here's information about The Real Sheet, details from its masthead and cataloging data. It's an exemplary newsletter and one source that makes our city's public libraries a little bit more transparent with respect to how things work back stage behind the scenes as it were. Also, here're others' comparable web page links... _______________________________________________________ The Real Sheet monthly newsletter of the Boston Public Library Professional Staff Association BPLPSA might appear on the web comparable to The New York Public Library Guild http://www.local1930.org/ _______________________________________________________ Boston Public Library workers AFSCME Council 93 http://www.afscmecouncil93.org/ _______________________________________________________ Contract District Council 37 AFSCME AFL-CIO American Federation State County Municipal Employees American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:ixzza2_bjI4:www.local1930.org/contract.pdf+%22district+council+37%22+afscme+afl-cio&hl=en _______________________________________________________ Archives of District Council 37 AFSCME AFL-CIO http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/tam/women/manscrpt.html _______________________________________________________ "The Real Sheet Boston Public Library Professional Staff Association Volume 29, Number 4 April 2001 President's Message Ellen Graf, CLSO [ Central Library Services Office ] [ clso@mbln.bpl.org clso@bpl.org ] April 2001 "...our very own managers are responsible for making their work lives more and more stressful. Staff look to managers to make their work, well, more manageable--..." "...BPL is experiencing a terrible crisis in recruiting and retaining librarians..." "...patrons must wait in long lines to get help and when they finally do get help, it is perfunctory at best..." "...staff becomes exhausted, demoralized and resentful..." "...We notice how staff is added to the financial and human resources departments when needed and how management positions are upgraded..." PSA Membership Meeting March 21, 2001 Mary Bender Recording Secretary Communications Office "...President Ellen Graf reported that the PSA had recently received a letter from [BPL President] Margolis saying that our request to be put on the Trustees' Meeting agenda would not be granted... Since the PSA has observed serveral instances in which Mr. Margolis has demonstrated an unwillingness to talk to the PSA about workplace issues, we will continue to try to meet with the Trustees." Grievance Update: Denice Thornhill, Acting Chief Steward, Audio Visual April 2001 "...Assignment of Research and General Library librarians to McKim [building] Information Desk without notification and without meaningful negotiation with the Association. Initial filing date: 2/26/2001 (Article I Article V Section 1 Article VI Section 4 Article X Section 5 Article XI) Step 2 hearing was held March 9, 2001 Step 3 hearing is being rescheduled..." The Real Sheet BPLPSA Volume 29 Number 4 April 2001 The Real Sheet Boston Public Library Professional Staff Association Vol 29, No 1 January 2001 Table of Contents: Page Features: President's Message 1 Notes From Under 8 Minutes: PSA Membership 2 PSA E-Board [Executive Board] 4 Health and Safety 6 Articles, Notices & Miscellany Book Hook 2 Those 26 Letters 5 From the Archives 6 Upcoming meetings 7 Date for submissions for the nest Real Sheet is the twentieth of each month. Submissions may be edited. 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T > Journal TITLE W > KEYWORDS from journal titles & other fields A > Conference and organization NAMES, editors S > SUBJECT C > Call numbers I > ISSN & other Standard Numbers G > GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS # P > REPEAT Previous Search B > BLC INFORMATION D > DISCONNECT Choose one (T,W,A,S,C,I,G,P,B,D) For further information consult holding library's catalog or ask your Reference Librarian. http://www.blc.org Select from Consortium Research Resources Union List of Serials Click on Go Log on as blc From dspp at operamail.com Sat May 26 01:13:27 2001 From: dspp at operamail.com (D. Popeck) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: intenet porn in library: hostile.. Message-ID: <3B1783C9@operamail.com> Submitted for your perusal http://www.libraryjournal.com/articles/views/editorial/20010101_17158.asp I'd rather not have someone draw an opinion about me based on a sketch in a news blurb. Until I hear more, I'll withhold my opinion. Just my two cents. D. Popeck Madison Library From dan at riverofdata.com Sat May 26 01:36:49 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:49 2005 Subject: Library Networking Job in Idaho Message-ID: <1072117484.20010525233649@riverofdata.com> Posted on behalf of the Idaho State Library. dan LIBRARY CONSULTANT for NETWORKING, Idaho State Library Salary Range: $18.14 to $28.35 hourly ($37,731 to $58,968 annually) The State offers competitive benefits! Do you enjoy the amenities of a metropolitan area, yet appreciate a charming small-town atmosphere that offers outdoor activities, sports, and cultural events? An exciting opportunity exists for a results-oriented Librarian. Located in scenic Southwest Idaho with its unique quality of life, the Idaho State Library offers an opportunity for creativity and growth. Join our dedicated and motivated staff in Boise, Idaho and experience a high degree of responsibility and authority.. The Networking Consultant provides leadership and collaborative support for the implementation of statewide networked services and resource sharing. Responsibilities include working in a collaborative environment to: *Develop, implement, and evaluate statewide plans and programs for networked services and resource sharing, *Coordinate activities of statewide networking and resource sharing advisory groups, *Provide consultation, continuing education, and facilitation in the context of regional and statewide networking and resource sharing issues. This position requires an MLS, consulting skills, knowledge of planning for library networking, experience using information technologies and in providing guidance to groups of librarians in networking and resource sharing activities. Humor, initiative, and flexibility are essential. This position is opened until filled. We will begin reviewing applications on June 15, 2001. Marsha A. Irvin Human Resources Idaho State Library 325 West State Street Boise, Idaho 83702 (208) 334-2150 -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Sat May 26 09:47:57 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:51 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Libweb and the Seven Year Itch References: <005401c0e556$5c5caee0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> <009e01c0e566$54ee4460$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> Message-ID: <006b01c0e5ea$96e26020$061c1ec6@ohiolink.edu> > > >... However, I have the > > time and inclination to do only a very little poking: sites that turn out > > to be unfindable get deleted from the directory. This is especially > > likely to happen with public libraries whose pages live at commercial > > ISPs. When you move from there, there's usually no pointer to where > > you've gone, and no obvious parent web site that might provide the new > > link. I've actually deleted more sites than I've added over the last few > > weeks - a good reason to get a reasonable domain name and stick with it. > > You don't just do a Google search for the missing Library page by titles? > > Yes, that's one of the things I try. Unfortunately, for the same reason I can't find their new links, Google usually can't find their new links. In some cases, Google's top hit is Libweb, which doesn't help that much. :-) Thomas Dowling Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From htheyer at pacbell.net Sat May 26 21:01:55 2001 From: htheyer at pacbell.net (HTheyer) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:51 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Internet porn in library: a 'hostile work environment'... References: Message-ID: <001201c0e648$9fff0ce0$5291c13f@pacbell.net> The thing that is so scary is how many doors this opens. The guy who simply verbally picks on the staff until he gets his way, even when he is dead wrong, is creating a hostile work environment for me. I cringe when he comes in, I hide if I can, and he leaves me exhausted after ten minutes of explaining how he did in fact incur that .25 fine he doesn't want to pay. He constantly berates the library and the staff for not having policies specifically designed for him, he is never satisfied, and he comes back a lot!!! I could make a list of people I would rather not serve, but ya know, they all pay taxes! So, can I say "You are a jerk, and I chose not to help you." No. So, can I sue? No! But according to EEOC logic ... Hmmmmm. I simply think that once this door is open we won't be able to close it again. Can I weed all the UFO and witchcraft books tomorrow? Can I quit carrying Forbes, Fortune, Money, and the Wall Street Journal because I hate what capitalist culture is doing to our society? Can I choose not to buy certain CDs because they offend me? Those lyrics are sometimes printed right on the CD flap, and I have to look at Kid Rock giving me the finger each time I open that CD to check if it is in its case to check it out. Can I get rid of Vogue, Seventeen, and YM because they send the wrong message to young girls. After all, I have to look at the covers every day .... I think we can all see how scary this could get. Hillary Theyer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Messer" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Internet porn in library: a 'hostile work environment'... > Dan Lester said: > > > Of course I think that librarians are regularly exposed to things they > > don't like, whether things done by patrons, information that we may > > find offensive (and certainly not just visual information), and so > > forth, so I think this case is a stretch. But considering a lady > > getting millions of bucks for her own stupidity (the mcdonalds coffee > > in the lap case), nothing would surprise me. > > > > Maybe some librarians should file a case because they had to provide > > information on holocaust revisionism, or abortion, or birth control, > > or religion or . > > I am in 100% agreement with you. > > I hate that "new age" EEOC term- "hostile work environment." Let me tell you all something, that term is sanctimonious bureaucratic nonsense. Working in a library and accidentally being exposed to online porn is not creating a hostile work environment. A guy coming in with a semi-automatic pistol in each hand blazing away like he's in a John Woo movie is creating a hostile work environment. Being forced to deal with an axe wielding maniac is creating a hostile work environment. Having to deal with online porn is something that inconveniences one's morals. > > Your comment about filing a lawsuit because of other things that might offend them is right on the money. These are the same people that will sue because they saw some pornography that some jerk patron intentionally left on the screen but happily direct people in their efforts to find Lady Chatterly's Lover or the Joy Of Sex. And one other thing before I step down off of this soap box: I wonder if it ever occured to these people that some patron figured he'd have a little fun and see if he could whip up a little animosity amongst the librarians? How better to do that than to leave a picture of some totally depraved pornography on the screen for them to find? > > Okay, ranting mode off, just food for thought on a Friday afternoon. :) Have a good three day weekend (If you live in the United States) and a good two day weekend (If you don't.). > > Dan > > -- > Mondai wa > The subject in question... > ------------- > Daniel Messer > Technologies Instructor > Yakima Valley Regional Library > dmesser@yvrls.lib.wa.us > 509-452-8541 ext 712 > 102 N 3rd St Yakima, WA 98901 > ----------- > When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. > -Hunter S. Thompson > > From scott at lights.com Tue May 29 08:40:29 2001 From: scott at lights.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: Library blogs now listed in Libdex In-Reply-To: <005401c0e556$5c5caee0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: I have created a link to library-related weblogs (blogs) on my Libdex index at: http://www.libdex.com If I have missed any, please let me know and I'll add them ASAP. From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue May 29 09:12:44 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Libweb and the Seven Year Itch Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B4DE@mail1.morrisville.edu> As the creator of several internet resources, in lots of cases it is impossible to expect the person that creates a list to find where a site has moved. I only try to track down a site that disappears if that site is of exceptional value. The onus really rests with the owner of that resource to let others know where it has moved. That person can do the Google search and contact those sites with broken links. I do that quite often when I make changes in Not Just Cows or the Wireless Librarian pages. ___________________ Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net/ Not Just Cows: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Wireless Librarian: http://people.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/wireless/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. "You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''- George W. Bush; Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001 From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Tue May 29 09:44:03 2001 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: Splash pages and Flash Message-ID: <010529094403.4a29b@sals.edu> For a sardonic take on Flash-enhanced splash pages, go to: Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Tue May 29 09:47:19 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Libweb and the Seven Year Itch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01052910093703.00840@maroon> On Mon, 28 May 2001, Thomas M G Bennett wrote: > I think Thomas has enough to do (and does a great job) without having to > chase down a website every time it moves. A responsible webmaster should > inform people and sites before moving if possible. After moving use the > free tools on the web to submit your new URL to the search engines. If you > are a webmaster on this list then you should be familiar with Libweb and > think to send Mr. Dowling a note that your URL has changed and the new URL. > IMHO any list like this is for mutual support and should be used as such, > you don't have to be just a listener. > I appreciate the sentiment that everyone should be working to make my life easier, but in fact it shouldn't be necessary to send me every revision if webmasters are doing their jobs responsibly. In my opinion, changing a library's URL should not happen more frequently than changing the phone numbers for the circulation and reference desks--playing musical homepages sends a very clear message that the library doesn't take the web seriously as an information channel. Also IMO, changing a major URL should take at least two years, starting with several months of "We will be moving..." followed by several months of "We have moved..." (with a link and possibly a meta refresh to the new location), followed by at least a year of the old location providing a 301 status to all browsers and indexers that hit it, showing a permanent redirect to the new location. For libweb's purposes--okay, big deal, for Google's purposes, and Altavista's, and your patrons' bookmarks--that 301 message is a hook that can automatically update the indexer, both adding your new location and dropping your old one. Of course, there's a reverse situation. If your homepage is http://lib.foo.edu/ the don't have it fool around with non-200 status codes. I see a growing number of site where that URL gets a 302 or 301 redirect status to, for example, http://lib.foo.edu/flash-up-the-wazoo.html. -- Thomas Dowling Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Tue May 29 12:00:28 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: K-Meleon Follow-Up References: <003601c0e53b$6aa0fb20$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <3B13C79C.E4BD1F13@tln.lib.mi.us> I've been poking around the K-Meleon browser and what I've found so far is very cool. For example: Do you want to disable or re-assign short-cut keys (CTRL-O, CTRL-P)? * You can do this in a configuration file in the user profile. Do you want to remove menu items from the Menu Bar like "File" or "Edit" to create a "kiosk" browser?? & You can simply comment the items out in a configuration file in the user profile. Do you want to remove specific items in the pull-down menus to allow some items to be active (like printing) and others not (like "Save As..")? * You can simply comment the items out in a configuration file in the user profile. How much simpler can it get? It took me just a couple of minutes to create a quick-n-dirty kiosk browser with most of the obvious security holes closed. I'll need to do some more testing but I think it shouldn't take too much work to lock down this browser tight. Again, K-Meleon is a work in progress but I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for a Mozilla/Gecko based browser suitable for library-use. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI From bernies at uillinois.edu Tue May 29 12:27:10 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: Report on a 24x7 collaborative live reference service Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB042326F2@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> I've just completed a new report on the "Ready for Reference" project. The Ready for Reference service is a collaborative 24x7 live reference service being piloted by eight college and university libraries in the Alliance Library System in Illinois. Funding for this grant was provided by the Illinois State Library, a division of the Illinois Office of Secretary of State, using federal Library Services and Technology Act (LSTA) funding. The Ready for Reference project uses the eGain web call center software, as modified and marketed by Library Systems and Services, Inc. (LSSI). The report is available at: http://www.lis.uiuc.edu/~b-sloan/ready4ref.htm Please note that this report replaces/updates an earlier document that used the same URL. The new document is more complete and provides more detail. If you've accessed the earlier report, you will want to go back and check this new version. Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From bernies at uillinois.edu Tue May 29 17:17:44 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:52 2005 Subject: The Future of Digital Reference Services?? (Revisited) Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB04232703@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> It looks like there will be a number of sessions at ALA in San Francisco that deal with digital reference services. As people prepare for these sessions, it might be a good time to reflect on the future of such services. A couple of weeks ago I posted a note asking about the future of digital reference services. I didn't get a whole lot of responses, and someone suggested that might be because my note may have been too cluttered with info on the history of digital reference. So, I am sending another note that's pared down to the basic questions I had, plus one or two additional questions. What might be waiting on the horizon to steal the thunder away from chat-based services? What's the next technology that will impact digital reference services? Will videoconferencing make a comeback as cameras become more commonplace and bandwidth is increased? Will voice-over-IP applications lessen the need for typed chat sessions in Web call center software as microphones become more common as computer peripherals? Will digital reference services become more automated? For example, the OPAL Project at the UK's Open University will attempt, in part, to use agent-based architecture to create a generic "artificial librarian", capable of answering complex questions about library resources. (See http://oulib1.open.ac.uk/wh/research/opal/intro.html). Will we see more "hybrid" services (e.g., chat to conduct a quick reference interview, and e-mail to deliver the answers)? How will collaborative services (e.g., LC's CDRS or the Alliance Library System's "Ready for Reference" project) impact local digital reference services? Will e-mail continue to be the default medium for digital reference services as we experiment with other technologies? I'm sure others can think of additional questions! Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Thu May 31 11:00:13 2001 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Tom Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: Educational Sites for children Message-ID: <3B165C7D.A1BEEBDD@anaheim.lib.ca.us> We are wondering what Internet sites people are using on a regular basis for Children's education. There is a great demand for math games here, and management would like to see a multimedia wildlife encyclopedia added. Other subject areas that you find are in demand will also be added to my list. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Edelblute Public Access Systems Coordinator Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us From sdk at tampabay.rr.com Thu May 31 11:44:30 2001 From: sdk at tampabay.rr.com (Shirl Kennedy) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Educational Sites for children In-Reply-To: <3B165C7D.A1BEEBDD@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Message-ID: Try looking at ALA's "700+ Great Sites" for children: http://www.ala.org/parentspage/greatsites/amazing.html Shirl Kennedy Web Guide Topic Manager eCompany Now http://www.ecompany.com Got a DSL horror story? http://www.ecompany.com/comp/0,2107,181|102,00.html -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Tom Edelblute Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Educational Sites for children We are wondering what Internet sites people are using on a regular basis for Children's education. There is a great demand for math games here, and management would like to see a multimedia wildlife encyclopedia added. Other subject areas that you find are in demand will also be added to my list. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Edelblute Public Access Systems Coordinator Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us From plum at ulink.net Thu May 31 12:05:56 2001 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Educational Sites for children References: <3B165C7D.A1BEEBDD@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Message-ID: <000901c0e9eb$94234660$1001a8c0@CWO.COM> Just in case you don't already have these: http://school.discovery.com/homeworkhelp/webmath/ http://www.coolmath.com/ http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ and http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Edelblute" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Educational Sites for children > We are wondering what Internet sites people are using on a regular basis > for Children's education. There is a great demand for math games here, > and management would like to see a multimedia wildlife encyclopedia > added. Other subject areas that you find are in demand will also be > added to my list. > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Tom Edelblute > Public Access Systems Coordinator > Anaheim Public Library phone: (714) 765-1759 > 500 West Broadway fax: (714) 765-1730 > Anaheim CA 92805 e-mail: thomas@anaheim.lib.ca.us > From stevenxz45 at hotmail.com Thu May 31 12:34:21 2001 From: stevenxz45 at hotmail.com (Steven Zhou) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: how to count the number of visits to an e-title Message-ID: The USPTO library is developing a web page (for the Intranet behind the PTO firewall) holding about 3,000 e-journals and e-books. My supervisor asked me if I can set up a counter to track the number of visits to each of the titles on the page. I will appreciate it if anyone on the net can give me some inputs about it. Thanks. Steven Zhou Electronic Resources Librarian USPTO _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From pecautm at missouri.edu Thu May 31 12:52:09 2001 From: pecautm at missouri.edu (Mark Pecaut) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to count the number of visits to an e-title In-Reply-To: ; from stevenxz45@hotmail.com on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 09:39:47AM -0700 References: Message-ID: <20010531115208.B30503@missouri.edu> On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 09:39:47AM -0700, Steven Zhou wrote: > The USPTO library is developing a web page (for the Intranet behind the PTO > firewall) holding about 3,000 e-journals and e-books. My supervisor asked me > if I can set up a counter to track the number of visits to each of the > titles on the page. I will appreciate it if anyone on the net can give me > some inputs about it. Thanks. If you've got perl you can use this: http://web.missouri.edu/~ellisref/help/clickthroughs.shtml -Mark From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Thu May 31 12:52:17 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to count the number of visits to an e-title References: Message-ID: <3B1676C1.1060507@ohiolink.edu> Steven Zhou wrote: > The USPTO library is developing a web page (for the Intranet behind > the PTO firewall) holding about 3,000 e-journals and e-books. My > supervisor asked me if I can set up a counter to track the number of > visits to each of the titles on the page. I will appreciate it if > anyone on the net can give me some inputs about it. Thanks. > This has popped up a few times, and you may find details in the W4L archive. You only get to log hits on your server, so the trick is to create a script on your server that serves as the target of links from these pages and does an HTTP redirect so the user end up at the correct location (not a meta redirect, not a javascript redirect. Make sure the script is created, and linked to, in such a way that you can tell from its appearances in your web logs where the user was sent to. Of course, people will follow your links to their favorite journal once, bookmark the site, and never show up in your logs again. Oh well, all web usage stats are a polite fiction. Thomas Dowling tdowling@oholink.edu From gprice at gwu.edu Thu May 31 13:14:49 2001 From: gprice at gwu.edu (gprice) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: Update: (Week 13) The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk Update Week 13 Message-ID: <3B172DB3@webmail2.gwu.edu> The Virtual Acquisition Shelf and News Desk Update Week 13 http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com New and Useful Web Sites, Industry News, Full-Text Docs of Interest to the Info Professional. 5/31/01 Hello from Washington D.C. Sorry that a weekly reminder was not available last week. Between a trip to Seattle and Vancouver (two wonderful and gorgeous places) and the fact that Blogspot.Com (the server that hosts the weblog) was unavailable, it was a no go. However, I WAS STILL COMPILING resources and news items so make sure to take some extra time to browse the material from May 17, 2001 ? May 24, 2001. It?s all listed on the main web page. THIS UPDATE will focus on material from May 24, 2001 - May 31, 2001 This e-mail update is a HEAVILY abridged version of what you will find on the weblog. REMEMBER that the weblog is updated throughout the week so feel free to stop by everyday for news and resources. http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com --------- Thanks for the continued support. If I can be of assistance, you know where to find me. Cheers, gary ---------------- Weekly Highlights #13 The Virtual Acquisition Shelf & News Desk http://resourceshelf.blogspot.com Thursday, May 31, 2001 Wealth----Rankings & Lists--United States Cities & Towns--Wealthiest--United States Source: Worth "America's Richest Towns: 2001" Full-Text Document Shelf PACS (Political Action Committees)--Rankings & Lists--United States PACS (Political Action Committees) 2000 Election Cycle Statistics Links to numerous lists and spreadsheets from the Federal Election Commission. Canadian Resource Shelf (2 Items) Economy Rural Canada in the Knowledge-Based Economy Source: Industry Canada "The report examines Rural Canada in areas important to the knowledge-based economy such as innovation, connectedness and a skilled and knowledgeable workforce." News Release and Summary ||| Direct to Full-Text -- Military Annual Report of the Chief of the Defence Staff 2000-2001 ---- Wednesday, May 30, 2001 Web Databases--Science "IBM Partners on Free Scientific Database" Full-Text Document Shelf Privacy--Internet Source: GAO (GAO-01-424, April 27) Internet Privacy: Implementation of Federal Guidance for Agency Use of "Cookies." Energy--Statistics--United States Source: EIA State Energy Data Report, 1999 Moving Images U.K. Based Gateways New Web Resource: The Moving Image Gateway Web Search--Northern Light Web Search Science NL Teams Up With Search4Science ---- Tuesday, May 29, 2001 Information Industry--Dialog Dialog Introduces Quantum2 ---- Sunday, May 27, 2001 Legal--Court of Appeals New Engine: U.S. Court of Appeals Search Engine Travel--Europe New Resource: ViaMichelin Education--Statistics--Michigan New Database: Standard & Poor's School Evaluation Services ---- Saturday, May 26, 2001 Research Libraries Group--Newsletters RLG (Research Library Group) Debuts New Newsletter: ShelfLife Health--Careers New Web Site: Health Occupations (Medline Plus) ---- Thursday, May 24, 2001 Genealogical Research--Online SuperSearcher Diane Kovacs To Teach FREE Online Workshop: Beginners Genealogical Research on the Internet Senior Citizens--United States New Database/Web Service: BenefitsCheckUp Source: Civic.Com Gary D. Price, MLIS Librarian Gary Price Research and Internet Consulting Information Consultant, George Washington University gprice@gwu.edu Gary D. Price, MLIS Librarian Information Consultant, George Washington University gprice@gwu.edu From dan at riverofdata.com Thu May 31 13:26:53 2001 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: Printing powerpoint on the web In-Reply-To: <3B172DB3@webmail2.gwu.edu> References: <3B172DB3@webmail2.gwu.edu> Message-ID: <141610766375.20010531112653@riverofdata.com> We have Win95 computers using IE5.5 for students to use in the library. They have the latest PPT viewer linked to the browser. Some powerpoint presentations will not print (actually, if you hit print button they print a blank page). Printing is greyed out on the file menu. This appears to happen only with some ppt sites, not all. Are the profs doing different things, using different versions, preventing printing somehow? The presentations print fine if viewed on my computer, which has PPT2000 installed instead of the viewer. Any guidance appreciated. dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com www.postcard.org www.gailndan.com From eperez at sparkie.osl.state.or.us Thu May 31 13:53:04 2001 From: eperez at sparkie.osl.state.or.us (Ernest Perez) Date: Wed May 18 15:14:54 2005 Subject: Creating local content Message-ID: <3B168500.2AB527FB@sparkie.osl.state.or.us> You might also want to check out GDIdb at . Economical in $$$ and in software-skills, plus cheaper yet for non-profits. It's a powerful, high-level macro scripting language that's decently easy to pick up. I mean a couple of hours, not weeks. Plus it has a script wizard that writes basic code, which you can then pretty up for prime time. Uses Access or any ODBC-compliant database as the underlying database engine. Rather than trying to act as a CPU-cruncher dynamic update, the scripting language can do scheduled automatic updates (or ad hoc), including automatic uploading/refreshing files on the Web site host machine. This takes away the instant update power need, and substitutes regular updating of HTML files and tables. See their customer implementation list, a couple of interesting examples. For a quickie of the kind of implementation power you can have with not too much effort, note Ohio State Univ's "Worldwide Directory of Finance Faculty and Professionals" at . This example lets you do easy multi-access search on a file of several thousand entries. Cheers, --ernest Ernest Perez, Ph.D. Oregon State Library "How does GDIdb work? The core of GDIdb is a script language that combines a custom (Perl-like) script syntax with ultra-high level script functions that are specifically aimed at Internet/Database scripting tasks. A single GDIdb script function is all that is needed for each of the following tasks: 1/ Generate and iterate through a database recordset created from an SQL query, merging database data with HTML. 2/ Send an e-mail, which may consist of text, database and script-generated data via SMTP (GDIdb Pro only). 3/ Receive e-mails (via POP3) and make the e-mail data available for further script processing or insertion into a database (GDIdb Pro only). 4/ Submit data to a web server CGI script or gather web document or document status information via HTTP GET or POST (GDIdb Pro only)."