From lisayang+ at pitt.edu Fri Mar 1 08:26:29 1996 From: lisayang+ at pitt.edu (Li-chueh Yang) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: Macintosh WWW Server Information (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >From this site, you will find the link to the home page for MacHTTP, which is > soon to become known as WebStar. > MacHTTP has been known as WebStar for quite some time. It's a product of Starnine: http://www.starnine.com/ Starnine's pages have a lot of good starting points. For those schools w/o Macs, WebStar is a very good choice as a www server; for those with Macs, it's probably a great choice. From ax706 at freenet.toronto.on.ca Fri Mar 1 09:00:13 1996 From: ax706 at freenet.toronto.on.ca (Robert A. Paterson) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: Rasmol, Wintab, Mathreader Message-ID: I was wondering if folks on this list have experience with any or all of the following 1. Rasmol Visualization Program -- a molecular graphics program 2. Wintab -- a freeware graphics waveform manipulation program 3. Mathreader -- the Mathematica notebook reader I have been tinkering with the apps feature on our Netscape browsers, looking at file formats as well as "good resources" in those formats, with the intention of including some of these resources in our forthcoming web service here at North York Public Library. I have looked at impressive examples of the three formats. However, I knew nothing about these applications until I "discovered" them for myself a few days ago -- my background and my interests are, I'm afraid, rooted in the humanities -- and in a year or so of lurking on this list I cannot recall anyone ever mentioning any one of the three. I would appreciate hearing from those with any knowledge of, or experience with, any one or all of these three -- orsimilar apps for that matter. Sincerely Bob Paterson ax706@freenet.toronto.on.ca http://mothra.syr.edu:102014/index.html From pem at po.CWRU.Edu Fri Mar 1 09:24:47 1996 From: pem at po.CWRU.Edu (Peter Murray) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: Incorporating username/password in http URL OR GET ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Feb 1996 lbspodic@uxmail.ust.hk wrote: > Thanks for your help! If anyone has already written such a custom cgi > which we could modify (or use straight off), please let me know. I'm going to have to write one for a service that our library is subscribing to this month. Assuming I can make it general enough (and no one else speaks up), I'll post it back to the WEB4LIB list when I get it done. Peter -- Peter Murray, Senior Systems Analyst pem@po.cwru.edu Library Information Technologies http://www.cwru.edu/home/pem.html Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio W:216-368-8989 From STLIFER at LJ.CAHNERS.COM Fri Mar 1 11:00:35 1996 From: STLIFER at LJ.CAHNERS.COM (Evan St. Lifer) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: WWW made EZ? -Reply Message-ID: I read an earlier thread by "Brian" giving the following address for "Running a WWW service" but got back a message saying that the site has no data. Anyone have an updated URL or another address to obtain that info? http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ucs/WWW/handbook/handbook.html Thanks, Evan St. Lifer Senior Editor Library Journal From b.kelly at newcastle.ac.uk Fri Mar 1 11:36:20 1996 From: b.kelly at newcastle.ac.uk (Brian Kelly) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: WWW made EZ? -Reply Message-ID: <199603011641.QAA09526@burnmoor.ncl.ac.uk> > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:07:47 -0800 > Reply-to: STLIFER@lj.cahners.com > From: "Evan St. Lifer" > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: WWW made EZ? -Reply > I read an earlier thread by "Brian" giving the following address for > "Running a WWW service" but got back a message saying that the site > has no data. Anyone have an updated URL or another address to obtain > that info? > > http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ucs/WWW/handbook/handbook.html It's still available at that location. If you have problems, try one of the mirror locations: UK http://info.mcc.ac.uk/CGU/SIMA/handbook/handbook.html http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ucs/WWW/handbook/handbook.html http://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/WWW_handbook/ ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/WWW/WWW_handbook/ USA http://scholar2.lib.vt.edu/handbook/handbook.html http://www.hcc.hawaii.edu/handbook/handbook.html http://www.cc.gatech.edu/cns/handbook/ Australia http://www.nla.gov.au/lis/inet/pubs/brian_kelly/handbook.html http://dino.tafe.sa.edu.au/documents/handbook/ Austria http://iuinfo.tuwien.ac.at/htdocs/kelly/handbook.html Finland http://www.uiah.fi/~artnet/handbook.html Greece http://www.cti.gr/internet/WWW_handbook/ Hungary http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/WWW/books/handbook/handbook.html http://www.szote.u-szeged.hu/mirror/WWW_handbook/handbook.html Italy http://risc220.piaggio.cba.unige.it/handbook/handbook.html http://www.link.it:8000/link/handbook/ (English version) http://www.link.it:8000/link/handbook-i/ (Italian version) http://www.crs4.it/~zip/handbook/handbook.html Korea http://cair.kaist.ac.kr/www/intro/handbook/handbook.html Netherlands ftp://ftp.nic.surfnet.nl/mirror-archive/resources/www-handbook/src/handbook.html http://www.konbib.nl/ http://www.nic.surfnet.nl/ Poland http://www.cc.uni.torun.pl/www-handbook/handbook.html http://www.polsl.gliwice.pl/e-books/HTML/handbook.html Portugal http://www.di.uminho.pt/ftp/Incoming/WWWhandbook/handbook.html ftp://ftp.di.uminho.pt/Incoming/WWWhandbook/handbook.html Slovenia http://www.arnes.si/books/www-handbook Sweden http://www.ub2.lu.se/kelly/handbook.html http://www.sics.se/~preben/BKelly/handbook.html Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/WWW/handbook/ Brian Kelly -------------------------------------------------- Brian Kelly Netskills - see http://www.netskills.ac.uk/ Computing Service University of Newcastle Newcastle-upon-Tyne B.Kelly@newcastle.ac.uk NE1 7RU 0191 222 5002 From lwilliam at nslsilus.org Fri Mar 1 16:27:43 1996 From: lwilliam at nslsilus.org (Lesley Williams) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: WWW made EZ? In-Reply-To: <199602291500.KAA08004@rabbit.INS.CWRU.Edu> Message-ID: Jeff, You might try the "Internet Newbie's Page" at http://www.interlog.com/~csteele/newbie.html It has some great FAQs on Web searching, Netiquette, email, etc. Lesley Williams, Electronic Resources Specialist Arlington Heights Memorial Library Arlington Heights IL 60004 lwilliam@nslsilus.org 847-506-2667 (phone) 847-392-0136 (fax) Opinions and information given above are personal, and do not reflect official library policy or statements. On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Jeff Curtis wrote: > Is there some kind of basic "How to use the WWW" kind of document out > there somewhere that we can put up on our pages for folks who are not > really too technically advanced or familiar with computers or the > internet? > > thanks > Jeff Curtis > Librarian > MSASS/Case Western Reserve University > > From cwt at exis.net Sat Mar 2 14:02:18 1996 From: cwt at exis.net (C. W. Tazewell) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:53 2005 Subject: World Wide Web Digital Library System Message-ID: WORLD WIDE WEB DIGITAL LIBRARY SYSTEM A Two-Way Window for the World's Information The typical Internet user does not have the time, patience, or skill to "surf the Web." He needs things organized in a convenient place to save him time and frustration. Most would not need to go any further than his local digital library. The Tazewell Plan for The WWW Digital Library System could be in place by the year 2000. Theoretically (but only in theory) all Web Sites could be linked at one master worldwide WWW site. Obviously, this would overburden long-distance circuits. The Emergence of the Regional Digital Library The World Central WWW Digital Library Site would be mirrored to Regional Digital Libraries. A large country would have a number of Regional Digital Library sites, and some countries would only have one, or be served by a nearby one. To supplement this there would be metropolitan/community digital libraries in each local area. They would have the most important function of providing local data and information to the rest of the world. They would also bring in the rest of the world through links to the nearest Regional Digital Library. Two-way Window to the World The local digital library will be a 2-way window to the world. It will bring in material from all parts of the planet. But, importantly, it will furnish the local info to the rest of the world. It will be the main source for disseminating this local info. This local data must be in a central place so it will be readily available to the rest of the globe. Thus, anyone in the world would be able to get almost all of the material that they wanted from their local metropolitan or community digital library. This would be the basic framework of the world wide system. Home Pages Building Block for System The basic building block for the worldwide system will be be individual home pages of each business, school, and organization. These would be linked at the metropolitan digital library. It would be setup so that various sections of the home pages on specific subjects can be selected and accessed or linked separately. The metropolitan digital library would not normally be the repository of data and information. This material would be at home pages of the various organizations and other sources. This arrangement would be necessary for updatng the material, which would be handled at the source home page. Each person would have his local digital library as his browser home page. Generally people would not have to go any farther than this home page since he could point to all the links on the local digital library which would include the links on the major Regional Digital Library, which would mirror the primary world-wide center site. Bear in mind that by 2000 many homes and business will have a 24-hour connection to the local digital library over a fiber-optic cable. This would give full TV and other multimedia service from the local digital library. Why Drive? - Just Click! Now library users drive to their traditional library to check out video tapes. Then they will be able to access or download them from the digital library. Traditional libraries now receive magazines electronically from The Internet by Information Access Infotrac 2000 Magazines ASAP, and/or by CD ROM. These will be available thru the local digital library. The local digital library will be a primary source of multimedia data, news, information and services of all kinds. It will serve everybody - business, the professionals, schools, students, and the public. The ultimate result must be convenient and easy to use. The WWW has tremenduous possibilities, but needs a dedicated and knowledgeable person to use it effectively. The average person doesn't have the time, patience, or interest to become an expert Web Surfer. The Internet needs to be as much as possible like the present TV remote control - point, click and go. The local Digital Library is the answer. Soon the Internet and other online services will be part of the entertainment, work or study center, which will include complete integration of the present TV, stereo, VCR, etc. These will all work thru the home and business microcomputer. The Dim Future of the University Professor Eli M. Noam of Columbia University spoke at a seminar at George Washington University on "Electronics and the Dim Future of the University" and discussed the several fundamental challenges to the future of universities as the centers of research and higher education. He mentioned that the growth of electronic media and communication has provided new tools for academics, but also poses new challenges. He explained that one result of the rapid increase in the production and dissemination of information is that the advantage of physical proximity of researchers to universities is diminished. "The strength of the university of the future may lie less in being pure centers of information and more in college as a community." Billions for the Internet in Every Classroom Who are the kids going to "point" to? There has to be a suitable, simple, easy to access place. It has been stated that "the control center of the future school would be the media center." The local digital library will be the community "media center" for all schools. The University has always been the keystone and leader of the education efforts. But Distance Learning and other concepts based on electronic media are radidly changing things. We should now consider the changing role of educational institutions and the emerging roles of the metropolitan digital library. We are all interested in and concerned about education and libraries of the future. And, it is important to share views and ideas on the Library of the Future. There is a need for setting up pilot projects leading towards the 24-hour fiber-optic digital, virtual library concept. The Hampton Roads Central Library is a prototype of the 21st-century Digital Library. Jack and Jill - and Little Joe I don't know of any existing online library that earnestly tries to serve Jack and Jill Citizen, and little Joe - except The Hampton Roads Central Library. It is a prototype of the public digital library. It is a library of the future for the people. As there are more and more local Internet providers, and more and more local information is placed on Web Sites, it will be harder and harder to find the stuff. (There are almost two dozen local providers in the Hampton Roads area now.) Bits and pieces of info and data will be hidden (or duplicated) here and there. YOUR Internet World Wide Web HOTLIST Public Bookmark Center Why hunt the Web? It's on your local digital library. Businessmen, investers, and travel prospects (as examples) in Russia, Australia, South Africa, Kansas, etc., etc., will want info on Hampton Roads and Virginia. They won't know about the little pieces of info "treasure" hidden here and there, and won't have the time or interest to hunt for it. The local information and data must be consolidated in a central place locally so the world (and we) can find it. Also, there is the problem of a suitable archives for local info. Valuable data placed on a site for a short while and then removed and not available from then on is not the answer. The local area digital library will effectively serve all aspects of education - and the public. The local area digital library can serve everybody in the local area without extensive duplication at each institution. "You don't drive to it; you point to it." It will save time, gas and money, just as other forms of Distance Learning. The cherished morsels of info and data in various local sites must be linked to the Digital Library where they can be easily found and used. And, it will be better to have one good info and data bank than a number of duplicating, incomplete and inaccessable ones. And, time is wasted duplicating local info that's also on another site. Gotta be able to find it. Hold on to your hat! The library world is changing very rapidly. The U. S. Postal Service is setting up information "library" kiosks. There will soon be branch library kiosks in the malls. I understand that the University of California is building a university campus without a library building. Distance Learning will be used off-campus increasingly by universities, colleges, and high schools, etc. As the years go by the public schools and public libraries will become more and more community centers. Gotta Be Able To Find It - Easily The ulitimate users of the information on the World Wide Web and in digital libraries will be the general public. The average citizen must have a suitable source for his information with extremely easy access. It should be "point, click and go." For more about digital libraries, visit the Professional Librarians' Sections. Use the Staff Entrance over by the soda machines and restrooms. URLs http://www.infi.net/~cwt/intro.html http://wwwp.exis.net/~cwt/tva-plhp.html Let's go to work! Sm:)es, Bill. The Hampton Roads Central Library (You don't drive to it; you point to it.) Your *REASON* to have the Internet Digital Library of Hampton Roads E A S Y L I N K S Front Entrance Your WWW Hotlist http://wwwp.exis.net/~cwt/ http://www.infi.net/~cwt/easylink.html From R124C41 at aol.com Tue Mar 5 08:36:59 1996 From: R124C41 at aol.com (R124C41@aol.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199603051336.IAA14315@emout05.mail.aol.com> to the outsourcing advert, I would like to say that at least it did not misrepresent itself....what disturbs me more are postings that purport to be even handed discussions of technical issues leading to some conclusion which just "happens" to imply a for-profit single source procurement when they are in fact biased hypes for a product--either intentionally so or done just out of enthusiasm. --David Ritchie --R124C41@AOL.COM From sdavids at nal.usda.gov Tue Mar 5 09:30:32 1996 From: sdavids at nal.usda.gov (Sherry Davids) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Outsourcing Advert In-Reply-To: <199603051336.IAA14315@emout05.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: I would just like to add that I found the advertisement of interest. Our library, faced with limited resources (both human and financial), is looking at different ways to code large numbers of documents. It's helpful to know about alternatives. Sherry Davids National Agricultural Library [My opinions are mine and not necessarily those of NAL] On Tue, 5 Mar 1996 R124C41@aol.com wrote: > to the outsourcing advert, I would like to say that at least it did > not misrepresent itself....what disturbs me more are postings that purport to > be even handed discussions of technical issues leading to some conclusion > which just "happens" to imply a for-profit single source procurement when > they are in fact biased hypes for a product--either intentionally so or done > just out of enthusiasm. > > --David Ritchie > --R124C41@AOL.COM > From marc at ckm.ucsf.edu Tue Mar 5 10:28:50 1996 From: marc at ckm.ucsf.edu (Marc Salomon) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Outsourcing Advert Message-ID: <199603051528.AA19148@library.ucsf.edu > Sherry Davids wrote: |I would just like to add that I found the advertisement of interest. Our |library, faced with limited resources (both human and financial), is |looking at different ways to code large numbers of documents. It's |helpful to know about alternatives. Few of us are swimming in surplus resources, and subcontracting is always an option. But if this advertisement is allowed to be posted, where does the line get drawn? There are other forums for advertising, both on the net and in print, to which we all have access. Let's keep the for-profit content in its proper place, and the jobs in our communities instead of "offshore" infosweatshops. -marc From LUCKDL at APSU01.APSU.EDU Tue Mar 5 11:12:56 1996 From: LUCKDL at APSU01.APSU.EDU (LUCKDL@APSU01.APSU.EDU) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: web master salaries Message-ID: <01I1Z4VNJC9U0001RN@APSU01.APSU.EDU> A quick question that needs some quick answers (the budget deadline is approaching): We're writing job descriptions for web managers - one to handle writing/ proofing/teaching/coordinating, and one for graphic design/photography/ scripting. Both will need basic HTML knowledge. Does anyone have any salary ranges for positions like these? I know we're not going to be able to afford experience, so what can college grads expect in these sorts of positions? (These positions are going to be in Public Relations, not the library.) Any guidelines will be helpful. DeAnne Luck Electronic Resources Librarian Austin Peay State University LuckDL@apsu01.apsu.edu Home of the NCAA-bound OVC Champion Govenors AND the NCAA-bound OVC Champion Lady Govs!!!!!! From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 5 15:09:29 1996 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Web4Lib Archive now searchable Message-ID: I am very pleased to announce that we are now offering searching of the Web4Lib archive. Besides being able to search a year's worth of Web4Lib messages (over 3,300 messages) by keyword, you can also limit your search to message subject lines. In putting this up, I decided to split off the archive into a separate page, which is available from the Web4Lib page or directly at: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive.html New messages are added to the database every day, in the middle of the night California time. Therefore, the database should never be more than 24 hours old. I would like to thank the following individuals who made this possible: Janet Garey and Campbell Crabtree at UC Berkeley, and John Millard at Miami University in Ohio. We spent a bit of time making it work (and look and feel) the way we wanted, and I hope that you will find it as useful as I already have. Those of you who wish to add Web4Lib archive searching to your own pages may do so by copying and pasting the HTML fragment provided below in your page. Thanks, Roy Tennant Web4Lib Owner
Search only message subjects.
From jmk at Synopsys.COM Tue Mar 5 15:44:04 1996 From: jmk at Synopsys.COM (Janet Kaul) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Job openings Message-ID: <199603052044.MAA16670@guenevere.synopsys.com> In addition to the job posted below, there's also an opening for Project Manager of this electronic library. Needs good project management and people skills as well as web knowledge. Email me back with interest. The company is Synopsys, located in beautiful Mountain View, CA. -Janet ----- Begin Included Message ----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Job Title: . . EC Electronic Library Engineer Job Description: Demonstrate strong interpersonal and communication skills. S/he should be capable of writing proposals and papers, acting as a vendor liaison, and working closely with upper management. Needed are abilities to solve problems quickly and completely, and to identify tasks requiring automation and automate them. A solid understanding of networking/distributed computing environment concepts (including principles of routing, client/server programming, the design of consistent network-wide file system layouts) will also be needed. S/he should also have experience in programming in an administrative language (Tk, Perl, C-shell, Bourne shell, etc.), as well as writing C programs and porting C programs from one platform to another. A strong sense of responsibility and professionalism is required, as well as enthusiasm for communication, client contact, and customer satisfaction. Experience: At least one year managing a WWW site is required. Experience as a UNIX system administrator is desirable. Software development experience, preferably including development of applications for network technologies. technical understanding of Internet based Information Systems, including such technologies as the World Wide Web, Gopher, text indexing and searching, and FTP is highly desirable. Programming experience with the following: C, C++, shell scripts (sh, csh), Perl. Understanding of HTTP/HTML and TCP/IP. Knowledge of 3d-party Internet vendors & tools desired. Education: BS in CS/EE or equivalent experience. ----- End Included Message ----- From cameron at beta.loyno.edu Tue Mar 5 11:08:46 1996 From: cameron at beta.loyno.edu (Robert Cameron) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers Message-ID: I haven't seen this discussed on web4lib before so I hope it is of general interest. I'll be glad to summarize for the list if it seems appropriate. We'd like to replace several of our older public printers with either ink jet or (inexpensive) laser printers but don't have a clue about which ones might be best for public use. Any recommendations about good or bad printers would be appreciated. Also, is anyone acquiring color printers for public use? Also, since we're moving from printing plain old text to the wonderful world of graphical printing, is the assumption that we'll be using more and more ink a valid one? Our printing costs are already high enough but with toner cartridges in the $20 - $30 range (as opposed to the $10 - $20 range of our good old ThinkJets) we anticipate increased supply costs. Any comments? Thanks! Robert Cameron Loyola University Library (New Orleans) cameron@beta.loyno.edu From perez at opac.osl.state.or.us Tue Mar 5 18:20:44 1996 From: perez at opac.osl.state.or.us (Ernest Perez) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: "Make Connections" Web Site] Message-ID: <313CCC4C.77C3@opac.osl.state.or.us> LIBRARIES & COMMUNITIES ON THE NET... ------------------------------------- The "Make Connections" OLA/PLS Preconference Web page is at: http://sparkie.osl.state.or.us:8000/connect/connect.htm It's filled with links related to library and community networking efforts, and associated topics. "Make Connections" is a preconference at the joint meeting of the Public Library Association and the Oregon Library Association, in Portland OR. This preconference meeting is on March 26, 1996, from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. The meeting is cosponsored by the Oregon State Library, Apple Computers, Inc., and the Oregon Library Association. "Make Connections" will focus on the role of public libraries in community networking. There's lots of experienced people, with tales of successes, for sure some "How I done it good" anecdotes, and a lot of "How we coulda done it better" reflections. The event is hosted by Steve Cisler, of Apple Computers, Inc., and a popular LJ columnist. Speakers include: Ann Bishop, Univ. of Illinois; Andrew Blau, Benton Foundation; Doug Schuler, Seattle Community Network; and Frank Odasz, Big Sky Telegraph (Montana). The Web page will be available on World Wide Web terminals on the conference exhibit floor. However, it's up for your explorations right now...so you may want to check it out before the conference.... -ernest Ernest Perez, Ph.D. Oregon State Library 503-378-4243, ext 257 From BENNETR at fsa.wosc.osshe.edu Tue Mar 5 17:05:33 1996 From: BENNETR at fsa.wosc.osshe.edu (Roy Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: ScreenCam helper setup Message-ID: <7D86B5112@fsa.wosc.osshe.edu> We use Lotus ScreenCam to create short demos of Netscape actions (e.g., how to download Web text). A Netscape helper application is setup to allow in-library users to view the demos from a html page. The helper application, Lotus ScreenCam player (scplayer.exe), can be distributed free of charge. I am getting ready to make these demos available on a public Web page. What is the proper helper application designation for ScreenCam? Since the demo files have the extension .scm that is the extension I used for the helper application. I understand that there is some organization that standardizes helper designation extensions. Am I on sound ground to use .scm for the browser helper application? I'm thinking about giving instruction on how to setup the helper app and how to download scplayer.exe. Thanks. -------------------------------- Roy Bennett College Library Coordinator of Library Electronic Resources Western Oregon State College 345 N. Monmouth Ave. Monmouth, OR 97361-1396 Email: bennetr@fsa.wosc.osshe.edu Voice: (503) 838-8893 Fax: (503) 838-8399 From metart3 at metgate.metro.org Tue Mar 5 18:28:09 1996 From: metart3 at metgate.metro.org (Kenneth Soehner) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT SYSTEMS LIBRARIAN, Thomas J. Watson Library, The Metropolitan Museum of Art RESPONSIBILITIES: Maintains and coordinates the Library's electronic resources, including the OPAC (Innovative Interfaces), LAN, access to RLIN, CD ROMS, Internet, WWW resources and other electronic media. Supports the research and educational needs of the staff and other scholarly patrons through the use of technology. Recommends and supports library systems, software and hardware. Provides technical training and assistance to library staff. Informs library staff of systems developments and works with appropriate individuals to implement system enhancements and modifications. Works with the Museum Systems and Computer Services Department, and with the independant and departmental libraries within the system. QUALIFICATIONS: Masters degree in Library or Information Science required; experience with library integrated systems and RLIN is essential; thorough understanding of MARC format and bibliographic control, and knowledge of computer based resources and services, including library networks, Internet and WWW required. Experience with current information system applications, personal computer technology and networks is expected. Ability to communicate effectively both orally and in writing to technical and non-technical users. Applicants should mail a current resume to Department SL, Human Resources, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1000 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10028. From jpearce at u.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 18:54:07 1996 From: jpearce at u.washington.edu (John Pearce) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Advertising on the list In-Reply-To: <9603051030.AA30148@library.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: Roy, I think you're right to let relevant ads in. If we had a budget for it, we would consider something like outsourcing for large web projects. I suspect that what rankles about ads is when they masquerade as something else. Larry Whitacker was extremely polite (as net advertisers go) to ask before posting. But even he didn't think to put "Commercial:" or such early on in his message or his subject line. It would have helped. John Pearce U.W. Health Sciences Library Microlab From R124C41 at aol.com Wed Mar 6 09:55:17 1996 From: R124C41 at aol.com (R124C41@aol.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers Message-ID: <960306095516_161580408@emout06.mail.aol.com> In regard to the question posed by Robert Cameron, Loyola University Library (New Orleans) [cameron@beta.loyno.edu] concerning recommendations for public webstation printers... --------------------------- Let me make the following radical proposal. Provide **no** printers at public webstations. Instead, provide the Adobe Acrobat PDFwriter and floppy disks to which users of public webstations can "print" (in PDF format) via the usual web browser print capability. In addition, arrange with Adobe (this will not take much) to provide the free Adobe Acrobat Reader program on a disk that individuals may take away with them to install and use on their home computer. In this way, you will be doing the users a favor in not letting their information suffer the heat death of getting transformed onto paper media. You will also, I believe, save on consumables. And finally, if the users really do want to print the stuff on paper, they can do it on their home computer where they stand the entire cost. Isn't this the right way to go? Isn't this the direction we are all heading? Isn't it important to encourage users to go this direction too? --David Ritchie --R124C41@AOL.COM --Naperville, IL --http://members.aol.com/RitchieDJ From ifrank at dudley.lib.usf.edu Wed Mar 6 10:26:25 1996 From: ifrank at dudley.lib.usf.edu (Ilene Frank (REF)) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers In-Reply-To: <960306095516_161580408@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On the idea of having no printers at public workstations in libraries: If the web's gonna be a front end to databases like FirstSearch and your OPAC, people will appreciate printers. They'll like getting hard copy of citations, call numbers, and locations. Ilene Frank, Reference Dept. Tampa Campus Library, LIB 122, University of South Florida, Tampa FL 33620 ifrank@lib.usf.edu voice mail (813) 974-2483 From patrickf at library.tmc.edu Wed Mar 6 11:03:24 1996 From: patrickf at library.tmc.edu (patrickf@library.tmc.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers Message-ID: <9602068261.AA826135451@Library.tmc.edu> Um, aren't we forgetting the estimated 80% of the U.S. population without home computers? "Heat death?" Sounds awful. But then, so does "digital incarceration"... ********************************* Patrick Flannery Network & Systems Analyst Texas Medical Center Library 1133 M.D. Anderson Blvd. Houston, TX 77030 e-mail: patrickf@library.tmc.edu phone: (713) 799-7103 fax: (713) 790-7052 ******************************** ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: recommendations for public webstation printers Author: R124C41@aol.com at Internet Date: 3/6/96 9:47 AM In regard to the question posed by Robert Cameron, Loyola University Library (New Orleans) [cameron@beta.loyno.edu] concerning recommendations for public webstation printers... --------------------------- Let me make the following radical proposal. Provide **no** printers at public webstations. Instead, provide the Adobe Acrobat PDFwriter and floppy disks to which users of public webstations can "print" (in PDF format) via the usual web browser print capability. In addition, arrange with Adobe (this will not take much) to provide the free Adobe Acrobat Reader program on a disk that individuals may take away with them to install and use on their home computer. In this way, you will be doing the users a favor in not letting their information suffer the heat death of getting transformed onto paper media. You will also, I believe, save on consumables. And finally, if the users really do want to print the stuff on paper, they can do it on their home computer where they stand the entire cost. Isn't this the right way to go? Isn't this the direction we are all heading? Isn't it important to encourage users to go this direction too? --David Ritchie --R124C41@AOL.COM --Naperville, IL --http://members.aol.com/RitchieDJ From lhyman at mail.sdsu.edu Wed Mar 6 10:55:38 1996 From: lhyman at mail.sdsu.edu (Linda Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Advertising on the list Message-ID: I agree with this comment. It is useful to see SHORT ads that provide useful information about universal problems. Ads should probably be referenced as such ahead of time, and be limited to a predesignated range of words or lines of information...? >I think you're right to let relevant ads in. If we had a budget for it, >we would consider something like outsourcing for large web projects. >...... to put "Commercial:" >or such early on in his message or his subject line...... would have >helped. Linda Woods Hyman-Education First Initiative Pacific Bell/San Diego State University Dept. of Educational Technology San Diego CA 92182 (619) 594-4414 e-mail: lhyman@mail.sdsu.edu http://edweb.sdsu.edu/edfirst/edfirst.html Please remember to support the School/Library Protection Fund -- donate $1 on your California Tax Return. From cbearden at sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us Wed Mar 6 11:29:36 1996 From: cbearden at sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us (Charles F. Bearden) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers Message-ID: I would venture that the majority of our patrons have no other free access to computers with printers, much less to systems that will run Adobe Acrobat. For many, it's either the library or a chain of copy shops that charges for use by the hour and page. We should encourage users to print their stuff at home, but to assume that they all can at present is unrealistic. Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Bearden email: cbearden@hpl.lib.tx.us Catalog Department voice: 713/247-3499 Houston Public Library fax: 713/247-3158 500 McKinney Ave. Houston, TX 77002 NOT SPEAKING FOR HPL ------------------------------------------------------------- -=>HPL's Homepage: http://sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us<=- On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 07:16:37 -0800 R124C41@aol.com wrote: >In regard to the question posed by Robert Cameron, Loyola >University Library (New Orleans) [cameron@beta.loyno.edu] >concerning recommendations for public webstation printers... >--------------------------- >Let me make the following radical proposal. > >Provide **no** printers at public webstations. > [etc.] From deborah_simmons at macgate.csuchico.edu Wed Mar 6 09:17:46 1996 From: deborah_simmons at macgate.csuchico.edu (Deborah Simmons) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Web link checkers Message-ID: Does anyone know of a good link checker that can be downloaded for free? From Barry.Hohstadt at server.iadfw.net Wed Mar 6 06:57:46 1996 From: Barry.Hohstadt at server.iadfw.net (Barry Hohstadt) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Macintosh databases Message-ID: <199603061756.LAA12571@server.iadfw.net> We are setting up a WWW archive of html documents on a Macintosh server. We are looking for solutions for indexing and retrieval. Basically we want to provide a web browser interface for keyword searching and retrieval. Right now I am considering the Tango/Butler SQL package, and the Webcatalog by Pacific-Coast. Has anyone had experience with either of these? Any other suggestions? Thanks Barry Hohstadt University of North Texas School of Library and Information Science. barrylh@airmail.net Barry Hohstadt www.unt.edu/~bh0003/ ---------------------------- * "Look around and do what * * needs to be done next." * ---------------------------- From holtsm at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Wed Mar 6 13:17:48 1996 From: holtsm at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (E. Holtsmark) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Internet Assistant for Word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Web4Libbers, Does anyone out there in cyberspace use this tool, Internet Assistant for Word? I've downloaded it and am trying to figure it out. Does anyone know where free documentation is available? The online Help is very limited. I appreciate your assistance. _________________________________________________________________ Eva Holtsmark School of Library & Information Science, MA candidate (May 1996) The University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 52242 eva-holtsmark@uiowa.edu _________________________________________________________________ From fcervone at wppost.depaul.edu Wed Mar 6 13:34:41 1996 From: fcervone at wppost.depaul.edu (Frank Cervone) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Web link checkers -Reply Message-ID: For something that will check your entire server, try MOMspider from UC-Irvine at http://www.ics.uci.edu/WebSoft/MOMspider Frank Cervone Systems Department Head DePaul University Libraries 2350 North Kenmore Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60614 312-325-7000 ext 1114 312-325-7869 (fax) >>> Deborah Simmons 03/06/96 11:55am >>> Does anyone know of a good link checker that can be downloaded for free? From still at crab.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 6 13:45:55 1996 From: still at crab.rutgers.edu (Julie Still) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: call 4 papers Message-ID: Contributors wanted for an edited monograph on the design and implementation of library related web sites and documents. Each chapter would concern a specific project. Chapters should be 10-20 pages (double spaced) long and in English. Chapters from all types of libraries and all geographic areas welcome. For more information please contact: Julie Still Paul Robeson Library (609) 225-6034 (phone) Rutgers University 300 North Fourth Street (609) 225-6428 (fax) P. O. Box 93990 Camden, NJ 08101-3990 still@crab.rutgers.edu From mgonsalv at hawaii.edu Wed Mar 6 13:52:59 1996 From: mgonsalv at hawaii.edu (Michael Gonsalves) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers In-Reply-To: <960306095516_161580408@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: David, I think your suggestion is a very practical one, but I'm concerned about the impact it would have on the "have-nots." We are all too familiar with the disparity between the "haves" and the "have-nots" when it comes to income and wealth. A similar disparity may (does/will?) exist with respect to information. The library already is a great equalizer in the realm of printed information. I think it should serve the same role for electronic information. For the sake of those who do not have their own computers and printers, we should provide printers for our internet stations, with nominal fees to cover supplies. But I really like your idea of encouraging people to read things on-line, too. Mike Gonsalves mgonsalv@hawaii.edu or mgonsalv@uhunix.its.hawaii.edu From tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu Wed Mar 6 13:57:32 1996 From: tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Internet Assistant for Word Message-ID: <01BB0B64.DF9A7F20@grey.ohiolink.edu> I think Microsoft put it out on a "We don' need no steenking documentation!" basis. FWIW, I thinks it is a little charitable to called Internet Assistant's output "HTML". True, it creates a text file with HTML tags in it which many browser will understand, but it's a far cry from an intelligent tool to convert the structure of your document into HTML. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu ---------- From: E. Holtsmark[SMTP:holtsm@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 1996 1:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Internet Assistant for Word Web4Libbers, Does anyone out there in cyberspace use this tool, Internet Assistant for Word? I've downloaded it and am trying to figure it out. Does anyone know where free documentation is available? The online Help is very limited. I appreciate your assistance. _________________________________________________________________ Eva Holtsmark School of Library & Information Science, MA candidate (May 1996) The University of Iowa Iowa City, IA 52242 eva-holtsmark@uiowa.edu _________________________________________________________________ From iai at neosoft.com Wed Mar 6 14:46:05 1996 From: iai at neosoft.com (Kevin C. Marsh) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers Message-ID: <199603061946.NAA29044@sam.neosoft.com> David Ritchie wrote: >Let me make the following radical proposal. > >Provide **no** printers at public webstations. > >Instead, provide the Adobe Acrobat PDFwriter and floppy disks to which users >of public webstations can "print" (in PDF format) via the usual web browser >print capability. > >In addition, arrange with Adobe (this will not take much) to provide the free >Adobe Acrobat Reader program on a disk that individuals may take away with >them to install and use on their home computer. > >In this way, you will be doing the users a favor in not letting their >information suffer the heat death of getting transformed onto paper media. > You will also, I believe, save on consumables. And finally, if the users >really do want to print the stuff on paper, they can do it on their home >computer where they stand the entire cost. > >Isn't this the right way to go? Isn't this the direction we are all heading? > Isn't it important to encourage users to go this direction too? Um, would you believe NO, NO, and NO! One of the best reasons for public Web terminals is that the users DON"T HAVE HOME MACHINES! (Does everyone in your community have a home computer? Where exactly is this?) Saving to disk is certainly a valuable option for some users, although I don't see why you would want to convert perfectly good text, html, gifs, etc. into PDF. But this doesn't eliminate the need for printing capability. I personally am more likely to bookmark than save and to save than print, but I wouldn't give up having that printer available when I need it. Kevin C. Marsh, Executive Director Information Access Institute KMarsh@information.org http://information.org From mgonsalv at hawaii.edu Wed Mar 6 15:11:15 1996 From: mgonsalv at hawaii.edu (Michael Gonsalves) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Internet Assistant for Word In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eva, I have also downloaded it. It doesn't work real well. I hoped I could take a finished document in Word, save it in HTML format, and have a ready-made web-page, but no such luck. It translates some of the document correctly, but I still have to go in and manually code HTML to get the page to look right. It does save me some time in that I don't have to do everything from scratch, but the HTML it outputs is far from ready-to-publish. I guess I should add that the documents I am converting are long and have complicated formatting. It may work better for something simple. I haven't found any on-line reference for it, but then I haven't looked very hard. Good luck! Mike Gonsalves mgonsalv@hawaii.edu or mgonsalv@uhunix.its.hawaii.edu On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, E. Holtsmark wrote: > > Web4Libbers, > > Does anyone out there in cyberspace use this tool, Internet Assistant for > Word? I've downloaded it and am trying to figure it out. Does anyone > know where free documentation is available? The online Help is very limited. > > I appreciate your assistance. > _________________________________________________________________ > Eva Holtsmark > School of Library & Information Science, MA candidate (May 1996) > The University of Iowa > Iowa City, IA 52242 > eva-holtsmark@uiowa.edu > _________________________________________________________________ > > From iai at neosoft.com Wed Mar 6 15:31:21 1996 From: iai at neosoft.com (Kevin C. Marsh) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Advertisement (was Re: Advertising on the list) Message-ID: <199603062031.OAA02148@sam.neosoft.com> Linda Woods Hyman wrote: >I agree with this comment. It is useful to see SHORT ads that provide >useful information about universal problems. Ads should probably be >referenced as such ahead of time, and be limited to a predesignated range >of words or lines of information...? > >>I think you're right to let relevant ads in... Since there seems to be a consensus to accept advertisement here, I will put in a brief plug for Information Access Institute: Information Access Institute is a non-profit organization that offers consulting services to libraries, museums, archives, and other information sources. Our goal is to plan and implement Internet servers that provide high quality subject-based public access to valuable information collections in compliance with national and international standards. We are just finishing a couple of interresting projects for the Florida State Archives Photographic Collection and the Brazoria County Historical Museum. See our Web site at http://information.org for details. Our services include project planning, workload estimation, hardware, software, and network specification development, personnel resource planning, staff training, HTML authoring, WWW gateway creation for WAIS, MARC, or other databases, database importing/conversion/manipulation, catalog or indexing standards development, original cataloging, and document or image file format conversion. All of our clients are non-profit organizations or government agencies. IAI can work as a consultant, as a partner in developing collaborative grant proposals, or as a service contractor. As a non-profit organization our fees tend to be much lower than comparable commercial services. Perhaps we can be of service to some of the organizations represented on this list. Kevin C. Marsh, Executive Director Information Access Institute KMarsh@information.org http://information.org From iai at neosoft.com Wed Mar 6 15:43:34 1996 From: iai at neosoft.com (Kevin C. Marsh) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: ScreenCam helper setup Message-ID: <199603062043.OAA02985@sam.neosoft.com> Hi! Roy Bennett wrote: >...Since the demo files have the extension .scm that is the >extension I used for the helper application. I understand that there >is some organization that standardizes helper designation extensions. >Am I on sound ground to use .scm for the browser helper application? >I'm thinking about giving instruction on how to setup the helper app >and how to download scplayer.exe. Thanks. I think that what you are looking for is the MIME content-type standards. Take a look at http://info.internet.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc/files/rfc1521.txt For a simpler explanation you might want to see Ken Jenks page "Recommended File Formats for WWWDocuments", http://sd-www.jsc.nasa.gov/web_formats.html Kevin C. Marsh, Executive Director Information Access Institute KMarsh@information.org http://information.org From pkonshak.ccpl at incolsa.palni.edu Wed Mar 6 16:29:46 1996 From: pkonshak.ccpl at incolsa.palni.edu (Peter Konshak) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Clickable images in HTML Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem. I'm in the process of teaching myself some new HTML tricks, and I am trying to get clickable image maps to work. As we don't yet have a web page or web server up, my HTML documents are stored locally and I use Netscape to view them. So far, I have done the following: o Create a GIF file which meets my needs. o Use Map This! to define areas of the GIF as hotspots. o Save the information into a .map file. o Reference the image map in the HTML document. The end result is that this does not work. There appears to be one more step: tying a map file to a map name. On a web server, this would be the imagemap.conf file, which would consist of the name and path of the map file. However, since I am not actually testing this on a web server, but just through Netscape, I don't have a imagemap.conf file to use. Is there a way to set this up so it will work? Can I trick Netscape 2.0 into thinking there is an imagemap.conf file out there? Or, do I just need to create this file somewhere and add the appropriate references? Thanks. Peter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Peter Konshak Computer Technology Coordinator pkonshak.ccpl@ash.palni.edu Carmel Clay Public Library =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From mdorman at caldmed.med.miami.edu Wed Mar 6 16:44:48 1996 From: mdorman at caldmed.med.miami.edu (Michael Alan Dorman) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Web link checkers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Does anyone know of a good link checker that can be downloaded for free? Try: http://lot49.med.miami.edu/~mdorman/checklinks.html It's a perl script, and it's available under the GNU Public License (in other words, it's copyrighted freeware). The version that is currently available requires perl 5.002, though I have an only slightly older version that works with perl 5.000. I haven't tried running it on anything other than Unix systems. I'm currently working on revising it in various ways (mostly with regards to making it easily configurable, which it currently isn't), but I doubt it'll ever really be Unix-independant. If anyone wants to try it on NT or OS/2 (or even DOS, I suppose, though I'm sure it wouldn't be able to check links going off-site), please let me know the results. Its only real advantage over most other such tools (verify_links, MOMspider, WWWRobot, etc) is that instead of using http to read and check your files, it goes through your directory structure, looking at the files directly. If the accuracy of your web access logs is as important to you as ours is to us, then that can be the deciding factor right there. Mike. -- Michael Alan Dorman Head of Systems mdorman@caldmed.med.miami.edu Louis Calder Memorial Library (305) 243-5530 University of Miami Medical School From LUCKDL at APSU01.APSU.EDU Wed Mar 6 17:18:41 1996 From: LUCKDL at APSU01.APSU.EDU (LUCKDL@APSU01.APSU.EDU) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: summary re: webmaster salaries Message-ID: <01I20W2G7X5U0002SD@APSU01.APSU.EDU> I got more requests to summarize to the list than answers in response to my webmaster salary question. Here are the two answers I did get with actual numbers - if anyone else has more information I will still appreciate it. DeAnne Luck Electronic Resources Librarian Austin Peay State University LuckDL@apsu01.apsu.edu ============================================================= I recently saw a position at OHIONET (local OCLC affiliate) looking for a webmaster with some sysadmin experience and preferably an MLS. They were offering mid-20's, but IMO that's insultingly low. *Without* the systems administration and MLS, and without requiring HTML experience, mid- to high-20's might be reasonable. OTOH, I would expect a print operation to pay top dollar for graphic design, and probably proofing as well. ================================================================== Hi, This may be helpful. Stats from Web Week, v. 1, issue 7, November 1995 National Annual Salary Range Less than $25,000 2.5% $25,000 to 34,999 5.0% 35,000 to 44,999 12.5% $45,000 to 54,999 17.5% $55,000 to 64,999 12.5% over 65,000 37.5% Boston Area Salaries WWW Programmer (CGI/PERL/JAVA/C++) $60-80K annual $100 per hour/freelance WWW Developer (HTML) $40-$50 K annual $50 per hour/freelance WWW Art Director (Graphic Design Specialist) $40-$50 K annual $50 per hour/freelance ======================================================================== >A quick question that needs some quick answers (the budget deadline is >approaching): > >We're writing job descriptions for web managers - one to handle writing/ >proofing/teaching/coordinating, and one for graphic design/photography/ >scripting. Both will need basic HTML knowledge. Does anyone have any >salary ranges for positions like these? I know we're not going to be >able to afford experience, so what can college grads expect in these >sorts of positions? (These positions are going to be in Public Relations, >not the library.) > >Any guidelines will be helpful. > >DeAnne Luck >Electronic Resources Librarian >Austin Peay State University >LuckDL@apsu01.apsu.edu > >Home of the NCAA-bound OVC Champion Govenors AND > the NCAA-bound OVC Champion Lady Govs!!!!!! From leach at phys1.harvard.edu Wed Mar 6 17:01:36 1996 From: leach at phys1.harvard.edu (Michael Leach) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Clickable images in HTML In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter: The steps you have taken so far are correct for producing an interactive image. Unfortunately, you need more than just the imagemap.conf (configuration) file to "fool" Netscape. The imagemap cgi script is also required. This script comes with most server software these days, (old versions of httpd did not have it) but is not available with browsers. So, unless I am mistaken (please correct me folks if I am!) you will not be able to "fool" a Netscape browser into thinking you have an interactive map. Michael R. Leach Harvard University, Physics Research Library 17 Oxford Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 USA (617) 495-2878 (phone); (617) 495-0416 (fax) leach@phys1.harvard.edu library@physics.harvard.edu ------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Peter Konshak wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem. I'm in the process of > teaching myself some new HTML tricks, and I am trying to get clickable > image maps to work. As we don't yet have a web page or web server up, my > HTML documents are stored locally and I use Netscape to view them. So > far, I have done the following: > > o Create a GIF file which meets my needs. > o Use Map This! to define areas of the GIF as hotspots. > o Save the information into a .map file. > o Reference the image map in the HTML document. > > The end result is that this does not work. There appears to be one more > step: tying a map file to a map name. On a web server, this would be the > imagemap.conf file, which would consist of the name and path of the map > file. However, since I am not actually testing this on a web server, but > just through Netscape, I don't have a imagemap.conf file to use. > > Is there a way to set this up so it will work? Can I trick Netscape 2.0 > into thinking there is an imagemap.conf file out there? Or, do I just > need to create this file somewhere and add the appropriate references? > > Thanks. > > Peter > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Peter Konshak Computer Technology Coordinator > pkonshak.ccpl@ash.palni.edu Carmel Clay Public Library > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From LUCKDL at APSU01.APSU.EDU Wed Mar 6 17:40:50 1996 From: LUCKDL at APSU01.APSU.EDU (LUCKDL@APSU01.APSU.EDU) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Netscape problems Message-ID: <01I20WYXHRHU0002SD@APSU01.APSU.EDU> Here we go again - I tried sending this before but I don't think it went through. Apologies if it's a repeat. We have Netscape 1.1 loaded on our library machines, both office and student lab PC's. We have problems with it *continually* ceasing to work on all the machines. It will work fine for a few minutes and then it will not connect to any site nor load any new page at all. It will try, but will sit there with stars falling for hours if you let it. Reboot, and it will work fine for a few more minutes before this happens again. Using a graphic intensive site (like Disney's - I'm planning a vacation), it takes about 10 minutes or so before this happens. I know Netscape has occasional problems but this seems too regular to be a random glich. Is there something we can do to the cache settings or anything else that might help? Thanks, DeAnne Luck Electronic Resources Librarian Austin Peay State University LuckDL@apsu01.apsu.edu From marc at matahari.ckm.ucsf.edu Wed Mar 6 18:00:07 1996 From: marc at matahari.ckm.ucsf.edu (Marc Salomon) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Advertisement (was Re: Advertising on the list) In-Reply-To: iai@neosoft.com (Kevin C. Marsh) "Advertisement (was Re: Advertising on the list)" (Mar 6, 12:51) References: <199603062031.OAA02148@sam.neosoft.com> Message-ID: <9603061500.ZM14562@matahari.ckm.ucsf.edu> |Since there seems to be a consensus to accept advertisement here, I will put |in a brief plug for Information Access Institute: Using UC computers (on which web4lib is hosted) to advertise private services is against California Law and UC academic use of computers policy. -marc -- --/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ // Marc Salomon - Software Engineer - Innovative Software Systems Group \\ \\ Library and Center for Knowledge Management - UC, San Francisco // // phone : 415.476.9541 - e-mail : marc@ckm.ucsf.edu - fax: 415.476.4653 \\ \\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/// From Rodrigue.Real at uqam.ca Wed Mar 6 18:25:52 1996 From: Rodrigue.Real at uqam.ca (Real Rodrigue) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Netscape problems References: <01I20WYXHRHU0002SD@APSU01.APSU.EDU> Message-ID: <313E1F00.54A@UQAM.CA> LUCKDL@APSU01.APSU.EDU wrote: > > Here we go again - I tried sending this before but I don't think > it went through. Apologies if it's a repeat. > > We have Netscape 1.1 loaded on our library machines, both office > and student lab PC's. We have problems with it *continually* > ceasing to work on all the machines. It will work fine for a > few minutes and then it will not connect to any site nor load > any new page at all. It will try, but will sit there with stars > falling for hours if you let it. Reboot, and it will work fine > for a few more minutes before this happens again. Using a graphic > intensive site (like Disney's - I'm planning a vacation), it > takes about 10 minutes or so before this happens. > > I know Netscape has occasional problems but this seems too regular to > be a random glich. Is there something we can do to the cache settings > or anything else that might help? > > Thanks, > DeAnne Luck > Electronic Resources Librarian > Austin Peay State University > LuckDL@apsu01.apsu.edu Have you tried emptying the cache (see Options/Preferences/Network..). We had a similar problem, before noting that the cache size had been con siderably increased by someone (to over 100 Megs!). A problem also with NetScape 1.1 was that the cache did not empty itself: we have to do it manually. Fortunately, this problem seems to have been solved with NetScape 2.0. -- *** *** *** Real Rodrigue *** *** *** Services informatises *** *** *** Service des bibliotheques *** *** *** Universite du Quebec a Montreal *** Tel.: 514-987-4554 *** FAX : 514-987-7787 Courrier electronique / E-Mail : Rodrigue.Real@UQAM.CA URL : http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/g17176/Real.html From marc at matahari.ckm.ucsf.edu Wed Mar 6 19:14:35 1996 From: marc at matahari.ckm.ucsf.edu (Marc Salomon) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:55 2005 Subject: Netscape problems In-Reply-To: Real Rodrigue "Re: Netscape problems" (Mar 6, 15:51) References: <313E1F00.54A@UQAM.CA> Message-ID: <9603061614.ZM14582@matahari.ckm.ucsf.edu> I think that netscape 1.1 expires/ed--read your license--and that this is its way of enforcing upgrading. -marc -- --/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ // Marc Salomon - Software Engineer - Innovative Software Systems Group \\ \\ Library and Center for Knowledge Management - UC, San Francisco // // phone : 415.476.9541 - e-mail : marc@ckm.ucsf.edu - fax: 415.476.4653 \\ \\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/// From angeloba at mat.uniroma1.it Fri Mar 8 04:21:07 1996 From: angeloba at mat.uniroma1.it (angelo bardelloni) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:57 2005 Subject: Electronic Preprints Message-ID: <199603080921.LAA04482@mat.uniroma1.it> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 1029 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/19960308/6c429918/attachment.bat From davies at biruni.erum.com.pk Sat Mar 9 06:38:00 1996 From: davies at biruni.erum.com.pk (Davies) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:57 2005 Subject: Database on web page Message-ID: I am new to creating web pages. I am putting together some local recipes with one recipe per page. I would like to have a dictionary of translations attached to this in some way so that a person can search for a word from the recipe page, have a pop up search window appear, input the search word and have it search and display the translation in the window -- still having the recipe on the screen. Where should I look for how-to-do-it information on: 1) Software for creating the translation dictionary. 2) Linking the database to the web page to search and display the results. Thank you Denise Davies Phone/Fax (9221) 492-3918 Head Librarian, Karachi American School Karachi, Pakistan e-mail davies@biruni.erum.com.pk From Albert-Lunde at nwu.edu Sat Mar 9 11:17:28 1996 From: Albert-Lunde at nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:57 2005 Subject: You can join a suit against the Communications Decency Act Message-ID: On Monday, February 26, the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition, and a number of other plaintiffs (including the American Library Association) filed suit in a Federal Court in Philadelphia PA seeking to overturn the Communications Decency Act on the grounds that it is a violation of the First Amendment rights of all Internet users. The CIEC is seeking Internet users who feel their rights to free speech would be restricted to join this lawsuit. (**You must act before March 15, 1996**) For more information, see: http://www.cdt.org/ciec/ This suit is distinct from that brought by the ACLU, EFF, EPIC, Planned Parenthood, and several other plaintiffs; it is focused more on the particular nature of the Internet as a forum for free speech. --- Albert Lunde Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu From donald.napoli at gomail.sjcpl.lib.in.us Sun Mar 10 00:44:20 1996 From: donald.napoli at gomail.sjcpl.lib.in.us (Don Napoli) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:57 2005 Subject: Database on web page Message-ID: Dear Denise, We at SJCPL serve up several internally created databases. They are all listed at the top of our home page, just under our largest database, our on-line catalog of library materials. All of the searchable databases below our on-line catalog link are File Maker Pro databases. To search them we use a ready-made acgi called ROFM.acgi created and maintainted by Russell Owen. Our version of File Maker Pro is running on a Macintosh WWW server (a Quarda 95), but FM Pro is also available for DOS operating systems running on IBM compatible machines. If you want to check out what we have done, our home page is URL: http://sjcpl.lib.in.us/ At the bottom of each of the search forms, you will find a credit given to Russell Owen with a link to his home page where you will find detailed information about his acgi and how it works. The lastest version does require that you have File Maker Pro version 3.0. If you have questions about how large each of our databases are and how we have configured them to do what they do, I would be happy to answer them. Good luck! Don Napoli --------------------------------------------- >I am new to creating web pages. I am putting together some local recipes >with one recipe per page. I would like to have a dictionary of translations >attached to this in some way so that a person can search for a word from the >recipe page, have a pop up search window appear, input the search word and >have it search and display the translation in the window -- still having the >recipe on the screen. > >Where should I look for how-to-do-it information on: >1) Software for creating the translation dictionary. >2) Linking the database to the web page to search and display the results. > >Thank you >Denise Davies Phone/Fax (9221) 492-3918 >Head Librarian, Karachi American School >Karachi, Pakistan e-mail >davies@biruni.erum.com.pk Donald J. Napoli, Director St. Joseph County Public Library 304 South Main Street South Bend, IN 46601 USA voice: 219-282-4601 fax: 219-282-4651 e-mail: donald.napoli@gomail.sjcpl.lib.in.us SJCPL WWW Home Page: http://sjcpl.lib.in.us/ Public Library Assoc Home Page: http://pla.org/ From ecarrico at spl.lib.wa.us Sat Mar 9 20:31:18 1996 From: ecarrico at spl.lib.wa.us (Ellen Carrico) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:57 2005 Subject: recommendations for public webstation printers In-Reply-To: <960306095516_161580408@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 R124C41@aol.com wrote: > In regard to the question posed by Robert Cameron, Loyola University Library > (New Orleans) [cameron@beta.loyno.edu] concerning recommendations for public > webstation printers... > --------------------------- > Let me make the following radical proposal. > > Provide **no** printers at public webstations. > [delete suggestions about using Acrobat] > > In this way, you will be doing the users a favor in not letting their > information suffer the heat death of getting transformed onto paper media. This statement doesn't make any sense. Media is media - disk or paper. > You will also, I believe, save on consumables. And finally, if the users > really do want to print the stuff on paper, they can do it on their home > computer where they stand the entire cost. > Yes, you would definitely save on consumables like ink, toner or paper. However, we provide these systems in our library because many of our patrons have NO system at home. We are their sole source of access to internet information resources in addition to the other resources we provide such as Infotrac. > Isn't this the right way to go? Isn't this the direction we are all heading? > Isn't it important to encourage users to go this direction too? > No, this isn't the way to go if we are truly interested in making sure that all members of our community have equal access to information. I don't believe that there is a way for anyone to retain all of the data obtained in a single online session (whether it is book titles and authors, the content of a magazine article, or statistical data obtained from a a website) without having it printed out. I would encourage our patrons to be thoughtful about using our resources when printing, but I feel that to not provide those resources would be as silly as telling them they can only read reference works in the library and they may NOT take any notes. Ellen Carrico "A motorcycle is a tool for turning the Machine Network & Applications Mgr Age back on itself, for removing shackles. Seattle Public Library won't fix everything that's wrong with the world (206)386-4168 but, hey, ... it's definitely a move in the right ecarrico@spl.lib.wa.us direction." --Paul Pascarella From bongior at Oakland.edu Sat Mar 9 21:48:43 1996 From: bongior at Oakland.edu (Connie M. Bongiorno) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:57 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199603100248.VAA16089@cliff.acs.oakland.edu> HELP! Mac PPP is installed, MacTCP is installed; yet, SHE DOES NOT RUN :( The config PPP window allow config'ing, but the 'open' button is greyed out. When attempting to launch Eudora the error message: "That pesky MacTCP is acting up again. -43 {37:348} " How do I fix this? I have already tried reloading the software and rebooting (several times)... Thank you in advance, Peter L. Stevenson & Connie M. Bongiorno bongior@oakland.edu From kathy at nermal.santarosa.edu Sun Mar 10 13:31:28 1996 From: kathy at nermal.santarosa.edu (Kathy McGreevy) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: MacTCP/MacPPP no go Message-ID: Connie M. Bongiorno wrote: > Mac PPP is installed, MacTCP is installed; yet, SHE DOES NOT RUN :( > The config PPP window allow config'ing, but the 'open' button is > greyed out. When attempting to launch Eudora the error message: > > "That pesky MacTCP is acting up again. Sounds like possibly *MacTCP* isn't configured or isn't configured correctly. If you haven't configured it yet, select "Control Panels" then "MacTCP" from the Apple menu, then "More" from the window which appears. After you set all the stuff in the configurations window and click "OK", be sure that the PPP icon is dark (i.e. selected) in the MacTCP window before you close it. (If you've already done this, ne-ver mi-i-i-nd. :) ...................................................................... Kathy McGreevy kathy@floyd.santarosa.edu Ref. Librarian, Electronic/ Network Services Santa Rosa Junior College voice: 1-707-527-4547 Santa Rosa, CA 95401 fax: 1-707-527-4545 ...................................................................... From DLESTER at bsu.idbsu.edu Sat Mar 9 22:36:08 1996 From: DLESTER at bsu.idbsu.edu (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: SUMMARY: Photo CD Images Message-ID: A couple of weeks ago I asked about software to convert .pcd (Kodak Photo CD) images to other formats, such as .jpg and .gif, for web pages. I learned a lot, which I'll very briefly summarize below, with profound thanks to the over two dozen respondents. First, I mentioned a service bureau, and many asked about it, as the quoted prices were lower than most others. Lazerquick Images Box 2210 27375 SW Parkway Avenue Wilsonville, OR 97070 800-937-9196 If you phone the 800 number, they'll send you an envelope full of all you need to send in your slides or prints for scanning. Their costs are (only listing standard prices, not rush, and not ones where they adjust the color, etc. [besides I can do that myself]): 9.95 for the disk itself 7.50 for shipping 0.69 per image So, if you get 100 of the same format (either prints or slides) converted to PCD, the cost will be about $87. There are other charges for all Dan Lester, Network Information Coordinator Boise State University Library, Boise, Idaho, 83725 USA voice: 208-385-1235 fax: 208-385-1394 dlester@bsu.idbsu.edu OR alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu Cyclops' Internet Toolbox: http://cyclops.idbsu.edu "How can one fool make another wise?" Kansas, 1979. sorts of custom work, production services, color balancing, and so forth. Check the brochure. But about $87 for the full CD seems great to me. Of course they include the standard five resolutions for each image (from 128x192 to 2048x3072) Note: I've not yet sent my slides to them (planning to do a web of family history with slides from 50 years ago), so can't vouch for quality, but a couple of reputable local folks swear by them. Now the manipulation of them. Most recommended PhotoShop. Some recommended PaintShopPro. Some recommended GraphicsWorkshop. One recommended a DOS package (DISPLAY) as the best of all. Others recommended JPEGView, GIFConverter, GraphicConverter. Several recommended just displaying them with the PhotoCD software and then grabbing the screen with LView or HiJaak, an option so simple I never thought of it. ImageMagick was suggested for Unix users. A Mac user recommended Apple Photo Access (which apparently comes with 7.5). Another Mac user recommended DeBabelizer. Thanks to all.... dan From DLESTER at bsu.idbsu.edu Sat Mar 9 22:47:35 1996 From: DLESTER at bsu.idbsu.edu (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: Second try: Summary of PhotoCD info Message-ID: Well, I messed up the first one...too late on Saturday. And theoretically it is being retracted from the net gateway of this system. Regardless, here is a copy that should be readable: dan Subject: SUMMARY: Photo CD Images A couple of weeks ago I asked about software to convert .pcd (Kodak Photo CD) images to other formats, such as .jpg and .gif, for web pages. I learned a lot, which I'll very briefly summarize below, with profound thanks to the over two dozen respondents. First, I mentioned a service bureau, and many asked about it, as the quoted prices were lower than most others. Lazerquick Images Box 2210 27375 SW Parkway Avenue Wilsonville, OR 97070 800-937-9196 If you phone the 800 number, they'll send you an envelope full of all you need to send in your slides or prints for scanning. Their costs are (only listing standard prices, not rush, and not ones where they adjust the color, etc. [besides I can do that myself]): 9.95 for the disk itself 7.50 for shipping 0.69 per image So, if you get 100 of the same format (either prints or slides) converted to PCD, the cost will be about $87. There are other charges for all sorts of custom work, production services, color balancing, and so forth. Check the brochure. But about $87 for the full CD seems great to me. Of course they include the standard five resolutions for each image (from 128x192 to 2048x3072) Note: I've not yet sent my slides to them (planning to do a web of family history with slides from 50 years ago), so can't vouch for quality, but a couple of reputable local folks swear by them. Now the manipulation of them. Most recommended PhotoShop. Some recommended PaintShopPro. Some recommended GraphicsWorkshop. One recommended a DOS package (DISPLAY) as the best of all. Others recommended JPEGView, GIFConverter, GraphicConverter. Several recommended just displaying them with the PhotoCD software and then grabbing the screen with LView or HiJaak, an option so simple I never thought of it. ImageMagick was suggested for Unix users. A Mac user recommended Apple Photo Access (which apparently comes with 7.5). Another Mac user recommended DeBabelizer. Thanks to all.... dan Dan Lester, Network Information Coordinator Boise State University Library, Boise, Idaho, 83725 USA voice: 208-385-1235 fax: 208-385-1394 dlester@bsu.idbsu.edu OR alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu Cyclops' Internet Toolbox: http://cyclops.idbsu.edu "How can one fool make another wise?" Kansas, 1979. From cshockle at mail2.lmi.org Sun Mar 10 16:19:25 1996 From: cshockle at mail2.lmi.org (cshockle@mail2.lmi.org) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: Joint Spring Workshop - Washington, DC Message-ID: <9602108265.AA826503706@mail2.lmi.org> JOINT SPRING WORKSHOP Friday, April 26th Tools for the New Millennium... Join your colleagues from the Washington area for lively presentations involving the new tools for our profession -- Intranets, Virtual Libraries, Knowledge Online, Digital Libraries, and Libraries on Lotus Notes. SPONSORED BY American Society for Information Science, Potomac Valley Chapter (1996 Lead Association) District of Columbia Library Association District of Columbia Online Users Group Federal Library and Information Center Committee Special Libraries Association, Washington, DC Chapter Law Librarians Society of Washington, DC CAPCON Library Network DATE/TIME Friday April 26, 1996 9:00 am Registration 5:00 pm Closing PLACE Quality Inn, 8727 Colesville Road, Silver Spring, MD Metro: Silver Spring (Red Line) 15-20 minute walk from Metro Metered Parking Across the Street COST $40 (includes lunch) INFORMATION: Before April 10 Jennifer Eckel 202-223-7400 After April 10 Charlotte White 202-662-6177 REGISTRATION: No Purchase Orders, No Training Request Forms and No Credit Cards. Make checks payable to: Joint Spring Workshop. No refunds after April 8. Lunch not guaranteed for reservations received after April 22. Complete and mail the Registration Form below to: Charlotte White, Covington & Burling Library, Post Office Box 7566, Washington, DC 20044-7566. The JSW complies with the ADA. We can accommodate your needs, provided you contact Jennifer Eckel by April 10, 1996. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LUNCH: Meat * Vegetarian * Name: _____________________________________________________________ Organization: ____________________________________________________ Address: ____________________________________________________________ City/State/Zip: _____________________________________________________ Daytime Phone: _____________________________________________________ Affiliation(s): ASIS * DCOUG * DCLA* FLICC * LLSDC * SLA/DC * From BMSLIB%MITVMA.BITNET at interbit.cren.net Sun Mar 10 19:44:07 1996 From: BMSLIB%MITVMA.BITNET at interbit.cren.net (W. Curtiss Priest) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01I26KEIJE0IDLG42L@Opus1.COM> ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:29:58 -0500 From: Benton Foundation To: benton-compolicy@cdinet.com Subject: NPO's and Universal Service Sender: owner-benton-compolicy@cdinet.com Precedence: bulk On March 6 the Benton Foundation sent the following letter to the Federal Communications Commission encouraging the Commission to include the viewpoints of nonprofit, community based organizations in the coming proceedings on Universal Service. The Benton Foundation's Communications Policy Project is a nonpartisan initiative to strengthen public interest efforts in shaping the emerging National Information Infrastructure (NII). It is Benton's conviction that the vigorous participation of the nonprofit sector in policy debates and demonstration projects will help realize the public interest potential of the NII. As the FCC defines Universal Service for the 21st century, the Benton Foundation hopes to include public interest institutions in the debate that will determine who will have affordable access to telecommunications networks in every region of the nation. Benton invites you to visit the What's Going on section of our world wide web site (URL http://www.benton.org) for updates and analysis of public interest issues and the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Or send requests for documents via e-mail to benton@benton.org Benton invites your comments and support. You may reach us at this e-mail address or at: Benton Foundation 1634 Eye Street NW, 12th Floor Washington DC 20006 202.638.5770 202.638.5771 (f) ****************************************************************** March 6, 1996 Regina Keeney Chief, Common Carrier Bureau Federal Communications Commission 1919 M Street, NW Washington, DC 20554 Dear Ms. Keeney, The Benton Foundation offers the following comments on the upcoming Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in light of the commitment to Universal Service included in the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Benton hopes that the Commission acts to involve in this rulemaking process the perspectives of those who should benefit most from a policy on Universal Service - the homeless, low-income households, and other vulnerable communities. Benton suggests that the Commission direct a number of questions to the organizations that serve these constituencies not as consumers or statistics, but as people at-risk of falling off the networks that connect the nation and thereby widen the breath of viewpoints included in defining the public interest, convenience and necessity. The questions nonprofit, public interest advocates can best address include: * How should the discussion of Universal Service be framed? Is Universal Service about connecting phones? Connecting people with phones? Or connecting people with people? How can the discussion center around the people who need to benefit from the policy most? * How is the value of a network - any network, phone or computer - diminished as fewer and fewer people have access to it? What can be done to identify the communities and individuals most at risk of falling off the networks that will make up the National Information Infrastructure? What strategies can be employed to add people to the networks and keep them on? How can the voices of the people who have fallen off the networks be included in the rulemaking? * What telecommunications services should be "universal" in the information age? What flexibility should people have in picking the services they need? How might Universal Service be defined so that recipients of the services do not have to pay to protect certain rights (i.e., privacy)? What good is a wire without the connection to the hardware, training, and support that are essential for effective use? * What role can nonprofit organizations and other community-based institutions play in delivering access to basic and advanced services? How could centralized delivery centers reduce the costs of providing basic and advanced services in both urban and rural areas? What role could existing nonprofits - schools, libraries, community centers, etc. - play in managing these new telecommunications centers? Also, in a more complex technological environment with numerous carriers, providing universal access may not be enough to facilitate widespread use of telecommunications. The public may need ongoing consumer education so that individuals and organizations are aware of the options available to them, are able to make informed decisions about these options, understand the pricing of the services, and know how to get assistance if they have difficulties with service reliability, bills, privacy, and other problems. How might nonprofit organizations provide these services as well? The provision of Universal Service is more than an agreement between industry and government. Universal Service is the guarantee that all Americans can gain access to the information networks that connect the nation. The Benton Foundation hopes that the Commission will include the above questions and invite the contributions of nonprofit organizations in this historic opportunity to define Universal Service. Respectfully submitted, Kevin Taglang Communications Policy Project Benton Foundation From rhterry at RBSE.Mountain.Net Sun Mar 10 19:54:21 1996 From: rhterry at RBSE.Mountain.Net (Robert H. Terry) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: Database on web page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Take a look at http://rbse.mountain.net/MOREplus/ , it can contain one recipe as a single record in the database, then generates all administrator functionalities for acquisition/modification/delting/reporting those assets, using very high level (easy to understand) presentation. Users get a multiple number of Browsing and Searching mechanisms to locate and acquire same. The product is derived from a seven year NASA research effort that focused on providing reusuable software to scientist. In its present form it can be used to provide any informational holding for any domain. NASA, under its Technology Transfer Program, has tasked us with performing this. I find your domain very interesting and different, if you or any one reading this, has need of this tool, please feel free to contact me for more details. Yours truly, Bob Terry 800-846-1458 x 18 On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Davies wrote: > I am new to creating web pages. I am putting together some local recipes > with one recipe per page. I would like to have a dictionary of translations > attached to this in some way so that a person can search for a word from the > recipe page, have a pop up search window appear, input the search word and > have it search and display the translation in the window -- still having the > recipe on the screen. > > Where should I look for how-to-do-it information on: > 1) Software for creating the translation dictionary. > 2) Linking the database to the web page to search and display the results. > > Thank you > Denise Davies Phone/Fax (9221) 492-3918 > Head Librarian, Karachi American School > Karachi, Pakistan e-mail davies@biruni.erum.com.pk > > From ace at Opus1.COM Wed Mar 13 04:53:12 1996 From: ace at Opus1.COM (Elisabeth Roche) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Background Colors Message-ID: <01I29W5Z6YTUDLG4ZS@Opus1.COM> Also, in your preferences, options, settings in Netscape 1.1n et al, you should set for closest in the colour settings.... E Roche ace@opus1.com serendipity RULES! At 02:04 PM 3/12/96 -0800, Hillary Handwerger wrote: >Thank you for that explanation. I intuitively knew what was going on, >but it was good to see a description of the phenomena. > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Hillary Handwerger >hillaryh@sme.org >Society of Manufacturing Engineers-- CoNDUIT Project >313 271-1500 ext 597 >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > >On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, JQ Johnson wrote: > >> kjustie@mgk.nslsilus.org (Kevin Justie) asks why his background colors >> (that look fine on a Mac) appear dithered when viewed with Netscape on a >> PC. The answer is slightly complex. Basically, the problem is that not >> all colors an author might want are available; the display hardware is >> typically capable of showing only 256 colors on the screen (not just in the >> window) at a time, and the system reserves some colors, making the set of >> colors Netscape has available less than 256. Netscape allocates a color >> cube, normally 6x6x6 (216 colors in all), then if it needs to display a >> color not in its color cube dithers the image to approximate it using >> nearby colors in its color cube. The bottom line is that the only colors >> likely to be available in Netscape on a PC are those with 00, 33, 66, 99, >> CC, or FF in each of the red, green, and blue fields of the color triplet >> (#rrggbb). >> >> Note that this set of 216 colors is a subset of the Mac 8-bit "system >> colors", so using these colors is also good on a Mac. I believe that on a >> Mac Netscape normally uses the system color palette. >> >> However, there is additional complexity. Netscape can't always allocate a >> 6x6x6 color cube. The user's PC hardware might not allow 256 colors, or >> too many colors might be reserved for other purposes. In that case, older >> versions of Netscape for the PC (I haven't checked 2.0) reserved a smaller >> color cube. And some versions of Netscape (old versions for X, for >> instance) didn't use a color cube at all, but instead used a first-fit >> algorithm, allocating colors as needed. >> >> Finally, the kicker: Netscape 1.1 for the PC appears to use a different >> color cube for backgrounds than what it uses for images. Netscape 1.1 on >> the PC doesn't render background colors with "99" in triplets correctly >> except within images (e.g. as the transparent color). Instead, it >> apparently thinks it has, e.g., A0-based triplets available, and dithers >> other nearby values. This bug does NOT exist in Netscape 2.0 for the PC. >> >> To return to Justie's posting, #009999 should work fine on most PCs running >> 2.0, just as it does on most Macs; #BBBBBB may get dithered. Justie's >> pages looked fine to me when viewed on a PC running 2.0. However, sure >> enough, both #009999 and #BBBBBB look wrong as the background color on PCs >> running Netscape 1.1. Given the rapidity that 2.0 is replacing 1.1, I >> wouldn't worry about the problem if I were Justie. >> >> JQ Johnson office: 115F Knight Library >> Academic Education Coordinator e-mail: jqj@darkwing.uoregon.edu >> 1299 University of Oregon voice: 541-346-1746; fax: 541-346-3485 >> Eugene, OR 97403-1299 >> >> >> > From ian.winship at unn.ac.uk Wed Mar 13 05:14:14 1996 From: ian.winship at unn.ac.uk (Ian Winship, Univ Northumbria Info Services) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Automating whats new pages Message-ID: <960313101414.20406070@heaton.unn.ac.uk> Many WWW sites have a What's new list of new or updated files or new links that have been added to the system. We would like to find some automated way of doing this on our service. Have others done so? Can it be done to include other servers at the same address? Is there software or would we (or rather my colleagues) have to write some? ========================================================================== Ian Winship Information Services Dept. | e-mail: ian.winship@unn.ac.uk University of Northumbria at Newcastle | phone: 0191 227 4132 City Campus Library | fax: 0191 227 4563 Newcastle upon Tyne | NE1 8ST | UK | =========================================================================== From agraham1 at swarthmore.edu Wed Mar 13 09:39:18 1996 From: agraham1 at swarthmore.edu (Amy W. Graham) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Pasting into forms Message-ID: We are finalizing a materials ordering form for our web pages. We want to give people the choice of filling in fields or pasting information in from another source (online BIP, records in our consortium database). Most people on our campus are using Netscape on Macs. The problem occurs when information is pasted into a text area. For some reason, the text being pasted is being interpreted as an extremely wide page. As a result, when the paste is complete, the box is empty, but the scroll bar at the bottom of the text area is all the way to the right. If you move it back to the far left, the text is there as it should be. Has anyone experienced similar problems or have a good solution for this? Thanks in advance for any assistance (I really don't want to confuse our patrons or have to put up goofy messages like "move scroll bar to the far left after pasting your citation"!) Amy Wissoker Graham Internet:agraham1@swarthmore.edu Asst. Tech. Svcs/Ref. Librarian Swarthmore College Fax: (215)328-7329 500 College Ave. Swarthmore, PA 19081-1399 From drlewi1 at srv.PacBell.COM Wed Mar 13 12:13:59 1996 From: drlewi1 at srv.PacBell.COM (Dave Lewis) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Automating whats new pages Message-ID: <9603131713.AA08968@zeus.srv.PacBell.COM> I use the harvest system (http://harvest.cs.colorado.edu ) to do a variety of things across my company's internal web. While I don't currently do an automated "what's new" it would be reasonably easy to do so. The harvest architecture consists of "gatherers" and "brokers." A gatherer is used to roam (walk) across a web space (bounded by # of hosts and leaves to visit, patterns to limit hosts visited, etc) and collect a database of resource description objects (a set of name/val attributes in "Standard Object Interchange Format"). The gatherer offers this collection to brokers who would like to use it (without regard for how it will be used). Meta info about each resource includes information about time of discovery (initial or change), url, typical meta object set (author, ...), set of URLs referenced from within the resource, set of images referenced, etc.. A broker is used to pull object descriptions from one or more gatherers, index this (for faster retrieval) and then offer query services against the collected set. Fielded search against the resource/object descriptions are possible. I believe (though I haven't verified) that I can therefore ask a broker for all pages which appeared or changed after a given date. One could call the broker with such a query from a cron job (e.g., at most as frequently as the gather/collect process), and build a "what's new page." Netscape has just introduced a "Catalog Server" which has exactly this feature, and which uses a commercialized version of this technology. (They hired one of the PIs at Colorado to come on board and build it.) In general I question the utility of a simple implimentation of this for the following reasons. If a "published resource" consists of multiple pages, it will appear multiple times in the what's new publication. There needs to be a way to limit inclusion to the title or "home" (sic) page of the published resource. Many items are not worth including. For instance many sites on our IW publish daily or bi-weekly (or what have you) "statistics" pages. I really don't want those in "what's new." Clearly these are serious problems (depending upon what utility is desired from the "what's new" page) but are solvable. Additional desirable features would be topic or task specific "what's new." This is essentially the area of customized information cultivatation and delivery. With the right search engine under a broker (e.g., one that supports search capable of providing required precision and recall), one could easily do periodic queries to derive such resources. Many other neat things are possible using this architecture. I'm planning, for instance, to provide a service where I receive a URL and return the set of urls which point to it. This answers the question, "what pages point to mine," and may be used to facilitate "notify referers of change or deletion." Dave Lewis drlewi1@pacbell.com From pkonshak.ccpl at incolsa.palni.edu Wed Mar 13 13:28:31 1996 From: pkonshak.ccpl at incolsa.palni.edu (Peter Konshak) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Netscape kiosk mode Message-ID: Hi Folks, I've been considering running our public access web terminals (when and if they become a reality) in Kiosk mode. I did a search on the Web4Lib archives and found that this is a relatively simple thing to do - simply add the -k option to the Netscape command line, and you're all set. Well, I never thought it would be so restrictive. All I really want to do is prevent people from sending e-mails and posting to usenet newsgroups from our site. I'd like them to be able to open a new URL, use the back buttons, etc. Now, I can build that functionality into the our homepage, but I'd rather not have to. What I'm hoping to find out, is if there are any settings I can put in the .ini files to turn off e-mail, newsgroups, and the like. It seems like their ought to be something simple, like "mail=no" that could be done. I've studied the minimal Netscape documentation that I have, as well as the related postings in the Web4Lib archive to no avail. Can anyone help? Thanks, Peter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Peter Konshak Computer Technology Coordinator pkonshak.ccpl@ash.palni.edu Carmel Clay Public Library =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From ebro at loc.gov Wed Mar 13 14:18:57 1996 From: ebro at loc.gov (Elizabeth L. Brown) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: "Learning Page" at Library of Congress Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.16.19960313141933.25776b6c@rs8.loc.gov> Cross posted; please excuse the dupilcation. LIBRARY OF CONGRESS LAUNCHES ON-LINE LEARNING PAGE FOR STUDENTS AND EDUCATORS The National Digital Library (NDL) Program has launched an on-line gateway to its digitized collections specifically tailored to the needs of students and educators. This new Learning Page can be accessed on the World Wide Web using Uniform Resource Locator (URL): http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/ndlpedu/ The page offers organized help for searching the Library's primary resource collections that have been on-line since 1994. The Learning Page is part of the Library's effort to reach a new constituency, the K-12 community, which is not served in its reading rooms. Martha Dexter of the NDL Program's educational services area said, "We are eager to serve students and educators with free access to the Library's primary source materials of rare Americana. We also look forward to hearing from this new constituency with ideas on how best to meet their needs." The Learning Page is a project of the NDL Program, which aims to digitize 5 million items by the year 2000, in collaboration with other major research institutions. Tens of thousands of items are already available via the Library's main homepage: http://www.loc.gov/ The Learning Page offers new, education-related help in searching these collections categorized by the Events, Topics, People, Time, and Places of American history. The Learning Page offers new pathways for teachers and students to learn about the history of America from the digitized versions of documents of the Continental Congress, turn-of-the-century films and Mathew Brady's Civil War photographs. "Primary source materials from the Library of Congress add flesh and blood to the story of history," said Bernard Hollister, Illinois Mathematics and Science Academy (Aurora, Ill.). Educators know that history is much more than dates and facts. "The picture collections provide a visual history which engages students in new ways," said Gwen Harrison, Hammond Middle School (Alexandria, Va.) Most teachers, however, have little access to the primary sources that can make history come alive for students. Primary sources are the authentic documents, photographs and manuscripts that transform history into a well told story. Through the Learning Page, students will have help accessing 29,000 photographs, 99 motion pictures, 5,900 documents and 59 sound recordings currently available on-line from the Library of Congress. Over the years, items will be continuously added to the on-line collections. The Learning Page also features an e-mail gateway to a reference librarian and comment sections that support the exchange of ideas among educators and students. The page includes a tutorial on historical detection that encourages learners to solve a mystery using information found in the online collections. An Educator's Page offers files of teacher generated project ideas for using the Library's historical collections in the classroom. Links to other history- and education-related Web sites for students and teachers have been included as well. The launch of the Learning Page coincides with the release of five digitized collections from the Library. The Learning Page is made possible by a grant from the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, which is helping the Library identify educational users of digitized materials to develop students' research skills and critical thinking. _________________________________________________________ * * * Elizabeth L. Brown, M.L.S. * * Education Section, National Digital Library Program * * Library of Congress, Washington, DC 20540-1025 * * ebro@loc.gov telephone: 202/707-2235 * *_________________________________________________________* From sjb5 at cornell.edu Wed Mar 13 14:21:02 1996 From: sjb5 at cornell.edu (Susan Barnes) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: USDA/Mann Library Web Site Message-ID: News: By way of Cornell's Mann Library, USDA statistics now can be accessed through the World Wide Web ITHACA, N.Y. - Back in the old days - two years ago - Cornell University agriculture students surfed the USDA Economics and Statistics System gopher site at the university's Albert R. Mann Library for the latest in crop and farm statistics. Well, that was then. Now, the USDA site has jumped onto the World Wide Web. As of early March, it can be found at: . To help students, faculty, growers and farmers prosper, Mann Library began providing access to USDA statistical data from the Economic Research Service (ERS) and the National Agricultural Statistical Service (NASS) in 1993. These files included crop, livestock, and agricultural economic statistics from the United States and other countries. Last year, the system was expanded to include reports from the ERS, NASS, and the World Agricultural Outlook Board (WAOB). These included weekly, monthly, and quarterly forecasts and estimates on crop production, dairy outlooks, wheat forecasts, and many others. Recently the World-Wide Web and simple-to-use graphical browsers have revolutionized Internet use. "In the early 1990s, when the library was creating the system, gopher technology was the leading Internet access method, " said Oya Rieger, Public Services Librarian. "During the last two years, the World-Wide Web became the preferred Internet protocol. Our system upgrade enables the library to improve the user interface substantially, making it much easier to locate and use related information." Beginning in October 1995, a group headed by Rieger performed the technical upgrades necessary to migrate the ERS, NASS, and WAOB data and reports into the World-Wide Web environment. Although this new, improved delivery mechanism is now available, the gopher remains to continue service for users for whom Web access is difficult because of hardware or software constraints. Much of this Web upgrade project was funded by the USDA's Cooperative State Research, Education and Extension Service. Since January 1994, the system has hosted more than 150,000 users -- an average of more than 200 accesses per day -- with user support provided by Mann and USDA staff. Mann Library now maintains Web, gopher, telnet and FTP access to data from the USDA. For gopher access, connect to: . For telnet access, connect to: and log in as . No password is needed for telnet access. To use the anonymous FTP protocol, connect to and log in as . Then, change the directory with . For questions about accessing this information through the Internet, contact the Mann Library Reference Desk at (607) 255-5406, or send e-mail to help@usda.mannlib.cornell.edu. Albert R. Mann Library supports the instruction, research, and extension programs of Cornell University's College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, College of Human Ecology, Division of Biological Sciences, and Division of Nutritional Sciences. A land grant library for New York, Mann is open to the general public. Mann is one of the Cornell University Library system's 19 unit libraries. Susan Barnes Assistant to the Director Albert R. Mann Library Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853 (607)254-4993 From pkonshak.ccpl at incolsa.palni.edu Wed Mar 13 15:04:20 1996 From: pkonshak.ccpl at incolsa.palni.edu (Peter Konshak) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Netscape kiosk mode In-Reply-To: <651BF379F5@manowar.centre.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Bob Glass wrote: > Peter - > I also think the -k only works in early versions of Netscape. > Look at the following site: > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu:8000/NS/ > This is a description by someone at the Berkely (CA) Public Library > on how to go into the Netscape program and change some of the > configurations. They provide step-by-step instructions. I haven't > tried it, but I think it might be relatively easy to do. Thanks Bob. The -k option does work in Netscape 2.0. It eliminates all the menus, bars, buttons, etc. I will check into the Berkeley site. Peter =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Peter Konshak Computer Technology Coordinator pkonshak.ccpl@ash.palni.edu Carmel Clay Public Library =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From documents at mailgateway.gao.gov Wed Mar 13 17:29:54 1996 From: documents at mailgateway.gao.gov (documents@mailgateway.gao.gov) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:00 2005 Subject: Tax Policy and Administration: 1995 Annual Report on GAO's * Message-ID: <9602138267.AA826767251@mailgateway.gao.gov> GAO Report The U.S. General Accounting Office, the Congressional watchdog agency, has recently released the following report: *** Electronic Full Text Access and Ordering Info Follows *** Tax Policy and Administration: 1995 Annual Report on GAO's Tax-Related Work (Letter Report, 03/08/96, GAO/GGD-96-61). 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From j.mckay at rave.ac.uk Fri Mar 15 07:46:12 1996 From: j.mckay at rave.ac.uk (John McKay) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Netscape kiosk mode Message-ID: >> Thanks Bob. The -k option does work in Netscape 2.0. It eliminates >> all the menus, bars, buttons, etc. I will check into the Berkeley >> site. An idiot-level question. I've happily used the -k kiosk option in Netscape 2.0 on an unattended machine. The problem is that the users are still able to *close* Netscape. Is there an easy way to lock them into Netscape? (I'm sure there must be, but I'm unable to think it through for myself!) John. -- John McKay Ravensbourne College of Design & Communication Walden Road, Chislehurst, Kent BR7 5SN, UK phone +44 (0)181-468 7071 fax +44 (0)181-295 1070 From tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu Fri Mar 15 08:13:22 1996 From: tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Netscape kiosk Message-ID: <01BB1247.481A9420@grey.ohiolink.edu> I have limited access to Windows 3.1 these days, but I've been playing around with Netscape 2.0 in kiosk mode under Windows 95 and am a little distressed to see that it seems to allow all control key commands. That is: Ctrl-L Open a URL Ctrl-O Open a local file. Under Win95 this includes the opportunity to view any file and launch any exectutable on your PC. Ctrl-M Send a mail message (like I'm doing now, f'rinstance) Ctrl-S Save As Ctrl-B Edit bookmarks If kiosk mode is still undocumented, this might be part of the reason. Please don't just throw a "-k" in your command line and assume you've thoroughly battened the hatches. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From guy at dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Fri Mar 15 09:40:18 1996 From: guy at dpls.dacc.wisc.edu (Laura Guy) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Workshop on International Data Resources (reprise) *AND* Conference Information for the Joint CSS/IASSIST Conference this May. Message-ID: <9603151440.AA07884@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 1404 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/19960315/5029cc55/attachment.bat From jh at dmu.ac.uk Fri Mar 15 10:18:49 1996 From: jh at dmu.ac.uk (Jon Hill) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Netscape kiosk In-Reply-To: <01BB1247.481A9420@grey.ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Thomas Dowling wrote: > I have limited access to Windows 3.1 these days, but > I've been playing around with Netscape 2.0 in kiosk mode > under Windows 95 and am a little distressed to see that > it seems to allow all control key commands. That is: > > Ctrl-L Open a URL > Ctrl-O Open a local file. Under Win95 this > includes the opportunity to view any file > and launch any exectutable on your PC. > Ctrl-M Send a mail message (like I'm doing now, > f'rinstance) > Ctrl-S Save As > Ctrl-B Edit bookmarks > > > If kiosk mode is still undocumented, this might be part > of the reason. Please don't just throw a "-k" in your > command line and assume you've thoroughly battened the > hatches. > If the E-Mail Address and Server options in the Netscape.ini file are left blank then Netscape in Kiosk mode will not be able to send Mail. If you set up a mime type for EXE/BIN/COM/PIF to launch an applicationn, for example the windows clock, then attempting to open any exe file (Using Ctrl+u, o or l) will cause the clock to launch instead. Judicious use of hiding files and directories further limit the potential for misuse. Keeping the Bookmarks on a Networked direcotry withh RO writes set will stop the editing of the Bookmark file. Hope this helps, it works in our library. *********************************************************************** * Jonathan R. Hill (aka Jon, Vicki and Fireball) * * Library Network Officer - Kimberlin Library, De Montfort University * * EMail - jh@dmu.ac.uk Home http://www.dmu.ac.uk/~jh/jon.htm * * Telephone - 0116-2551-551 ex 8033 * * * * If mankind is the ultimate result of evolution after 4 Billion * * Years, It goes to show that having patience doesn't pay off in the * * end. * *********************************************************************** From jim at mail.lib.duke.edu Fri Mar 15 11:48:17 1996 From: jim at mail.lib.duke.edu (Coble, Jim) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Looking for automated way to get staff docs to server Message-ID: <9602158269.AA826919297@mail.lib.duke.edu> It is our desire to distribute the creation and maintenance of pages for our library's webspace to as many library staff as possible. We also want to restrict the number of login accounts to the Web server machine to as few as possible for better security and management. So, what we would like to do is set up a way for library staff to contribute and maintain pages on the Web server without having login accounts to the Web server and without requiring an intermediary. Has anyone found a way to permit staff to put documents on the server without requiring a login account on the server? One thought we have had is to replicate the Web document directory on a Novell fileserver; let staff edit, add, and delete them there; and then used scripted FTP to transfer the latest versions to the Web server at specified intervals. We'd like to hear if there are other ways to do this. --Jim ============================================================================ Jim Coble Voice: 919-660-5859 Senior Systems Librarian Fax: 919-684-2855 Perkins Library Internet: jim@mail.lib.duke.edu Box 90196 Duke University Durham, NC 27708-0196 ============================================================================ From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Fri Mar 15 11:53:53 1996 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: On the cutting edge (fwd) Message-ID: This was originally posted to a semi-private mailing list to which I belong and I received the author's permission to repost it. I thought Web4Lib readers may find it interesting and useful. It is written by Cary Gordon. Roy ______________________________________________________________________________ I thought that I would share my latest techno-adventures with this group. The press has been rife with the latest in news from the browser wars, but it is becoming clear that except for some very particular situations, we are down to two--Netscape and Microsoft. The current round of surveys seem to show Netscape with between 85 and 90 percent of the market, Microsoft with 3 to 5 percent and the rest of the field with less than a percent. These figures are drawn from online reports which use the "USER-AGENT" server query to determine the accessing client agent, but there is no guarantee that they do not contain subtle biases, like favoring "Netscape enhanced" sites. Accepting that, the trend seems to be that Netscape is holding or gaining, and Microsoft is steadily gaining while the rest of the field is fading. The third most popular browser family, MacWeb and WinWeb, seem to have slowed development after having changed hands several times. Mosaic, having been dropped by commercial ISPs and online services, appears to be languishing and, while the commercial version from Spry is still under development and is still included with some "bookstore" internet pckages, the recent decision by the now AOL owned GNN to bundle Netscape does not bode well for its future. Curiously, AOL has made a very significant deal with Microsoft to use the MS Internet Explorer browser as the basis for online services delivery. With 5 million (!) registered AOLI alo users, this is very good for Gates & company. For those of you who have not experienced both these browsers, they are very similar in performance and share a couple of key characteristics, notably the ability to use "plug-ins" which are similar to helpers but with a much tighter degree of integration into the browser. The hottest plug-in at the moment seems to be "Shockwave" from Macromedia, the maker of high end multimedia applications including Director. This plug enable the browser to play highly compressed multimedia files as an integral part of the page. These files can contain sound, amimation, internal and external links and can be highly customized. They can also stream (begin playing before the download is complete). The downside is that creating the files requires a $1200 (for the new version 5.0) program. The second hottest group of plug-ins fall in the area of VRML or virtual reality modeling language. The cleverest implementations of these allow the viewer to wander through virtual spaces which can be created either from photographs (with Apples Quicktime VR) or with CAD and animation software. These have great potential for everything from games to online galleries and real estate sales, but their current level of performance is disappointing when used with a modem connection. Other interesting plug-ins include one for Adobe which allows Acrobat documents to be embedded in pages. These documents can contain active links. A competing plug-in called Envoy lags behind the Adobe offering. Similarly, RealAudio has reinvented its popular streaming sound player as a plugin. A plug-in called Crescendo! from LiveUpdate plays embedded MIDI (musical instrument digital interface) files. Most of the examples that I've heard so far sound a lot like a combination of technopop and elevator music rendered on a very cheap keyboard, but the concept seems to hold merit. The free version, unfortunately, does not use data streaming, so you must wait for the file to be downloaded before hearing it. I don't think that their enhanced version for $20 has gotten a lot of takers. My favorite plug-in to date is LightningStrike. This software enables the transfer of .gif images and image maps in a highly compressed form. The images at their site appeared to be between one tenth and one sixth of the normal size, but they still had the .gif89a benefits like progressive display. The only problem is that there is no information available at the site to indicate how to create these compressed file. Perhaps it is a strategy to put all of those unloved Crays and CDC Cybers to work. The most chatted up features in the current Netscape browsers (and soon to follow in the MS browser) are Java and Javascript (formerly LiveScript). Java applets are sort of like plug-ins on demand. Java is, at its essence, a superset of the C++ programming language with hooks to browser code and a facility for transporting itself over the net. The applets created in Java can do just about anything that the programmer is clever enough to get them to do. This brings up the most current Java-related issue. CERT, the international organization charged with monitoring internet security issues and responding to security crises, issued an alert bulletin last week regarding current Java implementations, specifically including Netscape. The Java programming rules specify that applets must never access directories and/or machines other than the directories linked to the directory containing the applet (this is a minor simplification). Since Java is a programming language and some programmers, believe it or not, are evil hackers from Hades, the onus for enforcing this rule falls squarely on the browser and its creators. CERT has recommended disabling Java-enabled browsers. This has produced a yawn heard round the world, but your mileage may vary. Unlike Java which requires a "may the force be with you" commitment to programming, Javascript lets page creators use a fairly simple command structure to implement very useful events including client side forms processing, client side image maps and those nifty little marquees that run through the status line. Not only do the client side functions reduce the load on the server and heighten server security, but they allow personal page creators who might lack access to cgi functions on their servers to set up full function sites. All this and free too? Well, not really. The new wave of browsers bring with them a very high demand on the user's computing machinery. While they will run on a 286 machine (with gobs of memory), they thrash and lag on anything short of a 486. Still, processor speed is much less important than memory. Each plug-in and applet has its own memory needs, so Netscape, fully loaded, can use every bit of a 16 meg (physical ram) machine's capacity and a mondo power user with a fast connection would probably want to consider another 32 meg for use as a RAM disk. Speaking of connections... Well, maybe later. Please let me know via email Drop me a line! (c) Cary Gordon 1996, all rights reserved. From Elizabeth at FS1.NRCYS.UOKNOR.EDU Fri Mar 15 11:57:30 1996 From: Elizabeth at FS1.NRCYS.UOKNOR.EDU (Elizabeth Richards) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: On the cutting edge (fwd) Message-ID: Roy Tennant just posted a short summary of the state of browsers in the Internet world which showed that Netscape seems to dominate the field. Which raises a question I have been pondering regarding html standards. I am very new to the world of developing web pages and was stunned and dismayed to discover that there is a disagreement regarding whether Netscape HTML codes for tables, etc. Should be used. The argument being that the codes have not been approved by the HTML standards committe. If you use them, you may discover in months that your pages are not compatible with other browsers. OTH if Netscape dominates the market then do these standards have any force? Or should we as responsible citizens simply use them to encourage cooperation and discourage a capitalistic driven Internet? My apologies if this has already been discussed. I am also new to the list. I searched the archives but didn't find the topic. OTH since every other post seems to reference Netscape it is difficult to be sure. ####################################################################### Elizabeth Richards ERichards@uoknor.edu Information Specialist National Resource Center for Youth Services 918.585.2986 202 W 8th 918.592.1841 Tulsa, OK 74119-1419 Some of the most beautiful sunsets come at the end of a stormy day. --TW Boatmun (1866-1993) ####################################################################### From tanniver at wahoo.sjsu.edu Fri Mar 15 13:20:31 1996 From: tanniver at wahoo.sjsu.edu (Rose Tanniver) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Announcing SJSU SLIS Alumni Directory/Assn. Message-ID: Please Note: This announcement is being cross posted to a number of mailing lists and print materials. Please excuse any duplication. An Alumni Association is now being formed for the School of Library and Information Science at San Jose State University for both the San Jose and Fullerton campuses. Dr. Ruth Hafter is the Alumni Advisor for the new Association. The Association hopes to achieve the following objectives: *Develop a support system that links the School to the professional life of its alumni and creates a conduit for dynamic feedback from graduates about the quality and relevance of the curriculum. *Promote the School, publicize its activities, and seek outside support for new and innovative programs. *Locate and recruit volunteers to form an initial Alumni Association Governing Board. The task of this Board will be to quickly meet and develop an action agenda and communication format to promote and publicize the new organization. ------------------------ An ad hoc group has been formed to create an Alumni Directory. The directory supports the objective of providing a support system and network for graduates and alumni. If you would like to be included in the directory (print and possibly electronic), we strongly encourage you to contact the Alumni Association through the following methods: 1. E-mail: alumni@wahoo.sjsu.edu 2. Complete the online registration form on the SLIS Homepage. The URL is: http://witloof.sjsu.edu/people/alumni/alumassoc.html 3. Write to SJSU SLIS : School of Library and Information Science San Jose State University Attn: SLIS Alumni - Ruth Hafter One Washington Square San Jose, CA 95192-0029 (please include the entire zip code) 4. Telephone 415/962-4336 - Christine Holmes (Northern CA) or Dr. Ruth Hafter 408/924-2465 (Northern CA), or Beth Jackson ( Southern California) - 818-767-0888 x202 The following information should be included: Last name, first name Year of Graduation at SJSU SLIS Undergraduate, Graduate, Other degrees Permanent Address Telephone Home E-Mail Work Address, title/position Work Telephone Work E-Mail Fax Special Interests related to library and information science Other interests Please attempt to complete this information as soon as possible. If you have provided alumni information in the past year, please consider providing the information again, in the event that any data has changed. If you wish to get involved in the Alumni Association, please call Dr. Ruth Hafter at 408/924-2465 or e-mail: alumni@wahoo.sjsu.edu Thanks, Christine Holmes Beth Jackson Publicity Alumni Association From J.P.Knight at lut.ac.uk Fri Mar 15 13:38:54 1996 From: J.P.Knight at lut.ac.uk (Jon Knight) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: On the cutting edge (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Elizabeth Richards wrote: > I am very new to the world of developing web pages and was stunned > and dismayed to discover that there is a disagreement regarding > whether Netscape HTML codes for tables, etc. Should be used. The > argument being that the codes have not been approved by the HTML > standards committe. If you use them, you may discover in months that > your pages are not compatible with other browsers. Or even right now if you've got the right browser... :-) > OTH if Netscape dominates the market then do these standards have any > force? Or should we as responsible citizens simply use them to > encourage cooperation and discourage a capitalistic driven Internet? Well, the Netscape developers have said in the past that they're committed to implementing HTML 3.0 as soon as they can, so if you use HTML 3.0 standard tags you should find that Netscape's browsers either work with them now or soon will. Of course its not unknown for software companies to tell fibs and go back on promises... I don't think I've seen or heard a similar statement from the Evil Empire aka Microsoft. In fact the demos at their professional developers conference this week seemed to use every proprietry, non-standardised (unless you subscribe to the view that if Uncle Bill does it, its a standard of course) trick in the book. Many of the demos also seemed to be angled towards how best (and easiest) to extra money out of your wallet for online shopping and made me glad I'm an X Mosaic user. Tatty bye, Jim'll -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jon "Jim'll" Knight, Researcher, Sysop and General Dogsbody, Dept. Computer Studies, Loughborough University of Technology, Leics., ENGLAND. LE11 3TU. * I've found I now dream in Perl. More worryingly, I enjoy those dreams. * From sweeting at metgate.metro.org Fri Mar 15 16:11:00 1996 From: sweeting at metgate.metro.org (Floyd T. Sweeting III) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Archive Message-ID: Colleagues, I have not been able to read the list for a while (getting my feet wet in a new job). Is there a new address for the Web4lib archives? Thanks, ~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~" Floyd Thomas Sweeting III Head, Information Systems Department THE FRICK COLLECTION and the FRICK ART REFERENCE LIBRARY 10 East 71st Street New York, NY 10021 Tel: (212) 288-8700 x289 Fax: 879-2091 Email: sweeting@metgate.metro.org ~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~"~" From cbearden at sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us Fri Mar 15 16:37:57 1996 From: cbearden at sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us (Charles F. Bearden) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Netscape kiosk Message-ID: If you are running Windows 95, there is little you can do to to defang Netscape 2.0. Any Win95 Open or Save dialog is practically as good as an open desktop, even if you have implemented the most restrictive policies via Policy Editor. Bill Moseley pointed this out to me. If you right click in the large open space in such a dialog box, you can create a shortcut (New => Shortcut). Specify "c:\" as the command line, save it, drag it from the Open/Save dialog to the Start button in the lower right hand corner, and the start button now lets you start up Windows Explorer for the C: drive. Even if you have activated the "Hide all drives in My Computer" option of Policy Editor, this shortcut will start up an Explorer that will show everything on C:. Delete, move, copy, and rename files (and run EXEs) to your heart's content. Actually, you don't even need to create a shortcut. Even with drives hidden, you can type "*.*" in the File Name space and hit Enter, and everything in that directory will be displayed. Delete, rename, etc. from within the Open/Save dialog. If you offer public access to programs with Open/Save dialogs in Windows 95, you should also try to find some security software that prevents saves to anywhere but floppy and that prevents running any but selected applications. Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Bearden email: cbearden@hpl.lib.tx.us Catalog Department voice: 713/247-3499 Houston Public Library fax: 713/247-3158 500 McKinney Ave. Houston, TX 77002 NOT SPEAKING FOR HPL ------------------------------------------------------------- -=>HPL's Homepage: http://sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us<=- On Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:25:27 -0800 Jon Hill wrote: >On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Thomas Dowling wrote: > >> I have limited access to Windows 3.1 these days, but >> I've been playing around with Netscape 2.0 in kiosk mode >> under Windows 95 and am a little distressed to see that >> it seems to allow all control key commands. That is: >> >> Ctrl-L Open a URL >> Ctrl-O Open a local file. Under Win95 this >> includes the opportunity to view any file >> and launch any exectutable on your PC. >> Ctrl-M Send a mail message (like I'm doing now, >> f'rinstance) >> Ctrl-S Save As >> Ctrl-B Edit bookmarks >> >> >> If kiosk mode is still undocumented, this might be part >> of the reason. Please don't just throw a "-k" in your >> command line and assume you've thoroughly battened the >> hatches. >> >If the E-Mail Address and Server options in the Netscape.ini file are >left blank then Netscape in Kiosk mode will not be able to send Mail. > >If you set up a mime type for EXE/BIN/COM/PIF to launch an applicationn, >for example the windows clock, then attempting to open any exe file >(Using Ctrl+u, o or l) will cause the clock to launch instead. > >Judicious use of hiding files and directories further limit the potential >for misuse. > >Keeping the Bookmarks on a Networked direcotry withh RO writes set will >stop the editing of the Bookmark file. > >Hope this helps, it works in our library. > > >*********************************************************************** >* Jonathan R. Hill (aka Jon, Vicki and Fireball) * >* Library Network Officer - Kimberlin Library, De Montfort University * >* EMail - jh@dmu.ac.uk Home http://www.dmu.ac.uk/~jh/jon.htm * >* Telephone - 0116-2551-551 ex 8033 * >* * >* If mankind is the ultimate result of evolution after 4 Billion * >* Years, It goes to show that having patience doesn't pay off in the * >* end. * >*********************************************************************** > From Albert-Lunde at nwu.edu Fri Mar 15 19:05:23 1996 From: Albert-Lunde at nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: On the cutting edge (fwd) Message-ID: At 10:54 AM 3/15/96, Jon Knight wrote: >On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Elizabeth Richards wrote: >> I am very new to the world of developing web pages and was stunned >> and dismayed to discover that there is a disagreement regarding >> whether Netscape HTML codes for tables, etc. Should be used. The >> argument being that the codes have not been approved by the HTML >> standards committe. If you use them, you may discover in months that >> your pages are not compatible with other browsers. > >Or even right now if you've got the right browser... :-) > >> OTH if Netscape dominates the market then do these standards have any >> force? Or should we as responsible citizens simply use them to >> encourage cooperation and discourage a capitalistic driven Internet? > >Well, the Netscape developers have said in the past that they're >committed to implementing HTML 3.0 as soon as they can, so if you use HTML >3.0 standard tags you should find that Netscape's browsers either work >with them now or soon will. Of course its not unknown for software >companies to tell fibs and go back on promises... It is important to realize that right now there *IS NOT* an HTML 3.0 standard. For fairly current information on the standardization of HTML see: http://www.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/MarkUp.html There *IS* a specification for HTML 2.0 which is in essentially final form (subject to correction of errors but with no substantial revisions planned) which has the been given status of Proposed Standard by the IETF. The last specfication to bear the name "HTML 3.0" was an Internet Draft dated March 1995. The standard "boilerplate" at the from of Internet Drafts notes: > This document is an Internet draft. Internet drafts are working > documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas > and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute > working information as Internet drafts. > > Internet Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six > months and can be updated, replaced or obsoleted by other documents > at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet drafts as reference > material or to cite them as other than as "work in progress". A comment on the page at the URL above, has this to say about the now-expired HTML 3.0 draft: >Based upon earlier work on HTML+, proposed extensions to HTML 2.0 to support >tables, text flow around figures and math. >Note: The March 1995 HTML 3.0 draft no longer reflects the current views of the >W3C nor the IETF. The features in that document, however, are being >implemented, tested, reviewed, refined, and specified in a number of other > documents. Basically what happened is that the IETF HTML working group took longer than originally hoped to produce the HTML 2.0 spec, and as a strategy to try and get things done, both the HTML and HTTP working groups have been shifting from producing large monothic documents to producing smaller, more focused documents. At this point, some features originally in the HTML 3.0 draft are fairly far along in a process towards producing a final specification (like tables), while others like math markup have been given little further attention and may or may not ever be standardized. In addition, specifications have been circulated via the IETF or the W3C for other features (like support for international character sets) that were not mentioned in the HTML 3.0 draft. There is also a draft for a style sheet language. (It's not totally clear right now how much of future standardization work will be done by the IETF or by the W3C.) Right now, therefore, the status of the HTML standardization process is rather complicated. Claimed compliance with HTML 3.0 means different things to different people, but it is not an assurance of future interoperability. It's also true that other media types largely unrelated to HTML like Acrobat documents or Java Applets may largely bypass the HTML standardization process. Right now, Netscape and Microsoft are in a similar situation: they both support a superset of the list of HTML tags in the HTML 2.0 spec (though not always in a way that strictly complies with that spec ). The additional tags they support come from various sources. I think there is a real need for someone knowledgeable about various software versions and the history of the standards process to do some "triage" on the list of various extenstions to HTML 2.0 and rate them on their impact on interoperability as well as on congruence with various drafts and the SGML standard. (Some markup *is* in newer specifications like the tables draft, and some appearance of some markup degrades gracefully if viewed on a browser that doesn't support it, so not all extensions are equally "bad". ) --- Albert Lunde Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu From wlefurgy at radix.net Sat Mar 16 00:26:51 1996 From: wlefurgy at radix.net (Bill LeFurgy) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:01 2005 Subject: Culture in Cyberspace Newsletter Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960316052651.006c50a8@pop.radix.net> I'd like to announce a new resource for learning more about the internet & related cultural issues (this has been posted in a couple of other lists, so please excuse any duplication). About 1,700 people around the world are now subscribing. Culture in Cyberspace, CinC, is a free, weekly e-mail newsletter that covers events and developments associated with the intersection of culture and information technology. The newsletter's audience includes people who are involved with cultural organizations and others who care how culture is represented in the emerging information age. Topics cover the arts, education, journalism, history, and libraries. News and review of WWW sites are included. To subscribe to Culture in Cyberspace, send the following message to wlefurgy@radix.net: SUBSCRIBE CinC firstname lastname For example: SUBSCRIBE CinC Bill Gates Owner: Bill LeFurgy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill LeFurgy | Culture in Cyberspace wlefurgy@radix.net | Information Networking and Managment Associates (301) 230-0880 | http://www.radix.net/~wlefurgy/welcome.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- From balbib at inet.uni-c.dk Sun Mar 17 08:34:48 1996 From: balbib at inet.uni-c.dk (Jens Rohleder) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Greetings wanted for Danish library Message-ID: On April 1, 1996, the public libraries in Ballerup county (just outside Copenhagen) will celebrate the opening of 'Bibliotek 2001 - The Library of the Future', a part of the year-long celebrations of Copenhagen as Culture City '96 in Europe. In addition to a homepage for the libraries, which will be accessible from public terminals during the exhibition, the project includes Database 2001 - a multimedia library catalog available over the web, and Boernenet Ballerup ('Children's-Net Ballerup') - the interactive web site of the Ballerup county children's libraries. To give some context to our project, we would like to display email greetings from other libraries around the world at the exhibition. If you would like to send a greeting, our email address is balbib@inet.uni-c.dk. (We'd particularly like to hear from children's libraries!) For those of you who read Scandinavian languages, the children's site is already up. (An English-language summary will be available later this year.) In addition to finding information about the libraries and their programs, you can write to the librarians, send questions to Danish children's authors or read stories and book and film reviews sent in by kids. The URL is . We look forward to hearing from you! Clare Macdonald on behalf of the Ballerup libraries balbib@inet.uni-c.dk From kgs at bluehighways.com Sun Mar 17 17:53:13 1996 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: WEB4LIB digest 189 Message-ID: Re the kiosk mode, Tom D., I think the reason Berkeley PL edited Netscape was that they wanted a level of access above the kiosk level but below Netscape's capability. In other words, what Netscape lacks (and other browsers lack) is a truly configurable kiosk mode. You might not want Control-L--but I would. And I thought the idea of launching the clock or another executable was kinda clever (I never would have thought of it, anyway) but I'd much rather have a feature built in that allowed me to disable executables and point to a page that explained why. For history on Netscape's kiosk mode and Berkeley PL's negotiations with them, the PUBLIB archive, on the NYSERNET gopher, is very useful (gopher://nysernet.org). Where I work, the *only* thing we want to disable on our two public workstations is mail and bookmarking (and at that, I'd like to make sure *we* can add bookmarks). ------------------------------------------------------------------ Karen G. Schneider * kgs@bluehighways.com * http://www.bluehighways.com/ Cybrarian * Columnist, American Libraries, Internet Law Researcher Author, The Internet Access Cookbook (e-mail Neal-Schuman@icm.com) From cebrowskic at ALPHA.NSULA.EDU Sun Mar 17 20:32:03 1996 From: cebrowskic at ALPHA.NSULA.EDU (cebrowskic@ALPHA.NSULA.EDU) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Basic Tutorials Message-ID: Hi. I was asked to summarize for the list the results of my query regarding where to find very basic computer and WEB tutorials. Here goes: 1. Windows includes a basic tutorial in its software. 5-10 minutes worth, perfect for new mouse users. 2. Hampton Roads Central Library -- info. on learning/usinf WEB at http://wwwp.exis.net/~cwt 3. Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. -- Exploring the Web (not for complete neophytes) at http://www.gactr.uga.edu/Exploring/toc.html 4. Created for middle-school age students learning to use the Web: http://www.missouri.edu/~c655092/netscape 5. An "Internet Toolbox" http://homepage.interaccess.com/~wolinsky/jintro.htm 6. "BCK2SKOL" Internet lesson at http://web.csd.sc.edu/bck2skol/bck2skol.htm I have not yet used any of these sources so do not know exactly what type of information they provide or how they rate.... Cate ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cate Cebrowski Reference and Library Instruction librarian Watson Library Northwestern State University, Natchitoches, Louisiana (318) 357-5065 cebrowskic@alpha.nsula.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ace at Opus1.COM Sun Mar 17 20:30:16 1996 From: ace at Opus1.COM (Elisabeth Roche) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: kiosks and disenabling features Message-ID: <01I2GE276KRMDMP2TF@Opus1.COM> Karen- responding with a broad brush here.:) Well- I myself would like to know why, but I really don't think its necessary to *advertise* the features you aren't allowing people to use. I think lan managers have discovered this truth; when people discover a feature that is unavailable they'll spend their time trying to figure out how to get past that *block* and quite often succeed. Better to design a flow of can-do features that satisfy the needs of the user, who hopefully will be so successful using those that they won't even notice what "might-have-been." :)) Elisabeth Roche ace@opus1.com serendipity RULES! > > but I'd much rather have a feature built in that allowed me to >disable executables and point to a page that explained why. > >snipped section >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Karen G. Schneider * kgs@bluehighways.com * http://www.bluehighways.com/ >Cybrarian * Columnist, American Libraries, Internet Law Researcher >Author, The Internet Access Cookbook (e-mail Neal-Schuman@icm.com) > > > From ace at Opus1.COM Sun Mar 17 21:06:35 1996 From: ace at Opus1.COM (Elisabeth Roche) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: kiosks and disenabling features Message-ID: <01I2GFB8XSFMDMP2U7@Opus1.COM> Basically, we need to design or give our specifications to the software developers and get a good product for kiosks, not another "work-around". Maybe that is exactly what everyone on this list should respond with, the wants. Then we can present them to Netscape or Oracle or Microsoft or whoever. I personally would love to see a list of this type, human-computer interaction and design is a personal study of mine. Elisabeth Roche ace@opus1.com serendipity RULES! ---snipped original message------------- >> but I'd much rather have a feature built in that allowed me to >>disable executables and point to a page that explained why. >> >>snipped section >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Karen G. Schneider * kgs@bluehighways.com * http://www.bluehighways.com/ >>Cybrarian * Columnist, American Libraries, Internet Law Researcher >>Author, The Internet Access Cookbook (e-mail Neal-Schuman@icm.com) >> >> >> > > From tcopley at gigantor.arlington.com Tue Mar 19 04:43:50 1996 From: tcopley at gigantor.arlington.com (Thomas P. Copley) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT> Last Call for Spring Links Workshop Message-ID: MAKE THE LINK WORKSHOP (WORLD WIDE WEB FOR EVERYONE) Make the Link Workshop (World Wide Web for Everyone) is an eight week distance-learning workshop conducted entirely by e-mail. It introduces the beginner to the World Wide Web (WWW), the Internet's distributed hypermedia information system, as well as enhances the skills of the somewhat more experienced user. WWW's amazing growth has resulted largely from its ease of use and power to almost instantaneously transport a rich array of text, graphics, sound, programs, etc. to the computer desktop with the click of a mouse button. Having a WWW home page providing one's personal information has become the 1990's version of the business card, resume, telephone answering machine, and on occasion, electronic recreation area, all rolled into one. In fact, WWW provides the opportunity to participate and collaborate with others at many levels. The Make the Link Workshop will focus on how to gain maximum advantage from this simple to use, yet very sophisticated, Internet tool. The final Spring session of the Links Workshop is scheduled for April 1 - May 26, 1996. The cost of the workshop is $20 US. To get more information about the workshop, please send e-mail to info@arlington.com or to sign up for the Make the Link Workshop, please send an e-mail message to the address: majordomo@arlington.com and in the body of the message, include: subscribe links7 This will automatically put you on the mailing list for more information about the workshop, and you will receive an acknowledgment with the particulars about signing up. You may sign off the list at any time and will not be charged any fee. If you have any difficulty signing up, please send e-mail to the address below in the signature line. ________________________________________________________________ THOMAS P. COPLEY tcopley@arlington.com Make the Link Workshop http://www.crl.com/~gorgon/ From j.mckay at rave.ac.uk Tue Mar 19 05:43:30 1996 From: j.mckay at rave.ac.uk (John McKay) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: listserv archives to web? Message-ID: <105BEED142E@rave.ac.uk> >> Could somebody recommend a FREE program that can convert listserv >> archives to the web, so that the results can be browsed and searched? >> I'll summarize if there is enough interest. Jian - Byte (March 1996 page 94) mentions two sites of interest: MHonArc: http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html HyperMail: http://www.eit.com/software/hypermail I'd certainly be interested in a summary of any results to the list! John. -- John McKay Ravensbourne College of Design & Communication Walden Road, Chislehurst, Kent BR7 5SN, UK phone +44 (0)181-468 7071 fax +44 (0)181-295 1070 From j.mckay at rave.ac.uk Tue Mar 19 05:55:32 1996 From: j.mckay at rave.ac.uk (John McKay) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Basic Tutorials Message-ID: <105F24102D4@rave.ac.uk> > Hi. I was asked to summarize for the list the results of my query > regarding where to find very basic computer and WEB tutorials. Another site to add to the list. It's UK based: Internet for Everyone: http://www.mailbase.ac.uk:8080/ife/ John. -- John McKay Ravensbourne College of Design & Communication Walden Road, Chislehurst, Kent BR7 5SN, UK phone +44 (0)181-468 7071 fax +44 (0)181-295 1070 From GBatter387 at aol.com Tue Mar 19 08:17:56 1996 From: GBatter387 at aol.com (GBatter387@aol.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: LAST CALL FOR SEMINARS Message-ID: <960319081755_355694843@emout07.mail.aol.com> Last call for subscribers to the Licensing Journal and The IP Litigator. Limited spaces are still available for Kent Press' two day CLE program in New York City on March 27-28, 1996 on "The Basics of Licensing & Licensing Law" and "The Basics of Intellectual Property Litigation." These seminars are sponsored by The Licensing Journal and The IP Litigator. The programs are specifically tailored for junior to mid-level associates at intellectual property law firms, paralegals, corporate counsel working (or intending to work) in the fields, and general attorneys who are seeking a background in the areas. Non-subscribers are welcome on a space available basis. For additional information, contact Katie DeVito at The Licensing Journal (203) 358-0848 or by reply e-mail. From b.kelly at newcastle.ac.uk Tue Mar 19 08:48:50 1996 From: b.kelly at newcastle.ac.uk (Brian Kelly) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Basic Tutorials Message-ID: <199603191354.NAA20354@burnmoor.ncl.ac.uk> > > Hi. I was asked to summarize for the list the results of my query > > regarding where to find very basic computer and WEB tutorials. > > Another site to add to the list. It's UK based: > > Internet for Everyone: > http://www.mailbase.ac.uk:8080/ife/ > > John. > -- > John McKay > Ravensbourne College of Design & Communication Thanks for mentioning this online tutorial. We will shortly be moving this service to another machine and will be renaming it TONIC (The Online Netskills Interactive Course). Please don't hotlist the old URL. Instead point to http://ww.netskills.ac.uk/. There will be a pointer from our home page. Thanks Brian Kelly -------------------------------------------------- Brian Kelly Netskills - see http://www.netskills.ac.uk/ Computing Service University of Newcastle Newcastle-upon-Tyne B.Kelly@newcastle.ac.uk NE1 7RU 0191 222 5002 From whitt at CS.cofc.EDU Tue Mar 19 13:21:09 1996 From: whitt at CS.cofc.EDU (Alis Whitt) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Internet handout tips sought? Message-ID: I'm looking for a site or some helpful hints from others who prepare documentation for Internet classes. Perhaps a list of "do's and don'ts" for writing good cheat sheets? This is for a presentation to librarians who teach the net. Please reply directly to me. If there's interest on the list, I'll be glad to summarize. thanks -- Alis Whitt Interlibrary Loan Coordinator whitt@stono.cofc.edu College of Charleston From ace at Opus1.COM Tue Mar 19 13:53:57 1996 From: ace at Opus1.COM (Elisabeth Roche) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Addition to Re: Basic Tutorials Message-ID: <01I2ISSJX3CIDP729D@Opus1.COM> Another addition to the basic tutorials list. Sorry for missing first request for comments. Without question, Alan Levine and his crew at Maricopa Community College are some of the best. See at http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/ Be sure to check out the WWW tutorial:)) Elisabeth Roche ace@opus1.com serendipity RULES! From lhyman at mail.sdsu.edu Tue Mar 19 13:27:17 1996 From: lhyman at mail.sdsu.edu (Linda Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Article on color Message-ID: A little late; but perhaps still useful in response to the Web BGCOLOR problems... >>Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:53:40 -0800 >>From: rschmitt@ap.net (Robert Schmitt) >>Subject: Article on color >> >>Take a look at this: >> >>http://gnn.com/gnn/wr/96/03/15/tag/index.html >> >>It's a nice little primer on Web color palettes and hexadecimal color. A >>good resource for your students. Linda Woods Hyman-Education First Initiative Pacific Bell/San Diego State University Dept. of Educational Technology San Diego CA 92182 (619) 594-4414 e-mail: lhyman@mail.sdsu.edu http://edweb.sdsu.edu/edfirst/edfirst.html Please remember to support the School/Library Protection Fund -- donate $1 on your California Tax Return. From khcplsys at holli.com Tue Mar 19 15:03:06 1996 From: khcplsys at holli.com (Bart Gierson) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Web Site with Frames Message-ID: <9603192003.AA15122@mistletoe.holli.com> We are in the process of creating a Web site for our public library, and would like to use Netscape 2.0 latest HTML addition, Framesets. I have a few questions regarding Frames that I haven't been able to find in Netscape's documentation. 1. I know how to target a document to a frame using the . Does the document itself also need a tag(s) indicating what frame it is supposed to target (or is it unnceccesary for one document may be targeted for different frames)? 2. I was planning on creating a mirror site for our non-frame pages, as this seems the only way to keep the two seperate. Are there alternative methods to having two parallel sites going at once (and thereby avoiding the extra work)? What is the best way to seperate the two sites (on a UNIX server)? Do I need to rename the documents, or is simply creating seperate directories sufficient? Others' experiences in these matters would be appreciated, as would URL's with documentation. Please respond directly to me to avoid ListServe clutter. My apologies if this topic has been hashed out already. Thank you. Bart Gierson Systems Administration Manager Kokomo-Howard County Public Library 220 N. Union Street, Kokomo, IN 46901 Volice:(317)457-4342 FAX:(317)457-3683 "The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of the library." From scottp at moondog.usask.ca Tue Mar 19 17:11:52 1996 From: scottp at moondog.usask.ca (Peter Scott) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: D-lib (Digital Libraries) in the UK (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:00:30 +0000 (GMT) From: John Kirriemuir D-lib magazine, the (monthly) magazine of Digital Library Research, is now mirrored in the UK at: http://ukoln.bath.ac.uk/dlib/magazine.html D-Lib originates in the US. It is "a forum for researchers and developers of advanced digital libraries. It is coordinated by the Corporation for National Research Initiatives for the Information Infrastructure Technology and Applications Working Group of the High Performance Computing and Communications program. Its objectives are: * To stimulate the development of a common infrastructure for digital libraries and to coordinate research in those aspects that require consensus. * To provide information exchange about all research and advanced development in digital libraries, particularly federally funded research within the High Performance Computing and Communications program. * To encourage and assist the transfer of these research efforts into the creation of the national digital library system." The monthly magazine consists of articles, news and commentary on all aspects of digital library research, from Metadata and Z39.50, to the UK eLib programme, individual projects from around the world, Internet-based education and many other topics. John Kirriemuir Tel: 01225 826354 Fax: 01225 826838 UKOLN (UK Office for Library and information Networking) -------------------------------------------------------------- UKOLN : http://ukoln.bath.ac.uk/ Ariadne : http://ukoln.bath.ac.uk/ariadne/ Electronic Libraries Prog. : http://ukoln.bath.ac.uk/elib/ "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons" - Popular Mechanics, 1949 From kgs at bluehighways.com Tue Mar 19 21:07:23 1996 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: children's, YA resources solicited... Message-ID: If you know of (or are involved with) librarian-created or maintained WWW resources, services, servers etc. related to children's and young adult's library services, I'd like to hear about it for my next article in American Libraries. I need to hear from folks no later than Saturday, 23 March. Please feel free to forward this notice to LM_NET or PUBYAC or similar lists... Email tips, hints and stories to me directly at . Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------ Karen G. Schneider * kgs@bluehighways.com * http://www.bluehighways.com/ Cybrarian * Columnist, American Libraries, Internet Law Researcher Author, The Internet Access Cookbook (e-mail Neal-Schuman@icm.com) From eroderic at leo.vsla.edu Wed Mar 20 16:11:56 1996 From: eroderic at leo.vsla.edu (Elizabeth Roderick) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Library of Virginia Digital Projects Message-ID: <199603202111.QAA08659@leo.vsla.edu> The Library of Virginia Digital Library Projects The Library of Virginia is pleased to announce the completion of Phase I of its Digital Library Project. The Project, initiated in 1995, preserves significant Virginia archival and library collections and extends access to these collections to anyone with Internet access. The Project is available via the Library of Virginia Home Page (http://leo.vsla.edu/lva/lva.html). Over 600,000 images were scanned, and 40 electronic finding aids were created to access the images as well as other materials in the Library's collection. The major components of Phase I are the Virginia Colonial Records Project, the U.S. Army Signal Corps Photograph Collection, the collection of family Bible records, and the Electronic Card Indexes Project (indexes to 36 separate archival and library collections). The Library used existing and emerging technologies in imaging and document preservation, as well as current MARC standards, throughout the project. The Electronic Card Index Project digitized and preserved more than 850,000 deteriorating catalog cards, comprising 36 unique finding aids to archival and library collections. These images are indexed via a VTLS, Inc. search engine originally developed for the Princeton University card catalog. High-resolution scanning processes preserved these rare finding aids which were previously available only to on-site library patrons. More than 500,000 microfilm images of the Library's Land Office Patent and Grants collection were scanned and will be linked to the corresponding electronic card index. The Virginia Colonial Records Project was established in the 1950s to survey and reconstitute Virginia's colonial documentary history located in more than 100 British and European repositories. The Library's bibliographic index contains references to more than 500,000 personal names and ship names found in 28,000 pages of Survey Reports which describe the archival holdings located in the various repositories. Links from the index to the digitized images of the Survey Reports are via an HTML Gateway utilizing the MARC 856 field. The Library's extensive family Bible Records collection is often the only source of Virginia vital statistics prior to 1853 and from 1896 through 1912. A bibliographic index to this collection already exists. All of the Library's 100,000 Bible records have been scanned, and the images will be linked to the index via the MARC 856 field. The U.S. Army Signal Corps Photograph Collection consists of 3,500 black and white photographs taken during World War II at the Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation. Signal Corps photographers and port historians documented the enormous amount of activity which took place at this major military center. MARC records were created from the extensive captions that accompanied each photograph. The scanned images of the photographs are linked to these records, and the database is keyword searchable by personal name, ship name, place name, and other terms. Phase II of the Project, scheduled for completion by September, 1996, will provide an additional one million digital images of historic archival and library documents, as well as new electronic finding aids. The Library consulted with VTLS, Inc. regarding collection identification, appropriate storage media, preservation methods, and scanning techniques. Library staff also worked with VTLS to develop and implement all imaging, quality control and cataloging processes for the project. The VTLS Virtua-Web Gateway provides the HTML interface for The Library's bibliographic databases, digital images, and Electronic Card Catalogs. The Library of Virginia also sponsors the Virginia Library and Information Network (VLIN), providing Internet access and services for more than 3,000 Virginia librarians located in more than 550 libraries. For more information about the Digital Library Project, contact Elizabeth Roderick, Project Coordinator, The Library of Virginia, email: eroderic@leo.vsla.edu phone: (804) 786-2975.  -- Elizabeth Roderick email (eroderic@leo.vsla.edu) Assistant Director, Library Development voice (804) 786-2975 and Networking Division fax (804) 225-4608 The Library of Virginia home (804) 231-1774 11th at Capitol Square Richmond, VA 23219 ***************************************************** http://leo.vsla.edu/lva/lva.html The LVA Digital Library Initiative ***************************************************** From suelee at dns.mcn.net Wed Mar 20 21:22:40 1996 From: suelee at dns.mcn.net (Susan Lee) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: Unaffiliated users and library internet access Message-ID: We hope to put in a CD-ROM LAN next fall and connect the LAN to the internet. This will be a small LAN about 4 terminals (at first) The campus computer committee needs to come up with guidelines about who has access to the internet from the LAN. What the computer committee needs to know is how other academic libraries (particularly private) restrict or don't restrict internet access via CD-ROM LAN or OPAC. Do you grant internet access to anyone who comes into the library? What types of access are available? Do you restrict access to affliated users? If you grant universal access, how do you keep kids from getting into things that could get you arrested. Since we are a university, I would strongly reject any attempt to impose net nanny or any other parental tools onto the library system. But if we don't restrict user access, are we liable if someone's child finds the Playboy website? I'm sure some academic libraries have wrestled with this issue and I would really like to know how you handle it. Thanks. P.S. There is internet access via the local public library so we aren't the only game in town. Sue %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Susan Lee % % Information Services Librarian % % University of Great Falls % % Great Falls, MT 59405 % % % % slee@ugf.edu % % suelee@mcn.net % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From jchu at ggu.edu Thu Mar 21 01:31:41 1996 From: jchu at ggu.edu (Jenny Chu) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:04 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <9603210631.AA16308@INTERNET.ggu.edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text Size: 31 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/19960320/82d7e95d/attachment.bat From crebaza at ocean.st.usm.edu Fri Mar 22 14:29:25 1996 From: crebaza at ocean.st.usm.edu (Claudia Rebaza) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: Faculty publications on the net Message-ID: Some months ago someone posted a URL where they had collected interesting uses of library web pages. One of these pages contained book covers and synopsis of faculty publications. Would someone let me know what this URL was or which library hosts that faculty publications page? I seem to have deleted (or misfiled) that message. Thank you! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Claudia Rebaza Cook Library Reference Department University of Southern Mississippi, Hattiesburg crebaza@ocean.st.usm.edu & http://ocean.st.usm.edu/~crebaza/index.html From Alastair.Smith at vuw.ac.nz Fri Mar 22 16:52:39 1996 From: Alastair.Smith at vuw.ac.nz (Alastair Smith, DLIS, Victoria University, NZ) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: Public library internet survey results available Message-ID: <199603222152.VAA28458@kauri.vuw.ac.nz> A summary of a Dec 1995/Jan 1996 survey of the provision of internet services in NZ public libraries is available on the South Seas BUBL site, at http://www.vuw.ac.nz/dlis/ssbubl/fulltext/intsurv/ The survey was completed by David Martin as an MLIS research project at the DLIS, Victoria University of Wellington, and will be published as a Departmental Occasional Paper. Abstract The report describes research carried out to explore the nature and extent of use of the Internet by large urban public libraries in New Zealand, along with the views of librarians on provision of Internet services. The study involved a survey methodology using a questionnaire as the data collection technique. The study found that two thirds of the libraries surveyed have some type of Internet connection, however about half of these connections are simple E-mail only or text based VT100 connections. Connections are generally used more for internal library needs than for patron needs. Alastair Smith |Alastair.Smith@vuw.ac.nz Department of Library and Information Studies|Voice: +64 4 495 5233 x 8687 Victoria University of Wellington |Fax: +64 4 496 5446 PO Box 600, Wellington, New Zealand/Aotearoa |http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~agsmith/ From notdpa at unix1.sncc.lsu.edu Mon Mar 25 09:18:41 1996 From: notdpa at unix1.sncc.lsu.edu (David P Atkins) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: ALA's Instruction Section Web Site Announced Message-ID: ***************************************************************************** ACRL Instruction Section Web Site The ACRL Instruction Section's web site was unveiled at the ALA Midwinter Meeting in San Antonio as one of many efforts to publicize the Section's name change. The site, currently hosted by Colgate University Libraries at http://www2.colgate.edu/instruction/ is also linked from the ACRL page within the ALA web site. The project was originally conceived in 1994 as a basic gopher site offering access to policy statements, conference and committee information, and section publications. The shift to a web-based site allows the Section to link to other useful sites, create interactive forms, and publish multimedia content of interest to Section members, prospective members, and practitioners. The site now offers a committee volunteer form, detailed conference and committee information, and a growing list of Section publications, including the current draft of "Guidelines for Instruction Programs in Academic Libraries." By the ALA Annual Conference, the site will include a history of the Section and feature a unique "oral history" of the Miriam Dudley Instruction Librarian Award winners. The site was developed under the direction of the IS Communication Committee with design and technical assistance from Jeffrey O'Connell, Colgate Library Technical Specialist. Work on the site began in December 1995 and took approximately four weeks to implement. The Communication Committee will continue to coordinate this dynamic site under the direction of the Executive Committee, and following the guidelines for web publication, currently under development. From webmaster at unilib.unilib.neva.ru Mon Mar 25 12:16:11 1996 From: webmaster at unilib.unilib.neva.ru (webmaster@unilib.unilib.neva.ru) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: Z39.50 server for VAX/VMS Message-ID: <199603260119.AA00760@stpulx.unilib.neva.ru> Hello from Open Library Systems Center ! Dear colleagues, I'm interesting in information about Z39.50 server for VAX/VMS. I would be grateful if anybody could help me in this question. Sincerely Yours, Rustam Usmanov (Russia, St.Petersburg) From ziegman at fvrl.lib.wa.us Mon Mar 25 13:13:04 1996 From: ziegman at fvrl.lib.wa.us (Bruce Ziegman) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: Filtering Message-ID: Public libraries making the web available to the public: are you filtering? If so, what software are you using? I'm especially interested in medium to large libraries (serving over 250,000). Thanks in advance (apologies if this has been discussed recently, I just subscribed). Bruce Ziegman ziegman@fvrl.lib.wa.us 360-699-8810 (voice) 360-693-2681 (fax) From riddle at is.rice.edu Mon Mar 25 16:23:53 1996 From: riddle at is.rice.edu (Prentiss Riddle) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: listserv archives to web? In-Reply-To: <199603181612.LAA25064@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu> from "Jian Liu" at Mar 18, 96 08:50:51 am Message-ID: <199603252123.PAA12344@brazos.is.rice.edu> > From web4lib@library.berkeley.edu Mon Mar 18 10:49:50 1996 > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:50:51 -0800 > From: Jian Liu > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: listserv archives to web? > > Could somebody recommend a FREE program that can convert listserv > archives to the web, so that the results can be browsed and > searched? I'll summarize if there is enough interest. Chris Adams replied with a suggestion of the program "hypermail", and also mentioned a program called "MHonArc". I recently had occasion to make the same decision and came up with the following list of differences between the two programs: MHonArc Hypermail ------- --------- Perl C or Common Lisp Unix or DOS Unix MH or Unix mailbox format Unix mailbox format MIME support No MIME support Neither one has built-in support for a search index (although both can be used with other search indexes). Both permit incremental updates. I ended up choosing MHonArc because of its MIME support. In many environments one may be as good as the other. -- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu -- RiceInfo Administrator, Rice University / http://is.rice.edu/~riddle From cmerten at wahoo.sjsu.edu Mon Mar 25 16:57:07 1996 From: cmerten at wahoo.sjsu.edu (Christine Merten) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: Digital Libraries (US-Silicon Valley/SF Bay) Message-ID: Digital Libraries: Setting Your Sites Friday, May 10, 1996 8:00am - 12:30pm Raychem Corporation, Menlo Park, CA A Professional Development Workshop sponsored by the San Andreas Chapter of the Special Libraries Association (SLA). Have you been reading a lot about Digital Libraries in both the news and library literature? What's the difference between digital, virtual, and electronic libraries? Do you want your library to be on the cutting edge of technology? You can learn about the impacts and issues involved in digital libraries as well as the tools and technologies being applied to develop these components of the digitized world. The speakers will address technical considerations, planning, budgeting and implementation issues, and copyright. Presentations by: * Cynthia Hill - Manager of the Library & Information Systems at Sun Microsystems * David Levy - Researcher, Systems and Practices Laboratories at Xerox PARC * Robert Simons - General Counsel at Knight-Ridder Information, Inc. $30.00 for SLA members; $35.00 for non-members; $20.00 for students and those who are retired or between jobs. Registration must be done by mail. For details including registration form, a map, and directions, see the SLA/San Andreas Chapter Web site at: http://www.san-andreas-sla.org/sa/programs/pro-dev/workshop.htm For more info on this workshop contact: cmerten@wahoo.sjsu.edu From s.j.barry at its.gu.edu.au Mon Mar 25 22:43:40 1996 From: s.j.barry at its.gu.edu.au (Sarah J Barry) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:06 2005 Subject: problems with swish Message-ID: We have been running swish as a search engine for our site for some time. However, on three disastrous occasions the swish processes got out of control. We ended up with about 20 SWISH processes running "CPU bound" at the same time. The result was disastrous for the machine and the other prcesses running on it. Our system administrator has since banned the use of swish until we can determine what caused the problem or provide a solution. Has anybody else had this problem? If so can you supply any solution. We have written to the swish site but without reply. TIA Sarah Barry ____________________________________________________________________________ Sarah Barry o S.J.Barry@its.gu.edu.au Manager, CWIS & MultiMedia o webmaster@gu.edu.au Division of Information Services o phone: +61 (07) 3 875 6439 Griffith University, Nathan o fax G3: +61 (07) 3 875 7877 Queensland 4111 AUSTRALIA o WWW: http://www.gu.edu.au/ ____________________________________________________________________________ From emiller at SMTPGWY.ISINET.COM Wed Mar 27 08:00:07 1996 From: emiller at SMTPGWY.ISINET.COM (emiller@SMTPGWY.ISINET.COM) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: U.S. source for Hot Dog? Message-ID: <96Mar27.080919est.20493@pandora.isinet.com> Hello, Hot Dog fans, Let me relate some of my experiences... we ordered two copies of Hot Dog Pro v.1 - after a week, we upgraded to v. 2 but still had to pay upgrade costs, instead of being able to convert the order. We then placed a mass order (10 copies) in an effort to get a better price (after many e-mail messages and faxes we did find out that we would get a 20% discount. It took us forever to get everything together and the purchasing department here is still not too happy with the process. Last week, I received a Tiger Software Catalog in the mail and they are offering Hot Dog bundled with a couple of other smaller packages. I am looking into this now, as we need more copies and since the Sausage software company is obviously overwhelmed by the response to their package... I am considering placing my next order with Tiger, once I make sure that it is what I want (the professional version). Once I know something, I will post to the board. Elisa Miller "Whatever you can do or Institute for Scientific Information dream you can, begin it. 3501 Market Street Boldness has genius, power Philadelphia, Pa 19104 and magic in it." (215)386-0100 x 1395 Goethe emiller@isinet.com URL - http://www.isinet.com From JOSEPHA at vms.csd.mu.edu Wed Mar 27 08:48:47 1996 From: JOSEPHA at vms.csd.mu.edu (AGJOSEPH) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: Visual Basic Message-ID: <01I2TQGCWLL4927FZM@vms.csd.mu.edu> Hi Folks, I would like to know if Visual Basic will help you in your Web page development? I know how to do the html tagging, but not the very fancy things. I have created some pages with images in them. Somebody suggested that visual basic will be a good course to consider taking. Our univeristy does not offer that course. I have to go to another university and pay for it by myself. What do you all think? Is it worth spending that much money for developing and maintaining our pages? TIA Angelina Joseph Angelina G. Joseph Cataloging Librarian Marquette University Law Library 1103 W. Wisconsin Avenue P.O. Box 3137 Milwaukee, WI 53201-3137 Phone: 414-288-5553 Email: josepha@vms.csd.mu.edu Fax: 414-288-5914 http://studsys.mscs.mu.edu/~joseph From dgrisner at netcom.com Wed Mar 27 10:54:47 1996 From: dgrisner at netcom.com (David G. Risner) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: Visual Basic In-Reply-To: <01I2TQGCWLL4927FZM@vms.csd.mu.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, AGJOSEPH wrote: > I would like to know if Visual Basic will help you in your Web > page development? I know how to do the html tagging, but not > the very fancy things. I have created some pages with images > in them. Somebody suggested that visual basic will be a good > course to consider taking. Our univeristy does not offer > that course. I have to go to another university and pay for it > by myself. What do you all think? Is it worth spending that > much money for developing and maintaining our pages? What operating system & web server are you using? For developing stuff for web pages, Perl or C (or C++) would probably be more useful than Visual Basic right now. In the future, Visual Basic might be a good thing to know; although, as someone who has used Visual Basic, I would say that Perl & C will be the choice for a while because how slow VB is. For simple additions to your web pages, you might try learning Javascript. It looks fairly simple. It will only work with Netscape browsers though. There is also Java itself, which only works with Netscape right now. You will need Windows 95, NT or a Unix machine to write Java programs. Do note that there are two different functions for "programs" on the web: There are CGI scripts which take input, usually from a form, and then output an HTML page. These could be in Perl, C, Java, VB, C++, shell scripts, and just about any other language. These run on the server. Then there are applets and inline scripts which are actually part of an HTML document and run on the client's machine. These do things like spinning graphics, text scrolling at the bottom, etc. This is what Javascript & Java are for. (Microsoft is now in alpha testing for Visual Basic Script which will work with Internet Explorer). Personally, I would learn Perl first. You can do CGI with it and you'll learn about programming as a whole. There is also a lot of help on the Net for doing CGI with Perl. If you stick with CGI, you might want to learn C++ eventually as it is faster to run if your server is getting a lot of hits. Java is similar in structure to C++ and seems to be becoming the standard for applets. So jumping to Java when you want to write applets shouldn't be difficult (I haven't done this yet, so I don't really know if that's true or not). Good luck. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- David G. Risner dgrisner@netcom.com Southwestern University School of Law Library Los Angeles, CA -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From donovan.1 at osu.edu Wed Mar 27 19:48:16 1996 From: donovan.1 at osu.edu (Maureen Donovan) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: Workshop on GII for Asian Studies Message-ID: <9603271600.AA08246@library.berkeley.edu> *****************Apologies for cross-posting*************** Workshop on the Global Information Infrastructure for Asian Studies Thursday, April 11, 1996 11:00 - 5:00 Hilton Hawaiian Village, Honolulu, Hawaii Tapa Tower, Tapa 3 This workshop is being held in conjunction with the Association for Asian Studies annual meeting; no special registration is required *********** Purpose: This workshop brings together scholars and librarians engaged in improving access to research resources for Asian Studies. Particular emphasis is given to cooperative projects, especially those involving international collaboration. An underlying focus of the workshop is to explore how the Association for Asian Studies might become more involved in the future, as a scholarly organization, in encouraging such efforts, facilitating training in such work, or otherwise undertaking initiatives regarding electronic resources. ******** First Session :11-12:30 am, Tapa 3 "Electronic Resources and Information Services, Part 1" Thomas H. Hahn (University of Heidelberg), Chair and Commentator Speakers: Lewis Lancaster (University of California, Berkeley), Electronic Buddhist Text Initiative David Magier (Columbia University), South Asia Gopher and World Wide Web Ichiko Morita (Library of Congress), Japan Documentation Center Susan Whitfield (British Library), International Dunhuang Project **** Second Session : 1:30-3 pm, Tapa 3 "Association of Research Libraries' Foreign Acquisitions Study and Strategic Plan for Improving Access to Global Information Resources: Implications for Asian Studies" Dorothy Gregor (OCLC; National Coordinating Committee on Japanese Library Resources), Chair and Commentator Speakers: Maureen Donovan (Ohio State University Libraries) and Jutta Reed-Scott (Association of Research Libraries) (joint paper), Overview and East Asia-related issues Judith Henchy (University of Washington), Southeast Asia-related issues James Nye (University of Chicago) , South Asia-related issues **** 3:15-3:30 Announcements of Workshop-Related Booths in the AAS Exhibits Hall -- Shiny Huang and Fang-hsueh Wang : National Central Library (Booth #613-614) -- D'Ann Campbell and Maureen Donovan: Asia Online, H-Net and NCC (Booth #703-704-705) **** Third Session : 3:30-5 pm, Tapa 3 "Electronic Resources and Information Services, Part 2" Speakers: Izumi Koide (International House of Japan) "Bridging Shores: The Changing Role of the Area Studies Librarian" Susan Prentice (Australian National University Library) "Australian National University Library's Cooperation with the National Library of China to Make Chinese Journal Tables of Contents Available on the World Wide Web" Han-gon Song (National Assembly Library), "The Current Status of the Digital Library Program of the National Assembly Library (Korea)" From lcaldwel at sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us Wed Mar 27 13:33:06 1996 From: lcaldwel at sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us (lcaldwel@sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: Filtering Message-ID: Not filtering (but a little nervous). Houston Public Library http://sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us Lou Caldwell lcaldwel@hpl.lib.tx.us ---------------Original Message--------------- Public libraries making the web available to the public: are you filtering? If so, what software are you using? I'm especially interested in medium to large libraries (serving over 250,000). Thanks in advance (apologies if this has been discussed recently, I just subscribed). Bruce Ziegman ziegman@fvrl.lib.wa.us 360-699-8810 (voice) 360-693-2681 (fax) ----------End of Original Message---------- ------------------------------------- Lou Caldwell Assistant Director - Support Services Houston Public Library http://sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us E-mail: lcaldwel@hpl.lib.tx.us Date: 03/27/96 Time: 10:33:06 This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- From perez at opac.osl.state.or.us Wed Mar 27 14:46:39 1996 From: perez at opac.osl.state.or.us (Ernest Perez) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: Buttons & bows, er...image maps Message-ID: <31599B1F.28@opac.osl.state.or.us> A basic question...one of those things I just never learned-- For Windows 3.1, what is the simplest, most direct way to produce nice buttons, 3D shading, etc., or the cutesy image map graphics strips with all the text specific to your own needs or organization? Yeah, I know about all the button & horizontal rule & backgrounds & etc. libraries out there on the Web. But what's a good package to use for buttons or imagemap strips/blocks which you'd like to customize to your particular needs? Appreciate advice on graphics apps good for this. Shareware or freeware, great, as usual. Cheers, -ernest Ernest Perez Oregon State Library 503-378-4243, ext 257 From martyk at rci.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 27 15:19:38 1996 From: martyk at rci.rutgers.edu (Martin Kesselman) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: AI/Expert Systems and the Web -- Discussion Leaders Needed!! Message-ID: <199603272019.PAA28721@erebus.rutgers.edu> The LITA Artificial Intelligence and Expert Systems Interest Group is planning a discussion on artificial intelligence / expert systems and the Web. We're seeking 2 presenter/discussion leaders on any aspects related to this theme. There is the possibility of having computer equipment available but I would need to know by April 22 at the very latest. The discussion will take place at the American Library Association annual meeting in NYC on Sunday, July 7 at 2PM. If interested, send a brief proposal ASAP, and by April 22 at the latest, to: Martin Kesselman, Chair LITA Artificial Intelligence and Expert Systems Interest Group email: martyk@rci.rutgers.edu Fax: 908/445-3208 ******************************************************* PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF NEW EMAIL ACCOUNT!!! Martin Kesselman, Special Project Librarian Rutgers University Library of Science and Medicine /^^^\ P.O. Box 1029, Bevier Road ( @ @ ) Piscataway, New Jersey 08855 ---m---U---m--- Tel: 908/445-3850 Fax: 908/445-3208 "All I can do is hang in there and take one day at a time!" Email: martyk@rci.rutgers.edu ******************************************************* From martyk at rci.rutgers.edu Wed Mar 27 15:19:41 1996 From: martyk at rci.rutgers.edu (Martin Kesselman) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:07 2005 Subject: Library Instruction & the Net -- IFLA Call for Papers/Presentations Message-ID: <199603272019.PAA28732@erebus.rutgers.edu> The IFLA User Education Round Table is planning two events at this summer's conference in Beijing, China from August 25 to 31. Our open session of papers is entitled Information Literacy: Global Perspectives. We already have 3 papers selected for this session but would like to add a fourth paper on the topic of Network Literacy to the mix. Our workshop session is entitled, User Education for Remote Library Users. We are very interested in 2-3 additional presentations on this topic such as on ways libraries provide instructional outreach to remote users and library instructional programs on the Net itself. If interested in presenting a paper for either the open session or the workshop, please send a detailed abstract to: Martin Kesselman, Secretary, IFLA User Education Round Table email: martyk@rci.rutgers.edu fax: +908-445-3208. Abstracts recieved by May 1st will be considered first. Thanks!!! ******************************************************* PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF NEW EMAIL ACCOUNT!!! Martin Kesselman, Special Project Librarian Rutgers University Library of Science and Medicine /^^^\ P.O. Box 1029, Bevier Road ( @ @ ) Piscataway, New Jersey 08855 ---m---U---m--- Tel: 908/445-3850 Fax: 908/445-3208 "All I can do is hang in there and take one day at a time!" Email: martyk@rci.rutgers.edu ******************************************************* From jadranka at nippur.irb.hr Sun Mar 31 15:51:50 1996 From: jadranka at nippur.irb.hr (Jadranka Stojanovski) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:10 2005 Subject: expert systems Message-ID: <199603312051.WAA15884@nippur.irb.hr> I am looking for the good examples of the expert system applications in libraries for a different library functions as: - cataloging - indexing - online catalogs - database searching - reference services - other I appreciate any help (URLs, ...). Thanks in advance! Kind regards, Jadranka Stojanovski Chief librarian Rudjer Boskovic Institute, Zagreb Croatia http://nippur.irb.hr/ From kuhn at mpg-gv.mpg.de Mon Mar 4 10:46:57 1996 From: kuhn at mpg-gv.mpg.de (Heinrich C. Kuhn) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:43 2005 Subject: World Wide Web Digital Library System Message-ID: <9603040953.AA24767@library.berkeley.edu> I'd like to comment on *part* of what C. W. Tazewell wrote on Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:06:37 -0800: > The typical Internet user does not have the time, > patience, or skill to "surf the Web." He needs > things organized in a convenient place to save him > time and frustration. Most would not need to go > any further than his local digital library. I'm not sure whether we know what "The typical Internet user" is like, but it certainly is true, that all internet users need means to find out where the information they are looking for is. > Theoretically (but only in theory) all Web Sites could be > linked at one master worldwide WWW site. Obviously, this would > overburden long-distance circuits. I agree: The future may be not in *just one* "Global Server for pointers to everything": The *WWW virtual library* has regional branches already now, Search Engines like *Alta Vista* and *Lycos* are not (at least not yet) adapted to permit easy serches for material in non-latin characters, and for libraries based on paper we have *several* consortia's catalogues (like the OCLC World Cat, like the German VK94 etc.). This works, and it remains flexible enough to serve regional preferences for certain types and standards of cataloguing where any attempt for something like a "Global Catalogue for all Libraries' Holdings in the Whole World using a Unified Cataloguing Format for Anything" probably would be something one would have to wait for for a *very* long time. A like approach to "cataloguing" ressources on the net might be a good solution as well. > > The World Central WWW Digital Library Site would be I don't quite know, what you think this "World Central WWW Digital Library Site" of the future should be like. The Net has hitherto worked well without too much centralism. A way of doing "combined" searches in several "catalogues" of ressources might be sufficient. > mirrored to Regional Digital Libraries. A large country would > have a number of Regional Digital Library sites, and some > countries would only have one, or be served by a nearby one. > To supplement this there would be metropolitan/community > digital libraries in each local area. They would have the most > important function of providing local data and information to the > rest of the world. They would also bring in the rest of the > world through links to the nearest Regional Digital Library. I'm not sure, whether *geography* is that important. For some types of information it seems reasonable to "catalogue" them regionally (e.g. for indices on hotels and restaurants, for some types of yellow pages, etc.). For other types of infor- mation however distributions according to subject areas might be more appropriate - like today for texts published on paper: NLM does at good job at indexing, "cataloguing" medical texts and the CAS at indexing, "cataloguing" chemistry texts - from (at least potentially) all over the world. The same holds true for what special libraries do for monographs. Today's situation with regional and local and world wide specialised indexing and cataloguing of lots of "conventional" and more and more "non-conventional" material is not a simple situation, and it probably will become an even more compex situation in the future. Global, regional, local endeavours: all of them probably will be needed to cope. Regards Heinrich C. Kuhn **************************************************** * Dr. Heinrich C. Kuhn (coordinator libraries) * Max-Planck-Gesellschaft / Generalverwaltung IIb3 * Postfach 10 10 62 * D-80084 Muenchen * * voice: +49-89-2108 1563 * fax: +49-89-2108 1565 * eMail: hck@ipp-garching.mpg.de or * kuhn@mpg-gv.mpg.de ****************************************************** From lwa at ix.netcom.com Mon Mar 4 10:54:26 1996 From: lwa at ix.netcom.com (Larry Whitaker) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:43 2005 Subject: discussion contribution Message-ID: <199603041554.HAA18977@ix11.ix.netcom.com> Hi, Does everyone realize that "outsourcing" text conversion projects can save your library a lot of money? It is true. You can just box it up and send it out-- and get electronic files on diskette back a few days later-- structured exactly like you need-- with embedded HTML codings, levels, etc. And, you can avoid the onus of detailed management of a conversion project-- no scanners, no finicky OCR software, no operators going blind trying to find and fix OCR errors. When the text originals are too valuable to release, we can work from scanned images of each page-- we just transmit them to our off-shore operators. Our operators are usually graduate engineers. We can handle tables, math or chemistry formulas with ease. So, our service is cheaper and easier-- why not get a quote before deciding how to process the next project? -- ___________________________________________________________ Larry Whitaker, President Larry Whitaker Associates, INC 215 La Barranca DR dba Del Mar Data Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice: (619) 259 7911 FAX (619) 259 1053 CompuServe 71754,2164 see our web page at: http://www.wp.com/delmardata __________________________________________________________ From marc at ckm.ucsf.edu Mon Mar 4 11:35:47 1996 From: marc at ckm.ucsf.edu (Marc Salomon) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:43 2005 Subject: discussion contribution Message-ID: <199603041635.AA04112@library.ucsf.edu > Larry Whitaker, President Larry Whitaker Associates, INC writes: |So, our service is cheaper and easier-- why not get a quote before |deciding how to process the next project? So, this list is for discussion of technical issues-- why not clue into this before spamming the list with your advertisements. -marc From tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu Mon Mar 4 11:45:49 1996 From: tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:43 2005 Subject: discussion contribution Message-ID: <01BB09C0.2344C1A0@grey.ohiolink.edu> >Subject: discussion contribution >Does everyone realize that "outsourcing" text conversion projects can >save your library a lot of money? Sorry, I must have dozed off there for a moment. What discussion does this contribute to? It reads like a straightforward advertisement to me. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Mon Mar 4 12:44:46 1996 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:43 2005 Subject: discussion contribution In-Reply-To: <199603041635.AA04112@library.ucsf.edu > Message-ID: Just to set the record straight, he cleared his intent to post a message to the list relating to his services with me BEFORE he posted it. My policy is to allow anything that may apply to library-based Web services and systems, which this does. I do not oppose postings just because they are commercial in nature. Someone may benefit from knowing that such services exist, and I think we can all judge for ourselves whether that includes us or not. Thanks, Roy Tennant Web4Lib Owner On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Marc Salomon wrote: > Larry Whitaker, President Larry Whitaker Associates, INC writes: > > |So, our service is cheaper and easier-- why not get a quote before > |deciding how to process the next project? > > So, this list is for discussion of technical issues-- why not clue into this > before spamming the list with your advertisements. > > -marc > From iai at neosoft.com Mon Mar 4 17:23:31 1996 From: iai at neosoft.com (Kevin C. Marsh) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:43 2005 Subject: World Wide Web Digital Library System Message-ID: <199603042223.QAA22187@sam.neosoft.com> Dr. Heinrich C. Kuhn wrote: >...I don't quite know, what you think this "World Central WWW >Digital Library Site" of the future should be like. The Net >has hitherto worked well without too much centralism. A way >of doing "combined" searches in several "catalogues" of >ressources might be sufficient. This is easily done if those catalogues comply with some common interface standard such as Z39.50. >...For some >types of information it seems reasonable to "catalogue" them >regionally (e.g. for indices on hotels and restaurants, for >some types of yellow pages, etc.). For other types of infor- >mation however distributions according to subject areas might >be more appropriate - like today for texts published on paper: >NLM does at good job at indexing, "cataloguing" medical texts >and the CAS at indexing, "cataloguing" chemistry texts - from >(at least potentially) all over the world. The same holds true >for what special libraries do for monographs. Exactly! It seems to me that what we need at this point is not a new infrastructure of global, regional, and local directories, but rather a proliferation of standards-compliant information collections that are capable of being interconnected in a variety of ways based on the needs of user groups or individual users. Intead of creating a directory of Chemistry sites on the Web, for example, you could simply configure a Web page to launch a query against the contents of those sites. An individual researcher could copy and modify that Web page to search only the sites they prefer, or to add more sites that match their research interests. > Today's situation with regional and local and world wide >specialised indexing and cataloguing of lots of "conventional" >and more and more "non-conventional" material is not a simple >situation, and it probably will become an even more compex >situation in the future. Global, regional, local endeavours: >all of them probably will be needed to cope. I agree, but information professionals can reduce that complexity by creating, studying, advocating, and implementing appropriate standards. Distributed, standards-compliant collections would be more responsive to "local" requirements and be more sustainable than a central registry system IMHO. They are also easier to implement, and can be created on a collection-by-collection basis. (I hope to publicly release two collections this week!) Kevin C. Marsh, Executive Director Information Access Institute IAI@neosoft.com http://www.neosoft.com/~iai From b.kelly at newcastle.ac.uk Thu Mar 7 03:42:41 1996 From: b.kelly at newcastle.ac.uk (Brian Kelly) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:44 2005 Subject: Clickable images in HTML Message-ID: <199603070847.IAA04990@burnmoor.ncl.ac.uk> > Peter: > > The steps you have taken so far are correct for producing an > interactive image. Unfortunately, you need more than just the > imagemap.conf (configuration) file to "fool" Netscape. The latest versions of Netscape (and other browsers) support client side image maps. The image map data can be supplied as part of the HTML document: ... With regard to the response by Ilene Frank, Reference Dept. Tampa Campus Library, LIB 122, University of South Florida, Tampa FL 33620 (ifrank@lib.usf.edu).... ----------- I agree that the present state of integration of all the various information facilities is so poor that paper is required at this and that point. But philosophically where we are heading is to make it possible never to let information touch paper. To do so is to suffer a productivity loss at a minimum to be measured by the effort required to type the information back in (or scan it, with all the imperfections that implies). Thus, what I am suggesting is that whenever you see yourself helping people to get their information to paper, the alarm bells should go off in your head and you should immediately think "what is wrong here? why are we doing this?" One may of course have to quickly retreat and accept the reality that we aren't quite there yet in our philosophical and technological journey but just to think in this mode is instructive. --David Ritchie --R124C41@AOL.COM --http://members.aol.com/RitchieDJ P.S. Yes, there are times when paper is better...but we need to choose to put information on paper for those reasons rather than just letting it be the default way of thinking. From tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu Thu Mar 7 09:37:15 1996 From: tdowling at ohiolink.ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:44 2005 Subject: 100% - 80% = ? Message-ID: <01BB0C09.AD509900@grey.ohiolink.edu> My organization is now testing or using production (!) versions of web interfaces from 5 different systems or database vendors, and not one of them reliably puts out HTML which could pass even a comparably forgiving validator like WebLint. And I'm not talking about little things like leaving out , or even more major stuff like having a and a . I consistently see botched tagging which I know leads to unpredicatable or completely broken results with some browsers. Examples below. The annoying thing about this is that I also know from talking with several of these vendors that they are only "checking" their work by looking at it with Netscape, and probably only Netscape 2.0. We're like a lot of sites in that we see about 80% Netscape hits on our server (although about half of that is from versions before 2.0). But in what other context would I be expected to go to one out of every five users and say "Sorry, the system we bought won't work for you. YOU have to change the tools you're working with"? I know we're not the only organization testing or paying for these web products. Is anyone else out there telling vendors that their HTML has to validate? Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu HTML HALL OF SHAME Vendor's main database selection menu is presented as a which unfortunately has no ,
, or elements. Cheerfully rendered as a blank screen on two of my browsers and a third can't figure out the anchors within the table. Aside from Netscape, only Lynx handles this, because it ignores the table stuff entirely. Vendor includes a background GIF, the leftmost 80 pixels of which are black. Attempts to move text off the black area by prefacing the entire document with
. HTML 101: just because a
list is indented on your screen, don't assume it's indented the same amount, or at all, on mine. To duplicate the effect, put your thumb over the left inch of this screen and try to read the rest of this message. Vendor includes an inline image I provided, using it (as I do) in a

. Vendor never closes the paragraph or starts a new one, so an entire page is right-aligned. outside of the . Brand- new, so I don't know what all our browser will make of it, but since the URL listed as the content for this is written wrong, even browsers that try to follow it will get an error message. Vendor's CGI script apparently does not preface output with a MIME declaration ("Content-type: text/html"). Reliably rendered as plaintext on at least one browser I commonly use. Unclosed with no corresponding . Your guess is as good as mine about what a browser will make of this. Empty tags. A with no corresponding