From kiehl at hawaii.edu Thu Mar 2 03:22:28 2000 From: kiehl at hawaii.edu (Lois Kiehl) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Peter's Digital Reference Shelf-March edition Message-ID: The March edition of Peter's Digital Reference Shelf is now available on the Gale Group website. This month's column evaluates three vastly different online biographical databases: Biography Resource Center Biography.com Biographical Dictionary These in-depth reviews are illustrated with dozens of screenshots and provide a multi-linked virtual walk-through of the databases. They are written by Peter Jacso, the 1998 recipient of the Louis Shores - Oryx Press Award of the Reference and User Services Association for his discerning database reviews. His column is available free of charge to all users at http://www.galegroup.com/reference/reference.htm See the Archives for databases previously reviewed: Amazon Barnes & Noble Borders Encarta Encyclopedia Deluxe 2000 (CD-ROM) Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia Deluxe 2000 (CD-ROM) Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia 2000 (CD-ROM) American Heritage Dictionary Deluxe Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary WWWebster Dictionary Encarta World English Dictionary Encarta Africana 2000 Britannica.com This notice is posted to multiple lists. Please pardon any duplicates. From lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Thu Mar 2 07:56:56 2000 From: lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Wireless vs. wired LAN for libraries In-Reply-To: <38BE0CB5.4ADD6383@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: Hi. We are putting a wireless network into one of our service centers with 12 computers, 6 of them being in a training center. We are a regional library system and so we are doing this to test the reliability of wireless for our member libraries. We are going with the Lucent WAVELAN product and the 11 mps cards. We also have a couple small publics which have Carnegie buildings which are difficult to wire trying a wireless mode. We had an academic which wanted to try checking out laptops with the cards in them so they could use them anywhere on the library's network, but it was not funded. I look forward to trying this and hearing from others who have experience in this area. Thanks. Lori Bell Automation/Technology Department Alliance Library System 845 Brenkman Drive Pekin, IL 61554 phone: (309)353-4110 fax: (309)353-8281 lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: > I am too thinking about wireless commpunications in our (soon to be > finished, ha ha ha) renovated main floor. > > I think that the "cost" issue should be considered carefully. > > Since computers started showing up, we were promissed that they will > make things cheaper. After two decades we can now safely say that they > didn't. They give us more power for the same price. I think that the > "cost" point of view is not the most important one. > > -- > Hanan Cohen > > Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il > Qiriat Gat Library - http://www.qglibrary.org.il > ***Love and Peace*** > From Shelley.Sloboder at FMR.COM Thu Mar 2 08:29:20 2000 From: Shelley.Sloboder at FMR.COM (Sloboder, Shelley) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Need FrontPage help Message-ID: Hello all, I have scrounged the books, and I am not sure how to do this and the project is on a tight deadline. I am making an intranet site using FrontPage. There are specific guidelines to use and a frameset has been provided. When I try to open this frameset in FP, it will not let me edit the code of the specific pages. I can only see the frameset HTML and preview. Should I be able edit all the pages in the frameset together, and not as individual pages, which is what I have been doing? As I am working on the pages individually, I can't seem to get them to load properly. I actually would love to have a phone conversation with anyone out there as it might be easier than writing. Anyway, thank you all, gentle list members. Shelley Sloboder CTA (617) 392-2674 Shelley.Sloboder@fmr.com From JaniceM at camden.lib.nj.us Thu Mar 2 08:53:00 2000 From: JaniceM at camden.lib.nj.us (JaniceM@camden.lib.nj.us) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Listserves Message-ID: Greetings We are creating an e-mail database of patrons for our public library's PR department. We would like to encourage them to e-mail their names, addresses and other information which we will categorize based on patron type (age, town etc.) We will be periodically sending them brief newsletters and updates on our library's programs. Is anyone familiar with software we can put on our webserver that will help us to create this database? We thought that listserve software might be our best bet but there may be other types of software that would do a better job. Any recommendations for listserve or other types of software that would transfer information from a web form to a database would be appreciated. Thanks. -Janice Janice Harding Masud Camden County Library System janicem@camden.lib.nj.us From rhill at asis.org Thu Mar 2 09:06:57 2000 From: rhill at asis.org (Richard Hill) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Defining Info Architecture, April 7-9 Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000302090650.00f4dad4@mail.asis.org> DEADLILNE FOR DISCOUNT ON REGISTRATION IS MARCH 6. Register online at: http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/index.html "Defining Information Architecture" Boston, April 7-9, 2000 sponsored by the American Society for Information Science (FAQ's below) * Explore definitions for Information Architecture with a panel of leading thinkers and practitioners. * Understand the types of expertise that should and will have an impact on Information Architecture. * Learn about the role that the Information Architect plays in different settings. * Meet your colleagues and build a broader community of information architects. The American Society for Information Science has assembled a compelling list of speakers (http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/speakers.html) representing many relevant perspectives: Anthropology * Data Modeling * Graphic Design * Meta-Data * Human Computer Interaction * Information Design * Information Retrieval * Interface Design * Markup Languages * Librarianship * Technical Communications * Usability Engineering Registration is $450 before 3/6/00, $550 after 3/6/00 (discounted for ASIS members), and includes continental breakfast and lunch. Attendance is limited, so please register soon. Visit http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions and Answers) Q: Who is this conference intended for? A: "Defining Information Architecture" will bring together practicing information architects (IAs), academics who see value in this emerging field, and students who are interested in becoming IAs. Some sample titles of those already registered include: Electronic Media Manager; Sr. Programmer Analyst; User Experience Architect; Knowledge Management Analyst; and Goddess of Information Architecture Registered attendees hail from such organizations as: AT&T; Bigstep.com; Compaq; DuPont; Harvard School of Design; iXL; Microsoft; Mitre; Polaroid; and Smithkline Beecham. Q: Many of the speakers aren't practicing IAs; why not? A: It's important to acknowledge that many established disciplines should contribute to the definition of Information Architecture And we want to probe how these different disciplines relate to Information Architecture, uncovering how, for example, principles of ethnography or usability engineering might improve to Information Architecture practice. Q: There aren't session titles listed in the program; why not? A: As Information Architecture is a relatively new field, a conventional conference replete with standard, loosely-related presentations doesn't fill the bill. Instead, this is the right time to answer questions that haven't been asked before. That's why we've asked speakers to address a common set of issues designed to future discussion and definition of Information Architecture in a spontaneous, flexible, and thought-provoking manner. It's an experimental approach, but one we feel makes sense for a young and emerging field. Q: If this conference is experimental, then why should I attend? A: It's your chance to participate in an important discussion, and help define your field. And the conference will make you a better IA by arming you with a broader perspective on the field, a better set vocabulary to discuss it, and a stronger case to make to your colleagues who may not understand the value of Information Architecture. Q: What sorts of practical knowledge will I get from attending? A: Although there are case studies on the program, this conference is not focused on how to practice Information Architecture; instead, we'll address what it is and who should be doing it. We're confident that the "how" aspects of Information Architecture will be addressed in more detail through your informal discussions with others at the conference, through the expanded personal networks you will develop through participation, and at future conferences. Q: I'm already an IA; what will I get out of attending? A: Besides some new ideas, you'll be getting context: context for your own work as an IA, and communal context that will come from meeting your peer group for perhaps the first time. Additionally, you will have a chance to take leadership in defining and guiding many newcomers to the field who will be at this conference. Q: I'm a student; what will I get out of attending? A: You'll be better prepared to discuss the field you're considering entering, and through meeting practicing IAs will greatly extend your network of professional contacts. --------------- Richard Hill American Society for Information Science 8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501 Silver Spring, MD 20910 (301) 495-0900 FAX: (301) 495-0810 http://www.asis.org From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Thu Mar 2 09:40:42 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Listserves References: Message-ID: <38BE7D6A.D84CB2AB@qglibrary.org.il> Do you want readers to : subscribe manually (i.e. send their names and you add them to the DB) subscribe automatically (they subscribe and you don't have to do anything) ? After answering this question, you can start considering what software to use. -- Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Thu Mar 2 09:53:01 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Listserves In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We use an ASP page to insert data into a database of acquisitions suggestions and general suggestions. You can look it at http://www.libri.ucp.pt/sugestoes/sugestoes.asp If it's something like that you want, I can send you the code. If you're using Microsoft Frontpage 2000, you don't even have to bother with coding. Regards, Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of JaniceM@camden.lib.nj.us Sent: Quinta-feira, 2 de Mar?o de 2000 13:50 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Listserves Greetings We are creating an e-mail database of patrons for our public library's PR department. We would like to encourage them to e-mail their names, addresses and other information which we will categorize based on patron type (age, town etc.) We will be periodically sending them brief newsletters and updates on our library's programs. Is anyone familiar with software we can put on our webserver that will help us to create this database? We thought that listserve software might be our best bet but there may be other types of software that would do a better job. Any recommendations for listserve or other types of software that would transfer information from a web form to a database would be appreciated. Thanks. -Janice Janice Harding Masud Camden County Library System janicem@camden.lib.nj.us From afranklin at willkie.com Thu Mar 2 10:12:10 2000 From: afranklin at willkie.com (Franklin, Alethia) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [web4lib]pdf Message-ID: <76DCE5566DE2D311BB5F0008C7E670E61ACE3E@NYEXCH01> We use Adobe Acrobat 4.0 which allows you to create or scan original forms, which can be edited online and then printed. Alethia Franklin Library Systems Administrator Willlkie Farr & Gallagher From lwhyman at pacbell.net Thu Mar 2 10:23:15 2000 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: getting NT and Windows95 to play nicely ... Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000302072315.00693a88@pacbell.net> Hi. I have been having trouble getting my NT laptop to read Window95 floppy disks. The only way I've been able to do it successfully, is to format the disk on NT first. If I try to put this disk into a Mac, the Mac crashes. (The laptop is a corporate laptop so I'm not sure what's on there that might be figuring into this). Anyway, my new workstation is using Windows95 second edition and now I cannot pass a floppy between the laptop and my workstation at all. I tried using the "format a: /?" command from DOS prompt and found that the allocation size of 64K is shared by both FAT and NTFS systems. However, this format did not solve the problem. Any ideas?? I'm tired of emailing myself to pass files back and forth. (I need a home network, huh?) **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From CDales at city.winnipeg.mb.ca Thu Mar 2 11:57:52 2000 From: CDales at city.winnipeg.mb.ca (Dales, Carol) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Timeout and scheduling software (again!) Message-ID: <83BB703084C7D311BEFA009027C3C09211008E@cowsvpem04.city.winnipeg.mb.ca> (My apologies to anyone who's read this message in its first incarnation. As I originally posted on the Friday afternoon before a major U.S. holiday weekend, I am now re-posting verbatim, hoping to hear from people who might have missed my first appeal! Much thanks to those who did respond.) I am investigating Internet timeout and scheduling software for use in a twenty branch public library system. We would like to resolve our considerable scheduling / timeout issues before our workstations double in number under the Gates Foundation grant! We require software that permits users to use library cards to self book time slots at any branch by telephone or at a library workstation, and to log in with their cards at their scheduled times. It should also limit bookings per user throughout the system, issue warnings to users before logging them off and maintain use statistics. We are examining several products, among them SRI Library Online, Cybraryn and Pharos. I have checked the list Archive, but would still like to hear from anyone who has had recent experience with these or other products. Our major challenge is to select a product that meets our needs as economically as possible, without paying for security and printing control features that are already managed by our NT network. All advice is welcomed- I will summarize for the list and share our experiences. E. Carol Dales Information Services Librarian Winnipeg Centennial Library From transit at primenet.com Thu Mar 2 12:23:19 2000 From: transit at primenet.com (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: How about a .sucks domain? In-Reply-To: <38BE09F8.3E298AF2@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2454314,00.html (This is a proposal by one of Ralph Nader's consumer groups for domain names that would allow users to complain about companies, etc. Other domains would include ".union", ".complaints", ".isnotgreen" and a few others. The actual proposal is at http://www.cptech.org/ecom/icann/tlds-march1-2000.html Seems kind of wacky to me, but . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles P. Hobbs __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ transit@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From JLamkin at sfghdean.ucsf.edu Thu Mar 2 12:25:13 2000 From: JLamkin at sfghdean.ucsf.edu (Lamkin, Jamie) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Information Services Librarian, San Franciso CA Message-ID: <998F897DC98FD2119D2400A0C92DE4425E4E8B@sfghsom.ucsf.edu> PLEASE EXCUSE CROSS-POSTINGS _____________________________________________________________________ INFORMATION SERVICES LIBRARIAN SAN FRANCISCO GENERAL HOSPITAL MEDICAL CENTER The San Francisco General Hospital Medical Center invites applications for the position of Information Services Librarian. This is a University of California San Francisco position based at the Barnett-Briggs Medical Library, San Francisco General Hospital Medical Center. For more information about the library, consult our Web Site at: http://sfghdean.ucsf.edu/barnett Responsibilities: Provide reference/research consultation services in a health sciences library. Teach classes on the Internet, World Wide Web, HTML, and other computer-related topics. Maintain and support library website and Microcomputer Center; analyze software and hardware needs and provide end-user technical support. Maintain collection development of computer-related materials (print and electronic). Prepare user documentation and training materials. Assist in planning and evaluation of library services. Requirements: ALA-accredited Masters degree in Library/Information Science or an equivalent combination of education and experience providing reference and database searching services; knowledge of core biomedical and nursing databases; experience with Windows and Macintosh systems and application software; in-depth knowledge of World Wide Web searching and HTML; excellent training, presentation and documentation proficiency; interpersonal communication strengths and demonstrated ability to work effectively with the public. Preferred: Reference experience in a health sciences library and California Digital Library (UC) search systems preferred. Salary/Benefits: Salary $35,300 - $56,500 commensurate with experience and skills. Excellent University of California benefits package. Application Deadline: Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until the position is filled. Please send cover letter, resume and names of three references to: Joan Fierberg, Library Manager Barnett-Briggs Medical Library San Francisco General Hospital 1001 Potrero Ave., Bldg. 30 San Francisco, CA 94110 jfierberg@sfghdean.ucsf.edu The University of California San Francisco is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Thu Mar 2 12:36:32 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: Library Services to users outside of the library Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B35F@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> My question or issue concerns this. Our college is now a "ThinkPad University." We are fast approaching the point where over half of our students will have laptops (IBM ThinkPads) both wired and wireless. The library will be getting wireless networking for the students by the end of March. I have been trying to research what university and college libraries are doing to provide services or identify unique services to such roaming users. There is virtually nothing of any real significance in the literature (at least via Library Lit. and ERIC). We have instituted a service that uses AOL Instant Manager to allow remote users on their home computers or laptops to contact the reference desk. I am conducting a survey in one of the programs that is almost 100% laptop students to see if there are better or other preferred ways for those users to reach us. What services are libraries providing to such remote or mobile users? We are now testing EZProxy for remote off campus access to our databases and college intranet. What else should we be doing? ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary From ladyhawk at well.com Thu Mar 2 13:06:59 2000 From: ladyhawk at well.com (GraceAnne A. DeCandido) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Library Services to users outside of the library In-Reply-To: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B35F@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> Message-ID: <200003021809.KAA16555@smtp.well.com> Bill-- It was done for public libraries, but has some good links. Take a look at what I did in the PLA Tech Note on Wireless at http://www.pla.org/wireless.html Best, GraceAnne (sig file way below > My question or issue concerns this. Our college is now a "ThinkPad > University." We are fast approaching the point where over half of our > students will have laptops (IBM ThinkPads) both wired and wireless. The > library will be getting wireless networking for the students by the end of > March. I have been trying to research what university and college libraries > are doing to provide services or identify unique services to such roaming > users. There is virtually nothing of any real significance in the > literature (at least via Library Lit. and ERIC). > > We have instituted a service that uses AOL Instant Manager to allow remote > users on their home computers or laptops to contact the reference desk. I > am conducting a survey in one of the programs that is almost 100% laptop > students to see if there are better or other preferred ways for those users > to reach us. > > What services are libraries providing to such remote or mobile users? We > are now testing EZProxy for remote off campus access to our databases and > college intranet. What else should we be doing? > > ----- > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > drewwe@morrisville.edu > Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe > Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary GraceAnne A. DeCandido Blue Roses Editorial & Web Consulting, New York City ladyhawk@well.com http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/gadhome.html What's Ladyhawk reading now? http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/books.html A word after a word after a word is power. --Margaret Atwood From almag at mills.edu Thu Mar 2 15:54:25 2000 From: almag at mills.edu (Alma E. Garcia) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Computer labs...controlling programs that can be run In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Last summer we opened up a Bibliographic Instuction Room that on weekends is open to students as a "lab". We are using Deep Freeze from WinSelect to keep the destktop just the way we want them. You can find out more at www.winselect.com We have not had any problems with this software. If something gets changes a reboot takes the PC back to the configuration we want. It does make the reboot run a little slow, but it has done the trick for us in our setting. On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Charles P. Hobbs wrote: > > We're thinking of setting up a computer lab in the library. Web browsers, > Office 2000 programs, and various pieces of educational software are ok, > but people bringing in video games and running them would not be. What > sort of software would be good in preventing "outside" software from > running (we plan to leave all the disk drives accessable, locking them, as > we do now, is not an option). > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Charles P. Hobbs __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ > transit@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / > / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Alma Garcia Library System Administrator almag@mills.edu (510)430-2021 From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Thu Mar 2 17:47:42 2000 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Computer labs...controlling programs that can be run References: Message-ID: <38BEEF8E.BC3C661E@am.appstate.edu> I've been using the Windows profiles, policy editor, and tweakui since at least December 97. I would expect that policy editor has improved with Win2k, I don't know. I allow the floppy drive to be accessible and set the hard drive not to be available. Although occasionally someone has put files on the hard drive, I haven't had any real damage done. The policy editor allows me to deny access to critical programs like those in Control Panel and the registry. I use all Windows 95 clients which log into my NT server to set the policies. This denies any access at all for invalid logins. The policy tells the client to pick up the profile I set up from a campus Novell server I have space on. The policy defines the desktop, start menu, user.dat and a few other options I forget since 12/97. Thomas "Charles P. Hobbs" wrote: > > We're thinking of setting up a computer lab in the library. Web browsers, > Office 2000 programs, and various pieces of educational software are ok, > but people bringing in video games and running them would not be. What > sort of software would be good in preventing "outside" software from > running (we plan to leave all the disk drives accessable, locking them, as > we do now, is not an option). > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Charles P. Hobbs __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ > transit@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / > / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant II University Library bennettt@am.appstate.edu http://www.library.appstate.edu/webmaster/ Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 3001 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From kgs at bluehighways.com Sat Mar 25 15:13:49 2000 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: PLA Program: Building the Internet Library Message-ID: <011401bf9696$a84ad300$6c21a118@nycap.rr.com> PLA Program: Building the Internet Library, Friday, 2-3:45, Room 218/219 End your conference with a bang by hearing three brave (or dumb) library prognosticators duke it out. Steve Coffman, Karen Schneider and Steve Garwood will present their unique and contradictory opinions about cost models, "world's largest library" concepts, local versus global catalogs, electronic books, patron fees, copyright, and more. The line-up follows: Steve Coffman: Why I'm Right Karen Schneider: Why Steve Coffman is Wrong, Wrong, Wrong Steve Garwood: A Plague On Both Your Houses Question and answer session will follow the presentations... if the presenters haven't been carted off for fighting in public. From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Sun Mar 26 00:43:41 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: We need an Internet Literary Database Message-ID: <38DDA38D.1AAC7F84@qglibrary.org.il> By Jeffery Zeldman - http://www.zeldman.com/coming.html 26 March, 2000 [12:30 am] Every time we mention a book, we feel compelled to link to it, as we'd link to any other subject matter. Problem: With no comprehensive non-commercial book resources on the web, we inevitably end up linking to Amazon.com or a similar commercial resource, and that makes us feel like book pimps. Solution: The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're trying to sell you something. -- Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From spober at manhattan.edu Sun Mar 26 07:41:13 2000 From: spober at manhattan.edu (Stacy Pober) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: netscape quitting References: <200003251815.KAA20500@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <38DE0496.1E57@manhattan.edu> >From what I've read here and there, version 4.7 seemed to have more than its fair share of compatibility problems and bugs. We use the same security software combo as you do with Netscape 4.61 (and before that, with 4.5 and 4.08) without any problems to speak of. Incidentally, when looking for older versions of Netscape to download, I generally have the best luck in using a search engine like altavista and searching with a command something like: +netscape +4.61 +download -netscape.com I get rid of netscape.com because otherwise most of the results are pages that say something like, "and you can dowload Netscape 4.61 from [link to Netscape home page]" Some of the older versions are archived on Netscape's site, but they bury the links so well, I get weary poking around for them. It's easier to get a copy from another site. As for Dan Lester's comments about ditching Netscape for IE, I can only think it's one of those 'to each his own' situations. I find the options much easier to manipulate in Netscape, which is important to me. Plus, I've gotten used to the shortcuts and commands. I haven't seen users having problems with the program at our library, so we're sticking with Netscape for the time being. Stacy Pober Information Alchemist Manhattan College Libraries spober@manhattan.edu > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:38:29 -0600 > From: "Kevin Justie" > To: web4lib@webjunction.org > Subject: netscape quitting > Message-ID: <200003242238.OAA17262@webjunction.org> > Mime-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > We have four public Internet PC (3 Win95, 1 Win98) which worked problem-free > with Netscape 4.05. Two weeks ago I upgraded them to 4.7 and now Netscape > randomly quits several times a day on each computer; the computer itself > does not crash, and Netscape doesn't truly crash in the sense of giving any > kind of error -- it just quits and leaves the user at the desktop. > > Security software on the PCs is Fortres and WinSelect Kiosk; because the > computers were added at different times, they have various versions of these > programs, but one of the PCs has the latest versions of both and still > experiences the problem. I also run a small WinBatch script for resetting > to the home page after a period of non-use. > > Has anyone else experienced this problem with Netscape? Any suggested > solutions? > > Thanks! > > kevin > > Kevin Justie > Ass't. Director, Head of Technical and Automated Services > Morton Grove Public Library > Morton Grove, IL > (847) 965-4220 > From carole at leita.org Sun Mar 26 09:15:19 2000 From: carole at leita.org (Carole Leita) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: finding netscape versions (was netscape quitting) In-Reply-To: <38DE0496.1E57@manhattan.edu> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000326060058.00d22e90@earthlink.net> The way to avoid all the Netscape Web pages hoo-hah, and yet get the software from the official source, is to go directly to Netscape's FTP site. From ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/ you can get versions 4.03 on - all flavors. If you want older, go to ftp://archive:oldies@archive.netscape.com/archive/index.html - their products archive. Back in the old days when they were releasing a new version every few months it was also good to know that you could go to servers ftp2 through ftp8 if the main FTP server was busy. Carole Leita Coordinator, Librarians' Index to the Internet, http://lii.org/ InFoPeople Trainer/Consultant, http://infopeople.org/ At 01:36 AM 3/26/2000 -0800, Stacy Pober wrote: >Incidentally, when looking for older versions of Netscape to download, I >generally have the best luck in using a search engine like altavista and >searching with a command something like: >+netscape +4.61 +download -netscape.com >I get rid of netscape.com because otherwise most of the results are >pages that say something like, "and you can dowload Netscape 4.61 from >[link to Netscape home page]" Some of the older versions are archived >on Netscape's site, but they bury the links so well, I get weary poking >around for them. It's easier to get a copy from another site. From darganm at maple.iren.net Sun Mar 26 10:22:20 2000 From: darganm at maple.iren.net (Michael Dargan) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: Sniffers? Message-ID: I'm using the Elron Internet Manager to gather stats about web usage by = public and staff. It's rather expensive and has many features that I = don't need or want. For example, I don't need to actually block or keep = track of individual usage. I really want to show how many unique sites = have been visited over a period of time, the top 100 most popular sites = and the busiest workstations. Does anyone have a cheap, reliable way to grab this traffic and pull = reports out of it? --- Michael J. Dargan office: 319 291 4496 Technical Systems Administrator fax: 319 291 6736 Waterloo and Cedar Falls Public Libraries Waterloo, IA 50701 From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Sun Mar 26 15:10:52 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Sniffers? References: Message-ID: <004301bf975f$6bd87b60$3f866420@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Dargan > I'm using the Elron Internet Manager to gather stats about web usage by = > public and staff. It's rather expensive and has many features that I = > don't need or want. For example, I don't need to actually block or keep = > track of individual usage. I really want to show how many unique sites = > have been visited over a period of time, the top 100 most popular sites = > and the busiest workstations. > > Does anyone have a cheap, reliable way to grab this traffic and pull = > reports out of it? grep? Excel? Reports like these invariably come from the raw log files maintained by servers, proxies, or firewalls. All they do is read them line for line, break them into separate fields, and sort or tabulate based on values in those fields. To do the same, all you need is to know the format of the log file--what fields go in what order and what divides them. If you're an Excel jockey, go for it; it would also be a textbook exercise for Perl 101. The only thing you'd lose from a commercial package would be niceties like on-the-fly pie charts. Thomas Dowling Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From walterg at yorku.ca Sun Mar 26 15:17:38 2000 From: walterg at yorku.ca (Walter W. Giesbrecht) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Sniffers? References: Message-ID: <38DE7062.F8CD57E9@yorku.ca> Michael Dargan wrote: > > I'm using the Elron Internet Manager to gather stats about web usage by > public and staff. It's rather expensive and has many features that I = > don't need or want. For example, I don't need to actually block or keep > track of individual usage. I really want to show how many unique sites > have been visited over a period of time, the top 100 most popular sites > and the busiest workstations. > > Does anyone have a cheap, reliable way to grab this traffic and pull = > reports out of it? I believe Analog will do all this, and for free, too. -- Walter Giesbrecht walterg@yorku.ca Data Librarian (416) 736-2100 ext. 77551 York University 113Y SSB ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Librarians are the secret masters of the world. They control information. Don't ever piss one off." -- Spider Robinson From jeff at tcnet.org Sun Mar 26 16:57:59 2000 From: jeff at tcnet.org (Jeff) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] We need an Internet Literary Database In-Reply-To: <38DDA38D.1AAC7F84@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: [...] > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're > trying to sell you something. The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. I do believe someone pointed out a site/service the other day that allowed you to link to it with an ISBN as an argument, and that site would then redirect you (based upon previously set preferences ala cookie) to any one of a number of reference sites and/or booksellers. http://www.linkbaton.com/ Currently, the only options for LinkBaton linking to books appear to be commercial, mainly online booksellers. There are many possibilities if you toss Library of Congress, Z39.50, local web-based catalogs, and a few others into the mix. I do believe linkbaton is open source, or soon to be. Unable to find any reference to it on the site. -jeff -- Jeff Godin Network Specialist Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network jeff@tcnet.org - 231/932-8546 voice From phgray at tccd.net Sun Mar 26 17:13:37 2000 From: phgray at tccd.net (Paul H. Gray) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001bf9770$888349a0$903e1f26@oemcomputer> Welcome to the real world -- where every major advance or undertaking in recent memory has happened because someone saw a chance to make a profit. The kind of undertaking you are talking about will happen only/if/when some creative soul finds a way to make money from doing it. SO - This is a great idea -- some of of you creative/greedy souls get busy :-) > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: > > [...] > > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet > > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're > > trying to sell you something. > > The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. > > I do believe someone pointed out a site/service the other day that allowed > you to link to it with an ISBN as an argument, and that site would then > redirect you (based upon previously set preferences ala cookie) to > any one of a number of reference sites and/or booksellers. > http://www.linkbaton.com/ Currently, the only options for LinkBaton linking to books appear to be commercial, mainly online booksellers. There are many possibilities if you toss Library of Congress, Z39.50, local web-based catalogs, and a few others into the mix. I do believe linkbaton is open source, or soon to be. Unable to find any reference to it on the site. -jeff -- Jeff Godin Network Specialist Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network jeff@tcnet.org - 231/932-8546 voice From eric at openly.com Sun Mar 26 18:22:48 2000 From: eric at openly.com (Eric Hellman) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the mention! Look for a major overhaul of the LinkBaton site with much improved user interface to go public later this week. At 2:02 PM -0800 3/26/00, Jeff wrote: >On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: > >[...] > > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet > > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're > > trying to sell you something. > >The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. > >I do believe someone pointed out a site/service the other day that allowed >you to link to it with an ISBN as an argument, and that site would then >redirect you (based upon previously set preferences ala cookie) to >any one of a number of reference sites and/or booksellers. > >http://www.linkbaton.com/ > >Currently, the only options for LinkBaton linking to books appear to be >commercial, mainly online booksellers. > >There are many possibilities if you toss Library of Congress, Z39.50, >local web-based catalogs, and a few others into the mix. We're a bit behind schedule for opening up the linking to libraries at large. The Library of Congress uses session IDs in such a way as to prevent direct ISBN linking via http; if we knew of any direct interfaces, we'd add it in a flash. > >I do believe linkbaton is open source, or soon to be. Unable to find any >reference to it on the site. > LinkBaton is not open source; it is not software, but rather a service. Some of the http interfaces are open, others are not. Don't worry, literary databases will happen. Eric Eric Hellman Openly Informatics, Inc. http://www.openly.com/ 21st Century Information Infrastructure LinkBaton: Your Shortcuts to Information http://linkbaton.com/ From dlords at library.utah.edu Sun Mar 26 20:15:56 2000 From: dlords at library.utah.edu (Debra Lords) Date: Wed May 18 14:24:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database References: <000001bf9770$888349a0$903e1f26@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <38DEB64C.ED91A1E5@library.utah.edu> Why does it have to wait to be a money maker? What happened here? Did libraries die out from under me while I was working on computers? Did all the librarians drop off the face of the earth in some huge maelstrom that went unreported because no one cared? A literary database of the sort you talk about is what librarians are supposed to do. The central storage arena for theses -- who developed that? Not profit minded entrepreneaurs. Librarians. Who has cooperatively worked on shared cataloging of major microform sets? No bottom profit line here. Librarians. A friend of mine asked if the library profession is dying. Maybe it is. These are the types of things librarians used to pull together and do, dragging non-access out of the mud. Did technology destroy the ability to do that? I don't think so. So the ALA cooperative efforts, research library efforts, all those massive projects that used to get done are still needed. Technology doesn't change that. So its time for one of the librarians committees to start working on getting it done. Create the solution to the need. Don't wait for an entrepreneur to do it. Take care of the patrons. If you don't, who will? If a method doesn't exist, why not create the method? -- Debbie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Debra Lords Experience is what you dlords@library.utah.edu have just right after ACLIS Labs you need it. 585-9810 "Paul H. Gray" wrote: > > Welcome to the real world -- where every major advance or undertaking in > recent memory has happened because someone saw a chance to make a profit. > The kind of undertaking you are talking about will happen only/if/when some > creative soul finds a way to make money from doing it. > SO - > This is a great idea -- some of of you creative/greedy souls get busy :-) > > > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: > > > > [...] > > > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet > > > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're > > > trying to sell you something. > > > > The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. > > > > I do believe someone pointed out a site/service the other day that allowed > > you to link to it with an ISBN as an argument, and that site would then > > redirect you (based upon previously set preferences ala cookie) to > > any one of a number of reference sites and/or booksellers. > > > http://www.linkbaton.com/ > > Currently, the only options for LinkBaton linking to books appear to be > commercial, mainly online booksellers. > > There are many possibilities if you toss Library of Congress, Z39.50, > local web-based catalogs, and a few others into the mix. > > I do believe linkbaton is open source, or soon to be. Unable to find any > reference to it on the site. > > -jeff > > -- > Jeff Godin > Network Specialist > Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network > jeff@tcnet.org - 231/932-8546 voice From tim_mori at ncsu.edu Fri Mar 3 09:19:23 2000 From: tim_mori at ncsu.edu (Timothy S. Mori) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: silverlinker Message-ID: <38BFC9EB.F3514E37@ncsu.edu> I was wondering if anyone has had experience using SilverLinker. We finally installed it yesterday, added the appropriate line to the erl server configuration file, and restarted the ERL server this morning. So far I have not noticed any difference in our searches. The documentation does not indicate that there are any additional steps that are required for this to work, but I'm assuming that this is incorrect. I'm thinking that we need to create a portfolio for SilverLinker, but I'm not sure how to go about doing this and what needs to be included. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim -- ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Timothy S. Mori Systems Librarian for Digital Projects NCSU Libraries ? North Carolina State University tim_mori@ncsu.edu ? 919-515-6182 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Fri Mar 3 09:34:38 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Computer labs...controlling programs that can be run In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We have developed PACfilter, which is freely available at http://www.libri.ucp.pt/systems/general/pacfilter/default.htm and we have NT machines with policies and Norton Ghost so that we can 1) Refuse access to some windows (like "save as"), using pacfilter 2) Refuse access to some sites (x-rated, for example), using pacfilter 3) Restrict access to the task manager, using policies 4) Rebuild a workstation with a CD image made with Norton Ghost in 2 minutes (and more five minutes to change the IP address, machine name and domains, because we only have one image for all PC's) Regards, Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Alma E. Garcia Sent: Quinta-feira, 2 de Mar?o de 2000 20:53 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Computer labs...controlling programs that can be run Last summer we opened up a Bibliographic Instuction Room that on weekends is open to students as a "lab". We are using Deep Freeze from WinSelect to keep the destktop just the way we want them. You can find out more at www.winselect.com We have not had any problems with this software. If something gets changes a reboot takes the PC back to the configuration we want. It does make the reboot run a little slow, but it has done the trick for us in our setting. On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Charles P. Hobbs wrote: > > We're thinking of setting up a computer lab in the library. Web browsers, > Office 2000 programs, and various pieces of educational software are ok, > but people bringing in video games and running them would not be. What > sort of software would be good in preventing "outside" software from > running (we plan to leave all the disk drives accessable, locking them, as > we do now, is not an option). > > Thanks! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > Charles P. Hobbs __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ > transit@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / > / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > Alma Garcia Library System Administrator almag@mills.edu (510)430-2021 From zalbenrl at alverno.edu Thu Mar 2 11:21:49 2000 From: zalbenrl at alverno.edu (Robin L Zalben) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: HTML assistance needed Message-ID: <38BE951D.D08BCF3F@alverno.edu> Hi all, I'm working on our new library web page, and I have some questions regarding fonts and images. I'm the "coder" and someone else has been doing designing using Word. (I hand code) She would like to use Trebuchet MS as the font for one of the pages. Is this a common enough font to use, is there a way I can find out the best options of fonts to use? What is the Mac equivalent etc.... The other option would be to make this text into jpgs, but I know that will slow down the page. Secondly, she has made a jpg for behind the text...I'm trying to figure out how to insert a picture behind a table. How can I make it go across the whole table. the web page (while not ready for public viewing) is available at http://depts.alverno.edu/library/library.html The picture needs to go under the table to the right. (The section with Electronic Databases, selected web links etc.) TIA, Robin Zalben Automation Librarian Alverno College Milwaukee, WI From jharvey at irving.lib.tx.us Fri Mar 3 10:12:16 2000 From: jharvey at irving.lib.tx.us (John C Harvey) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance needed References: <38BE951D.D08BCF3F@alverno.edu> Message-ID: <38BFD650.987EF4F8@irving.lib.tx.us> Robin L Zalben wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working on our new library web page, and I have some questions > regarding fonts and images. > > I'm the "coder" and someone else has been doing designing using Word. (I > hand code) She would like to use Trebuchet MS as the font for one of > the pages. Is this a common enough font to use, is there a way I can > find out the best options of fonts to use? What is the Mac equivalent > etc.... The other option would be to make this text into jpgs, but I > know that will slow down the page. I suppose you could set up your tag to say: And that would cover just about everyone. > Secondly, she has made a jpg for behind the text...I'm trying to figure > out how to insert a picture behind a table. How can I make it go across > the whole table. Just add this to your tag: background="filename.jpg" ----(Imagine a fancy inline graphic here.)---- John C Harvey jharvey@irving.lib.tx.us "There must be more to life than having everything." --Maurice Sendak The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect official policies of the Irving Public Library or the City of Irving. Contents under pressure From jharvey at irving.lib.tx.us Fri Mar 3 11:02:24 2000 From: jharvey at irving.lib.tx.us (John C Harvey) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] MS Trebuchet typeface follow-up References: <38BE951D.D08BCF3F@alverno.edu> Message-ID: <38BFE210.F687EEE7@irving.lib.tx.us> Robin L Zalben wrote: > I'm the "coder" and someone else has been doing designing using Word. (I > hand code) She would like to use Trebuchet MS as the font for one of > the pages. Is this a common enough font to use, is there a way I can > find out the best options of fonts to use? What is the Mac equivalent > etc.... The other option would be to make this text into jpgs, but I > know that will slow down the page. In addition to what I said previously about setting your tag, you can also direct your users to: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/ where they can download the free Trebuchet font, as well as others in the "Core fonts for the Web" series. ----(Imagine a fancy inline graphic here.)---- John C Harvey jharvey@irving.lib.tx.us "There must be more to life than having everything." --Maurice Sendak The views and opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect official policies of the Irving Public Library or the City of Irving. Contents under pressure From eckleyt at mville.edu Fri Mar 3 11:23:49 2000 From: eckleyt at mville.edu (Tami-Jo Eckley) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: FrontPage Links Message-ID: <200003031123.AA7602650@mail.mville.edu> I will try to present this question as clearly as I can but it may be difficult. Is there any shortcut, using FrontPage, to post a replacement page for an existing page, without going through each page throughout the website and updating the link to it? I hope that is clear. Thanks. -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library ______________________________________ -- From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Fri Mar 3 11:49:47 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] FrontPage Links In-Reply-To: <200003031123.AA7602650@mail.mville.edu> Message-ID: There is probably a better way to do it than this... But it works... 1) Delete the page you want to re-link 2) Create a new page with the same name with the new contents 3) Rename the page Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Tami-Jo Eckley Sent: Sexta-feira, 3 de Mar?o de 2000 16:18 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] FrontPage Links I will try to present this question as clearly as I can but it may be difficult. Is there any shortcut, using FrontPage, to post a replacement page for an existing page, without going through each page throughout the website and updating the link to it? I hope that is clear. Thanks. -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library ______________________________________ -- From transit at primenet.com Fri Mar 3 12:11:25 2000 From: transit at primenet.com (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: Computer Lab Part 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for all of the suggestions. It looks like we will be going with Centurion Guard, plus some policy/registry editing to keep most nonsense out of the systems. But a problem has come up that hasn't really before--physical security of the systems. We've locked down our existing equipment with bike locks and cables, and the system cases are closed with an uncommon type of screw (not a flat-blade or Philips screw), so no one has been able to take computers or parts thereof. But we're getting some newer equipment (Dell Dimension XPS) that can be easily opened with a turn of a thumbscrew. Already, someone has opened an office computer and removed a modem. The thumbscrews are part of the cover, so they can't easily be removed. Anyone have any ideas on how these machines can be better secured? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles P. Hobbs __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ transit@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eckleyt at mville.edu Fri Mar 3 12:25:44 2000 From: eckleyt at mville.edu (Tami-Jo Eckley) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] FrontPage Links Message-ID: <200003031225.AA12714314@mail.mville.edu> I am replying to my own message because I realize that I indeed did not present it correctly. What I want to do, is replace an existing page with a temporary page but as I write this I just realized that I can save the original with a different name, then post the new page temporarlily, then save the original back. O.K. I answered my own question live right before your very eyes! ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tami-Jo Eckley" Reply-To: eckleyt@mville.edu Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:17:48 -0800 (PST) I will try to present this question as clearly as I can but it may be difficult. Is there any shortcut, using FrontPage, to post a replacement page for an existing page, without going through each page throughout the website and updating the link to it? I hope that is clear. Thanks. -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library ______________________________________ -- -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library ______________________________________ -- From donaldb at library.tmc.edu Fri Mar 3 12:42:59 2000 From: donaldb at library.tmc.edu (Donald Barclay) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? Message-ID: <00fd01bf8537$ea8148a0$3c1e44c0@d133.library.tmc.edu> I was looking at the Zope homepage (yyy.zope.org), and it got me to wondering: With the growing emphasis on dynamic websites--and the growing number of open-source tools that allow you to create dynamic websites--is the library world approaching the point where libraries are going to start saying goodbye to online catalog vendors (SIRSI, Innopac, VTLS, et al.) and start developing web-based, home-grown catalogs? While I understand it takes a lot of work to create a home-grown catalog, it strikes me that a home-grown catalog could allow libraries to fully integrate their catalogs into their web presence. For example, if a user comes to a library homepage and does a site search on "bubonic plague," the results would include on only the library's links to www.bubo.com, but also a list of bubonic-plague related items (book, journals, videos, archival materials, etc.) held by the library. To me, this is clearly preferable to having separate "Search This Site" and "Search The Online Catalog" options. Other advantages of owning your own catalog range from complete control over user and cataloging interfaces to the potential cost savings that could result from no longer having to pay a vendor. I'm not necessarily advocating that everyone run out and build their own online catalog, but I am curious as to what steps, if any, libraries have taken in this direction or, at least, in the direction of making the union of website and catalog transparent to the end user. Donald A. Barclay Houston Academy of Medicine- always the beautiful answer Texas Medical Center Library who asks the more beautiful question donaldb@library.tmc.edu -- e. e. cummings From rmacdona at grcc.ctc.edu Fri Mar 3 12:28:46 2000 From: rmacdona at grcc.ctc.edu (Rachel MacDonald) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] FrontPage Links Message-ID: Let me make sure I have the situation right first: you have an old page which you want to replace with a new page, and the new page has a different file name than the old page? That being the case, here's what I would do: 1. Rename the old page on the server so that its name matches that of the new page. This will allow Frontpage to do its automatic link updating. 2. Then simply upload the new page and overwrite the old one. Hope that makes sense, Rachel :) rmacdona@grcc.ctc.edu Holman Library, GRCC Auburn, WA -----Original Message----- From: Tami-Jo Eckley [mailto:eckleyt@mville.edu] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 8:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] FrontPage Links I will try to present this question as clearly as I can but it may be difficult. Is there any shortcut, using FrontPage, to post a replacement page for an existing page, without going through each page throughout the website and updating the link to it? I hope that is clear. Thanks. -- Tami-Jo Eckley Electronic Services & Media Librarian Manhattanville College Library Purchase, New York 10577 http://www.mville.edu/library ______________________________________ -- From malund at mail.wm.edu Fri Mar 3 13:32:31 2000 From: malund at mail.wm.edu (Mack Lundy) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <00fd01bf8537$ea8148a0$3c1e44c0@d133.library.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <38C0053F.1BC62051@mail.wm.edu> This is an interesting idea and I can see the MARC format being replaced by something less rigid and more web oriented. The web interface is becoming a standard for public display. That said, there are functions other than searching that are performed by library management systems. I wonder how Circulation, Acquisitions, and Serials control would fit into this dynamic web site model. Mack Donald Barclay wrote: > > I was looking at the Zope homepage (yyy.zope.org), and it got me to > wondering: With the growing emphasis on dynamic websites--and the growing > number of open-source tools that allow you to create dynamic websites--is > the library world approaching the point where libraries are going to start > saying goodbye to online catalog vendors (SIRSI, Innopac, VTLS, et al.) and > start developing web-based, home-grown catalogs? > > While I understand it takes a lot of work to create a home-grown catalog, it > strikes me that a home-grown catalog could allow libraries to fully > integrate their catalogs into their web presence. For example, if a user > comes to a library homepage and does a site search on "bubonic plague," the > results would include on only the library's links to www.bubo.com, but also > a list of bubonic-plague related items (book, journals, videos, archival > materials, etc.) held by the library. To me, this is clearly preferable to > having separate "Search This Site" and "Search The Online Catalog" options. > Other advantages of owning your own catalog range from complete control over > user and cataloging interfaces to the potential cost savings that could > result from no longer having to pay a vendor. > > I'm not necessarily advocating that everyone run out and build their own > online catalog, but I am curious as to what steps, if any, libraries have > taken in this direction or, at least, in the direction of making the union > of website and catalog transparent to the end user. > > Donald A. Barclay > Houston Academy of Medicine- always the beautiful answer > Texas Medical Center Library who asks the more beautiful question > donaldb@library.tmc.edu -- e. e. cummings -- Mack Lundy (malund@mail.wm.edu) Library Systems Manager Swem Library College of William and Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187-8794 Voice: 757.221.3114 Fax: 757.221.2635 From nppublib at pa.net Fri Mar 3 13:20:17 2000 From: nppublib at pa.net (Jeanne Heicher) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: GaleNet poetry database Message-ID: <38C00261.6E03273F@pa.net> Web4Liber's Last year Gale offered their GaleNet poetry database free on the Web for the month of April, in celebration of National Poetry Month. Does anyone have any information on if this is going to be repeated this year? Jeanne Heicher xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Newport Public Library Hours: 316 N. 4th St. Newport PA 17074 Mon. 1 PM - 8 PM (717)567-6860 FAX (717)567-3373 Tues. 10 AM - 5 PM Wed. 1 PM - 8 PM nppublib@pa.net Thurs. 10 AM - 8 PM http://www.pa.net/nppublib Fri. 1 PM - 5 PM Sat. 10 AM - 2 PM Thank you for supporting your community library. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TIA ======================================================= Kyle Harriss voice: (218) 726-6546 UMD Library email: kharriss@d.umn.edu 10 University Drive Duluth, MN 55812 From KNUTHP at LEAVENWORTH.ARMY.MIL Fri Mar 3 15:28:43 2000 From: KNUTHP at LEAVENWORTH.ARMY.MIL (Knuth, Pat KNUTHP) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Anonymous users on Lib computers Message-ID: Kyle, What kind of OS & networking are you using? We have NT Workstation and Novell Netware, but our issues may be different than if you're using NT server & Win9x Pat Knuth Electronic Resources Librarian Combined Arms Research Library US Army Command & General Staff College Ft. Leavenworth, KS 66027 (913) 758-3019 knuthp@leavenworth.army.mil -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Harriss [mailto:kharriss@d.umn.edu] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 1:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Anonymous users on Lib computers Mar 3, 2000 Web4Libbers, The "public" computers in our library have never been authenticated by logon/password. Our students, staff and faculty - and anyone who walked in our door - could always sit down at a PC and start using the networked resources for research. This is about to change. All users will have to log in before gaining access to the network. We may be giving temporary network accounts to local residents who request access. Has anyone else gone through this change? Any issues we should be warned of, so we can start working through those issues now? TIA ======================================================= Kyle Harriss voice: (218) 726-6546 UMD Library email: kharriss@d.umn.edu 10 University Drive Duluth, MN 55812 From rcripe at dupagels.lib.il.us Fri Mar 3 16:50:59 2000 From: rcripe at dupagels.lib.il.us (Ron Cripe) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: FrontPage Links Message-ID: <02e601bf855a$8fd009f0$b400030a@nt400.dupagels.lib.il.us> Basically, I don't think you can do this within FrontPage. One of the purposes of using FrontPage is to update links when you rename pages, the links are automatically updated, I searched the menus and the help file and saw no way to turn off this "feature." You are trying to circumvent the very thing the program is written to do. The answer is to not let FrontPage know what you are doing. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Let's assume we start with these pages: this_is_page_a.htm - Title: Page A this_is_page_b.htm - Title: Page B page_a_and_b_links_to_this_page.htm - Title: Page C temp_page.htm - Title: Page D The scenario is: We want to replace "Page B" with "Page D" but not lose "Page B". "Page D" should still link to "Page C" When "Page D" time is up, put things back the way they were at the start. With the web site closed. I.E. not open in FrontPage, log in to your server and get to a shell prompt. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Unix: Use cd to make the directory where these pages reside, your current directory. mv temp_page.htm very_temp.htm mv this_is_page_b.htm temp_page.htm mv very_temp.htm this_is_page_b.htm "Page B" and "Page D" have now switched places. Carry out the exact same set of commands to swap the pages again. You could make a Unix script do this for you. -------------------------------------------------------------------- WinNT: Use cd to make the directory where these pages reside, your current directory. ren temp_page.htm very_temp.htm ren this_is_page_b.htm temp_page.htm ren very_temp.htm this_is_page_b.htm "Page B" and "Page D" have now switched places. Carry out the exact same set of commands to swap the pages again. You could make a DOS batch file do this for you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ron Cripe rcripe@dupagels.lib.il.us Systems Manager DuPage Library System http://www.dupagels.lib.il.us 127 South First Street Geneva, IL 60134 Voice/VoiceMail: 630-232-8457 Ext: 208 Fax: 630-232-0699 Automation Department direct line: Voice/VoiceMail: 630-232-4674 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- >-----Original Message----- >From: Tami-Jo Eckley [mailto:eckleyt@mville.edu] >Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 8:18 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WEB4LIB] FrontPage Links > > >I will try to present this question as clearly as I can but it may be >difficult. Is there any shortcut, using FrontPage, to post a replacement >page for an existing page, without going through each page throughout the >website and updating the link to it? I hope that is clear. Thanks. > >-- >Tami-Jo Eckley >Electronic Services & Media Librarian >Manhattanville College Library >Purchase, New York 10577 >http://www.mville.edu/library >______________________________________ > >-- > From bsmith at linc.lib.il.us Fri Mar 3 17:15:37 2000 From: bsmith at linc.lib.il.us (Brian Smith) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: Mouse practice software? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000303161537.01325070@vax.linc.lib.il.us> We have Solitaire available on several of our public computers, and we've been suggesting that people who want to learn to use a mouse (pretty much a required skill, now that we've implemented a Web interface on our OPACs) put in some time playing it. However, it's come to our attention that quite a few folks don't know how to play hard-copy solitaire, so we're laying a bit of a double-whammy on them. A game that one can play without needing to learn any rules would be better. Can anyone suggest (free and fun, and appropriate for adults) software good for developing mouse skills? A website designed for this purpose might also work, although several mouse-training sites I've looked at are rather dull. I didn't see anything mentioned in the Web4Lib archives. Brian Smith Assistant Head of Adult Services Villa Park (IL) Public Library http://www.villapark.lib.il.us/ bsmith@linc.lib.il.us ... But writing only on my own behalf =========== "What can I say? Librarians rule." -- Regis Philbin (Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, 17 Feb. 2000) From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Fri Mar 3 17:49:10 2000 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Mouse practice software? References: <3.0.5.32.20000303161537.01325070@vax.linc.lib.il.us> Message-ID: <38C04166.C3C852FB@am.appstate.edu> How about a nice game of Dr. Who Concentration where you click on different blocks to match a pair of images: http://lserv.simplenet.com/concentration.html Thomas Brian Smith wrote: > > We have Solitaire available on several of our public computers, and we've > been suggesting that people who want to learn to use a mouse (pretty much a > required skill, now that we've implemented a Web interface on our OPACs) > put in some time playing it. However, it's come to our attention that > quite a few folks don't know how to play hard-copy solitaire, so we're > laying a bit of a double-whammy on them. A game that one can play without > needing to learn any rules would be better. > > Can anyone suggest (free and fun, and appropriate for adults) software good > for developing mouse skills? A website designed for this purpose might > also work, although several mouse-training sites I've looked at are rather > dull. I didn't see anything mentioned in the Web4Lib archives. > > Brian Smith > Assistant Head of Adult Services > Villa Park (IL) Public Library > http://www.villapark.lib.il.us/ > bsmith@linc.lib.il.us > .. But writing only on my own behalf > =========== > "What can I say? Librarians rule." > -- Regis Philbin (Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, 17 Feb. 2000) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant II University Library bennettt@am.appstate.edu http://www.library.appstate.edu/webmaster/ Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 3001 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu Fri Mar 3 18:25:27 2000 From: creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu (John Creech) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Anonymous users on Lib computers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Kyle Harriss wrote: > Web4Libbers, > > The "public" computers in our library have never > been authenticated by logon/password. > > Our students, staff and faculty - and anyone who > walked in our door - could always sit down at a > PC and start using the networked resources > for research. > > This is about to change. All users will have to > log in before gaining access to the network. > We may be giving temporary network accounts to > local residents who request access. > > Has anyone else gone through this change? > Any issues we should be warned of, so we can start > working through those issues now? Kyle, some stuff comes to mind immediately - we moved to a similar method last year, and have since gone back to a generic login: 1. Have extra user accts. for your reference folks to login people in on, or leave some machines wide open for the public, or have a generic login for x number of machines. 2. Do all of your faculty have campus accts.? And are they comfortable logging in and using those accounts, and using file-sharing software, working on a network, etc.? Get any simple and reasonable utility in place to make sure you can accomodate them, and they won't get their grumpy faces on whenever they come into the library. 3. Expect to do alot of training at service desks, at machines, in classes. Expect some impact on reference staff, some frustration on the part of both patrons and staff when the network is unwell. 4. Will students have accounts activated when they come in? Or will there be a way to activate their accts. via say, campus computing's web site? And who is supposed to help them with networking/software/file sharing utilities and problems? Get phone #s, names, names of offices and office #s etc. to refer them to for help. 5. Fire low; they're riding shetlands. Good luck. John Creech Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian Central Washington University Library 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu From dlords at library.utah.edu Fri Mar 3 23:39:56 2000 From: dlords at library.utah.edu (Debra Lords) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <38C0053F.1BC62051@mail.wm.edu> Message-ID: <38C0939C.D67DA00F@library.utah.edu> Mack Lundy wrote: > > This is an interesting idea and I can see the MARC format being replaced > by something less rigid and more web oriented. The web interface is > becoming a standard for public display. That said, there are functions > other than searching that are performed by library management systems. > I wonder how Circulation, Acquisitions, and Serials control would fit > into this dynamic web site model. > > Mack > > Donald Barclay wrote: > > > > I was looking at the Zope homepage (yyy.zope.org), and it got me to > > wondering: With the growing emphasis on dynamic websites--and the growing > > number of open-source tools that allow you to create dynamic websites--is > > the library world approaching the point where libraries are going to start > > saying goodbye to online catalog vendors (SIRSI, Innopac, VTLS, et al.) and > > start developing web-based, home-grown catalogs? > > > > While I understand it takes a lot of work to create a home-grown catalog, it > > strikes me that a home-grown catalog could allow libraries to fully > > integrate their catalogs into their web presence. For example, if a user > > comes to a library homepage and does a site search on "bubonic plague," the > > results would include on only the library's links to www.bubo.com, but also > > a list of bubonic-plague related items (book, journals, videos, archival > > materials, etc.) held by the library. To me, this is clearly preferable to > > having separate "Search This Site" and "Search The Online Catalog" options. > > Other advantages of owning your own catalog range from complete control over > > user and cataloging interfaces to the potential cost savings that could > > result from no longer having to pay a vendor. > > > > I'm not necessarily advocating that everyone run out and build their own > > online catalog, but I am curious as to what steps, if any, libraries have > > taken in this direction or, at least, in the direction of making the union > > of website and catalog transparent to the end user. > > > > Donald A. Barclay > > Houston Academy of Medicine- always the beautiful answer > > Texas Medical Center Library who asks the more beautiful question > > donaldb@library.tmc.edu -- e. e. cummings > > -- > Mack Lundy (malund@mail.wm.edu) > Library Systems Manager > Swem Library > College of William and Mary > Williamsburg, VA 23187-8794 > Voice: 757.221.3114 Fax: 757.221.2635 Adding to what Mack says: The database that creates the Online Catalog requires masterful programming. Consider that, under MARC, many non-fiction books have 1 author, 1 title, 1 alternate title, 1 series, and 3 subject headings. If you have a library with 100,000 non-fiction volumes, you have 700,000 catalog access points in the portion of the database to which users have access, but this is not the full database. And what if you want keyword search on the full title field, author field and contents fields? To have the search paradigm work fast enough that the patron is not twiddling their thumbs is -- well -- not a trivial matter. This picture also ignores the fiction, serials, and non-book formats. Another thing that has to be considered is if you want current Circulation information available online. Oooooooooohh! And to let people know something is on order, but not yet received -- received, but not yet processed. Eeeeeeeeeeee! This is a "where" that *I* would not want to go. Libraries couldn't each afford the team (yes, team) of programmers needed to get such a thing ready and efficient. And lets clarify a term, they generally are not "online catalog vendors", they are integrated system vendors. The complexities listed above are why they came to be in the first place, growing out of individual library system attempts to automate various processes. Cost drove them to a wider customer base than just "in-house". We won't soon move away from this model. -- Debbie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Debra Lords Experience is what you dlords@library.utah.edu have just right after ACLIS Labs you need it. 585-9810 From quinn at indexdata.dk Sun Mar 5 04:23:34 2000 From: quinn at indexdata.dk (Sebastian Hammer) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? In-Reply-To: <18989.000304@84.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000305100301.02be8850@bagel.indexdata.dk> At 22:56 04-03-00 -0800, Dan Lester wrote: [snip] >developing the systems in question. Even the vendors that develop >"small systems" (Follett, Winnebago, etc.) have tens of programmers >continually at work on development and upgrades. And the basic system >any of them first came out with wasn't written by one person in his or >her spare time on the job. A fully functional library information system will never be one man's hobby-project if you already have a day job. The one type of library which *can* realistically develop their own libary system is the largish university library that maintains good relationships with a local Computer Science or Engineering lab. The challenges of building a good library information system are easily complex enough to make a juicy project for a group of graduate students. I've come across a few systems that started out this way - including some that are now major players on the commercial market, and some which are still local, but maintained and extended in a wonderful synergy between the training and information management branches of their institution. Also - while the tasks of building efficient search paradigms and circulation management systems are daunting, you don't have to start from scratch. The increasing pick-up of international standards like Z39.50 and ILL in various places mean that there exists both excellent starting points for your design (through the standard specifications) and free software components which can be glued together to form a system. General-purpose tools like relational databases (also available in open source variants) make the task of building stuff like circulation and acquisition modules less daunting, technically. But again - a good system of this kind is generally a team effort and requires a lot of skill and background knowledge *as well as* a good understanding of library operations. But hey - ten years ago, most people would have shrugged their shoulders at the idea of a commercially viable operating system like Linux growing out of hobby- and volunteer efforts. --Sebastian -- Sebastian Hammer Index Data ApS Ph.: +45 3536 3672 Fax: +45 3536 0449 From dlords at library.utah.edu Sun Mar 5 04:18:06 2000 From: dlords at library.utah.edu (Debra Lords) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <38C1FAE1.FD8DCD00@nslsilus.org> Message-ID: <38C2264E.6B3F799E@library.utah.edu> > > There is nothing wrong with attempting to design a library > system from the ground up. Though it isn't necessarily easy, > that shouldn't discourage anyone away from doing it. I say > this having taken my share of programming and database courses > in my undergraduate years in computer science. > Attempting to design on one's own time is one thing, but to use the library time? Bugging the folks who are busy doing their own work. I'm sorry, but I simply can't agree -- even for small systems that involve an acquisition component. Anyone who's library director today agrees to the in-house creation of a fully integrated system has a fool for a boss. If a librarian or library programmer has that level of skill, use that talent to address problems that, as yet, have no solutions. All too often, librarians think about the here and now but seem oblivious to the infrastructure needs of maintenance which includes re-coding for changes in the environment, in this case the Web Browser environment. Vendors are working on the Web interface piece, slowly I grant. Clunky, too. It, again, is not a trivial piece, what with there being multiple browsers that have new versions with new capabilities (and new challenges) all of the time. But why re-invent the wheel? Recall the old addage, 'why is it that libraries never have enough money to do it right in the first place, but they always have the money to do it over.' Use that ability to create extension through API hooks in existing systems -- something many libraries can use and benefit from. Take a leap across the barrier into untouched territory or where commercial products are horribly expensive because they are the only ones doing it. Don't do same-same over-over. Boldly go where no one has gone before. -- Debbie +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Debra Lords Experience is what you dlords@library.utah.edu have just right after ACLIS Labs you need it. 585-9810 From mccannhe at metronet.lib.mi.us Sun Mar 5 14:30:26 2000 From: mccannhe at metronet.lib.mi.us (Helga McCann) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] AOL mail access in the library In-Reply-To: <38C18B9F.CF4DF42F@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: AOL does now have web access for email. netmail.web.aol.com ================================================ Helga F. McCann mccannhe@metronet.lib.mi.us Southfield Public Library 248-948-0460 Southfield, MI 48076 USA http://www.sfldlib.org ================================================ On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: > O mighty list, can you help me? > > Sometimes we have visitors from the US who want to read their mail from > AOL. > What do I need to do in order to help them? > Do I need to have a special account? Install AOL mail reader? Does AOL > have webmail access? > > Thanks > > p.s. If any readers of this message is from Chicago and is Jewish, you > might want to know that our library is partly funded by the Chicago > chapter of Partnership 2000. You are most welcome to visit us. > > -- > Hanan Cohen > > Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il > Qiriat Gat Library - http://www.qglibrary.org.il > In association with : Bashan Systems > ***Love and Peace*** > From MikDinkins at aol.com Sun Mar 5 17:22:35 2000 From: MikDinkins at aol.com (MikDinkins@aol.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:44 2005 Subject: Library network and Internet reliability statistics? Message-ID: <22.2c427c4.25f4382b@aol.com> Subj: Network reliability statistics? Date: 3/5/00 To: 4 listservs I work for a library system with 11 branches serving a county population of 405k. The County's communications department was privatized and the service for hardware and software problems leaves something to be desired. Our public Internet access stations (about 42 of them) crash several times each day, and have since they were installed more than 1 year ago. Our networked staff computers are plagued with a myriad of problems resulting in an enormous waste of time. Is anyone aware of any statistics on the reliability of public Internet and Windows NT staff workstations from organizations which may be similar in size to mine? Logged down time and number of requests for repair to providers Help Desk would be helpful. I would find anectdotal info of interest, however, responses from system administrators of library computer services would be most helpful. If I keep complaining about this lack of service without being able to back up my arguments with hard data, I may soon be looking for employment elsewhere. Thanks Mike From daniel.chudnov at yale.edu Sun Mar 5 19:41:53 2000 From: daniel.chudnov at yale.edu (Daniel Chudnov) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:44 2005 Subject: jake-0.5 Message-ID: (pardon x-posts) jake (Jointly Administered Knowledge Environment) is a reference source which makes finding, managing, and linking online resources easier for library patrons and staff. It does so by managing online resource metadata with a database union list, title authority control, linking tools, and a local holdings layer. New in jake-0.5: * subjects -- 65% of x-ref'd titles have at least one of dewey, lc, or lcsh subject/class (Ben Steinberg) * localization -- now several ways exist to create local jake search pages that can (optionally) look for local holdings information * database lists with jakeids readily available for view or delimited text download * several bugfixes and minor ui tweaks We jump to 0.5 because the subjects and localization pieces are significant additions. Many thanks go to Ben for making the subjects appear. There is a new whitepaper explaining how localization works available here: http://jake.med.yale.edu/docs/localize.pdf Please post any thoughts you have about how well the model described in this whitepaper might work for you to jake-list or jake-devel-list. The fine print: jake is free for use, copying, modification, or redistribution under the terms of the GNU GPL. You can try jake out here: http://jake.med.yale.edu/ ...and read more about how it works and how to use it where you are: http://jake.med.yale.edu/docs/about.html Regards, -Dan Daniel Chudnov Systems Architect Cushing/Whitney Medical Library Yale University School of Medicine (203) 785-4347 _______________________________________________ jake-devel-list maillist - jake-devel-list@vectra.med.yale.edu http://vectra.med.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/jake-devel-list From lgreenpd at cc.curtin.edu.au Sun Mar 5 19:12:43 2000 From: lgreenpd at cc.curtin.edu.au (Peter Green) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] silverlinker In-Reply-To: <38BFC9EB.F3514E37@ncsu.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000306080900.00ad1ce0@cc.curtin.edu.au> Tim Your question would be better directed to SPIN-L@LISTSERV.SILVERPLATTER.COM the erl list. You can get information about the list at http://www.silverplatter.com/listserv.htm If you haven't already looked at Silverplatter's support web site that would be worth a look. http://www.silverplatter.com/support/welcome.htm Cheers Peter At 06:19 3/03/2000 -0800, Timothy S. Mori wrote: >I was wondering if anyone has had experience using SilverLinker. We >finally installed it yesterday, added the appropriate line to the erl >server configuration file, and restarted the ERL server this morning. So >far I have not noticed any difference in our searches. The documentation >does not indicate that there are any additional steps that are required >for this to work, but I'm assuming that this is incorrect. > >I'm thinking that we need to create a portfolio for SilverLinker, but >I'm not sure how to go about doing this and what needs to be included. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks > >Tim > >-- >??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > Timothy S. Mori > Systems Librarian for Digital Projects > NCSU Libraries ? North Carolina State University > tim_mori@ncsu.edu ? 919-515-6182 >??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ------------------------------ Peter Green Senior Librarian Systems and Technology Unit Library & Information Service Curtin University of Technology lgreenpd@cc.curtin.edu.au phone 08 9266 4293 fax 08 9266 2424 http://www.curtin.edu.au/curtin/library/staffpages/pgreen.html From danforth at tiac.net Sun Mar 5 19:25:05 2000 From: danforth at tiac.net (Isabel Danforth) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:44 2005 Subject: new? files Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.20000305192505.00860b70@sunspot.tiac.net> I guess that I had allowed my Netscape (6.1) on my home pc do auto updating. A few days ago I saw a message about updating registry settings or something like that. Meanwhile, I see several files in my user directory that are being updated with each use of Netscape. These include not just cookies.txt and netscape.hst, but prefs.js, liprefs.js and secmod.db Anyone know what these last 2 files are doing? I did go into my preferences and uncheck 'enable SmartUpdate'. Isabel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Isabel L. 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Buy directly online at http://store.westgroup.com From charta at inetdirect.net Mon Mar 13 07:25:02 2000 From: charta at inetdirect.net (Christopher Handy) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] File Sizes on the Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I seem to remember hearing that the Mac Finder "lies" about the true > file size. Does anyone know if this is true? Do you know what size > I should believe? As already mentioned, the Finder's "Get Info" option will display the "true" file size. I suppose you could view approximately the same information within a Finder window if you put your files on a RAM disk. Or more convenient might be to write a simple AppleScript droplet to total the file sizes for you on your hard drive. But I don't think any these will necessarily give you the same size reported by your FTP client, since they all probably include the files' resource forks in addition to the data. To get the actual data size of your web pages, you might want to try something like the freeware Calculate Size CMM plug-in: http://www.vcnet.com/hide/download/cal.html It generates both data and resource fork totals for any selected files (or folders) and is easily accessed from a contextual menu. Christopher Handy Indianapolis, Indiana From leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu Mon Mar 13 08:56:30 2000 From: leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: eBook and Stephen King's new novel In-Reply-To: <200003111924.LAA07112@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000313075630.013b4570@newton.baruch.cuny.edu> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, "S. Michael Kim": >I am very curious about the consequences. >What if patrons wanted the item? There might be no alternative format of >the 'work' other >than eBook format....at least for a while. I am wondering if there is any >library which manages eBook-based collection serving to patrons. If that's >the case, I would like to know how the library handle the collection. >I think there should be acquisition, cataloging, and circulation aspects >involved. >Also, there will be concerns regarding choice of medium, such as PC format, >proprietary eBook device format,etc. It would be nice to have variety of >opinions >from different areas. You've brought up an extremely hot issue which libraries are just starting to grapple with--literally just starting to grapple with since the terms--or at least some of them--are just being worked out by the U.S. Copyright Office. You can find more information at http://www.loc.gov/copyright/1201/anticirc.html http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/1201/comments/ For ALA's comments, see: http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/1201/comments/162.pdf The links came from a NINCH announcement. If anyone wants the complete announcement go to: http://www.cni.org/Hforums/ninch-announce/2000/0016.html LEO -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Leo Robert Klein 17 Lexington Ave, Box H0520 Web Coordinator & New York, NY. 10010 Digital Resources Developer tel: (212) 802-2373 Newman Library/Baruch College fax: (212) 802-2360 http://newman.baruch.cuny.edu email: Leo_Klein@baruch.cuny.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From bdeg at bartlesville.lib.ok.us Mon Mar 13 10:07:57 2000 From: bdeg at bartlesville.lib.ok.us (Beth DeGeer) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: Building the perfect system? Message-ID: Hi all: We are in the process of budgeting for some additional PCs that would access online library database subscriptions only. If money were no object, what would a "dream system" look like, both hardware and software? They would need to restrict IP addresses to only the subscriptions, have a nice user interface, print easily (we charge for printing, so maybe a printing card system?), and have a 5 or 6 year life. We have a LAN in place. Thanks for your opinions. Beth DeGeer Youth Services Librarian/PC Administrator Bartlesville Public Library, Bartlesville OK bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us http://www.bartlesville.lib.ok.us From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Mon Mar 13 10:13:52 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Building the perfect system? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: About the printing issues, how do you control prints ? We are using a system to manage that, but we would like to share experiences with other libraries. Regards, Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Beth DeGeer Sent: Segunda-feira, 13 de Mar?o de 2000 15:09 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Building the perfect system? Hi all: We are in the process of budgeting for some additional PCs that would access online library database subscriptions only. If money were no object, what would a "dream system" look like, both hardware and software? They would need to restrict IP addresses to only the subscriptions, have a nice user interface, print easily (we charge for printing, so maybe a printing card system?), and have a 5 or 6 year life. We have a LAN in place. Thanks for your opinions. Beth DeGeer Youth Services Librarian/PC Administrator Bartlesville Public Library, Bartlesville OK bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us http://www.bartlesville.lib.ok.us From gary at flvax.ferg.lib.ct.us Mon Mar 13 10:07:03 2000 From: gary at flvax.ferg.lib.ct.us (Gary Giannelli) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: Cataloging Services Supervisor position available Message-ID: <4.1.20000313100700.0093f850@flvax.ferg.lib.ct.us> Cataloging Services Supervisor The Ferguson Library, Stamford CT’s Public Library, is seeking a Cataloging Services Supervisor. Position to supervise, plan and coordinate the cataloging of print and non-print materials for the Library system. Make recommendations to the Director of MIS regarding planning, policies, procedures for cataloging digital sources and websites. Supervise the Cataloging Services team. Salary Range: $40,711 - $56,697. 4 weeks vacation, generous holiday, full medical and dental benefits. Must have MLS, supervisory experience, knowledge of OCLC, MARC formats, AACR2, public library experience desirable. Knowledge of recent trends in cataloging. If interested please send/fax resume to Thomas Blair, HR Director, The Ferguson Library, One Public Library Plaza, Stamford, CT 06904 (fax: 203-357-9098). ======================================================== Gary Giannelli Director of MIS Ferguson Library, 1 Public Library Plaza, Stamford, CT 06904 203-964-1000 ext 270; fax 203-357-9098 gary@fergusonlibrary.org ======================================================== From tgarrison at kckpl.lib.ks.us Mon Mar 13 11:25:23 2000 From: tgarrison at kckpl.lib.ks.us (Teresa Garrison) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: Position opening Message-ID: <38CD1673.FC7397C1@kckpl.lib.ks.us> WEB APPLICATIONS COORDINATOR. Coordinate all aspects of Intranet services for the Kansas City, Kansas Public Library system. Identify, develop, implement and help manage database and other software projects which will enhance the library's web services. Assist in the development and management of web-based online catalog services and statistical report development. Requires MLS or B.S. in Computer Science with significant experience with Internet and Intranet technologies including but not limited to HTML, Javascript, CGI, and graphic design software. Advanced knowledge of Microsoft Access, Excel and Windows NT. Ability to work within a team environment essential. Salary range: $24,500-$38,800.00. Expected hiring range: $24,400.00-$37,000.00. Attractive benefits program. Interested persons should send cover letter, resume and 3 professional references to: Tammie Sharp, Personnel Coordinator Kansas City, Kansas Public Library 625 Minnesota Avenue Kansas City, KS 66101 Questions may be sent to tsharp@kckpl.lib.ks.us -- Teresa Garrison, Assistant Director Kansas City, Kansas Public Library 625 Minnesota Avenue Kansas City, KS 66101 913-279-2223 or 913-551-3280 ext. 2223 tgarrison@kckpl.lib.ks.us Fax 913-551-3221 http://www.kckpl.lib.ks.us/ From korvinc at oclc.org Mon Mar 13 12:45:09 2000 From: korvinc at oclc.org (Korvin,Catherine) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:55 2005 Subject: Employment Opportunity--Assistant Editor Message-ID: <69B539772492D311BC2800062950C94B18EE68@OAPAIS1-SERVER> OCLC Public Affairs Information Service has an employment opportunity for an Assistant Editor. -------------------------------------------------------- OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. 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RESPONSIBILITIES: The assistant editor is responsible for the indexing and abstracting of print and electronic materials, including the Internet, for the PAIS database and for archiving electronic materials. He or she Assigns subject headings, composes abstract-like contents notes, and determines author entries which cannot readily be identified by editorial assistants, primarily for Internet materials as well as print materials. Assists in selection of public policy Internet sites and documents for indexing and abstracting, PAIS web page development and reference. Also assists other editors in selection of Internet materials. May assist in selection of print articles, monographs, and other materials for indexing. Under direction of editor, maintains consistent selection and indexing policies for Internet materials, and assists in monitoring the quality of Internet records in the PAIS databases. Performs other duties as assigned by the editor. 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Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/lib_home.htm From dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu Mon Mar 13 13:51:08 2000 From: dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu (Dennis VanArsdale) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:56 2005 Subject: Novell login limiting Message-ID: <16FE96A15B0@gw.westark.edu> We are a Novell campus, and have the Novell Login (v.3.02 (2.0)) on our public-use workstations. Workstations use Win95 and Win98. No WinNT allowed at this time. While we have a standard login name and password for our users to access our catalog and databases in the library, a number of students deliberately reboot the workstations in an attempt to login with their own names so they can reach network services available elsewhere on campus (email, word processing, etc.) under their own logins. This messes up the workstation for all subsequent users and often locks it up completely. It doesn't matter if they succeed, either -- they keep trying anyway. Signs, of course, are useless. We have WinSelect, but it cannot do anything about a login that occurs so early in the boot procedure. I would like to lock in the name and login, or -- better yet -- automate the login process so users never even see a login prompt. Any suggestions that would work under these conditions, or perhaps add-on software that could automate or lock the login? As stated: no, we can't switch to NT at this time. ################################################### Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian Boreham Library, Westark College********* P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu http://www.westark.edu ################################################### From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Mon Mar 13 19:40:14 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:56 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Novell login limiting In-Reply-To: <16FE96A15B0@gw.westark.edu> Message-ID: I think TWEAK UI can manage that. Don't know if you're using Novell's client or Microsoft client for Netware. TWEAK UI is in the Win98 CD at /tool/reskit/ somewhere... You should install it from the INF file. Regards Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Dennis VanArsdale Sent: Segunda-feira, 13 de Mar?o de 2000 18:54 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Novell login limiting We are a Novell campus, and have the Novell Login (v.3.02 (2.0)) on our public-use workstations. Workstations use Win95 and Win98. No WinNT allowed at this time. While we have a standard login name and password for our users to access our catalog and databases in the library, a number of students deliberately reboot the workstations in an attempt to login with their own names so they can reach network services available elsewhere on campus (email, word processing, etc.) under their own logins. This messes up the workstation for all subsequent users and often locks it up completely. It doesn't matter if they succeed, either -- they keep trying anyway. Signs, of course, are useless. We have WinSelect, but it cannot do anything about a login that occurs so early in the boot procedure. I would like to lock in the name and login, or -- better yet -- automate the login process so users never even see a login prompt. Any suggestions that would work under these conditions, or perhaps add-on software that could automate or lock the login? As stated: no, we can't switch to NT at this time. ################################################### Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian Boreham Library, Westark College********* P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu http://www.westark.edu ################################################### From centans at tampabay.rr.com Mon Mar 13 23:01:16 2000 From: centans at tampabay.rr.com (Sharon) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:56 2005 Subject: Position Vacancy: Electronic Information Librarian at University of South Florida Message-ID: <38CDB98C.8590ECD1@tampabay.rr.com> CROSS POSTED: Please excuse duplications Electronic Information Librarian: Assistant University Librarian, University of South Florida, St. Petersburg. Twelve-month, non-tenure appointment. Salary $34,500 ? negotiable. Qualifications: MLS from ALA-accredited program; experience with Windows NT, network server management, networked CD-ROMs, and Web design. Ability to work cooperatively with library and computing staff, excellent communication skills, and demonstrated ability to lead or direct group work. Preferred qualifications include: Experience with Sun Solaris 2.6 or comparable UNIX platforms for Web services, knowledge of information technology, and reference experience. Familiarity with specialized library applications such as Ariel, ILLiad, and OCLC Access Suite. Responsibilities: Maintain and troubleshoot network of desktop systems, CD-ROM databases, NOTIS operations and Web site. Provide technical support and training. Some Reference service required. Apply to: Send letter of application, vita, and names, addresses and telephone numbers of three references to Deborah Henry, Chair of Search Committee, Poynter Library, USF ? St. Petersburg, 140 Seventh Avenue South, St. Petersburg, FL 33701. Application deadline: March 31, 2000, or until position is filled. 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Can anyone confirm this or point to its new location?] This list will be distributed to Web4Lib on the 1st and 15th of each month with the subject "Web4Lib Frequently Asked Questions List". If your mail client can filter incoming messages based on their subject lines, and if you would rather not see this message again, simply set it to delete or otherwise refile messages with that subject heading. If you think there are questions which should be addressed on this list (especially if you can provide the answer!) please contact Thomas Dowling, tdowling@ohiolink.edu. From dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu Wed Mar 15 08:50:49 2000 From: dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu (Dennis VanArsdale) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19AE93D2868@gw.westark.edu> Thanks, but while the function is there, it doesn't seem to work with Novell. Probably only with NT, is my guess, but neither the Win95 Tweak or the 98 version have the automatic login work with our Novell. ====================================== Date sent: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:46:03 -0800 (PST) Send reply to: lfd@libri.ucp.pt From: "Luis Domingues" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting > I think TWEAK UI can manage that. Don't know if you're using Novell's client > or Microsoft client for Netware. TWEAK UI is in the Win98 CD at > /tool/reskit/ somewhere... You should install it from the INF file. > > Regards > > Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt > Biblioteca Universitária João Paulo II Home Page: > http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ > Universidade Católica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 > Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 > 1600 Lisboa > Portugal > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On > Behalf Of Dennis VanArsdale > Sent: Segunda-feira, 13 de Março de 2000 18:54 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Novell login limiting > > We are a Novell campus, and have the Novell Login (v.3.02 (2.0)) > on our public-use workstations. Workstations use Win95 and > Win98. No WinNT allowed at this time. > > While we have a standard login name and password for our users > to access our catalog and databases in the library, a number of > students deliberately reboot the workstations in an attempt to login > with their own names so they can reach network services available > elsewhere on campus (email, word processing, etc.) under their > own logins. This messes up the workstation for all subsequent > users and often locks it up completely. > It doesn't matter if they succeed, either -- they keep trying anyway. > Signs, of course, are useless. > > We have WinSelect, but it cannot do anything about a login that > occurs so early in the boot procedure. > > I would like to lock in the name and login, or -- better yet -- > automate the login process so users never even see a login prompt. > > Any suggestions that would work under these conditions, or > perhaps add-on software that could automate or lock the login? > As stated: no, we can't switch to NT at this time. > > ################################################### > Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian > Boreham Library, Westark College********* > P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 > (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu > http://www.westark.edu > ################################################### > ################################################### Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian Boreham Library, Westark College********* P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu http://www.westark.edu ################################################### From dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu Wed Mar 15 09:06:04 2000 From: dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu (Dennis VanArsdale) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000314164830.007ba800@pop-server> Message-ID: <19B29FA025D@gw.westark.edu> Thanks for the suggestions. I'll bounce some of these off our campus computer center people ASAP. Point to make: we wish we could offer everything too. Someday, when we have an ideal situation and all the workstations we could use, perhaps we will. Until then, we just envy those like you and try to block the non-research uses. ============================================ Date sent: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:00:26 -0800 (PST) Send reply to: mnyerges@rochester.rr.com From: Mike Nyerges To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting > At 06:25 AM 3/14/00 -0800, Jeff wrote: > > > >On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Luis Domingues wrote: > > > >> I think TWEAK UI can manage that. Don't know if you're using Novell's > client > >> or Microsoft client for Netware. TWEAK UI is in the Win98 CD at > >> /tool/reskit/ somewhere... You should install it from the INF file. > > > >I believe that TweakUI has no effect on Client32 workstations, and based > >on past experience, the autologin features only work at boot time. Nothing > >prevents the user from logging out of the workstation and logging in again > >as another user... > > >Jeff Godin > > I agree with Jeff regarding TWEAK UI. But getting back to Dennis' > situation. I'm guessing that your running at least Netware 4. Now I'm > wondering if you can set the client on your library machines to operate in > Bindery mode with a preferred server. You're not running system polciies > are you? Or using Zen to write to the machine's regsitry? Even if you are > running polcies, you could point to a policy file tailored for your > machines, set for Bindery, not NDS, and with a preferred server. On the > preferred server, you could set up just the library user? Is there a way to > deny users the DNS and restrict them to a server running in bindery mode? > And does the library have its own server? > > Sorry if I'm just throwing out ideas that leads you nowhere. This situation > is totally different from ours, where we're interested in providing as many > of our resources (including library resources) over the network to as many > machinbes as possible--everything available to everyone anytime. > > Interesting problem. There's got to be a solution. Let me know what you > come up with! > > > Mike Nyerges > Library Media Specialist > Canandaigua Academy Library > http://www.canandaigua.k12.ny.us/academylibrary/ > mailto://mnyerges@wfmail.canandaigua.k12.ny.us > > ################################################### Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian Boreham Library, Westark College********* P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu http://www.westark.edu ################################################### From dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu Wed Mar 15 09:08:40 2000 From: dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu (Dennis VanArsdale) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000314164830.007ba800@pop-server> Message-ID: <19B35554530@gw.westark.edu> Oh, yes, to answer this specific question: No. We have a dedicated server only for our INNOPAC (library catalog) but it does not control the Novell campus system, and we can't use it to control the behavior of the workstations, by directive of campus policy. ============================================== Date sent: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:00:26 -0800 (PST) Send reply to: mnyerges@rochester.rr.com From: Mike Nyerges To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting > And does the library have its own server? ################################################### Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian Boreham Library, Westark College********* P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu http://www.westark.edu ################################################### From Robert.VanderHart at umassmed.edu Wed Mar 15 10:04:09 2000 From: Robert.VanderHart at umassmed.edu (VanderHart, Robert) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Open Directory Project editors Message-ID: <93307F07DE63D211B2F30000F808E9E5016F65D5@edunivexch02.umassmed.edu> Is anyone on Web4Lib currently serving as a volunteer editor for the Open Directory Project (ODP) at http://dmoz.org ? I used to be an editor in a couple of categories until sometime late last year. When I tried to login with my username and password, I received the following: This ODP login has been inactivated. When I tried to contact someone at ODP, my email went unanswered. Then I tried to re-apply as an editor, and I received confirmation (this was back in late December) that my application would be reviewed and a message would be sent to me. But since then, I've heard nothing. I sent a couple of emails since that time that have also gone unanswered. Has anyone had a similar experience with ODP recently? Does anyone know of a way other than email to contact ODP? Could they be so far behind that they haven't gotten to my applications yet? I would appreciate any light that anyone can shed on this problem. Please reply directly to me. Robert J. Vander Hart Reference Librarian/Government Documents Specialist The Lamar Soutter Library University of Massachusetts Medical School 55 Lake Avenue North Worcester, Massachusetts 01655 (508) 856-3290 Robert.VanderHart@umassmed.edu http://library.umassmed.edu From rumsey at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Wed Mar 15 10:24:58 2000 From: rumsey at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (Eric Rumsey) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Freely available e-journals from Hardin MD Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000315092458.0084a100@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Many medical libraries maintain excellent lists of electronic journals, with an emphasis on titles that are accessible to their own users. Announced below is a list of health/medical e-journals that are freely available to everyone. Does anyone know of such lists in other disciplines? --Eric ******************** As part of the Hardin Meta Directory, we've launched the "Electronic journal showcase" page - http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/ej.html This is a selected list of free-to-all full-text general medical journals. The 23 titles on the list are now available as a PubMed search for the last year, a total of approximately 5600 articles. Recently added titles include: Annals of Internal Medicine FDA Consumer Geratrics Western Journal of Medicine * * * * * * * * * Eric Rumsey, Hardin Library for the Health Sciences University of Iowa, Iowa City IA 52242 319-335-9875 (voice), 319-335-9897 (fax) Hardin Meta Directory of Internet Health Sources - Kudos - http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/news.html From LPinkham at plcmc.lib.nc.us Wed Mar 15 10:30:49 2000 From: LPinkham at plcmc.lib.nc.us (Pinkham, Lida) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Mouse practice software? Message-ID: Have you tried moucercise? I got this from the Nettrain listserv many moons ago. If the person can count, they can play this game. =) http://www.ckls.org/~crippel/computerlab/tutorials/mouse/page1.html Lida Pinkham Library Resource Trainer Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County Check out our family of websites: http://www.plcmc.lib.nc.us/family/family.htm From sturr at Oswego.EDU Wed Mar 15 10:54:08 2000 From: sturr at Oswego.EDU (Natalie Sturr) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: E-journals database Message-ID: Hi - I know we're not the first to make available a database of e-journal titles found in library full-text services, but here is a relatively low-cost, low-effort solution - complete with "how to" information. Our project can be found at: http://www.oswego.edu/library/ejournals/ For those interested in the technical side of this project, please see: http://www.oswego.edu/library/ejournals/how_to/ The 'how_to' web site not only provides an overview of the project, but also makes available procedures and files for creating every part of the application. I have included copies of all my procedures for obtaining and editing the data. Also included are working FileMaker/html files and working FileMaker databases. The web-based e-journal database was created using FileMaker Pro 4.1 for Windows. Lists of e-journals are obtained from the various vendors. Each list is imported into Excel where it is edited and formatted; the edited data is then imported into FileMaker. The alphabetical list is created by exporting data from FileMaker and editing it in Excel. Printed lists for local use are best done via FileMaker. I hope this is helpful to others who wish to create similar applications. -- Natalie Natalie Sturr sturr@oswego.edu Systems Librarian http://www.oswego.edu/~sturr SUNY Oswego Voice: (315) 341-3565 Oswego, NY 13126 FAX: (315) 341-3194 From Gabriel_Lepkey at hc-sc.gc.ca Wed Mar 15 11:32:50 2000 From: Gabriel_Lepkey at hc-sc.gc.ca (Gabriel_Lepkey@hc-sc.gc.ca) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Web Accessible Databases Message-ID: <852568A3.005AB215.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> Does anyone know of a good bilingual (French and English) database or information retrieval system which has a Web interface? From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Wed Mar 15 11:37:40 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Wireless and Laptop Libraries query results Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B3D3@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> I have come to some conclusions as a result of my reading and correspondence. Many libraries are adapting their current services to laptop users and wireless users. Very few are coming up with any clearly new services designed for such users. I find this a little disappointing but not surprising. I have been trying for the last year to come up with new and bold services directed at the laptop user. It is clearly difficult to do this. About the only thing that is at all original is our "Talk to a Librarian" service. That is really moving phone reference calls to a chat based type of environment. Not particularly bold and daring. I am currently continuing my review of what little literature is out there. There were also several suggestions about starting a discussion group. My own suggestion here is that such discussion would be appropriate for PACS-L. Any thoughts? Here are some of the responses -- >From GraceAnne DeCandido: Take a look at what I did in the PLA Tech Note on Wireless at http://www.pla.org/wireless.html >From Dale Foster: For a quick start, take a look at the Wireless Libraries Homepage at http://www.auburn.edu/fostecd/docs/wireless.html. I got responses from a some of the ThinkPad University sites: Kathleen Parker, West Virginia Wesleyan College -- 1. "more accurate to say our library has developed services in response to ubiquitous access than in response to laptops alone." 2. "Once we could assume users would have the computers, the connectivity, and the skills required for electronic information, we began to make that a preferred collection format." 3."In the library itself, we see the consequences of changing pedagogy -- much more emphasis on collaborative learning and group projects. So we give over lots of space to group work areas. We use wireless network connections in this building, so it makes it easy for student groups to be flexible in size and location. It's not unusual to see (and hear) three or four students gathered around a table, all with computers open. I remind myself that sometimes learning is a noisy process, and we no longer make any effort to keep our first floor quiet." 4."circulate loaner laptops to part time students" 5. "in general I can send you words of optimism that the IT program here made life as a librarian more interesting." Owen Williams, University of Minnesota, Crookston "Perhaps the biggest change has been the concept of me going to them instead of them coming to me for instruction. Besides preparing them for remote access (which most of them do, I much prefer going into the classroom and it certainly is better for instruction. Almost all of our classrooms are wired at each seat so they can follow along with me as I demonstrate a search or database. I almost always ask them to do their own searches and I can look over their shoulder as they do it. The biggest challenge is keeping them off of ICQ during instruction times however. That is another issue though. :-)" ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ From calumet at Mindspring.com Wed Mar 15 11:27:01 2000 From: calumet at Mindspring.com (Tara Calishain) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web Accessible Databases In-Reply-To: <852568A3.005AB215.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000315112626.00accc30@pop.mindspring.com> At 08:33 AM 3/15/2000 -0800, Gabriel_Lepkey@hc-sc.gc.ca wrote: >Does anyone know of a good bilingual (French and English) database or >information retrieval system which has a Web interface? I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but have you tried the Canadiana site at http://www.canadiana.org/ ? Tara From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Wed Mar 15 12:14:47 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Freely available e-journals from Hardin MD In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000315092458.0084a100@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: We maintain a list for periodicals, some of these have electronic versions, other have been digitalized. It's available at www.libri.ucp.pt/sumarios . Please click "todos os t?tulos" for all titles. Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Eric Rumsey Sent: Quarta-feira, 15 de Mar?o de 2000 15:35 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Freely available e-journals from Hardin MD Many medical libraries maintain excellent lists of electronic journals, with an emphasis on titles that are accessible to their own users. Announced below is a list of health/medical e-journals that are freely available to everyone. Does anyone know of such lists in other disciplines? --Eric ******************** As part of the Hardin Meta Directory, we've launched the "Electronic journal showcase" page - http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/ej.html This is a selected list of free-to-all full-text general medical journals. The 23 titles on the list are now available as a PubMed search for the last year, a total of approximately 5600 articles. Recently added titles include: Annals of Internal Medicine FDA Consumer Geratrics Western Journal of Medicine * * * * * * * * * Eric Rumsey, Hardin Library for the Health Sciences University of Iowa, Iowa City IA 52242 319-335-9875 (voice), 319-335-9897 (fax) Hardin Meta Directory of Internet Health Sources - Kudos - http://www.lib.uiowa.edu/hardin/md/news.html From bernies at uillinois.edu Wed Mar 15 12:19:48 2000 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Free online university Message-ID: Those of you interested in online learning and distance learning will probably be interested in the following article from today's Washington Post. High-tech billionaire Michael Saylor is going to donate $100 million towards creating a tuition-free online university. The article notes: "Eventually, he wants his nonprofit university to "become a cyber Library of Congress." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9402-2000Mar14.html Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 338 Henry Administration Building 506 S. Wright Street Urbana, IL 61801 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 333-6355 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From jbarker at library.berkeley.edu Wed Mar 15 12:20:03 2000 From: jbarker at library.berkeley.edu (Joe Barker) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Search engine w/o keyboard Message-ID: Is there a current search engine that does not require a keyboard - just a mouse or other remote access application? Joe Barker jbarker@library.berkeley.edu From bboru at si.umich.edu Wed Mar 15 12:42:10 2000 From: bboru at si.umich.edu (Brian Sheppard) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web Accessible Databases In-Reply-To: <852568A3.005AB215.00@smta00.hc-sc.gc.ca> Message-ID: There's a nice flat-file perl database at www.gossamer-threads.com. They have a french version posted on their site at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/resources/Detailed/286.html On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 Gabriel_Lepkey@hc-sc.gc.ca wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a good bilingual (French and English) database or > information retrieval system which has a Web interface? > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Sheppard bboru@mail.si.umich.edu From jahb at lehigh.edu Wed Mar 15 13:39:59 2000 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Wireless and Laptop Libraries query results References: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B3D3@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> Message-ID: <38CFD8FE.B9AB60E4@lehigh.edu> > I find this a little disappointing but not surprising. I have been trying > for the last year to come up with new and bold services directed at the > laptop user. It is clearly difficult to do this. About the only thing that > is at all original is our "Talk to a Librarian" service. That is really > moving phone reference calls to a chat based type of environment. Not > particularly bold and daring. I am currently continuing my review of what > little literature is out there. There were also several suggestions about > starting a discussion group. My own suggestion here is that such discussion > would be appropriate for PACS-L. Actually, adding a chat-type interface for reference questions is, to me, a major step... but I think the problem with finding new services for laptop/wireless users is that going from workstations in the library to providing wireless/laptop access isn't much of a jump: all you are doing is cutting the cable that bound them in one place. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From u1013066 at warwick.net Wed Mar 15 14:24:53 2000 From: u1013066 at warwick.net (u1013066) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Search engine w/o keyboard References: Message-ID: <38CFE385.2D69C918@warwick.net> Joe Barker wrote: > Is there a current search engine that does not require a keyboard - just a > mouse or other remote access application? Yes, Proteus Virtual KeyBoard Access Edition offers this: http://www.thrall.org/proteus-virtualkb.html For the main Proteus search services see http://www.thrall.org/proteus.html and http://rtiess.tripod.com/proteus Robert From lwhyman at pacbell.net Wed Mar 15 14:43:39 2000 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: server side include question Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000315114339.00692c48@pacbell.net> Hi. We're using Netscape Server Suite on a UNIX box and want to switch to using server side includes for some of our second level pages. Do these pages have to be in the ssi_includes folder, as my SysAdmin insists, or can they be read from other directories and still work? Moving all of our files into one directory will collapse our hierarchy unless we resort to some kind of alias/symbolic name. Thanks. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Wed Mar 15 15:34:15 2000 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Wireless and Laptop Libraries query results References: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B3D3@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> Message-ID: <38CFF3C7.36DB264A@am.appstate.edu> In addition to usual web services, our wireless laptops offer Microsoft Office and Corel WordPerfect which is not found on our Reference PCs. Although, these suites are on the computers in our lab which are accessible only during certain hours of the day provided a class is not in session. The wireless laptops offer access to these programs any time that the library is open. The Cabletron Access Points that our wireless laptops communicate with are secure in that the client settings have to have the same Network Name as the Access Point's Network Name, so I am working with computer support throughout campus to agree on a campus wide network name that would allow Access Points to be set up with a name that would be shared by all laptop computers setup for faculty or staff. This means that if a department is on a wireless network and the professor brings his/her notebook to the library, they have full access to the network including any programs set up for them that they normally use. Thomas "Drew, Bill" wrote: > > I have come to some conclusions as a result of my reading and > correspondence. Many libraries are adapting their current services to > laptop users and wireless users. Very few are coming up with any clearly > new services designed for such users. > I find this a little disappointing but not surprising. I have been trying > for the last year to come up with new and bold services directed at the > laptop user. It is clearly difficult to do this. About the only thing that > is at all original is our "Talk to a Librarian" service. That is really > moving phone reference calls to a chat based type of environment. Not > particularly bold and daring. I am currently continuing my review of what > little literature is out there. There were also several suggestions about > starting a discussion group. My own suggestion here is that such discussion > would be appropriate for PACS-L. > > Any thoughts? > > Here are some of the responses -- > > >From GraceAnne DeCandido: > > Take a look at what I did in the PLA Tech Note on Wireless > at http://www.pla.org/wireless.html > > >From Dale Foster: > > For a quick start, take a look at the Wireless Libraries > Homepage at http://www.auburn.edu/fostecd/docs/wireless.html. > > I got responses from a some of the ThinkPad University sites: > > Kathleen Parker, West Virginia Wesleyan College -- > > 1. "more accurate to say our library has developed services in > response to ubiquitous access than in response to laptops alone." > > 2. "Once we could assume users would have the computers, the connectivity, > and the skills required for electronic information, we began to make that a > preferred collection format." > > 3."In the library itself, we see the consequences of changing pedagogy -- > much > more emphasis on collaborative learning and group projects. So we give over > lots of space to group work areas. We use wireless network connections in > this building, so it makes it easy for student groups to be flexible in size > and location. It's not unusual to see (and hear) three or four students > gathered around a table, all with computers open. I remind myself that > sometimes learning is a noisy process, and we no longer make any effort to > keep our first floor quiet." > > 4."circulate loaner laptops to part time students" > 5. "in general I can send you words of optimism that > the IT program here made life as a librarian more interesting." > > Owen Williams, University of Minnesota, Crookston > > "Perhaps the biggest change has > been the concept of me going to them instead of them coming to me for > instruction. Besides preparing them for remote access (which most of them > do, I much prefer going into the classroom and it certainly is better for > instruction. Almost all of our classrooms are wired at each seat so they > can follow along with me as I demonstrate a search or database. I almost > always ask them to do their own searches and I can look over their shoulder > as they do it. The biggest challenge is keeping them off of ICQ during > instruction times however. That is another issue though. :-)" > > ----- > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > drewwe@morrisville.edu > Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe > Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant II University Library bennettt@am.appstate.edu http://www.library.appstate.edu/webmaster/ Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 3001 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From John.Little at Duke.edu Wed Mar 15 15:54:57 2000 From: John.Little at Duke.edu (John Little) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] server side include question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000315114339.00692c48@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <000401bf8ec0$b9028b80$4e070398@lib.duke.edu> Sure you can do this. SSI commands can be used throughout a server's document directory. Even Netscape server can be configured this way. Chuck Musciano has two excellent brief articles on the general process and technology. / John.Little@Duke.edu Web Development Librarian > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Linda Woods Hyman > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 3:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] server side include question > > > Hi. We're using Netscape Server Suite on a UNIX box and want to > switch to using server side includes for some of our second level > pages. Do these pages have to be in the ssi_includes folder, as > my SysAdmin insists, or can they be read from other directories > and still work? > > Moving all of our files into one directory will collapse our > hierarchy unless we resort to some kind of alias/symbolic name. > > Thanks. > > > > **************************** > Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. > Pacific Bell Education First > (619) 237-2020 > http://www.kn.pacbell.com > lwhyman@pacbell.net > From mshepard at saclaw.lib.ca.us Wed Mar 15 17:01:06 2000 From: mshepard at saclaw.lib.ca.us (Maureen Shepard) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] eBook and Stephen King's new novel Message-ID: Glassbooks is planning a "Library Server" for ebooks. Their server will "lend" books to your patrons. Check out http://www.glassbook.com/products/libraryserver.htm. Maureen Shepard Systems Librarian Sacramento County Law Library MShepard@saclaw.lib.ca.us 916.874.5625 >>> "S. Michael Kim" 03/10 6:36 PM >>> I was told that Stephen King's new novel is scheduled to be released exclusively on eBook format. http://cnn.com/2000/books/news/03/08/king.ebook/index.html I am very curious about the consequences. What if patrons wanted the item? There might be no alternative format of the 'work' other than eBook format....at least for a while. I am wondering if there is any library which manages eBook-based collection serving to patrons. If that's the case, I would like to know how the library handle the collection. I think there should be acquisition, cataloging, and circulation aspects involved. Also, there will be concerns regarding choice of medium, such as PC format, proprietary eBook device format,etc. It would be nice to have variety of opinions from different areas. Michael ----------------------------- S. Michael Kim Serials Cataloger Edmon Low Library Oklahoma State University mildbull@iname.com ------------------------------- "I'm curious to see what sort of response there is and whether or not this is the future." -- Stephen King From kgs at bluehighways.com Wed Mar 15 23:11:16 2000 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:41:59 2005 Subject: Input Needed on King Experience Message-ID: <003301bf8efd$b2945980$1c20a118@nycap.rr.com> For an upcoming column in American Libraries, I'll be talking about the experiences libraries had (are having?) with respect to offering the new Stephen King novella, "Riding the Bullet." Have you tried to offer access to this book to your reading public? Why or why not? Have you tried to offer access to your staff? Are you purchasing devices for reading e-books (PDAs, e-readers, extra computers, etc.)? Is this an additional cost or did you build in a line item for these devices prior to this budget year? Did you come up with a way to "circulate" the book, offer it remotely on the Web, distribute it on e-readers, let patrons check out readers, etc. etc.? If you are providing access in the library, via library computers or other devices, do computer time limits impact the reading experience? Why or why not? If you aren't offering this book, what are you telling your Stephen King fans? Have you talked to vendors about e-books yet? Have you read an e-book? Do you see e-books as the trend of the future? Where will e-books take us? Do you like coleslaw on your e-book? [this last question targeted at PUBLIB subscribers] Please email me personally at kgs@bluehighways.com and include your name, organization, city, state/country. Comments are due to me by Friday, March 24, 9 P.M. EST. Karen G. 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As a member of the Library & Information Services Department, the successful candidate will work with a team of information professionals providing services to the aboratory's 2200+ employees, including its 700+ scientists and engineers. Primary responsibilities will include: - Electronic document management projects: design and support of processes to describe and capture both internal and external full-text documents, including providing instructions and training to other Library staff who will implement them - Design, development, and continual enhancement of Library databases and interactive web-based forms to input to and query those databases. 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MIT is an Equal Opportunity Employer, M/F/D/V; U.S. Citizenship Required To apply, please forward a cover letter and scannable resume to Linda Hampson: hampson@ll.mit.edu (ASCII Text File) (781) 981-7086(fax) Human Resources MIT Lincoln Laboratory 244 Wood Street Lexington, MA 02420-9108 -- ________________________________________________ Marian Bremer Manager, Library & Information Services MIT Lincoln Laboratory 244 Wood Street Lexington, MA 02420-9176 USA email: mbremer@ll.mit.edu Voice: (781) 981-7171 Fax: (781) 981-0345 ________________________________________________ From bob at esrl.lib.md.us Wed Mar 1 11:45:33 2000 From: bob at esrl.lib.md.us (Bob Long) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: 5k award Message-ID: I just read about this at Zeldman's site. The 5k award is interesting because all entries must be 5 kilobytes or less. The prize is fifty dollars, but as they say at the site, "Do it for the honor". The site itself claims to weigh in at 3.51k and validates under 4.0 traditional. One tiny little image. Jakob Nielsen would be proud. Just thought you may be interested. Here's the page: http://www.sylloge.com/5k/index.html Bob Long, Eastern Shore Regional Library, Inc. Automation Technical Assistant 410 479 0776 (v) 410 548 5807 (f) bob@esrl.lib.md.us From dhamilto at mach2.wlu.ca Wed Mar 1 15:09:43 2000 From: dhamilto at mach2.wlu.ca (Don Hamilton) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: Wireless vs. wired LAN for libraries Message-ID: I sent this a couple of days ago, and got no response at all. That would be OK, but I can't even find my post in the archive, so I'm guessing my email hiccupped.( either that or the web Gods were angry that I reported a y2k bug with Swish-e and the web4lib archives). Sorry if you've seen it before. Back in December, the following question was asked. There were several responses, all of which make for interesting reading. I have a slightly broader question... We are about to undergo a long overdue building renovation. Are there any good discussion papers on the pros and cons of wired vs. wireless for libraries? In particular, what are the current cost comparisons? I like the idea of entirely wireless based on flexibility during inevitable shuffling of workstations, and 'grow ability', but worry about the ability of radio waves to traverse thick stacks of books (and stacks of thick students ;)). What say you, oh wise and wondrous list? Don Hamilton (mailto:dhamilto@mach2.wlu.ca) Information Technology & Cybrarian by Osmosis Wilfrid Laurier University Library Waterloo, Ontario, Canada 519-884-0710x3336 fax:519-884-8023 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Edelblute Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] wireless within a building We have a branch that recently spent a fortune digging up their concrete floors to put in new cable. They still have cabling needs that needs to be installed. Thus, there is some preliminary discussion of using some kind of wireless technology within the building. Are there any libraries out there using wireless technologies to address their cabling needs within a building. Radio? Infrared? E.T.'s telephone? -- Thomas Edelblute Anaheim Public Library From scleyle at morgan.ucs.mun.ca Wed Mar 1 15:36:01 2000 From: scleyle at morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Susan Cleyle) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: AccessY2K Conference Message-ID: AccessY2K Staying Afloat in the New Millennium St. John's Newfoundland September 21-23, 2000 Memorial University of Newfoundland is hosting the first Access Conference of the new Millennium, AccessY2K, September 21-23, 2000 in historic St. John's Newfoundland. The Access series of conferences, which started in Winnipeg in 1993, has become the premier advanced technology conference for librarians in Canada. Renowned speakers from all over North America and Europe have created consistently high quality programs. The friendly, intimate atmosphere of the conference (limited to a maximum of 150 participants) facilitates networking and information sharing among colleagues facing the same information technology challenges. You are invited to visit the AccessY2K webpage to view our program and speakers. The URL for AccessY2K is http://nofish.library.mun.ca/accessy2k Hope to see you there! Su *************************************************************************** * * * Susan E. Cleyle, B.A., M.L.I.S. Voice: (709) 737-7470 * * Systems Librarian OR (709) 737-2124 * QEII Library, Memorial University of Newfoundland * * ST.JOHN'S, Newfoundland, CANADA * * A1B 3Y1 email: scleyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca * * Fax (709) 737-2153 * * * * Normal disclaimers apply * *************************************************************************** I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov From chu at gems.vcu.edu Wed Mar 1 17:00:03 2000 From: chu at gems.vcu.edu (chu@gems.vcu.edu) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: Position Open - Systems Librarian In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000301132539.00a12630@email.hsc.vcu.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000301170003.00976550@email.hsc.vcu.edu> Vacancy Announcement System Librarian for Integrated Library Systems The Virginia Commonwealth University (VCU) Libraries invites an energetic and creative individual to join its Automation Services Department faculty. Helps develop, implement, and maintain integrated library systems in the Libraries, with particular emphasis on planning for the next generation system. Supports NOTIS technical operations, integrating client/server and Web interfaces. QUALIFICATIONS: ALA accredited MLS or accredited master degree in computer-related discipline required. Must have the ability to meet requirements for faculty advancement, including professional service and publication. Experience working in a culturally diverse environment highly preferred. Complete posting is at http://www.library.vcu.edu/admin/syslib00.html. VCU is a Carnegie Research University I with 1.5 million volumes and an annual budget of $10 million. Further information may be found at http://www.library.vcu.edu. SALARY: $40,000 minimum. APPLICATION: Letter of application, resume, and the names and phone numbers for three current references to: Teresa Doherty, VCU Libraries, Virginia Commonwealth University, P.O. Box 842033, Richmond, Virginia 23284-2033. E-mail for information only to Chengren Hu (chu@vcu.edu). Review of applications will begin on April 4, 2000. Virginia Commonwealth University is an equal opportunity/affirmative action institution providing access to education and employment without regard to age, race, color, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, veteran's status, political affiliation or disability. From swilson at titan.iwu.edu Wed Mar 1 18:20:53 2000 From: swilson at titan.iwu.edu (Sue Wilson) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: PDF Message-ID: <002e01bf83d4$c9c68800$670a910a@libtech.iwu.edu> I am trying to find out how to create a pdf file that has a page in it that you can type text into. Example: An online application that you do not want submitted electronically, but that the user can type in the information in and then print it out and send it. Thanks, Sue Wilson Info Systems Coordinator Sheean Library Illinois Wesleyan University swilson@titan.iwu.edu From dan at 84.com Wed Mar 1 19:30:23 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Wireless vs. wired LAN for libraries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4729.000301@84.com> DH> We are about to undergo a long overdue building renovation. Are there any DH> good discussion papers on the pros and cons of wired vs. wireless for DH> libraries? In particular, what are the current cost comparisons? I like the DH> idea of entirely wireless based on flexibility during inevitable shuffling DH> of workstations, and 'grow ability', but worry about the ability of radio DH> waves to traverse thick stacks of books (and stacks of thick students ;)). Depending on the environment, you may want to use non-radio wireless. My main concerns with wireless would be that I still haven't eliminated the problems of shifting workstations, as they're still tied into power (at least for the foreseeable future). As long as you run Cat5 where you run power, you should be OK. Our student union is putting in some wireless this semester, but their situation is one with plenty of power and no net cabling, and no easy way to put it in a stupidly built building. I've not really answered your question, but hope this thought is useful. dan -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From transit at primenet.com Wed Mar 1 20:28:01 2000 From: transit at primenet.com (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: Computer labs...controlling programs that can be run In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We're thinking of setting up a computer lab in the library. Web browsers, Office 2000 programs, and various pieces of educational software are ok, but people bringing in video games and running them would not be. What sort of software would be good in preventing "outside" software from running (we plan to leave all the disk drives accessable, locking them, as we do now, is not an option). Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles P. Hobbs __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ transit@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Wed Mar 1 20:30:22 2000 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Wireless vs. wired LAN for libraries References: Message-ID: <38BDC42E.6234FFA0@am.appstate.edu> We are using cabletron's "RoamAbout 802.11b 11 Mbps Access Point and Wireless Laptop/Desktop Solutions" Actually, we just got in the 11 Mbps units, we've been using the earlier 2 Mbps units for just over a week for patron use. I'm in a three story brick building with terrazzo floors and practically all metal bookshelves. We have just begun a program to let patrons check out IBM 390e ThinkPads for a two hour loan, renewable. I've had excellent communication, that is the least of the problems. And, the other problems aren't networked based really(booting without a network card bypasses NT authentication and profiles, nature of a notebook). In testing, I was able to communicate from the first floor to the third floor and about 30 feet away from the position directly above the access point. The biggest blockage of signal is through concrete block walls. They make an adapter to use on a desktop computer to allow use of the PCMCIA cards. This system was installed not as a need to expand in general but more specifically to give patrons this mobile feature, but it can be used for expansion if need be. You can set the access point to different levels of density, that is if you have several access points you would want to set each to low density. The wireless cards pickup on the strongest signal so when they get closer to another access point the communication is switched from the previous access point to the closer one. You can find the data sheet and more info at: http://www.cabletron.com/wireless/ I understand that Lucid is also highly rated but I haven't had any experience with the Lucid card personally except it did appear that the Lucid card will not talk with the cabletron system even though it looks like the software came from the same origin. There is a possibility that what kept the Lucid card from talking with the cabletron system is the System Name. You can set it so that the computer settings require the same System Name to talk to the access point. I expect that http://www.lucid.com will get you to lucid's sight for their info. Thomas Don Hamilton wrote: > > I sent this a couple of days ago, and got no response at all. That would be > OK, but I can't even find my post in the archive, so I'm guessing my email > hiccupped.( either that or the web Gods were angry that I reported a y2k bug > with Swish-e and the web4lib archives). Sorry if you've seen it before. > > Back in December, the following question was asked. There were several > responses, all of which make for interesting reading. I have a slightly > broader question... > > We are about to undergo a long overdue building renovation. Are there any > good discussion papers on the pros and cons of wired vs. wireless for > libraries? In particular, what are the current cost comparisons? I like the > idea of entirely wireless based on flexibility during inevitable shuffling > of workstations, and 'grow ability', but worry about the ability of radio > waves to traverse thick stacks of books (and stacks of thick students ;)). > > What say you, oh wise and wondrous list? > > Don Hamilton (mailto:dhamilto@mach2.wlu.ca) > Information Technology & Cybrarian by Osmosis > Wilfrid Laurier University Library > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada > 519-884-0710x3336 > fax:519-884-8023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Edelblute > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 12:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] wireless within a building > > We have a branch that recently spent a fortune digging up their concrete > floors to put in new cable. They still have cabling needs that needs to > be installed. Thus, there is some preliminary discussion of using some > kind of wireless technology within the building. > > Are there any libraries out there using wireless technologies to address > their cabling needs within a building. Radio? Infrared? E.T.'s > telephone? > > -- > Thomas Edelblute > Anaheim Public Library -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant II University Library bennettt@am.appstate.edu http://www.library.appstate.edu/webmaster/ Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 3001 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Wed Mar 1 20:51:01 2000 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: Computer labs...controlling programs that can be run Message-ID: <01JMJ5SEE61U0006GK@sals.edu> >We're thinking of setting up a computer lab in the library. Web browsers, >Office 2000 programs, and various pieces of educational software are ok, >but people bringing in video games and running them would not be. What >sort of software would be good in preventing "outside" software from >running (we plan to leave all the disk drives accessable, locking them, as >we do now, is not an option). I considered using the feature of Windows NT which does this, but it looked a bit kinky to figure out - there are a lot of programs running in the background. We have found that our normal security which prevents users from messing with the computer's setup also prevents them from installing anything. While there are some programs which do not require installation to run (we even had someone run a DOS resume program from a floppy), this prevents most of it. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Thu Mar 2 01:28:08 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] PDF References: <002e01bf83d4$c9c68800$670a910a@libtech.iwu.edu> Message-ID: <38BE09F8.3E298AF2@qglibrary.org.il> A page where you can type text into is called a "form". ;-) In the main page of acrobat they state that the product can "Create PDF Web forms". http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/main.html Good luck -- Hanan Cohen Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il Qiriat Gat Library - http://www.qglibrary.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Thu Mar 2 01:39:49 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Wireless vs. wired LAN for libraries References: Message-ID: <38BE0CB5.4ADD6383@qglibrary.org.il> I am too thinking about wireless commpunications in our (soon to be finished, ha ha ha) renovated main floor. I think that the "cost" issue should be considered carefully. Since computers started showing up, we were promissed that they will make things cheaper. After two decades we can now safely say that they didn't. They give us more power for the same price. I think that the "cost" point of view is not the most important one. -- Hanan Cohen Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il Qiriat Gat Library - http://www.qglibrary.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From yarmando at ghpl.org Sat Mar 4 09:15:07 2000 From: yarmando at ghpl.org (Don Yarman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? In-Reply-To: <38C0939C.D67DA00F@library.utah.edu> Message-ID: Donald Barclay wrote: > > I was looking at the Zope homepage (yyy.zope.org), and it got me to > wondering: With the growing emphasis on dynamic websites--and the growing > number of open-source tools that allow you to create dynamic websites--is > the library world approaching the point where libraries are going to start > saying goodbye to online catalog vendors (SIRSI, Innopac, VTLS, et al.) and > start developing web-based, home-grown catalogs? Well, I won't be, for all those clearly articulated reasons Debra Lords put forth. But I think Donald Barclay is absolutely right with his vision of a more integrated system returning results across databases. I've been hoping the automation vendors will begin creating these wonderful tools for us. At last week's Dynix users conference, epixtech (perhaps as a result of their recent divorce from Ameritech) began talking about some amazing new things they're working on. So, OK, they've let me down before -- don't even get me started on Kid's Catalog or Java WebPac. But their new iPac plans look extra cool. If they manage to deliver most of what they're promising, the other vendors will probably begin competing with comparable products. I'm really anxious to see what's coming from OCLC this summer with WebExpress, their cross-database search portal, and CORC, the "let's catalog the Internet" project. Heartened to finally see our automation vendor paying attention to what Amazon, Yahoo, and NetLibrary are doing, I remain prepared for disappointment but your ever hopeful servant, Don Yarman Grandview Hts Public Library yarmando@ghpl.org From transit at primenet.com Sat Mar 4 09:32:53 2000 From: transit at primenet.com (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: Java (was: Re: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Don Yarman wrote: [...] integrated systems > > So, OK, they've let me down before -- don't even get me started > on Kid's Catalog or Java WebPac. I don't know about Java WebPac, but that reminds me. . .Ovid just dropped their Java version of their database system. . .for one reason, it did not work consistently among all the computers, browsers, etc. out there . . . From suekamm at mindspring.com Sat Mar 4 10:03:30 2000 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <38C0939C.D67DA00F@library.utah.edu> Message-ID: <38C125C2.CD920D19@mindspring.com> Well said, Debbie! My library (Inglewood, CA PL) uses a home-grown circ/OPAC. Sometime in the early nineties we persuaded our city's MIS department to integrate our catalog records, which were on standalone CD-ROM workstations, into the circulation system. We have the capability to search by keyword in author, title, subject, keyword, and summary (MARC tag 520) fields. It's clunky, and since our MIS department works for the whole city, when we need changes it takes a while for them to be made. One search function I'd like to have is by call number. Too often people write down the call number (but not author or title) and then come to the desk when they can't find the book. We're beginning to think about using an outside vendor for circualtion and OPAC functions. At least the vendors speak fluent library! -- Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor, Sue Kamm email: suekamm@mindspring.com "Dogs have masters. Cats have staff." --Sneaky Pie Brown, author of WISH YOU WERE HERE From schlumpf at nslsilus.org Sat Mar 4 11:03:16 2000 From: schlumpf at nslsilus.org (Peter Schlumpf) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <38C0939C.D67DA00F@library.utah.edu> Message-ID: <38C133C4.1B6D9DF2@nslsilus.org> Debra is right in saying that creating an online catalog can be a daunting undertaking requiring programming skills and time that are beyond the reach of any single library. However, I do not agree that we are necessarily stuck with the current model of for-profit independent systems vendors for a long time to come. A problem of this scale may be well suited to an open source approach where the development work of an online catalog is distributed among many individual librarians and programmers with the necessary skills and motivation who work at a variety of institutions. The results of such an effort I think is intriguing and quite frankly could be very different and better than what we have today. And it would be freely available, truly belonging to the entire library community and not dependent on any single vendor or developer. It certainly is possible. Consider the successful results of other comparably complex open source software: Linux. The Apache web server. The open source development approach is already being used in some library software. Take a look at: http://info.med.yale.edu/library/oss4lib Granted, some of these are small scale projects or at a nascent stage, but they are already happening. Peter -- Peter Schlumpf Information Systems Specialist North Suburban Library System schlumpf@nslsilus.org > > > Adding to what Mack says: > > The database that creates the Online Catalog requires masterful > programming. Consider that, under MARC, many non-fiction books > have 1 author, 1 title, 1 alternate title, 1 series, and 3 > subject headings. If you have a library with 100,000 non-fiction > volumes, you have 700,000 catalog access points in the portion of > the database to which users have access, but this is not the full > database. And what if you want keyword search on the full title > field, author field and contents fields? To have the search > paradigm work fast enough that the patron is not twiddling their > thumbs is -- well -- not a trivial matter. This picture also > ignores the fiction, serials, and non-book formats. > > Another thing that has to be considered is if you want current > Circulation information available online. Oooooooooohh! And to > let people know something is on order, but not yet received -- > received, but not yet processed. Eeeeeeeeeeee! > > This is a "where" that *I* would not want to go. Libraries > couldn't each afford the team (yes, team) of programmers needed > to get such a thing ready and efficient. And lets clarify a > term, they generally are not "online catalog vendors", they are > integrated system vendors. The complexities listed above are why > they came to be in the first place, growing out of individual > library system attempts to automate various processes. Cost drove > them to a wider customer base than just "in-house". We won't soon > move away from this model. > > -- > > Debbie > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > Debra Lords Experience is what you > dlords@library.utah.edu have just right after > ACLIS Labs you need it. > 585-9810 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000304/d33e52dd/attachment.htm From plum at ulink.net Sat Mar 4 11:24:25 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <38C133C4.1B6D9DF2@nslsilus.org> Message-ID: <003301bf85f6$1b9d35c0$8414a0d1@ycxfssto> It would just be nice to have the ability to tweak the commercial programs a little. The old DOS Cat-Me Plus was way better than Follett's Windows where you can't cut & paste more than one subfield of data, and if you want lots of 650s you have insert each one. Not to mention the overdue list format nightmares. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000304/bfd9ad86/attachment.htm From ddraz at swbell.net Sat Mar 4 12:42:42 2000 From: ddraz at swbell.net (Dave Draz) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: mouse tutorial Message-ID: <007e01bf8601$0af6d0e0$778bbed0@ddraz.swbell.net> Check out this mouse tutorial http://www.ckls.org/~crippel/computerlab/tutorials/mouse/page1.html Obnoxious mouse but good practice. Linda Draz North RIchland Hills Public Library From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Sat Mar 4 17:18:07 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: AOL mail access in the library Message-ID: <38C18B9F.CF4DF42F@qglibrary.org.il> O mighty list, can you help me? Sometimes we have visitors from the US who want to read their mail from AOL. What do I need to do in order to help them? Do I need to have a special account? Install AOL mail reader? Does AOL have webmail access? Thanks p.s. If any readers of this message is from Chicago and is Jewish, you might want to know that our library is partly funded by the Chicago chapter of Partnership 2000. You are most welcome to visit us. -- Hanan Cohen Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il Qiriat Gat Library - http://www.qglibrary.org.il In association with : Bashan Systems ***Love and Peace*** From DTROFATTER at aol.com Sat Mar 4 19:22:13 2000 From: DTROFATTER at aol.com (DTROFATTER@aol.com) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: AOL mail access in the library Message-ID: <7e.1dbf8f8.25f302b5@aol.com> You no longer need a plug-in to access AOL mail. Just go to their home page at www.aol.com and the patron can log in using their user name and password. Debby Trofatter Reference Librarian James Blackstone Memorial Library Branford, CT 06405 From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Sat Mar 4 22:44:04 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B371@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> As a systems librarian for almost 10 years, I must speak my 2 cents worth. The library system is NOT just a OPAC anymore. It includes circulation, serials control, course reserve, authority control, maybe media booking, and probably acquisitions. One anyone like to design such a system from the ground up? Would you care to design one that also would allow 64 college campuses to be searched at the same time and to eventually share state wide circulation as well as ILL? That is what has been done by ExLibris. The State University of New York is almost finished with contract negotiations with them. CUNY (City University of NY) will also be using the same system. No home grown system would accomplish that. Just talk to anyone from Syracuse University. They used to have a home grown system. They don't anymore. Anyone that wants to start from the ground up should take a course in systems analysis and database design. That would really be an eye opener. The other ideas expressed about integrating the OPAC with access to the web and other databases will come given a little time. ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary From schlumpf at nslsilus.org Sun Mar 5 01:12:49 2000 From: schlumpf at nslsilus.org (Peter Schlumpf) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B371@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> Message-ID: <38C1FAE1.FD8DCD00@nslsilus.org> Throwing in my 2 cents in response to this... Designing any fully functional automated library system is not simple, that is true. Anyone attempting this should be aware of that. Those who thinks otherwise are fooling themselves. However, that by itself does not mean that such a task is necessarily impossible for anyone other than a commercial systems vendor. Also, issue of scale is brought up. A "home grown" system (or any system for that matter) doesn't need to serve the needs of 64 academic libraries in order to be useful to *somebody*. There are many, many other libraries out there whose needs could be met by a system of a much smaller scale and level of complexity than that. The scenario described probably hits the top end of any systems available, commercial or home-grown. There is nothing wrong with attempting to design a library system from the ground up. Though it isn't necessarily easy, that shouldn't discourage anyone away from doing it. I say this having taken my share of programming and database courses in my undergraduate years in computer science. -- Peter Schlumpf Information Systems Specialist North Suburban Library System schlumpf@nslsilus.org Drew, Bill wrote: > As a systems librarian for almost 10 years, I must speak my 2 cents worth. > The library system is NOT just a OPAC anymore. It includes circulation, > serials control, course reserve, authority control, maybe media booking, and > probably acquisitions. One anyone like to design such a system from the > ground up? Would you care to design one that also would allow 64 college > campuses to be searched at the same time and to eventually share state wide > circulation as well as ILL? That is what has been done by ExLibris. The > State University of New York is almost finished with contract negotiations > with them. CUNY (City University of NY) will also be using the same system. > No home grown system would accomplish that. Just talk to anyone from > Syracuse University. They used to have a home grown system. They don't > anymore. > > Anyone that wants to start from the ground up should take a course in > systems analysis and database design. That would really be an eye opener. > > The other ideas expressed about integrating the OPAC with access to the web > and other databases will come given a little time. > > ----- > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > drewwe@morrisville.edu > Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe > Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000305/550a66d8/attachment.htm From dan at 84.com Sun Mar 5 01:17:17 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Wireless vs. wired LAN for libraries In-Reply-To: <38BE0CB5.4ADD6383@qglibrary.org.il> References: <38BE0CB5.4ADD6383@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: <4970.000304@84.com> HC> I am too thinking about wireless commpunications in our (soon to be HC> finished, ha ha ha) renovated main floor. HC> I think that the "cost" issue should be considered carefully. HC> Since computers started showing up, we were promissed that they will HC> make things cheaper. After two decades we can now safely say that they HC> didn't. They give us more power for the same price. I think that the HC> "cost" point of view is not the most important one. Actually, the computers have gotten cheaper for more power. In the early nineties we used to talk about the $3000 computer, with that being the standard price for a business computer. These days the price is half of that. We buy, for less than $1400, a P3-550 with 128mb, net card, 17 inch monitor, 13MB disk, etc. Ten years ago you couldn't get any computer for that price, at least one you'd want to use in the library. Sure, we could spend 3000 bucks, but for that we'd be absolutely high end, not what you'd use for general staff use or public use. -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From dan at 84.com Sun Mar 5 01:33:57 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? In-Reply-To: <003301bf85f6$1b9d35c0$8414a0d1@ycxfssto> References: <003301bf85f6$1b9d35c0$8414a0d1@ycxfssto> Message-ID: <2981.000304@84.com> NSB> It would just be nice to have the ability to tweak the commercial NSB> programs a little. The old DOS Cat-Me Plus was way better than NSB> Follett's Windows where you can't cut & paste more than one NSB> subfield of data, and if you want lots of 650s you have insert NSB> each one. Not to mention the overdue list format nightmares. Some of them can be tweaked. Of course if you do that, you're on your own when they upgrade, etc. Your work may no longer work with the upgrade. As an example, we use Geac Advance, as do many other libraries. The only Geac Advance library I know of that has significantly modified the Advance system is Los Alamos National Labs Library. However, they have a former public library Advance administrator and two former Geac programmers, who were intimately involved in developing the system. They also have a host of technical support staff and programmers, and considerably more money than most of us do. Some complain that vendors discourage modifications only so they can make bunches of money doing custom mods for you....but the above is exactly why. I'm sure there are a few other libraries that are making significant mods to their ILS software, but they're braver or richer than the rest of us. dan -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From dan at 84.com Sun Mar 5 01:45:10 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:17 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? In-Reply-To: <38C1FAE1.FD8DCD00@nslsilus.org> References: <38C1FAE1.FD8DCD00@nslsilus.org> Message-ID: <18989.000304@84.com> PS> Throwing in my 2 cents in response to this... PS> Designing any fully functional automated library system is not simple, that is PS> true. Anyone attempting this should be aware of that. Those who thinks PS> otherwise are fooling themselves. However, that by itself does not mean that PS> such a task is necessarily impossible for anyone other than a commercial systems PS> vendor. Nothing is impossible if you have lots of skilled staff and lots of money and time. PS> Also, issue of scale is brought up. A "home grown" system (or any system for PS> that matter) doesn't need to serve the needs of 64 academic libraries in order PS> to be useful to *somebody*. There are many, many other libraries out there PS> whose needs could be met by a system of a much smaller scale and level of PS> complexity than that. The scenario described probably hits the top end of any PS> systems available, commercial or home-grown. Yes, the example that Bill described below is at the high end. Yes, OCLC started out as a relatively small, relatively local system that wasn't even online at first (we got catalog cards mailed to us, and ordered them by sending in punched cards with LCCNs in them). But even then it had a staff of a number of programmers, plus operators, management, etc. PS> There is nothing wrong with attempting to design a library system from the PS> ground up. Though it isn't necessarily easy, that shouldn't discourage anyone PS> away from doing it. Well, no, if you can convince your boss that this is a good thing to spend your time and his money on. I'd be surprised if many library administrators would go for it, though...at least if they wanted to keep their jobs. We all know that tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars is a lot of money, but that pales into what you'll pay for a development team to develop one system comparable to a commercial system of comparable size. PS> I say this having taken my share of programming and PS> database courses in my undergraduate years in computer science. I'm not arguing with your background, and won't bore you with mine, but....contact any library system vendor, or read the literature that reviews their operations annually....and note how many staff they have developing the systems in question. Even the vendors that develop "small systems" (Follett, Winnebago, etc.) have tens of programmers continually at work on development and upgrades. And the basic system any of them first came out with wasn't written by one person in his or her spare time on the job. cheers dan PS> -- PS> Peter Schlumpf PS> Information Systems Specialist PS> North Suburban Library System PS> schlumpf@nslsilus.org PS> Drew, Bill wrote: >> As a systems librarian for almost 10 years, I must speak my 2 cents worth. >> The library system is NOT just a OPAC anymore. It includes circulation, >> serials control, course reserve, authority control, maybe media booking, and >> probably acquisitions. One anyone like to design such a system from the >> ground up? Would you care to design one that also would allow 64 college >> campuses to be searched at the same time and to eventually share state wide >> circulation as well as ILL? That is what has been done by ExLibris. The >> State University of New York is almost finished with contract negotiations >> with them. CUNY (City University of NY) will also be using the same system. >> No home grown system would accomplish that. Just talk to anyone from >> Syracuse University. They used to have a home grown system. They don't >> anymore. >> >> Anyone that wants to start from the ground up should take a course in >> systems analysis and database design. That would really be an eye opener. >> >> The other ideas expressed about integrating the OPAC with access to the web >> and other databases will come given a little time. >> >> ----- >> Wilfred (Bill) Drew >> Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference >> SUNY Morrisville College Library >> drewwe@morrisville.edu >> Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe >> Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ >> Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ >> VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From gwhitney at utkux.utcc.utk.edu Mon Mar 6 09:39:27 2000 From: gwhitney at utkux.utcc.utk.edu (Gretchen Whitney) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: design examples request Message-ID: Hello, I am preparing a workshop session on web site design, and am looking for examples of sites (not necessarily library) that employ advanced technologies that look very "pretty," but the use of the technology or design technique actually is detrimental to the use of the site. That is, the user doesn't know what to do when arriving at the site, or, retrieval of information is inhibited. An example is: http://www.techno-cave.com/ Please respond privately to gwhitney@utk.edu. I'll summarize for the list after the workshop later this week. TIA. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Gretchen Whitney, PhD tel 423.974.7919 School of Information Sciences fax 423.974.4967 University of Tennessee, Knoxville TN 37996 USA gwhitney@utk.edu http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/ jESSE:http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/jesse.html SIGMETRICS:http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Mon Mar 6 10:14:03 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: IBM ThinkPad Universities or other laptop universities Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B379@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> I am very interested in starting a dialogue with librarians at other IBM ThinkPad Universities or laptop universities. Please contact me if you are interested and work at a college or university that provides or requires its students to have laptops or is just starting to implement such a program. Please feel free to forward this message. Please forgive the cross-posting of this message. ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary From MStephen at library.msstate.edu Mon Mar 6 10:50:36 2000 From: MStephen at library.msstate.edu (Stephen, Mathew) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: Subject keyword lists for Online Journals and Databases Message-ID: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F40@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> I'm in the process to redesigning our library website. One of the areas I would like to change is for some pages to be dynamically generated. I'm looking at the list of online Electronic Journals and Databases we subscribe to. I would like to put these journals titles into a database with keywords (along with other information such as URL, short description, setup information, etc...). Currently we have a list of journals and databases listed by subject, but the subject breakdown is not always very descriptive (for example "General"). One of the goals is have one location (database) containing the information, then using that information to generate web pages such as "E Journals alphabetical and by subject", "Internet Resources by subject" - page that list relevant websites based on subjects (keywords) such as web pages, Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, journals, databases, etc. The ultimate goal is to have fewer static web pages to maintain. What I am looking for is a web page with a list of all the Electronic Journals and Databases available, subject keywords, a short description, the provider, and any other helpful information. I have found some web pages such as http://www.arl.org/scomm/edir/archive.html (Directory of Electronic Journals, Newsletters and Academic Discussion Lists Archive) But these lists do not have a subject keywords. Thanks Mathew Stephen Mississippi State University From kharriss at d.umn.edu Mon Mar 6 10:54:32 2000 From: kharriss at d.umn.edu (Kyle Harriss) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Anonymous users on Lib computers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pat, Thanks for responding. On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Knuth, Pat KNUTHP wrote: > What kind of OS & networking are you using? We have > NT Workstation and Novell Netware, but our issues may > be different than if you're using NT server & Win9x This library's public PCs access a heterogenous network: NT server, Novell servers, Unix servers, and the internet. By fall semester, when user validation is scheduled to be in place, we'll be running Windows2000 "Professional" on our public PCs. We will validate logins against data from the campus' email/network user database. I already expect these user issues to come up: Faculty/staff/students who are reluctant to use their logins/passwords on shared PCs. (What if the PC stores the info in a buffer..) Delays setting up logins/passwords for walk-in patrons from the local community. But I don't know what other issues and/or headaches I should expect. Any comments based on your experience will be most helpful.. Thanks! ======================================================= Kyle Harriss voice: (218) 726-6546 UMD Library email: kharriss@d.umn.edu 10 University Drive Duluth, MN 55812 > The "public" computers in our library have never > been authenticated by logon/password. > > Our students, staff and faculty - and anyone who > walked in our door - could always sit down at a > PC and start using the networked resources > for research. > > This is about to change. All users will have to > log in before gaining access to the network. > We may be giving temporary network accounts to > local residents who request access. > > Has anyone else gone through this change? > Any issues we should be warned of, so we can start > working through those issues now? From lfd at libri.ucp.pt Mon Mar 6 11:14:24 2000 From: lfd at libri.ucp.pt (Luis Domingues) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Subject keyword lists for Online Journals and Databases In-Reply-To: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F40@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: We have summarized the publications we subscribe, some of which are electronically available, while some of the others are scanned (contents pages only). We have a database on the web, with a browsable tree for subjects and titles. It's available at www.libri.ucp.pt/sumarios . The instructions are in Portuguese, but I think it is quite intuitive. You can click on "Tema" for subject index or "Todos os t?tulos" to see the title list. Regards, Luis Filipe F. F. Domingues E-Mail: lfd@libri.ucp.pt Biblioteca Universit?ria Jo?o Paulo II Home Page: http://www.libri.ucp.pt/ Universidade Cat?lica Portuguesa Tel: +351 21 7214019 Palma de Cima Fax: +351 21 7214010 1600 Lisboa Portugal -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Stephen, Mathew Sent: Segunda-feira, 6 de Mar?o de 2000 15:49 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Subject keyword lists for Online Journals and Databases I'm in the process to redesigning our library website. One of the areas I would like to change is for some pages to be dynamically generated. I'm looking at the list of online Electronic Journals and Databases we subscribe to. I would like to put these journals titles into a database with keywords (along with other information such as URL, short description, setup information, etc...). Currently we have a list of journals and databases listed by subject, but the subject breakdown is not always very descriptive (for example "General"). One of the goals is have one location (database) containing the information, then using that information to generate web pages such as "E Journals alphabetical and by subject", "Internet Resources by subject" - page that list relevant websites based on subjects (keywords) such as web pages, Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, journals, databases, etc. The ultimate goal is to have fewer static web pages to maintain. What I am looking for is a web page with a list of all the Electronic Journals and Databases available, subject keywords, a short description, the provider, and any other helpful information. I have found some web pages such as http://www.arl.org/scomm/edir/archive.html (Directory of Electronic Journals, Newsletters and Academic Discussion Lists Archive) But these lists do not have a subject keywords. Thanks Mathew Stephen Mississippi State University From afranklin at willkie.com Mon Mar 6 11:16:53 2000 From: afranklin at willkie.com (Franklin, Alethia) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? Message-ID: <76DCE5566DE2D311BB5F0008C7E670E61ACE44@NYEXCH01> We need the vendors and they will stay as long as they keep up with the pace of information delivery. Debbie is most definitely correct in the fact that the complexities are the reason for these vendors in the first place. And why should we reinvent the wheel. There are some vendors that have already taken steps to move our catalogs, integrating all functions, into the one web interface. If anyone is interested they should visit the following site, http://www.opentext.com/techlib/. Open Text recently acquired the company Information Dimensions which has targeted the special libraries market for the past 12 years and their product has always been on the forefront of technology. They are using current technologies, such as ASP and ODBC to allow your catalog to talk to your legacy databases and present the results in the most common interface of today, the browser. This not only includes the catalog, but circulation, acquisitions, serials checkin, the whole works. Other vendors are starting out more slowly, with the catalog presented in a web browser, but the ability to access other databases through links. SydneyPlus another vendor for special libraries has this functionality, http://www.ils.ca . Our goal at Willkie, when we implement our intranet is to have a seamless interface for all of our databases, and with the assistance of vendors we won't have to do so much of the work on our own. Alethia Franklin Library Systems Administrator Willkie Farr & Gallagher From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Mon Mar 6 11:52:17 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: Dir. of Lib. Systems job opening at MSU (fwd) Message-ID: Forwarded on behalf of "Marsh, Beverly" , please do not reply to me. Thanks, Roy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:39:02 -0700 From: "Marsh, Beverly" Subject: Dir. of Lib. Systems job opening at MSU POSITION VACANCY ANNOUNCEMENT Montana State University - Bozeman http://www.lib.montana.edu TITLE: Director for Library Systems EMPLOYMENT TERMS: Full-time, non-tenure track AVAILABLE DATE: April 15, 2000 POSITION DESCRIPTION: Is a member of the library administrative team. Responsible for system administration, maintenance and support of the library's online public access catalog including support software and integration with campus computing. Works with faculty and staff for the selection, implementation, and maintenance of all microcomputer workstations in The Libraries. Is the library liaison to campus Information Technology Center. Oversees the administration, operation, and maintenance of library networks. Supervises 2 FTE staff. DESCRIPTION OF MSU & BOZEMAN: Montana State University?Bozeman, the state's land grant institution, is located in the beautiful Gallatin Valley in southwestern Montana 90 miles north of Yellowstone National Park. The university has an enrollment of over 11,700 and offers undergraduate degrees in 50 fields and graduate degrees in 39 fields with an emphasis in science and technology. The Libraries' collection numbers over 600,000 volumes, one million+ microforms and is staffed by 17.33 faculty FTE, 1.87 professional FTE, and 31.37 classified FTE. QUALIFICATIONS: Required: Bachelor's degree; experience with Unix (preferably Sun Solaris); Unix Scripting; Windows NT server; Windows 95; TCP/IP networks and how they work; and progressively responsible professional experience that includes systems planning, implementation, and management. Preferred: Experience managing an integrated library system; experience selecting, implementing, and maintaining a LAN and microcomputers; experience with SIRSI library management software. The successful candidate will demonstrate excellent written and oral communication skills and will have the ability to work in a team environment. DEADLINE: Screening will begin April 3, 2000 and continue until a suitable candidate is hired. SALARY: $50K TO APPLY: Send letter of application addressing the above qualifications, a r?sum? and names, addresses, and phone numbers of five current professional references to: Director for Library Systems Screening Committee, Office of the Dean, MSU-Bozeman Libraries, P.O. Box 173320, Bozeman, MT 59717?3320. ADA/EO/AA/Veterans Preference. In compliance with the Montana Veteran's Employment Preference Act, MSU provides preference in employment to veterans, disabled veterans and certain eligible relatives of veterans. MSU makes accommodation for any known disability that may interfere with an applicant's ability to compete in the hiring process or an employee's ability to perform the duties of the job. To claim veteran's preference or request accommodation, contact Affirmative Action, Montana Hall, MSU, Bozeman, MT 59717 [(406) 994?2042; TDD: (406) 994?4191]. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Beverly Marsh Library Administration P.O. Box 173320 Bozeman, MT 59717-3320 Phone: 406-994-6538 Fax: 406-994-2851 Homepage: http://www.homepage.montana.edu/~bmarsh/grycheek.htm From zalbenrl at alverno.edu Mon Mar 6 12:45:40 2000 From: zalbenrl at alverno.edu (Robin L Zalben) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: HTML assistance followup Message-ID: <38C3EEC4.759C69C9@alverno.edu> Well, I have the graphic on the page, but it shows up as a new graphic in each block of the table---regardless of what I do. (Sizing it doesn't work, and it doesn't matter if I put it in the TD before or in the Table tag itself. Take a look at http://depts.alverno.edu/library/library.html Thanks for the help on the fonts, I think the best suggestion is to put Trebuchet first, and follow it by other (more common) options. Robin Zalben Automation Librarian Alverno College Milwaukee, WI From lou at argus-inc.com Mon Mar 6 12:54:21 2000 From: lou at argus-inc.com (Louis Rosenfeld) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: Conference Announcement--"Defining Information Architecture" Message-ID: <004901bf8795$00998080$6801a8c0@lrb.argus-inc.com> (apologies for duplicate postings; please forward) NOTE: today is your last chance to benefit from the early registration discount. We hope to see you in Boston next month! "Defining Information Architecture" Boston, April 7-9, 2000 sponsored by the American Society for Information Science http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/ Information Architecture is an emerging and rapidly growing field, merging ideas from many traditional disciplines with the goal of designing better information systems. If you are an information architect or are interested in the field, "Defining Information Architecture" is your opportunity to: * Explore definitions for Information Architecture with a panel of leading thinkers and practitioners. * Understand the types of expertise that should and will have an impact Information Architecture. * Learn about the role that the Information Architect plays within different settings. * Meet your colleagues and build a broader community of information architects. The American Society for Information Science has assembled a compelling list of speakers (http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/speakers.html) representing many relevant perspectives: Anthropology * Data Modeling * Graphic Design * Meta-Data * Human Computer Interaction * Information Design * Information Retrieval * Interface Design * Markup Languages * Librarianship * Technical Communications * Usability Engineering Attendance is limited, so please register soon. Visit http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/ for details. From KNUTHP at LEAVENWORTH.ARMY.MIL Mon Mar 6 12:55:19 2000 From: KNUTHP at LEAVENWORTH.ARMY.MIL (Knuth, Pat KNUTHP) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Anonymous users on Lib computers Message-ID: Kyle, Our students have to login as themselves in the classrooms and computer lab. We still provide a generic login in the library but some students login as themselves in order to access resources on their network drives. At some point everyone who wants to use a networked PC will have to login with a valid user id. (we're exploring commercial ISP options for family members and retired military) We have NT Workstation on our public PCs and use Novell Netware for networking. Some of the issues we have run into: Students frequently don't realize all the changes they need to make at the NetWare login screen to change their file server, their context and their user ID for the NT domain. We have instruction sheets posted in the area, which helps the second time around. In NT Workstation, you have to be logged in as the user to capture the printer. The networking team put a line in the NetWare login script that looks for a capture file on the hard drive. I have a printer.txt file on each PC that captures the printer I want that PC to print to. But they only did that with the student login scripts. Faculty members will have to capture their own printers (I can't wait). Right now, although users log into the NT domain, the profiles are stored on the individual PCs. One of our biggest problems is running out of hard drive space. When that happens I have to login as administrator and delete users profiles. The college networking team is exploring some fixes, but they're severely overworked and understaffed, so I don't know when they'll find a fix. Hope this is useful Pat Knuth Electronic Resources Librarian Combined Arms Research Library US Army Command & General Staff College Ft. Leavenworth, KS 66027 (913) 758-3019 knuthp@leavenworth.army.mil -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Harriss [mailto:kharriss@d.umn.edu] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Anonymous users on Lib computers Pat, Thanks for responding. On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Knuth, Pat KNUTHP wrote: > What kind of OS & networking are you using? We have > NT Workstation and Novell Netware, but our issues may > be different than if you're using NT server & Win9x This library's public PCs access a heterogenous network: NT server, Novell servers, Unix servers, and the internet. By fall semester, when user validation is scheduled to be in place, we'll be running Windows2000 "Professional" on our public PCs. We will validate logins against data from the campus' email/network user database. I already expect these user issues to come up: Faculty/staff/students who are reluctant to use their logins/passwords on shared PCs. (What if the PC stores the info in a buffer..) Delays setting up logins/passwords for walk-in patrons from the local community. But I don't know what other issues and/or headaches I should expect. Any comments based on your experience will be most helpful.. Thanks! ======================================================= Kyle Harriss voice: (218) 726-6546 UMD Library email: kharriss@d.umn.edu 10 University Drive Duluth, MN 55812 > The "public" computers in our library have never > been authenticated by logon/password. > > Our students, staff and faculty - and anyone who > walked in our door - could always sit down at a > PC and start using the networked resources > for research. > > This is about to change. All users will have to > log in before gaining access to the network. > We may be giving temporary network accounts to > local residents who request access. > > Has anyone else gone through this change? > Any issues we should be warned of, so we can start > working through those issues now? From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Mar 6 13:24:08 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance followup References: <38C3EEC4.759C69C9@alverno.edu> Message-ID: <002901bf8799$5194de40$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin L Zalben" Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance followup > I have the graphic on the page, but it shows up as a new graphic in each > block of the table---regardless of what I do. (Sizing it doesn't work, > and it doesn't matter if I put it in the TD before or in the Table tag > itself. Take a look at http://depts.alverno.edu/library/library.html > That's one of the more serious drawbacks to using proprietary markup: without an authoritative definition of what
should do, you can't rely on different browsers interpreting it the same way--or at least, you can't lay blame when they differ. IE5 uses one copy of the image for the whole table; Netscape 4.7 and Mozilla m14 use individual, cropped copies for each table cell; Opera ignores the background attribute altogether. I have to say, only Opera's rendition keeps the maroon text and blue links really legible. If you're committed to having links float over a picture of your reference shelf, why not avoid the whole table problem and make it an image map? Then you could use any number of techniques to keep the text legible too. [Style sheet note: pseudo-elements are noted with a colon, not a period. So a:visited rather than a.visited.] Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Mon Mar 6 14:07:07 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [ANNOUNCE] MyLibrary@NCState source code (fwd) Message-ID: Forwarded by permission. Roy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:39:37 -0500 (EST) From: eric@hegel.lib.ncsu.edu Subject: [ANNOUNCE] MyLibrary@NCState source code The source code to MyLibrary@NCState, a user-driven, customizable interface to a library's collection information resources is available for download from a link at the following URL: http://hegel.lib.ncsu.edu/development/mylibrary/ The URL above points to detailed texts describing why MyLibrary@NCState was created, what it can do, and what it can not do. There you will find a "sandbox" allowing you to create one or more MyLibrary accounts as well as explore the administrative interface, the interface for content providers. Think of the sandbox as a playground allowing you to investigate how the system works. From the URL above you can download the software and install it on one of your local computers in order to see what makes it tick. Finally, the URL above points to a mailing list, mylib-dev, allow us to create a community of interested parties and providing the opportunity for you to articulate your ideas about MyLibrary@NCState with sets of your peers. Try MyLibrary@NCState and we look forward to hearing your input. -- Eric Lease Morgan NCSU Libraries http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/staff/morgan/ From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Mon Mar 6 14:39:40 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: HTML assistance followup References: <002901bf8799$5194de40$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <38C4097C.AE50C5AC@qglibrary.org.il> Thomas Dowling wrote: > you can't rely on different browsers interpreting it the same way You can allways look at http://www.htmlcompendium.org for compatibility charts for every HTML tag and value on all browsers and versions. -- Hanan Cohen ***Love and Peace*** From mconroy at ohionet.org Mon Mar 6 15:16:58 2000 From: mconroy at ohionet.org (Mary Conroy) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: (Ohio) April 6 -7 OCLC/OHIONET Tech Planning Seminar Message-ID: <45E65FF9FB4BD3118912005004A2B8F01BC42D@ohionetmail.ohionet.org> Please register for this special OCLC/OHIONET seminar by March 16, 2000! Library Directors: *** OCLC Institute: Technology Planning in a Time of Rapid Change **** OHIONET is pleased to announce that OHIONET and the OCLC Institute will sponsor a seminar, "Technology Planning in a Time of Rapid Change" on April 6-7, 2000 at the OCLC Dublin campus. In the seminar participants will * Review the latest trends in electronic information, distance learning, workstation and telecommunications technologies * Investigate case studies of how other libraries are dealing with resource planning and allocation * Participate in facilitated roundtable discussions and planning sessions * Explore alternative to providing access to electronic resources * Discover how to successfully acheive system-wide and remote access to electronic materials and lead your library into the new millennium The seminar is designed especially for Library Directors and/or designated staff. The $375 OCLC member tuition ($400 for non OCLC members) includes all course materials, dinner on Thursday evening, luncheon on Friday and refreshments with breaks. For additional information, including hotel information, and to register visit the OCLC Institute website at: http://www.oclc.org/institute/courses/techplan.htm or call 800-848-5878, ext. 5212. OHIONET contact: James Rubottom OHIONET, 1500 West Lane Ave, Columbus OH 43221 Fax 614/486-1527 voice 800/686-8975 (OH,PA) or 614/486-2966 ext 24 mailto:james@ohionet.org From KevilL at missouri.edu Mon Mar 6 15:27:44 2000 From: KevilL at missouri.edu (Kevil, L H.) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? Message-ID: <52246021B94FD311B4B900609451548D0AA6F040@umc-mail02.missouri.edu> I would like to add my tuppence ha'penny to this discussion. IMHO the problem does not lie exclusively with the ILS vendors, but at least as much with the requirements libraries have demanded of ILS vendors. To my knowledge the major ILS systems are automated card catalogues, not databases. This is deliberate on the part of libraries, as the cataloguing code appears to mandate a kind of interoperability or compatibility between automated systems and card systems. Libraries appear to be exclusively concerned with human users to the extent that machine users and processing are poorly supported, if at all. The resulting ILS cannot be considered databases, as they violate the usual rules defining relational and other modern databases. Among other things, they are full of redundant data, which is mandated by the MARC standard, have no or unhelpful keys, and are even designed so that human beings can go in and manipulate the indexes. (It may be that many of these ILS use contemporary database technology, but it is crippled because it can only mimic the working of an automated card catalogue.) Furthermore, the standards for ISBN and ISSN are deliberately designed to identify a particular manifestation of a work, rather than the work itself. Thus when the title of a periodical is deemed by library cataloguers to have changed, the publisher is supposed to get a new ISSN. The same journal can have multiple ISSN's. ISBN has similar problems. There is no standard article number for ILL free of these problems. Thus there is no standard ID for works, which makes sharing of bibliographic, holding, and other data very difficult. This applies to z39.50 users as much as to human users of card catalogues. Finding serials can still be very difficult for people and impossible for machines. Put another way, there is a definite limit to how far an ILS can go in sharing data and presenting it to the user and consequently no or little penalty for proprietary, non-open systems. Our legacy systems are in a secure position at the moment because we librarians have made the task of automation much more complex than it needs to be. If the library and information community does create reasonable ILS standards designed to work with relational or object-relational database technology _and_ decides to promote publically accessible databases of work ID's, the option of the home-grown system will become much more feasible. In these circumstances ILS vendors would surely consider offering plug-ins or easily customizable modules, so that individual libraries could satisfy special requirements. I invite discussion of these hastily written-up points, particularly by those of you who may disagree. L. Hunter Kevil, Collection Development Librarian, 176 Ellis Library, University of Missouri-Columbia, Columbia, MO 65201 Voice: 573-884-8760 Fax: 573-882-6034 E-mail: KevilL@missouri.edu -----Original Message----- From: Franklin, Alethia [mailto:afranklin@willkie.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:32 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? We need the vendors and they will stay as long as they keep up with the pace of information delivery. Debbie is most definitely correct in the fact that the complexities are the reason for these vendors in the first place. And why should we reinvent the wheel. There are some vendors that have already taken steps to move our catalogs, integrating all functions, into the one web interface. If anyone is interested they should visit the following site, http://www.opentext.com/techlib/. Open Text recently acquired the company Information Dimensions which has targeted the special libraries market for the past 12 years and their product has always been on the forefront of technology. They are using current technologies, such as ASP and ODBC to allow your catalog to talk to your legacy databases and present the results in the most common interface of today, the browser. This not only includes the catalog, but circulation, acquisitions, serials checkin, the whole works. Other vendors are starting out more slowly, with the catalog presented in a web browser, but the ability to access other databases through links. SydneyPlus another vendor for special libraries has this functionality, http://www.ils.ca . Our goal at Willkie, when we implement our intranet is to have a seamless interface for all of our databases, and with the assistance of vendors we won't have to do so much of the work on our own. Alethia Franklin Library Systems Administrator Willkie Farr & Gallagher From Shelley.Sloboder at FMR.COM Mon Mar 6 16:38:57 2000 From: Shelley.Sloboder at FMR.COM (Sloboder, Shelley) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: Getting Rid of FrontPage Markup Components Message-ID: Hi all, Does anyone know how to get rid of the Front Page Markup Components that seem to appear? I have tried deleting them and putting comment tags around them, but the pesky things keep reappearing. Any ideas? Thank you very much. Shelley Sloboder CTA (617) 392-2674 Shelley.Sloboder@fmr.com From mwhitchu at library.utah.edu Mon Mar 6 16:56:09 2000 From: mwhitchu at library.utah.edu (Michael Whitchurch) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: WhiteBoard and Chat Message-ID: Hi All, I just received a question from a facutly member who would like to find a specific kind of software. Is there a software that has both chat and white board that run simultaneously? He is looking for something that has both running in one screen or split screen. Any information you can give will be very appreciated. Thanks, Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael Whitchurch Technology Assisted Curriculum Center 2751 Marriott Library University of Utah Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0860 (801) 585-0535 mwhitchu@tacc.utah.edu From plum at ulink.net Mon Mar 6 17:27:24 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance followup References: <38C3EEC4.759C69C9@alverno.edu> Message-ID: <006c01bf87bb$25f65d00$ca14a0d1@ycxfssto> Okay, I should not be playing with this, but it's more fun than a Master's Thesis. Here goes: Inside your head tags try putting: You may have to adjust your image size. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin L Zalben To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance followup > Well, > > I have the graphic on the page, but it shows up as a new graphic in each > block of the table---regardless of what I do. (Sizing it doesn't work, > and it doesn't matter if I put it in the TD before or in the Table tag > itself. Take a look at http://depts.alverno.edu/library/library.html > > Thanks for the help on the fonts, I think the best suggestion is to put > Trebuchet first, and follow it by other (more common) options. > > Robin Zalben > Automation Librarian > Alverno College > Milwaukee, WI From plum at ulink.net Mon Mar 6 17:30:53 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance followup References: <38C3EEC4.759C69C9@alverno.edu> Message-ID: <007901bf87bb$a28013c0$ca14a0d1@ycxfssto> Um, obviously I meant for you to use "logo.gif" not "kleenex.gif" in yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin L Zalben To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 9:41 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML assistance followup > Well, > > I have the graphic on the page, but it shows up as a new graphic in each > block of the table---regardless of what I do. (Sizing it doesn't work, > and it doesn't matter if I put it in the TD before or in the Table tag > itself. Take a look at http://depts.alverno.edu/library/library.html > > Thanks for the help on the fonts, I think the best suggestion is to put > Trebuchet first, and follow it by other (more common) options. > > Robin Zalben > Automation Librarian > Alverno College > Milwaukee, WI From avirr at LanMinds.Com Mon Mar 6 18:23:48 2000 From: avirr at LanMinds.Com (Avi Rappoport) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] WhiteBoard and Chat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: works pretty well and they have a Java applet for cross-platform compatibility. Disclaimer: I wrote some of their early documentation (but no, I don't have any stock options). Avi At 1:52 PM -0800 3/6/2000, Michael Whitchurch wrote: >Hi All, > I just received a question from a facutly member who would >like to find a >specific kind of software. Is there a software that has both chat and white >board that run simultaneously? He is looking for something that has both >running in one screen or split screen. Any information you can give will be >very appreciated. -- ________________________________________________________________ Avi Rappoport, Search Tools Maven: Guide to Site Indexing and Local Search Engines: From mcohen at stmarys-ca.edu Mon Mar 6 19:13:02 2000 From: mcohen at stmarys-ca.edu (mcohen@stmarys-ca.edu) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] WhiteBoard and Chat References: Message-ID: <38C4498E.92CC14DB@stmarys-ca.edu> Web Course in a Box - a Web course hosting software - has a chat / whiteboard utility. We've been using the software for over a year and find it functional and stable. It does just what your faculty member is requesting: whiteboard above, chat below. See http://www.madduck.com I'm not associated with the company, other than that we've bought a license to the software. -Martin Michael Whitchurch wrote: > Hi All, > I just received a question from a facutly member who would like to find a > specific kind of software. Is there a software that has both chat and white > board that run simultaneously? He is looking for something that has both > running in one screen or split screen. Any information you can give will be > very appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Michael > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Michael Whitchurch > Technology Assisted Curriculum Center > 2751 Marriott Library > University of Utah > Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0860 > (801) 585-0535 > mwhitchu@tacc.utah.edu -- Martin J. Cohen mcohen@stmarys-ca.edu Media Services & Library Computing voice: (925) 631-4229 Saint Mary's College of California fax: (925) 376-6097 Moraga CA 94575 ars longa vita brevis From eperez at sparkie.osl.state.or.us Mon Mar 6 19:52:32 2000 From: eperez at sparkie.osl.state.or.us (Ernest Perez, Ph.D.) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: RE Listserves Message-ID: <200003061652320970.0180DC83@opac.osl.state.or.us> JaniceM@camden.lib.nj.us writes... Messages sorted by: [ date ][ thread ][ subject ][ author ] Is anyone familiar with software we can put on our webserver that will help us to create this database? We thought that listserve software might be our best bet but there may be other types of software that would do a better job. Any recommendations for listserve or other types of software that would transfer information from a web form to a database would be appreciated. ============================================ Janice, Check out for a handy and customizable form service. This can handle all kinds of input, can give you charts & graphs & reports of results of form input, can download to your PC in formats suitable for database import, etc. And it's a freebie. Here follows a quote from their site... "Have you ever wanted to collect, manage and share information with a group of people using the Internet? Flashbase Forms will automate the whole process for you. All you need is a web browser. Here are some examples of what you can do: Surveys RSVPs Mailing Lists Order Forms Registration Forms Subscription Forms Inventory Management Contests Reservations & Request Software Bug Tracking and much more . . . " Cheers, - ernest ______________________ Ernest Perez, Ph.D. Group Leader Oregon State Library 503-378-4243, ext 257 ernest.r.perez@state.or.us From schlumpf at nslsilus.org Mon Mar 6 22:00:47 2000 From: schlumpf at nslsilus.org (Peter Schlumpf) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Do We Still Need Online Catalog Vendors? References: <38C1FAE1.FD8DCD00@nslsilus.org> <18989.000304@84.com> Message-ID: <38C470DF.CC40F1A2@nslsilus.org> Dan Lester wrote: > PS> Designing any fully functional automated library system is not simple, that is > PS> true. Anyone attempting this should be aware of that. Those who thinks > PS> otherwise are fooling themselves. However, that by itself does not mean that > PS> such a task is necessarily impossible for anyone other than a commercial systems > PS> vendor. > > Nothing is impossible if you have lots of skilled staff and lots of > money and time. True. But I would add that creating sufficiently useful online catalog software, though difficult is hardly impossible for a group of sufficiently motivated people or even a lone developer. Money, though a very useful thing is secondary to motivation, skill and time to writing useful software. > Yes, the example that Bill described below is at the high end. Yes, OCLC > started out as a relatively small, relatively local system that wasn't > even online at first (we got catalog cards mailed to us, and ordered > them by sending in punched cards with LCCNs in them). But even then it > had a staff of a number of programmers, plus operators, management, > etc. True, in the case of OCLC. However many examples can be cited of eminently useful software written without the aid of armies of programmers, management, operators, tons of $$$$ or other such formal structures normally assocated with such endeavours. Consider the Linux operating system, which began with the work of a single person, Linus Torvalds, in his spare time. This has since grown to include the collaborative work of many people around thew world. The Apache web server was put together and continues to be developed by a group of programmers trying to overcome the shortcomings of the original Mosaic WWW server software. Perl, the programming language developed by Larry Wall. The Squid proxy/cacheing server, just to name a few. All of these, taken together, are spawning a whole new software development model. Any software company that ignores this phenomenon does so at their peril. > Well, no, if you can convince your boss that this is a good thing to > spend your time and his money on. I'd be surprised if many library > administrators would go for it, though...at least if they wanted to > keep their jobs. We all know that tens or hundreds of thousands of > dollars is a lot of money, but that pales into what you'll pay for a > development team to develop one system comparable to a commercial > system of comparable size. It may take some bootstrapping effort and persistence by individual developers on their own time to demonstrate that such a thing is possible and desirable. If the product of such a bootstrapping effort is good enough, institutions could be convinced to buy into such a thing and those who had the resources provide them to develop it further. Again, consider the advantages of the end product: a free and open library system developed by the library community independent of any one vendor.... library software reduced to a commodity. I think such a thing outweighs the cost of development and support. That cost can be distributed among many institutions, developers, and yes, library software vendors too. > reviews their operations annually....and note how many staff they have > developing the systems in question. Even the vendors that develop > "small systems" (Follett, Winnebago, etc.) have tens of programmers > continually at work on development and upgrades. And the basic system > any of them first came out with wasn't written by one person in his or > her spare time on the job. Well, this has already happened in the highly competitive world of operating systems. I don't see why the open source development model could not be extended to the automated library systems marketplace as well. If anything, considering the high regard that the library community gives to the values of openness of information and sharing, I think it would be a perfect fit. Peter -- Peter Schlumpf Information Systems Specialist North Suburban Library System schlumpf@nslsilus.org > cheers > > dan From simon at medicine.wustl.edu Mon Mar 6 23:10:46 2000 From: simon at medicine.wustl.edu (Simon Igielnik) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] WEB4LIB digest 1756 In-Reply-To: <200003061659.IAA02054@webjunction.org> Message-ID: >One of the goals is have one location >(database) containing the information, then using that information to >generate web pages such as "E Journals alphabetical and by subject", >"Internet Resources by subject" - page that list relevant websites based >on >subjects (keywords) such as web pages, Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, >journals, databases, etc. The ultimate goal is to have fewer static web >pages to maintain. > What I am looking for is a web page with a list of all the >Electronic Journals and Databases available, subject keywords, a short >description, the provider, and any other helpful information. I have >found some web pages such as http://www.arl.org/scomm/edir/archive.html >(Directory of Electronic Journals, Newsletters and Academic Discussion >Lists >Archive) But these lists do not have a subject keywords. > Thanks > Mathew Stephen > Mississippi State University check out: http://medicine.wustl.edu/ecat http://medicine.wustl.edu/ecat2/DWUM From elpub2000 at albertina.ru Tue Mar 7 01:39:37 2000 From: elpub2000 at albertina.ru (elpub2000) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:19 2005 Subject: Electronic Publishing 2000 - Conference announcement and CfP Message-ID: <002901bf8800$4ad65040$1802010a@ART.albertina.ru> Dear Sirs, We are happy to announce that The Fourth International Conference on Electronic Publishing will be held in Kaliningrad (Russia) in August, 2000. Could we ask that you please forward this information to people using your existing mailing lists? Please read the call for paper below. Organising Committee elpub2000@albertina.ru C A L L F O R P A P E R S ICCC/IFIP Fourth International Conference on Electronic Publishing ELECTRONIC PUBLISHING IN THE THIRD MILLENNIUM Kaliningrad/Svetlogorsk, Russia August 17-19, 2000 Kaliningrad State University The 4th conference will continue the traditions of the previous conferences which took place in Great Britain, 1997, in Hungary, 1998, and in Sweden, 1999. It will be held in Kaliningrad, one of the most dynamic regions of Russia, which has a status of a special economic zone. The conference will concentrate on electronic publishing for both specialists and the general public. We welcome speakers on non-technical and technical problems. Non-technical problems: socio-economic aspects of electronic publishing in modern society including presentations of projects on electronic libraries, archives, information systems etc., as well as their implementation in educational, cultural and health care institutions. It will also include other interesting papers within the named frame without any restriction. Technical problems: prospective technologies of electronic publishing, file formats, protocols, networking, retrieval techniques etc. Conference Objectives: Exchange of international experience for scientific and practical purposes focusing on both technical and non-technical problems of IT in international communication, including demonstration of models and electronic publishing projects, etc. Co-ordination of activities. Suggested Topics a.. Role of electronic publishing in modern society (in mass media, education, information dissemination process) a.. Electronic publishing research (platforms, systems, software) a.. Formats of the Future. Is standardization important? a.. New developments in computer design and graphics for electronic publishing a.. Electronic advertising a.. Internet and CD publishing, new publishing models, e-books a.. Electronic publishing products in library automation systems a.. Storage and preservation. Security. Ethical and legal aspects of e-publishing The list of topics is not meant to be exhaustive and submissions on any topic within the conference overall theme will be considered. Forms of Presentation: The programme consists of plenary and parallel sessions, panel debates and computer presentations. Speakers will be given 35 minutes total including time for questions. Papers will be published in the conference proceedings. All participants will be given sets of information materials: conference programme, collection of papers, list of participants. Conference preparation will be displayed on the Internet. The conference web-site will have up-to-date information, abstracts of papers, information about participants. The Programme Committee now calls for papers for presentation at the conference. These should deal with actual experiences, research or development projects, or intellectual contributions to the theme of the conference. We would be especially interested in papers reporting experience of real-life activities and presenting new, innovative ways of communicating and publishing electronically. The working language of the conference will be English. Russian speakers will have the option to present in Russian with simultaneous translation into English. Paper submission must include: - Title of paper - Authors' names - Company name, if represented - City/town - Phone, fax, e-mail - Abstract in English of no more than 500 words Paper abstracts should be sent by e-mail (using text only format; no formatting; double space between paragraphs) to the Organising Committee: elpub2000@albertina.ru. The deadline for the submission is March 30, 2000. Paper abstracts will be considered by the Programme Committee members. Decisions will be sent to the participants by e-mail before April 15, 2000. The deadline for the submission of the full text of the paper will be May 31, 2000. Only one author per paper (speaker) will be charged a reduced conference fee, but will be responsible for their own travel and accommodation costs. Time and Venue: The conference will take place at a very picturesque resort, one of the pearls of the Baltic Sea coast - Svetlogorsk (former Raushen). Suggested travel arrangements: by air: Aeroflot; SAS by train: direct Berlin - Gdynia - Kaliningrad by bus: direct from Warsaw, Gdansk - Gdynia, Olsztyn (Poland); Vilnius (Lithuania) by ferry: from Kiel (Germany); Gdynia (Poland). Arrival day - August 16, 2000. Conference opening - August 17, 2000. Plenary and parallel sessions, panel debates and computer presentations - August 17-19, 2000. Conference ends on August 19, 2000. Contact person: Prof.Dr.Vera Zabotkina Vice-Rector for International Affairs Kaliningrad State University 14, A.Nevskogo str., Kaliningrad 236041, Russia Tel.: + (0112) 46 59 02 Fax: + (0112) 53 62 60, 46 59 02 E-mail: elpub2000@albertina.ru Further developments and news of the conference will be announced at the conference web-site: http://www.albertina.ru/elpub2000 . From Reynolds at nbict.nbi.ac.za Tue Mar 7 04:32:49 2000 From: Reynolds at nbict.nbi.ac.za (Yvonne Reynolds) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: Image maps breaking up Message-ID: Hi, Has anyone else experienced this problem?. I have a small image map at the top of a web page. If I preview the page in a browser (IE) it looks fine when the page loads, but if I scroll up and down the page, the image cracks up/fractures - almost as it it is trying to load multiple versions of itself one on top of the other. Other pages have a fairly similar image map- with 4 hotspots as opposed to the 6 on the problem image map - and they are functioning perfectly, Any ideas on what might be going wrong? The code looks fine. Yvonne Yvonne Reynolds Web site Manager/ Librarian National Botanical Institute Kirstenbosch. P/Bag x 7, Claremont 7735, South Africa Tel +27 21 762 1166 Fax +27 762 0646 email: reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za http://www.nbi.ac.za From lbspodic at ust.hk Tue Mar 7 05:13:02 2000 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick, HKUST Library, 2358-6743) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Subject keyword lists for Online Journals and Databases In-Reply-To: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F40@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> References: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F40@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: If you are looking for something you cvan implement on your own site, consider 'Links' from Gossamer-Threads (http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scripts/links/). We are quite happy with it. -Spode At 7:47 AM -0800 6/3/00, Stephen, Mathew wrote: > I'm in the process to redesigning our library website. One of the >areas I would like to change is for some pages to be dynamically generated. >I'm looking at the list of online Electronic Journals and Databases we >subscribe to. I would like to put these journals titles into a database >with keywords (along with other information such as URL, short description, >setup information, etc...). Currently we have a list of journals and >databases listed by subject, but the subject breakdown is not always very >descriptive (for example "General"). One of the goals is have one location >(database) containing the information, then using that information to >generate web pages such as "E Journals alphabetical and by subject", >"Internet Resources by subject" - page that list relevant websites based on >subjects (keywords) such as web pages, Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, >journals, databases, etc. The ultimate goal is to have fewer static web >pages to maintain. > What I am looking for is a web page with a list of all the >Electronic Journals and Databases available, subject keywords, a short >description, the provider, and any other helpful information. I have >found some web pages such as http://www.arl.org/scomm/edir/archive.html >(Directory of Electronic Journals, Newsletters and Academic Discussion Lists >Archive) But these lists do not have a subject keywords. > Thanks > Mathew Stephen > Mississippi State University - - - - - Edward F Spodick, Systems Librarian - lbspodic@ust.hk Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library tel: 852-2358-6743 fax: 852-2358-1043 From Reynolds at nbict.nbi.ac.za Tue Mar 7 09:05:15 2000 From: Reynolds at nbict.nbi.ac.za (Yvonne Reynolds) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: Hi, Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone have 2 monitors attached to the computer they use to design their web site? I am sure I have heard of this before and I would like to set up 2 with differing cards and screen resolutions so I can see at a glance what pages will look like on differing monitors. Our IT Dept seem horrified by this. Has anyone tried this? What particular problems are there or obstacles to be overcome? TIA Yvonne PS earlier today I posted a query relating to an image map which was breaking up. I solved it by recreating the map- it now works - must have become corrupted. Yvonne Reynolds Web site Manager/ Librarian National Botanical Institute Kirstenbosch. P/Bag x 7, Claremont 7735, South Africa Tel +27 21 762 1166 Fax +27 762 0646 email: reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za http://www.nbi.ac.za From zalbenrl at alverno.edu Tue Mar 7 09:27:55 2000 From: zalbenrl at alverno.edu (Robin L Zalben) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: tables, imagemaps etc. Message-ID: <38C511EB.5A23C2A3@alverno.edu> Thanks to all who sent advice and assistance regarding the image behind the table. Our e-mail was working sporadically yesterday, and during the time when I couldn't receive/send mail, I noticed that it worked in Internet Explorer and not Netscape. I also found confirmation of that on the W3.org website. I've since concluded that an Image Map is the way to go...despite the fact that I have NEVER done any work with images and/or image maps. If anyone knows of a spectacular website which explains editing images and creating an image map, please pass it on. I have already looked in the http://www.devsearch.com website, and found a few possibilities, but some of you probably know some better sites. Thanks again, Robin Zalben Automation Librarian Webmistress in training (isn't that the permanent state?) Alverno College Milwaukee, WI From MStephen at library.msstate.edu Tue Mar 7 09:45:17 2000 From: MStephen at library.msstate.edu (Stephen, Mathew) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hi, (2 monitor question) Message-ID: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F58@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> Windows 98 allows you to have two separate computer monitors hooked up to the same computer. You will also need to put in another video card. If your not using Windows 98 (I have to use NT at work), then you may have troubles. What I would suggest as an alternative, and what I'm planning on doing myself, is getting another computer, which can be an older computer, and using it to check the page. My second computer will be a 'dual boot' machine (using software such as Partition Magic). I will install several different operating systems such as Windows 95, Windows 98, NT, Linux, etc.. I will also be putting different versions of browsers on the machine. For example IE 4 and IE 5. They say you should design your website so that it will be compatible with at least the last two generations of browsers. Then I should be able to test the new site to see how compatible it will be with various browsers and operating systems. I can also use the second computer to dial in to check the proxy software (Ezproxy) to make sure that our protected materials such as Journals and Databases will work for students calling in off campus. Mathew Stephen Mississippi State University -----Original Message----- From: Yvonne Reynolds [mailto:Reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 8:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hi, Hi, Does anyone have 2 monitors attached to the computer they use to design their web site? I am sure I have heard of this before and I would like to set up 2 with differing cards and screen resolutions so I can see at a glance what pages will look like on differing monitors. Our IT Dept seem horrified by this. Has anyone tried this? What particular problems are there or obstacles to be overcome? TIA Yvonne PS earlier today I posted a query relating to an image map which was breaking up. I solved it by recreating the map- it now works - must have become corrupted. Yvonne Reynolds Web site Manager/ Librarian National Botanical Institute Kirstenbosch. P/Bag x 7, Claremont 7735, South Africa Tel +27 21 762 1166 Fax +27 762 0646 email: reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za http://www.nbi.ac.za From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 7 10:13:01 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Hi, (2 monitor question) In-Reply-To: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F58@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: Not bad, but I would suggest getting a Mac G4 with lots of RAM and hard disk space and run Virtual PC. That way you get the two main platforms that people use (comparatively, not too many people surf the net using Linux) and you don't waste a lot of time comparing things that probably don't differ much (the many flavors of windows). The icing on the cake is that no reboot is necessary, a control-key combination flips you back and forth between Windows and Mac. Or, hunt down a cast-off computer and have a second one around to do the checking. My rallying cry is "Two CPUs for every desk!". I actually think two is too few, but you have to start somewhere. Roy On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Stephen, Mathew wrote: > Windows 98 allows you to have two separate computer monitors hooked > up to the same computer. You will also need to put in another video card. > If your not using Windows 98 (I have to use NT at work), then you may have > troubles. > What I would suggest as an alternative, and what I'm planning on > doing myself, is getting another computer, which can be an older computer, > and using it to check the page. My second computer will be a 'dual boot' > machine (using software such as Partition Magic). I will install several > different operating systems such as Windows 95, Windows 98, NT, Linux, etc.. > I will also be putting different versions of browsers on the machine. For > example IE 4 and IE 5. They say you should design your website so that it > will be compatible with at least the last two generations of browsers. Then > I should be able to test the new site to see how compatible it will be with > various browsers and operating systems. > I can also use the second computer to dial in to check the proxy > software (Ezproxy) to make sure that our protected materials such as > Journals and Databases will work for students calling in off campus. > Mathew Stephen > Mississippi State University > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yvonne Reynolds [mailto:Reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 8:18 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hi, > > > Hi, > Does anyone have 2 monitors attached to the computer they use to design > their web site? I am sure I have heard of this before and I would like to > set up 2 with differing cards and screen resolutions so I can see at a > glance what pages will look like on differing monitors. Our IT Dept seem > horrified by this. > > Has anyone tried this? What particular problems are there or obstacles to > be overcome? > > TIA > Yvonne > > PS earlier today I posted a query relating to an image map which was > breaking up. I solved it by recreating the map- it now works - must have > become corrupted. > > Yvonne Reynolds > Web site Manager/ Librarian > National Botanical Institute > Kirstenbosch. > P/Bag x 7, Claremont 7735, South Africa > Tel +27 21 762 1166 > Fax +27 762 0646 > email: reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za > http://www.nbi.ac.za > From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Tue Mar 7 11:08:22 2000 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt Crawford) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: Multiple displays/multiple PCs Message-ID: <8825689B.0058A87B.00@NOTES.RLG.ORG> Roy T.'s suggestion is interesting--but I wonder whether it addresses the major differences in color models between Mac and Windows PCs? (That is: pages look significantly different on a Mac display vs. a Windows display, even if the monitor used is identical.) I suspect that the Mac virtual-windows systems still use the Mac color model, although Roy may know better. With Windows 98, trying out different color depths and screen resolutions on a single machine is reasonably trivial, even without adding a second display and a dual-display graphics card. You just need to have the quickres (I may have the name wrong) applet in your tray. (In Windows 95, you can do the same thing, but you have to download Power Toys to get the functionality). (Damned if I know how to do this stuff in Windows NT, which I use at work...you seem to trade off flexibility for stability.) But that won't deal with the Mac color-model issues. It's only 5% of the market, but it's a vocal 5%... Or, as Roy suggests, if you already have a Mac, add a cheapo PC, either used or a new baseline unit; $800 should do nicely--you can even get a first-tier brand-name low-end unit for that much (e.g., Gateway's all-in-one Astro). Of course, if your design is decent, the differences encountered at different resolutions and color depths will pale in comparison to the differences in browsers and browser configurations. Has anyone figured out just how little live real estate is actually left on a 640x480 screen (with the toolbar set visible, and maybe with a fixed ad area reducing real estate) using Navigator with all its tool bars and location bars active? Is it even 240 vertical pixels? From ras at anzio.com Tue Mar 7 11:43:21 2000 From: ras at anzio.com (Bob Rasmussen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Hi, (2 monitor question) In-Reply-To: <7A8559587522D31194D700A0C99D76F8786F58@NT.Library.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: I'll chime in here, because I have actually set up a dual monitor PC, although not for the purpose of website design. My setup is on Win98; I believe it is possible on Win2000 also, but not NT. Pointers: 1. I was advised, and complied, to buy the second video card from the same manufacturer as the first (which came with the PC). 2. You may have a choice of bus/card type, PCI or AGP. Your PC's BIOS may allow you to configure which one is "primary". I had to switch to AGP as primary in order to resolve some problems. 3. You can actually have up to 9 drivers/monitors. There are even video cards available with multiple drivers on one card. 4. Some laptops can be configured so that the external monitor is a "second" monitor, as opposed to a duplicate-image monitor. I used this approach to experiment first, and decided I liked the concept. 5. Two 17" monitors gives you a great deal of screen space, much cheaper than one large monitor, and more useful for side-by-side work. 6. You can arrange your multiple monitors into a virtual desktop, and drag windows from one to another. Some programs are better than others at being configurable to always come up on the same monitor. 7. You tend to lose your mouse pointer in all that screen space. Hope this helps. -- Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com or sales@anzio.com or support@anzio.com ftp://ftp.anzio.com voice: 503-624-0360 http://www.anzio.com fax: 503-624-0760 From jmscott at ucla.edu Tue Mar 7 12:06:16 2000 From: jmscott at ucla.edu (Justin Scott) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hi, In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000307090001.00ae7100@pop.ben2.ucla.edu> Another option would be to replace your current video card with a Matrox Millennium G400 card with the "dual head" feature (runs 2 monitors from one card). I'm not sure if it handles 2 different resolutions, but you could probably fake it. It seems to be able to do just about everything else. The web page is at http://www.matrox.com/mga/products/mill_g400/features.htm. Alternately, the QuickRes program that someone else mentioned is a great (and free!) option. There is an "enhanced" version called MultiRes, still free, available from http://www.entechtaiwan.com/. It runs on NT and seems to be pretty solid. It's available from the "Free Software" area, about halfway down the page. At 06:11 AM 3/7/00 , Yvonne Reynolds wrote: >Hi, >Does anyone have 2 monitors attached to the computer they use to design >their web site? I am sure I have heard of this before and I would like >to set up 2 with differing cards and screen resolutions so I can see at a >glance what pages will look like on differing monitors. Our IT Dept seem >horrified by this. > >Has anyone tried this? What particular problems are there or obstacles >to be overcome? > >TIA >Yvonne > >PS earlier today I posted a query relating to an image map which was >breaking up. I solved it by recreating the map- it now works - must >have become corrupted. > >Yvonne Reynolds >Web site Manager/ Librarian >National Botanical Institute >Kirstenbosch. >P/Bag x 7, Claremont 7735, South Africa >Tel +27 21 762 1166 >Fax +27 762 0646 >email: reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za >http://www.nbi.ac.za From BPasicznyuk at mail.ppld.org Tue Mar 7 13:24:28 2000 From: BPasicznyuk at mail.ppld.org (Pasicznyuk, Bob) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: IE 5 as Shell + Timeout Message-ID: I've been working on a build for our public-access computers that uses Internet Explorer 5 as the shell. I like the results, but am faced with 2 troubles: (1) In the past we used Windows' native screen saver feature to execute a timeout that send the patron back to the home page, closes all open windows, and cleans up cookies and Netscape's prefs.js file. When running IE as the shell the screen saver approach doesn't work. (2) There's no place to clean up large or repetitive items in the print cue when IE is running as the shell. Any ideas? Any arguments for dropping the whole shell approach? Thanks. Bob Pasicznyuk, Systems Analyst The Pikes Peak Library District bpasicznyuk@mail.ppld.org 719/630-1152 X1121 From FranL at rpl.lib.ar.us Tue Mar 7 16:00:09 2000 From: FranL at rpl.lib.ar.us (Frances Levin) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: IE 5.01 Font problem Message-ID: <01EE8F00A71DD2118EF60080ADB367BD05CF78@libserver1.rpl.lib.ar.us> We have 11 public access computers which we try to set up the same. One of them is now printing a script type of font and many feel it is almost illegible. It is a Win 95 pentium 166. We have checked under Internet options/fonts and it shows Latin based and type font as New Times Roman. Plain text shows Courier New. View /encoding shows Western European, Language is English US. The problem is usually associated with a drop down box or other fill in the form type items or the frame in the patron's free mail where they print the contents of an email they received. Any ideas why only one of 11 machines is doing this? Frances W. Levin, Assistant Director Rogers Public Library 711 South Dixieland Road Rogers, AR 72758-4033 (501) 621-1152 Ext. 23 Fax (501-621-1165 From dfaires at wahoo.sjsu.edu Tue Mar 7 16:27:46 2000 From: dfaires at wahoo.sjsu.edu (Debra Faires) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape Message-ID: Has anyone else found it impossible to view slide shows prepared with PowerPoint 2000 (and saved as html) with Netscape? I've tried using Netscape Communicator v. 4.7 and 4.5 on both PC and Mac. All return only Javascript error messages after warning that the site has been optimized for viewing with Internet Explorer. And, yes, the PowerPoints work when viewed with IE5. I've checked the Netscape site but found no references to the problem. I haven't tried their fee based technical support. That will be the next step, I suppose. Here is a test PowerPoint: http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/courses/204.dowlin/ppttest.htm/TEST_files/frame.htm Is the only solution to abandon Netscape when viewing new PowerPoints? That seems to bring up larger issues . . . Thanks- Debra Faires SLIS student San Jose State University dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu From msauers at bcr.org Tue Mar 7 16:29:44 2000 From: msauers at bcr.org (Michael Sauers) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: PPT2k has a compatibility option that will allow you to save the show as IE only or NS ans IE. IE only is the default choice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Sauers, Internet Trainer Bibliographical Center for Research (BCR) Aurora, CO :: msauers@bcr.org :: http://www.bcr.org/~msauers The WWW Library Directory is @ http://www.webpan.com/msauers/libdir/ Buy books, music or videos online? http://www.dealpilot.com/?partner=1307 "I want to know what good is a Web search engine that returns 324,909,188 'matches' to my key word. That's like saying, 'Good news, we've located the product you're looking for. It's on Earth.'" --W. Bruce Cameron Opinions expressed are my own unless otherwise noted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From CNolan at Trinity.edu Tue Mar 7 16:31:27 2000 From: CNolan at Trinity.edu (Nolan, Chris) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape Message-ID: Hi, Debra. I believe that I have saved PPT2000 presentations that work with Netscape and IE5. You need to choose the option that saves the file in a format compatible with both browsers; look under Save As Web Page, then choose Publish, and you should see these options. The default option is an IE-compatible format only. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher W. Nolan Head of Reference & Interim Digital Support Manager Coates Library, Trinity University 715 Stadium Dr. San Antonio, TX 78212 cnolan@trinity.edu http://www.trinity.edu/cnolan -----Original Message----- From: Debra Faires [mailto:dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 3:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape Has anyone else found it impossible to view slide shows prepared with PowerPoint 2000 (and saved as html) with Netscape? I've tried using Netscape Communicator v. 4.7 and 4.5 on both PC and Mac. All return only Javascript error messages after warning that the site has been optimized for viewing with Internet Explorer. And, yes, the PowerPoints work when viewed with IE5. I've checked the Netscape site but found no references to the problem. I haven't tried their fee based technical support. That will be the next step, I suppose. Here is a test PowerPoint: http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/courses/204.dowlin/ppttest.htm/TEST_files/frame.htm Is the only solution to abandon Netscape when viewing new PowerPoints? That seems to bring up larger issues . . . Thanks- Debra Faires SLIS student San Jose State University dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu From sgoodlif at library.utah.edu Tue Mar 7 14:55:59 2000 From: sgoodlif at library.utah.edu (Stephanie Goodliffe) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: Position: Instruction Librarian, University of Utah Message-ID: <200003071500625.SM00204@ALEX.LIB.UTAH.EDU> Instruction Librarian Marriott Library University of Utah As a result of expanding services, the University of Utah seeks a motivated and innovative individual to serve as a team member in a successful and growing library instruction program. We welcome entry- level candidates. Instruction Librarian Works with members of the Instruction Division to plan, implement, and innovate the instruction program. Develops and leads group and individual instruction and training for students, staff, and faculty. Teaches credit courses. Works closely with the Reference Department, Academic Computing, the Multimedia Center, and other library departments. Masters new technologies and stays current in library applications. Creates instructional and training materials in print, interactive web-based, and multimedia formats. Provides reference services to patrons and staff in order to understand how various technologies and the Library are used. QUALIFICATIONS Required: MLS from an ALA-accredited library school. Substantial knowledge of and experience with electronic resources, desktop and Internet applications. Demonstrated effective training/teaching skills in group and one-on-one settings. Evidence of strong oral and written communication skills. Commitment to providing excellent and innovative service. Ability to work with users of varying technical expertise. Ability to meet University's requirements for promotion and continuing appointment. Preferred: Formal teaching experience. Knowledge of current issues and trends in library instruction. Reference or computer help desk experience. Experience in an academic library. Salary: Minimum $30,000, depending on qualifications, excellent benefits worth approximately 33% of salary. Marriott Library is an ARL library with holdings of more than 2.5 million volumes and access to 4,500 electronic journals and a considerable number of other networked electronic resources. During a recent expansion, teaching facilities were expanded to include three PC labs, two Mac labs, 3 multimedia classrooms and a 250-seat auditorium, all with multimedia capabilities. Undergraduate education is a university priority and library instruction a growing emphasis. We teach more than 400 library instruction sessions per semester. The University is situated on a 1500-acre campus in Salt Lake City offering excellent cultural, entertainment, and outdoor recreation activities. The Salt Lake City-Ogden metro area was rated as the #1 place to live in the most recent edition of the Places Rated Almanac. Application Procedures: Send a detailed letter of application addressing how your experience matches the qualifications, a r?sum?, and names, addresses, and phone numbers of three references to: Kristeen Arnold, Personnel Officer 327 Marriott Library 295 South 1500 East, Rm. Dock Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0860 Applications received or postmarked by April 24th will be given full consideration. The University of Utah is an EO/AA Employer. We encourage applications from women and minorities and provide reasonable accommodations to known disabilities of applicants and employees. Stephanie Goodliffe Marriott Library Instruction Librarian sgoodlif@library.utah.edu (801) 585-0542 From levinej at sls.lib.il.us Tue Mar 7 17:23:06 2000 From: levinej at sls.lib.il.us (Jenny Levine) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape References: Message-ID: <38C5814A.5C86446A@sls.lib.il.us> I, too, have had the problem with PowerPoint 2000, even when specifying code for both browsers. It still generated nonsense that was useless in Navigator, and I couldn't get rid of the frames. I finally had to revert to PowerPoint 97 to get something usable. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny Levine 125 Tower Drive Internet Development Specialist Burr Ridge, IL 60521 Suburban Library System +1 (630) 734 5141 http://www.sls.lib.il.us/ levinej@sls.lib.il.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nolan, Chris" wrote: > > Hi, Debra. I believe that I have saved PPT2000 presentations that work with > Netscape and IE5. You need to choose the option that saves the file in a > format compatible with both browsers; look under Save As Web Page, then > choose Publish, and you should see these options. The default option is an > IE-compatible format only. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Christopher W. Nolan > Head of Reference & Interim Digital Support Manager > Coates Library, Trinity University > 715 Stadium Dr. > San Antonio, TX 78212 > cnolan@trinity.edu http://www.trinity.edu/cnolan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debra Faires [mailto:dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 3:25 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape > > Has anyone else found it impossible to view slide shows prepared with > PowerPoint 2000 (and saved as html) with Netscape? > > I've tried using Netscape Communicator v. 4.7 and 4.5 on both PC and Mac. > All return only Javascript error messages after warning that the site has > been optimized for viewing with Internet Explorer. And, yes, the > PowerPoints work when viewed with IE5. > > I've checked the Netscape site but found no references to the problem. I > haven't tried their fee based technical support. That will be the next > step, I suppose. > > Here is a test PowerPoint: > http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/courses/204.dowlin/ppttest.htm/TEST_files/frame.htm > > Is the only solution to abandon Netscape when viewing new PowerPoints? > That seems to bring up larger issues . . . > > Thanks- > > Debra Faires > SLIS student > San Jose State University > dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu From cchick at netcom.com Tue Mar 7 17:32:35 2000 From: cchick at netcom.com (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm also finding this frustrating. Even when specifying both browsers, I can't read the notes section in Netscape, and since it's not adjustable in Netscape, as it is in IE, there's not much I can do. Does anyone use another presentation software package that does a nice job of saving to html? Problem is that I really like how Powerpoint 2000 presentations show up in IE, with the outline on the side, etc., which is why I don't want to go back to '97, but I don't want to be browser dependent, either. ------------------------------------------------------------- Cindy Chick cchick@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------- Co-Editor, Co-Publisher, LLRX.com http://www.llrx.com ------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Nolan, Chris wrote: > Hi, Debra. I believe that I have saved PPT2000 presentations that work with > Netscape and IE5. You need to choose the option that saves the file in a > format compatible with both browsers; look under Save As Web Page, then > choose Publish, and you should see these options. The default option is an > IE-compatible format only. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Christopher W. Nolan > Head of Reference & Interim Digital Support Manager > Coates Library, Trinity University > 715 Stadium Dr. > San Antonio, TX 78212 > cnolan@trinity.edu http://www.trinity.edu/cnolan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Debra Faires [mailto:dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 3:25 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape > > > Has anyone else found it impossible to view slide shows prepared with > PowerPoint 2000 (and saved as html) with Netscape? > > I've tried using Netscape Communicator v. 4.7 and 4.5 on both PC and Mac. > All return only Javascript error messages after warning that the site has > been optimized for viewing with Internet Explorer. And, yes, the > PowerPoints work when viewed with IE5. > > I've checked the Netscape site but found no references to the problem. I > haven't tried their fee based technical support. That will be the next > step, I suppose. > > Here is a test PowerPoint: > http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/courses/204.dowlin/ppttest.htm/TEST_files/frame.htm > > > Is the only solution to abandon Netscape when viewing new PowerPoints? > That seems to bring up larger issues . . . > > Thanks- > > Debra Faires > SLIS student > San Jose State University > dfaires@wahoo.sjsu.edu > From lawrencv at OHSU.EDU Tue Mar 7 18:38:34 2000 From: lawrencv at OHSU.EDU (Valerie Lawrence) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Cindy Chick wrote: > Does anyone use another presentation software package that does a nice > job of saving to html? Yep. HTML. ;^) Seriously, I have prepared presentations using HTML rather than PowerPoint. It's not that difficult if you know HTML and/or have access to good web authoring software. HTML presentations convert for different browsers re-e-e-e-al nice! See "Web-Based Slide Presentations" by Melissa L. Just at http://www.library.ucsb.edu/universe/just.html for a lot of good reasons for doing this. If you know ahead of time that you will eventually be converting a slide presentation to HTML, you can do just as effective a presentation using HTML, and your conversion will be a LOT cleaner. For starters, you'll only have one file for each slide, instead of three! Val Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian Western States Chiropractic College 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. From cchick at netcom.com Tue Mar 7 20:19:37 2000 From: cchick at netcom.com (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried doing my presentation for my Internet Librarian in straight html, and it took forever. Each page was "slide sized", etc. I vowed to never do that again! ------------------------------------------------------------- Cindy Chick cchick@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------- Co-Editor, Co-Publisher, LLRX.com http://www.llrx.com ------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Valerie Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Cindy Chick wrote: > > > Does anyone use another presentation software package that does a nice > > job of saving to html? > > Yep. HTML. ;^) > > Seriously, I have prepared presentations using HTML rather than > PowerPoint. It's not that difficult if you know HTML and/or have access to > good web authoring software. HTML presentations convert for different > browsers re-e-e-e-al nice! See "Web-Based Slide Presentations" by Melissa > L. Just at > > http://www.library.ucsb.edu/universe/just.html > > for a lot of good reasons for doing this. If you know ahead of time that > you will eventually be converting a slide presentation to HTML, you can do > just as effective a presentation using HTML, and your conversion will be a > LOT cleaner. For starters, you'll only have one file for each slide, > instead of three! > > Val > > Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian > Western States Chiropractic College > 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 > Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 > Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of > my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. > > > > From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Tue Mar 7 21:13:27 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B394@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> I have just started using CSS and style sheets on our library website. I would like some input from you wonderful people on how the site now looks for the second level pages immediately off the main library webpage at: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ The style sheet contains: BODY { background: #FFFFFF url("http://www.morrisville.edu/library/paperbck.jpg"); font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif ; font-size:medium} P {font-size:medium} H1 { font-weight: bold; font-size: 200%; text-align: center; color: black } H2 { font-weight: bold; font-size: 160%; color: black } H3 { font-weight: bold; font-size: 140%; color: black } H4 { font-weight: bold; font-size: 120%; color: black } H5 { font-weight: bold; font-size: 110%; color: black } A:link {font-weight: bold; text-decoration:none; color:blue} A:visited {font-weight: bold; text-decoration:none; color:black} A:active {font-weight: bold; text-decoration:none; color:red} A:hover {font-weight: bold; font-style:italic ;background: gray; color:yellow} Is there anything else I should add or anything I should change for readability. IE 4.01 is the standard on our campus. I have left most of the old html coding in place for backward compatibility. Thanks. ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ VOTE -- March 7, New York Primary From wohrlaj at groupwise1.duc.auburn.edu Tue Mar 7 22:14:46 2000 From: wohrlaj at groupwise1.duc.auburn.edu (Andrew Wohrley) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:20 2005 Subject: Call for reviewers Message-ID: Please excuse any cross-postings. If interested, please reply directly to wohrlaj@mail.auburn.edu, not to the list. Call for Reviewers Telecommunications Electronic Review (TER) is looking for book reviewers. If you have responsibility for networks, telecommunications, or systems administration, and like to write, we would like to hear from you. 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For more information, contact: Scott Stebelman Group Leader for Education and Instruction Gelman Library George Washington University Washington, D.C. 20052 202/994-1342 scottlib@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu From mwhitchu at library.utah.edu Wed Mar 8 09:28:47 2000 From: mwhitchu at library.utah.edu (Michael Whitchurch) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: POSITION: INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT SPECIALIST Message-ID: Instructional Support Specialist Marriott Library University of Utah Qualifications: Bachelor's degree in technical area; familiarity in working with UNIX (Sun Solaris); Knowledge of networking, including an understanding of TCP/IP; knowledge and experience working with HTML and a scripting language; skilled in effective communication, both written and interpersonal. Preferred qualifications: Computer Science degree; experience with Windows and Macintosh OS; experience with CGI, Perl and JavaScript; experience with Java, C, and other computer languages; experience in providing assistance to faculty on the technical issues; experience in developing and providing training sessions in areas of expertise; experience in developing concise, readable technical documentation; and experience with a relational database. Duties: Works with technical professionals to ensure that the Web system design, direction, policies, and security meet group needs. Assist with log file analysis and the selection of Web site management and usage analysis tools. Work as part of a development team to help faculty establish production schedule and provide input on the architecture and mechanics of proposed courses and project. Train part time TAC Center employees and provide input on their performance evaluation. Participate in semi-annual student and faculty focus groups to determine the usability of the U-Online web site. Implement changes approved by TAC Center team. Provide support as needed for TAC Center documents, including newsletters and brochures. Participate in professional development activities. Other duties as assigned. 40 hours per week. Grade: BB1. Annual starting salary: $35,000. Posted: Note: Applications for this position must be submitted through Human Resource Administration, which is located at 101 Annex Building. For additional information, please contact Nancy Smith (581-7709) or Kristeen Arnold (581-7707). From schnell.9 at osu.edu Wed Mar 8 10:00:38 2000 From: schnell.9 at osu.edu (Eric Schnell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: Prospero 1.32 Released Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000308085310.00a628f0@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Prospero is an electronic document delivery tool designed as a complement to Ariel. It converts Ariel's TIFF files to PDF and distributes them directly to patrons using the Web or email. Prospero also allows the import of TIFF and PDF files not associated with Ariel. New in Prospero 1.32: http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/prospero/ * TWAIN scanner support -- scan directly into Prospero using a scanner's native software, or, software built into Prospero. This is the first release of the Prospero's built-in scanning software and we are still working on compression. Right now it is 4:1 (1mb file compresses to 250k). This will improve with time. We are testing on a HP 6300 scanner with an document feeder. Currently, only 300 DPI Black and White images are supported. Scanners that make use of ISIS drivers, such as the Minolta PS3000, may or may not be supported in the future. * Modified logging system -- there are now two tabs. The tab "On Web Server" shows what documents are waiting to be viewed by patron on the Web server. The "Log" tab tracks documents sent to the patron via the web or email. The later lists activity such as user deletes and all processed document. Prospero is free to use, copy, modify, or redistribute under the terms of the GNU General Public License. -Eric Eric Schnell Assistant Professor Head, Information Technology Services Prior Health Sciences Library The Ohio State University schnell.9@osu.edu / 614-292-4870 http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/eric.html From jahb at lehigh.edu Wed Mar 8 10:04:57 2000 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape References: Message-ID: <38C66C19.55ACB770@lehigh.edu> Um, what does 'slide sized' mean? (I am really interested in this, since I've never bothered with Powerpoint but done all my presentations in HTML -- admittedly using Composer, etc.-- and am now thinking of going to Dreamweaver to do outline-like presentations with frames.) Cindy Chick wrote: > > I tried doing my presentation for my Internet Librarian in straight html, > and it took forever. Each page was "slide sized", etc. > I vowed to never do that again! > -- / Jennifer Heise, Web Mgmnt, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Linderman Library, 30 Library Drive, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From peterj at rand.lcl.lib.ne.us Wed Mar 8 10:33:45 2000 From: peterj at rand.lcl.lib.ne.us (Peter Jorgensen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] CSS and Style Sheets In-Reply-To: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B394@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Drew, Bill wrote: > I have just started using CSS and style sheets on our library website. I > would like some input from you wonderful people on how the site now looks > for the second level pages immediately off the main library webpage at: > > http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ I don't know if this is a CSS problem or something else, but for some reason the background color behind your "LibraryLinks" text doesn't come through consistently; instead, your background pattern ("paperbck.jpg") shows through, which makes the "LibraryLinks" text impossible to read (at least for me; this may be due to my colorblindness). Peter Jorgensen Reference Department, Lincoln City Libraries Lincoln, Nebraska peterj@rand.lcl.lib.ne.us From terry.kuny at xist.com Wed Mar 8 10:42:17 2000 From: terry.kuny at xist.com (Terry Kuny) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: ** LIBJOBS: job postings mailing list ** Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000308103343.00bf0980@exchange1.nlc-bnc.ca> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LIBJOBS An employment service list for library, archive and other information service professionals ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ URL: http://www.ifla.org/II/lists/libjobs.htm Since 1995, LIBJOBS has been the primary career opportunities mailing list for LIS professionals. About 150-200 postings are sent to subscribers each month. LIBJOBS is a moderated list and subscribers receive only posted job opportunities. There are no charges for advertising jobs or for subscribing to LIBJOBS. 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We are running Win95 on this old 486 until we can get our new NT workstations installed. Does anyone know how to uninstall this plugin? It has no entry in the Control Panel/Add Remove programs applet, nor can I locate any reference to it within the Netscape preferences menu (or in prefs.js for that matter). Thanks for your help. Dave Swarthout Homer Public Library Homer, Alaska http://www.xyz.net/~hpl/ From leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu Wed Mar 8 13:24:05 2000 From: leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: Hi, (2 monitor question) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000308122405.013ac900@newton.baruch.cuny.edu> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Roy Tennant wrote: >Not bad, but I would suggest getting a Mac G4 with lots of RAM and hard >disk space and run Virtual PC. That way you get the two main platforms >that people use (comparatively, not too many people surf the net using >Linux) and you don't waste a lot of time comparing things that probably >don't differ much (the many flavors of windows). The icing on the cake is >that no reboot is necessary, a control-key combination flips you back and >forth between Windows and Mac. Way to go, Roy! In any case, something short of the hardward solution is a nifty command in the latest release of Fireworks which lets you change the Gamma from PC to Mac or from Mac to PC. This will give you some idea at least of how the images will look on the two platforms. LEO -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Leo Robert Klein 17 Lexington Ave, Box H0520 Web Coordinator & New York, NY. 10010 Digital Resources Developer tel: (212) 802-2373 Newman Library/Baruch College fax: (212) 802-2360 http://newman.baruch.cuny.edu email: Leo_Klein@baruch.cuny.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Wed Mar 8 12:16:48 2000 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew I. Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Shockwave In-Reply-To: <38C6894F.F751E101@xyz.net> Message-ID: Dave, If you go to the Help menu and select "Abotu Plug-ins", you'll get a list of the currently installed plug-ins and the DLL associated with it. Follow the path in Windows Explorer and delete the offending file. On this workstation, I have the following entry: File name: C:\PROGRAM FILES\NETSCAPE\COMMUNICATOR\PROGRAM\plugins\npswf32.dll Shockwave Flash 3.0 r8 So, if I delete npswf32.dll, it should take care of the problem. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Folks - > > Patrons at our library have installed Shockwave plugin into NN v4.08. We > > are running Win95 on this old 486 until we can get our new NT > workstations installed. Does anyone know how to uninstall this plugin? > > It has no entry in the Control Panel/Add Remove programs applet, nor can > > I locate any reference to it within the Netscape preferences menu (or in > > prefs.js for that matter). > > Thanks for your help. > > Dave Swarthout > Homer Public Library > Homer, Alaska > http://www.xyz.net/~hpl/ > From cchick at netcom.com Wed Mar 8 12:40:50 2000 From: cchick at netcom.com (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: <38C66C19.55ACB770@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: Here, take a look: http://www.llrx.com/extras/intlib/intro.htm I said "slide-sized" because I've seen some html presentations where it was all one page and the presenter just scrolled down, which would be admittedly much easier. ------------------------------------------------------------- Cindy Chick cchick@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------- Co-Editor, Co-Publisher, LLRX.com http://www.llrx.com ------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Jennifer Heise wrote: > Um, what does 'slide sized' mean? > > (I am really interested in this, since I've never bothered with > Powerpoint but done all my presentations in HTML -- admittedly using > Composer, etc.-- and am now thinking of going to Dreamweaver to do > outline-like presentations with frames.) > > Cindy Chick wrote: > > > > I tried doing my presentation for my Internet Librarian in straight html, > > and it took forever. Each page was "slide sized", etc. > > I vowed to never do that again! > > > > > -- > / Jennifer Heise, Web Mgmnt, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources > \ \ Linderman Library, 30 Library Drive, Bethlehem PA 18015 > / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu > > "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard > From lawrencv at OHSU.EDU Wed Mar 8 13:18:37 2000 From: lawrencv at OHSU.EDU (Valerie Lawrence) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Cindy Chick wrote: > I tried doing my presentation for my Internet Librarian in straight html, > and it took forever. Each page was "slide sized", etc. > I vowed to never do that again! Oh, well. Sorry -- people's mileage varies. What did you mean by "slide-sized?" Val Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian Western States Chiropractic College 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. From lawrencv at OHSU.EDU Wed Mar 8 14:42:34 2000 From: lawrencv at OHSU.EDU (Valerie Lawrence) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Viewing PowerPoint2000 Presentations in Netscape In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Cindy Chick wrote: > Here, take a look: http://www.llrx.com/extras/intlib/intro.htm Really nice presentation, Cindy! > I said "slide-sized" because I've seen some html presentations where it > was all one page and the presenter just scrolled down, which would be > admittedly much easier. Yeah, and easier to turn it into a handout for the audience, too! I found it harder, though, when I was preparing my presentation -- had trouble "hitting my mark," so to speak, when I scrolled down. I ended up doing it both ways -- a long single page to use as a handout and to put on the web later; and separate slides to use for the actual presentation. Just my own disabilities, I guess. Both ways have their advantages. Val Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian Western States Chiropractic College 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. From msauers at bcr.org Wed Mar 8 17:29:04 2000 From: msauers at bcr.org (Michael Sauers) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: list of library e-lists? Message-ID: Has anyone put up (or knows the URl of) a list of e-mailing lists (Listserv, Majordomo, Listproc, etc.) just for librarians? TIA for any help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Sauers, Internet Trainer Bibliographical Center for Research (BCR) Aurora, CO :: msauers@bcr.org :: http://www.bcr.org/~msauers The WWW Library Directory is @ http://www.webpan.com/msauers/libdir/ Buy books, music or videos online? http://www.dealpilot.com/?partner=1307 "I want to know what good is a Web search engine that returns 324,909,188 'matches' to my key word. That's like saying, 'Good news, we've located the product you're looking for. It's on Earth.'" --W. Bruce Cameron Opinions expressed are my own unless otherwise noted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wcj1 at cornell.edu Wed Mar 8 17:41:06 2000 From: wcj1 at cornell.edu (Bill Jenkins) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] list of library e-lists? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000308164030.00ad5ee0@mail.smu.edu> At 02:31 PM 03/08/2000 -0800, Michael Sauers wrote: >Has anyone put up (or knows the URl of) a list of e-mailing lists (Listserv, >Majordomo, Listproc, etc.) just for librarians? Library Oriented Lists and Serials: http://www.wrlc.org/liblists/liblists.htm BillJ From beden at ccmail.nevada.edu Wed Mar 8 14:23:13 2000 From: beden at ccmail.nevada.edu (Brad Eden) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: Position announcement: Public Services Librarian Message-ID: <8825689C.006A8B13.00@ccmail.nevada.edu> Public Services Librarian RESPONSIBILITIES: The University of Nevada, Las Vegas Libraries seek a Public Services Librarian to help implement user services planned for the university's new Lied Library opening in 2000. Responsibilities will include participating in an active and evolving instruction program that incorporates both general and subject-specific sessions; serving as part of a service team on Research and Information desks that will include weekend and evening duty; contributing to the design and development of a variety of library web-based projects such as tutorials, virtual reference services and an online resource library. An area of bibliographic responsibility may also be assigned. The position will report to the Head of Instructional Services. QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: ALA accredited MLS or equivalent. Information technology experience relevant to an academic environment including a demonstrated knowledge of Web design, HTML, and Windows. Initiative, flexibility, and excellent communication and interpersonal skills. Ability to work cooperatively and independently with diverse staff and patrons. Demonstrable knowledge and excitement about the effective integration of cutting-edge technology into the delivery of research and information services. Strong commitment to teaching and user-focused service. QUALIFICATIONS DESIRED: Academic reference and instruction experience. Experience with Java scripting, CGI or PERL authoring script, dynamic HTML and multimedia computer equipment. SALARY RANGE: This is a tenure-track position. Salary is commensurate with qualifications and experience. The University has an excellent fringe benefits package. THE SETTING: UNLV is Nevada's largest comprehensive, doctoral-degree-granting institution with 22,500 students and more than 700 full-time faculty. The UNLV libraries are comprised of the main James R. Dickinson Library, the Curriculum Materials Library, the Architecture Studies Library, and a soon-to-be constructed Music Library. Construction on a new main library, the Lied Library, began in early 1998. This 300,000 square foot, $51 million facility will include an Information Commons and a fully wired four-classroom Collaborative Learning Center. For additional information, see the UNLV World Wide Web site at http://www.unlv.edu. APPLICATION DEADLINE & DETAILS: Send letter of application, r -------------- next part -------------- ?sum?, and the names, addresses, telephone numbers and e-mail addresses of three professional references to: Michaelyn Haslam, Chair; Public Services Librarian Search Committee; James R. Dickinson Library; University of Nevada, Las Vegas; 4505 Maryland Parkway Box 457001; Las Vegas, NV 89154-7001. Review of applications will begin May 1, 2000 and will continue until the position is filled. Specific questions may be addressed to Michaelyn Haslam, Search Committee Chair, at haslamm@nevada.edu, or call (702) 895-1899. UNLV is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer. Persons are selected on the basis of ability without regard to race, color, sex, age, national origin, sexual orientation, religion, disability or veteran status. From lawrencv at OHSU.EDU Wed Mar 8 19:40:18 2000 From: lawrencv at OHSU.EDU (Valerie Lawrence) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: Can I have everything I want? Message-ID: Well, maybe that question's a little too broad... here's what I want to do. I have a page that I want to use a background graphic with blue on the left, a thin black line, and white to the right. So far, so good. The background graphic looks the way I want it to. The page copy is all in a table. I want the table to be relative-sized (percentage rather than pixels) so it will display "decently" (I know, relative term! I mean without too much white space at the right) on any monitor resolution. I know it can't be perfect on all, but I want it to be acceptable on any and I don't want low-res users to have to scroll to the right. My main problem is that I want to force the navigation bar to display within the blue area, and the main copy to display within the white area, for all resolutions, for all browsers, for all time. ;^) Not that I'm a control freak, or anything. Can I do this? If I size the table using percentages, can I still specify that table cells be specific pixels wide -- and have any browser understand this? I've already found, based on the table's current specifications, that 1) the pages look awful at 640x480 and 2) Netscape and IE interpret the size instructions differently. NS will size the table for the screen width (95%) but IE only fills up as much as the graphics at the top of the page specify. (I hope this makes sense; I'm kind of fried.) I keep thinking there's got to be something I'm missing here that would make this easier/possible/etc. Sample pages may be viewed at http://www.wschiro.edu/test -- there are links to three options but they're all essentially the same except for the photo in the upper left corner. Ideas & suggestions will be much appreciated! Val Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian Western States Chiropractic College 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. From tim.tripp at uhn.on.ca Wed Mar 8 20:25:53 2000 From: tim.tripp at uhn.on.ca (Tripp, Tim) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: list of library e-lists? Message-ID: Also, Library Journals, Mailing Lists, and News Groups Archives > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Jenkins [SMTP:wcj1@cornell.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: list of library e-lists? > > At 02:31 PM 03/08/2000 -0800, Michael Sauers wrote: > >Has anyone put up (or knows the URl of) a list of e-mailing lists > (Listserv, > >Majordomo, Listproc, etc.) just for librarians? > > > Library Oriented Lists and Serials: > http://www.wrlc.org/liblists/liblists.htm > > BillJ > -- Tim Tripp Virtual Library Project Manager University Health Network http://www.uhealthnet.on.ca/ Voice : (416) 340-5266 Home: ttripp@sympatico.ca ICQ : 38301750 http://www.inforamp.net/~ttripp SLA Toronto Chapter - Home of the Librarians' Resource Centre http://www.sla.org/chapter/ctor/ From plum at ulink.net Wed Mar 8 20:47:32 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Can I have everything I want? References: Message-ID: <008101bf8969$7044ed40$a414a0d1@ycxfssto> Re: If I size the table using percentages, can I still specify > that table cells be specific pixels wide -- and have any browser > understand this Answer: Nope From david at cn.net.au Wed Mar 8 21:04:58 2000 From: david at cn.net.au (David Novak) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: FYI: Field Searching the Web/Forms in Webpages Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000309100458.007b5cf0@mail.iinet.net.au> I have completed a major rewrite the The Spire Project. Of interest here is a fine analysis of searching the web showing the various search techniques (Boolean, truncation, proximity & field searching). http://spireproject.com/webpage.htm The Spire Project also demonstrates an intensive use of forms to outside resources (75 currently) working like a soup-ed up All-in-One search page. Both steps are promising improvements to the standard list of links to web resources. David Novak - david@cn.net.au The Spire Project - a better way to find information. SpireProject.com SpireProject.co.uk Cn.net.au * The Spire Project presents unified access to the many search tools and techniques for finding information. Our 'search blueprints' incorporate strategies, direct links, search techniques and forms to relevant search tools, all to present a holistic approach to finding particular information. From glen.davies at cce.ac.nz Wed Mar 8 21:57:16 2000 From: glen.davies at cce.ac.nz (glen.davies@cce.ac.nz) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Can I have everything I want? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Unfortunately no matter how much you play around to get it looking right all it takes to blow it apart is for somebody to have there default fonts set larger than normal. With your tables being relative sized the columns will just resize to accomodate the bigger font and so they won't line up over the background image. The only way to achieve what you want with support for older browsers is to put the backround colours in the table cells, ie. make the document background white, the left table cell blue, a thin table cell with nothing in it except maybe a transparent gif for spacing and a black background and then a right cell with a white background. It is not the way html is supposed to work though, that is using tables for layout. But I am not enough of a purist myself to give you a lecture about this. (no doubt there are others on the list who can though :-) ) On 8 Mar 00, at 17:37, Valerie Lawrence wrote: > Well, maybe that question's a little too broad... here's what I want to > do. > > I have a page that I want to use a background graphic with blue on the > left, a thin black line, and white to the right. So far, so good. The > background graphic looks the way I want it to. The page copy is all in a > table. I want the table to be relative-sized (percentage rather than > pixels) so it will display "decently" (I know, relative term! I mean > without too much white space at the right) on any monitor resolution. I > know it can't be perfect on all, but I want it to be acceptable on any and > I don't want low-res users to have to scroll to the right. My main problem > is that I want to force the navigation bar to display within the blue > area, and the main copy to display within the white area, for all > resolutions, for all browsers, for all time. ;^) Not that I'm a control > freak, or anything. > > Can I do this? If I size the table using percentages, can I still specify > that table cells be specific pixels wide -- and have any browser > understand this? I've already found, based on the table's current > specifications, that 1) the pages look awful at 640x480 and 2) Netscape > and IE interpret the size instructions differently. NS will size the > table for the screen width (95%) but IE only fills up as much as the > graphics at the top of the page specify. (I hope this makes sense; I'm > kind of fried.) I keep thinking there's got to be something I'm missing > here that would make this easier/possible/etc. > > Sample pages may be viewed at http://www.wschiro.edu/test -- there are > links to three options but they're all essentially the same except for the > photo in the upper left corner. > > Ideas & suggestions will be much appreciated! > > Val > > Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian > Western States Chiropractic College > 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 > Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 > Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of > my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. > ******************************************** Glen Davies IT Consultant Christchurch College of Education Dovedale Ave Christchurch Ph. 64-3-343 7737 glen.davies@cce.ac.nz ************************************************ From ttripp at sympatico.ca Wed Mar 8 22:07:29 2000 From: ttripp at sympatico.ca (Tim Tripp) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: Librarians' Resource Centre Updates for March Message-ID: <38C71572.48358BCB@sympatico.ca> Greetings, Gentlefolk, The list of New Resources for March 2000 is now available on the Librarians' Resource Centre. http://www.sla.org/chapter/ctor/toolbox/resource/ Back issues of New Resources are also available on the site. When visiting the site, please join the LRC mailing list to receive monthly updates and other announcements. We look forward to receiving your suggestions and feedback. Cheers, Tim Tripp Margaret Gross -- Tim Tripp Voice: (416) 340-5266 Virtual Library Project Manager University Health Network http://www.uhealthnet.on.ca/ Home: ttripp@sympatico.ca ICQ : 38301750 http://www.inforamp.net/~ttripp SLA Toronto Chapter - Home of the Librarians' Resource Centre http://www.sla.org/chapter/ctor/ ### There is a crack in everything. ### That's how the light gets in. - Leonard Cohen From mcohen at stmarys-ca.edu Wed Mar 8 22:32:11 2000 From: mcohen at stmarys-ca.edu (mcohen@stmarys-ca.edu) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: JOB ANNOUNCEMENT: ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS LIBRARIAN Message-ID: <38C71B3B.38452612@stmarys-ca.edu> JOB ANNOUNCEMENT: ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS LIBRARIAN Saint Mary's College of California Want to explore new means of providing library and educational media to an outstanding comprehensive college with a strong liberal arts tradition? Have a working knowledge of computers and networks? Interested in developing your skills in an academic library environment? We're currently using Linux, Solaris, Apache, PHP, and MySQL as well as ERL, WebSPIRS, and an III integrated library system / proxy server to provide Library and Instructional Media services to a distributed client population of over 5,000 students, faculty and staff from Sacramento to San Jose from our Moraga campus. We operate a multimedia Instructional Media Center and are engaged in building a digital/hybrid library consisting of print, images, video, and electronic databases. We're looking for staff to help us support and develop these services as well as maintain a 60 workstation NT-based Library LAN. Excellent opportunity for recent Library/Information Sciences graduate to learn and develop state-of-the-art technologies in a cooperative and friendly working environment. Chance to participate in instructional media, library collections, and digital library development, consult with faculty and provide direct support of students and library staff. Qualifications: Experience with Windows NT LAN support and administration. Demonstrated problem-solving skills; ability to work independently as well as cooperatively with patrons, colleagues and staff. Creativity in the development of new services and commitment to library service and profession. Desirable: MLIS or related degree, experience with Unix and/or scripting languages, experience with integrated library systems, preferably in an academic library. Responsibilities: The Electronic Systems Librarian administers Library/Media servers and LAN, assists in management and development of the departmenal Website, participates in systems nad media operations management, and supervises student staff. Also assists in developing and providing training programs for library staff and faculty in the use of Library systems, instructional software, and multimedia. Depending on qualifications, may participate in providing Library reference, collection development and user instruction. Reports to Head of Systems and Media. See http://gaelnet.stmarys-ca.edu or email mcohen@stmarys-ca.edu for further information. Salary dependent on qualifications and experience. Generous vacation and benefits package. Apply to: Human Resources Department, Saint Mary's College of California, P.O. Box 4227, Moraga CA 94575. (925) 631-4212. Consideration of applications begins April 15, 2000. -- Martin J. Cohen mcohen@stmarys-ca.edu Media Services & Library Computing voice: (925) 631-4229 Saint Mary's College of California fax: (925) 376-6097 Moraga CA 94575 ars longa vita brevis From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 8 22:46:02 2000 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Can I have everything I want? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Transparent pixel shims should do the trick. The following replacements for the first two cells of your first option test page seem to work. Chris Gray (HTML purist gone to the dark side) University of Waterloo On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Valerie Lawrence wrote: > Well, maybe that question's a little too broad... here's what I want to > do. > > I have a page that I want to use a background graphic with blue on the > left, a thin black line, and white to the right. So far, so good. The > background graphic looks the way I want it to. The page copy is all in a > table. I want the table to be relative-sized (percentage rather than > pixels) so it will display "decently" (I know, relative term! I mean > without too much white space at the right) on any monitor resolution. I > know it can't be perfect on all, but I want it to be acceptable on any and > I don't want low-res users to have to scroll to the right. My main problem > is that I want to force the navigation bar to display within the blue > area, and the main copy to display within the white area, for all > resolutions, for all browsers, for all time. ;^) Not that I'm a control > freak, or anything. > > Can I do this? If I size the table using percentages, can I still specify > that table cells be specific pixels wide -- and have any browser > understand this? I've already found, based on the table's current > specifications, that 1) the pages look awful at 640x480 and 2) Netscape > and IE interpret the size instructions differently. NS will size the > table for the screen width (95%) but IE only fills up as much as the > graphics at the top of the page specify. (I hope this makes sense; I'm > kind of fried.) I keep thinking there's got to be something I'm missing > here that would make this easier/possible/etc. > > Sample pages may be viewed at http://www.wschiro.edu/test -- there are > links to three options but they're all essentially the same except for the > photo in the upper left corner. > > Ideas & suggestions will be much appreciated! > > Val > > Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian > Western States Chiropractic College > 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 > Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 > Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of > my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. > > From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Thu Mar 9 02:18:42 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:21 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Can I have everything I want? References: Message-ID: <38C75052.F05C93B4@qglibrary.org.il> Yes you can. Two tables: Outer table : left column, width of the blue navigation bar. Right (content) column no specified width align=center. Inner (content) table inside right cell of outer table, align=left, no width specified. Good luck HTH Valerie Lawrence wrote: > > Well, maybe that question's a little too broad... here's what I want to > do. > > I have a page that I want to use a background graphic with blue on the > left, a thin black line, and white to the right. So far, so good. The > background graphic looks the way I want it to. The page copy is all in a > table. I want the table to be relative-sized (percentage rather than > pixels) so it will display "decently" (I know, relative term! I mean > without too much white space at the right) on any monitor resolution. I > know it can't be perfect on all, but I want it to be acceptable on any and > I don't want low-res users to have to scroll to the right. My main problem > is that I want to force the navigation bar to display within the blue > area, and the main copy to display within the white area, for all > resolutions, for all browsers, for all time. ;^) Not that I'm a control > freak, or anything. > > Can I do this? If I size the table using percentages, can I still specify > that table cells be specific pixels wide -- and have any browser > understand this? I've already found, based on the table's current > specifications, that 1) the pages look awful at 640x480 and 2) Netscape > and IE interpret the size instructions differently. NS will size the > table for the screen width (95%) but IE only fills up as much as the > graphics at the top of the page specify. (I hope this makes sense; I'm > kind of fried.) I keep thinking there's got to be something I'm missing > here that would make this easier/possible/etc. > > Sample pages may be viewed at http://www.wschiro.edu/test -- there are > links to three options but they're all essentially the same except for the > photo in the upper left corner. > > Ideas & suggestions will be much appreciated! > > Val > > Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian > Western States Chiropractic College > 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 > Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 > Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of > my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. -- Hanan Cohen Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il Qiriat Gat Library - http://www.qglibrary.org.il In association with : Bashan Systems ***Love and Peace*** From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Thu Mar 9 08:53:36 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Can I have everything I want? References: Message-ID: <004e01bf89ce$e966a5f0$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Lawrence" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 8:36 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Can I have everything I want? > Well, maybe that question's a little too broad... here's what I want to > do. > > I have a page that I want to use a background graphic with blue on the > left, a thin black line, and white to the right. So far, so good. The > background graphic looks the way I want it to. The page copy is all in a > table. I want the table to be relative-sized (percentage rather than > pixels) so it will display "decently" (I know, relative term! I mean > without too much white space at the right) on any monitor resolution. I > know it can't be perfect on all, but I want it to be acceptable on any and > I don't want low-res users to have to scroll to the right. My main problem > is that I want to force the navigation bar to display within the blue > area, and the main copy to display within the white area, for all > resolutions, for all browsers, for all time. ;^) Not that I'm a control > freak, or anything. As others have pointed out, any attempt to align text with a background image is doomed to failure for some percentage of your users. Conceptually, what you want is very simple to do with CSS: it's just two blocks of text, one with a blue background and a black border on the right, the other with a white background. The problem, of course, is Netsc^H^H^H^H^Hbrowser support. As a transitional design, I recommend you experiment with a table design that puts the blue background in the left-hand table cell(s) rather than on the page background, preferably with style properties, or with bgcolor attributes. As for screen resolution, I'm afraid the big challenge is not your table tags, but your 500px-wide logo, especially combined with a 116px-wide image in another table column. There's 616 pixels of width right there, even with no widths specified on table cells (remember that with window elements and scrollbars, even a maximized window at 640x480 will probably only have about 620px viewable width). Get the logo out of your table, and many of your width problems go away. There's no requirement that all table cells have widths assigned to them. You could certainly do something like:
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Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu Thu Mar 9 09:23:19 2000 From: jqj at darkwing.uoregon.edu (JQ Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: <3395227155.952582999@JQJ> Bill Drew gives us a style sheet to critique. >http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Bill, Your style sheets look generally good. A couple of tips: 1/ test using Netscape. Many things behave differently in NS and MSIE, with MSIE generally being more intuitive and arguably a more correct implementation of the spec. (you'll of course also test with style sheets disabled to insure graceful degradation). 2/ example of the above: given your style sheet, font-family is not inherited from the body into embedded tables when viewed with netscape. So, for instance, on your 1.html or 6.html pages, the font is wrong for the bulletted list. Conceptually, it's useful to think of Netscape as having a browser default style sheet that specifies font-family (based on the value you enter in preferences) for both BODY and TD tags; such a style would have lower priority than an explicit style you specified for TD, but would have higher priority than a style applied by inheritance. You can work around this problem by adding to your style sheet TD,TH {font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif ;} 3/ as a generalization of the above, beware of inheritance for styles. Inheritance is necessary, but it's the source of many bugs. As another example, suppose someone used your H1 tag inside a tag that had a black background-color style. You'd then get black on black. Some CSS verifiers recommend that whenever you code a text color for a style you also explicity include a background-color (in your case that would be H1 {color: black; background: transparent} which doesn't address the inheritance issue. Personally, I'd give up on the background image) 4/ note that A:hover is an MSIE extension, and is not supported by Netscape. So given your style rules, a Netscape user has less clue that certain text on your pages is hyperlinked (rather than plain blue or green dead text). Particularly problematic for totally colorblind viewers (granted, that's a smaller segment than R-G colorblind). Given your decision on how to represent hyperlinks, I'd recommend that no other text on the page be presented in bold (so, for instance, don't use bold for "Click on Instant Message"). 5/ don't use styles unless you think you really need them. For instance, why force font-size:medium on your viewers if for some reason they prefer a different size? JQ Johnson Office: 115F Knight Library Academic Education Coordinator mailto:jqj@darkwing.uoregon.edu 1299 University of Oregon phone: 1-541-346-1746; -3485 fax Eugene, OR 97403-1299 http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jqj/ From lytlea at oclc.org Thu Mar 9 09:22:34 2000 From: lytlea at oclc.org (Lytle,Amy) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: REMINDER: Registration Deadlines for OCLC Institute Seminars Message-ID: [Widely Cross-Posted, with apologies. Please redistribute as appropriate] REMINDER: Registration deadlines are approaching for the following 3 OCLC Institute seminars: OHIONET/OCLC Institute "Technology Planning in a Time of Rapid Change" - Registration deadline is March 16. Offered April 6-7, Dublin, Ohio This 1.5 day seminar addresses the application of strategic planning to major decisions facing libraries in the allocation of resources, trends in electronic information, distance learning and workstation and telecommunications technologies, as well as issues and alternatives in providing electronic database access. Details can be found at http://www.oclc.org/institute/courses/techplan.htm "Using Metadata for Knowledge Management" - Registration Deadline is March 20. Offered April 10-12, Dublin, Ohio This 2.5 day seminar offers structured lab exercises, as well as plenary sessions and small group discussion. Participants will, as part of a project team, design and implement a MARC- or webserver based resource description system using metadata records for a real-world collection. Details can be found at http://www.oclc.org/institute/courses/use_metadata.htm "Knowledge Management: Methods and Systems" - Early Bird Registration Deadline is March 24. Offered May 8-10, Dublin, Ohio This NEW 2.5 day seminar asks: Is knowledge management the new librarianship? Explore the background, motivations, and definitions of knowledge management, and the intersection of this increasingly popular management trend with the Web revolution and digital knowledge resources. The focus will be on threats and opportunities for libraries. Topics include components and characteristics of knowledge management, system fundamentals, functional requirements, and system performance. Instructional methods include lecture, group discussion, guided laboratory exercises, case analyses, and small group presentations. Details can be found at http://www.oclc.org/institute/courses/kam_methods.htm If you have questions or need further information please contact Amy Lytle, OCLC Institute Event Coordinator, at (800) 848-5878 x 5212 or via e-mail at mailto:lytlea@oclc.org From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Thu Mar 9 10:02:50 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B3A5@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> JQ has many good ideas. I had already gotten some of them suggested in private messages. As far as the font-size:medium. All of the major browsers let you increase or decrease the size of the font so this is almost a non-issue. I was optimizing the page for our laptop users and public work stations here in the library as much as I can without imposing unneeded burdens on other viewers. Hope to get more suggestions soon. Is it possible to create my own style element such as for the logo at the top of the screen? I used inline style elements for that but would like to do it all in a style sheet. Really getting like the advantages of making one change that is instantly reflected in all of the appropriate pages. ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ "A smile is the shortest distance between two people." - Victor Borge From WSullivan at csl.ctstateu.edu Thu Mar 9 10:02:37 2000 From: WSullivan at csl.ctstateu.edu (William Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: CT Library Network - Position Announcement Message-ID: CONNECTICUT STATE LIBRARY STATEWIDE LIBRARY CATALOG COORDINATOR The Connecticut State Library is seeking an articulate, technically knowledgeable individual with a strong customer-service orientation who will manage and develop the current statewide library catalog ("reQuest") into a one-stop, Web-accessible service that is a window to the holdings of every library in Connecticut. You will work and learn in an environment that encourages innovation and creative thinking, with a focus on the user. This is a high priority, high visibility project of the Connecticut Library Network (www.cslib.org/cln) and an exciting opportunity to join a skilled group of dedicated professionals. The Statewide Library Catalog Coordinator will promote the awareness and use of the service throughout the state; ensure the integrity and quality control of the catalog, and enrich its contents; identify and implement improvements that will make the system easier to use; identify and promote best practices; plan, coordinate and evaluate library staff training; perform ongoing systems administration and customer service; lead the development of new services; plus other duties as required. Travel required. Qualifications: A Masters Degree in Library Science or Information Science from an ALA-accredited library school, or a Masters Degree in a field closely related to information technology and three (3) years post-graduate professional employment in a library systems environment. Salary: Starting salary $50,370 with annual increases to $61,066 plus fringe benefit package. Applications: A position description with full duties and complete qualifications, and State of CT Application Form PLD-1, are available upon request or you may visit the Connecticut State Library website at www.cslib.org/jobs.htm. Initial close date is March 3, 2000; this position will remain open until filled. Please submit letter of application with resume and State of CT PLD-1 Application to David Peck, Human Resources/Affirmative Action Program Manager, Connecticut State Library, 231 Capitol Avenue, Hartford, CT 06106. Qualified women, minorities, individuals with disabilities, veterans and older persons are strongly encouraged to apply. The Connecticut State Library is an EEO/AA diversity-focused employer. William Sullivan, Administrator Connecticut Library Network 786 South Main Street Middletown, CT 06480 Phone: 860-344-2475 or 888-256-1222 Fax: 860-344-2556 Email: wsullivan@cslib.org www.cslib.org/cln From lwhyman at pacbell.net Thu Mar 9 10:37:43 2000 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: WhiteBoard and Chat Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000309073742.006a2764@pacbell.net> >At 1:52 PM -0800 3/6/2000, Michael Whitchurch wrote: >>Hi All, >> I just received a question from a facutly member who would >>like to find a >>specific kind of software. Is there a software that has both chat and white >>board that run simultaneously? He is looking for something that has both >>running in one screen or split screen. Any information you can give will be >>very appreciated. Probably most of us already have this software installed on our workstations, it's Microsoft NetMeeting. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From jahb at lehigh.edu Thu Mar 9 10:57:16 2000 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Can I have everything I want? References: Message-ID: <38C7C9DC.E596682D@lehigh.edu> > Unfortunately no matter how much you play around to get it looking > right all it takes to blow it apart is for somebody to have there > default fonts set larger than normal. With your tables being relative > sized the columns will just resize to accomodate the bigger font > and so they won't line up over the background image. However, you can get a layout that works most of the time by setting the table width to 100% and setting a pixel size for the cells in the column that is supposed to display in the blue-- and not setting pixel sizes for the cells in the other column(s). From lwhyman at pacbell.net Thu Mar 9 11:54:03 2000 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000309085403.006907e4@pacbell.net> At 06:14 PM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote: >I have just started using CSS and style sheets on our library website...... > At the risk of asking a question that has already been answered, what's a nice, simple way (book? website? mindset?) to get started with CSS? Bear in mind that I'm already over-loaded. Thanks. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From wuolu at mrs.umn.edu Thu Mar 9 12:22:15 2000 From: wuolu at mrs.umn.edu (David Wuolu) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: copyright statement, change every year? Message-ID: <38C7DDC7.7BDFD7D@mrs.umn.edu> I think the answer to this question should be obvious, but I don't know what it is! You've seen: (c) 1998, (c) 2000, (c) 1995-2000, etc. It seems that most web sites change their copyright statement annually -- but is this needed? Is it recommended? Why would you want to change it annually, leave it, put in date ranges, etc.? -- David Wuolu, Rodney A. Briggs Library University of Minnesota, Morris 600 East 4th Street; Morris, MN 56267 (320) 589-6164; wuolu@mrs.umn.edu From John.Little at Duke.edu Thu Mar 9 12:27:28 2000 From: John.Little at Duke.edu (John Little) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000309085403.006907e4@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <001401bf89ec$be506450$4e070398@lib.duke.edu> Includes among other things tutorials, primers, and basics. Take your pick. > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Linda Woods Hyman > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:57 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets > > > At 06:14 PM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I have just started using CSS and style sheets on our library > website...... > > > > At the risk of asking a question that has already been answered, > what's a nice, simple way (book? website? mindset?) to get > started with CSS? Bear in mind that I'm already over-loaded. Thanks. > > > > > **************************** > Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. > Pacific Bell Education First > (619) 237-2020 > http://www.kn.pacbell.com > lwhyman@pacbell.net > From bjones at unf.edu Thu Mar 9 12:32:58 2000 From: bjones at unf.edu (Bob Jones) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] copyright statement, change every year? In-Reply-To: <38C7DDC7.7BDFD7D@mrs.umn.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, David Wuolu wrote: > I think the answer to this question should be obvious, but I don't know > what it is! > > You've seen: (c) 1998, (c) 2000, (c) 1995-2000, etc. > > It seems that most web sites change their copyright statement annually > -- but is this needed? Is it recommended? Why would you want to change > it annually, leave it, put in date ranges, etc.? > The copyright statement can mean that the owner (1) has filed for copyright and/or (2) claims intention to protect the work under copyright (but may not have filed the application). I suspect the specific copyright statements and spanned dates indicate those variations. I am not an attorney! > > -- > David Wuolu, Rodney A. Briggs Library > University of Minnesota, Morris > 600 East 4th Street; Morris, MN 56267 > (320) 589-6164; wuolu@mrs.umn.edu > > > From rmacdona at grcc.ctc.edu Thu Mar 9 12:51:51 2000 From: rmacdona at grcc.ctc.edu (Rachel MacDonald) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: Bill Drew said: >As far as the font-size:medium. All of the major browsers let you increase >or decrease the size of the font so this is almost a non-issue. I was >optimizing the page for our laptop users and public work stations here in >the library as much as I can without imposing unneeded burdens on other >viewers. Hope to get more suggestions soon. The issue is not whether or not people have the option of changing the font size. The issue is that almost everyone has a default font size set in their browsers based on what is most useful and legible for them. By putting a font size statement in your stylesheet, you are overriding everyone's personal preferences. And for me at least, your choice for font size is too large in MSIE--I feel like I'm being yelled at. I'm not trying to tell you how to design--I have no problem with you optimizing pages for your own library work stations (that's what I tend to do as well), but I personally see no need to specify a font size in any way. Being able to change the font size in browsers should be an option--not a necessity due to someone's design choices. rachel rmacdona@grcc.ctc.edu Holman Library, GRCC Auburn, WA From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Thu Mar 9 13:20:16 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B3AF@MAIL1.MORRISVILLE.EDU> Rachel Very good points. I will take them into consideration. I was asked by many people to put in a larger size so that they could read it better without increasing the default size of their browser. ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ "A smile is the shortest distance between two people." - Victor Borge From peterj at rand.lcl.lib.ne.us Thu Mar 9 14:11:26 2000 From: peterj at rand.lcl.lib.ne.us (Peter Jorgensen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] copyright statement, change every year? In-Reply-To: <38C7DDC7.7BDFD7D@mrs.umn.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, David Wuolu wrote: > I think the answer to this question should be obvious, but I don't know > what it is! > > You've seen: (c) 1998, (c) 2000, (c) 1995-2000, etc. > > It seems that most web sites change their copyright statement annually > -- but is this needed? Is it recommended? Why would you want to change > it annually, leave it, put in date ranges, etc.? Because copyright protection begins as soon as a work is created (17 U.S.C. 101 and 102), and web sites' content tends to change frequently, it makes sense to have copyright notices that reflect the various dates of creation of all elements of the site. Peter Jorgensen Reference Department, Lincoln City Libraries Lincoln, Nebraska peterj@rand.lcl.lib.ne.us From greene at bulldog.unca.edu Thu Mar 9 14:39:43 2000 From: greene at bulldog.unca.edu (Araby Greene) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: CSS and Style Sheets Message-ID: <006701bf89ff$39940150$2f801298@lib.unca.edu> A good book to start with is: Cascading Style Sheets: Designing for the Web by H?kon Wium Lie and Bert Bos, 1999. Covers through CSS2 spec. Well-organized, clearly-explained, and includes a browser-compatibility chart for each property. Find shorter tutorials and recommended resources at http://ww.w3c.org/Style/CSS or ZDNet's DevHead, as someone else suggested. Start with something useful, easy, supported by most browsers, and non-critical. Font styles are trickier than they seem. Here are some of my favorite style thingies: BODY {margin-left: 10%; margin-right: 15%} to get rid of the big table with the empty cell on the left to make a flexible margin. .hang { margin-left: +2em; text-indent: -2em; } for a great looking hanging indent to use with

or anything else. UL { list-style: square } To create nice looking square list bullets UL UL { list-style: disc } To make sub-list bullets solid discs Try

to get rid of unwanted space between a paragraph and a horizontal line. Define I,EM as something more readable than Italics. Look at stuff in Netscape first, since it does strange things with style sheets and doesn't "cascade" very well. Look at your stuff on a machine running Linux for a real eye-opener. That's why it's better to start slowly; meltdown is easier to fix if your stylesheet is short. Araby Greene _______________________________________ Araby Greene Coor. of Electronic Resources & Gov't Information Ramsey Library, UNC-Asheville greene@bulldog.unca.edu (828) 251-6632 ----- Original Message ----- > From: Linda Woods Hyman > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:56 AM > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets > > > At 06:14 PM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I have just started using CSS and style sheets on our library > > website...... > > At the risk of asking a question that has already been answered, what's a > nice, simple way (book? website? mindset?) to get started with CSS? Bear in > mind that I'm already over-loaded. Thanks. > > **************************** > Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. > Pacific Bell Education First > (619) 237-2020 > http://www.kn.pacbell.com > lwhyman@pacbell.net > From creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu Thu Mar 9 16:27:35 2000 From: creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu (John Creech) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets In-Reply-To: <006701bf89ff$39940150$2f801298@lib.unca.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Araby Greene wrote: > Look at your stuff on a machine running Linux for a real eye-opener. Araby, could you elaborate on this a bit? Thanks. John Creech Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian Central Washington University Library 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu From lawrencv at OHSU.EDU Thu Mar 9 17:56:30 2000 From: lawrencv at OHSU.EDU (Valerie Lawrence) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: Thank you re: getting everything I want Message-ID: Many, many thanks to all the folks who responded to my plea regarding getting text to display properly and behave itself when it's over a background border. I appreciate all your ideas -- there are quite a few different techniques to try, and I'm hopeful I can find the one that will give the best result for my time and effort. What a great pool of wisdom is out there! Thanks again. Val Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian Western States Chiropractic College 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. From jmk at synopsys.com Thu Mar 9 18:01:04 2000 From: jmk at synopsys.com (Janet Kaul) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: Portal requirements Message-ID: <200003092301.PAA22483@marius.synopsys.com> Anybody out there done a list of enterprise information portal requirements they'd be willing to share? Am starting the process at my company, and would love to get some help. - Janet Kaul, jmk@synopsys.com From lbspodic at ust.hk Thu Mar 9 22:46:49 2000 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick, HKUST Library, 2358-6743) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: problem installing zeta perl for ActivePerl Message-ID: Has anyone successfully installed the 'Zeta perl' perl package for use with Windows' ActivePerl program? We have downloaded the windows package from the developers' site, but have been unable to successfully install it with either nmake or the ppm program. If anyone has succeeded, we'd love to know what we're doing wrong. What we're trying to do is script z39.50 queries from the command line, which would retrieve a specified record, without giving a lot of prompts requiring user interaction, and ideally with some customization of the output format. The Isite client did not quite meet our needs, and zeta perl sounds promising. -Spode - - - - - Edward F Spodick, Systems Librarian - lbspodic@ust.hk Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library tel: 852-2358-6743 fax: 852-2358-1043 From lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Fri Mar 10 01:06:03 2000 From: lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:23 2005 Subject: E-books (fwd) Message-ID: Anyone interested in e-books? The Alliance Library System has just started an e-books list so that librarians can share thoughts, experiences, and ideas. If you are interested in subscribing,send a message to majordomo@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us. Leave the subject line and in the message section put subscribe ebooks-l your email If you have any trouble please email me. Thanks. Lori Bell Automation/Technology Department Alliance Library System 845 Brenkman Drive Pekin, IL 61554 phone: (309)353-4110 fax: (309)353-8281 lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us From Reynolds at nbict.nbi.ac.za Fri Mar 10 03:21:07 2000 From: Reynolds at nbict.nbi.ac.za (Yvonne Reynolds) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: 2 monitor question Message-ID: Many thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information on running 2 monitors. You have given me much food for thought. Yvonne Yvonne Reynolds Web site Manager/ Librarian National Botanical Institute Kirstenbosch. P/Bag x 7, Claremont 7735, South Africa Tel +27 21 762 1166 Fax +27 762 0646 email: reynolds@nbict.nbi.ac.za http://www.nbi.ac.za From greene at bulldog.unca.edu Fri Mar 10 10:41:29 2000 From: greene at bulldog.unca.edu (Araby Greene) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets References: Message-ID: <00e901bf8aa7$1bea1380$2f801298@lib.unca.edu> John, In answer to your question about why seeing one's Web pages in Linux is a life-changing experience: It takes special effort to install and use True Type fonts in Linux, so the typical Netscape user will see the default, ugly, tiny, 75dpi Type 1 PostScript fonts, but not arial, times new roman, etc. For a good browsing experience, the user needs to know how to get and install the Microsoft font pack and also change the .Xdefaults file so that Netscape is forced to display 100 dpi or larger fonts. Web pages that do not specify a font look better on the typical Linux Netscape screen than heavily-styled pages. The default font is then not so hard to read as an even smaller substitute font. Also, when I installed Linux on my home computer, it didn't understand that my video card really could display true-color just fine, and relentlessly displayed 256 colors even when cycling through alternate monitor configs. It took some persistance to fix this problem. Finally had to comment out all other configs except 800 x 600 24-bit color to get X-windows to reliably use my chosen config. Most Web pages look pretty sucky in 256 colors (of course, we all use the "browser-safe" color cube all the time...). I don't always think about Linux users, but there are more of them out there these days. Araby __________________________ Araby Greene Coor. of Electronic Resources & Gov't Information Ramsey Library, UNC-Asheville greene@bulldog.unca.edu (828) 251-6632 ---- Original Message ----- From: John Creech To: Araby Greene Cc: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] Re: CSS and Style Sheets > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Araby Greene wrote: > > > Look at your stuff on a machine running Linux for a real eye-opener. > > Araby, could you elaborate on this a bit? Thanks. > > John Creech > Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian > Central Washington University Library > 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | > office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 > creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu > > > From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Fri Mar 10 10:58:17 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: Netscape article Message-ID: FYI, ZDNet is carrying a story from MSNBC on Netscape, the AOL buyout and the rest of the bloody mess at: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2458154,00.html Roy Tennant From bennetr at wou.edu Fri Mar 10 14:04:19 2000 From: bennetr at wou.edu (Bennett, Roy - WOU Library) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: WebOPAC kiosk setup Message-ID: <200003101902.LAA29943@gilligan.wou.edu> We have developed a dedicated public Web OPAC workstation that meets our security and privacy needs. Following the suggestions from the Web4lib archives and information at the Berkeley SunSITE, we have a kiosk environment that prevents the redisplay of patron information, blocks access to specific domain names, etc. However, we are looking for a way to give patrons a clearer screen message when they select a link that is blocked. We are using Netscape's manual proxy to limit access. This is simple and straightforward for us to setup, but the screen message is too cryptic (or not very informative) for the average patron. We are looking for a way to present a custom message saying something like "This link is not available at this library workstation." Is there a way to tweak Netscape to display a custom message, or do we need to look for another proxy tool to run on the local workstation to present a custom message? When fully implemented, we will run the latest version of Windows 98 and either Netscape Communicator or Navigator standalone. We already use WinSelect Kiosk to block Netscape menus and buttons, and will continue to use that product. Suggestions? Thanks. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Roy Bennett Coordinator of Library Computer Support & Documents Librarian Western Oregon University Library 345 N. Monmouth Ave. Monmouth, OR 97361-1396 Email: bennetr@wou.edu Voice: (503) 838-8893 Fax: (503) 838-8399 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ From kbailey at UMHB.edu Fri Mar 10 14:47:54 2000 From: kbailey at UMHB.edu (Bailey, Katrina) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: Position Available: Reference/Electronic Services, TX Message-ID: <014A83C80F2BD211952C0008C7AC348130F794@newman.umhb.edu> Reference/Electronic Services Librarian Reports to the Director of Learning Resources, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor. Basic Responsibilities: Provide reference service as needed to maintain consistent desk coverage throughout the library, including evening or weekend hours as assigned. Provide collection development, including evaluation, selection, budgetary recommendation, and review for all electronic resources, including databases, electronic journals, and ebooks, working with other librarians when appropriate. Work with the Cataloging Librarian to develop rules and templates for cataloging available electronic resources, including aggregator titles and selected web sites. Evaluate and propose new technology and tools to enhance the library's effectiveness in a timely manner for budgetary requirements. Maintain, revise, and extend the library's web site and other systems as needed. Coordinate activities with the Systems Technician. Provide all Bibliographic Instruction away from the library, including in classrooms and off-campus. This may require occasional day or overnight trips. Work with the faculty in these off-campus programs to provide consistent levels of access and service to all off-campus students. Participate in Bibliographic Instruction within the library as needed, working with the Head of Reference and Serials librarian to provide consistent and pertinent instruction. Provide collection development for other assigned collections, under the direction of the Head of Reference. Assignments are currently Computer Science, Math, and Physics. Qualifications: M.L.S degree from accredited ALA institution. Knowledge of basic HTML, web design, and web development tools. Preferred: Experience with selection, acquisition, cataloging, and maintenance of electronic resources (online databases, journals, ebooks, etc.). Experience with and interest in Z39.50 standards and products. Interest in and commitment to public services, reference, bibliographic instruction, and collection development. Knowledge of basic TCP/IP utilities (eg. ping, IP addressing). Microcomputer, network, and Internet experience a plus. Knowledge of web server management - Microsoft IIS a plus. Skills: Service oriented, client centered librarian. Appreciation for and ability to deal positively and sensitively with a variety of patrons. Ability to communicate effectively in both written and oral mediums. Comfortable working knowledge of microcomputer hardware and software. Professional and personal cooperative relationships with colleagues in the library positively impacts the library's service to the patron. Encouraging, facilitating, inquisitive, people friendly demeanor is necessary. Will be required to be able to enhance a united effort for patron interactive services To apply: Please send resume, cover letter, and 3 references to: Teresa Buck, Acquisitions Librarian Search Committee Chair Townsend Memorial Library, Box 8016 University of Mary Hardin-Baylor 900 College St. Belton, TX 76513 tbuck@umhb.edu For more information, see complete job description at : http://umhblib.umhb.edu/screens/jobE.html . From macdonaldd at sklib.usask.ca Fri Mar 10 15:37:11 2000 From: macdonaldd at sklib.usask.ca (Doug Macdonald) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] WebOPAC kiosk setup In-Reply-To: <200003101902.LAA29943@gilligan.wou.edu> Message-ID: We use an proxy-config script for blocking sites that redirect the blocked sites to an html page (which can have whatever message we want on it, of course). The browsers on our OPACs then point to this script as part of their proxy configuration. A couple of our proxy-config scripts are attached. Doug Macdonald University of Saskatchewan Libraries On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Bennett, Roy - WOU Library wrote: > We have developed a dedicated public Web OPAC workstation that > meets our security and privacy needs. Following the suggestions > from the Web4lib archives and information at the Berkeley > SunSITE, we have a kiosk environment that prevents the redisplay > of patron information, blocks access to specific domain names, etc. > > However, we are looking for a way to give patrons a clearer screen > message when they select a link that is blocked. We are using > Netscape's manual proxy to limit access. This is simple and > straightforward for us to setup, but the screen message is too > cryptic (or not very informative) for the average patron. > > We are looking for a way to present a custom message saying > something like "This link is not available at this library workstation." > > Is there a way to tweak Netscape to display a custom message, or > do we need to look for another proxy tool to run on the local > workstation to present a custom message? > > When fully implemented, we will run the latest version of Windows 98 and > either Netscape Communicator or Navigator standalone. We already use > WinSelect Kiosk to block Netscape menus and buttons, and will continue to > use that product. > > Suggestions? Thanks. > > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > Roy Bennett > Coordinator of Library Computer Support > & Documents Librarian > Western Oregon University Library > 345 N. Monmouth Ave. > Monmouth, OR 97361-1396 > > Email: bennetr@wou.edu > Voice: (503) 838-8893 > Fax: (503) 838-8399 > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > -------------- next part -------------- with (ProxyConfig) { function FindProxyForURL(url,host) { if (dnsDomainIs(host, ".alladvantage.com")) { return "PROXY birch.usask.ca:82" } if (myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.242" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.210" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.13" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.241" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.219" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.235" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.74.41" || myIpAddress() == "128.233.75.182") { if (dnsDomainIs(host, ".passport.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".alloymail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".animail.net") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".apexmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".bonusmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".bootmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".ccnmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".cnnsimail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".coldmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".dcemail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".discoverymail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".ecardmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".email.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".eudoramail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".fetchmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".hotmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".hotmail.ro") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".ichat.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".icq.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".ignmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".imaginemail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".lycosemail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".lycosechat.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".mail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".mail.lycos.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".mail.yahoo.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".mailcity.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".mailexcite.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".netmail.web.aol.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".popmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".prontomail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".rocktetmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".webmail.netscape.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".wowmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".zdnetmail.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".messenger.yahoo.com")) return "PROXY birch.usask.ca:81" else return "DIRECT"; } else { return "DIRECT"; } } } -------------- next part -------------- with (ProxyConfig) { function FindProxyForURL(url,host) { if (isPlainHostName(host) || dnsDomainIs(host, "sundog.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, "library.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, "moondog.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, "hsn.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, "redwing.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, "birch.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, "erl2.usask.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".searchbank.com") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".nlm.nih.gov") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".nrc.ca") || dnsDomainIs(host, ".sfu.ca")) return "DIRECT"; else return "PROXY lib74039.usask.ca" } } From fox at rowland.org Fri Mar 10 15:57:39 2000 From: fox at rowland.org (Chiara Fox) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: File Sizes on the Mac Message-ID: Hello Everyone- I was going though the files on my Institute's Website to determine which ones need to be optimized. My goal is to get the files down to Jakob Nielsen's 36k in total (meaning HTML plus images). I was overwhelmed as I went through the Finder looking at the sizes because most of the .html files are already 32k or bigger. However, if I look at the same file in Fetch, GoLive, or even via my server logs, the size is only around 10k. I seem to remember hearing that the Mac Finder "lies" about the true file size. Does anyone know if this is true? Do you know what size I should believe? If the file is really only 10k, I don't have to worry. But if it's 32k I have a lot of work to do. Thanks for your help! -Chiara Fox __________________________ Technical Services Librarian The Rowland Institute for Science Cambridge, Massachusetts 617.497.4616 617.497.4627 (fax) http://www.rowland.org/ From hagena at nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us Fri Mar 10 16:15:45 2000 From: hagena at nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (Hagen Amen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] File Sizes on the Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Chiara Fox wrote: > I seem to remember hearing that the Mac Finder "lies" about the true > file size. Does anyone know if this is true? Do you know what size > I should believe? If the file is really only 10k, I don't have to > worry. But if it's 32k I have a lot of work to do. Actually, it's no different than windows. You must have a large HD, because your block allocation size is 32K. This is what the Finder will report for any file smaller than 32K. If you look at the Info (Command-I) for the file, you'll see the true size. It's just that the Finder reports how much space the file takes on the HD. So, for this one file that is really 10K, it's taking 32K of HD space. Partitions formatted with HFS+ have a smaller block allocation size. Same for FAT32 on Windows (or NTFS for NT). {smaller for a given partion size, that is} Hagen Amen Network Analyst Multnomah County Library From crowther_ca at yahoo.com Fri Mar 10 16:18:13 2000 From: crowther_ca at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Sherry=20Crowther?=) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: proxy and security issues Message-ID: <20000310211814.12649.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> We are planning to set up either a proxy server or an URL rewriter, however, our College is concerned about security issues. We're interested in the technical issues of security, but I've also been asked about the issue of identity. For example, through the proxy, a student could use the College's identity. Is this a real concern? Any suggestions on how I could address this issue? I'd appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks! --------------------------- Sherry Crowther Web Services Librarian Red Deer College Library Alberta, Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Fri Mar 10 16:21:30 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] File Sizes on the Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Chiara Fox wrote: [snip] > I was overwhelmed as I went through the Finder looking at the sizes > because most of the .html files are already 32k or bigger. However, > if I look at the same file in Fetch, GoLive, or even via my server > logs, the size is only around 10k. [snip] This has to do with the way the Mac allocates disk space. The following Apple Technical Information Library Note: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n8647 has this to say about it (in part): "In both the Macintosh and DOS environment, the maximum number of blocks on a driver is 65,536 because both Operating Systems address the allocation blocks with a 16-bit address. Drives larger than 512 MB cannot use a block size of 8K or less because there just aren't enough addresses. Thus, if a 2 GB drive is one Macintosh partition, the smallest file size allowed is 32K. (If you save a TeachText file with one character in it, it would take up 32K of disk space.) This means that the size of your hard drive determines the minimum size of each file." So the Mac filesystem is not where you should determine the actual file sizes. Roy Tennant On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Chiara Fox wrote: > Hello Everyone- > > I was going though the files on my Institute's Website to determine > which ones need to be optimized. My goal is to get the files down to > Jakob Nielsen's 36k in total (meaning HTML plus images). > > I was overwhelmed as I went through the Finder looking at the sizes > because most of the .html files are already 32k or bigger. However, > if I look at the same file in Fetch, GoLive, or even via my server > logs, the size is only around 10k. > > I seem to remember hearing that the Mac Finder "lies" about the true > file size. Does anyone know if this is true? Do you know what size > I should believe? If the file is really only 10k, I don't have to > worry. But if it's 32k I have a lot of work to do. > > Thanks for your help! > > -Chiara Fox > __________________________ > Technical Services Librarian > The Rowland Institute for Science > Cambridge, Massachusetts > 617.497.4616 > 617.497.4627 (fax) > http://www.rowland.org/ > From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Fri Mar 10 16:27:08 2000 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt Crawford) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: File Sizes (was File Sizes on the Mac) Message-ID: <8825689E.0075D76B.00@NOTES.RLG.ORG> While the information is probably correct for the Mac, I'd have to make one slight correction... >Actually, it's no different than windows. You must have a large HD, >because your block allocation size is 32K. This is what the Finder will >report for any file smaller than 32K. If you look at the Info >(Command-I) for the file, you'll see the true size. It's just that the >Finder reports how much space the file takes on the HD. So, for this one >file that is really 10K, it's taking 32K of HD space. The first sentence is wrong, at least in my experience (with NT Explorer or PowerDesk or W98 Explorer, or just opening folders and looking at the baseline info). Contemporary Windows tools report the "actual" (content-filled) size of files, not the allocated disk space. A 1K file is reported as such, not as 4K or 32K or whatever (depending on file system and hard disk size). (Yes, files in Windows are allocated space in blocks/clusters, as on the Mac--my disagreement is with how Windows reports on file sizes.) From tk at kent.edu Fri Mar 10 16:42:34 2000 From: tk at kent.edu (Tom Klingler) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] File Sizes on the Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 3-10-00 This problem has to do with a combination of your Mac OS's file system and your hard drive size. For the gory details, see: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n8647 The 32K you're seeing is likely the smallest file size your system can see, given its OS, its file structure (e.g., HFS) and its hard drive size. Trust the sizes reported by your other clients! Tom Klingler Kent State At 1:05 PM -0800 03/10/2000, Chiara Fox wrote: >Hello Everyone- > >I was going though the files on my Institute's Website to determine >which ones need to be optimized. My goal is to get the files down >to Jakob Nielsen's 36k in total (meaning HTML plus images). > >I was overwhelmed as I went through the Finder looking at the sizes >because most of the .html files are already 32k or bigger. However, >if I look at the same file in Fetch, GoLive, or even via my server >logs, the size is only around 10k. > >I seem to remember hearing that the Mac Finder "lies" about the true >file size. Does anyone know if this is true? Do you know what size >I should believe? If the file is really only 10k, I don't have to >worry. But if it's 32k I have a lot of work to do. > >Thanks for your help! > >-Chiara Fox >__________________________ >Technical Services Librarian >The Rowland Institute for Science >Cambridge, Massachusetts >617.497.4616 >617.497.4627 (fax) >http://www.rowland.org/ ---------------------------------------- Tom Klingler Head of Systems Libraries & Media Services Kent State University Kent, OH. U.S.A. 44242-0001 330-890-0067 (pager/voicemail) 330-672-2962 (x. 18) 330-672-4811 (fax) tk@kent.edu -------------------------------------------------------------- A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. 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I would therefore like to understand: 1) The advantages associated with this system relative to conventional manual systems 2) The cost of such a system and 3) The number of patrons required at a location to justify this cost I would appreciate any information on the types of such systems that are commerically available. E-mail contacts with libraries that already use such a system as well as vendor website addresses would be also very useful . Appreciate your help. Sagoree Chatterjee ____________________________________________________________________ For the largest MP3 index on the Web, go to http://mp3.altavista.com ____________________________________________________________________ From mildbull at iname.com Fri Mar 10 21:35:24 2000 From: mildbull at iname.com (S. Michael Kim) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: eBook and Stephen King's new novel Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000310202921.00c4aa00@mail.cowboy.net> I was told that Stephen King's new novel is scheduled to be released exclusively on eBook format. http://cnn.com/2000/books/news/03/08/king.ebook/index.html I am very curious about the consequences. What if patrons wanted the item? There might be no alternative format of the 'work' other than eBook format....at least for a while. I am wondering if there is any library which manages eBook-based collection serving to patrons. If that's the case, I would like to know how the library handle the collection. I think there should be acquisition, cataloging, and circulation aspects involved. Also, there will be concerns regarding choice of medium, such as PC format, proprietary eBook device format,etc. It would be nice to have variety of opinions from different areas. Michael ----------------------------- S. Michael Kim Serials Cataloger Edmon Low Library Oklahoma State University mildbull@iname.com ------------------------------- "I'm curious to see what sort of response there is and whether or not this is the future." -- Stephen King From danforth at tiac.net Fri Mar 10 22:54:25 2000 From: danforth at tiac.net (Isabel Danforth) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:39 2005 Subject: test - sorry Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.20000310225425.0083cd90@sunspot.tiac.net> I had mail problems all day today and need to see if I am still subscribed to this list. Isabel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Isabel L. Danforth Technology Librarian danforth@tiac.net Wethersfield Public Library http://www.wethersfieldlibrary.org Coordinator of Librarians' Online Support Team http://gnacademy.tzo.org/lost/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jeff at tcnet.org Tue Mar 14 09:17:38 2000 From: jeff at tcnet.org (Jeff) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Luis Domingues wrote: > I think TWEAK UI can manage that. Don't know if you're using Novell's client > or Microsoft client for Netware. TWEAK UI is in the Win98 CD at > /tool/reskit/ somewhere... You should install it from the INF file. I believe that TweakUI has no effect on Client32 workstations, and based on past experience, the autologin features only work at boot time. Nothing prevents the user from logging out of the workstation and logging in again as another user. I believe TweakUI also behaves similar to NT with respect to holding down the shift key before autologin to prevent it. fwiw, -jeff -- Jeff Godin Network Specialist Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network jeff@tcnet.org - 231/932-8546 voice From nealej at nylink.suny.edu Tue Mar 14 11:55:59 2000 From: nealej at nylink.suny.edu (Jane Neale) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:41 2005 Subject: Announcement: "A LITA Regional Institute: Proxy Web Servers & Aut hentication" in New York City Message-ID: This message will be cross-posted. Apologies in advance for duplication! This LITA regional institute will be offered nationally, but only on a very limited basis. Nylink and METRO are pleased to present... "A LITA Regional Institute: Proxy Web Servers & Authentication." Date and Time: Friday, May 12, 2000; 9:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. (8:30 a.m. registration) Location: Fashion Institute of Technology, Katie Murphy Amphitheatre, 7th Ave. at 27th, New York City Registration fees: $150 Nylink and METRO Members / $195 Non-members (Fee includes breaks, lunch and session materials.) Workshop description: This one-day program from the Library and Information Technology Association (LITA), a division of the American Library Association, provides instruction on the theory of proxy servers and their use in library situations. The background of proxy servers as defined in the HTTP protocol specification will be outlined, followed by a discussion of the application of proxy servers for library uses: -- Conserving bandwidth on your Internet link -- Providing access to IP address-restricted resources to patrons outside your local network -- Only allowing access to resources you specify, or denying access to resources you do not want available from your workstations Example implementations of these applications will also be provided. Special emphasis will be placed on using proxy servers to access IP address-restricted resources, including a discussion of alternatives to proxy servers for solving this particular problem. Audience: Systems librarians and computer professionals with a background in providing Web services. Some technical knowledge about the management of Web servers, such as installing CGI programs, assumed. Knowledge of C and/or PERL recommended. Presenter: Peter Murray, Computer Services Librarian, University of Connecticut School of Law Library To register online and to obtain more information, go to http://nylink.suny.edu/forms/litaprox.htm Registration deadline: April 21. Register before April 1 and be entered into a drawing to win one of a selection of O'Reilly technology books! Cancellation/refund policy: full refund minus $10 handling charge through April 21; 70% refund April 22-May 5; no refund if canceling after May 5. For registrations, cancellations and other inquiries, please contact Carol Donato at Nylink by phone at 800-342-3353 or by e-mail at donatoc@nylink.suny.edu . ======================== Nylink, ( http://nylink.suny.edu ) founded in 1973 as the SUNY/OCLC Network, is a not-for-profit membership organization providing services to libraries throughout New York State and beyond. METRO (Metropolitan New York Library Council) ( http://metro.org ) is a nonprofit membership organization of libraries and library systems in the five boroughs of New York City and Westchester County. From mnyerges at rochester.rr.com Tue Mar 14 16:48:30 2000 From: mnyerges at rochester.rr.com (Mike Nyerges) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000314164830.007ba800@pop-server> At 06:25 AM 3/14/00 -0800, Jeff wrote: > >On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Luis Domingues wrote: > >> I think TWEAK UI can manage that. Don't know if you're using Novell's client >> or Microsoft client for Netware. TWEAK UI is in the Win98 CD at >> /tool/reskit/ somewhere... You should install it from the INF file. > >I believe that TweakUI has no effect on Client32 workstations, and based >on past experience, the autologin features only work at boot time. Nothing >prevents the user from logging out of the workstation and logging in again >as another user... >Jeff Godin I agree with Jeff regarding TWEAK UI. But getting back to Dennis' situation. I'm guessing that your running at least Netware 4. Now I'm wondering if you can set the client on your library machines to operate in Bindery mode with a preferred server. You're not running system polciies are you? Or using Zen to write to the machine's regsitry? Even if you are running polcies, you could point to a policy file tailored for your machines, set for Bindery, not NDS, and with a preferred server. On the preferred server, you could set up just the library user? Is there a way to deny users the DNS and restrict them to a server running in bindery mode? And does the library have its own server? Sorry if I'm just throwing out ideas that leads you nowhere. This situation is totally different from ours, where we're interested in providing as many of our resources (including library resources) over the network to as many machinbes as possible--everything available to everyone anytime. Interesting problem. There's got to be a solution. Let me know what you come up with! Mike Nyerges Library Media Specialist Canandaigua Academy Library http://www.canandaigua.k12.ny.us/academylibrary/ mailto://mnyerges@wfmail.canandaigua.k12.ny.us From bruce at accd.edu Tue Mar 14 17:46:59 2000 From: bruce at accd.edu (Robert Bruce) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Novell login limiting References: <3.0.6.32.20000314164830.007ba800@pop-server> Message-ID: <38CEC163.958967FD@accd.edu> In our Library all of our workstations run Win95 with WinU for security. On powerup the workstations login with windows login. The user cannot get to a login prompt. WinU disables the right mouse button, and controls the desktop, and where the user can save to. We have not had anyone get to a login prompt. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bruce.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 398 bytes Desc: Card for Robert Bruce Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000314/43901df5/bruce.vcf From k.beveridge at norcol.ac.uk Thu Mar 16 04:41:45 2000 From: k.beveridge at norcol.ac.uk (Kirsty Beveridge) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: Re Filemaker e-jnls d'base Message-ID: To: Natalie Sturr Hello I have one query about the d'base - how many users is Filemaker licensed for? Can more than one person use the web version at a time? I'm very pleased to see someone publishing the details behind the d'base - I'm trying to do the same for our e-journals ( on a smaller scale), and not familiar with filemaker 4 yet. Kirsty k.beveridge@norcol.ac.uk From MBaldridge at corestaff.com Thu Mar 16 09:09:20 2000 From: MBaldridge at corestaff.com (Mandy Baldridge) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: Vocabulary Resource Manager San Francisco Message-ID: Vocabulary Resource Manager Our client is a dynamic, successful mid-stage pre-IPO, in a premiere San Francisco location: South of Market, next to the new baseball park. We provide a product that enables a web-site visitor to find what they want without knowing exactly how to ask for it. Compensation package includes pre-IPO options, base range $65k to $100k. Relocation available. Job Description The Vocabulary Resource Manager position is responsible for researching, collecting, and organizing vocabularies relevant to the searching needs of targeted domain areas. A primary goal of this position is to locate and acquire existing vocabulary and terminology resources. The person in this position will be tasked with building up and maintaining an inventory of electronic vocabulary resources to support product development. A subset of this inventory will be assessed and processed into a format that can be used in our products and stored in a vocabulary resource repository. Reports to the Director of Development. Job Responsibilities ? Develop a Source Vocabulary Repository based on a prioritized list of target domains. ? Research the availability of structured vocabularies and terminologies for target domains. ? Research intellectual property restrictions and licensing agreements for vocabulary resources. ? Develop classification structures and taxonomies appropriate for target domain areas. This involves bringing in appropriate structured vocabularies and adapting them when necessary to specific domain needs. Job Qualifications ? Information Science degree or equivalent education and experience. Knowledge of the use of vocabulary resources in an information retrieval context. ? Experience in developing classification structures for browsing web site content. ? Experience with standard resources (SIC/NAICS, UMLS, CAS Registry, etc.) is desired. ? Knowledge of classification principles, the use of term relationships in structured vocabularies, and the use of classification structures to search for information. ? Ability to work independently in a fast-paced, dynamic environment. ? Familiarity with XML and basic text processing experience in Perl or similar scripting language desired. ? Ability to create and maintain a database of vocabulary resources. For further information or consideration contact: Sandra Fykes TelesecCORESTAFF Recruiting Manager Information Management Division http://www.corestaff.com (301) 962-8604 or (888)815-8538 Fax (301) 949-8729 email sfykes@corestaff.com From eric at openly.com Thu Mar 16 09:43:34 2000 From: eric at openly.com (Eric Hellman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re Filemaker e-jnls d'base In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 1:46 AM -0800 3/16/00, Kirsty Beveridge wrote: > To: Natalie Sturr > >Hello >I have one query about the d'base - how many users is Filemaker >licensed for? Can more than one person use the web version at a >time? >I'm very pleased to see someone publishing the details behind the >d'base - I'm trying to do the same for our e-journals ( on a smaller >scale), and not familiar with filemaker 4 yet. > >Kirsty >k.beveridge@norcol.ac.uk Filemaker 4 was usable by an unlimited number of users. A great product in terms of bang/buck. Filemaker 5 comes in several versions. The unlimited version has gotten a lot more expensive ($999); the standard version ($249) has this license restriction: >(e) SPECIAL TERMS FOR FILEMAKER PRO ONLY: If you have licensed the >standard version of FileMaker Pro, when deploying FileMaker Pro for >hosting non-FileMaker Pro clients, you are permitted to host up to >but not more than ten (10) guests (e.g., IP addresses via the Web >Companion) or other API connections (e.g. ODBC, JDBC, Apple Events >or ActiveX) on a rolling twelve (12) hour schedule. You are further >prohibited from using the standard version of FileMaker Pro with any >middleware, application server, CGI, or other software or technology >that allows more than a single client to access any FileMaker Pro >database. Eric Hellman Openly Informatics, Inc. http://www.openly.com/ 21st Century Information Infrastructure LinkBaton: Your Shortcuts to Information http://linkbaton.com/ From MBaldridge at corestaff.com Thu Mar 16 09:46:14 2000 From: MBaldridge at corestaff.com (Mandy Baldridge) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: kNOWLEDGE ENGINEERS - SAN MATEO CALIFORNIA Message-ID: Knowledge Engineers Location: San Mateo, California Compensation: Junior level $50-60k base, Senior level $75-90k, both to include pre-IPO stock options Travel: 25-50% Our pre-IPO client is positioned to be a major player in the emerging corporate portal market. Their one-of-a-kind taxonomy technology builds and maintains a browsable, searchable directory of concepts. Their solutions offer scalability, flexibility and economical administration which is unique in allowing the categorization of concepts. Their solutions, easily integrated with enterprise infrastructures as part of a powerful, all-in-one service offering, deliver easier access to information that becomes ever more meaningful as new connections are brought to light. Join a dedicated team of the best people you're likely to ever work with. You will be welcomed into a group of some of the nicest people around, with affable, people-oriented management who smooth the path towards success for the team and clear the way for you to personally contribute and grow to your fullest potential. Senior Knowledge Engineer Responsibilities: Creation and maintenance of taxonomies, ontologies, lexica, and thesauri. Ownership of customer relationships regarding customization of text mining and taxonomy building products. Management of others engaged in the same kinds of activities. Required: 3-5 years experience in NLP, cognitive science, library science, or related field. Love of language. Familiarity with Windows NT, Microsoft Office, email, Internet. Experience with taxonomies and other classification systems. Ability to give presentations/demonstrations in front of technical audiences. Intangibles: flexibility, creativity, initiative, listening skills, excited by the potential of the New Economy. Desired: Unix, Emacs, C, SQL, in-depth vertical knowledge of scientific or technical field. For further information or consideration contact: Sandra Fykes TelesecCORESTAFF Recruiting Manager Information Management Division http://www.corestaff.com (301) 962-8604 or (888)815-8538 Fax (301) 949-8729 email sfykes@corestaff.com From MBaldridge at corestaff.com Thu Mar 16 09:51:40 2000 From: MBaldridge at corestaff.com (Mandy Baldridge) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: USER EXPERIENCE MANAGER-CUPERTINO CA Message-ID: Location: Cupertino, CA User Experience Manager Knowledge Engineering Applications Consultants Our client, a venture-funded, pre-IPO company, offers a suite of e-Service solutions that allow dot.com companies to retain customers and build loyalty by improving the online customer experience. Customers experience a personalized dialog that senses their objectives and guides them quickly through to resolve their needs. Our client transforms the e-Service paradigm by enabling an e-commerce site to become a personalized, effective and efficient first point of service for customers, an 'e-Service Portal.' Title: Knowledge Engineering Applications Consultants Location: Cupertino, CA Compensation: $75k-100k base, stock options, full benefits Responsibilities Consult with key customer staff to define requirements Propose and evaluate solutions Model and encode business knowledge of customers (Fortune 100 and dot.com's) Work with customer Subject Matter Experts (SME's) Model taxonomy of client's knowledge base Develop intelligent dialog for client's application Use rule-based language and AI high level languages Contribute to improvement of product Interface with Quality Assurance Desired Experience/skills 5 years in Knowledge Engineering and related fields 1+ years in business (non-academic) settings KE implementation Taxonomy building Knowledge modeling Independent work with SME's On time delivery of solutions Scripting language Perl Windows environment experience Excellent written and verbal communications skills Analytical skills Self-starter, eager to learn, willing to be flexible in an exciting, unstructured start-up company Pluses Experience in high tech or finance industries Experience implementing web applications, KE applications Experience in close customer interface Strong analytical and business skills Travel 40-50% in US Potential for telecommute Education MS in CS or AI, or MLS, or related education and experience For further information or consideration contact: Sandra Fykes TelesecCORESTAFF Recruiting Manager Information Management Division http://www.corestaff.com (301) 962-8604 or (888)815-8538 Fax (301) 949-8729 email sfykes@corestaff.com From ebadeaux at CLSN3244.ebr.lib.la.us Thu Mar 16 09:41:12 2000 From: ebadeaux at CLSN3244.ebr.lib.la.us (Elizabeth Badeaux 225.231-3720) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: digital cameras Message-ID: Good morning all, We are considering purchasing a digital camera for use in taking pictures for our public library's web page. I have begun reading reviews of different ones, but am curious to hear some recommendations both of brands and of various features to look for when purchasing one. I'm not all that familiar with these, and don't want either to pay for features we don't really need nor purchase one that it so "bare bones" that it won't meet our needs. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I'd love to hear from you. 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Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 230 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000316/820b0850/attachment-0001.bin From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Thu Mar 16 11:34:36 2000 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Thomas Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: internal error in Windows Internet extensions Message-ID: <38D10D1C.64B41AC9@anaheim.lib.ca.us> I have two brand new Gateway PCs that I am trying to set up for public access Internet. However, IE and Netscape refuse to connect to any site. IE 4 is giving the message: Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site [name of site] An internal error occurred in the Windows Internet extensions. Netscape 4.5 is giving the massage Netscape is unable to locate the server [name of site] Please check the server name and try again. We have tried several different sites and verified that they do come up on other computers. I have gone over the TCP/IP setting and brought outside help and we cannot figure anything out. One of the currious symptoms is that when we do a tracert www.anaheim.net the PCs in question cannot resolve the address, but when we tracert 209.25.32.100 it completes the trace route just fine. I can also bing by IP but not by name. Has anyone ever seen anything like this before? Thomas Edelblute Anaheim Public Library From atkins at aztec.lib.utk.edu Thu Mar 16 13:09:57 2000 From: atkins at aztec.lib.utk.edu (David Atkins) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: Position: Life Sciences Librarian--Tennessee Message-ID: Announcement of Professional Vacancy March 16, 2000 POSITION: Life Sciences Librarian APPOINTMENT RANK: Assistant or Associate Professor SALARY: Minimum $33,000 for Assistant Professor Minimum $40,000 for Associate Professor AVAILABLE: August 15, 2000 RESPONSIBILITIES: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville (UTK) Libraries seeks an energetic professional to serve as a life sciences subject librarian for reference and collection development. The life sciences librarian contributes to a range of traditional and innovative library services. Responsibilities emphasize outreach to students and faculty through consultation and instruction with particular emphasis on undergraduate biology courses and liaison to the Ecology & Evolutionary Biology and Botany departments. UTK's Biology Division (http://www.bio.utk.edu/) has 82 faculty in four departments; it is one component of a collaborative, multidisciplinary research environment. Cooperative efforts in teaching and research involve personnel from departments on UT's main campus, the College of Agriculture, and the Joint Institute for Biological Sciences run by UTK and Oak Ridge National Laboratory. The life sciences librarian is part of the Reference and Instructional Services Department, reports to the Science and Technology Coordinator, and participates in the work of the department and science subject group. The librarian provides general and subject-specific reference assistance in the main library's highly automated reference environment, (including night and weekend rotation) which includes a government documents reference area and collection. Instruction may take the form of classroom presentations, research consultation appointments, on-site assistance in labs and offices, and could include interaction with students enrolled in distance education programs. Collection development and management responsibilities include selecting, organizing, and assessing materials in all formats; this work is done in cooperation with other subject librarians and with input from faculty in the liaison areas. The life sciences librarian promotes library services, facilitates communication with the campus community about library and information issues, works with library colleagues to coordinate services and implement programs and projects, and serves on library and university committees. REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS: MLS from an ALA-accredited program. Knowledge of major scientific bibliographic databases and life science reference sources in all formats. Evidence of excellent communication and presentation skills and ability to work collegially with all levels of users and staff. Demonstrable service orientation and understanding of library services in a research university. Knowledge of scientific literature and publishing trends. PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS: Academic background in science. Professional experience in science reference, preferably in an academic library. Experience with collection development. Experience creating and maintaining Web resources. Evidence of research or creative achievement. BENEFITS: Librarians at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville have faculty rank and status and are appointed for twelve months. This is a tenure track appointment. Library faculty must meet University requirements for promotion and tenure. Annual leave is accrued at the rate of two days per month and sick leave at the rate of one day per month. Faculty have their choice of a state retirement plan or TIAA/CREF. Non-refundable contributions to either retirement plan are paid for the employee by the University. Group health and life insurance plans are available. Tuition remission is available for all university employees; partial undergraduate tuition remission is available to dependent children and spouses of UT employees. ENVIRONMENT: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, a Carnegie Research Level One institution, enrolls approximately 26,000 students from every state in the United States and approximately 100 other countries. As Tennessee's comprehensive campus, UTK offers more doctoral programs than any other institution in the state, and its faculty attract nearly $80 million annually for sponsored research programs. UTK is one of 27 higher education institutions holding the distinction of being both a land-grant institution and state university. The UTK Libraries, with an annual budget of $10 million, holds 2 million volumes and receives approximately 10,000 current serials. The Libraries system includes the John C. Hodges Library and four branches on the Knoxville campus: Agriculture-Veterinary Medicine, Map, Music, and University Archives and Special Collections. A fifth branch, the Social Work Library, is located in Nashville. Over three hundred persons are employed, including 49 librarians, 8 exempt, 123 non-exempt, and 150 students. UTK Libraries is a member of the Association of Research Libraries, SOLINET, and the Center for Research Libraries. The UTK Libraries offers a Web-based information system and access to a variety of electronic information sources. Additional information about this position and the UTK community is available at http://toltec.lib.utk.edu/~lss/search/lifsci.html APPLICATION PROCEDURE: Send letter of application, a current resume, and the names, addresses, e-mail addresses, and telephone numbers of three recent references to: Jill Keally, Head, Library Support Services, 1015 Volunteer Blvd., Knoxville, TN 37996-1000, fax 423/974-4696. Review of applications will begin April 15, 2000 and continue until the position is filled. The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, does not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, color, religion, national origin, age, disability or veteran status in provision of educational programs and services or employment opportunities and benefits. This policy extends to both employment by and admission to the University. The University does not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, or disability in the education programs and activities pursuant to the requirements of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990. Inquiries and charges of violation concerning Title VI, Title IX, Section 504, ADA or the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) or any of the other above referenced policies should be directed to the Office of Diversity Resources & Educational Services (DRES), 2110 Terrace Avenue, Knoxville, TN 37996-3560, telephone (423)974-2498 (TTY available). Requests for accommodation of a disability should be directed to the ADA Coordinator at the Office of Human Resources Management, 600 Henley Street, Knoxville, TN 37996-4125. From hagena at nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us Thu Mar 16 13:25:05 2000 From: hagena at nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (Hagen Amen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] internal error in Windows Internet extensions In-Reply-To: <38D10D1C.64B41AC9@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Message-ID: Quickly, 'cause I have to run to the next job site, but we had this exact problem with some new Gateway Profile 1 computers. We 'solved' it by installing SP6a. It seemed that it couldn't do DNS queries at all. On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Thomas Edelblute wrote: > I have two brand new Gateway PCs that I am trying to set up for public > access Internet. However, IE and Netscape refuse to connect to any > site. > > IE 4 is giving the message: > Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site [name of site] > An internal error occurred in the Windows Internet extensions. > > Netscape 4.5 is giving the massage > Netscape is unable to locate the server [name of site] > Please check the server name and try again. > > We have tried several different sites and verified that they do come up > on other computers. > > I have gone over the TCP/IP setting and brought outside help and we > cannot figure anything out. > > One of the currious symptoms is that when we do a tracert > www.anaheim.net the PCs in question cannot resolve the address, but when > we tracert 209.25.32.100 it completes the trace route just fine. I can > also bing by IP but not by name. > > Has anyone ever seen anything like this before? > > Thomas Edelblute > Anaheim Public Library > > Hagen Amen Network Analyst Multnomah County Library From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Thu Mar 16 15:33:59 2000 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Thomas Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:42 2005 Subject: internal error in Windows Internet extensions Message-ID: <38D14537.1978F120@anaheim.lib.ca.us> Thanks to all those who tried to help with my DNS problems. The solution turned out to be reinstalling the operating system. Thomas Edelblute Anaheim Public Library From tsmith1 at ohiou.edu Fri Mar 17 07:52:04 2000 From: tsmith1 at ohiou.edu (Tim Smith) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: Position: Reference Librarian/Web Manager--Ohio University Message-ID: REFERENCE LIBRARIAN / WEB MANAGER OHIO UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES DUTIES: Develops, designs, manages, and assesses the Ohio University Libraries web site, working with a co-manager in the Reference Department and a committee comprised of staff from several library departments. Also works on content and format with other library staff. Assists with the integration of web-based resources into library instruction, collection development, and reference services. Performs general reference duties, including reference desk service (some evenings and weekends). Participates in the instructional program, presenting class lectures, demonstrations, workshops, and other orientation activities. Serves as a subject bibliographer for an academic unit, providing leadership in collection development, promotion of information literacy, reference consultation, and other liaison activities. QUALIFICATIONS: ALA-accredited masters in library science; June 2000 graduates acceptable. Working knowledge of HTML; knowledge of electronic and print information tools and resources appropriate to an academic and research audience; knowledge of personal computer applications and uses in libraries. Effective oral and written communication skills, including public speaking and communicating technical information to non-specialists. Aptitude for learning new technologies quickly. Ability to work collaboratively and independently. Strong service orientation. PREFERRED: Experience in web design and other webmaster tasks; providing reference and instruction services in an academic setting. Proficiency in a foreign language. THE SETTING: Ohio University is a public university, designated at Carnegie Research II institution, with approximately 16,200 undergraduate and 2,500 graduate and medical students enrolled on the Athens campus. The University offers 323 undergraduate programs of study, 60 master?s and 20 doctoral programs. Web site: http://www.ohiou.edu. Athens, Ohio, is a small town (population 22,000) in the hills of southern Ohio. It serves as an education, business, and retailing service center for southeastern Ohio, as well as being the county seat. Web site: http://ci.athens.oh.us/Athens/athens.htm THE LIBRARY: Alden Library is the main library facility on the Athens campus; other facilities are departmental reading rooms, a Music/Dance Library, and a remote storage building. The collections number over 2 million volumes and the staff consists of 35 professionals and 72 support staff. The Libraries are an ARL member and a participant in OhioLINK. Web site: http://www.library.ohiou.edu. AVAILABLE: As soon as the search is completed. SALARY/ BENEFITS: $29,800 ? 34,500, commensurate with experience and qualifications. 22 days annual vacation, generous insurance, and Ohio state employee or alternative retirement. TO APPLY: Send letter of application, resume, and the names, addresses, telephone numbers, and email addresses of three current references to: Eileen Theodore-Shusta, Human Resources Coordinator, Alden Library, Ohio University, Athens, OH 45701-2978 (telephone: 740-593-2989; FAX: 740-593-2708; email: theodore@ohiou.edu). The application deadline is April 14, 2000. Ohio University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Melissa Saucier Harrison County Library System Gulfport, MS 39501 From stephen.treger at sdsu.edu Fri Mar 17 11:45:20 2000 From: stephen.treger at sdsu.edu (Stephen Treger) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hide button on taskbar In-Reply-To: <38D24D75.CDA9B74D@harrison.lib.ms.us> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000317084339.01fb3e90@mail.sdsu.edu> You can use programs such as HideIt to remove any visible windows. Or even more drastic, I have a program that "replaces" the Start Button and entire taskbar. A simple key combination releases it, but it hides everything underneath. Not a good solution, but .... At 07:35 AM 3/17/00 -0800, Melissa Saucier wrote: >Hello all, > >We have a program that we want to keep minimized >on our public computers, but there is a button >that will remain on the taskbar. Does anyone know >an easy way of removing this button? So that >patrons can not start the program and/or close it. > >Melissa Saucier >Harrison County Library System >Gulfport, MS 39501 From atkins at aztec.lib.utk.edu Fri Mar 17 12:11:27 2000 From: atkins at aztec.lib.utk.edu (David Atkins) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: Position: Reference Librarian for Agricultural Sciences and Natural Resources--Tennessee Message-ID: Announcement of Professional Vacancy March 3, 2000 POSITION: Reference Librarian for Agricultural Sciences and Natural Resources APPOINTMENT RANK: Assistant or Associate Professor SALARY: Minimum $33,000 for Assistant Professor Minimum $40,000 for Associate Professor AVAILABLE: September 1, 2000 RESPONSIBILITIES: The University of Tennessee, (UT) Libraries seeks an energetic professional to serve as subject librarian for reference and collection development in the Agriculture-Veterinary Medicine Library. The reference librarian contributes to a range of traditional and innovative library services. Responsibilities emphasize outreach to students and faculty through consultation and instruction with particular emphasis on agricultural sciences and natural resources. The Institute of Agriculture includes UT's College of Agricultural Sciences and Natural Resources, the College of Veterinary Medicine, the Extension Service, and Experiment Station. The Institute's units comprise a collaborative, multidisciplinary research environment in which the library plays an integral part through outreach, instruction and liaison. The Reference Librarian for Agricultural Sciences and Natural Resources participates in the work of the branch library and in the library-wide science/technology subject group. The librarian provides general and subject-specific reference assistance in the branch library's highly automated reference environment, which includes government documents. Instruction may take the form of classroom presentations, research consultations, on-site assistance in labs and offices, and may include interaction with students enrolled in distance education programs. Collection development and management responsibilities include selecting, organizing, and assessing materials in all formats; this work is done in cooperation with other subject librarians and with input from faculty in the liaison areas. The reference librarian promotes library services, facilitates communication with the campus community about library and information issues, works with library colleagues to coordinate services and implement programs and projects, and serves on library and university committees. REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS: ALA-accredited master's. Knowledge of major scientific bibliographic databases and science reference sources in all formats. Evidence of excellent communication and presentation skills and ability to work collegially with all levels of users and staff. Demonstrable service orientation and understanding of library services in a research university. Knowledge of scientific literature and publishing trends. PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS: Academic background in science. Professional experience in science reference, preferably in an academic library. Experience with collection development. Experience creating and maintaining Web resources. Evidence of research or creative achievement. BENEFITS: Librarians at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville have faculty rank and status and are appointed for twelve months. This is a tenure track appointment. Library faculty must meet University requirements for promotion and tenure. Annual leave is accrued at the rate of two days per month and sick leave at the rate of one day per month. Faculty have their choice of a state retirement plan or TIAA/CREF. Non-refundable contributions to either retirement plan are paid for the employee by the University. Group health and life insurance plans are available. Tuition remission is available for all university employees; partial undergraduate tuition remission is available to dependent children and spouses of UT employees. ENVIRONMENT: The University of Tennessee, a Carnegie Research Level One institution, enrolls approximately 26,000 students from every state in the United States and approximately 100 other countries. As Tennessee's comprehensive campus, UTK offers more doctoral programs than any other institution in the state, and its faculty attract nearly $80 million annually for sponsored research programs. UT is one of 27 higher education institutions holding the distinction of being both a land-grant institution and state university. The UTK Libraries, with an annual budget of $10 million, holds 2 million volumes and receives approximately 10,000 current serials. The Libraries system includes the John C. Hodges Library and four branches on the Knoxville campus: Agriculture-Veterinary Medicine, Map, Music, and University Archives and Special Collections. A fifth branch, the Social Work Library, is located in Nashville. Over three hundred persons are employed, including 49 librarians, 8 exempt, 123 non-exempt, and 150 students. UTK Libraries is a member of the Association of Research Libraries, SOLINET, and the Center for Research Libraries. The UT Libraries offers a Web-based information system and access to a variety of electronic information sources. The Agriculture-Veterinary Medicine Library is located in the Veterinary Teaching Hospital and serves 15 departments, the Extension Service and the Experiment Station of the Institute of Agriculture. The collection is comprised of 120,000 volumes, and the library is a depository for U.S. government documents from the Departments of Agriculture. Four staff and three librarians offer instruction and research assistance to the campus and community. Additional information about this position and the UTK community is available at http://toltec.lib.utk.edu/~lss/search/agreflibr.html APPLICATION PROCEDURE: Send letter of application, a current resume, and the names, addresses, e-mail addresses, and telephone numbers of three recent references to: Jill Keally, Head, Library Support Services, 1015 Volunteer Blvd., Knoxville, TN 37996-1000, fax 423/974-4696. Review of applications will begin May 15, 2000 and continue until the position is filled. The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, does not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, color, religion, national origin, age, disability or veteran status in provision of educational programs and services or employment opportunities and benefits. This policy extends to both employment by and admission to the University. The University does not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, or disability in the education programs and activities pursuant to the requirements of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990. Inquiries and charges of violation concerning Title VI, Title IX, Section 504, ADA or the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) or any of the other above referenced policies should be directed to the Office of Diversity Resources & Educational Services (DRES), 2110 Terrace Avenue, Knoxville, TN 37996-3560, telephone (423) 974-2498 (TTY available). Requests for accommodation of a disability should be directed to the ADA Coordinator at the Office of Human Resources Management, 600 Henley Street, Knoxville, TN 37996-4125. From msauers at bcr.org Fri Mar 17 12:48:42 2000 From: msauers at bcr.org (Michael Sauers) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: CD-ROM Circulation Message-ID: I am looking for a page/document that discusses the issues involved in a library circulating CD-Rom materials which seems to be against the license agreement that comes with the product. Any and all pointers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Sauers, Internet Trainer Bibliographical Center for Research (BCR) Aurora, CO :: msauers@bcr.org :: http://www.bcr.org/~msauers The WWW Library Directory is @ http://www.webpan.com/msauers/libdir/ Buy books, music or videos online? http://www.dealpilot.com/?partner=1307 "I want to know what good is a Web search engine that returns 324,909,188 'matches' to my key word. That's like saying, 'Good news, we've located the product you're looking for. It's on Earth.'" --W. Bruce Cameron Opinions expressed are my own unless otherwise noted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu Fri Mar 17 13:55:59 2000 From: leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: Newman Library's Virtual Tour In-Reply-To: <200003151237.EAA02614@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000317125559.0139e700@newton.baruch.cuny.edu> I am pleased to announce the availability online of the William and Anita Newman Library's Virtual Tour at: http://newman.baruch.cuny.edu/about/v_tour/ Newman Library's Virtual Tour is available both in Flash and HTML. Versions currently are in English and Spanish; more languages are in the works. LEO -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Leo Robert Klein 17 Lexington Ave, Box H0520 Web Coordinator & New York, NY. 10010 Digital Resources Developer tel: (212) 802-2373 Newman Library/Baruch College fax: (212) 802-2360 http://newman.baruch.cuny.edu email: Leo_Klein@baruch.cuny.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From floyd at coatopa.com Fri Mar 17 13:34:57 2000 From: floyd at coatopa.com (Floyd Ingram) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: digital cameras In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000316115522.0075920c@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: I am now the owner of a Kodak DC290 Digital Camera. It is a great camera! Uses compact flash cards...and has three options for downloading your photos. Take great shots for 8X10. The regular cost is about $1,200 but I bought it online at Egghead for $720...a great saving. ******************************************************************* Floyd Ingram Columbia, South Carolina My Fax: (801) 327-3914 Home My E-mail: My Homepage: "A New Millennium. Same Old Struggle?" ******************************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Jim Barrentine Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 12:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: digital cameras I got an Olympus C-2500L for Christmas and it is fantastic. I am a long time 35mm photographer and this is my first digital camera. Maybe the thing I like best is that the form factor is that of a SLR. I thioink that makes it easier to hold than some of the others. The camera takes both Smart Media and Compact Flash cards, has a 3x optical zoom, 2.5 megapixel, etc. The attached image was take in macro mode (it will actually focus as close as .8 inch) with a resolution that produced a file of about 500K. I re-sampled it with Microsoft Picture It to produce the 39K file you see here. The only down side is the price - about $1500. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000317/3f8c7eb7/attachment.htm From Rible at sou.edu Fri Mar 17 15:11:51 2000 From: Rible at sou.edu (Jim Rible) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] digital cameras Message-ID: We have the Sony Mavica MVC-FD91. It uses diskettes as the "film" and saves images at varying resolutions. It has zoom, steady shot, and many other features. It saves in both jpg and bmp formats. While the jpg is a lossy format, it serves our purposes very well. You can take a picture, pop out the diskette, and put it on the web in minutes. Jim Rible >>> "Elizabeth Badeaux 225.231-3720" 03/16/00 07:06AM >>> Good morning all, We are considering purchasing a digital camera for use in taking pictures for our public library's web page. I have begun reading reviews of different ones, but am curious to hear some recommendations both of brands and of various features to look for when purchasing one. I'm not all that familiar with these, and don't want either to pay for features we don't really need nor purchase one that it so "bare bones" that it won't meet our needs. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I'd love to hear from you. Thanks so much. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Badeaux Voice: 225-231-3720 Librarian, Computer Division Fax: 225-231-3788 East Baton Rouge Parish Library E-mail: ebadeaux@ebr.lib.la.us 7711 Goodwood Blvd. Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70806 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri Mar 17 15:52:29 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: CGI file uploads Message-ID: <005d01bf9052$b8692600$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> W4L-- Does anyone have, or can anyone point me to, a good list of browsers that do *not* support file uploads via '' within '

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Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From stbowers at lj.cahners.com Fri Mar 17 16:51:04 2000 From: stbowers at lj.cahners.com (Bowers, Stacey (Cahners-NYC)) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: THIS WEEK ON LJDIGITAL, 3/20/00 --> Message-ID: THIS WEEK ON LJDIGITAL, 3/20/00 --> NEWS Second Chance Works for $8M Library Bond in Camas, WA http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13979.asp Ann Arbor PL Raises Millage, Ex-Finance Director Investigated http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13978.asp Greenville Library Director Says He Was Scapegoat http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13977.asp Savannah Director Says Library Situation Stabilizing http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13976.asp Critics Cite Wrong Blocks; Draw Suit of Filter Maker http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13975.asp GLAAD Says Filters Hurt Gays & Lesbians http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13974.asp NJ, FL, PA Propose Library Internet Bills http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13973.asp ALA Honors Ex-Commerce Official For "Digital Divide" Report http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13972.asp Hollywood Studio Library Closes, Causing Outcry http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13971.asp Virginia First State to Pass UCITA Law http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13970.asp Philanthropist Plans Free Web University http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13969.asp New Specialized Search Engine Coming http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13968.asp Jefferson's Library Reassembled To Honor LC's Bicentennial http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13967.asp SUNY Rank Badly on ARL List http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000320_13966.asp INFOTECH Court Denies Appeal on E-Data http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000320_13964.asp USAF Academy Flies with Sirsi http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000320_13963.asp LC Joins Spanish Library for Project http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000320_13962.asp USCB Librarian Offers Web Search Help http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000320_13961.asp HOT PICKS Don't the Moon Look Lonesome is "a stylish love story told against the backdrop of the New York jazz scene." http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/hotpicks/hotpicksindex.asp EDITORIAL Second in Command Many who make the library great don't get credit for it http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/views/editorial/editorialindex.asp BOOK NEWS NBCC Awards Presented in New York http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000320_13956.asp King's Cyberbook A Server Smasher http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000320_13955.asp Pen/Faulkner Nominees Announced http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000320_13954.asp Children's Author Barbara Cooney Dies at 83 http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000320_13953.asp CLASSIC RETURNS A look at New York City in pre-Colonial times. http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/classicreturns/classicreturnsindex.a sp *************************** Stacey Bowers Producer LJ Digital http://www.ljdigital.com stbowers@lj.cahners.com 212.337.7054 *************************** From cchick at netcom.com Fri Mar 17 18:35:55 2000 From: cchick at netcom.com (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:43 2005 Subject: LLRX.com update for March 15, 2000 Message-ID: LLRX.com (http://www.llrx.com) is the free Web journal providing current, comprehensive articles and resources for legal professionals and law librarians on research, information technology, digital legislation, cybernews, Web links for researchers, software reviews, and presentation/marketing issues, since 1996. Editors: Sabrina I. Pacifici & Cindy L. Chick. ---------------------------------------------------------------- New on LLRX.com, March 15, 2000 How to Start an Urban Legend: the Reporting of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry, Inc. T.R. Halvorson delves into the facts of this provocative case concerning Web site copyright infringement, as well as the manner in which mainstream and electronic press reaction to the story contributed to major distortions of the issues involved. An Overview of New Zealand Law Law Librarian, lawyer and author Margaret Greville provides an article rich in content and links to her country's legal system, with topics including primary legal materials, the legal profession, legal news sources and legal texts. CongressLine: States Gear Up to Combat Unsolicited Electronic E-Mail Carol M. Morrissey reviews the status of anti-spam legislation, providing links to pending and enacted bills from 15 states. Notes from the Technology Trenches In this month's column, Roger Skalbeck focuses on full-text docket searching and criminal docket research from MarketSpan, and SurfSaver 2.0 from askSam. Reference from Coast to Coast: Locating Tax Information - Taxsites.com Susan Retzer reviews an alternative to the IRS Web site which offers user-friendly access to content, including links to Private Letter Rulings and state/local tax information. The Internet Roundtable #7: A Continuing Discussion of Law Firm Marketing On the Internet Jerry Lawson, Dennis Kennedy and Brenda Howard suggest ways to get your firm's Web site listed on search engines. Legal Research 2000: Managing Web Resources Nancy Green's PowerPoint presentation, from the Glasser LegalWorks conference in San Francisco, offers an expert's perspective on how to effectively evaluate and use the plethora of legal resources available on the Web. Latest Links Margaret Berkland's suggested resources include: a site that allows users to personalize portals by adding their own content; access to the largest scientific dictionary ever compiled on the Web; DOJ's Antitrust Division site that includes the full-text of cases, briefs, business reviews, etc.; a searchable database of California ballot propositions from 1911 to present; and a site that provides access to over 250,000 obituaries from more than 1,000 newspapers. Newstand, Breaking News, CongressLine Federal, State & Local News Are e-mail disclaimers valid?; Network Solutions is sued; Washington state judge declares anti-junk mail law unconstitutional; another change in top management at Lexis-Nexis; Google search engine enhancements; how corporations are effectively using Web filtering applications; a new type of domain search engine from Clickey; Virginia is the first state to enact controversial UCITA legislation to enforce software copyrights and licenses; New York State's proposed privacy laws; the bipartisan Privacy Commission picks up momentum; the new "open content" Web encyclopedia, and lots more! ********************************************************************* New Product Announcement from West Group! The Standard and Deluxe Editions of Black's Law Dictionary 7th are now available for purchase. Buy directly online at http://store.westgroup.com From spober at manhattan.edu Sat Mar 18 16:59:53 2000 From: spober at manhattan.edu (Stacy Pober) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:44 2005 Subject: Digital cameras References: <200003181708.JAA01405@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <38D3FC59.13C1@manhattan.edu> My first digital camera was the Barbie camera. I figured, hey, for $50 bucks, how bad could it be? Answer: unusably bad. Lower than low resolution. However, I recently bought a Nikon Coolpix 950 for under $500 at accompany.com. Another one of those companies that seems to be willing to sell at a loss with an eye to pumping up their sales volume before their IPO. Word of mouth on them is very good on the camera groups, and if the product you want is there the prices are close to unbeatable. They don't carry every model at every time, but rotate different things through their "buy cycles". Stacy Pober Information Alchemist Manhattan College Libraries spober@manhattan.edu http://www.manhattan.edu/library/ From verho at fla.fi Mon Mar 20 06:10:29 2000 From: verho at fla.fi (Seppo Verho) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:45 2005 Subject: The Finnish Library Journal March 2000 Message-ID: <200003201109.NAA02412@katto.kaapeli.fi> Headlines from the March 2000 issue of the Finnish Library Journal ( http://www.kaapeli.fi/~fla/flj/ ): - New Library Policy - New Joint Computer System for Research Libraries and Others - Library Education Reform Kirjastolehti (The Finnish Library Journal) is the professional journal for Finnish library people, the consumer journal for library users and the news journal that keeps decision makers up to date. It offers a neat way of keeping up with the action on the Finnish library scene. Seppo Verho The Finnish Library Journal email: verho@fla.fi From tseitz at tscpl.lib.ks.us Mon Mar 20 11:26:47 2000 From: tseitz at tscpl.lib.ks.us (Tracy Seitz) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:45 2005 Subject: [Web4Lib Position] Web Support Specialist/Webmaster For Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library, Topeka, Kansas Message-ID: The following is an annoucment for a professional vacany March 20, 2000 WEB SUPPORT SPECIALIST/WEBMASTER The Topeka and Shawnee County Public Library is seeking applications for an aggressive and creative WEB SUPPORT SPECIALIST/WEBMASTER. This position will be available June 1, 2000. The Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library is ever growing and ever changing. The employees at the Library are experiencing exciting times with new construction and new job opportunities. If you are looking to make a change and would like to work at a library full of opportunity and excitement, this is the place for you. The Library is committed to making a difference in the community. The Library serves a population of 160,000 with a total budget of $7 million; a staff of 160 and over 85,000 registered borrowers. August 1996, the voters of Shawnee Co. approved a $23M bond issue to expand the present library. This will expand the current 65,000-sq. ft. facility to 168,000 sq. ft. Internationally known architect, Michael Graves, is the design consultant for the project that will be completed in 2001. Recently, the Library opened a Vision 2000 technology-training center to provide training to associates and patrons. Join a team of four Automation staff to maintain over 150 microcomputers; Dynix automated library system, web server and various specialized servers. The Library is currently moving aggressively to expand technology and expects to have over 350 computers by the end of 2002. The Web Support Specialist/Webmaster reports to the Automation Manager. The essential job functions include: develop and maintain library World Wide Web services including the public web site in cooperation with library public relations staff, Intranet web site, and library catalog web interface; develop and implement a regular program to test usability and effectiveness of library?s web presence; coordinate regular updates to the content of the library?s web site with other library staff; troubleshoot hardware or software related problems; maintain the overall network, Internet accessibility, Web page design and implementation; select software and hardware as authorized; assist in installation and repair of hardware and software; train staff in the effective use of appropriate technology with special emphasis on electronic mail, the Internet, and Web page design; provide assistance to staff regarding technology-related problems, questions, and projects; frequent interaction with library staff and patrons is required. The required/desired qualifications include: Bachelor?s Degree in a related field from an accredited college or university and two years of web development experience; Master of Library Science and previous library experience preferred; knowledge of and experience with HTML, PERL, JAVA scripting and web development tools required; knowledge of UNIX, Windows NT, Web PAC and IIS desired; experience with web site usability testing and graphic design desired. This position requires excellent communication, organizational, and analytical skills. The individual must have the ability to be flexible and work independently. Strong service orientation required. Topeka, the Capitol City of Kansas, is located on I-70 linking Kansas City (70 miles east), the University of Kansas-Lawrence (20 miles east), Washburn University-Topeka and Kansas State University-Manhattan (50 miles west). Topeka has a stable economy and very good housing at affordable costs. Salary starts at $36,400. Excellent benefits, including BCBS health/dental at no cost to employee ($50/mo for family plan), retirement and cafeteria plan, with 22 days vacation and 12 days sick leave. Please submit an application with resume and three professional references to Human Resources, Topeka & Shawnee County Public Library, 1515 SW 10th, Topeka, KS 66604-1374. 231-0518. Visit our web site at http://www.tscpl.org EOE (First review of applications received is 4/14/2000. Applications accepted until position is filled.) From landauer at argus-inc.com Mon Mar 20 16:15:00 2000 From: landauer at argus-inc.com (Susan Landauer) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:45 2005 Subject: Job posting Message-ID: <200003202115.QAA04887@argus-inc.com> Argus Associates has two information architect positions available and position description is attatched. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IA position desc.doc Type: application/msword Size: 15360 bytes Desc: Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000320/0be62cac/IApositiondesc.doc From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Mar 20 16:50:45 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:45 2005 Subject: Web4Lib and attachments Message-ID: <00a301bf92b6$97d70ea0$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Speaking only for myself, I'm a little bothered by the growing readiness of list subscribers to post file attachments to Web4Lib. MIME attachments have at least three problems on a public list like this: Not all members of the W4L community have MIME-aware mail clients. Sending them attachments, especially non-text attachments only gives them gibberish. (They'll also have to wade through a lot of garbage just to read a post in HTML-- plaintext is the lingua franca). The size of any posting coming in to W4L has to be multiplied by over 3000 to get the size of the outgoing mail from sunsite.berkeley.edu. Any large post puts a stress on that machine that is more than our gracious hosts signed on for. Some MIME types are capable of carrying viruses, Trojan horses, or other undesirable code inside them. This is obviously true of executable files, but we shouldn't forget Melissa and her ilk that hide inside Word and other Office file types. There is a very small number of correspondents from whom I will open Word files attached to e-mail. From anyone else, they get deleted unopened, which is just a waste of time and bandwidth for everyone involved. On other lists and newsgroups I participate in, the etiquette is not to post attachments (especially binaries, and doubly especially executables). We're all web professionals here; if you need people to see a file, I recommend putting it on a web server and posting the URL. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From lwhyman at pacbell.net Mon Mar 20 17:38:05 2000 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:45 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web4Lib and attachments Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000320143805.006afbe8@pacbell.net> At 01:53 PM 3/20/00 -0800, you wrote: >Speaking only for myself, I'm a little bothered by the growing readiness >of list subscribers to post file attachments to Web4Lib. MIME attachments >have at least three problems on a public list like this: > > Not all members of the W4L community have MIME-aware > mail clients. Sending them attachments, especially non-text > attachments only gives them gibberish. (They'll also have to > wade through a lot of garbage just to read a post in HTML-- > plaintext is the lingua franca). > I definitely agree. If somebody wants more info, deal directly with each other. I'm still trying to figure out how to stop all those little email business cards which get really annoying when you receive hundreds of emails a day. Don't even get me started on the chain letters, amusing mpegs, and the like! **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From tk at kent.edu Tue Mar 21 10:39:42 2000 From: tk at kent.edu (Tom Klingler) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:46 2005 Subject: Dean of Libraries and Media Services: Kent State University Message-ID: ANNOUNCEMENT Dean of Libraries and Media Services Kent State University Kent State University invites applications and nominations for the position of Dean of Libraries & Media Services (LMS) with the expectation of a July 1, 2000 appointment. Kent State University is a Carnegie Research II institution offering nearly 170 baccalaureate majors, 37 master's programs, and 20 areas of doctoral study. The Dean is the chief administrative and academic officer for Kent State University's integrated eight-campus Libraries and Media Services system which serves urban, suburban, and rural communities. With an extensive reach throughout Northeast Ohio, Kent State University is strategically located 45 minutes from Cleveland and 2 hours from Columbus and Pittsburgh. Kent State University reflects the cultural and commercial vitality of the region and is poised to meet the challenges of the 21st century. The Libraries include a Main Library, six departmental libraries on the Kent campus, and seven regional campus libraries. The Libraries are a member of the Association of Research Libraries with collections of more than 2 million books and periodicals, 1 million microforms, a rich array of citation and full-text databases, and extensive collections of other media. Specialized collections serve Kent's students and faculty as well as a national and global scholarly community. The Libraries are a founding member of OCLC and OhioLINK. Libraries and Media Services are committed to the goals of student success and retention as demonstrated by active, university-wide instructional programming and support. The University has made large investments in network and computing technologies in the past three years. Recent technology initiatives include an electronic reserves program, beta testing of Innovative Interfaces Advanced Keyword (AltaVista) Searching module, and extensive use of RLG's Ariel document delivery software. Media Services includes instructional graphics, video production, classroom technology, a student multimedia studio, and a significant media collection. The Dean coordinates library services and collection management, advises executive officers on budgetary and service issues, supports local implementation of information technology initiatives and OhioLINK consortial efforts, serves as an advocate to external constituencies, and directs external fund-raising and grant initiatives. The successful candidate will supervise 22 tenure-track librarians, 31 administrative contract employees, and 48 classified staff. The Dean oversees a budget of more than 8 million dollars, reports directly to the Provost, and is a member of the deans' council. Because Kent State is firmly committed to the strategic development of its academic, electronic, multimedia, and human resources, the Dean must possess a vision of the future for Libraries and Media Services and strong leadership abilities in academic, management, and development areas. As an administrator, the Dean will make constructive contributions to the further development and implementation of the University's strategic plan and will affirm Kent State's position as an essential, dynamic resource for the State of Ohio and beyond. Applicants must hold a master's degree from an accredited American Library Association program. An additional advanced degree at the master's or doctoral level is strongly preferred. The successful candidate will have a scholarly record appropriate for appointment as a tenured full professor, significant administrative experience managing a complex research library, and knowledge of developments in information technology. The candidate will demonstrate a commitment to diversity, consensus building, and collegial processes. Salary is competitive and commensurate with qualifications and experience. The expected appointment date is July 1, 2000. Review of applications will begin no earlier than Feb.22, 2000, and will continue until the position is filled. Applicants should send a letter highlighting qualifications for this position, resume, and the names, phone numbers, and e-mail addresses of three or more references to: Dr. Diedre L. Badejo, Chair Search Committee for Dean of Libraries and Media Services Office of the Provost Kent State University Kent, OH 44242-0001 For more information, visit http://www.library.kent.edu/planning/dean/ Kent State University supports equal opportunity in education and employment. ---------------------------------------- Tom Klingler Head of Systems Libraries & Media Services Kent State University Kent, OH. U.S.A. 44242-0001 330-890-0067 (pager/voicemail) 330-672-2962 (x. 18) 330-672-4811 (fax) tk@kent.edu -------------------------------------------------------------- A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station... --Steven Wright -------------------------------------------------------------- From rlaperriere at tamiu.edu Tue Mar 21 11:44:34 2000 From: rlaperriere at tamiu.edu (Renee J. LaPerriere) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:46 2005 Subject: Position announcement--Texas A&M International University, Laredo, TX Message-ID: <4.3.0.20000321103645.00a886f0@tamiu.edu> Attached is a position announcement for an Automation librarian, Texas A&M International University in Laredo, TX. Thanks, Renee -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: autoad.wpd Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4295 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000321/d5127cbf/autoad.obj -------------- next part -------------- >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< Renee J. LaPerriere de Gutierrez Reference/Special Collections Librarian rlaperriere@tamiu.edu http://www.tamiu.edu/~rlaperriere/ Texas A&M International University Killam Library #308 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041-1900 Phone:(956)326-2404 >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< >>><<< From schnell.9 at osu.edu Tue Mar 21 13:03:03 2000 From: schnell.9 at osu.edu (Eric Schnell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:47 2005 Subject: Prospero Update and ALERT Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000321124546.00a7b038@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> Prospero version 1.34 was released on 03 / 17 / 00. IMPORTANT: Versions prior to 1.33 contained in the file "getdoc.pl" a potentially serious security threat. Malicious Web users could submit a modified document request to "getdoc.pl" that could provide the Web user with the contents of important files or even provide them will local shell access if the script is running on a system that provides such access. WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND updating to version 1.34 URL: http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/prospero/ Features - Can be "detached" from Ariel. Eliminates Ariel "tabs" - Built-in support for TWAIN. Allows for scanning directly into Prospero - User database can be disabled. This allows for use of local authentication systems (ie. Kerberos) - Converts a single page number or a range of page numbers from an Ariel document to individual PDFs. This is useful for removing the invoice that sometimes comes with an Ariel document or when several documents come in a single Ariel transmission - Allows import from a PDF/TIFF and place on the Web server. TIFFS must be monochrome in format and either must be uncompressed or compressed using a CCITT Group 3/4 Fax compression scheme - Utilizes a built-in custom Ariel TIFF-PDF converter - Automatically generates a PIN number for secure access (when user database is used) - Automatically sends an auto alert email to the requesting patron - Email addresses can be selected from a user database or entered manually - Patron interface lists each document by a textual link, number of pages, file size, date posted, and the number of time viewed. - Documents can be deleted by the patron or by the server either by times viewed or days on server. Eric Schnell Assistant Professor Head, Information Technology Services Prior Health Sciences Library The Ohio State University schnell.9@osu.edu / 614-292-4870 http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/eric.html From Caryn.Wesner at uspto.gov Tue Mar 21 13:05:14 2000 From: Caryn.Wesner at uspto.gov (Wesner-Early, Caryn) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:47 2005 Subject: Web4Lib and attachments Message-ID: <785CC105CEACD3118DE4002048400FA96C1295@uspto-is-107.uspto.gov> List Members - "Thomas Dowling" wrote: Speaking only for myself, I'm a little bothered by the growing readiness of list subscribers to post file attachments to Web4Lib. MIME attachments have at least three problems on a public list like this: Another problem applies to people on the Digest mode. When a MIME or HTML attachment is included, this is what we see: > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEyBIDAAAAQAAAAABOz/WwIL8BQAAAAABupA44BL8B > QAAAAAAsAbpej78BAwAAAAEAAAADAAAAPAIAAAMAAAC/DAAAAwAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > /v8AAAQKAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAAAALVzdWcLhsQk5cIACss+a4wAAAA > vAAAAAcAAAABAAAAQAAAAA8AAABIAAAABQAAAGwAAAAGAAAAdAAAAAsAAAB8AAAA > EAAAAIQAAAAMAAAAjAAAAAIAAADkBAAAHgAAABoAAABEZWxsIENvbXB1dGVyIENv > cnBvcmF0aW9uAEMAAwAAABsAAAADAAAABgAAAAsAAAAAAAAACwAAAAAAAAAMEAAA > AgAAAB4AAAAWAAAASW5mb3JtYXRpb24gQXJjaGl0ZWN0AAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > --=PMail:=_0005@@Fq0gM2C6fpBOOKkb2Rdx-- > There are pages and pages of this for each attachment. I don't know what percentage of people are on the Digest, but if there are very many, people posting messages might want to take this into account. Caryn S. Wesner-Early, MSLS Reference Librarian Main Scientific and Technical Information Center U.S. Patent and Trademark Office Phone: (703) 308-3507; Fax: (703) 308-1000 caryn.wesner@uspto.gov From walterg at yorku.ca Tue Mar 21 13:24:19 2000 From: walterg at yorku.ca (Walter W. Giesbrecht) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Web4Lib and attachments References: <785CC105CEACD3118DE4002048400FA96C1295@uspto-is-107.uspto.gov> Message-ID: <38D7BE53.D5D365DB@yorku.ca> Of course, the best way to handle the *occasional* need to make formatted documents/files available is to put them on a web server, and simply post the URL. -- Walter Giesbrecht walterg@yorku.ca Data Librarian (416) 736-2100 ext. 77551 York University 113Y SSB ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Librarians are the secret masters of the world. They control information. Don't ever piss one off." -- Spider Robinson From mmhung at hknet.com Tue Mar 21 17:42:10 2000 From: mmhung at hknet.com (Michael Ming, Hung) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:47 2005 Subject: interdisciplinary work Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000322064210.00802730@hknet.com> Wonder if LC or DDC have instruction on how to handle interdiscipline work? Or this is a general practise, documented in AACR2 or ISBD? *************************************************************************** michael hung ICQ=6638008 SKH Bishop Mok Sau Tseng Secondary School, Librarian HK Professional Teachers' Union, Teacher-librarians' Group, Chairman Jesus Christ, is the same Yesterday and Today and Forever. ~Hebrew 13:8 Homepage = http://www.school.net.hk/~mmhung/ michael email: mmhung@school.net.hk [or] mmhung@hknet.com ida email: idachan2@hknet.com ida & michael Hung *************************************************************************** From lwhyman at pacbell.net Tue Mar 21 17:20:19 2000 From: lwhyman at pacbell.net (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Web4Lib and attachments Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000321142019.00696e10@pacbell.net> At 10:25 AM 3/21/00 -0800, you wrote: >Of course, the best way to handle the *occasional* need to make >formatted documents/files available is to put them on a web >server, and simply post the URL. > Yes sirree! I had a document that I wanted to distribute which was over 3000K. I dropped it into Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ($85) and it compressed to just over 700K. I posted it, it looks fantastic, and I am very happy. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed Mar 22 09:00:32 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: Apache config question Message-ID: <01be01bf9407$16c870e0$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Has anyone observed anything like this in Apache? We have a number of IP ranges for which we need to allow access, but with a specific address or addresses that we need to deny (something like a FreeNet or a proxy that's open to users we don't allow, etc.). For years, we have had something like this in our Apache config files: order deny, allow deny from all allow from 150.134. deny from 150.134.50.5 This would allow access to Youngstown State U, but keep out the Youngstown FreeNet. Apparently, sometime between Apache 1.3.3 and 1.3.9, this stopped working--or at least, similar configurations on different servers running those versions don't keep out the FreeNet IP. Has anyone else observed this? And if so, did you find a workaround? [Apache is great in so many ways, but it really is frustrating how many tiny little things change from one version to the next, from the location of the httpd executable to the default Options for directories.] Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From sherming at worthington.lib.oh.us Wed Mar 22 09:31:04 2000 From: sherming at worthington.lib.oh.us (Steve Herminghausen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: HTML help Message-ID: <8219E51779D7D311AF8B00805FA64FB201B9D9@NWL_WOR> I created a "Harry Potter Jeopardy" type game for our library using HTML. The idea was simple enough for a single use. Start out with a table with the categories, etc. that looks like the Jeopardy screen. Click on "Hogwarts for 200" which is a link to the page with the "answer" for that square. People give the response in the form of a question. Click on a back button, and you return to the main Jeopardy board which now does not display "200" because the visited link color is set to the same color as the background. This works great for a single use, but if somebody wanted to play the game twice they'd have to clear their history of visiting the "potter" site. We're considering posting a version of this game on our website, but I need suggestions on the multiple use/visited link site problem. I'm thinking that I'll probably have to do some JavaScript work to get what I want (links to visited questions aren't visible anymore during the session the game is played, or history of visited links could be cleared easily without having to explain to people how to clear the history), but I'm not sure where to start. Any suggestions? Consider me new to but willing to learn JavaScript. Steve Herminghausen Reference Librarian Northwest Library 2280 Hard Rd. Columbus, OH 43235 From Carolyne.Sidey at crt.xerox.com Wed Mar 22 09:44:59 2000 From: Carolyne.Sidey at crt.xerox.com (Sidey, Carolyne L) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: FW: [WEB4LIB] RE: Web4Lib and attachments Message-ID: <73A1FDE7DE40D11193D000805F15150B04D19DD2@xrccntsv3.xrcc.xerox.com> A web server would be great, but I am inside a firewall and do not have easy access to a server where the "outside world" has access. ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Carolyne Sidey, BASc, MLIS, P.Eng. Manager, XRCC Library Xerox Research Centre of Canada * Outside (905) 823-7091 ext 302 * Fax (905) 822-7022 * Carolyne.Sidey@crt.xerox.com -----Original Message----- From: Linda Woods Hyman [mailto:lwhyman@pacbell.net] Sent: 21 March 2000 17:54 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Web4Lib and attachments At 10:25 AM 3/21/00 -0800, you wrote: >Of course, the best way to handle the *occasional* need to make >formatted documents/files available is to put them on a web >server, and simply post the URL. > Yes sirree! I had a document that I wanted to distribute which was over 3000K. I dropped it into Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ($85) and it compressed to just over 700K. I posted it, it looks fantastic, and I am very happy. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman, MLS., MA. Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lwhyman@pacbell.net From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed Mar 22 09:59:20 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] FW: RE: Web4Lib and attachments References: <73A1FDE7DE40D11193D000805F15150B04D19DD2@xrccntsv3.xrcc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <03bb01bf940f$44b1da70$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > > > A web server would be great, but I am inside a firewall and do not have easy > access to a server where the "outside world" has access. > Understood, but this is an issue that really lies between you and your firewall administrators. Surely your organization didn't put up a firewall without anticipating the need to accomodate occasional requests to post a document on a public web server? Thomas ("Nah, they'd never do THAT") Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From cayz at lib.de.us Wed Mar 22 12:02:20 2000 From: cayz at lib.de.us (James Cayz) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Apache config question In-Reply-To: <01be01bf9407$16c870e0$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: Thomas and group. The order of the allow / deny list in apache is irrelevant. The Order directive says which to evaluate first (Allows or Denys). It is also important to note that EVERY statement is evaluated, no "dropout on match". From http://{apache-server-name}/ApacheManual/mod/mod_access.html#order - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The order directive controls the order in which allow and deny directives are evaluated. Ordering is one of deny,allow the deny directives are evaluated before the allow directives. (The initial state is OK.) allow,deny the allow directives are evaluated before the deny directives. (The initial state is FORBIDDEN.) mutual-failure Only those hosts which appear on the allow list and do not appear on the deny list are granted access. (The initial state is irrelevant.) Keywords may only be separated by a comma; no whitespace is allowed between them. Note that in all cases every allow and deny statement is evaluated, there is no "short-circuiting". Example: order deny,allow deny from all allow from .ncsa.uiuc.edu Hosts in the ncsa.uiuc.edu domain are allowed access; all other hosts are denied access. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - So, in your case, the default is OK, and the "denys" are evaluated first, namely your deny all and deny specific IP address. THEN, the allow is done, which does all for the IP range, basically invalidating the previous deny. I think you want to change the order to "order allow, deny", and remove the deny all. That should make the "doughnut" shaped area you want. I don't know when it was changed. I'm running 1.3.X . Hope this helps. James Cayz +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James Cayz # cayz@lib.de.us # DelAWARE homepage: http://www.lib.de.us | | Network Processing Administrator # 302-739-4748 x130 # Fax 302-739-6948 | | Delaware Division of Libraries # 43 S. DuPont Hwy / Dover, DE 19901-7430 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Thomas Dowling wrote: >Has anyone observed anything like this in Apache? We have a number of IP >ranges for which we need to allow access, but with a specific address or >addresses that we need to deny (something like a FreeNet or a proxy that's >open to users we don't allow, etc.). For years, we have had something >like this in our Apache config files: > > > > order deny, allow > deny from all > allow from 150.134. > deny from 150.134.50.5 > > > >This would allow access to Youngstown State U, but keep out the Youngstown >FreeNet. > >Apparently, sometime between Apache 1.3.3 and 1.3.9, this stopped >working--or at least, similar configurations on different servers running >those versions don't keep out the FreeNet IP. Has anyone else observed >this? And if so, did you find a workaround? > >[Apache is great in so many ways, but it really is frustrating how many >tiny little things change from one version to the next, from the location >of the httpd executable to the default Options for directories.] > >Thomas Dowling >OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network >tdowling@ohiolink.edu > > From wcj1 at cornell.edu Wed Mar 22 12:37:26 2000 From: wcj1 at cornell.edu (Bill Jenkins) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML help In-Reply-To: <8219E51779D7D311AF8B00805FA64FB201B9D9@NWL_WOR> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000322112158.00ab5760@mail.smu.edu> At 06:33 AM 03/22/2000 -0800, Steve Herminghausen wrote: >I'm thinking >that I'll probably have to do some JavaScript work to get what I want (links >to visited questions aren't visible anymore during the session the game is >played, or history of visited links could be cleared easily without having >to explain to people how to clear the history), but I'm not sure where to >start. Any suggestions? Consider me new to but willing to learn >JavaScript. I would suggest using styles to declare the color of the links and visited links, or even simpler, state these in the body tag: The above is black text with red links before you click (LINK) and after you Visit the link (VLINK) and blue links as you click/Activate the link (ALINK). BillJ From afranklin at willkie.com Wed Mar 22 13:04:38 2000 From: afranklin at willkie.com (Franklin, Alethia) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: HTML Help Message-ID: <76DCE5566DE2D311BB5F0008C7E670E61ACE65@NYEXCH01> I use this site to find a lot of javascripts tricks, it is very helpful. http://javascript.internet.com/. There is also a good javascript tutorial at http://www.webreference.com/js/. Hope this helps. Alethia Franklin Library Systems Administrator Willkie Farr & Gallagher From burk at unb.ca Wed Mar 22 13:30:42 2000 From: burk at unb.ca (Alan Burk) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: Announcement - Summer Institute 2000 - Creating Electronic Texts and Images Message-ID: This message has been cross-posted; please excuse any duplication. Alan Burk Electronic Text Centre at the University of New Brunswick Libraries ******************************************************************* Announcing the Fourth Summer Institute at the University of New Brunswick / Fredericton / New Brunswick / Canada http://www.hil.unb.ca/Texts/SGML_course/Aug2000/ ************************************************************* Creating Electronic Texts and Images -- a practical "hands-on" exploration of the research, preservation and pedagogical uses of electronic texts and images in the humanities. DATES: August 20 - 25, 2000 INSTRUCTOR: David Seaman, University of Virginia PLACE: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Sponsored by the Electronic Text Centre at the University of New Brunswick Libraries and the Department of Archives and Special Collections COURSE DESCRIPTION: The course will centre around the creation of a set of electronic texts and digital images. Topics to be covered include: ? SGML tagging and conversion ? Using the Text Encoding Initiative Guidelines ? The basics of archival imaging ? The form and implications of XML ? Publishing SGML on the World Wide Web ? EAD - Encoded Archival Descriptions The course is designed primarily for librarians and archivists who are planning to develop electronic text and imaging projects, for scholars who are creating electronic texts as part of their teaching and research, and for publishers who are looking to move publications to the Web. Course participants will create an electronic version of a selection of Canadian literary letters from the University of New Brunswick's Archives and Special Collections. They will also encode the letters with TEI/SGML tagging, tag an EAD finding aid and explore issues in creating digital images. COURSE PREREQUISITES:This year's institute presupposes that participants have some experience with the Web and an elementary understanding of HTML. FACILITIES: The course will be held in the Instructional Technology Learning Centre (ITLC) in the Harriet Irving Library on the UNB campus. This state-of-the-art lab facility has a Windows 98 PC for each participant and a high end digital projection system. The facility is air conditioned. REGISTRATION FEES / HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS: Registration WILL BE LIMITED to 20. The tuition ($800 Canadian dollars) will include all course fees for the Institute, nutritional breaks, and lunches. Tuition does not include cost of accommodations. In addition, the week-long institute will include a number of special social events. A reception and tour of the newly renovated Old Government House on Sunday August 20th, from 3:00 - 6:00 will give participants a chance to explore and be introduced to one of the oldest and most historic sites in Fredericton. Located on the bank of the St. John River, this excursion will also give those in attendance an opportunity to see one of the most picturesque sections of downtown Fredericton. Also, a steak and lobster barbeque on Wednesday will be open to those in the class. An additional charge will apply to some of the Institute's special events. Please check our webpage for details: http://www.hil.unb.ca/Texts/SGML_course/Aug2000/ The Lord Beaverbrook Hotel in downtown Fredericton is offering special room rates at: $85.00 + tax (Canadian) Single Room $91.00 + tax (Canadian) Double Room Course participants will be responsible for making their own reservations. Lord Beaverbrook Hotel: Tel. 506-455-3371 When booking rooms, please ask for block reserved under Harriet Irving Library to receive special rates. RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE BY JULY 21 TO ENSURE AVAILABILITY AND SPECIAL RATE. All blocked rooms will be released after this date. Information about other accommodations is available at the New Brunswick Tourism accommodation webpage: http://www.cybersmith.net/nbtour/ FURTHER INFORMATION: You may also obtain further information by contacting Karen Maguire (kmaguire@unb.ca or 506-453-4740). Information on prior institutes, including comments from participants, is available at: http://ultratext.hil.unb.ca/Texts/other.htm ***************************************************** Registration Form Note: You can use our Web Registration Form located at: http://ultratext.hil.unb.ca/Texts/SGML_course/Aug2000/register.html or fill out our email version: Introduction To Electronic Texts and Images August 20th to 25th, 2000 Name:________________________________ Organization/Title:____________________________________ In the space below, briefly outline your reasons for taking this course and describe projects which will utilize the skills you learn in this course. ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Phone:_________________(Home) ______________________(Business) Business address:_______________________________________ _______________________________________ Home address:_______________________________________ _______________________________________ FAX: ____________________ email:________________________ I am paying for: Registration fee $800 _____ Method of payment (please circle one): 1. 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PLEASE EMAIL COMPLETED REGISTRATION FORM TO: Karen Maguire, Library Administrative Officer kmaguire@unb.ca or mail or fax to: Karen Maguire UNB Libraries, PO Box 7500 Fredericton, NB E3B 5H5 PHONE: (506) 453-4740 FAX: (506) 453-4595 Confirmation of registration will be sent to you after processing. ****************************************************************** From: Alan Burk, Associate Director of Libraries and Director of the Electronic Text Centre Phone: 506-453-4740 Fax: 506-453-4595 http://www.hil.unb.ca/Texts/ From lround at directcon.net Wed Mar 22 15:48:57 2000 From: lround at directcon.net (Lorilie Roundtree) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: LCD monitors Message-ID: <38D931B8.990CE467@directcon.net> Greetings all, I'm fairly new to the list and haven't posted anything yet. I work in a small academic library and the staff has been given the opportunity to purchase some new computers for both the reference desk and for patron use. We've been thinking about purchasing the LCD flat monitors because of space, but have some concerns -- chiefly whether they hold up well in such a public setting, and whether patrons will be able to scroll through Internet pages without the image blurring. I searched this list's archives, but did not find much. Has anybody out there had experience using LCD monitors under these circumstances? If so did you have any problems with these monitors? Would you recommend them? I will appreciate any help you can give me, Lorilie Roundtree From stephen.treger at sdsu.edu Wed Mar 22 16:09:00 2000 From: stephen.treger at sdsu.edu (Stephen Treger) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] LCD monitors In-Reply-To: <38D931B8.990CE467@directcon.net> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000322130527.01fd2ad0@mail.sdsu.edu> We just sent through an order to replace some lab machines and some public/patron machines. For the lab, because of space constraints we will be using 15" flat panels. I didn't think they would be durable enough for the public access (read: unsupervised] areas. First patrons are apt to tap the screens with fingers, pens, pencils - leading to broken pixels. Second, if you have anyone cleaning the screen they could easily scratch the surface. If you are serious about a flat panel in that setting, either spec one with a glass screen, or get a glass or plexiglass [privacy?] cover to protect it. As I said we will be going to with them in a couple of labs. If we start to see damage we will improvise some type of protective cover. At 12:55 PM 3/22/00 -0800, Lorilie Roundtree wrote: >Greetings all, > >I'm fairly new to the list and haven't posted anything yet. I work in a >small academic library and the staff has been given the opportunity to >purchase some new computers for both the reference desk and for patron >use. We've been thinking about purchasing the LCD flat monitors because >of space, but have some concerns -- chiefly whether they hold up well in >such a public setting, and whether patrons will be able to scroll >through Internet pages without the image blurring. I searched this >list's archives, but did not find much. Has anybody out there had >experience using LCD monitors under these circumstances? If so did you >have any problems with these monitors? Would you recommend them? > >I will appreciate any help you can give me, > >Lorilie Roundtree From andrew_pace at ncsu.edu Wed Mar 22 16:29:11 2000 From: andrew_pace at ncsu.edu (Andrew K. Pace) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: POSITION OPENING - Librarian for the Integrated Library System Message-ID: <38D93B27.F79392F7@ncsu.edu> NORTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY LIBRARIES LIBRARIAN FOR THE INTEGRATED LIBRARY SYSTEM North Carolina State University Libraries invites applications and nominations for the position of Librarian for the Integrated Library System. The Libraries? integrated system interface uses software from Data Research Associates Inc. (DRA) for online catalog, acquisitions/ serials and circulation. The Librarian for the Integrated Library System will join the Systems Department (four librarians, nine information technology professionals, and two FTE student assistants) which is responsible for developing, implementing, and supporting advanced information systems for the Libraries. Responsibilities Provides library-wide coordination for development, implementation and evaluation of the integrated library system (ILS) interface features and services. Collaborates with staff in collection management, technical services, and public services responsible for managing departmental applications of the integrated library system. Maintains design and upgrades to the DRA Web OPAC interface (Web2). Generates system reports, designs report templates, consults with and supports staff in distributed report writing. Maintains awareness of the state-of-the-art in ILS development, interface design, management reporting, and library standards relevant to ILS operations, including EDI, MARC formats and NISO standards, including Z39.50. Coordinates interface design and configuration, database load, indexing and extract, and OCLC updates; creates user accounts and establishes access privileges; creates and maintains policy tables. Coordinates migration of services to new DRA system and the implementation of new releases and upgrades; develops and updates system documentation. Reports to Assistant Head of Systems. Qualifications Required: ALA-accredited MLS. Experience with large-scale integrated library system software. Thorough understanding of the MARC record and relational database structures. Excellent oral, written, and interpersonal communication skills and a customer service orientation. Ability to work independently and set priorities in a highly interactive team environment. Familiarity with HTML and Web-authoring tools. Preferred: Experience with library technical processing in an acquisitions, periodicals, cataloging, or circulation operation; familiarity with DRA software. Familiarity with any of VMS, Unix, or Windows NT (server and workstation) environments and client-server architecture. Salary and Benefits Salary is competitive and commensurate with experience. Librarians have academic status without tenure or rank. Benefits include: 26 days? vacation, 12 days sick leave; health insurance (comprehensive major medical or HMO), and state, TIAA/CREF or other retirement options. Additional and optional dental, life, disability, deferred compensation, and legal plans are available. Relocation allowance. Position available immediately. Applications will be reviewed upon receipt and will be accepted until the position is filled. To apply, send cover letter (including title of position), resume, and the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of four current, professional references to: Wendy L. Scott, Office of Personnel Services; Box 7111, NCSU Libraries; Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 Full vacancy announcement available at the Libraries web site: http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/personnel/jobs/ North Carolina State University is dedicated to equality of opportunity within its community. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Andrew K. Pace Assistant Head, Systems ~ NCSU Libraries North Carolina State University ~ Raleigh, NC andrew_pace@ncsu.edu ~ 919-515-3087 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mdiehl at bucknell.edu Wed Mar 22 16:50:12 2000 From: mdiehl at bucknell.edu (Mike Diehl) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: LCD monitors Message-ID: <4.3.2.20000322164308.00a7dbf0@mail.bucknell.edu> Folks, We use roughly 32 of the flat screen monitors in our public area and so far, it has almost been a year and they have been solid...Students and outside patrons love them...I provide the support for them and I'm quite happy. The technology has come a long way in LCD panels....We use IBM T55A , monitors. just my opinion. Mike >Greetings all, > >I'm fairly new to the list and haven't posted anything yet. I work in a >small academic library and the staff has been given the opportunity to >purchase some new computers for both the reference desk and for patron >use. We've been thinking about purchasing the LCD flat monitors because >of space, but have some concerns -- chiefly whether they hold up well in >such a public setting, and whether patrons will be able to scroll >through Internet pages without the image blurring. I searched this >list's archives, but did not find much. Has anybody out there had >experience using LCD monitors under these circumstances? If so did you >have any problems with these monitors? Would you recommend them? > >I will appreciate any help you can give me, > >Lorilie Roundtree From creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu Wed Mar 22 19:25:41 2000 From: creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu (John Creech) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Apache config question In-Reply-To: <200003221819.NAA23694@script.lib.indiana.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Jian Liu wrote: > http://myserver.indiana.edu/thisworks/ > > works, while > > http://myserver.indiana.edu/thisdoesnotwork > > doesn't work. Jian, >From the Apache FAQ: 9. Why does accessing directories only work when I include the trailing "/" (e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user/) but not when I omit it (e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user)? For answer to the above question see http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ.html#set-servername HTH. John Creech Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian Central Washington University Library 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu From dan at 84.com Wed Mar 22 22:32:23 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML help In-Reply-To: <8219E51779D7D311AF8B00805FA64FB201B9D9@NWL_WOR> References: <8219E51779D7D311AF8B00805FA64FB201B9D9@NWL_WOR> Message-ID: <14855.000322@84.com> SH> I created a "Harry Potter Jeopardy" type game for our library using HTML. SH> The idea was simple enough for a single use. Start out with a table with SH> the categories, etc. that looks like the Jeopardy screen. Regardless of the technical issues, I'd surely NOT put this out for the public without clearing it with the Jeopardy folks. Since it is for a nonprofit, public service type of thing they'd probably bless it. But it would be much better than getting a notice from their attorney. dan -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From dan at 84.com Wed Mar 22 22:32:46 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] FW: RE: Web4Lib and attachments In-Reply-To: <73A1FDE7DE40D11193D000805F15150B04D19DD2@xrccntsv3.xrcc.xerox.com> References: <73A1FDE7DE40D11193D000805F15150B04D19DD2@xrccntsv3.xrcc.xerox.com> Message-ID: <12856.000322@84.com> SCL> A web server would be great, but I am inside a firewall and do not have easy SCL> access to a server where the "outside world" has access. Depending on the firewall, you may be able to FTP to one of the free webspace providers. I believe that some of them also allow other forms of access. And, if you have any sort of decent ISP you have webspace available. But, regardless of that, attachments to a list are never appropriate. If you have no other solution, post a description and then email it to those who ask for it. -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From plum at ulink.net Thu Mar 23 01:16:17 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:48 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML help References: <8219E51779D7D311AF8B00805FA64FB201B9D9@NWL_WOR> Message-ID: <02a201bf948f$4f8ae4c0$2714a0d1@ycxfssto> Page 288 of Danny Goodman's JavaScript Bible 3rd ed. showcases the reload() method which would look something like this (after you obtained/gave credit to Danny and Alex Trebeck and everyone else): in the head tags, and then: somewhere obvious ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Herminghausen To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 6:32 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTML help > I created a "Harry Potter Jeopardy" type game for our library using HTML. > The idea was simple enough for a single use. Start out with a table with > the categories, etc. that looks like the Jeopardy screen. Click on > "Hogwarts for 200" which is a link to the page with the "answer" for that > square. People give the response in the form of a question. Click on a > back button, and you return to the main Jeopardy board which now does not > display "200" because the visited link color is set to the same color as the > background. This works great for a single use, but if somebody wanted to > play the game twice they'd have to clear their history of visiting the > "potter" site. > > We're considering posting a version of this game on our website, but I need > suggestions on the multiple use/visited link site problem. I'm thinking > that I'll probably have to do some JavaScript work to get what I want (links > to visited questions aren't visible anymore during the session the game is > played, or history of visited links could be cleared easily without having > to explain to people how to clear the history), but I'm not sure where to > start. Any suggestions? Consider me new to but willing to learn > JavaScript. > > Steve Herminghausen > Reference Librarian > Northwest Library > 2280 Hard Rd. > Columbus, OH 43235 From davidcj at MIT.EDU Thu Mar 23 08:36:00 2000 From: davidcj at MIT.EDU (David Johnson) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] LCD monitors Message-ID: <2.2.32.20000323133600.00833ae4@po10.mit.edu> We have a limited experience at MIT's Dewey Library at Sloan Schoool of management. We installed a 15" flat panel color monitor at the reference desk, part of the Gateway suite sold for about $1800 for computer and monitor. The CPU is in the base of the flat panel. It works fine, and can be swung around to share between librarian and patron. The librarians like it. I dont experience "blurring" to any great degree when scrolling a website. We have no plans to put them on patron workstations because their cost is about 4 to 6 times that of a traditional 17" monitor. (We usually buy Dell systems with a 17"monitor.) We have only had this up and running for about 6 months, so we cannot tell you anything about longevity. At 12:55 PM 03/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Greetings all, > >I'm fairly new to the list and haven't posted anything yet. I work in a >small academic library and the staff has been given the opportunity to >purchase some new computers for both the reference desk and for patron >use. We've been thinking about purchasing the LCD flat monitors because >of space, but have some concerns -- chiefly whether they hold up well in >such a public setting, and whether patrons will be able to scroll >through Internet pages without the image blurring. David Johnson Library Technology Consultant 617-253-9327 MIT Libraries Room 14-0615 77 Mass Ave Cambridge, MA 02139 From sherming at worthington.lib.oh.us Thu Mar 23 09:41:04 2000 From: sherming at worthington.lib.oh.us (Steve Herminghausen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: HTML help Message-ID: <8219E51779D7D311AF8B00805FA64FB201B9E0@NWL_WOR> Thanks for all the help so far. I can assure you all that we will be contacting the appropriate folks (Jeopardy's & Rowling's folks) for approval before posting it for public consumption. Hopefully the authorities will see this as the benevolent and altruistic effort that it is. I'll let you know where to find the finished product when/if it can be made public. Steve Herminghausen Reference Librarian Northwest Library 2280 Hard Rd. Columbus, OH 43235 http://www.worthington.lib.oh.us -----Original Message----- From: Dan Lester [mailto:dan@84.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 10:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: HTML help SH> I created a "Harry Potter Jeopardy" type game for our library using HTML. SH> The idea was simple enough for a single use. Start out with a table with SH> the categories, etc. that looks like the Jeopardy screen. Regardless of the technical issues, I'd surely NOT put this out for the public without clearing it with the Jeopardy folks. Since it is for a nonprofit, public service type of thing they'd probably bless it. But it would be much better than getting a notice from their attorney. dan -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Thu Mar 23 12:17:48 2000 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: HTML help References: <14855.000322@84.com> Message-ID: <38DA51BC.C8FDF401@cdrewu.edu> Dan Lester wrote: > SH> I created a "Harry Potter Jeopardy" type game for our library using HTML. > SH> The idea was simple enough for a single use. Start out with a table with > SH> the categories, etc. that looks like the Jeopardy screen. > > Regardless of the technical issues, I'd surely NOT put this out for > the public without clearing it with the Jeopardy folks. ...and perhaps with the "Harry Potter folks" as well (IANAL, etc. . .) -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/lib_home.htm From lispjh at ukoln.ac.uk Thu Mar 23 13:15:22 2000 From: lispjh at ukoln.ac.uk (Philip Hunter) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: Ariadne issue 23 available [23rd March 2000] References: <007a01bf5f95$13e93680$2292268a@ulpc-pjh.ukoln.ac.uk> Message-ID: <00e801bf94f3$c0f9e6b0$2292268a@ukoln.ac.uk> (Apologies for cross-posting) Issue 23 of Ariadne magazine is now available at: http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue23/ Main Articles: *So you want to build a Union Catalogue?: Matthew Dovey looks at various models of virtual union catalogues in addition to those adopted by the UK CLUMPS projects, and other models of physical catalogues. *The Oxford English Dictionary Online: Juliet New with the background to the electronic version, launched on the 14th of March. Plus *A user's review of the OED online venture by Peter Cliff. *Convergence of Electronic Entertainment and Information Systems: John Kirriemuir (former Editor of Ariadne) explores the technology and impact of expanding internet access, as well as a good history of the last thirty years of games consoles. *I say what I mean, but do I mean what I say?: Paul Miller reports on the latest MODELS workshop, and looks at the need for controlled terminologies and thesauri. *What have the CLUMPs ever done for us?: Peter Stubley (of the RIDING project) puts the CLUMPs in perspective. *Broadband TV: Philip Hunter links to broadband streaming video resources now emerging on the Internet. *EPRESS Stuart Peters on EPRESS text management software tools, currently in development. *A Wired Honduran Christmas: Eddie Young hooks up to the global network from Honduras, with some improvised electrical plumbing. Regular Columns: *The DISinHE Centre: Murray Rowan examines WebCT from the point of view of accessibility. *Search Engines: 'Ixquick', a multi search engine with a difference. Phil Bradley describes how Ixquick stacks up against the competition. *Planet SOSIG: Justine Kitchen of the Resource Discovery Network Centre on the recent SOSIG relaunch, and Debra Hiom explores New Learning and Teaching Support Networks in the Social Sciences. *EEVL: EMC Update; EEVL Nuggets; and Railway Engineering on the Internet *Public Libraries Sheridan Dunkley on the partnership between Islington Libraries, London, and CyberSkills. Get Tooled Up: *Web Focus: The Use of Third Party Web Services, by Brian Kelly. *Web Watch: A Survey Of Links to UK University Web Sites. Brian Kelly reports on the number of links to University web sites. At The Event: *CLUMPS conference at Goldsmiths College, London: Ariadne reports on the first of two CLUMPS conferences, held on the 3rd of March. Book Reviews: *Madeleine Shepherd: Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning... was the Command Line" *Peter Cliff: "Online Searching". (Library Association) Plus! The regular cartoon, AND the Caption Competition! Article proposals and submissions, comments and general enquiries about the magazine should be sent to: ariadne@ukoln.ac.uk Copy deadline for issue 24 is May 22nd for articles in Word format, and May 31st for submissions in HTML (using our document templates). Publication date for issue 24 is scheduled for Wednesday June 21. Philip Hunter Information Officer and Co-Editor of Ariadne and Exploit Interactive Tel: +44 (0) 1225 826354 Fax: +44 (0) 1225 826838 Email: p.j.hunter@ukoln.ac.uk URL: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/ Ariadne: http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/ From jrosenhamer at okc.cc.ok.us Thu Mar 23 14:12:49 2000 From: jrosenhamer at okc.cc.ok.us (John Rosenhamer) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: Cache in Netscape and IE Message-ID: I'm not sure when this started to happen, but I became aware of it in late January. I change our main webpage often to provide up to date information, like when the Library will be closed for Christmas or Spring break, changes in hours for Intercessions, etc. and to announce new services. Just those things that come up now and then etc., etc., etc. Just before Christmas Break we went from Netscape to IE because we had to update and we didn't want the netscape composer, along with all the other baggage Netscape now brings with it. At that time I also posted the notice that the Library would be closed from Dec. 23 to Jan 2 (I think). When we came back I removed that notice, edited a few other elements on our Mainframe html. Around Jan 15th or so my director ask me when I was going to take the notice that the library was closed over Christmas off the page. I told her I did it. Went back to my computer and found that in IE the change was made but in Netscape it was still holding the old notice. I cleared the cache in Netscape and it picked up the new (now 14 days old) changes. Then I noticed the IE had not picked up some recent changes. Fooled around there, cleared the cache, etc. and found in the Internet Options under Tools that there was a button (General Tab, temporary Internet Files) called Settings. If you pushed the setting you got 4 options under "Check for newer versions of stored page" with automatically as the default. In the help screen it said in so many words that IE will keep a count of how many times you visit a page and the more often you visit (if the page doesn't change) it will check less and less. So I changed the choice to "Every visit to the page" and had it changed on all our machines. Along with this change I had the cache cleared. Well that doesn't seem to work. For our internal users with Netscape, even with clearing cache, history and any thing I can think to change, It doesn't want to go back and get the info from the server. (Netscape version 4.6) In fact, just before Spring Break (for us March 13 to 19th) is still on my Netscape page (March 22). No matter what I do it doesn't want to get the new information. For IE I had to clear the history and cache, etc. before it came up with the changes. I made some more changes on the 20th and each time to get IE to accept them I had to clear my own IE's history and cache. As I said Netscape 4.6 still has not found the changes. I have gone to the server and read the files there. The changes are posted. So I'm stumped. How do I get these programs to get the new pages when the seem to want to load from cache rather than check the server for changed pages. Know this is a long and rambling post, but I hope I've stated the case as best I can. By the way our IE is 5.0. and I have been using Pro 97 to edit, but just recently instilled Dreamweaver. The edits after Christmas were made with Pro 97, after Spring Break with Dreamweaver. John John H. Rosenhamer Technical Services Libraian Oklahoma City Community College 7777 S. May Ave. Oklahoma City, OK 73159 jrosenhamer@okc.cc.ok.us (405) 682-1611 Ext. 7229 FAX (405) 682-7585 From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu Mar 23 14:52:07 2000 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Cache in Netscape and IE References: Message-ID: <38DA75E7.C41473BE@tln.lib.mi.us> Just a reminder to those who still view the world through the Netscape browser that stand-alone version 4.08 provides all the functionality that Communicator 4.5 + provides [Javascript, stable Java, some CSS support, etc. - unless you want a shopping bag on your toolbar...] Unless you specifically need one of the other Communicator components, I would strongly advise using Navigator 4.08 if you have it deployed in a public setting. It often is more stable than Communicator [definitely less bloated!] and much easier to lock down against patron "adjustments". Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI > Just before Christmas Break we went from Netscape to IE because we had to update and we didn't want the netscape composer, along with all the other baggage Netscape now brings with it. At that time I also posted the notice that the Library would be closed from Dec. 23 to Jan 2 (I think). When we came back I removed that notice, edited a few other elements on our Mainframe html. Around Jan 15th or so my director ask me when I was going to take the notice that the library was closed over Christmas off the page. I told her I did it. From stephen.treger at sdsu.edu Thu Mar 23 16:10:06 2000 From: stephen.treger at sdsu.edu (Stephen Treger) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cache in Netscape and IE In-Reply-To: <38DA75E7.C41473BE@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000323130748.02939410@mail.sdsu.edu> Hear-Hear to that. For our public machines 4.08 is the product of choice. Though it does have one MAJOR drawback that you did not mention - no email support. If you configure another messaging application on the workstation to enable patrons to send web pages then it isn't a problem. Either way (4.08 or 4.71) I highly recommend using the Mission Control product to customize the menus and toolbars. It also allows us to build a .CFG file preventing users from changing virtually any of the preferences. At 11:50 AM 3/23/00 -0800, Andrew Mutch wrote: >Just a reminder to those who still view the world through the Netscape >browser that stand-alone version 4.08 provides all the functionality that >Communicator 4.5 + provides [Javascript, stable Java, some CSS support, >etc. - unless you want a shopping bag on your toolbar...] Unless you >specifically need one of the other Communicator components, I would >strongly advise using Navigator 4.08 if you have it deployed in a public >setting. It often is more stable than Communicator [definitely less >bloated!] and much easier to lock down against patron "adjustments". > >Andrew Mutch >Library Systems Technician >Waterford Township Public Library >Waterford, MI > > > > > Just before Christmas Break we went from Netscape to IE because we had > to update and we didn't want the netscape composer, along with all the > other baggage Netscape now brings with it. At that time I also posted > the notice that the Library would be closed from Dec. 23 to Jan 2 (I > think). When we came back I removed that notice, edited a few other > elements on our Mainframe html. Around Jan 15th or so my director ask me > when I was going to take the notice that the library was closed over > Christmas off the page. I told her I did it. From corys at athabascau.ca Thu Mar 23 17:10:01 2000 From: corys at athabascau.ca (Cory Stier) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Cache in Netscape and IE References: Message-ID: <01d201bf9514$889f77a0$e506e883@lib.athabascau.ca> Have you tried using the expires setting in the META tags in your HTML documents? You could set the expiry to 0, so that the browser is forced to reload the page every time it is accessed. Check out the information at the following URL: http://vancouver-webpages.com/META/metatags.detail.html#expires Cory Stier Library Gateway Developer Athabasca University Library 1 University Drive Athabasca, Alberta, Canada T9S 3A3 Phone: (780) 675-6486 Toll-free: (800) 788-9041 ext. 6486 In Calgary: 263-6465 ext. 6486 In Edmonton: 421-8700 ext. 6486 Fax: (780) 675-6477 E-mail: corys@athabascau.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rosenhamer" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Cache in Netscape and IE > I'm not sure when this started to happen, but I became aware of it in late January. > > I change our main webpage often to provide up to date information, like when the Library will be closed for Christmas or Spring break, changes in hours for Intercessions, etc. and to announce new services. Just those things that come up now and then etc., etc., etc. > > Just before Christmas Break we went from Netscape to IE because we had to update and we didn't want the netscape composer, along with all the other baggage Netscape now brings with it. At that time I also posted the notice that the Library would be closed from Dec. 23 to Jan 2 (I think). When we came back I removed that notice, edited a few other elements on our Mainframe html. Around Jan 15th or so my director ask me when I was going to take the notice that the library was closed over Christmas off the page. I told her I did it. > > Went back to my computer and found that in IE the change was made but in Netscape it was still holding the old notice. I cleared the cache in Netscape and it picked up the new (now 14 days old) changes. Then I noticed the IE had not picked up some recent changes. Fooled around there, cleared the cache, etc. and found in the Internet Options under Tools that there was a button (General Tab, temporary Internet Files) called Settings. If you pushed the setting you got 4 options under "Check for newer versions of stored page" with automatically as the default. In the help screen it said in so many words that IE will keep a count of how many times you visit a page and the more often you visit (if the page doesn't change) it will check less and less. So I changed the choice to "Every visit to the page" and had it changed on all our machines. Along with this change I had the cache cleared. > > Well that doesn't seem to work. For our internal users with Netscape, even with clearing cache, history and any thing I can think to change, It doesn't want to go back and get the info from the server. (Netscape version 4.6) In fact, just before Spring Break (for us March 13 to 19th) is still on my Netscape page (March 22). No matter what I do it doesn't want to get the new information. > > For IE I had to clear the history and cache, etc. before it came up with the changes. I made some more changes on the 20th and each time to get IE to accept them I had to clear my own IE's history and cache. As I said Netscape 4.6 still has not found the changes. > > I have gone to the server and read the files there. The changes are posted. So I'm stumped. How do I get these programs to get the new pages when the seem to want to load from cache rather than check the server for changed pages. > > Know this is a long and rambling post, but I hope I've stated the case as best I can. By the way our IE is 5.0. and I have been using Pro 97 to edit, but just recently instilled Dreamweaver. The edits after Christmas were made with Pro 97, after Spring Break with Dreamweaver. > > John > > > John H. Rosenhamer > Technical Services Libraian > Oklahoma City Community College > 7777 S. May Ave. > Oklahoma City, OK 73159 > > jrosenhamer@okc.cc.ok.us > > (405) 682-1611 Ext. 7229 > FAX (405) 682-7585 > > From womack at wfu.edu Fri Mar 24 10:59:30 2000 From: womack at wfu.edu (Giz Womack) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: Staff Training in Libraries? References: <4.3.1.2.20000323130748.02939410@mail.sdsu.edu> Message-ID: <38DB90E2.EF048EF5@wfu.edu> We would like to hear from any other academic libraries that have assumed campus-wide staff training responsibilities. Please reply off-list and let us know a few details if possible (staff size, budget, number of classes taught.) If there is enough interest we will summarize our findings for the listserv. Thanks -- H. David "Giz" Womack http://www.wfu.edu/~womack ITC Specialist II Z. Smith Reynolds Library PO Box 7777 Winston-Salem, NC 27109 Office-336.758.4314 Fax-336.758.8831 ZSR Computer Training Materials http://www.wfu.edu/Library/ITC/training/trainingmaterialsoftware.html Student ThinkPad Training Request Form http://www.wfu.edu/Library/cgi-bin/training.cgi ----------------------------------------------------- "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history--with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." --Mitch Ratliffe, "Technology Review" From L.Morris at BrooklynPublicLibrary.org Fri Mar 24 11:37:33 2000 From: L.Morris at BrooklynPublicLibrary.org (Morris, Lisa) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: JOb Posting Message-ID: <35AB7700E4E5D21186A300A0C9B6B2BF0FB9D3DA@BPLWIRED3> Please post the following - thank you! DIVISION MANAGER Brooklyn Public Library, the nation's fifth largest public library system, seeks a Division Manager for its Central Library. Under direction of the Chief of the Central Library, will plan and direct the operations of several subject divisions and other operations in the Central Library. Provides leadership for the coordination, development and management of library services and programs within the Central Library based upon the Brooklyn Public Library's vision, mission, goals, and objectives. Functions as a member of the Central Library Administration Team and a member of the BPL Executive Management Team. RESPONSIBILITIES: * Managing the daily operations of the Central Library * Establishing budgets & service priorities in coordination with Division Chiefs to implement Central Library goals and objectives * Managing resources including budget, staff, and materials to ensure the delivery of high quality services * Developing new polices and procedures for the Central Library * Ensuring the integration of technology into all Central Library operations * Performing other related responsibilities as well as new service initiatives in a dynamically changing environment QUALIFICATONS: * MLS from an accredited program * Five years of progressive responsible administrative and/or supervisory library experience * Demonstrated leadership ability in organizational change and problem solving * Excellent communication skills including the ability to work and communicate cross culturally with diverse groups and individuals * Innovative thinker; detail oriented * Highly developed organizational skills including the ability to direct large projects * Team builder and player * Sound information technology skills including knowledge of current and emerging library technologies * Thorough knowledge of competencies for public service librarians, and of principals of library philosophy and administration * Deep understanding of issues related to urban public libraries Salary commensurate with qualifications and experience. Excellent fringe benefits. Send/fax/e-mail resume with cover letter and salary requirement to: Brooklyn Public Library, Human Resources Dept., Grand Army Plaza, Brooklyn, NY 11238; Fax: (718) 230-6743. E-mail: job2058@brooklynpubliclibrary.org EOE Lisa R. Morris Human Resources Recruiter Brooklyn Public Library Grand Army Plaza Brooklyn, New York 11238 (718) 230-2454 / Fax: 230-6743 l.morris@brooklynpubliclibrary.org From e_blackadderi at hotmail.com Fri Mar 24 13:02:50 2000 From: e_blackadderi at hotmail.com (Jerremie V Clyde) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: Developing an online and e-commerce strategy? Message-ID: <20000324180250.92869.qmail@hotmail.com> I apologise for cross-posting to anyone who has already received this message on another list. For those of us struggling with the rapidly changing online and e-commerce issues, you may want to take a look at these new e-reports for libraries, archives and museums. The e-reports are comprehensive and full of interesting information specifically for libraries, archives and museums. They will certainly help you through the "online maze"! Issue 1 of the E-LAM Reports, electronic reports for libraries, archives and museums is now available. This issue focuses on developing an online and e-commerce strategy, including a detailed checklist for developing your own strategy. For more information, see: http://copyrightlaws.com Jerremie Clyde MLIS Candidate ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From vrdconf at ericir.syr.edu Fri Mar 24 15:41:43 2000 From: vrdconf at ericir.syr.edu (VRD Conference) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: REMINDER THE FACETS OF DIGITAL REFERENCE The VRD 2nd Annual Digital Reference Conference http://vrd.org/conferences/VRD2000/callforprop.html October 16-17, 2000 Sheraton Seattle Seattle, WA *Deadline for Submissions: April 1, 2000* "The Facets of Digital Reference" will highlight digital reference service in all contexts: libraries and information centers, education, Intranets, the commercial sector, government, and more. 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Conference topics include: -Digital reference service management -Technology for digital reference -General issues in digital reference -Case studies in digital reference service Who should attend? -Librarians and other information professionals -Digital reference and AskA service representatives -Government agency representatives -Commercial sector representatives -Anyone interested in digital reference issues ********************************************************************** See the CALL FOR PROPOSALS http://www.vrd.org/conferences/VRD2000/callforprop.html *********************************************************************** For more information regarding the VRD 2000 Annual Digital Reference Conference, please contact the Virtual Reference Desk at vrdconf@vrd.org. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For information on the 1999 VRD Digital Reference Conference, see: http://www.vrd.org/conferences/VRD99/conf99.html The VRD Digital Reference Conference is organized by the Virtual Reference Desk (VRD), a project of the ERIC Clearinghouse on Information and Technology, with support from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. VRD is a project dedicated to the advancement of digital reference for all audiences in all contexts, and is building a network of digital reference services for the K-12 education community. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Virtual Reference Desk Project http://www.vrd.org vrd@vrd.org From stbowers at lj.cahners.com Fri Mar 24 17:11:53 2000 From: stbowers at lj.cahners.com (Bowers, Stacey (Cahners-NYC)) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: THIS WEEK ON LJDIGITAL, 3/27/00 Message-ID: THIS WEEK ON LJDIGITAL, 3/27/00 --> NEWS Iraqis Found A-bomb Info in Academic Libraries http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_14005.asp Gap in Internet Content Seen for Poor and Immigrants http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_14004.asp Univ. Presses Boycott Hotel Amid Racial Discrimination Suit http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_14003.asp CyberPatrol Makers Claim Copyright Violation http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_14002.asp Kempton's Papers Donated to Columbia Rarities Library http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_14001.asp Papers of Early Black Educator Found in Attic, Go to UV Library http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_14000.asp Patent Library May Go Out of Business http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_13999.asp Commission on Child Online Protection Moving Slowly http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/thisweek/20000327_13998.asp INFOTECH NM State Library/UNM Offering Health Data to Public http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000327_13993.asp Alabama Issues Virtual Library Cards http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000327_13992.asp Grycz Named Octavo's CEO http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000327_13991.asp EBSCO Makes Christie Resha Library Head http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/infotech/news/20000327_13990.asp BOOK NEWS Fatbrain Launches MightyWords to Compete with Publishers http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000327_13989.asp American Author Not Wild About Harry, Files Plagiarism Suit http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000327_13988.asp Brace of Unpublished Goethe Poems Discovered in French Library http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000327_13987.asp BABRA Awards Presented at Ceremony at SFPL http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/booknews/20000327_13986.asp CLASSIC RETURNS The First Four Books of Poems by W.S. Merwin. http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/books/classicreturns/classicreturnsindex.a sp FEEDBACK "If ALA spent....less time parading on the steps of the Supreme Court, and a little more time fighting for the rights of its membership, a career in librarianship would be a more attractive prospect." http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/views/feedback/feedbackindex.asp CALENDAR Kansas librarians meet the "...Challenge of the future." http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/news/calendar/calendarindex.asp WEBWATCH Cold War Web Sites http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/multimedia/webwatch/webwatchindex.asp *************************** Stacey Bowers Producer LJ Digital http://www.ljdigital.com stbowers@lj.cahners.com 212.337.7054 *************************** From kjustie at webrary.org Fri Mar 24 17:38:29 2000 From: kjustie at webrary.org (Kevin Justie) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: netscape quitting Message-ID: <200003242238.OAA17262@webjunction.org> We have four public Internet PC (3 Win95, 1 Win98) which worked problem-free with Netscape 4.05. Two weeks ago I upgraded them to 4.7 and now Netscape randomly quits several times a day on each computer; the computer itself does not crash, and Netscape doesn't truly crash in the sense of giving any kind of error -- it just quits and leaves the user at the desktop. Security software on the PCs is Fortres and WinSelect Kiosk; because the computers were added at different times, they have various versions of these programs, but one of the PCs has the latest versions of both and still experiences the problem. I also run a small WinBatch script for resetting to the home page after a period of non-use. Has anyone else experienced this problem with Netscape? Any suggested solutions? Thanks! kevin Kevin Justie Ass't. Director, Head of Technical and Automated Services Morton Grove Public Library Morton Grove, IL (847) 965-4220 kjustie@webrary.org http://www.webrary.org Opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect official Library policy. From absher at sequent.com Fri Mar 24 19:26:01 2000 From: absher at sequent.com (Absher, Linda (absher)) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: Google to Integrate ODP into Results Message-ID: <0593FCC88F76D2118B4400E029249BD90584B434@wingnut.sequent.com> Google's plan to integrate the Open Directory Project directories in search results: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/03/24/google_odp/index.html LInda -- Linda Absher / absher@sequent.com / 503.578.3485 Intranet Librarian / IBM NUMA-Q/ Beaverton, OR "The more I read, the more questions I have. Every time I pass a library I get an anxiety attack." --SeaQuest DSV From schlumpf at nslsilus.org Fri Mar 24 22:41:00 2000 From: schlumpf at nslsilus.org (Peter Schlumpf) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] netscape quitting References: <200003242238.OAA17262@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <38DC354C.76F3FD55@nslsilus.org> Here at North Suburban Library System we've had similar stability problems with Netscape 4.7 and we've had to go back to earlier versions (4.5 seems okay). Perhaps you could try that one. Peter Kevin Justie wrote: > We have four public Internet PC (3 Win95, 1 Win98) which worked problem-free > with Netscape 4.05. Two weeks ago I upgraded them to 4.7 and now Netscape > randomly quits several times a day on each computer; the computer itself > does not crash, and Netscape doesn't truly crash in the sense of giving any > kind of error -- it just quits and leaves the user at the desktop. > > Security software on the PCs is Fortres and WinSelect Kiosk; because the > computers were added at different times, they have various versions of these > programs, but one of the PCs has the latest versions of both and still > experiences the problem. I also run a small WinBatch script for resetting > to the home page after a period of non-use. > > Has anyone else experienced this problem with Netscape? Any suggested > solutions? > > Thanks! > > kevin > > Kevin Justie > Ass't. Director, Head of Technical and Automated Services > Morton Grove Public Library > Morton Grove, IL > (847) 965-4220 > kjustie@webrary.org > http://www.webrary.org > Opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect > official Library policy. From dan at 84.com Fri Mar 24 22:57:32 2000 From: dan at 84.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:52 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: netscape quitting In-Reply-To: <38DC354C.76F3FD55@nslsilus.org> References: <38DC354C.76F3FD55@nslsilus.org> Message-ID: <12873.000324@84.com> PS> Here at North Suburban Library System we've had similar stability problems with PS> Netscape 4.7 and we've had to go back to earlier versions (4.5 seems okay). PS> Perhaps you could try that one. We've had so much trouble with all the versions of netscape that we've removed them from all public machines, which are now IE5 only. Some staff keep various versions of NS on their machines, but we do NOT support them if they have any problems. If/when the new NS comes out we'll look at it and try it....and see if it is worth messing with. Having made the move away from NS, it would take quite a bit for us to move back to it. dan -- Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, ID 83716-7115 USA dan@84.com www.84.com www.postcard.org 208-383-0165 From matthew.wilcox at yale.edu Mon Mar 27 08:13:29 2000 From: matthew.wilcox at yale.edu (Matt Wilcox) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database In-Reply-To: <38DEB64C.ED91A1E5@library.utah.edu> Message-ID: <4.1.20000327080650.00b23f00@email.med.yale.edu> Maybe Coffman was right. Wasn't this a big piece of his "earth's larget library" idea? The "profit" motive would be for libraries to provide a better service to their users. And since the users obviously like how amazon or barnes and noble give them more than just the basic catalog record, it seems like a no-brainer to me (but then people have accused me as being a no-brainer :) --matt At 05:18 PM 3/26/00 -0800, Debra Lords wrote: >Why does it have to wait to be a money maker? What happened >here? Did libraries die out from under me while I was working on >computers? Did all the librarians drop off the face of the earth >in some huge maelstrom that went unreported because no one >cared? > >A literary database of the sort you talk about is what librarians >are supposed to do. The central storage arena for theses -- who >developed that? Not profit minded entrepreneaurs. Librarians. >Who has cooperatively worked on shared cataloging of major >microform sets? No bottom profit line here. Librarians. A >friend of mine asked if the library profession is dying. Maybe >it is. These are the types of things librarians used to pull >together and do, dragging non-access out of the mud. Did >technology destroy the ability to do that? I don't think so. > >So the ALA cooperative efforts, research library efforts, all >those massive projects that used to get done are still needed. >Technology doesn't change that. So its time for one of the >librarians committees to start working on getting it done. >Create the solution to the need. Don't wait for an entrepreneur >to do it. Take care of the patrons. If you don't, who will? If >a method doesn't exist, why not create the method? > >-- > >Debbie > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >Debra Lords Experience is what you >dlords@library.utah.edu have just right after >ACLIS Labs you need it. >585-9810 > > >"Paul H. Gray" wrote: >> >> Welcome to the real world -- where every major advance or undertaking in >> recent memory has happened because someone saw a chance to make a profit. >> The kind of undertaking you are talking about will happen only/if/when some >> creative soul finds a way to make money from doing it. >> SO - >> This is a great idea -- some of of you creative/greedy souls get busy :-) >> >> > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: >> > >> > [...] >> > > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet >> > > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're >> > > trying to sell you something. >> > >> > The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. >> > >> > I do believe someone pointed out a site/service the other day that allowed >> > you to link to it with an ISBN as an argument, and that site would then >> > redirect you (based upon previously set preferences ala cookie) to >> > any one of a number of reference sites and/or booksellers. >> > >> http://www.linkbaton.com/ >> >> Currently, the only options for LinkBaton linking to books appear to be >> commercial, mainly online booksellers. >> >> There are many possibilities if you toss Library of Congress, Z39.50, >> local web-based catalogs, and a few others into the mix. >> >> I do believe linkbaton is open source, or soon to be. Unable to find any >> reference to it on the site. >> >> -jeff >> >> -- >> Jeff Godin >> Network Specialist >> Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network >> jeff@tcnet.org - 231/932-8546 voice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- matthew.wilcox@yale.edu 203-785-5680 From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Mon Mar 27 09:30:57 2000 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Sniffers? References: Message-ID: <38DF70A1.E9247B72@am.appstate.edu> You could read the log file into mysql if there is a delimiter, even a space, on each side of your URL in the log and do a query just on the url field using the keyword "distinct". This can be done on linux or windows. If you are using linux, there is a program called webalyzer which gives a similar output as the webtrends product and I think it is free but I'm not sure if you can show unique hits. Thomas Michael Dargan wrote: > > I'm using the Elron Internet Manager to gather stats about web usage by = > public and staff. It's rather expensive and has many features that I = > don't need or want. For example, I don't need to actually block or keep = > track of individual usage. I really want to show how many unique sites = > have been visited over a period of time, the top 100 most popular sites = > and the busiest workstations. > > Does anyone have a cheap, reliable way to grab this traffic and pull = > reports out of it? > > --- > Michael J. Dargan office: 319 291 4496 > Technical Systems Administrator fax: 319 291 6736 > Waterloo and Cedar Falls Public Libraries Waterloo, IA 50701 -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant II University Library bennettt@am.appstate.edu http://www.library.appstate.edu/webmaster/ Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 3001 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From Bigwood at lpi.usra.edu Mon Mar 27 10:05:55 2000 From: Bigwood at lpi.usra.edu (Bigwood, David) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] We need an Internet Literary Database Message-ID: I think the information is out there. Many living authors have their own sites. There are fan sites for many of the series. There are sites devoted to a particular genre, mystery, science fiction, romance. Book reviews are available. If all else fails there is the publisher and the booksellers like Amazon. What would be nice would be a central site for linking, maybe a PURL reslover for literature. A PURL could be established for a title, using the ISBN as the last part of the link. http://purl.zzz.org/LIT/1565923227 Is an example (it is not valid) of the form of the PURL. Everything up to the ISBN would be the same for all links, making it easy to search. Then anyone could search the site and see if there was a place to link to. If not they could do their own search and contribute the link for the next library. If there were many sites, the Harry Porter Fan Club, Rowling's site, publishers site, each of these could be numbered at the end of the ISBN like: http://purl.zzz.org/LIT/1565923227-3 http://purl.zzz.org/LIT/1565923227-2 http://purl.zzz.org/LIT/1565923227-1 (again, none of these are valid) This collaborative effort, would be much easier to set up than deciding the fields, display, search capability, etc, of a central database. We might only end up recreating RLIN or OCLC otherwise. So who would be willing to host the PURL resolver? If you are to familiar with the PURL check out http://purl.oclc.org Sincerely, David Bigwood bigwood@lpi.usra.edu Lunar & Planetary Institute > -----Original Message----- > From: Hanan Cohen [SMTP:hanan@qglibrary.org.il] > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 12:44 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] We need an Internet Literary Database > > By Jeffery Zeldman - http://www.zeldman.com/coming.html > > 26 March, 2000 > [12:30 am] > Every time we mention a book, we feel compelled to link to it, as we'd > link to any other subject matter. Problem: With no comprehensive > non-commercial book resources on the web, we inevitably end up linking > to Amazon.com or a similar commercial resource, and that makes us feel > like book pimps. Solution: The web needs an Internet Literary Database, > similar to the Internet Movie Database, so we can link to books without > looking like we're trying to sell you something. > > -- > Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il > ***Love and Peace*** From stephen.treger at sdsu.edu Mon Mar 27 10:29:36 2000 From: stephen.treger at sdsu.edu (Stephen Treger) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Sniffers? In-Reply-To: <38DF70A1.E9247B72@am.appstate.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000327072336.00ce0ed0@mail.sdsu.edu> Noone really is answering the real question, which is how to grab the traffic. Your best bet would be to install and configure your users to go through a proxy. Something free like Squid has great performance, caching, and generates log files. You can compile it for any UNIX system. Or deploy a NetWare BorderManager - which has earned top picks. Obviously it is more expensive. Using a sniffer is okay, though if you are in a switched environment you would need to 'sniff' at the router. There are free sniffers out there for various platforms - though getting them to work passively with the various network cards can be difficult. Deploying a proxy (such as Squid) will increase retrieval for your clients for static pages, I definately recommend looking into it as an option. Once you have the [standard] logs, any analyzer product should be able to provide the data you need. That is of course a downside to going with a consolidated product like Elron's. The log files are a proprietary format. At 06:59 AM 3/27/00 -0800, TMGB wrote: >You could read the log file into mysql if there is a delimiter, even a >space, on each side of your URL in the log and do a query just on the >url field using the keyword "distinct". This can be done on linux or >windows. If you are using linux, there is a program called webalyzer >which gives a similar output as the webtrends product and I think it is >free but I'm not sure if you can show unique hits. > >Thomas > >Michael Dargan wrote: > > > > I'm using the Elron Internet Manager to gather stats about web usage by = > > public and staff. It's rather expensive and has many features that I = > > don't need or want. For example, I don't need to actually block or keep = > > track of individual usage. I really want to show how many unique sites = > > have been visited over a period of time, the top 100 most popular sites = > > and the busiest workstations. > > > > Does anyone have a cheap, reliable way to grab this traffic and pull = > > reports out of it? > > __________________________________________________________ Stephen Treger, OS Analyst | Phone: 619 594-5859 Malcolm A. Love Library, SDSU | Fax: 619 594-8982 WWW http://fezzik.sdsu.edu | mailto:treger@sdsu.edu Yahoo! Pager ID s_treger | ICQ # 4725463 Online Calendar http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/s_treger From raybornr at crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Mon Mar 27 10:38:32 2000 From: raybornr at crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us (Roger Rayborn) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000327080650.00b23f00@email.med.yale.edu> References: <4.1.20000327080650.00b23f00@email.med.yale.edu> Message-ID: At 5:17 AM -0800 3/27/00, Matt Wilcox wrote: >Maybe Coffman was right. Wasn't this a big piece of his "earth's larget >library" idea? The "profit" motive would be for libraries to provide a >better service to their users. And since the users obviously like how >amazon or barnes and noble give them more than just the basic catalog >record, it seems like a no-brainer to me (but then people have accused me >as being a no-brainer :) > >--matt > Haven't heard "earth's largest library" library mentioned in months. Last I heard Steve Coffman felt that OCLC (or some other INCOLSA/BCR type regional system) was developing just such a "fat record" database. Maybe it is time for libraries to "take back" OCLC and give them guidance as to what "we" want instead of them telling us what we want. The new BIP is also a step towards a database of this type. (as is the new Baker & Taylor product) On the other hand, maybe this could/should have been developed in the non-profit world by the Library of Congress. I suspect in the VERRRRY near future, we will see something approaching an "Internet Literary Database". -- Roger A. Rayborn raybornr@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Computer Information Services Manager (319) 398-5123 Cedar Rapids Public Library 500 1st St SE Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52404 From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Mon Mar 27 10:36:37 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google to Integrate ODP into Results References: <0593FCC88F76D2118B4400E029249BD90584B434@wingnut.sequent.com> Message-ID: <38DF8005.9470F5B5@qglibrary.org.il> "Absher, Linda (absher)" wrote: > > Google's plan to integrate the Open Directory Project directories in search results: I feel so frustrated! Three years ago I thought of "Yahista" It was a combination of (you guessed it) Yahoo and Altavista. You would search for a term, the program would send the query to AltaVista, get the results and send a domain query to Yahoo, getting the directory category/s. Then it would show you the AltaVista search result WITH the Yahoo category/s. Not three years passes and Google make my dream come true. Oh well, lets try the next idea... -- Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.oth.il ***Love and Peace*** From rhill at asis.org Mon Mar 27 11:44:26 2000 From: rhill at asis.org (Richard Hill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000327114414.00fbf4f8@mail.asis.org> We still have a few places left at the "Defining Information Architecture" meeting, April 7 - 9 at Boston's Logan Airport Hilton. Over 300 people already (3/24), and spaces is filling fast. Boards for posting resume's and job openings. See http://www.asis.org/Conferences/Summit2000/index.html for current information on the meeting and a link for hotel reservations. --------------- Richard Hill American Society for Information Science 8720 Georgia Avenue, Suite 501 Silver Spring, MD 20910 (301) 495-0900 FAX: (301) 495-0810 http://www.asis.org From khartman at mwc.edu Mon Mar 27 12:03:20 2000 From: khartman at mwc.edu (karen hartman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database Message-ID: I have been doing a lot of thinking about how much an academic literary database was needed for a few months now. I am running an off-campus library with no circulating books. I have been producing subject "acquisition lists" of new books that are in the main campus library. To make it more like people are picking a book off the shelf, I make hyperlinks to the book titles that go to Amazon.com. This way the person gets (usually) a picture of the book's cover and some book reviews (even these mostly non-scholarly reviews are better than nothing). Then if the users want to request the book, they have a form that they fill out, and the book comes to the library by courier the next day. This got me thinking about how nice it would be if these hyperlinks could go to a URL that was on a non-commercial site, complete with academic book reviews, like what Choice does. The problem is that these scholarly reviews are proprietary and not open to the public (primarily for collection development, or even if a network license was obtained, it would limit its usefulness). All of my students live off-campus so most of them rely on a proxy server arrangement for proprietary databases. Then I started thinking that if librarians could get together and provide a site like this (it would be a mammoth job), then I would imagine catalogs (even the Library of Congress) would link to it, to provide more information about each book for those people who are at home, and not a few feet from the shelves where the books live. The reviews could be written by librarians or faculty from around the world. I don't know how such a project could get off the ground, but I would love to see a service like this. One that was scholarly, reliable, and free to the public. -Karen >>> Matt Wilcox 03/27 8:21 AM >>> Maybe Coffman was right. Wasn't this a big piece of his "earth's larget library" idea? The "profit" motive would be for libraries to provide a better service to their users. And since the users obviously like how amazon or barnes and noble give them more than just the basic catalog record, it seems like a no-brainer to me (but then people have accused me as being a no-brainer :) --matt At 05:18 PM 3/26/00 -0800, Debra Lords wrote: >Why does it have to wait to be a money maker? What happened >here? Did libraries die out from under me while I was working on >computers? Did all the librarians drop off the face of the earth >in some huge maelstrom that went unreported because no one >cared? > >A literary database of the sort you talk about is what librarians >are supposed to do. The central storage arena for theses -- who >developed that? Not profit minded entrepreneaurs. Librarians. >Who has cooperatively worked on shared cataloging of major >microform sets? No bottom profit line here. Librarians. A >friend of mine asked if the library profession is dying. Maybe >it is. These are the types of things librarians used to pull >together and do, dragging non-access out of the mud. Did >technology destroy the ability to do that? I don't think so. > >So the ALA cooperative efforts, research library efforts, all >those massive projects that used to get done are still needed. >Technology doesn't change that. So its time for one of the >librarians committees to start working on getting it done. >Create the solution to the need. Don't wait for an entrepreneur >to do it. Take care of the patrons. If you don't, who will? If >a method doesn't exist, why not create the method? > >-- > >Debbie > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >Debra Lords Experience is what you >dlords@library.utah.edu have just right after >ACLIS Labs you need it. >585-9810 > > >"Paul H. Gray" wrote: >> >> Welcome to the real world -- where every major advance or undertaking in >> recent memory has happened because someone saw a chance to make a profit. >> The kind of undertaking you are talking about will happen only/if/when some >> creative soul finds a way to make money from doing it. >> SO - >> This is a great idea -- some of of you creative/greedy souls get busy :-) >> >> > On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: >> > >> > [...] >> > > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet >> > > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're >> > > trying to sell you something. >> > >> > The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. >> > >> > I do believe someone pointed out a site/service the other day that allowed >> > you to link to it with an ISBN as an argument, and that site would then >> > redirect you (based upon previously set preferences ala cookie) to >> > any one of a number of reference sites and/or booksellers. >> > >> http://www.linkbaton.com/ >> >> Currently, the only options for LinkBaton linking to books appear to be >> commercial, mainly online booksellers. >> >> There are many possibilities if you toss Library of Congress, Z39.50, >> local web-based catalogs, and a few others into the mix. >> >> I do believe linkbaton is open source, or soon to be. Unable to find any >> reference to it on the site. >> >> -jeff >> >> -- >> Jeff Godin >> Network Specialist >> Traverse Area District Library / Traverse Community Network >> jeff@tcnet.org - 231/932-8546 voice ------------------------------------------------------------------------- matthew.wilcox@yale.edu 203-785-5680 Karen Hartman Director James Monroe Center Library Mary Washington College 121 University Blvd. Fredericksburg, VA 22406 Tel 540.286.8057 Fax 540.296.8040 From patricia.livingston at corp.go.com Mon Mar 27 12:25:57 2000 From: patricia.livingston at corp.go.com (Patricia Livingston) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] We need an Internet Literary Database Message-ID: <9DFABE67AC49D2119BCE00A0C9D3367D02A74810@dime.infoseek.com> The first thing I thought of when I read this message is to link to a directory. Maybe it's because I work in the Directory at Go.com. :) http://www.go.com/WebDir/Books_and_literature or, example for a classic, http://www.go.com/WebDir/Melville_Herman. I did a search for literary databases and got http://www.colorado.edu/ITS/Digit/mayjune98/library.html. Don't have the time right now to evaluate, however. Patty -----Original Message----- From: Hanan Cohen [mailto:hanan@qglibrary.org.il] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 10:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] We need an Internet Literary Database By Jeffery Zeldman - http://www.zeldman.com/coming.html 26 March, 2000 [12:30 am] Every time we mention a book, we feel compelled to link to it, as we'd link to any other subject matter. Problem: With no comprehensive non-commercial book resources on the web, we inevitably end up linking to Amazon.com or a similar commercial resource, and that makes us feel like book pimps. Solution: The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're trying to sell you something. -- Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From bmenk at hampton.lib.nh.us Mon Mar 27 15:34:17 2000 From: bmenk at hampton.lib.nh.us (bmenk@hampton.lib.nh.us) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: Filemaker portal expertise solicited Message-ID: <101BC0A438C6@LIBRARY.HAMPTON.LIB.NH.US> I'm having some trouble getting data to display through a Filemaker portal using a web browser. (It works in Filemaker proper). Anyone have expertise in this area that they could afford to lend me? I'll explain the details off list so as not to bore non-Filemaker users to tears. Thanks in advance. Bobb Menk, Internet Librarian, Lane Memorial Library Hampton, NH 03842 603-926-3368 bmenk@hampton.lib.nh.us From daden at rain.org Mon Mar 27 16:48:13 2000 From: daden at rain.org (daden@rain.org) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: CD-Rom data disks Message-ID: <38DFD71D.713F8E7E@rain.org> Ventura County Library is the recipient of a number of Gates Grants. The Gates Foundation recommended the purchase of Gateway computers which would come configured with all the data disks from the CD programs loaded directly onto the hard drive. This eliminated the need for staff and customers to handle the CD data disks for each programs. Because we elected not to purchase Gateway computers, I have been unable to get any help in configuring our systems to find the data on the hard drive rather than to go to the CD drive. I created a separate partition on the hard drive and created files on the separate partition that had the same name as the volume name of the CD that was applicable to the program. Then I modified the target file on the desktop shortcut to point to the corresponding directory on the hard drive that contained the data and copied the executable file into it. This was not successful. The program executable is still looking to the CD Rom drive for the data. Any suggestions? Colleen White Ventura County Library From mclaughl at jfku.edu Mon Mar 27 16:03:07 2000 From: mclaughl at jfku.edu (Shelly Mclaughlin) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: JOB POSTING-SYSTEMS COORDINATOR Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000327150307.00838100@jfku.edu> >Subject: JOB POSTING-SYSTEMS COORDINATOR > >> >>> >>>SEARCH REOPENED >>> >>>> >>>>This is a great resume-building position for either a librarian or >experienced library assistant with solid systems abilities. Please note >that the benefits package has been upgraded. >>>> >>>Contact Ann Patterson, University Librarian at 925-258-2229 for further >information. >>>> >>>>LIBRARY SYSTEMS COORDINATOR >>>> >>>>Library Systems Coordinator, Robert M. Fisher Library, John F. Kennedy >University., Orinda. Regular, full-time position, 37.5 hours per week: >Monday - Friday 10 am - 6 pm. Salary range: $30,000 to $36,000 per year >plus a flexible benefit plan which includes medical, dental, vacation, sick >leave, 401(k) retirement plan, tuition waiver benefits and voluntary and/or >long term care insurance. >>>> >>>>The Library Systems Coordinator is the sole systems expert for the main >and three branch libraries’ integrated library system,Innovative Interfaces >Inc. (library.jfku.edu). This position also supports the networked >applications and PC-based functions and software at the main and two >branch libraries. This position is expected to provide leadership in >exploring and exploiting the potential of emerging technologies which >support scholarly and research needs of the university community. Regular >duties include extensive data analysis and report generation, ongoing >staff training and support, as well as maintenance of written and online >documentation. The Systems Coordinator recommends policy, procedures and >purchases. Unexpected systems problems or scheduled upgrades may require >occasional evening or early morning hours. >>>> >>>>The requirements of this position include a Masters degree in Library >Science or an equivalent combination of education and experience which >provides comparable knowledge and skills. Academic library experience is >preferred. Further requirements include working knowledge of UNIX, >Windows 95, Microsoft Office Suite, TCP/IP, Web applications, MARC, and >experience with an integrated library system, preferable Innovative >Interfaces Inc. Demonstrated ability in data analysis and report generation >also required. Knowledge of OCLC and Docline highly desirable. This >position requires excellent written and verbal communication skills >including the ability to communicate technical information to a broad range >of audiences. Additional requirements include a demonstrated ability to >manage shifting priorities and heavy workload while coping with interruptions. >>>> >>>>The successful candidate will initiate problem solving, work >independently and as a member of the library management team and will work >well with a diverse, adult constituency. >>>> >>>>The John F. Kennedy University Library System encompasses the main >library in Orinda and 2 small branches: the Business Library in Walnut >Creek and the Campbell Campus Library. System holdings include >approximately 68,000 books and 1,000 periodical titles, most of which are >held at the main library. The main library has 7 OPAC, 2 circulation and 14 >staff workstations. For more information on JFKU and the Library System, >check out our homepage at www.jfku.edu >>>> >>>>Position will remain open until filled. To apply, please sent a cover >letter, resume and three letters of recommendation to: >>>> >>>>PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT >>>>John F. Kennedy University >>>>12 Altarinda Road >>>>Orinda, CA 94563 >>>> >>>>John F. Kennedy University is an equal opportunity employer. The >university does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, national >origin, religion, age, marital status, gender, sexual orientation, veteran >status or physical condition. In a continuing effort to enrich its academic >environment and provide equal educational and employment opportunities, the >university actively encourages applications from members of all groups that >are underrepresented in higher education. >>>> >>>> >>>> >***************************************************************** >Claudia Chester E-mail: cchester@jfku.edu >Technical Services Librarian Phone: 925-258-2362 >Fisher Library FAX: 925-254-8136 >John F. Kennedy University >12 Altarinda Rd. >Orinda, CA 94563 >***************************************************************** > > From dspp at operamail.com Mon Mar 27 18:40:29 2000 From: dspp at operamail.com (D.S.P. Popeck) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: finding netscape versions (was netscape quitting) Message-ID: <38E52D8B@operamail.com> A good site for older versions of many different types of browsers: http://browsers.evolt.org/ DSP Popeck Lakewood Public Library - Madison Branch >===== Original Message From carole@leita.org ===== >The way to avoid all the Netscape Web pages hoo-hah, and yet get the >software from the official source, is to go directly to Netscape's FTP >site. From ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/ you can get versions >4.03 on - all flavors. From burfeind at the-bac.edu Mon Mar 27 19:42:55 2000 From: burfeind at the-bac.edu (Matthew S. Burfeind) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: We need an Internet Literary Database In-Reply-To: <000001bf9770$888349a0$903e1f26@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000327194255.013191c0@mail.the-bac.edu> At 02:18 PM 03/26/2000 -0800, Paul H. Gray wrote: >Welcome to the real world -- where every major advance or undertaking in >recent memory has happened because someone saw a chance to make a profit. >The kind of undertaking you are talking about will happen only/if/when some >creative soul finds a way to make money from doing it. >SO - >This is a great idea -- some of of you creative/greedy souls get busy :-) The ironic thing here is that the Internet Movies Database was NOT created as a for-profit venture. Far from it, in fact. The original databse was developed from FAQ files created by users of the usenet group rec.arts.movies. I was an avid user of the database in its pre-web days, when it used an e-mail interface (which apparently still exists). Check out http://us.imdb.com/Help/Oweek/history for the full story. -Matthew Burfeind > >> On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: >> >> [...] >> > The web needs an Internet Literary Database, similar to the Internet >> > Movie Database, so we can link to books without looking like we're >> > trying to sell you something. >> >> The irony bere being that IMDB is run by Amazon.com. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MATTHEW S. BURFEIND Boston Architectural Center 617.585.0235 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Tue Mar 28 00:43:40 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:53 2005 Subject: Why do children like big type? References: <001a01bf976d$99eae200$f2e8fea9@jakobdt> Message-ID: <38E0468C.5E24C99A@qglibrary.org.il> I am working in a library. We offer PC's for typing homework and PC's for web surfing. Here are some observations I have accumulated during my work here. I have noticed that children like to see BIG type on their screens and papers. When starting a new document, a child would first change the type size to 20 or more. Only then he/she would start typing. (The default type size in our templates is 12 points.) They want to "fill" the pages with their text. Whenever they can, children will change the screen resolution to 640X480. They like to see BIG text on their screen. They don't care that they see less information. They don't mind scrolling. They don't care the low-res is low-tech. It seems that when children see BIG, they feel that they get "more value". They "love" the opportunity to make things bigger, thus better. Because I am responsible for setting up the computers in the library, I have set them up according to MY preferences (hi-res=more information=small text). I have also designed the library's web site to be better seen using 800X600 (640X480 optional). I wonder if I should try to "educate" children to "see small" or setup the computers according to their preferences. (cross posted to chi-web and web4lib) -- Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From charta at inetdirect.net Tue Mar 28 08:19:24 2000 From: charta at inetdirect.net (Christopher Handy) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Finding Netscape API docs (was: finding netscape versions) In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000326060058.00d22e90@earthlink.net> Message-ID: At 01:36 AM 3/26/2000 -0800, Stacy Pober wrote: >Incidentally, when looking for older versions of Netscape to download, I >generally have the best luck in using a search engine like altavista >Some of the older versions are archived >on Netscape's site, but they bury the links so well, I get weary poking >around for them. It's easier to get a copy from another site. On a related subject: Netscape's site once contained a series of documents devoted to the "remote control" of Navigator on various platforms. I don't recall now the individual document titles, which were inconsistent and confusing, but something like Windows OLE API (for example) sounds vaguely familiar. In any event, a year or more ago I noticed that most of these documents, which had long been located in the directory http://home.netscape.com/newsref/std suddenly disappeared. The UNIX page (located at .../std/x-remote.html) was still there last time I looked, but the Windows and Mac versions are long gone. I've searched the site up and down and have emailed everyone I can think to contact at Netscape (including at least one programmer there who had provided information in the past) without success, and have given up hope of getting copies of these pages from the company. I notice that the UNIX document can be found elsewhere on the Internet, but not the documentation for the other platforms. At least nowhere I know of. But I wonder if any WEB4LIB subscribers have archived these lost documents (I'm especially interested in the file that was named: mac-remote-control.html). Thanks. Christopher Handy Indianapolis, Indiana Email: charta@inetdirect.net From morganj at iupui.edu Tue Mar 28 09:28:03 2000 From: morganj at iupui.edu (morganj@iupui.edu) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Why do children like big type? In-Reply-To: <38E0468C.5E24C99A@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: If you working in a library, you might take a look at your children's books. You'll find they also feature big print. I suspect it has somthing to do with ability to read and comprehend large amounts of dull text at one time: generally speaking librarians have had more training in this than six-year olds. Jim Morgan morganj@iupui.edu On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Hanan Cohen wrote: > I am working in a library. We offer PC's for typing homework and PC's > for web surfing. Here are some observations I have accumulated during my > work here. > > I have noticed that children like to see BIG type on their screens and > papers. > > When starting a new document, a child would first change the type size > to 20 or more. Only then he/she would start typing. (The default type > size in our templates is 12 points.) They want to "fill" the pages with > their text. > > Whenever they can, children will change the screen resolution to > 640X480. They like to see BIG text on their screen. They don't care that > they see less information. They don't mind scrolling. They don't care > the low-res is low-tech. > > It seems that when children see BIG, they feel that they get "more > value". They "love" the opportunity to make things bigger, thus better. > > Because I am responsible for setting up the computers in the library, I > have set them up according to MY preferences (hi-res=more > information=small text). I have also designed the library's web site to > be better seen using 800X600 (640X480 optional). > > I wonder if I should try to "educate" children to "see small" or setup > the computers according to their preferences. > > (cross posted to chi-web and web4lib) > -- > Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il > ***Love and Peace*** > From phgray at tccd.net Tue Mar 28 10:03:27 2000 From: phgray at tccd.net (Paul H. Gray) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Why do children like big type? In-Reply-To: <38E0468C.5E24C99A@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: <000001bf98c6$c5af2680$af3e1f26@oemcomputer> I'm sure there are some deeply scholarly studies on this subject - But I can't help recalling a trick my grandfather used to love to play on kids - offering us our choice of a great big shiny nickel -- or a little tiny dime And yes - up to the age we had come to learn better -- it worked every time. Being impressed by size would seem to be in our nature - SO - yes -- I guess if you want your children to stop enjoying large type type you will probably have to train them -- or just wait for them to outgrow it :-) Paul H. Gray TCCD Northeast Campus Library Hurst, TX (Yes - TEXAS -- where everything IS bigger -- AND better) :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Hanan Cohen > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:43 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Why do children like big type? > > > I am working in a library. We offer PC's for typing homework and PC's > for web surfing. Here are some observations I have accumulated during my > work here. > > I have noticed that children like to see BIG type on their screens and > papers. > . . . > It seems that when children see BIG, they feel that they get "more > value". They "love" the opportunity to make things bigger, thus better. From LPinkham at plcmc.lib.nc.us Tue Mar 28 10:44:15 2000 From: LPinkham at plcmc.lib.nc.us (Pinkham, Lida) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: StoryPlace - Exciting New Website!!! Message-ID: > The Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County recently unveiled > "StoryPlace: The Children's Digital Library" in English and Spanish. This > exciting and fun web site offers children and their caregivers the virtual > experience of visiting a children's library. Children are able to view > online stories, participate in fun games and activities, print out Take > Home activities and find great books to read. Currently there are five > different themes available to explore in the Pre-School Library and all > activities and stories are available in both English and Spanish. > > The Macromedia Flash 4.0 browser plug-in is required by computeres in > order to see and hear the animated stories and activities. Take a few > minutes today to explore StoryPlace: http://www.storyplace.org > > Lida Pinkham > Library Resource Trainer > Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County > Check out our family of websites: > http://www.plcmc.lib.nc.us/family/family.htm > > From rick at email.uc.edu Tue Mar 28 10:52:33 2000 From: rick at email.uc.edu (Richard Prairie) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Libraries -- information or misinformation sources? Message-ID: Dear web4lib members: I received the follwing message from another list to which I subscribe. Please at least carbon copy to info@turbopress.com any responses you have. Thank you, Richard Prairie From: SkeptInq@aol.com Subject: Libraries -- information or misinformation sources? To: CSICOP-ANNOUNCE@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:23:23 -0500 The New Zealand Skeptics have asked us to help. If you can provide any information please respond directly to them at: info@turbopress.com Greetings folks, I've been asked to challenge our local librarians with some brain food this week, and am thinking about seeing how they reconcile their mission of "informing the public with integrity and quality resourcing" and having vastly more pseudo-science materials on their shelves than any critiques thereof. I would be very grateful if anyone can point me to any useful thought pieces on such a topic. My committee here in NZ couldn't think of any material dealing with this, which is a little surprising given that it must be a pretty obvious target. I thought I'd start off with the idea that the library upgrades its resources as they become aware that they are lacking in certain areas, either by increasing the offerings in a particular subject area or by removing (deaccessioning!) material that is wrong and replacing it with better works. (I know they've done this recently with medieval clothing and cooking for example, where some particularly poor works have been quietly replaced by books that have real research in them...). I guess I'm looking to see if there are examples of where libraries have decided, for whatever reason, not to stock material and how they made those decisions. Not so much the "ban Noddy" type of PC decision-making, but more the ways in which libraries shape the information database they represent through selection of books. Anybody out there looked at the library shelves lately and wondered why astrology books outnumber astronomy? And should we care? Do we have a right to complain? I'd appreciate any suggestions, and I have until Thursday (your time) to come up with The Answer :-) Best regards, VIcki Hyde Chair entity NZCSICOP info@turbopress.com From jahb at lehigh.edu Tue Mar 28 11:10:26 2000 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Libraries -- information or misinformation sources? References: Message-ID: <38E0D972.C50D7BCB@lehigh.edu> > I guess I'm looking to see if there are examples of where libraries > have decided, for whatever reason, not to stock material and how > they made those decisions. Not so much the "ban Noddy" type of > PC decision-making, but more the ways in which libraries shape > the information database they represent through selection of books. > Anybody out there looked at the library shelves lately and > wondered why astrology books outnumber astronomy? And should > we care? Do we have a right to complain? Libraries stock their shelves to fit the needs of their clientele. That includes both subjects and reading levels. For instance, the reason that there are more astrology books on the shelves than astronomy books in public libraries, is because more people using public libraries care about astrology than about astronomy. Also, topics that are mostly covered by academic-level material are likely to be less well represented in public libraries: that's why there are fewer books on Linnaean classification in public libraries than there are on dogs! And more diet books than nutrition textbooks. Also, a lot of collections don't get overhauled often, and when they do, it's based on recommendations such as those from Library Journal. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Tue Mar 28 11:58:18 2000 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Finding Netscape API docs (was: finding netscape versions) References: Message-ID: <38E0E4AA.A77F43E0@am.appstate.edu> Can't tell you where they hid that but on a related topic, I received the following from Netscape Monday. Instead of upgrading their Client Customization Kit for newer versions of Netscape since 4.07. I'm not sure if Mission Control is still available or not yet. Netscape will now, for $50.00, create a Netscape setup to your specifications and send you the CD. The program that use to be the Education Agreement Program now is the Browser Distribution Program which I believe you can still become a free member. Since the release of the Client Customization Kit, they have only released one update which can only be used to customize Communicator and I think the Communicator version is 4.5 for that kit. I think this new program has to do with AOL's tie to SUN with Netscape now. The Browser Distribution Program was essentially targeting ISPs to create their own custom browser but it also replaced the Educational Agreement. Here is their announcement. Dear Browser Distribution Program Member, We've just launched the updated Netscape Browser Distribution program. As part of our regular communication to program members, we want you to know about an important new service that our program provides to help improve your user's experience while driving web traffic. Netscape is pleased to announce the new Communicator To Go service to quickly and inexpensively customize and duplicate a browser for your organization. With Communicator To Go, Netscape saves you time and money by creating a unique, customized browser on CD-ROM for as little as $50. Just tell us what you want customized and we'll create a browser that will open to your home page, display your company logo, and populate your bookmarks. It's simple. Build your business by letting us: ? Set the customizations you want. Your start page - your logo - your bookmarks - your mail settings - and many more! ? Make a custom CD-ROM master. ? Produce as many disks as you like. ? Develop the packaging you desire. Click on the link below to order your customized CDs and take advantage of Netscape's time saving Communicator To Go service. http://dms-www1.netcenter.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/mcp?p=63EoC03EoP54nYMG01200W2GBX_6 Click here http://dms-www1.netcenter.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/mcp?p=63Eo903EoP54nYMG01200W2GBX_6 toVisit our Web site to learn more about other innovative Netscape programs. You can look forward to more e-mails as well as a quarterly newsletter highlighting program developments with your Browser Distribution Program. Thank you, and we hope to continue serving your business needs. Sincerely, Netscape Netcenter We respect your online time and Internet privacy. If you'd prefernot to receive further marketing promotions from Netcenter, just click here: http://dms-www1.netcenter.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/mcp?p=63Eo534r23EoP54nYMG01200W2GBX_6 and follow the instructions, and we will promptly removeyour name from our mailing list. You are subscribed with: [tmgb@www.library.appstate.edu] Christopher Handy wrote: > > At 01:36 AM 3/26/2000 -0800, Stacy Pober wrote: > >Incidentally, when looking for older versions of Netscape to download, I > >generally have the best luck in using a search engine like altavista > > >Some of the older versions are archived > >on Netscape's site, but they bury the links so well, I get weary poking > >around for them. It's easier to get a copy from another site. > > On a related subject: > > Netscape's site once contained a series of documents devoted to the "remote > control" of Navigator on various platforms. I don't recall now the > individual document titles, which were inconsistent and confusing, but > something like Windows OLE API (for example) sounds vaguely familiar. > > In any event, a year or more ago I noticed that most of these documents, > which had long been located in the directory > > http://home.netscape.com/newsref/std > > suddenly disappeared. The UNIX page (located at .../std/x-remote.html) was > still there last time I looked, but the Windows and Mac versions are long > gone. I've searched the site up and down and have emailed everyone I can > think to contact at Netscape (including at least one programmer there who > had provided information in the past) without success, and have given up > hope of getting copies of these pages from the company. > > I notice that the UNIX document can be found elsewhere on the Internet, but > not the documentation for the other platforms. At least nowhere I know of. > But I wonder if any WEB4LIB subscribers have archived these lost documents > (I'm especially interested in the file that was named: > mac-remote-control.html). > > Thanks. > > Christopher Handy > Indianapolis, Indiana > Email: charta@inetdirect.net -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock and Rule Zope Rocks -- http://www.zope.org Python Rules -- http://www.python.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas McMillan Grant Bennett Appalachian State University Computer Consultant II University Library bennettt@am.appstate.edu http://www.library.appstate.edu/webmaster/ Voice: 828 262 6587 FAX: 828 262 3001 Windows 95 is a 32-bit extension to a 16-bit patch for an 8-bit operating system that was originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor. - Chris Dunphy Boot Magazine From riddle at is.rice.edu Tue Mar 28 12:22:08 2000 From: riddle at is.rice.edu (Prentiss Riddle) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Anybody looking at XML syndication, RSS or "weblogs"? Message-ID: <200003281722.LAA04637@is.rice.edu> This isn't strictly a library topic, but as usual when I run across an interesting puzzle, I immediately wonder what the digital librarians make of it. By popular demand I'm trying to think about the architecture of a "portal" site for my university (by which terribly overloaded term I believe people now mostly mean a site featuring extensive personalization and/or customization[1]). I'm convinced that the basic navigation backbone of our site wouldn't benefit much from customization, but there is a great deal of potential in customizing "news" -- the highlights and hot links that have become an increasingly important feature as various university communities have waked up to the web's ability to grab eyeballs. The question of collecting and distributing news items from many sources in a highly customizable fashion has led me to looking at XML syndication and Rich Site Summary (RSS). RSS is a standard for encoding "channels" of news items and announcements so they can be shared among web sites. The February, 2000 Web Techniques has an excellent summary of RSS.[2] A glance at some sites like My Netscape[3] and SlashDot[4] shows what can be done with RSS. Both let users create their own customized "newspapers" by selecting among channels of interest. Netscape is starting a Yahoo-like hierarchy of channels available to its users[5]. A more comprehensive site like Userland[6], though, shows that RSS syndication may have serious problems of scale: with hundreds (thousands?) of channels publishing news in RSS format on a weekly, daily or even hourly basis, a straightforward merge of everything in more than a handful of channels is quickly overwhelming. Complicating things further is the rise of "weblogs", the RSS analog of personal web pages[7]. Filtering and adding point of view is perhaps the main benefit of RSS, but when individuals with eclectic interests create channels, the result can be chaos. Perhaps there's a granularity issue here: maybe subscribing by channels is only the first step, and services should allow further filtering by keyword or by subject classification. Alas, if RSS provides a place to plug in classification information or controlled vocabulary keywords I don't see it, particularly not at the item level. Perhaps the answers lie not in RSS but in XML-News[8], ICE[9], or some other syndication standard. So, to bring this back to Web4Lib: anybody out there looking at XML syndication? Using it? Any insights on where this is going in general, or how it might best be applied to the problem of collecting and selecting news for a customized university portal? Thanks! -- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu -- Webmaster, Rice University / http://is.rice.edu/~riddle [1] For definitions of personalization and customization see: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/981004.html [2] http://www.webtechniques.com/archives/2000/02/eisenzopf/ [3] http://my.netscape.com/ [4] http://www.slashdot.org/ [5] http://dmoz.org/Netscape/My_Netscape_Network/ [6] http://my.userland.com/ [7] http://www.weblogs.com/about [8] http://www.xmlnews.org/ [9] http://www.webreference.com/xml/column5/5.html From phgray at tccd.net Tue Mar 28 12:28:23 2000 From: phgray at tccd.net (Paul H. Gray) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Libraries -- information or misinformation sources? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001bf98db$04c14ce0$403e1f26@oemcomputer> > The New Zealand Skeptics > > I've been asked to challenge our local librarians with some brain > food this week, and am thinking about seeing how they reconcile > their mission of "informing the public with integrity and quality > resourcing" and having vastly more pseudo-science materials on > their shelves than any critiques thereof. That's a good umbrella statement of the overall mission of libraries -- But individual libraries sponsored by individual governemental entities; schools; corporations etc. have their own unique missions. As already mentioned by others -- this mission will usually involve the meeting of needs/desires of their specific 'community' We - for instance are an academic library with a mandate to support the intstructional programs offered by the college. So - we do indeed have more books on astronomy than astrology -- and almost none on medieval clothing :-) We might love to add other books - and do from time to time -- But -- funding being what it is -- we have to concentrate on those areas that meet our primary mandate. > . . . > And should we care? We should ALWAYS care about the quality of the institutions we support and/or are a part of > Do we have a right to complain? We always have a right to complain - - one of our most treasured rights here in the States. Now - whether we have a right to expect our complaint to have any impact -- is another question and poses a couple of others: Are you a member of the community being served by this libarary? Do you contribute funds to support this library? Are you a member of the staff of this library with responsibilities in the area of collection development? If the answer to all of these questions is no -- then you are, in effect complaining about how someone else chooses to tend to their business -- a delightful pursuit -- but ultimately not really anything we have a right to expect them to listen to. Opinions are my own - and all other standard disclaimers - Paul H. Gray TCCD Northeast Campus Library Hurst, TX From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Tue Mar 28 12:41:57 2000 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Libraries -- information or misinformation sources? References: Message-ID: <38E0EEE5.3E997D34@cdrewu.edu> Richard Prairie wrote: > Dear web4lib members: > > I received the follwing message from another list to which I subscribe. > Please at least carbon copy to info@turbopress.com any responses you have. > > > From: SkeptInq@aol.com > Subject: Libraries -- information or misinformation sources? > To: CSICOP-ANNOUNCE@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:23:23 -0500 > > The New Zealand Skeptics have asked us to help. If you can provide any > information please respond directly to them at: > Anybody out there looked at the library shelves lately and > wondered why astrology books outnumber astronomy? In general, has anyone looked at the library shelves and wondered why books on "X" outnumber books on "Y"? Hopefully it's because the collection development librarians, using information based on patron requests, checkout frequency, and similar sources of information, have acted upon that information in choosing what books to purchase, and what subjects to cover. (Of course, there is the occasional outside political involvement/influence, and the usual problems of limited funding and space...) > And should we care? Depends on who "we" is. CSICOP? Most likely. Other individuals and groups? I guess if they can be convinced...get in line with the rest of the governmental agencies, corporations, advocacy groups and such yelling at us to do this, don't do that, buy this, don't buy that, give here, pray there, vote yes on X, vote no on Y, etc. . . > Do we have a right to complain? Most libraries have some sort of procedure for individuals to address concerns about the collection. Please note though that librarians in general are real resistant to start pulling books out of the collection simply because someone is offended. There is a difference between, say, removing some old science textbooks that have phrases in them, such as "Man shall walk on the moon someday" and "10 years from now, television will be common in every home", and removing/ not acquiring books on astrology because some group considers them "pseudoscientific". We go through this occasionally with religious and ethnic advocacy groups up in arms about one book or another. Also applies to Internet filters and such too. Of course, all of what I said is based on practice in public libraries in the United States. Other library types, or other jurisdictions may have different laws, rules and standards. -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/lib_home.htm From webermi at alvernia.edu Tue Mar 28 13:35:27 2000 From: webermi at alvernia.edu (Michael A. Weber) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Link-Checking and Fonts Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000328133527.007c4df0@204.143.7.3> Hello web enthusiasts: I need help with two things: 1) I'd like to check the links on my website. 2) I need to purchase fonts for my MS software. 1) LINK-CHECKING I believe that there are link-checking software programs and link-checking sites on the web. Could someone please direct me to these? I believe that one of the websites is bobbie. Of course when I put in www.bobbie.com I definitely did not get what I wanted! 2) FONTS I am looking to purchase some additionals MS fonts for photoshop. I also need some postscripting fonts,(Whatever they are!) to convert Pagemaker files into PDF files. Any suggestions? Mike Weber Michael Weber Dr. Frank A. Franco Library ALVERNIA COLLEGE 400 St. Bernardine Street Reading PA 19518 (610) 796-8352 (610) 796-8347 Fax webermi@alvernia.edu From jablack at indiana.edu Tue Mar 28 13:58:51 2000 From: jablack at indiana.edu (Joetta A. Black) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Link-Checking and Fonts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000328133527.007c4df0@204.143.7.3> Message-ID: Bobby is at http://www.cast.org/bobby/ On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Michael A. Weber wrote: > Hello web enthusiasts: > > I need help with two things: > 1) I'd like to check the links on my website. > 2) I need to purchase fonts for my MS software. > > 1) LINK-CHECKING > > I believe that there are link-checking software programs and link-checking > sites on the web. Could someone please direct me to these? I believe that > one of the websites is bobbie. Of course when I put in www.bobbie.com I > definitely did not get what I wanted! > > 2) FONTS > > I am looking to purchase some additionals MS fonts for photoshop. I also > need some postscripting fonts,(Whatever they are!) to convert Pagemaker > files into PDF files. Any suggestions? > > Mike Weber > Michael Weber > Dr. Frank A. Franco Library > ALVERNIA COLLEGE > 400 St. Bernardine Street > Reading PA 19518 > (610) 796-8352 > (610) 796-8347 Fax > webermi@alvernia.edu > ================================================================ Joetta Black Library Information Technology Service Center Coordinator Main Library E456 812-855-8601 Indiana University jablack@indiana.edu Bloomington, Indiana 47405 ================================================================ From morganj at iupui.edu Tue Mar 28 14:09:33 2000 From: morganj at iupui.edu (morganj@iupui.edu) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Link-Checking and Fonts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000328133527.007c4df0@204.143.7.3> Message-ID: There's a free checker at www.netmechanic.com. For more extensive sites they sell a pro version. We've been happy with Linkbot, and it's received a number of favorable reviews - see http://www.tetranetsoftware.com/ Jim Morgan morganj@iupui.edu On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Michael A. Weber wrote: > Hello web enthusiasts: > > I need help with two things: > 1) I'd like to check the links on my website. > 2) I need to purchase fonts for my MS software. > > 1) LINK-CHECKING > > I believe that there are link-checking software programs and link-checking > sites on the web. Could someone please direct me to these? I believe that > one of the websites is bobbie. Of course when I put in www.bobbie.com I > definitely did not get what I wanted! > > 2) FONTS > > I am looking to purchase some additionals MS fonts for photoshop. I also > need some postscripting fonts,(Whatever they are!) to convert Pagemaker > files into PDF files. Any suggestions? > > Mike Weber > Michael Weber > Dr. Frank A. Franco Library > ALVERNIA COLLEGE > 400 St. Bernardine Street > Reading PA 19518 > (610) 796-8352 > (610) 796-8347 Fax > webermi@alvernia.edu > From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 28 14:11:49 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Web4Lib Policy Change Message-ID: Today the Web4Lib Advisory Board added the following policy: "6. The preferred format for list messages is plain text. Subscribers whose mail clients default to other formats such as HTML should configure them to send plain text when posting to the list. Sending MIME file attachments of any kind is discouraged because they cannot be read by subscribers with plain text mail clients. Attaching files that are capable of carrying viruses, Trojan horses, or any other malicious code is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, executable files (such as DOS/Windows .exe and .com files) and MS-Office files such as Word documents. The total size of any message should not exceed 10k." The statement regarding enforcement of list policy was also changed to read "These policies will be enforced by the Web4Lib Advisory Board" since we now need some flexibility in enforcing the Web4Lib policy. For those of you who don't recall, the Web4Lib Advisory Board is: Roy Tennant - rtennant@library.berkeley.edu, Chair Thomas Dowling - tdowling@ohiolink.edu Karen Schneider - kgs@bluehighways.com Bernie Sloan - bernies@uillinois.edu Meanwhile, I would like to remind list readers that Policy #1 is that all messages must relate to the topic of web systems and libraries. A few individuals have been rather sloppy about this lately. Thank you all for your cooperation. Roy Tennant Web4Lib Owner From corys at athabascau.ca Tue Mar 28 14:31:51 2000 From: corys at athabascau.ca (Cory Stier) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Link-Checking and Fonts References: Message-ID: <005e01bf98ec$56fba760$e506e883@lib.athabascau.ca> I use a freeware link checker called Xenu. It checks all the pages on our site to make sure that the links to external web pages are still live. The URL of the site to download Xenu from is: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html. I've found it to be a reliable program, and I especially like having the option to export the link report as a tab delimited file. Cory Stier Library Gateway Developer Athabasca University Library 1 University Drive Athabasca, Alberta, Canada T9S 3A3 Phone: (780) 675-6486 Toll-free: (800) 788-9041 ext. 6486 In Calgary: 263-6465 ext. 6486 In Edmonton: 421-8700 ext. 6486 Fax: (780) 675-6477 E-mail: corys@athabascau.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:10 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Link-Checking and Fonts > There's a free checker at www.netmechanic.com. For more extensive sites > they sell a pro version. We've been happy with Linkbot, and it's > received a number of favorable reviews - see > http://www.tetranetsoftware.com/ > > Jim Morgan > morganj@iupui.edu > > > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Michael A. Weber wrote: > > > Hello web enthusiasts: > > > > I need help with two things: > > 1) I'd like to check the links on my website. > > 2) I need to purchase fonts for my MS software. > > > > 1) LINK-CHECKING > > > > I believe that there are link-checking software programs and link-checking > > sites on the web. Could someone please direct me to these? I believe that > > one of the websites is bobbie. Of course when I put in www.bobbie.com I > > definitely did not get what I wanted! > > > > 2) FONTS > > > > I am looking to purchase some additionals MS fonts for photoshop. I also > > need some postscripting fonts,(Whatever they are!) to convert Pagemaker > > files into PDF files. Any suggestions? > > > > Mike Weber > > Michael Weber > > Dr. Frank A. Franco Library > > ALVERNIA COLLEGE > > 400 St. Bernardine Street > > Reading PA 19518 > > (610) 796-8352 > > (610) 796-8347 Fax > > webermi@alvernia.edu > > > From kimlord at suffield-library.org Tue Mar 28 15:28:43 2000 From: kimlord at suffield-library.org (Kim Lord) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Why do children like big type? In-Reply-To: <000001bf98c6$c5af2680$af3e1f26@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <200003281529406.SM00385@reference> I have found too, with kids that are still fairly young but have papers to do they seem to think they can get past the page requirement by making the type bigger. The first time they pass in a 2 page paper with 20 font is usually the last time it happens though. (kids around 5 grade or so.) Kim Lord Kent Library Suffield CT. >> I am working in a library. We offer PC's for typing homework and PC's >> for web surfing. Here are some observations I have accumulated during my >> work here. >> >> I have noticed that children like to see BIG type on their screens and >> papers. >> . . . >> It seems that when children see BIG, they feel that they get "more >> value". They "love" the opportunity to make things bigger, thus better. > From koliver at mail.jhmi.edu Tue Mar 28 15:56:28 2000 From: koliver at mail.jhmi.edu (Kate Oliver) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Librarians and Information Technologists Sought at Johns Hopkins' Welch Medical Library and Division of Biomedical Information Sciences Message-ID: EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES for LIBRARIANS and INFORMATION TECHNOLOGISTS The William H. Welch Medical Library and Division of Biomedical Information Sciences, affiliated with the Johns Hopkins University and led by Nancy K. Roderer, who comes to Welch from Yale University and the National Library of Medicine, is one of the country's top medical libraries. Welch Library has a strong history of innovation in technology and service at a world-renowned institution and leader in clinical care, teaching and research. The Library is currently seeking qualified librarians to join the Library's staff for future growth: - Education Librarian - Plans, develops curriculum, and teaches courses offered by the Library and the Division of Biomedical Information Science, as well as some outreach responsibilities for acting as library liaison to assigned JHMI departments and programs offering information services and instruction to faculty, staff, and students in their primary work context. (Job #00M2445) - Reference Librarian - Provides service at the reference desks at the Library and its satellite library locations in the Schools of Medicine, Nursing, and Public Health, as well as some outreach responsibilities for acting at library liaison to assigned JHMI departments and programs offering information services and instruction to faculty, staff, and students in their primary work context. (Job #00M2442) - Liaison Librarian - Serves as liaison to JHMI departments and programs with the goal of the successful transfer of literature-based information to research, teaching and clinical practice by providing professional information management consultation to faculty, staff, and students in their primary work context, and by acting as an advocate for their assigned programs information and information services needs. (Job #00M2441) - Internet Services Librarian - Acts as webmaster of the library's web site including content development and maintenance. Is responsible for the successful technical functioning of the site, and for facilitating the technical competence of web content contributors. (Job #00M2444) - Electronic Resources Librarian - Coordinates the selection, organization and presentation of new or updated packages of electronic databases, e-journals or e-textbooks; will monitor and evaluate usage and easy access to electronic resources and will educate patrons about limitations of licenses. (Job #00M2443) The University offers an excellent benefits package, including a customized choice of health care plans, an exceptional retirement plan, 22 vacation days per year, and educational assistance programs for staff and their dependents. Minimum salary range for Librarians is $37,800 to $42,900, based on experience. Qualified applicants for Librarian positions must have an MLS from an ALA-accredited library school. Prior history of progressive library experience, especially in an academic health or bioscience library is preferred. Experience with the application of technology to information management problems is essential. Additional requirements, full position descriptions and more information about the William H. Welch Medical Library can be found on our web site at: http://www.welch.jhu.edu/about/jobs/ Qualified candidates should send a letter of application and CV to Lyndie Vantine, Senior Human Resources Coordinator, Welch Medical Library, 1900 E. Monument Street, Baltimore, MD 21205 E/O/E M/F/H The Johns Hopkins' Welch Medical Library and Division of Biomedical Information Sciences also seeks applicants for three information technology positions: Web System Administrator http://infonet.welch.jhu.edu/admin/jobs/jobs.cgi/show?num=M00-2416 Network Analyst http://infonet.welch.jhu.edu/admin/jobs/jobs.cgi/show?num=M00-2415 Sr. Programmer/Analyst http://infonet.welch.jhu.edu/admin/jobs/jobs.cgi/show?num=M00-2413 From lawrencv at OHSU.EDU Tue Mar 28 16:21:33 2000 From: lawrencv at OHSU.EDU (Valerie Lawrence) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Why do children like big type? In-Reply-To: <200003281529406.SM00385@reference> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Kim Lord wrote: > I have found too, with kids that are still fairly young but have papers to > do they seem to think they can get past > the page requirement by making the type bigger. The first time they pass > in a 2 page paper with 20 font is usually the last time > it happens though. (kids around 5 grade or so.) Grade 5 and on up -- I have seen assignments where professors at the post-secondary level have had to *specify* that the type font should be no larger than 12 point. :-P Val Valerie Lawrence, MLS, Assistant Librarian Western States Chiropractic College 2900 NE 132nd Ave. Voice (503)251-5756 Portland, OR 97230 Fax (503)251-5759 Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. Goodness knows why they hired me. From hanan at qglibrary.org.il Tue Mar 28 15:21:28 2000 From: hanan at qglibrary.org.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Link-Checking and Fonts References: <3.0.5.32.20000328133527.007c4df0@204.143.7.3> Message-ID: <38E11448.EF75762A@qglibrary.org.il> "Michael A. Weber" wrote: > I am looking to purchase some additionals MS fonts for photoshop. You are looking for TrueType fonts which were actually developed by Apple and NOT by MS. Read more about it in http://www.truetype.demon.co.uk/tthist.htm Go to AskJeeves and ask "purchase true type fonts". > I also need some postscripting fonts Go to Google and ask "convert true type postscript" -- Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.oth.il ***Love and Peace*** From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Tue Mar 28 15:47:57 2000 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Thomas Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: Netscape Bookmarks disappeared Message-ID: <38E11A7D.F4FFF0A0@anaheim.lib.ca.us> All the bookmarks on one of my Reference Desk computers disappeared today. Last time this happened I was able to copy from my bookmark backup floppy disk and restore the bookmards from the last update. Today, the PC is not maintaining any changes I make to the bookmark file. I even went so far as to uninstall and reinstall the browser, but that did not change the results. Even more puzzling is when I make I add a bookmark to Netscape, exit the program and then go back in, the change I made is gone. I checked the properties in all the bookmark.html files I could find, and none of them say read only. In fact, I removed the archive property, but that did not make any difference. I am at a loss over what to do. Tom Edelblute Anaheim Public Library From limk at pls.lib.ca.us Tue Mar 28 17:39:17 2000 From: limk at pls.lib.ca.us (Kim Lim) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Link-Checking and Fonts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000328133527.007c4df0@204.143.7.3> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Michael A. Weber wrote: > Hello web enthusiasts: > > I need help with two things: > 1) I'd like to check the links on my website. > 2) I need to purchase fonts for my MS software. > > 1) LINK-CHECKING > > I believe that there are link-checking software programs and link-checking > sites on the web. Could someone please direct me to these? I believe that > one of the websites is bobbie. Of course when I put in www.bobbie.com I > definitely did not get what I wanted! > Try http://netmechanic.com/ It is free and easy to work with. From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Tue Mar 28 20:22:21 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: "Talk to a Librarian" services -- survey Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B455@mail1.morrisville.edu> I am compiling data and ideas to improve our real time service for remote users called "Talk to a Librarian". It uses AOL Instant Messenger. For details on this service go to: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/talk.html Below is a very short survey. If your college or university library has a similar service or is thinking of starting one, please take a few minutes to answer the questions. I will compile them and report back with the results. 1. What do you call your service? 2. What software does it use? 3. Does it require special software on the remote user's machine? (If so, what?) 4. Who responds to queries (e.g.; reference desk or other service point)? 5. What hours is the service available? 6. How many queries do you get in a typical week? 7. Is this service accessible via your webpages (e.g.; click on a link and it starts up?) 8. Please give me a URL to see this service: 9. URL of Library webpage: 10: Your name/e-mail address ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. From plum at ulink.net Tue Mar 28 20:40:58 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:54 2005 Subject: If Monopoly hadn't been used... References: Message-ID: <005d01bf991f$d580fee0$b114a0d1@ycxfssto> If cries of Monopoly hadn't been lobbed against Microsoft, we might not have any discussions about the shortcomings of a browser that was once known as Netscape. Maybe we'd all be including XML in our pages. And maybe I'd better get back to work... From lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Tue Mar 28 22:31:33 2000 From: lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:55 2005 Subject: Internet Ethics/Privacy in the Workplace Message-ID: Hello. I am from a regional library system in Illinois where we serve 300 libraries of all types with various services. We are looking for information on and possible speakers for Internet ethics/privacy in the workplace. Do any of you have policies in place for what employees can/can't do in the workplace on the Internet-limit the sites they go to-check the sites they go to? Have any of you had any problem? Do you have policies in place? Are any of you willing to speak on this issue or done some research in this area? You could respond to my e-mail address if so. Thanks very much. Lori Bell Automation/Technology Department Alliance Library System 845 Brenkman Drive Pekin, IL 61554 phone: (309)353-4110 fax: (309)353-8281 lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us From lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Tue Mar 28 22:34:52 2000 From: lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:55 2005 Subject: HumanClick Gives Your Site the Human Touch (fwd) Message-ID: This is a free ware site that allows you to offer service over the Internet for free. There is a very similar site called Live Person www.liveperson.com that charges but which provides very good training and some good reporting options on questions answered, where they came from, etc. if you wish to offer live reference service. Live Person will give you a free demo too; you can send graphics and linkable urls in the chat box conversation with your patron. I hope this helps. Human Click address and demo http://netconference.about.com/internet/netconference/library/weekly/aa031500a.htm?PM=71_101_T ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jenny Levine 125 Tower Drive Internet Development Specialist Burr Ridge, IL 60521 Suburban Library System +1 (630) 734 5141 http://www.sls.lib.il.us/ levinej@sls.lib.il.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000328/7effe1e5/attachment.htm From ian.winship at unn.ac.uk Wed Mar 29 03:38:34 2000 From: ian.winship at unn.ac.uk (Ian Winship) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Link-Checking and Fonts Message-ID: <8B9456EC34D6D2118FEF00805FEA3B4D021864E5@central.unn.ac.uk> Michael A. Weber wrote: > 1) LINK-CHECKING > > I believe that there are link-checking software programs and > link-checking sites on the web. Could someone please direct me to these? I recommend LinkAlarm (http://linkalarm.com/) Its not free - one cent a page with some initial free use - but is a good service to help keep control of large sites. You can set it up to check pages as frequently as you want and have reports emailed to whoever is responsible for the page. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ian Winship Information Services, University of Northumbria at Newcastle City Campus Library, Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 8ST, UK ---------------- e-mail: ian.winship@unn.ac.uk phone: 0191 227 4150 fax: 0191 227 4563 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Wed Mar 29 09:38:59 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: More information on "Talk to a Librarian" Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B45E@mail1.morrisville.edu> I gotten several queries asking for more information on our "Talk to a Librarian" service. To begin with, many are wondering how we can ask users to install software on their computers. I did a survey of one of our larger laptop program classes. Out of the 30 students laptop users sampled, 26 had AOL Instant Messenger already installed on their computers. Staffing is not a real issue with this service. It is staffed by whom ever happens to be on the reference desk. All of the librarians really like it (5 full time and 2 part time). When no one is at the desk (usually during college breaks) I run it from my laptop in my office. We also use e-mail as a back up. ----- Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference SUNY Morrisville College Library drewwe@morrisville.edu Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ Have Laptop -- Will Travel. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sunala.gif Type: image/gif Size: 1756 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000329/12b41963/sunala.gif From lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Wed Mar 29 10:20:15 2000 From: lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] More information on "Talk to a Librarian" In-Reply-To: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B45E@mail1.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: With quick click and Live Person (www.liveperson.com) there is no software required on the browser's end. The operator/librarian can be anywhere and someone using the internet can be anywhere go to that site, pop a window open if they need help. If no one is on duty, they can leave an e-mail. Lori Bell Automation/Technology Department Alliance Library System 845 Brenkman Drive Pekin, IL 61554 phone: (309)353-4110 fax: (309)353-8281 lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Drew, Bill wrote: > I gotten several queries asking for more information on our "Talk to a > Librarian" service. > > To begin with, many are wondering how we can ask users to install software > on their computers. I did a survey of one of our larger laptop program > classes. Out of the 30 students laptop users sampled, 26 had AOL Instant > Messenger already installed on their computers. > > Staffing is not a real issue with this service. It is staffed by whom ever > happens to be on the reference desk. All of the librarians really like it > (5 full time and 2 part time). When no one is at the desk (usually during > college breaks) I run it from my laptop in my office. We also use e-mail as > a back up. > > > ----- > Wilfred (Bill) Drew > Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > SUNY Morrisville College Library > drewwe@morrisville.edu > Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe > > Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > > Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > > Have Laptop -- Will Travel. > > > > From jahb at lehigh.edu Wed Mar 29 10:41:15 2000 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] If Monopoly hadn't been used... References: <005d01bf991f$d580fee0$b114a0d1@ycxfssto> Message-ID: <38E2241B.7800FD5B@lehigh.edu> Nancy Sosna Bohm wrote: > > If cries of Monopoly hadn't been lobbed against Microsoft, we might not have > any discussions about the shortcomings of a browser that was once known as > Netscape. Maybe we'd all be including XML in our pages. And maybe I'd > better get back to work... Of course, if we didn't have trouble reading Office 2000 documents saved as HTML in Netscape, maybe nobody would have had to cry Monopoly. -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Wed Mar 29 10:51:04 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More information on "Talk to a Librarian" Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B462@mail1.morrisville.edu> I just went to the livepersons site. The initial set up fee is $1000 and the $250 for each operator. Pricey. I like HumanClick but object strongly to the monitoring side of it. Plus someone at HumanClick can initiate conversations with anyone using a webpage with HumanClick embedded in it. Much too intrusive for my taste. Bill Drew From Carole.J.Richter.8 at nd.edu Wed Mar 29 10:53:56 2000 From: Carole.J.Richter.8 at nd.edu (Carole Richter) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More information on "Talk to a Librarian" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000329105356.0098e590@nd.edu> Lori, I'm very curious about the software you mention. At the site, I found information indicating that there is some cost involved in providing the service (LivePerson is inexpensive to install and maintain. Clients pay only a nominal, one-time setup fee and a low, monthly fee per operator for the service. ) Also, because the service is maintained by a company on a remote server, I'm wondering if they are tracking users, names, addresses etc for any kind of marketing list availability? Not to sound paranoid...! Anyhow, it does look very interesting, but I am wondering if you've used it, more about cost, etc. At 07:22 AM 3/29/2000 -0800, Lori Bell wrote: >With quick click and Live Person (www.liveperson.com) there is no software >required on the browser's end. The operator/librarian can be anywhere and >someone using the internet can be anywhere go to that site, pop a window >open if they need help. If no one is on duty, they can leave an e-mail. > >Lori Bell >Automation/Technology Department >Alliance Library System >845 Brenkman Drive >Pekin, IL 61554 >phone: (309)353-4110 >fax: (309)353-8281 >lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us > >On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Drew, Bill wrote: > >> I gotten several queries asking for more information on our "Talk to a >> Librarian" service. >> >> To begin with, many are wondering how we can ask users to install software >> on their computers. I did a survey of one of our larger laptop program >> classes. Out of the 30 students laptop users sampled, 26 had AOL Instant >> Messenger already installed on their computers. >> >> Staffing is not a real issue with this service. It is staffed by whom ever >> happens to be on the reference desk. All of the librarians really like it >> (5 full time and 2 part time). When no one is at the desk (usually during >> college breaks) I run it from my laptop in my office. We also use e-mail as >> a back up. >> >> >> ----- >> Wilfred (Bill) Drew >> Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference >> SUNY Morrisville College Library >> drewwe@morrisville.edu >> Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe >> >> Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ >> >> Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ >> >> Have Laptop -- Will Travel. >> >> >> >> > > Carole Richter Electronic Resources Coordinator University of Notre Dame Libraries (219)631-8405 richter.8@nd.edu From lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us Wed Mar 29 11:02:50 2000 From: lbell at darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More information on "Talk to a Librarian" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000329105356.0098e590@nd.edu> Message-ID: We have received training and are looking into it. It is now $1000 to set up and $250 per month per operator seat or per person "working the desk." They keep very detailed statistics for your benefit, but they also have a very stringent privacy policy from what I have been able to see. They should not be able to use that information for their benefit. If you would like an email address I can give you one, or you can go to their site and click on the live person icon and ask detailed information. If the person on duty cannot answer, you leave your email or phone number and they get right back to you. I have found them to be very concerned with service; we had a great training session and when we have called with questions, have always even gotten a "live person" on the phone. We thought about using this as a reference service for "after hours" or for people who were on the web and could not call with questions because their phone line was being used on the web. There are already commercial sites answering questions typically answered by librarians for a charge. There is webhelp.com. There, you can get free service, but you are on a higher priority if you give them your credit card. I think each search is 99 cents. There is another service like that called Quick Clue. We liked live person because it is on their server, not on ours, and users did not have to have a special piece of software to use the service. Lori Bell Automation/Technology Department Alliance Library System 845 Brenkman Drive Pekin, IL 61554 phone: (309)353-4110 fax: (309)353-8281 lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Carole Richter wrote: > Lori, > I'm very curious about the software you mention. At the site, I found > information indicating that there is some cost involved in providing the > service (LivePerson is inexpensive to install and maintain. Clients pay > only a nominal, one-time setup fee and a low, monthly fee per operator for > the service. ) > Also, because the service is maintained by a company on a remote server, > I'm wondering if they are tracking users, names, addresses etc for any kind > of marketing list availability? Not to sound paranoid...! > Anyhow, it does look very interesting, but I am wondering if you've used > it, more about cost, etc. > > > At 07:22 AM 3/29/2000 -0800, Lori Bell wrote: > >With quick click and Live Person (www.liveperson.com) there is no software > >required on the browser's end. The operator/librarian can be anywhere and > >someone using the internet can be anywhere go to that site, pop a window > >open if they need help. If no one is on duty, they can leave an e-mail. > > > >Lori Bell > >Automation/Technology Department > >Alliance Library System > >845 Brenkman Drive > >Pekin, IL 61554 > >phone: (309)353-4110 > >fax: (309)353-8281 > >lbell@darkstar.rsa.lib.il.us > > > >On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Drew, Bill wrote: > > > >> I gotten several queries asking for more information on our "Talk to a > >> Librarian" service. > >> > >> To begin with, many are wondering how we can ask users to install software > >> on their computers. I did a survey of one of our larger laptop program > >> classes. Out of the 30 students laptop users sampled, 26 had AOL Instant > >> Messenger already installed on their computers. > >> > >> Staffing is not a real issue with this service. It is staffed by whom ever > >> happens to be on the reference desk. All of the librarians really like it > >> (5 full time and 2 part time). When no one is at the desk (usually during > >> college breaks) I run it from my laptop in my office. We also use > e-mail as > >> a back up. > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Wilfred (Bill) Drew > >> Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference > >> SUNY Morrisville College Library > >> drewwe@morrisville.edu > >> Home: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe > >> > >> Not Just Cows: http://www.morrisville.edu/~drewwe/njc/ > >> > >> Library: http://www.morrisville.edu/library/ > >> > >> Have Laptop -- Will Travel. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Carole Richter > Electronic Resources Coordinator > University of Notre Dame Libraries > (219)631-8405 > richter.8@nd.edu > From bill at aztec.lib.utk.edu Wed Mar 29 11:19:09 2000 From: bill at aztec.lib.utk.edu (Bill Britten) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Great Systems Librn opportunity at U of Tennessee Message-ID: <005b01bf999a$83c36fe0$9729a980@lib.utk.edu> Folks - You may have seen this job opening posted about a month ago, or on another list, but I'm urging you to take a look now, or take another look. The salary is very competitive, especially given the low cost of living in Knoxville. UTK Libraries is a great environment to work in ... we have a flat organization that emphasizes team and personal autonomy, and we have a very generous professional travel budget. My personal philosophy is to mold the job to a person's skills as much as possible, and I encourage open and free discussions on our priorities and goals within the Systems Team. There are 10 of us in the Systems Team, and we have a lot of fun. If the position description below fits your career goals and seems to be even close to a match with your experience, please take a shot at it! Frankly, I need to broaden the applicant pool. If you would like to email or call me to discuss the position, please do so ... I'm a very informal person and would be happy to answer any questions. thanks, Bill Britten Head of Systems University of Tennessee Libraries 423-974-1082 423-974-0626 (fax) ANNOUNCEMENT OF PROFESSIONAL VACANCY POSITION: Coordinator for Networked Service Integration APPOINTMENT RANK: Assistant or Associate Professor SALARY: Assistant Professor minimum $45,000 Associate Professor minimum $52,000 AVAILABLE: August 1, 2000 RESPONSIBILITIES: The Coordinator for Networked Service Integration works within the Systems Team and reports to the Head. This position is one of four faculty positions in the Systems Team, along with six permanent staff positions. Systems is a service-oriented team that develops, maintains, and supports an array of networked services as well as the Libraries' widely distributed information technology infrastructure. As a member of the Systems Team, this position is expected to provide leadership in the planning and development of technology-based user services as outlined below. Participating in an environment of Library-wide collaboration, and in a collegial atmosphere within the Systems Team, this person will: coordinate UTK Libraries web-based services; implement UTK Libraries web catalog interface (currently OCLC SiteSearch interface to epixtech Horizon database); implement interfaces to remote catalogs (e.g. Law Library, Information Alliance); work with other Library teams to initiate network services that form our "patron empowerment" strategy; maximize the interoperability of our many systems; participate in a team-based implementation of our integrated library system; interact with campus computing units and technology vendors; may involve supervision. QUALIFICATIONS: Required: MLS from an ALA-accredited institution. Relevant professional-level technology experience (academic library preferred). Evidence of excellent written and oral communication skills and ability to work collegially. Demonstrated experience managing complex projects. Demonstrated ability with one or more of the following programming environments: Java, SQL, Perl, C++ or similar level language. Understanding of network standards and protocols. Knowledge of developments and trends in information systems. Preferred: Knowledge of the Z39.50 standard. Demonstrated familiarity with UNIX server environment. Experience with an integrated library system. Experience with OCLC SiteSearch software. The UTK Libraries is a U.S. selective federal depository and one of Tennessee's six state depository libraries. The Map Library serves as the Earth Sciences Information Center for the state and was a participant in the ARL-GIS project. BENEFITS: Librarians at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville have faculty rank and status and are appointed for twelve months. This is a tenure track appointment. Library faculty must meet University requirements for promotion and tenure. Annual leave is accrued at the rate of two days per month and sick leave at the rate of one day per month. Faculty have their choice of a state retirement plan or TIAA/CREF. Non-refundable contributions to either retirement plan are paid for the employee by the University. Group health and life insurance plans are available. Tuition remission is available for all university employees; partial undergraduate tuition remission is available to dependent children and spouses of UT employees. ENVIRONMENT: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, a Carnegie Research Level One institution, enrolls approximately 26,000 students from every state in the United States and approximately 100 other countries. As Tennessee's comprehensive campus, UTK offers more doctoral programs than any other institution in the state, and its faculty attract nearly $80 million annually for sponsored research programs. UTK is on of 27 higher education institutions holding the distinction of being both a land-grant institution and state university. The UTK Libraries, with an annual budget of $10 million, holds 2 million volumes and receives approximately 10,000 current serials. The Libraries system includes the John C. Hodges Library and four branches on the Knoxville campus: Agriculture-Veterinary Medicine, Map, Music, and University Archives and Special Collections. A fifth branch, the Social Work Library, is located in Nashville. Over three hundred persons are employed, including 49 librarians, 8 exempt, 123 non-exempt, and 150 students. UTK Libraries is a member of the Association of Research Libraries, SOLINET, and the Center for Research Libraries. The UTK Libraries offers a Web-based information system and access to a variety of electronic information sources. Additional information about this position and the UTK community is available at http://toltec.lib.utk.edu/~lss/search/cnsi.html. APPLICATION PROCEDURE: Send letter of application, a current resume, and the names, addresses, e-mail addresses, and telephone numbers of three recent references to: Jill Keally, Head, Library Support Services, 1015 Volunteer Blvd., Knoxville, TN 37996-1000, fax 423/974-4696. Review of applications will begin May 15, 2000 and continue until the position is filled. The University of Tennessee, Knoxville, does not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, color, religion, national origin, age, disability or veteran status in provision of educational programs and services or employment opportunities and benefits. This policy extends to both employment by and admission to the University. The University does not discriminate on the basis of race, sex, or disability in the education programs and activities pursuant to the requirements of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) of 1990. Inquiries and charges of violation concerning Title VI, Title IX, Section 504, ADA or the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA) or any of the other above referenced policies should be directed to the Office of Diversity Resources & Educational Services (DRES), 2110 Terrace Avenue, Knoxville, TN 37996-3560, telephone (423)974-2498 (TTY available). Requests for accommodation of a disability should be directed to the ADA Coordinator at the Office of Human Resources Management, 600 Henley Street, Knoxville, TN 37996-4125 From daze at nortelnetworks.com Wed Mar 29 12:12:29 2000 From: daze at nortelnetworks.com (Patricia Daze) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Quantifying Content Integration Message-ID: <402CC1A33A3FD311A5A00000F8082A5F01174573@zcrkp001.ca.nortel.com> Hi Web4Lib Colleagues, Other than web metrics on number of downloads and page hits, are there any quantitative measures you use to evaluate how well the content you provide is integrated into people's work? Thank you, Patricia Daze Nortel Networks (613) 765-5499 ESN 395-5499 daze@nortelnetworks.com http://www.nortelnetworks.com/microelectronics -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/lib_home.htm From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Wed Mar 29 14:16:32 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Reminders about posting policy Message-ID: <006101bf99b3$4e4f5180$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Our fearless leader Roy is out of town and away from e-mail for the day, so I'll take the opportunity to put out a reminder about the Web4Lib posting policy. It is a violation of the posting policy to redistribute to the list copyrighted material unless you have, and include in the message, permission to do so. This is a serious issue, and people have been banned from the list for repeatedly violating this. Also, please remember that just yesterday there was an announcement about formats and sizes of postings; list members are requested to post in plain text with a maximum message size of 10k. No one has been banned for violating this rule -- yet. :-} Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From shaffer at uic.edu Wed Mar 29 15:01:46 2000 From: shaffer at uic.edu (Chris Shaffer) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Seeking instructors for class(es) in midwest Message-ID: <4.2.2.20000329140122.02e2f960@tigger.cc.uic.edu> Hello, The Health Science Librarians of Illinois are seeking an instructor in the midwest to teach a four or eight hour course at their meeting in Rockford, IL on November 9. An honorarium and travel expenses will be provided. Potential topics include: Introduction to browser plug-ins Building and managing the digital health science library Creating web-based presentations and courses Hospital library web site design If you are interested in teaching at this meeting, please contact: Nancy Dale, MALS, AHIP Health Care Library SwedishAmerican Health System 1400 Charles Street Rockford, IL 61104 815-489-4556 815-968-3713 fax ndale@uic.edu From grondin.luc at uqam.ca Wed Mar 29 15:38:58 2000 From: grondin.luc at uqam.ca (Luc Grondin) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Running Perl scripts with Apache on Win32 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000329153858.006a49e4@nobel.si.uqam.ca> Hello! I am trying to set up an Apache server on my Win98 workstation in order to develop and test Perl scripts (before uploading them in production). For a while, I had an OmniHTTPd server running and was able to execute perl scripts located in the cgi-bin directory. However, I decided to use Apache for Win32 instead. It is working fine to serve files located in the htdocs directory, but I have no success with scripts located in the cgi-bin. An error 500 is generated. These are excerpts from the log files: access.log: localhost - - [29/Mar/2000:13:53:25 -0500] "GET /cgi-bin/testip.pl HTTP/1.0" 500 595 "http://localhost/res.html" "Mozilla/4.7 [fr] (Win98; U)" error.log: [Wed Mar 29 13:53:24 2000] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (2)No such file or directory: couldn't spawn child process: c:/apache/cgi-bin/testip.pl In fact, there is a file as indicated in the path above. There may be something wrong in the httpd.conf. I have kept it close to the way it was generated by the installation process: # ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:/Apache/cgi-bin/" # # "C:/Apache/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased # CGI directory exists, if you have that configured. # Order allow,deny Allow from all AllowOverride None Options None I would appreciate it if an Apache wizard could give me some directions. I have looked trough the documentation with no success so far. Regards, --- Luc Grondin Bibliothecaire/Librarian Services informatises des bibliotheques Universite du Quebec a Montreal From lherman at medaille.edu Wed Mar 29 16:18:37 2000 From: lherman at medaille.edu (Linda Herman) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: netLibrary trial problems Message-ID: <38E2732D.B0D08264@medaille.edu> Hi, Our library has been trying to participate in a free trial of netLibrary. We have encountered problems with the screens freezing on almost all of our computers when trying to view the pages of their e-books. We are able to access the trial site okay, search the site and select an e-book. The problem occurs when we try to open a page for viewing. This hasn't occurred before with any other database or web site. We are using Netscape versions 4.51 or 4.7. Our computer technician tried reinstalling the video cards, but this didn't solve the problem. NetLibrary technical support suggested that we try to use MS Explorer, instead of Netscape. Before downloading Explorer on all our computers, I thought I'd ask if anyone else has experienced similar problems, and might be able to suggest any other possible solutions. Thanks, Linda Herman Technical Services Librarian Medaille College Library Buffalo, NY lherman@medaille.edu From lilsalem at jasper.uor.edu Wed Mar 29 13:50:55 2000 From: lilsalem at jasper.uor.edu (Linda Salem) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: LACASIS Event: GOT E-BOOKS? Message-ID: <01f001bf99af$b70751e0$e880d0ce@LIBNET> www.lacasis.org LOS ANGELES CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR INFORMATION SCIENCE Be A Part Of It All. GOT E-BOOKS? Program: Stephen King's latest release will be sold exclusively as an e-book! Vendors are touting e-books as the next hottest thing for libraries: single copy with multiple distribution, great for off-campus and branch office access, and no worries about copyright. Vendors also claim that the implementation process is quick and easy. Why is it then that not many libraries in Southern California actually subscribe to e-books? In this meeting, we invited representatives from two libraries that have e-books to share their experiences and lessons learned. What questions should be asked before signing the dotted line? Was the implementation process really quick and easy? And most importantly, what do the library users think? Date: Tuesday April 18, 2000 Location: Honnold/Mudd Library The Claremont Colleges Time: 6:00pm Networking & Social Hour 6:30pm Dinner 7:15pm Program Dinner Cost: ASIS Members $18.00 Non-Members $20.00 Students $15.00 Menu: Mexican Buffet w/ Dessert Iced Tea/Coffee RSVP Deadline: April 14, 2000 Directions to Honnold/Mudd Library at The Claremont Colleges: Located at 800 N. Dartmouth, Claremont, CA 91711 Directions From the West: Stay on the I-10 East (toward San Bernardino) until you reach the Indian Hill/Claremont exit. 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The problem occurs when we try to open a page for viewing. This hasn't occurred before with any other database or web site. We are using Netscape versions 4.51 or 4.7. Our computer technician tried reinstalling the video cards, but this didn't solve the problem. NetLibrary technical support suggested that we try to use MS Explorer, instead of Netscape. Before downloading Explorer on all our computers, I thought I'd ask if anyone else has experienced similar problems, and might be able to suggest any other possible solutions. Thanks, Linda Herman Technical Services Librarian Medaille College Library Buffalo, NY lherman@medaille.edu From sctseng at sun1.lib.uci.edu Wed Mar 29 20:38:32 2000 From: sctseng at sun1.lib.uci.edu (Sally C. Tseng ) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: ALCTS 2000 Preconference on Metadata - July 6-7, 2000 Message-ID: Dear Colleagues: I am pleased to let you know that the ALCTS Preconference on Metadata will be held July 6 to 7, 2000 at the Palmer House in Chicago. Please register ASAP to reserve a seat! "Metadata: Libraries and the Web--Retooling AACR and MARC21 for Cataloging in the Twenty-first Century" is presented by the ALCTS Serials Section, Committee to Study Serials Cataloging, the CCS, CC:DA, Task Force on Metadata, and the ALCTS Networked Resources and Metadata Committee. This two-day preconference will be held on Thursday, July 6 from 7:45 a.m. - 5:30 p.m., and Friday, July 7 from 8:00 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. Participants will learn the most effective and efficient options for providing users with access to Web resources. Topics range from library leaders' viewpoints on Web resources access to the how-to's of creating records. The emphasis of this preconference is on presenting the pros and cons, standards, and the practicalities of dealing with metadata for Web resources and a vision for the future, including DDI, Dublin Core, EAD, ISSN, MARC 21, RDF, TEI, XML, W3C and the new thoughts, rules, guidelines on seriality and AACR2. The preconference is designed for librarians in public, academic, and special libraries, who are responsible for providing users with access to electronic resources available over the Web and through on-going publications, whether by cataloging, by collecting, by designing subject-specific Web pages or by other means. Faculty Murtha Baca, Laura Bayard, Matthew Beacom, Vivian Bliss, Stanley Blum, Diane Boehr, Beth Camden, Brad Eden, William Fietzer, William Garrison, Michael Gorman, Rebecca Guenther, Diane Hillmann, Jean Hirons, Sheila Intner, Erik Jul, Kris Kiesling, Mary Larsgaard, Clifford Lynch, Norm Medeiros, Elizabeth Mangan, Lynn Marko, Constance Mayer, Eric Miller, Regina Reynolds, Carlos Rodriguez, Carlen Ruschoff, Brian E.C. Schottlaender, Wendy Treadwell, and Jennifer Younger. Registration fees for the preconference are $235 for ALCTS members, $285 for ALA members, and $335 for nonmembers. (ALCTS #3 on the ALA registration form) To register by mail: Send completed registration form with payment to: ALA Advance Registration, Dept. #77-6565, Chicago, Ill., 60678-6565; Fax: 312/944-7841; On-Line: Complete the on-line registration form located at http://www.ala.org/events/ac2000/online_reg.html For additional information is available on the ALCTS Web site: http://www.ala.org/alctsevents/preconf2000.html or, contact Charles Wilt, Deputy Executive Director, ALCTS, cwilt@ala.org, phone: 312/280-5030. See you in Chicago. Sally ******************************************************************** Sally Tseng, Co-Chair ALCTS Preconference on Metadata Head, Serials Cataloging Telephone: 949-824-6832 Science Library #331 Fax: 949-824-2059 University of California, Irvine P.O. Box 19557 email: sctseng@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92623 ******************************************************************** From Paul.Sutherland at ccc.govt.nz Thu Mar 30 01:51:00 2000 From: Paul.Sutherland at ccc.govt.nz (Sutherland, Paul) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) Message-ID: <4123AAB729E3D111A9180000F81EACF902FBC8DD@arwen.ccc.govt.nz> Greetings We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to decide to change the name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) We are a DRA library. This coincides with our migration from a command line (VT terminal) version and a basic web interface to our databases (catalogue, Newspaper index, Community database etc) to the newer Web2 interface from DRA. (which is not yet available to the outside world) We are also introducing Thin Clients as the machinery for our Web interface. My colleagues seem to think that because the interface is new (and the Thin Client devices are different) we must rename the devices used to access the library databases - which of course are still the same old MARC things! My belief that the word OPAC which is what we named our OPAC's when we launched them in July 1989 has become a meaningful term for our customers and is also a word beyond just being an acronym. (i.e. if it ain't broke why fix it) What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call your OPACs (the device that accesses your library databases) & when did the word OPAC enter the English (or American;-) language. Has anyone struggled with this issue in the past and what were your outcomes. Thanks for your help (in advance...) /paul ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Sutherland mailto:Paul.Sutherland@ccc.govt.nz Information Technology Librarian Canterbury Public Library Aotearoa/New Zealand http://www.ccc.govt.nz/Library/ My opinions only Less is more, but not enough. Sol Le Wit From bargioni at usc.urbe.it Thu Mar 30 02:21:05 2000 From: bargioni at usc.urbe.it (Stefano Bargioni) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:58 2005 Subject: Running Perl scripts with Apache on Win32 References: <01f001bf99af$b70751e0$e880d0ce@LIBNET> Message-ID: <38E3005F.54730928@usc.urbe.it> Luc Grondin wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to set up an Apache server on my Win98 workstation in order to > develop and test Perl scripts (before uploading them in production). For a > while, I had an OmniHTTPd server running and was able to execute perl > scripts located in the cgi-bin directory. However, I decided to use Apache > for Win32 instead. It is working fine to serve files located in the htdocs > directory, but I have no success with scripts located in the cgi-bin. An > error 500 is generated. These are excerpts from the log files: > > access.log: > localhost - - [29/Mar/2000:13:53:25 -0500] "GET /cgi-bin/testip.pl > HTTP/1.0" 500 595 "http://localhost/res.html" "Mozilla/4.7 [fr] (Win98; U)" > > error.log: > [Wed Mar 29 13:53:24 2000] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (2)No such file or > directory: couldn't spawn child process: c:/apache/cgi-bin/testip.pl > > In fact, there is a file as indicated in the path above. > > There may be something wrong in the httpd.conf. I have kept it close to > the way it was generated by the installation process: > > # > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:/Apache/cgi-bin/" > # > # "C:/Apache/cgi-bin" should be changed to whatever your ScriptAliased > # CGI directory exists, if you have that configured. > # > > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > AllowOverride None > Options None > > > I would appreciate it if an Apache wizard could give me some directions. I > have looked trough the documentation with no success so far. > Luc, 3 ideas to check your installation: 1. can you retrieve files like http://localhost/test.html? If no, add to httpd.conf a directive of localhost. 2. if you are running a shell like bash or perl, you need the 'shebang' line at the top of the script to invoke it: #!shell_path (from "Apache: the definitive guide" by B. & P. Laurie) 3. may be you need to use (I'm not sure) ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:\Apache\cgi-bin\" instead of ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:/Apache/cgi-bin/" But I suggest you to avoid using Apache on Win32 systems: a lot of problems (performance and security) could affect you. Bye. Stefano -- Dott. Stefano Bargioni Biblioteca della Pontificia Universita' della Santa Croce - Roma Personal web page: --- "Si apud bibliothecam hortulum habes, nihil deerit" (Cicerone) --- From glen.davies at cce.ac.nz Thu Mar 30 05:27:38 2000 From: glen.davies at cce.ac.nz (Glen Davies) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) In-Reply-To: <4123AAB729E3D111A9180000F81EACF902FBC8DD@arwen.ccc.govt.nz> Message-ID: How about BOB. It's nice and short, and a palindrome so the borrowers will soon get to know it backwards! On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:57:05 -0800 (PST) "Sutherland, Paul" wrote: > Greetings > > We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to > decide to change the > name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) > > We are a DRA library. > > This coincides with our migration from a command line (VT > terminal) version > and a basic web interface to our databases (catalogue, > Newspaper index, > Community database etc) to the newer Web2 interface from > DRA. (which is not > yet available to the outside world) > > We are also introducing Thin Clients as the machinery for > our Web interface. > > My colleagues seem to think that because the interface is > new (and the Thin > Client devices are different) we must rename the devices > used to access the > library databases - which of course are still the same > old MARC things! > > My belief that the word OPAC which is what we named our > OPAC's when we > launched them in July 1989 has become a meaningful term > for our customers > and is also a word beyond just being an acronym. (i.e. if > it ain't broke why > fix it) > > What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call > your OPACs (the > device that accesses your library databases) > > & when did the word OPAC enter the English (or > American;-) language. > > Has anyone struggled with this issue in the past and what > were your > outcomes. > > > Thanks for your help (in advance...) > > /paul > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Paul Sutherland > mailto:Paul.Sutherland@ccc.govt.nz > Information Technology Librarian > Canterbury Public Library > Aotearoa/New Zealand > http://www.ccc.govt.nz/Library/ > > My opinions only Less is more, but not > enough. Sol Le Wit From drewwe at morrisville.EDU Thu Mar 30 08:08:43 2000 From: drewwe at morrisville.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or no t) Message-ID: <0FE0C961370DD31181F40004AC4C811B69B474@mail1.morrisville.edu> We usually call them computers but we call our library catalog Morris and our website LibraryLinks. Bill Drew From GSENNEMA at calvin.edu Thu Mar 30 08:22:31 2000 From: GSENNEMA at calvin.edu (Gregory Sennema) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) Message-ID: Paul wrote: "& when did the word OPAC enter the English (or American;-) language." In our library, this was the point: "OPAC" never did enter the English language, at least outside of library walls. What you actually name your system of course is up to you according to your objectives, but you may want to consider, as we did, issues of image, and the fact that for many patrons, OPAC does not sound as catchy as AltaVista, Hotbot, or Google. Greg Sennema Digital Resources Librarian Hekman Library Calvin College and Calvin Theological Seminary 3207 Burton St SE Grand Rapids, MI 49546 tel: (616) 957-8455 fax: (616) 957-6470 >>> "Sutherland, Paul" 03/30/00 01:56AM >>> Greetings We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to decide to change the name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) We are a DRA library. This coincides with our migration from a command line (VT terminal) version and a basic web interface to our databases (catalogue, Newspaper index, Community database etc) to the newer Web2 interface from DRA. (which is not yet available to the outside world) We are also introducing Thin Clients as the machinery for our Web interface. My colleagues seem to think that because the interface is new (and the Thin Client devices are different) we must rename the devices used to access the library databases - which of course are still the same old MARC things! My belief that the word OPAC which is what we named our OPAC's when we launched them in July 1989 has become a meaningful term for our customers and is also a word beyond just being an acronym. (i.e. if it ain't broke why fix it) What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call your OPACs (the device that accesses your library databases) & when did the word OPAC enter the English (or American;-) language. Has anyone struggled with this issue in the past and what were your outcomes. Thanks for your help (in advance...) /paul ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Sutherland mailto:Paul.Sutherland@ccc.govt.nz Information Technology Librarian Canterbury Public Library Aotearoa/New Zealand http://www.ccc.govt.nz/Library/ My opinions only Less is more, but not enough. Sol Le Wit From dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu Thu Mar 30 09:22:37 2000 From: dvanarsd at systema.westark.edu (Dennis VanArsdale) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hyperlinking OK, judge says In-Reply-To: <38E25152.29DD7609@cdrewu.edu> Message-ID: <30377181994@gw.westark.edu> Date sent: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:01:41 -0800 (PST) Send reply to: chhobbs@cdrewu.edu From: "Charles P. Hobbs" To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Hyperlinking OK, judge says > http://live.altavista.com/scripts/editorial.dll?efi=900&ern=y&ei=1644535 > > This was a ruling in favor of "Tickets.com" which was sued by > "Ticketmaster" for > linking to individual records in the Ticketmaster site, rather than to > the front page. > > My opinion: This is a *good* ruling, as the whole WWW was designed along > > the lines of being able to link wherever you wanted to, basically. > > Don't want other people linking directly to your database records? Hide > them > behind a CGI script or something, but don't go running to a judge, > expecting to > change the rules of the game... > > -- > Charles P. Hobbs > King Drew Health Science Library > http://www.cdrewu.edu/lib_home.htm > > ################################################### Dennis G. Van Arsdale, Technical Services Librarian Boreham Library, Westark College********* P.O. Box 3649 Fort Smith ARkansas 72913-3649 (501) 788-7206 -- dvanarsd@systema.westark.edu http://www.westark.edu ################################################### From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Thu Mar 30 09:55:01 2000 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) Message-ID: <000330095501.d6f0@sals.edu> >> What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call >> your OPACs (the >> device that accesses your library databases) >How about BOB. It's nice and short, and a palindrome so the >borrowers will soon get to know it backwards! I like that one...it sounds so reassuring and helpful. :-) When we we installed our CD-ROM catalogs, our administration decided they should be called computer catalogs. We're also in the process of moving to Web2, so I hope we can call them just catalogs. They will have access to much more, but patrons are used to calling them that. Many users call everything a terminal, whether it's a full-service Internet PC or an old VT220. Maybe we should just say The Computer... Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Thu Mar 30 10:25:29 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) In-Reply-To: <4123AAB729E3D111A9180000F81EACF902FBC8DD@arwen.ccc.govt.nz> Message-ID: "Sutherland, Paul" said: >We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to decide to change >the name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) Just yesterday I was commenting in a workshop I was teaching about how librarians seem to think they have to come up with a cutesy name for their library catalog. What is it about computers that makes us do this? We never named our card catalogs! Why not call it what it is, what people can relate to, and what will not require explanation: the library catalog. Roy Tennant (from an institution that has both "MELVYL" and "GLADIS"...and no, they're not married) From ladyhawk at well.com Thu Mar 30 10:37:37 2000 From: ladyhawk at well.com (GraceAnne A. DeCandido) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200003301537.HAA22293@smtp.well.com> A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, I was senior editor at Library Journal, and I did a news featurette on the naming of computer systems. People had some very charming and intriguing comments -- and some great names. This would have been some time between Sept 1987 and Sept 1990, if some enterprising Webin wants to track it down. I believe I wrote it for the news section, so I don't think it was under my byline. GraceAnne (sig file way below) > "Sutherland, Paul" said: > > >We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to decide to change > >the name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) > > Just yesterday I was commenting in a workshop I was teaching about how > librarians seem to think they have to come up with a cutesy name for their > library catalog. What is it about computers that makes us do this? We > never named our card catalogs! Why not call it what it is, what people can > relate to, and what will not require explanation: the library catalog. > Roy Tennant > (from an institution that has both "MELVYL" and "GLADIS"...and no, they're > not married) > > GraceAnne A. DeCandido Blue Roses Consulting ~ Writing ~ Editorial ~ Web Content ladyhawk@well.com http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/gadhome.html What's Ladyhawk reading now? http://www.well.com/user/ladyhawk/books.html Writing is exciting, and baseball is like writing. You can never tell with either how it will go. Marianne Moore From drobinson at info.hwwilson.com Thu Mar 30 10:43:23 2000 From: drobinson at info.hwwilson.com (Dan Robinson Indexing Services) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) In-Reply-To: <000330095501.d6f0@sals.edu> Message-ID: <200003301643.LAA07194@hwmail.hwwilson.com> Or, you could call it HAL. And every once in awhile have it display the words.... Hello, Dave. Dan Robinson drobinson@hwwilson.com On 30 Mar 00, at 6:49, Robert Sullivan wrote: > >> What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call > >> your OPACs (the > >> device that accesses your library databases) > > >How about BOB. It's nice and short, and a palindrome so the > >borrowers will soon get to know it backwards! > > I like that one...it sounds so reassuring and helpful. :-) > ............... > > Many users call everything a terminal, whether it's a full-service Internet PC > or an old VT220. Maybe we should just say The Computer... > > Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu > Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org > From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Thu Mar 30 10:47:40 2000 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: MSIE 5 for Mac released Message-ID: Microsoft finally released Explorer 5 for the Mac. Download at: http://www.microsoft.com/mac/download/en/default.asp or read more about it at: http://macweek.zdnet.com/2000/03/19/0324ie5.html Roy Tennant From malund at mail.wm.edu Thu Mar 30 10:58:59 2000 From: malund at mail.wm.edu (Mack Lundy) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) References: Message-ID: <38E379C3.3766E68F@mail.wm.edu> Roy, While I don't disagree with you, I suspect that names for catalogs have several benefits: 1. Easier/quicker to refer to (e.g. "look it up in MELVYL" vs "Look it up in the library catalog") 2. More interesting in publicity announcements. Maybe also logos that can be used on handouts. 3. You have to name the server something so why not use the name of the catalog 4. We like to anthropomorphize objects Mack Roy Tennant wrote: > > "Sutherland, Paul" said: > > >We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to decide to change > >the name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) > > Just yesterday I was commenting in a workshop I was teaching about how > librarians seem to think they have to come up with a cutesy name for their > library catalog. What is it about computers that makes us do this? We > never named our card catalogs! Why not call it what it is, what people can > relate to, and what will not require explanation: the library catalog. > Roy Tennant > (from an institution that has both "MELVYL" and "GLADIS"...and no, they're > not married) -- Mack Lundy (malund@mail.wm.edu) Library Systems Manager Swem Library College of William and Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187-8794 Voice: 757.221.3114 Fax: 757.221.2635 From dennism at library.tmc.edu Thu Mar 30 11:10:40 2000 From: dennism at library.tmc.edu (Dennis Moser) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) Message-ID: <006101bf9a62$7e578280$411e44c0@d081.library.tmc.edu> "I'm sorry, Dave...I can't let you do that." Hmmmm. I like it. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Robinson Indexing Services To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) >Or, you could call it HAL. And every once in awhile have it display >the words.... Hello, Dave. > >Dan Robinson >drobinson@hwwilson.com > > >On 30 Mar 00, at 6:49, Robert Sullivan wrote: > >> >> What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call >> >> your OPACs (the >> >> device that accesses your library databases) >> >> >How about BOB. It's nice and short, and a palindrome so the >> >borrowers will soon get to know it backwards! >> >> I like that one...it sounds so reassuring and helpful. :-) >> >.............. >> >> Many users call everything a terminal, whether it's a full-service Internet PC >> or an old VT220. Maybe we should just say The Computer... >> >> Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu >> Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org >> > > > From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Thu Mar 30 11:02:03 2000 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) Message-ID: <000330110203.d6f0@sals.edu> >Or, you could call it HAL. And every once in awhile have it display >the words.... Hello, Dave. And if you have speakers on the computer, when it doesn't find what they entered it could say, "I'm sorry, I can't do that." Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From greene at bulldog.unca.edu Thu Mar 30 11:03:01 2000 From: greene at bulldog.unca.edu (Araby Greene) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) References: Message-ID: <004b01bf9a61$6df3c260$2f801298@lib.unca.edu> Several years ago, we had a contest to name our (then telnet) "online services," which included the library catalog and other databases available from our OPAC terminals. The winner was "HidenSeek," from our full name "D. Hiden Ramsey Library." We continued to use HidenSeek in a large useless graphic on our library Web page until recently, though the first link on the page was always labeled "Library Catalog." Using "HidenSeek" merely confused our users, who didn't know or care how we got the moniker, and to whom it meant absolutely nothing. They do know what Ramsey Library is, and that Library Catalog is where you look up stuff (some confusion here about what stuff, exactly, you can look up, but we deal with that elsewhere). We share a catalog with two other libraries, and though there has been discussion about giving it a cutesy name, we have, mercifully, been unable to agree on anything. When I visit another library, I want to find the catalog, not have to figure out if ZOUL is it, an in-house database, a collective name for subscription services, or a diabolical plot. Jus' my 2 cents. Araby Greene __________________________ Araby Greene Coor. of Electronic Resources & Gov't Information Ramsey Library, UNC-Asheville greene@bulldog.unca.edu (828) 251-6632 ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Tennant To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:27 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) > "Sutherland, Paul" said: > > >We have a small group of colleagues who are trying to decide to change > >the name of our OPACs (for no logical reason) > > Just yesterday I was commenting in a workshop I was teaching about how > librarians seem to think they have to come up with a cutesy name for their > library catalog. What is it about computers that makes us do this? We > never named our card catalogs! Why not call it what it is, what people can > relate to, and what will not require explanation: the library catalog. > Roy Tennant > (from an institution that has both "MELVYL" and "GLADIS"...and no, they're > not married) > > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Thu Mar 30 11:08:24 2000 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] MSIE 5 for Mac released References: Message-ID: <016301bf9a62$3a8bb490$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Tennant" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: [WEB4LIB] MSIE 5 for Mac released > Microsoft finally released Explorer 5 for the Mac. Download at: > > http://www.microsoft.com/mac/download/en/default.asp > > or read more about it at: > > http://macweek.zdnet.com/2000/03/19/0324ie5.html > The most prominent feature I've heard mentioned so far is that it defaults to a 16pt type size. Some web designers, whose hearts may be in the right place but whose heads sure aren't, are already doing JavaScript sniffing, and decreasing the font size when they detect Mac IE5. However, the larger out-of-the-box font setting may be spurring a greater percentage of users to change their defaults than is usually the case. The result could be some really tiny print when the two trends collide. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From mcculley at best.com Thu Mar 30 11:23:05 2000 From: mcculley at best.com (P. Michael McCulley) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) In-Reply-To: <006101bf9a62$7e578280$411e44c0@d081.library.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <000701bf9a64$3b708460$b7eb56ce@mcculley> I gave http://www.wcsu.ctstateu.edu/library/odlis.html a whirl as an online dictionary of library science, huge page load!! so didn't see if OPAC was there; I imagine it is. Yikes, wouldn't 26-pages be better than one? :> for this site? I stopped the page loading at 500K, and I was at the "L's." The OED is online, http://www.oed.com/ , but fee-based. I wonder if OPAC is in there? I always liked LUIS at Clemson University --sounds like a friendly soul :> Best, Michael mcculley@best.com Quote of the Moment: -Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Moser > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 08:00 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or > not) > [snipped] From mccoyk at raleigh.lib.wv.us Thu Mar 30 11:30:36 2000 From: mccoyk at raleigh.lib.wv.us (Kay McCoy) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: link to site with free on-line books Message-ID: <023c01bf9a65$7a485b80$0a924781@raleigh.lib.wv.us> Somewhere I have seen a URL for a web site that offers free on-line browsing of professional computing books. Possibly it is a publisher that gives sneak previews of newly - or soon to be - published books. If anyone has this URL, or a similar one, please post it to the list. Thanks. Perhaps I should go on to say that what I am actually looking for is some immediate on-line help for setting the security policies on a new computer running Windows 2000 Professional. Any direction on that would be helpful also. Thanks again. Kay McCoy mccoyk@raleigh.lib.wv.us Automation Manager phone/fax: 304-465-5664 Fayette County Public Libraries Oak Hill, WV 25901 From mcculley at best.com Thu Mar 30 11:43:10 2000 From: mcculley at best.com (P. Michael McCulley) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: OPAC into language... Message-ID: <000d01bf9a67$08d44020$b7eb56ce@mcculley> Source: http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/8/0,5716,109618+14,00.html >From Encyclopedia Britannica... "The system that accommodates this type of search is known as OPAC (on-line public access computer)." The article talks about it in reference to MARC and MARC II (1968), but no date is given for the actual introduction of the term into language. Best, Michael mcculley@best.com Quote of the Moment: If quitters never win, and winners never cheat, then who is the fool who said "Quit while you're ahead?" From collisod at uhls.lib.ny.us Thu Mar 30 11:51:09 2000 From: collisod at uhls.lib.ny.us (Deanna Collison) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: Thanks and OPACs Message-ID: <38E385FD.A27C034B@uhls.lib.ny.us> To all on the list: I've been subscribing for awhile and would like to thank you all for your willingness to share information. I've gotten many answers to hard questions from you guys! Good luck to you all in your endeavors. For the record: OPAC -Online Public Access Catalog, a computer catalog of the books and other materials owned by a library. See also: online and WebPac. Peace, Deanna Collison Albany Public Library -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: collisod.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 430 bytes Desc: Card for Deanna Collison Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000330/0fb027b0/collisod.vcf From wiggins at mail.com Thu Mar 30 12:00:18 2000 From: wiggins at mail.com (Richard Wiggins) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: Survey: Web to Database Integration choices? Message-ID: <382581880.954435618774.JavaMail.root@web37.pub01> For a talk I'm giving at an upcoming library conference, I'd like to learn more about what Web middleware and database solutions libraries are choosing. So if you're willing, please send me a PRIVATE note with a brief outline of what you use. An example might be: ... We host a database of community services in our area. The database is implemented in MS-Access on an NT server. We use Cold Fusion to connect our Apache server to this database. The URL is http://www.ci.eastovershoe.lib.mt.us We like this setup because ___________________________________ ... Please send me a PRIVATE note and I will summarize for the list. For this purpose, I'm not seeking information about OPAC-Web gateways or Web interfaces to turnkey full text databases. Or if you know of an existing survey in print or online, please send it to me. Thanks! /rich Richard Wiggins Consulting, Writing & Training on Internet Topics www.netfact.com/rww wiggins@mail.com 517-349-6919 (home office) 517-353-4955 (work) ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From schwarz at AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG Thu Mar 30 12:40:31 2000 From: schwarz at AXP.WINNEFOX.ORG (Joy Schwarz) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] link to site with free on-line books In-Reply-To: <023c01bf9a65$7a485b80$0a924781@raleigh.lib.wv.us> Message-ID: Hi Kay - For online books I've used InformIT < http://www.informit.com/itlibrary/ > and like it, and here are two I've bookmarked but not tried yet: < http://www.itknowledge.com/ > and < http://online-books.ora.com/mod-bin/books.mod/webref//index.htm >. Joy Schwarz | Any sufficiently Web Coordinator/I.L.L. Librarian | advanced technology Winnefox Library System | is indistinguishable Oshkosh, WI USA | from magic. http://axp.winnefox.org | Clarke's Third Law On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Kay McCoy wrote: > Somewhere I have seen a URL for a web site that offers free > on-line browsing of professional computing books. Possibly > it is a publisher that gives sneak previews of newly - or > soon to be - published books. If anyone has this URL, or a > similar one, please post it to the list. Thanks. > > Perhaps I should go on to say that what I am actually > looking for is some immediate on-line help for setting the > security policies on a new computer running Windows 2000 > Professional. Any direction on that would be helpful also. > Thanks again. > > Kay McCoy > mccoyk@raleigh.lib.wv.us > Automation Manager phone/fax: > 304-465-5664 > Fayette County Public Libraries Oak Hill, WV 25901 From Poulter at LIBRARY.Vanderbilt.edu Thu Mar 30 12:45:12 2000 From: Poulter at LIBRARY.Vanderbilt.edu (Dale Poulter) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: Web proxy alternative option and question Message-ID: <01JNN5O214O28X2MU2@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Good morning, We recently read an article in Dr. Dobbs Journal ( Feb 2000 pp86-96, the code is available at http://www.ddj.com/ftp/2000/2000_02/) about a free software package, webrelay, developed by Peter Zhang. According to the article this package will allow libraries to provide easy access to online articles to distance students without using a proxy server. The package sounds great, but it was written in c (not my strong point) for AIX. Has anyone attempted to port this package to Solaris? Thanks. Dale Poulter Systems Librarian Vanderbilt University Suite 700 110 21st Avenue South Nashville, TN 37240 (615)343-5388 (615)343-8834 (fax) poulter@library.vanderbilt.edu From stephen.treger at sdsu.edu Thu Mar 30 13:34:32 2000 From: stephen.treger at sdsu.edu (Stephen Treger) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Web proxy alternative option and question Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20000330103420.0314eb10@mail.sdsu.edu> At 09:52 AM 3/30/00 -0800, Dale Poulter wrote: >Good morning, > > We recently read an article in Dr. Dobbs Journal ( Feb 2000 >pp86-96, the code is available at >http://www.ddj.com/ftp/2000/2000_02/) about a free software package, >webrelay, developed by Peter Zhang. According to the article this >package will allow libraries to provide easy access to online >articles to distance students without using a proxy server. The >package sounds great, but it was written in c (not my strong point) >for AIX. > > Has anyone attempted to port this package to Solaris? Thanks. I recommend you look at EzProxy from UsefulUtilities. A custom compile for Solaris is available, or run the pre-compiled binaries for Windows or Linux. Don't let words proxy in its name fool you. This package met our requirements of not requiring any client side changes to the browser. Any browser that accepts cookies (for the session) works. It dynamically rewrites the URLS of requested sites that are in a configuration file. We are authenticating directly off our III patron database, which meets our license agreements and allows for "distance learning". __________________________________________________________ Stephen Treger, OS Analyst | Phone: 619 594-5859 Malcolm A. Love Library, SDSU | Fax: 619 594-8982 WWW http://fezzik.sdsu.edu | mailto:treger@sdsu.edu Yahoo! Pager ID s_treger | ICQ # 4725463 Online Calendar http://calendar.yahoo.com/public/s_treger From lislemck at netscape.net Thu Mar 30 14:15:10 2000 From: lislemck at netscape.net (Elizabeth McKenty) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: "Catalog" was Naming of...appliances Message-ID: <20000330191510.22712.qmail@www0f.netaddress.usa.net> We have labeled the toolbar button for the DRA Web2 implementation on our site "Catalog", which seems to really work for patrons. We tend to refer to it among staff as the "web catalog" as we still use terminals/terminal emulation to access circulation (Circle) and the old patron interface (Gateway). IT staff members seem to refer to it as DRA Web2, but that is utterly meaningless to the rest of the planet. I remember being completely puzzled by the term OPAC when I started library school circa 1988. I don't think it ever really made it into the language outside the profession. Regards, Elizabeth McKenty The Office of Public Services Support Free Library of Philadelphia mckentye@library.phila.gov ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Thu Mar 30 14:45:45 2000 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt Crawford) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: "Catalog" was Naming of...appliances Message-ID: <882568B2.006C8F62.00@NOTES.RLG.ORG> I can't resist... 1. Was "OPAC" ever supposed to mean anything outside the profession? I hope not. Whenever I used it, I assumed that I was speaking/writing to a group of library folk. For them, it was (in the 1970s and 1980s) a useful abbreviation to distinguish online catalogs from card catalogs. For anyone else, it's a catalog. 2. Funny thing about this, but my sense is that public libraries mostly don't come up with cute names (or any names) for their online catalogs, while (some) academic libraries seem to think that an online catalog has to have a name. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's what I've generally seen. Not that I would ever wish to suggest that academic librarians might be able to learn anything from public librarians.[insert sardonic emoticon of choice here]..but here, as in most other cases involving actual service orientation, I think the public librarians are and always have been right. Your online catalog is a catalog. Giving it a name may make for an amusing contest but certainly doesn't increase communication to any user. Sure, we named Eureka. But then, that's an external service (for any library) with a fee attached. Calling it "Stuff you get through RLG" really wouldn't fit well on the banner... From jahb at lehigh.edu Thu Mar 30 14:56:40 2000 From: jahb at lehigh.edu (Jennifer Heise) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: "Catalog" was Naming of...appliances References: <882568B2.006C8F62.00@NOTES.RLG.ORG> Message-ID: <38E3B177.4B2C4BC6@lehigh.edu> > Not that I would ever wish to suggest that academic librarians might be able to > learn anything from public librarians.[insert sardonic emoticon of choice > here]..but here, as in most other cases involving actual service orientation, I > think the public librarians are and always have been right. Your online catalog > is a catalog. Giving it a name may make for an amusing contest but certainly > doesn't increase communication to any user. Um. The difference may lie in the fact that 'catalog' has TWO meanings in academia, whereas in public libraries it has only one? -- / Jennifer Heise, Helpdesk/Librarian, Lehigh Univ. Information Resources \ \ Fairchild-Martindale Library, 8A Packer Ave, Bethlehem PA 18015 / Phone (610) 758-3072 Email: jahb@lehigh.edu "Comment is free, but facts are on expenses." -- Tom Stoppard From rhtyner at okanagan.bc.ca Thu Mar 30 15:21:50 2000 From: rhtyner at okanagan.bc.ca (Ross Tyner) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) In-Reply-To: <4123AAB729E3D111A9180000F81EACF902FBC8DD@arwen.ccc.govt.nz > Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20000330122150.006c9344@okuc02.okanagan.bc.ca> When we installed SIRSI's Unicorn software two years ago, we briefly discussed possible names for our new OPAC. In the end, and wisely I think, we decided to go with the vendor's name - WebCat. However, not wanting to be left out of the name game, I did create a couple of mockups in case we ever change our mind. You may view them at: http://www.ouc.bc.ca/libr/temp/oolichan.html and http://www.ouc.bc.ca/libr/temp/hepcat.html _____________________________________ Ross Tyner (rhtyner@okanagan.bc.ca) Okanagan University College Library 7000 College Way Vernon, B.C., Canada, V1B 2N5 Tel: 250-545-7291 / Fax: 250-558-4963 http://www.ouc.bc.ca/library From heriot at olywa.net Thu Mar 30 16:44:34 2000 From: heriot at olywa.net (Jean Heriot) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Naming of Library [computer] appliances (OPAC or not) References: <000330095501.d6f0@sals.edu> Message-ID: <004801bf9a91$2441f120$24c3add8@heriot> > >> What I am wanting from you is to know what do you call > >> your OPACs (the > >> device that accesses your library databases) > > >How about BOB. It's nice and short, and a palindrome so the > >borrowers will soon get to know it backwards! > > I like that one...it sounds so reassuring and helpful. :-) The Church of the SubGenius strikes again? Sorry - anyway, I had the library-ese acronym "INNOPAC" linked on our web page for a while, until I got puzzled email from our users, asking where the library catalog was. So now I have named the link "Library catalog" - this seems to work just fine. -Jean Wash State Dept of Transportation Liibrary heriotj@wsdot.wa.gov http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/hq/library/ From MCKENTYE at library.phila.gov Thu Mar 30 16:56:40 2000 From: MCKENTYE at library.phila.gov (ELIZABETH MCKENTY AKA LISLE) Date: Wed May 18 15:04:59 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000330165640.20210198@library.phila.gov> From: SMTP%"lislemck@netscape.net" 30-MAR-2000 16:55:01.82 To: MCKENTYE CC: Subj: web4 Message-ID: <20000330215452.9183.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 30 Mar 00 16:54:52 EST From: Elizabeth McKenty To: mckentye@library.phila.gov Subject: web4 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: = = web4lib@webjunction.org = lislemck@netscape.net: You are not subscribed to web4lib@webjunction.org. Your message is returned to you unprocessed. If you want to subscribe, send mail to listproc@webjunction.org with the following request: subscribe WEB4LIB Your Name Elizabeth McKenty The Office of Public Services Support Free Library of Philadelphia mckentye@library.phila.gov ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From ronan at smathersnt2.uflib.ufl.edu Thu Mar 30 17:09:01 2000 From: ronan at smathersnt2.uflib.ufl.edu (Jana Ronan) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:00 2005 Subject: Online Reference Message-ID: > The University of Florida has launched a pilot of a new online reference > service called RefeXpress. > RefeXpress runs on Jay's House Core MOO software, on a Unix server. We > have a webpage that patrons use users access to the service, with a Java > applet called CupOMud, that allows users to connect and talk without > downloading or installing a client on their end. Both the MOO server and > client software are open source. RefeXpress looks like chat, but offers > librarians the object oriented programming power of a MOO. > > While users access the service through a webpage, librarians can use > clients on their computers to staff RefeXpress. Two clients that we are > testing are tkMOO-light and Phoca. These clients offer advanced features > such as triggers to alert the librarians that a user has logged in. > > Our pilot started just a couple of weeks ago and we have had around 15 > questions, and many "lurkers." We are staffing RefeXpress > Monday-Thursday, 9 am-11 am, and Sunday-Thursday, 9 pm - 11 pm during the > pilot. After the pilot is completed, we'll reconsider the hours that we > offer the service. > > Come and check it out: http://moo.nwe.ufl.edu:8080/refexpress > We welcome feedback on our interface, etc. > > Jana Ronan > Program Director for Undergraduate Library Services > Humanities & Social Science Services > George A. Smathers Libraries > University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611-7001 > ronan@mail.uflib.ufl.edu From smarvin at wcupa.edu Thu Mar 30 22:01:04 2000 From: smarvin at wcupa.edu (Marvin, Stephen G.) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:00 2005 Subject: E Reserves Statistics Message-ID: Please, if anyone is willing to share some basic statistics. Seeking initial start-up of an E Reserves service and would like a compilation of numbers. Specifically, How many faculty used how many courses to service how many items to how many students for E Reserves. If you could supply from first year to year 3 I could compare what we may expect in anticipated growth and service commitment. Also, could you tell me if you increased, decreased or remained the same on staffing for Reserve function when E Reserves were introduced. I will be very glad to share with the list. Thanking you in advance for your anticipated cooperation, I remain Very truly yours, Stephen Marvin FHG Library West Chester University 610-436-1068 Fax-436-2251 SMarvin@wcupa.edu From ml.bouchet at ntu.ac.uk Fri Mar 31 03:29:05 2000 From: ml.bouchet at ntu.ac.uk (Bouchet, ML) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] link to site with free on-line books Message-ID: <06243018FDE8D21192A70008C7DBACF90400CAD8@alvis.ntu.ac.uk> McGraw-Hill publishers have a beta-test site - they have parts or all of the book available online for people to look at and make comments on before they are finally published. http://www.pbg.mcgraw-hill.com/betabooks/betabooks-home.html However, it doesn't look like this month's offerings will help with your query... Marie-Laure Bouchet M-L Bouchet Internet Information Specialist Library & Information Services Nottingham Trent University ml.bouchet@ntu.ac.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay McCoy [mailto:mccoyk@raleigh.lib.wv.us] > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 5:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] link to site with free on-line books > > > Somewhere I have seen a URL for a web site that offers free > on-line browsing of professional computing books. Possibly > it is a publisher that gives sneak previews of newly - or > soon to be - published books. If anyone has this URL, or a > similar one, please post it to the list. Thanks. > > Perhaps I should go on to say that what I am actually > looking for is some immediate on-line help for setting the > security policies on a new computer running Windows 2000 > Professional. Any direction on that would be helpful also. > Thanks again. > > Kay McCoy > mccoyk@raleigh.lib.wv.us > Automation Manager phone/fax: > 304-465-5664 > Fayette County Public Libraries Oak Hill, WV 25901 > From leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu Fri Mar 31 10:54:40 2000 From: leo_klein at baruch.cuny.edu (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: MSIE 5 for Mac released In-Reply-To: <000701bf9a64$3b708460$b7eb56ce@mcculley> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000331095440.013c15d0@newton.baruch.cuny.edu> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, "Thomas Dowling" wrote: >The most prominent feature I've heard mentioned so far is that it defaults >to a 16pt type size. Some web designers, whose hearts may be in the right >place but whose heads sure aren't, are already doing JavaScript sniffing, >and decreasing the font size when they detect Mac IE5. However, the >larger out-of-the-box font setting may be spurring a greater percentage of >users to change their defaults than is usually the case. The result could >be some really tiny print when the two trends collide. > Frankly, it's a mess because 16pt is way too large for a Mac screen. After some fiddling, I found that 14pt with a 96 dpi screen most closely resembles the equivalent on IE for Windows. Also, by the way, the mac(topia) version of IE doesn't seem to use favicons. Is this the end of favicons? Can I ditch ours? LEO -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Leo Robert Klein 17 Lexington Ave, Box H0520 Web Coordinator & New York, NY. 10010 Digital Resources Developer tel: (212) 802-2373 Newman Library/Baruch College fax: (212) 802-2360 http://newman.baruch.cuny.edu email: Leo_Klein@baruch.cuny.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From msauers at bcr.org Fri Mar 31 11:15:16 2000 From: msauers at bcr.org (Michael Sauers) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: CSS examples Message-ID: I am redesigning my Web Design class that covers CSS. I've been just covering CSS basics win 1.5 hours with very little hands-on for the students. Starting in May I will be extending CSS coverage to 3 hours with a lot more hands-on. I am looking for examples of pages that use CSS which I can deconstruct and then let the students CSSize the page. If you have examples that I can use please e-mail me the URL. I am looking for examples from simple to complex. If I choose to use your page in the class I will e-mail you back for final permission and appropriate citation. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Sauers, Internet Trainer Bibliographical Center for Research (BCR) Aurora, CO :: msauers@bcr.org :: http://www.bcr.org/~msauers The WWW Library Directory is @ http://www.webpan.com/msauers/libdir/ Buy books, music or videos online? http://www.dealpilot.com/?partner=1307 "I want to know what good is a Web search engine that returns 324,909,188 'matches' to my key word. That's like saying, 'Good news, we've located the product you're looking for. It's on Earth.'" --W. Bruce Cameron Opinions expressed are my own unless otherwise noted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bbatchel at memlane.com Fri Mar 31 14:02:58 2000 From: bbatchel at memlane.com (bbatchel@memlane.com) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: NT4, IE4.2, and FLASH -- Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00Mar31.120300mst.115201@trojan.shortgrass-lib.ab.ca> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1399 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20000331/1236424a/attachment.bin From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Fri Mar 31 13:58:05 2000 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew I. Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] NT4, IE4.2, and FLASH -- Problems In-Reply-To: <00Mar31.120300mst.115201@trojan.shortgrass-lib.ab.ca> Message-ID: You can get a fix for the IE 5.0 Run "bug" at Bob Sullivan's site: http://www.scpl.org/publicnt/ Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 bbatchel@memlane.com wrote: > 0100,0100,0100Hi > > > On our public internet workstations, we are having a problem getting > FLASH to run with the PUBLIC login. We are using the Policy Table to > limit PUBLIC's access. FLASH works great on the ADMIN login. > > > Public gets this error when access a web page with FLASH content > > > FF00,0000,0000error occurred copying swflash.ocx > > from c:\temp\ICD2.tmp\swflash.ocx > > to c:\winnt\system32\macromed\flash\swflash.ocx > > > error #5 > > > 0000,0000,0000We treated it as a file access problem and have given PUBLIC full > access to all the drive and directories mentioned but the error will > not go away. > > > We cannot understand why FLASH wants to copy the file as it already > exists in the destination directory! > > > Macromedia cannot tell us what the problem is. > > MS has lots of error 5 messages on their troubleshooting site but no > connection with the FLASH software. > > > We have IE4 with service pack 2. We are unable to use IE5 as it > opens up the RUN command to our users or alternatively blocks access > to address input in the address bar. > > > Does anyone have any ideas?? > > > TIA > > > Bob > > > > > > Bob Batchelder, Technical Services Coordinator > Shortgrass Library System > 2375 10th Ave SW > Medicine Hat, Alberta, T1A 8G2, Canada > > phone 403 / 529-0550; fax: 403 / 528-2473 > e-mail: bbatchel@memlane.com > http://www.shortgrass-lib.ab.ca > From SCP_SULLI at sals.edu Fri Mar 31 14:38:31 2000 From: SCP_SULLI at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: NT4, IE and Flash Message-ID: <000331143831.fd0f@sals.edu> (crossposted to both lists on which the question appeared) >error occurred copying swflash.ocx >from c:\temp\ICD2.tmp\swflash.ocx >to c:\winnt\system32\macromed\flash\swflash.ocx I have seen this error with some other software. Sometimes I had to grant write access to C:\Winnt, hardly a suitable solution. >We cannot understand why FLASH wants to copy the file as it already >exists in the destination directory! Same here. >Macromedia cannot tell us what the problem is. Scary, but not surprising. From my observations, I would say that some software is not fully set up until you use it for the first time, and if you install it and configure your accounts without actually starting it, it may well try to do something which it no longer has rights to. If you start it as Administrator and copy those settings to your public profile, it may work. Adobe Acrobat 4.05, for example, now asks you to accept a license agreement the first time you run it. If your account is secured, it might not be able to write those settings. We've never had this problem with Flash, but all of our installations are complete wipes and reinstalls. Cuts down on this kind of problem quite a bit. >We have IE4 with service pack 2. We are unable to use IE5 as it >opens up the RUN command to our users or alternatively blocks access >to address input in the address bar. No problem. Some list members may remember that I had contacted MS about this, and they sent me a test fix. Their Knowledge Base still says it hasn't been fully tested , and that you have to contact them for it. I did make it available on my own site a month ago at . I've been running it for almost 6 weeks (NT4/SP6a, IE 5.01) with no apparent problems. The MS support person was very helpful, but I suppose they have their own procedures to follow to make sure it doesn't blow up some combination of hardware and software. Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org From jkup at jkup.net Fri Mar 31 15:19:01 2000 From: jkup at jkup.net (John Kupersmith) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: link to site with free on-line books In-Reply-To: <200003311637.IAA27079@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000331121901.007e95b0@mail.sirius.com> re Kay McCoy's question: >Somewhere I have seen a URL for a web site that offers free >on-line browsing of professional computing books. Possibly >it is a publisher that gives sneak previews of newly - or >soon to be - published books. The O'Reilly Books web site < http://www.oreilly.com > offers sample chapters from many of their publications. These are highly-regarded and generally useful books, besides having wonderful animal engravings on the covers. Their site is organized into "Resource Centers" on topics that include Windows and Security. --jk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Kupersmith jkup@jkup.net http://www.jkup.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Internet Services Librarian Assistant Reference Librarian Washoe County Library System University of California Reno, NV (telecommuting) Berkeley, CA http://www.washoe.lib.nv.us http://www.lib.berkeley.edu ~~~~~~~~~~Not speaking for either employer in this message~~~~~~~~~ From cathy_cox at wvmccd.cc.ca.us Fri Mar 31 15:36:37 2000 From: cathy_cox at wvmccd.cc.ca.us (Cathy Cox) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Why do children like big type? In-Reply-To: <38E0468C.5E24C99A@qglibrary.org.il> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000331121628.00a064e0@mcmail> Because children's ability to distinguish letters and the separations between words develops over time, and only once they become truly proficient readers can they handle smaller type fonts. That's why children's books intended for early readers often use larger type sizes, and why kids who are learning to read & write make large letters. I was told by a teacher at my daughter's school (daughter is in third grade - 8 1/2 right now) that by the time a child is reading at the fourth or fifth grade level they can definitely handle the smaller type sizes, but before that many kids have trouble with smaller fonts. So maybe you need to keep the screens at lower resolutions and somewhat larger type for the kids - although 20 seems a bit large; I would expect 18 would be plenty large enough. Just as a side note, I've also discovered that many other patrons prefer larger fonts or lower-res settings. Many older patrons or people with vision impairments find that the higher-resolution settings are very difficult to read. One of the interesting things about trying to meet accessibility guidelines is that it's not just people with "disabilities" who benefit, but many people who might be able to manage without special accomodations but who find things more comfortable or easier to use because of the changes. Catherine Cox Electronic Resources Librarian Mission College Santa Clara, CA At 10:43 PM 3/27/00 -0800, you wrote: >I am working in a library. We offer PC's for typing homework and PC's >for web surfing. Here are some observations I have accumulated during my >work here. > >I have noticed that children like to see BIG type on their screens and >papers. > >When starting a new document, a child would first change the type size >to 20 or more. Only then he/she would start typing. (The default type >size in our templates is 12 points.) They want to "fill" the pages with >their text. > >Whenever they can, children will change the screen resolution to >640X480. They like to see BIG text on their screen. They don't care that >they see less information. They don't mind scrolling. They don't care >the low-res is low-tech. > >It seems that when children see BIG, they feel that they get "more >value". They "love" the opportunity to make things bigger, thus better. > >Because I am responsible for setting up the computers in the library, I >have set them up according to MY preferences (hi-res=more >information=small text). I have also designed the library's web site to >be better seen using 800X600 (640X480 optional). > >I wonder if I should try to "educate" children to "see small" or setup >the computers according to their preferences. > >(cross posted to chi-web and web4lib) >-- >Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il >***Love and Peace*** From plum at ulink.net Fri Mar 31 15:47:52 2000 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Why do children like big type? References: <4.2.0.58.20000331121628.00a064e0@mcmail> Message-ID: <005401bf9b52$6308ae00$4a14a0d1@ycxfssto> Well stated. I would like to further point out that children and others who are just learning to read are recognizing individual characters rather than whole words. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy Cox To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Why do children like big type? > Because children's ability to distinguish letters and the separations > between words develops over time, and only once they become truly > proficient readers can they handle smaller type fonts. That's why > children's books intended for early readers often use larger type sizes, > and why kids who are learning to read & write make large letters. > > I was told by a teacher at my daughter's school (daughter is in third grade > - 8 1/2 right now) that by the time a child is reading at the fourth or > fifth grade level they can definitely handle the smaller type sizes, but > before that many kids have trouble with smaller fonts. So maybe you need to > keep the screens at lower resolutions and somewhat larger type for the kids > - although 20 seems a bit large; I would expect 18 would be plenty large > enough. > > Just as a side note, I've also discovered that many other patrons prefer > larger fonts or lower-res settings. Many older patrons or people with > vision impairments find that the higher-resolution settings are very > difficult to read. One of the interesting things about trying to meet > accessibility guidelines is that it's not just people with "disabilities" > who benefit, but many people who might be able to manage without special > accomodations but who find things more comfortable or easier to use because > of the changes. > > Catherine Cox > Electronic Resources Librarian > Mission College > Santa Clara, CA > > At 10:43 PM 3/27/00 -0800, you wrote: > >I am working in a library. We offer PC's for typing homework and PC's > >for web surfing. Here are some observations I have accumulated during my > >work here. > > > >I have noticed that children like to see BIG type on their screens and > >papers. > > > >When starting a new document, a child would first change the type size > >to 20 or more. Only then he/she would start typing. (The default type > >size in our templates is 12 points.) They want to "fill" the pages with > >their text. > > > >Whenever they can, children will change the screen resolution to > >640X480. They like to see BIG text on their screen. They don't care that > >they see less information. They don't mind scrolling. They don't care > >the low-res is low-tech. > > > >It seems that when children see BIG, they feel that they get "more > >value". They "love" the opportunity to make things bigger, thus better. > > > >Because I am responsible for setting up the computers in the library, I > >have set them up according to MY preferences (hi-res=more > >information=small text). I have also designed the library's web site to > >be better seen using 800X600 (640X480 optional). > > > >I wonder if I should try to "educate" children to "see small" or setup > >the computers according to their preferences. > > > >(cross posted to chi-web and web4lib) > >-- > >Hanan Cohen - http://www.info.org.il > >***Love and Peace*** From dbell at loc.gov Fri Mar 31 16:41:11 2000 From: dbell at loc.gov (Danna Bell-Russel) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: Announcement of Puerto Rico at the Dawn of the Modern Age on American Memory Message-ID: <38E51B77.E95C754E@loc.gov> Puerto Rico at the Dawn of the Modern Age: Nineteenth and Early Twentieth Century Perspectives portrays the early history of the commonwealth of Puerto Rico through first-person accounts, political writings, and histories drawn from the Library of Congress's General Collections. Among the topics it highlights are the land and its resources, relations with Spain, the competition among political parties, reform efforts, and recollections by veterans of the Spanish-American War. The materials in the collection were published between 1831 and 1929 and consist of 39 political pamphlets, 18 monographs, and 1 journal. The large majority of materials in this collection are in Spanish. This collection can be found at Please direct any questions to ndlpcoll@loc.gov From ylef at usd.edu Fri Mar 31 17:59:03 2000 From: ylef at usd.edu (Yuliya V Lef) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IDC Message-ID: Hi. We are using Internet Database Connector (IDC) to allow our patrons to search for the information that reside on several Access Databases. Right now, we use separate sets of .idc, .htx, and .html files for each database. However, we would like to be able to search several databases simultaneously. I've looked through a number of IDC tutorials and haven't found an example that would allow such search. Does anyone know if it is possible? If not, can anyone suggest using something different? Thank you so much. --------------------------- Yuliya Lef Web Resources Librarian I.D. Weeks Library University of South Dakota Vermillion, SD 57069 Phone: (605) 677-6615 Email: ylef@usd.edu From stbowers at lj.cahners.com Fri Mar 31 20:39:32 2000 From: stbowers at lj.cahners.com (Bowers, Stacey (Cahners-NYC)) Date: Wed May 18 15:05:02 2005 Subject: THIS WEEK ON LJDIGITAL, 4/3/00 -- PLA Exclusive! 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